Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Austria and Australia. I’m glad I don’t live in either one and I’ll show you why

00:00:00.180 Hello, my rebels. Today I show you what's going on in Austria, and I'll show you what's going on in Australia,

00:00:08.220 and how there's echoes, especially in Austria, of what that country did 80 years ago.

00:00:13.420 It's almost like it's a muscle memory for authoritarianism.

00:00:17.040 I wonder how far it'll go.

00:00:19.600 I wonder if the fact that we see it in color with all sorts of nuance

00:00:22.900 means we hear it differently than if we saw it in grainy black and white footage.

00:00:27.800 I wonder if our guard is down because it doesn't look old-timing,

00:00:31.880 and we never could have another Nazi state, could we? 0.53

00:00:35.240 I mean, that's just unthinkable, right?

00:00:37.980 I'll give you my thoughts on it.

00:00:40.680 We'll also talk to our friend Andrew Lawton about the same thing.

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00:01:12.660 Okay, here's today's podcast.

00:01:13.820 You're listening to Rebel News Podcast.

00:01:27.800 Tonight, Australia and Austria.

00:01:32.460 I'm glad I don't live in either one, and I'll show you why.

00:01:34.980 It's November 22nd, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:37.780 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:43.740 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:47.800 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:53.680 Austria and Australia.

00:02:01.000 There's a joke about that.

00:02:02.700 Here's the opening scene from one of my favorite movies of all time called Dumb and Dumber.

00:02:06.800 Excuse me.

00:02:09.840 Could you tell me how to get to the medical school?

00:02:12.140 I'm supposed to be doing a lecture in about 20 minutes, and my driver's a bit lost.

00:02:16.800 You go straight ahead, and you make a left over the bridge.

00:02:21.280 That's a lovely accent you have.

00:02:25.880 New Jersey?

00:02:27.820 Austria.

00:02:29.060 Austria?

00:02:30.600 Well then, good day, mate.

00:02:35.020 Let's put another shrimp on the barbie. 1.00

00:02:38.960 Let's not.

00:02:44.220 Austria is the country where Adolf Hitler was born. 0.64

00:02:48.040 Austria knows what Nazis are like.

00:02:49.800 I mean, it learned the hard way, didn't it?

00:02:52.380 What happens when you demonize your fellow citizens when you declare an unclean underclass?

00:02:59.340 Untermenschen in German.

00:03:01.280 Of all the countries in the world to bring in police searches for your papers,

00:03:05.480 I think Austria feels just a little too cliché, doesn't it?

00:03:09.800 Or maybe it's precisely because they've done it before that it comes a bit too naturally,

00:03:14.740 like muscle memory, like riding a bike.

00:03:17.520 You never really forget how to do it.

00:03:19.800 Have you ever heard of this book, Explaining Hitler, the Search for the Origins of His Evil?

00:03:27.840 That's a picture of baby Hitler on the cover, which is something you could think about for hours.

00:03:33.200 Was that little baby evil?

00:03:35.180 Of course not.

00:03:36.200 It was a baby.

00:03:37.600 When did Hitler become Hitler? 0.88

00:03:39.660 Was it when he was a boy, a teen, a man?

00:03:44.840 Or later, was it inevitable? 0.98

00:03:47.620 You've perhaps heard of the thought experiment, if he could go back in time and kill baby Hitler before he set the world on fire, would you do it? 0.94

00:03:55.200 It's a bit harder to do when you see a cute little baby like that.

00:04:00.420 I won't answer that question now, but let me quote to you something that Ron Rosenbaum, the brilliant author behind that book, said.

00:04:07.720 He wrote an update to the book more recently, before Rosenbaum went crazy about Donald Trump.

00:04:13.180 He thought about modern Nazism, including Iran, and its threat to the Jews.

00:04:16.920 Here's what he said.

00:04:18.180 Let me read to you from the L.A. Review of Books a few years back.

00:04:22.800 Before Auschwitz, Kurtz writes, Auschwitz was unimaginable.

00:04:27.880 That is no longer so today, because Auschwitz, in fact, occurred.

00:04:31.480 It has now been established in our imaginations as a firm possibility.

00:04:35.700 What we were able to imagine, especially because it once was, can be again.

00:04:41.220 That chilling last sentence tempts me into a discussion of the contentious Second Holocaust controversy,

00:04:46.920 one I stirred up when I wrote an essay essentially saying what Kurtz was saying.

00:04:51.740 No matter how many times and how many Jews and non-Jews aver never again, it can happen again. 0.93

00:04:58.380 The only thing that has changed is that now we know that it can happen at all.

00:05:02.820 So that's Ron Rosenbaum.

00:05:03.900 Of course he's right.

00:05:05.300 The unthinkable was thought.

00:05:07.360 It's no longer impossible or unimaginable.

00:05:09.320 And in fact, is it not more likely because of technology?

00:05:13.400 Let me read some more.

00:05:14.060 In fact, Rosenfeld, a far more learned figure on the subject, devotes the final section of

00:05:19.160 his book to taking up and elaborating upon the necessity of confronting the potential

00:05:23.640 for a Second Holocaust, as has the Israeli historian Benny Morris, who mordently observed that this

00:05:31.040 time a Second Holocaust would be much easier to accomplish. 1.00

00:05:34.960 A single thermonuclear weapon could kill six million Israeli Jews in six seconds on a strike

00:05:40.600 on Tel Aviv rather than the six years it took Hitler.

