EZRA LEVANT ｜ Barbara Kay on the rise of antisemitic crime in Canada
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Barbara Kay joins us to talk about the anti-semitic crime wave going on across Canada, and why the authorities are so keen to normalize it, but so are they? And why is it happening in the first place?
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tonight battle of the pessimists between me and barbara k who despairs more for our future
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how's that for a pitch it's august 26 this is the s levante show
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well there's a crime wave going on across canada we've talked about it many times
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if you um are in a big city like toronto montreal vancouver you know that one of the expressions
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of that crime wave is in auto thefts of any high-end automobile i'm not talking about rolls royces or
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bentley so those those would obviously be stolen right away but even just a nice acura or a nice
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audi they're stolen right off of your driveway often with a home invasion type robbery
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astonishingly the toronto police you'll recall gave advice to people to leave their key fobs near the
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front door to make it easier for the criminals to find them without marauding through your house
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there is a crime wave but that obscures another crime wave or maybe it creates a general feeling
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that lawlessness is allowed that broken windows theory of james q wilson that if you allow
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a little bit of crime people observe and get the message that this is a place where things are allowed
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and what was once unthinkable becomes normalized and i'm talking in specific about the anti-semitic
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crime wave in this country and i think it meets that definition and uh i'm jewish myself as you know
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and so i sometimes check myself and say am i interested in this anti-semitic crime wave only
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because i'm jewish or only because some of it's happening right in my own neighborhood or even
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in institutions that i personally frequent would i be as concerned about a crime wave in this country
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that was say targeting black people if you had black churches with arson attacks in the dead of night
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if you had people standing outside a black church wearing kkk hoods and chanting not i'm going to kill
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you something specific enough that police would arrest but just uh general racist terms slightly
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coded terms and every week and blocking the streets downtown would i be as upset and i would like to
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think that i would be i'm upset just coming up just even saying that counter example is so extreme
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and absurd we would never accept it for a moment and yet we've accepted it for almost a full year in
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canada and that's what i mean about normalizing and accepting it i feel as if the perpetrators of
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the anti-semitic crime wave are testing like a child seeing if there's any limits and so far the answer
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is not really you see illegal trespasses on university campuses that were tolerated for months
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police coming up with excuses for not enforcing the law compare that to the emergencies act the riot
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horses deployed against completely peaceful trucker protesters and so i say that even though i'm jewish
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and some of the guests we interview on the show are jewish i do believe and i and i have to believe
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that i would stand up for another group that was subject to such similar abuse so why is it being tolerated
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joining us now to talk about this and various conundrums and to rehash some of the crazier stories of recent weeks
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is our friend barbara kay a columnist for the national post and other wonderful places good to
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see you again barbara great to be here ezra there's something weird about this anti-semitic crime wave
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um all the authorities want to downplay it i mean let me tell you from personal experience i i heard on
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the news that a school bus caught fire at 5 a.m and i think school buses don't catch fire they don't
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spontaneously combust maybe if it's driving and it overheats the engine smokes but i just thought
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that doesn't sound right and when i heard where it was i thought i know exactly where that is i went
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there and it was near a synagogue and these were a bunch of school buses for jewish schools parked and
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marked at for the jewish schools and i thought why did the police and why did the media cover up
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the jewish character of these buses and just say the absurd statement a school bus caught fire at 5 a.m
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and two days later a jewish school not far from my house had an arson attack the window smashed and
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they said no just a shed in the back was attacked last example there's a jewish school again not far
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from where i am where in the morning two masked people shot bullets at it and sped away on on motorbikes
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the toronto police detective who gave the press conference on the scene spoke for six minutes
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and didn't once mention the word jewish or anti-semitic he he he did not in any way infer that
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this was other than just some random kids again you know those kids and so barbara it's not just that
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there's a crime wave it's that every institution is trying to downplay it including by the way the
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jewish community which has downplayed this arson attack on the school so what do you make of this
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what do you is it true that there's a crime wave against jews in canada and is it true that it's
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being downplayed by authorities including some official jews well i think there is uh definitely
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a crime wave we've had similar incidents in montreal as you know um and uh individuals have suffered
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uh uh anti-semitic threats and harassment at the encampments i mean if the police i i agree with
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you that the police are downplaying it but i'm asking myself is this a decision that was taken by