00:05:44.980 Wow, I'll stop talking about Jews in the Holocaust, but I'll talk about the war against 1.00

00:05:48.840 civil liberties and civilization in general, the authoritarian instinct, the power of propaganda

00:05:54.100 and social control.

00:05:55.440 Put aside the Jews. 1.00

00:05:57.180 Focus on the Nazism. 0.92

00:05:59.460 Do you see Rosenbaum's point and the point of others?

00:06:01.500 He quotes, it was done once, so it is more likely to be done a second time than not at

00:06:06.680 all, once you think the thought and the technology to do it now, unimaginably powerful, a single

00:06:12.780 nuclear bomb, not a six-year war.

00:06:14.980 Now apply that to the technology of oppression.

00:06:18.760 Again, put aside the Jews. 1.00

00:06:19.980 There really aren't a lot of Jews left in Austria today.

00:06:22.180 There were just under 200,000 Jews at the start of the Holocaust.

00:06:25.220 Today there are fewer than 10,000 Jews.

00:06:27.180 So what's being done to Austria isn't about Jews or anti-Semitism, it's about power and

00:06:32.360 control and authoritarianism against everyone of every religion and race. 0.99

00:06:36.600 There aren't enough Jews to hate, really, but the unvaccinated or the new Jews, the dirty 1.00

00:06:41.740 people, the unclean ones jeopardizing the rest of us. 1.00

00:06:45.940 And listen to this.

00:06:47.020 Listen to this.

00:07:13.000 who's going to stop that if this were said in north korea or iran or venezuela or russia a

00:07:26.060 couple years ago wouldn't there be congressional hearings about it and justin trudeau well not him

00:07:30.700 but someone else saying they care i mean the un is fine with tyranny but how about those in the west

00:07:36.080 who still actually claim to care a bit about freedom and liberalism but it's tough for the

00:07:41.540 west including america to lecture the world on lockdowns and forced medical procedures and civil

00:07:46.220 liberties infractions when america in the west is home to so many of the same things at least in the

00:07:52.600 states there are some objectors in canada the entire national establishment is complicit that's austria

00:08:01.080 reverting to a caricature of itself i love austria i've been there twice once as a teenager and once

00:08:06.800 on my way to iraq a few years ago what a contrast that was vienna the center of western culture opera

00:08:13.160 art architecture so beautiful and then i went on to erbil the city in iraq that is a pile of terrorist 0.80

00:08:19.700 rubble the contrast couldn't be more stark but isn't the real strength of the west the freedom

00:08:27.160 the liberal values the civilization the humanity isn't that the foundation upon which all the other

00:08:32.800 superstructures are built yeah there's gorgeous architecture in vienna but that's not the

00:08:37.000 foundation is it i'm sad for austria but i see some won't take it lying down i see even some police

00:08:46.400 are refusing to enforce the nazi-like orders i'm surprised they're still left in the force two

00:08:51.140 years later sorry it's not godwin's law when police in austria really start enforcing public hygiene against

00:08:57.160 lower castes and demanding papers that's one of the few times and places where you really can invoke 0.74

00:09:02.060 hitler without people saying oh don't invoke hitler now let's move from austria to australia

00:09:07.320 get a load of this guy as you know last night we took an urgent action to escalate our response in

00:09:14.320 these communities immediately implementing a hard lockdown that means residents of injari and rock

00:09:19.540 hole no longer have the five reasons to leave their home they can only leave for medical treatment

00:09:24.660 in an emergency or if required by law it's highly likely that more residents will be transferred to

00:09:29.980 cow springs today either as positive cases or close contacts we've already identified 38 close

00:09:35.840 contacts in pinjari and that number will go up those 38 are being transferred now i contacted the

00:09:43.660 prime minister last night we are grateful for the support of about 20 adf personnel as well as army

00:09:48.940 trucks to assist with the transfer of positive cases and close contacts and to support the communities

00:09:53.540 holy cow imagine that in in black and white footage in the original german he's talking about taking

00:10:00.000 people away to government camps using the army the army meant to fight against i don't know china

00:10:07.500 most likely but foreigners whatever being deployed street by street home by home to arrest and deport 0.67

00:10:12.780 citizens who are unclean except for politicians they've exempted themselves get a load of this 1.00

00:10:18.140 this kind my eye oh yeah that's not a watering down that's specific advice uh legal advice and

00:10:29.240 uh supported by the solicitor general that there are uh constitutional and other um legal protections

00:10:35.960 for some of those groups that mean that a mandate uh was really not a recommendation for those groups

00:10:41.160 um does that apply to mps too i mean are there state mps in the parliament yeah i believe so again

00:10:47.780 again legal legal impediments or legal recommendations that uh mps can't be uh within those mandates that's

00:10:54.860 not to say that there aren't other mechanisms uh for mps to be managed but um the treasurer can speak

00:10:59.740 for that that is no longer mps are no longer part of the public health order no mps have not been

00:11:06.720 part of the the mandate for legal advice uh around that but as i understand it not required

00:11:12.300 um for mps in victoria as well yeah well get on of this lady she seems nice you are not being 0.99

00:11:20.720 discriminated against you choose to do something that puts other people's lives at risk and you will

00:11:28.680 be accountable you will be held accountable for that choice it is that simple that's what we're

00:11:34.660 talking about here people who don't get the vaccine are making a choice you have a choice we all have

00:11:41.580 choices to make we all get a choice you're making a choice that means you're more more likely to get

00:11:49.860 covered and you're more likely to spread it to someone else and that is your choice it is your right

00:11:55.840 i want to make that clear and i support that choice i'm just checking this bill says the freedom

00:12:03.220 unvaccinated is more important than the freedom of the vaccinated really i don't think so

00:12:11.520 not on my watch here's the thing being held accountable for your own actions isn't called 0.99

00:12:18.140 discrimination it's called being you wouldn't believe it a goddamn bloody adult that's right 0.98

00:12:24.860 being an adult it's putting others before yourself and that's what this country's supposed to be 0.98

00:12:31.820 about that is why they're doing it one nation is the champion for the right for unvaccinated

00:12:39.320 i don't think so it's not going to happen under my watch and i doubt very much if it's going to

00:12:44.280 happen under premier gutwin's watch we're not going to stand for it the way out of lockdowns

00:12:51.100 restrictions is vaccinations because there is nothing else on the table let's be honest about

00:12:56.040 that it's the only weapon we have that's what we need to do sometimes sacrifices have to be made

00:13:04.040 this bill flies in the face of all of that and that's why i absolutely oppose every every bit of it

00:13:10.820 these people are unhinged but come on it's not going to get actually nazi would it i mean it couldn't

00:13:20.840 couldn't right well i know what ron rosenbaum would say is there something genetically different 0.60

00:13:28.020 between australians today and germans 80 years ago no we're the same men and women we probably have less

00:13:34.220 liberal culture in our blood less history less knowledge less philosophy now than they did 80 years

00:13:39.780 ago i mean we're not taught about liberal values anymore i think germany in the 1930s was probably

00:13:45.360 more progressive more modern than we are now but they succumbed and again that was before the

00:13:51.200 technology of today just as iran could do a holocaust in six seconds where it took hitler six years the 0.77

00:13:59.560 australian police could do a gestapo through cell phone apps where it took the nazis or papers to do it

00:14:07.700 one step at a time police had to be everywhere in nazi germany and the lands that the nazis conquered

00:14:12.880 they needed everyone to cooperate they now they did have plenty of snitches and informants and

00:14:18.140 collaborators wherever they went it's true but they still did need those people on the ground they didn't

00:14:23.740 have the panopticon of our modern surveillance state facial recognition software ubiquitous closed

00:14:30.220 circuit video cameras gps tracking your every moves credit card tracking big data ai they didn't have that

00:14:37.160 back then i'm here to tell you that when germany and austria went nazi it happened in stages in steps

00:14:44.020 and no one believed it would go all the way why what would they they just slowly conditioned themselves

00:14:49.540 to the next step and the next step year by year the emergency was made permanent year by year the

00:14:54.760 extreme solutions were slowly ratcheted up from banning jews and the nuremberg laws banning them from

00:15:01.760 public life to banning them from life at all from a temporary solution to a final solution

00:15:08.280 don't get caught up on the jews part just think of the ratchet effect of what you already today in 2021 0.74

00:15:16.900 take as normal now the losses of civil liberties that have already been accepted and even adopted by you

00:15:23.500 just think about that there is a flicker of hope i i see it in australia as the country gets worse than

00:15:32.420 ever some people are rising up hundreds of thousands in melbourne i don't think any of them believe that

00:15:40.880 they have a nazi as a premier in the state of victoria they don't they have a communist just as 0.56

00:15:45.780 authoritarian um but they see his moves his emergency legislation to make him a de facto dictator they

00:15:53.000 they see it not everyone sees it but hundreds of thousands now do boy i hope it's enough

00:15:59.700 stay with us for more on this with andrew lawton

00:16:15.780 well these days the kids say pics or it didn't happen as in show me the proof or i don't believe you

00:16:23.140 that's pretty easy in an era of the ubiquitous cell phone camera in fact i think we have too many

00:16:29.540 photos and too many videos but it's true i mean did anything even happen before the age of photography

00:16:37.820 the civil war in the united states was one of the first photographed wars it's hard to imagine what wars

00:16:45.580 looked like before then we just have paintings and portraits and stories and how credible are they

00:16:51.980 and even when we think of the second world war and the holocaust although there was photography and

00:16:58.680 video and film it wasn't called video then it was in black and white and it was usually grainy

00:17:04.780 and i tell you these obvious things because when we think of tyranny in a historical setting

00:17:12.600 we don't imagine it being normal in full color we imagine it being grainy and black and white and

00:17:19.820 probably spoken in a german accent by people in military uniforms but i should tell you even if

00:17:25.780 you don't know this holocaust happened in full color with normal people flesh and bone it's just that 0.97

00:17:33.440 our recordings of it are in black and white and i tell you this because i tell you that if tyranny