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the police or is this does this directive come from higher up that they're how they're supposed to
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respond to the media how they're supposed to communicate uh information about these incidents
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to uh to the public um is it it's the mayor isn't it who is sort of in charge of the police
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in different cities there's police commissions and for example in ontario there's a and in every
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province there's a cabinet minister a position called solicitor general who's typically in charge
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of all police forces and and prisons and and some court processes the prosecution is done by the
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justice minister the attorney general but the solicitor general is in charge of policing i asked
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ontario solicitor general who happens to be an orthodox jewish man i said why aren't you laying
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charges i asked him that about four times in a row here i'll let you look at his answer how come there
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were no charges under section 176 2 of the criminal code besetting a house of worship when all those
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protesters were outside the bayat synagogue in thornhill well it's a question that you're going
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to have to ask the york regional police or the attorney general i'm here because i'm not going to
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see my community intimidated i speak out all the time in support of our jewish community i'm not afraid
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to wear my kippah i'm not afraid to go to synagogue every uh every sabbath every shabbat and i'm going to
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do everything that i can to stand up for our inherent right to live safely in our own homes and communities
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and i'm not going to stop everything's short of prosecuting them though right i mean the u of t
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remains encamped with an illegal encampment you're very good on twitter but have you actually done
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any prosecutions well again this is something that you have to speak to the attorney general he's your
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colleague you're in the government why why should you're on the inside no what i can tell you is i'm
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working every day to tweeting every day that our legislation that our regulations are adhered to
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i'm standing up with my community i've been 34 weeks almost every single week to the rally of
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bathurst and shepherd in support of remembering the hostages who have been held against their will
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in captivity in gaza and it's not acceptable well and that's exactly and that's exactly it obviously is
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acceptable since you're not prosecuting it you have condoned it you've created a new normal where
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people can engage in low-level permanent anti-semitic crimes assault threats mischief because you guys
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don't prosecute but there you are on twitter though so congrats for that it's important that the jewish
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community sees a person from their own community in the ontario legislature standing up against hate
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every single day who has the support of a premier who has called it out where are the other levels of
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government today who who exercise the same voice that premier ford does that we will not accept
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anti-semitism you have accepted it where's the where's the prosecution again this is something you
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could ask minister verani you can ask the prime minister as the province the province prosecutes
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the province prosecutes better save your boss so i recorded that that was outside the jewish school
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that was shot at and i found that very frustrating because every time i said well why aren't your
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police laying charges like there's i mentioned section 176 2 of the criminal code which is a very
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specific section barbara saying you cannot interrupt a religious service it's just it is that simple you
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cannot disrupt disturb a gathering in a church or a synagogue and that must have been written for
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a reason for like i said in in the u.s south sometimes they would the kkk would burn a cross on the
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lawn of a black church and they had a specific law in the canadian criminal code saying you can't disturb
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a religious uh gathering there were enormous pro-hammas protests outside jewish synagogues for hours
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no charges laid that's what i was asking the solicitor general and his answers to me time and again were
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well i'm jewish i go to synagogue i wear a yarmulke yeah i'm i'm actually uh i was very frustrated at
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that clip ezra because you were perfectly right to keep at him and i i mean i call that you know playing
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the kippah card i i really don't like that i don't like uh you know i'm here i'm in support uh this one
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supports that one supports that ford supports everybody supports and says but what you and
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you're quite right what they mean by support is this is terrible it's just like uh justin trudeau
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just said he was disgusted uh at the thought of uh this anonymous letter that came with a threat
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to a hundred jewish institutions in canada that that they're all under threat of who knows what of some
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kind of um attack and everybody's disgusted and concerned disgusted and concerned but and the rcmp
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is supposed to be investigating uh but i i don't know i get a lot of uh people writing to me and saying
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what do they mean by this what are they going to do about it are they when i mean are why does it keep
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going on um and nobody actually arrest these people uh or or at least uh make serious attempts to
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anyways and i found that interview a little disconcerting because he seems clear to me that
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mr kirstner thinks he is doing something positive and something um something that that is actually
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effective in some way by coming out to these protests and coming out and and stating his