00:17:39.040 were to reemerge in the year 2021 and if it forgot to speak in a german accent and wear a nazi uniform

00:17:46.420 would we detect it if tyranny came in the form of medical doctors would our guard be down as i told

00:17:54.760 you the other day in the doctor's trial some of the most horrific crimes committed by the nazis

00:18:00.180 were done not by military men but by medical doctors it was those disgraceful atrocious shocking

00:18:08.100 experiments including those done by dr joseph bengala the so-called angel of death that led to

00:18:14.540 the publication of the 10 principles of the nuremberg code so i say to you that if in the year 2021

00:18:21.120 tyranny came with an md not a four-star general and if it came speaking english with a smile

00:18:28.420 instead of a german with a scowl would we really be morally and politically emotionally ready to

00:18:37.180 defend against it i don't think we would i don't think we have i think we've seen the proof of that

00:18:42.300 this past year and a half but how odd it is that the country of austria the country of hitler's birth

00:18:50.560 is the country taking the most tyrannical the most fascist approach to vaccine lockdowns even talking

00:18:59.520 about forcibly jabbing people and imprisoning them at home forever if they don't comply i showed you

00:19:06.480 this video before take a look that's in full color but if it were in black and white and if they were

00:19:16.220 asking for your papers rather than your covid app would it be any different austria is leading the

00:19:23.240 way here's their chancellor saying he could go harsher he wants to go harsher still he wished he did

00:19:29.520 this before take a look ab montag for maximal 20 tage wird ein bundesweiter lockdown gelten der nach zehn

00:19:38.480 tagen evaluiert wird er endet automatisch spätestens am 13 dezember ab diesen datum ab dem 13 dezember gilt

00:19:48.920 für geimpfte und genesene kein lockdown mehr zum beschluss dass es ja rasch jetzt eine bundesweite

00:19:56.100 impflicht in die wege leiten diese soll bereits ab ersten februar nächsten jahres 2022 gelten

00:20:04.200 well that's just austria germany wants to get on the bandwagon across the european union we see the dark

00:20:11.840 fascism reviving will it come to canada or is it already here joining us now via skype is our friend

00:20:18.360 andrew lawton from tnc.news andrew i know i'm sounding quite dramatic and maybe even a little sad

00:20:24.320 but the people who were in germany in the 30s were the most educated enlightened rational

00:20:34.120 scientific thinkers of europe germany was the home of culture and learning and and literature and poetry

00:20:43.920 and music these were not taliban illiterates these were the leaders of culture and they embraced if not

00:20:53.700 at first eventually the worst fascism known is it possible that it could be happening again

00:21:01.120 one thing that i i think is so paramount and you touched on it there ezra is that you need a

00:21:08.900 population that's willing to go along with this and we oftentimes especially on the right tend to

00:21:14.500 look at enumerated rights and freedoms as being the be-all and end-all the u.s bill of rights the

00:21:20.480 canadian charter of rights and freedoms for all its flaws and and similar charters and constitutions

00:21:25.560 around the world but none of these freedoms matter in the least if you don't have a culture 0.99

00:21:30.920 that is committed to upholding them and i think you you've acknowledged the biggest danger here which

00:21:36.780 is not that we have governments that are resorting to what i think are objectively tyrannical measures

00:21:42.540 when it comes to uh the auspices of public health but that they're doing it with a population

00:21:47.200 that is not only complacent but in in many respects encouraging and welcoming it 0.89

00:21:53.700 you know there's so many similarities uh the nazi propaganda referred to jews as dirty 0.98

00:22:02.400 as carrying disease of untermenschen and here we see and we learn from black locks recently 0.96

00:22:10.940 that justin trudeau had polling prior to the last election that told him if he demonized

00:22:18.700 the vac the unvaccinated as unclean threats to the west rest of society that would resonate 1.00

00:22:25.240 with a sizable number of voters i mean one is unvaccinated one is jewish obviously that's a

00:22:34.320 difference but the demonization of sectors of society i mean i i i guess it's true you can

00:22:43.400 you can try and improve a culture over time but at the end of the day we're all sinners we all have

00:22:48.840 these psychological blind spots there's hatred and fear in all of us and this is a reminder of how

00:22:56.800 quickly a population can be weaponized against itself indeed and i think that's where the comparison

00:23:03.320 is an important one i i don't go so far as to generally speaking in my commentary

00:23:08.180 liken anything to the holocaust because the the final goal here is different we're not talking

00:23:13.080 about a government agenda on extermination but we are talking about a systematic delegitimization

00:23:19.060 and segregation and and denial of people's rights been the thing in austria that i i find so

00:23:25.700 fascinating here and and i should say i i was actually uh just two weeks and a day ago i i got back

00:23:31.360 from austria i was there on a holiday and i was sitting in a cafe and i was chatting with my wife

00:23:36.460 and we were remarking about how how normal it all felt there compared to life in canada life in

00:23:42.660 ontario specifically and it's amazing what a difference a few weeks can make that that place

00:23:48.420 that was again feeling relatively free you had to use a vaccine passport but you could also use a

00:23:54.300 negative test or proof of acquired immunity not perfect but better than the systems that we have

00:24:00.120 in in place in in canadian provinces and and then you go forward a couple of weeks and we're talking

00:24:05.260 about mandatory vaccination legitimately the threat of jail time the threat of jail time according to

00:24:12.300 the guardian for people who by february are not vaccinated this is the only country in the world

00:24:18.780 apart from turkmenistan which is generally not the company in like in which i like to find myself for

00:24:24.580 matters of public policy the only western uh supposedly democratic country in the world to go this far

00:24:29.820 and as we know with europe it's typically a case of them moving in packs germany is already acknowledging

00:24:36.600 that it is not going to take anything off the table which is not exactly a comforting line from a german

00:24:42.960 official for obvious reasons and numerous other countries as well that are seeing a demand from

00:24:48.780 the who do increase to ramp up their measures and yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's public

00:24:54.700 policy i said that on your show a couple of months ago and here we are with a vaccine mandate in place

00:25:00.580 in a western nation i find it depressing i find it too on the nose that austria is one of the places where

00:25:07.240 this public health fascism is returning um but on the other hand i see in australia which has gone nuts

00:25:15.500 also now they're actually using the australian defense force their their army to literally round

00:25:21.200 up people and take them to quarantine i mean it's like you say alex jones of infowars come back all is

00:25:27.140 forgiven literally i mean what is there a single prediction he made that hasn't come true on this

00:25:32.440 stuff but on the other hand in melbourne there were protests that the police themselves counted in the

00:25:40.200 hundreds of thousands of people and i i don't know my australian domestic political history very

00:25:46.500 well but it's got to have been a long time since hundreds of thousands of people mobilized and that

00:25:53.040 made me think of other historical examples let's put aside the nazis for a bit the soviet union in the fall

00:26:00.040 of the eastern bloc in poland where you had mass protests not that big but you had a million people

00:26:06.500 hear the pope and you had the solidarity shipbuilding union movement and you did have people take to the

00:26:14.300 streets and say enough is enough i don't know maybe they had an anonymity back then because they

00:26:20.180 weren't tracked on their apps and there weren't facial recognition software they had their other

00:26:25.040 spies i wonder i wonder what's going to happen if you have hundreds of thousands of people standing up

00:26:31.340 in melbourne saying we don't accept this tyranny is it enough to stop it i i don't know and and will

00:26:38.060 they be punished will they be more compliant than the solidarity protesters in poland some you know

00:26:44.380 30 years ago well i i think it's an interesting question because one of the challenges in austria

00:26:50.380 which has a relatively low vaccination rate compared to other countries especially in europe is that it has a

00:26:58.700 political party that unlike in most countries you and i have been exploring is actually standing up

00:27:04.620 for freedom they have i believe it's called the austrian freedom party party or the freedom party of

00:27:08.940 austria it's the third largest party in the austrian legislature and they have actually been standing up

00:27:15.100 and standing firm against these mandates so in austria you actually do have represented in the political

00:27:20.940 system some of these views and values that are being expressed in protests whether that will be enough to

00:27:27.900 resist this i don't yet know but i i do think that we have the power of the ballot box and and whatever we

00:27:35.820 are annoyed with when it comes to governments and democratically elected governments that then use

00:27:40.220 their mandate to do any number of things that were not even on the table when people went to the polls

00:27:45.340 you still have to hope that it's possible to get rid of these people and and replace them with someone

00:27:49.900 that's going to take a much better a much better view of these things and and the challenge is that in in australia

00:27:56.140 australia and and just actually i'll say back up and talk about canada justin trudeau has done things

00:28:01.660 that you and i have talked about at great length and canadians voted him back in the problem is that

00:28:07.100 a lot of these people in the streets i fear are not actually a majority yeah not just that but you're right

00:28:13.820 to point out in austria at least they have the seed crystal of an official political party

00:28:18.700 on their side showing them that they weren't alone in canada all ten provinces both the

00:28:23.660 governments and the oppositions are in lockstep all five major parties in parliament in complete

00:28:28.460 agreement on the essentials of the lockdown and the mandated vaccines so i think it's harder

00:28:34.300 to break the conformity by the way uh solidarity in polo was 40 years ago i said 30.

00:28:40.540 um i uh i'm worried about i don't know much about austrian politics but i i'm i've heard of

00:28:50.620 some of these freedom-oriented parties there and in germany alternative for deutschland same sort of

00:28:55.820 thing they have a they're a minority party that's for sure but they do they're sort of like the people's

00:29:00.060 party of canada but if they had elected some seeds and i think that there's a real chance

00:29:07.820 that those political parties may be criminalized for what they're saying and we've seen this

00:29:15.020 i saw the president of pfizer say that false criticisms of his vaccine should be

00:29:22.700 criminalized that's not too far away from what most governments in the west are talking about

00:29:27.500 doing on the internet uh katherine mckenna the disgraced former cabinet minister is tweeting about

00:29:33.500 how you should be banned uh from saying certain things on twitter that she disagrees with we know

00:29:40.300 that twitter bans ordinary people but i think that they're gonna in here's my prediction andrew

00:29:47.340 i predict that maxime bernier himself will be prosecuted in canada for some sort of thought crime

00:29:54.460 and that in in europe in these countries where you refer to i predict that there will be an attempt