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intention you know to keep living as a jew and all that but uh these are words these are words and
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you're right i don't see a lot of action and and i i do think it's a testing of the waters and the fact
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that this threat to jewish institutions has come out suggests to me that they can see there's not a lot of
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bite you know there's bark but no bite and there's it's worthwhile exploring an escalation
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of violence to see what happens yeah i saw that uh email sent to a lot of jewish institutions i i read
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it uh i mean someone sent me a copy of it right away it said there is a bomb in a black backpack uh we and
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they we are the name the courts tell the media this i read it and i immediately thought this is bs
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this is a hoax this is it probably is a hoax this is someone well and the reason i say that is
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justin trudeau weighed in this is disgusting and all the liberal mp this is outrageous because i first
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of all i think it'll be revealed to be a hoax uh which will be used to say all these jews they're
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overreacting but second of all they don't condemn actual crimes real stuff that's going on there were
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there was three three days in a row a couple weeks ago where i covered an arson a day there were four
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arson attacks in a row in three days and that's a real crime i actually don't believe that email
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threat for one second i think it is and for all i know it could be a trick from for someone who has a
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plan to so oh it's all a hoax where are they on actual enforcement of the law let me give you an
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example in the united kingdom they had anti-immigration riots the other day and keir starmer the new prime
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minister set up a 24 hour a day court so he's pounding through the prosecutions one after another
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and some of them are rioters but many of them are people who just tweeted sympathy one guy gesticulated in
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the wrong way like it's one one guy just said uh this you aren't brits anymore to the cops like
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it's so crazy he's making a political point he's a he's taking actual people off the street and he's
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intimidating thousands more police forces across the uk it's like they're putting out sizzle reels
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of their you know they're filming themselves arresting people busting down doors it is a pr
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campaign we have the opposite in canada in fact we have uh the pr is we're bringing in more migrants
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from gaza hooray welcome home trudeau says that when he brings in foreigners welcome home he's saying
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to people from gaza they're bringing in thousands more people from gaza they're not doing so interesting
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it's so interesting that 56 56 muslim islam dominated countries have said no to refugees from gaza
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and canada is well welcoming them without asking without our prime minister asking why is no
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muslim country in the world why do they not want gas and refugees why why would they why would they
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hesitate and trudeau has shown that he can't vet anyone there was a father son tag team isis terror group
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that was uh charged with terrorism offenses the other day they actually committed terrorism overseas
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before trudeau brought them to canada we didn't catch them when you're bringing people from gaza
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not only do 75 percent of gazans support hamas according to their own polls but who selects the
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people who would be coming over if there's any bureaucrats or officials in gaza it's run by hamas hamas has a
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military wing but it also does the machinery of the state if you're choosing three thousand or five
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thousand or ten thousand people to go to canada who's doing the choosing the government i presume
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and the what remains of the government in gaza is hamas we're literally letting a terrorist group
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choose who's coming to canada of course there are terrorists embedded and even if there aren't
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three quarters of them are anti-semitic by their own polls yes uh i i i think that's a big mistake
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uh and will i hope we're not going to see the kind of evidence that i'm worried about uh that will
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prove that it's a big mistake but um that's that's our prime minister he's the prime minister but i see
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every single premier in this country is shy also i was recently talking um i won't say which politician
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but they said please don't ask me about foreign affairs i mean every single politician in this country
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is aware of the fact that demographically in the last 20 years we have quadrupled uh the muslim
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population many of whom are wonderful people who hate sharia law and hate the old ways and they
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really want to be free canadians but many more of them bring with them anti-semitism and ancient hatreds
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anti-christian bigotry um yeah and we just haven't vetted and so it's not just the prime minister
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i mean you you saw there i think that michael kirschner's role is to be a placebo to say to the
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jewish community oh not only do we have jews in government he's literally the solicitor general the
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minister in charge of police so you guys are okay but as a kind of a placebo for not doing anything
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yaara sacks the jewish mp from york center ontario flies to the middle east to shake hands with mahmoud
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abbas i think she was sent as a kind of human shield to buy space for melanie jolie our foreign minister
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was meeting with the terrorism leader and trudeau was brilliant he said have a jewish mp go there just
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so it kosher's the whole event so no one's gonna say what are you doing meeting with terrorists i think
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that let's talk about union leaders i mean we could talk about university presidents many of whom in in