00:29:59.260 to criminalize these freedom-oriented parties it's just a speculative prediction but i i fear

00:30:05.020 we're getting worse one of the dangers here that i would point out and i actually mentioned this in

00:30:10.940 a column this morning is that we we're talking about a country that has by virtue of making vaccines

00:30:17.340 mandatory and i don't mean mandatory to go to a restaurant or mandatory to get on a plane but

00:30:21.820 mandatory to exist as a citizen of austria a country that has made vaccination something over

00:30:27.100 which you no longer have the right to choose when a country has done that they've already accepted

00:30:33.020 that you as an individual do not have rights unless the state gives them to you they've already accepted

00:30:38.380 that the state has authority of over you once that fundamental premise is overcome everything else

00:30:44.860 is just a matter of degrees i think you're so right you know what you mentioned you were in austria

00:30:51.180 enjoying a lovely afternoon and then all of a sudden things got a lot worse i think that that's

00:30:55.660 what's happened for the last two years it's been a yo-yo it's been obedience conditioning uh like like

00:31:03.100 when you're training a new puppy you know give them a little freedom take it away give it away

00:31:07.900 practice conditioning them to be obedient and you know all the different waves the different um variations of

00:31:18.460 this virus the different walk downs i think they're demoralizing people they're trying to destabilize

00:31:24.780 people make them dejected make them tired make them forget that this whole thing was supposed

00:31:30.460 to be a temporary emergency i think that it will never end until people decide for it to end i think

00:31:38.700 relying on the political and bureaucratic public health deep state to end it is unrealistic here's

00:31:44.860 a clip of fauci saying get used to taking boosters a couple times here for the rest of your life here's

00:31:51.340 a clip of that we would hope and and and this is something that we're looking at very carefully

00:31:56.780 that that dirt shot with the mrna not only boosts you way up but increases the durability so that you

00:32:04.700 will not necessarily need it every six months or a year we're hoping it pushes it out more if it doesn't

00:32:11.900 and the data show we do need it more often then we'll do it i really think that if we don't have a leader

00:32:18.300 like a ron desantis of florida we will never be out of this if you had to and i i know it's unfair to

00:32:25.660 ask you this but andrew if you had to predict do you think that this public health emergency will

00:32:33.420 become permanent i i think elements of it will be uh you know for example i i don't think that a

00:32:41.100 maskless air travel is ever coming back or not in the foreseeable future and i i do think that to some

00:32:46.220 extent if we have people tracking the severity of various annual flus i i could see flu shots

00:32:52.620 becoming subject to a vaccine passport because as i said once you've already overcome the hurdle

00:32:57.580 that this is a normal way to run society everything else is just a matter of how far you want to take

00:33:03.180 it or how you want to specifically apply it so the idea of saying but you can't do that because we we

00:33:08.780 reject that we've already gotten rid of that this is no longer an encroachment of rights it's an

00:33:13.260 obliteration of them so i i do think that aspects of this are here to stay and i do think that the

00:33:18.540 danger of it is that because that trend you just mentioned of people feeling so demoralized and

00:33:23.260 dejected has become such a force people will take whatever crumbs of liberty they're thrown if i i put

00:33:30.620 out a poll question on twitter an informal question last week about maskless air travel and i had people

00:33:36.140 saying you shouldn't complain you know that that's just you know fine that's just the price of getting

00:33:40.380 back to normal now and people that do not like masks they don't love wearing them they don't

00:33:44.940 love being told they have to but they're just so demoralized that it can get any better that they'll

00:33:50.540 take whatever they're given well i like you very much andrew but you've made me very sad today

00:33:57.100 um likewise that's right it was a it was a doomed to fail from the beginning i think well it's great to

00:34:02.300 see you i keep uh encouraging our people to follow your stuff at tnc.news and all our friends at true

00:34:08.700 north and of course on the andrew lawton show great to see you my friend thanks for coming on the show

00:34:13.340 thank you all right there you have it stay with us

00:34:26.860 hey welcome back your viewer feedback alberta patriot one says just like the legion the salvation

00:34:33.420 army have abandoned all their morals and have joined the globalist clowns in their evil agendas

00:34:39.020 neither one will get my nickel from my family ever get woke and go broke yeah i am sure that these

00:34:46.620 organizations are overwhelmingly staffed with great people but there's a few woke executives at the top

00:34:53.660 who have made these terrible decisions i i've seen it in the legion i've seen politically correct people

00:34:58.780 uh in the head office of the legion bring in absurd policies that surely don't represent the

00:35:04.140 membership i think that's the same thing going on here in the salvation army and i hope they they

00:35:08.700 get a course correction someone with the friendly nickname our leaders lie says wow this christmas is

00:35:15.820 going to be great i won't be supporting any business that asks anything personal about my medical info

00:35:21.740 and any business who pushes it on their staff talk with your money and don't give it to drug pushers

00:35:28.300 well that's going to be tough it's sort of like deciding you're not going to buy things from china

00:35:33.740 that really does limit it thing is i mean there was a restaurant i walked into they wouldn't let me in and

00:35:40.620 the staffer who i presume was a minimum wage waiter said look it's not me it's my boss and if i had

00:35:45.420 talked to the boss he'd probably say it's not me it's the police i think you have to go to the root of

00:35:50.460 the problem but it's also terrible that there's such total compliance amongst the masses and

00:35:55.820 anyone who shows any independence the state crushes them into powder that's what that show of force

00:36:01.660 against adam skelly and his barbecue last year was all about well that's the show for tonight until

00:36:08.460 tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep

00:36:13.420 fighting for freedom and let me leave you with an interview from alberta's provincial conservative

00:36:19.180 party's conference over the weekend where our adam sos and other teammates were reporting on the

00:36:24.460 inside asking questions of a government that we generally criticize but unlike other governments

00:36:29.980 they actually let us into their party i'll leave you with that until tomorrow bye bye

00:36:38.300 well good afternoon it's great to be here as we wrap up the united conservative party's

00:36:43.100 2021 agm alberta is back it's on a roll alberta's on the rise and that is certainly the spirit that i

00:36:50.300 felt from the 1600 delegates here this weekend with adam happy to take your questions good afternoon

00:36:56.060 premier adam sos from rebel news i think it's fair to say that there's potentially a bit of a trust

00:37:00.700 issue among perhaps the more civic libertarian minded people in alberta at the calgary stampede breakfast

00:37:07.100 you boasted about reverting a hundred-year-old mandatory vaccine law you also said that vax

00:37:12.380 passports would violate health privacy laws months later despite commitments to oppose these vaccine

00:37:18.460 passports they were implemented minister lagrange has now called that there would be no vaccine

00:37:23.980 passports for those aged 5 through 11. how can we know that that commitment will be upheld

00:37:29.260 adam sos here for revolt news and this is the final day of the united conservative party annual

00:37:38.060 general meeting this is a much shorter day policies and motions will not be debated this is largely

00:37:44.620 election preparation and socialization for some people but there will be a media scrum today and that

00:37:51.260 is ultimately what we're here for we're hoping to bring some tough questions well good afternoon it's

00:37:56.620 great to be here as we wrap up the united conservative party's 2021 agm we didn't even

00:38:02.380 think we would be able to have an in-person agm not long ago in fact the decision to hold this meeting

00:38:07.260 wasn't made until about a month ago so we put together uh this incredibly successful uh gathering of

00:38:14.780 grassroots conservatives in just four weeks time with over 1600 registered delegates that's the largest

00:38:20.700 uh agm that we've had since our founding convention as a party back in 2017 just the spirit of positivity

00:38:27.900 in the halls um i've had a chance to speak to hundreds of delegates from all across the province

00:38:32.380 and was so uh profoundly encouraged by them uh to uh about the performance of the government and

00:38:39.180 and delivering on our commitments to albertans the 83 percent of our platform commitments that we delivered

00:38:43.900 on uh the huge economic renewal as i said in my speech yesterday it's clear that while we still

00:38:49.820 have a way to go uh to be careful on covid that alberta's economy is recovering uh leading the

00:38:56.700 country in economic recovery rick bell calgary sun you seem very very happy today and uh that's obvious

00:39:04.060 um you talked about the how you felt about gathering with the people and the reaction you had

00:39:10.540 what is your plan apart from covid what is your plan to win back the hearts and minds of albertans

00:39:16.860 as opposed to just the party members that were here today well the plan is to focus on the priorities

00:39:23.180 of albertans which i believe obviously is getting through what's left of covid safely and then seeing

00:39:30.460 real strong economic recovery this government was elected on a platform to have jobs economy and pipelines

00:39:38.860 and we have seen the completion of one pipeline we're on progress before the completion of a second

00:39:44.780 we've seen alberta nearly leading the country in job growth 90 000 net new jobs this year and on the

00:39:50.380 economy obviously there's incredibly good news and much more to come many of the announced

00:39:56.220 investment announcements that we have made over the past few months actually go into the ground in 2022

00:40:02.060 and 2023 which means that as we approach the next election albertans are going to see

00:40:07.260 tangible proof everywhere they go about uh an economy that is uh moving on all cylinders so i think that

00:40:16.140 uh as is usually the case uh the the key issue in the next election will be uh who best can uh continue

00:40:24.380 that economic growth and recovery and i think it will be evident that the policies of the conservative

00:40:30.060 government have put us in that position so we will continue to focus on albertans priorities

00:40:34.860 uh and that means job number one jobs in the economy uh but it also means uh continuing uh to stand up

00:40:43.180 for this province continue the fight for a fair deal and of course the broader theme of making life better

00:40:48.780 for albertans but i think we'll be we will be judged in the spring of 2023 uh based on how we performed

00:40:56.060 on the commitments that we made i'm confident that we will by that time have delivered on well over 90

00:41:03.980 percent of our election commitments from 2019 and the most important being uh that i think we will be

00:41:11.180 far exceeding far exceeding uh our uh our commitments in terms of economic uh and job growth good afternoon

00:41:18.700 premier adam sos from rebel news i think it's fair to say that there's potentially a bit of a trust issue

00:41:23.660 among perhaps the more civic libertarian minded uh people uh in alberta at the calgary stampede breakfast

00:41:29.740 you boasted about reverting a hundred-year-old mandatory vaccine law you also said that vax

00:41:35.020 passports would violate health privacy laws months later despite commitments to oppose these vaccine

00:41:41.100 passports they were implemented minister lagrange has now called that there would be no vaccine

00:41:46.620 passports for those aged 5 through 11. how can we know that that commitment will be upheld

00:41:52.540 well first of all adam thank you for the question uh we did amend the public health act this spring

00:41:57.980 following uh the advice of a legislative legislature committee to remove the power of mandatory

00:42:04.700 inoculation that had been in that law since 1910 so alberta no longer has the legal power to compel

00:42:12.220 somebody to be to be vaccinated and we did that precisely to underscore that at the end of the day

00:42:18.220 people will choose whether or not they get vaccinated we obviously strongly encourage them to do so the

00:42:23.500 restriction exemption and program in no way constitutes a mandatory vaccination it applies to discretionary

00:42:31.260 activities activities that are not necessary for uh for for basic the exercise of uh basic life uh this

00:42:38.780 is things like going to nightclubs and casinos uh hockey games and uh and concerts um where the chance of

00:42:45.740 viral transmission is extremely high we know that 90 percent of people in icus have been unvaccinated

00:42:50.620 and we know that we were uh very close to completely exceeding the maximum capacity of

00:42:55.820 of critical care in our hospital system so we had to do something and it was either that or revert to uh

00:43:02.860 brutally tough widespread shutdowns of businesses potentially schools places of worship so i think we

00:43:08.940 we did what was necessary um to allow society to continue to function openly while limiting spread

00:43:15.660 and protecting our health care system in terms of the school uh this children uh between the

00:43:20.780 ages of five and eleven as you know health canada has now authorized the use of the pfizer pediatric

00:43:26.300 vaccine uh for kids in that age age range and we encourage parents to look carefully at the

00:43:32.620 scientific evidence about the safety and efficacy of those vaccines while at the same time recognizing

00:43:37.420 that children at in that age are at a much lower risk than adults of severe outcomes

00:43:42.060 um and because of that we don't think it's uh it's necessary and for a fact i think it would be

00:43:48.860 wrong to effectively uh punish little kids in doing things like sports activities and and uh

00:43:56.140 uh and and basic uh basic activities uh because their parents have chosen not to get them vaccinated

00:44:02.780 the choice is not the children's choice the choice is their parents choice um and so i don't think we

00:44:08.140 uh there's not a compelling public health need there because children of that age range with 0.99

00:44:13.580 almost no exceptions they don't end up in hospital we've had um zero deaths in covet under the age of

00:44:18.940 18 um uh typically at most we might have one person under the age of 18 in an icu uh so there is no

00:44:25.900 compelling public health need uh to do that and and uh and furthermore our polling indicates that

00:44:31.500 that roughly 50 percent of parents of children in that age range age range do not intend to have their

00:44:37.100 five to 11 year olds vaccinated so again we wouldn't want to create a situation where um

00:44:42.140 you know six-year-olds can't go to a birthday party at a restaurant because their parents didn't get

00:44:45.900 them vaccinated and a quick follow-up um when on the horizon can we expect vaccine mandates to

00:44:51.580 dissipate um there are there is a percentage of the population who will not be vaccinated

00:44:55.740 um can they expect to live like this forever what's the prospect so we will maintain the

00:45:00.860 restriction exemption program through the winter because of the uh prospect of uh of um seasonal

00:45:08.620 headwinds of cold weather forcing more people indoors of potential waning of immunity both from

00:45:15.340 prior infection and from vaccines we need to be careful through the winter months

00:45:19.740 so we've said that we'll maintain the program at least into the first quarter of next year

00:45:23.900 i very much hope i very much hope that by that time we will see um uh with higher vaccine rates

00:45:31.420 hopefully by that time by next spring will be over 90 first dose coverage uh we'll have had a wider

00:45:37.500 rollout of uh booster shots uh we'll have seen the pediatric vaccines for those who want them

00:45:43.420 and and um and so i'm very hopeful that by uh towards the end of the first quarter of next year

00:45:51.020 we can end the restriction exemption program the idea is not to have this as a permanent

00:45:55.100 feature of our society and i said in my speech yesterday that we must move forward um to manage

00:46:02.140 risk the risk of covid while getting on with our lives and so we are focused on increasing uh icu capacity

00:46:11.020 in wider use of rapid tests and um and and wider use of therapeutics like monoclonal antibody therapies

00:46:19.260 uh as a strategy going forward to manage risk well there you have it folks that is a wrap on our

00:46:26.780 coverage of the 2021 united conservative party agm jason kenney certainly saw the event through rose

00:46:34.300 colored glasses for the rest of us present here despite more support than we likely expected for

00:46:39.500 jason kenney there are still seeds of division here we were happy to be here and we thank you for

00:46:45.020 your support in helping us be here to cover this event and to cover the other side of the story

00:46:49.740 as always i want to thank you for tuning in for rebel news i'm adam sos

00:46:56.700 as always we are out here telling the other side of the story asking the questions that you want

00:47:01.340 answers to if you want to help us bringing you this side of the story you can chip in at realreporters.ca

00:47:15.020 have a great day

Rebel News Podcast - November 23, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Austria and Australia. I’m glad I don’t live in either one and I’ll show you why

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