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university leadership are jewish but they abide anti-semitism on their campus and what about
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fred hahn the the head of the public sector workers in ontario the guy is a caricature he's a clownish
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figure but he's he's practically a hamas spokesman no he's he's uh he is really an awful character and
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and and he's been uh tolerated for quite some time uh it's very good to see that it looks like his his
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tenure has has has come to but he just carrying on a tradition in qpi uh you know you you may remember
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sid ryan who was uh head of qpi uh ontario from the 19 early 1990s to almost 2010 uh he he is a big
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anti-semite he has a bad social media uh if you look at his social media history it's it's just as
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bad as fred's uh and he was tolerated for almost 20 years um i don't understand uh how these guys stay
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in for so long and as you say if it was any other group if they were anti-muslim if they were anti-black
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if they were anti anything homophobic anybody else but but jews they would not have lasted 10 minutes
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uh but you know it this normalization of uh of anti-semitism or a certain level of anti-semitism as
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long as it's well it's tweets well it's this well they don't really mean it well he apologized uh they
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don't really apologize they apologize uh that people were offended you know if people were
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offended or that uh they're sorry about the reaction they're not sorry that they you know
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or this sarah jama who's calling for the global intifada the whole i mean it's it's basically the
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left wing in canada um ndp ndp both federally and provincially uh unions these these institutions are
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are deeply infiltrated by uh truly hardcore anti-semites and they are tolerated and they
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and they do tend to rise to positions of of influence uh within these institutions it's a
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serious problem it is and it's not addressed because just not seen or or it's seen but not
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really seen as well it's it's it's it's just not seen as a serious problem you know one of the things
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that's so uh telling is the lengths that the left is willing to go to make excuses for not being offended
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by insane chants and signs and by the way i'm a pretty much a free speech purist but for the people
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who lecture us on microaggressions the people who say oh my god you didn't use my proper pronouns
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you dead named me you misgendered me the people who have a thin skin on that will put themselves
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into pretzels to excuse the phrase from the river to the sea palestine will be free which means
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exterminate every jew in israel between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea
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globalize the intifada there is only one solution intifada revolution intifada means an anti-semitic
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riot a pogrom um they they use the the triangle symbol that's the symbol hamas uses uh for a for
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a target for a gun or a missile even they say we don't hate jews we just hate zionists oh no no
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we're not anti-semitic we just hate zionists zionism of course the mount zion it's it's the central
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feature it's the focus of judaism and and to to excuse all these things with pretzel logic
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would be like if someone said well i'm not against i don't hate christians i hate just hate people who
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follow jesus no no no i got nothing against christians just people who like it's it's so
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the madness and again i'm not calling for censorship of words but the people who claim they do the people
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who claim they're for tolerance and for for anti-bullying they have tolerated
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insanity and much of it comes from foreign people i don't know why i think that's why we're afraid to call
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it out is these are newcomers to this country and we're just too polite to say you guys are bigots
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get the hell out we are we have been tolerating it we they've tolerated in europe they're tolerating it
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uh throughout the entire west uh you and mark stein go back 25 years uh we're warning and openly stating
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we've got a problem here uh you know demographics is destiny um and but you got to admit that they
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propaganda wise they have been extremely successful in kind of a tarring zionism which
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75 years ago when israel began zionism was perceived as what it was the movement for
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self-determination for the jewish people and at that time self-determination
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as a nation was the litmus test for every other nation that was created there were
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50 60 70 i don't know how many nations all were created around the same time because national
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self uh liberation the liberation movement uh was determined uh self-determination was the big thing so
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how only zionism of all these nations you know the same time that israel was created by the un
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syria lebanon iraq these were not nations before uh the 1940s they all they all had the same
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you know time frame in terms of becoming nations you have in syria for example a country that is so
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uh dysfunctional you've had a half a million people killed in civil wars you have a ruler who has used
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chemical weapons against his own people nobody has ever said syria is an illegitimate nation or arab
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self-determination is a bad thing it's a terrible thing it's it's it's uh it's a racist it's a racist
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uh thing even though all arab countries uh were founded uh as nations that were judenrind that had to
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be judenrind in order to self-determine only only israel is multicultural um and has arabs christians
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flourishing um but it's it's considered the evil one but their their propaganda machine mill it's an
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industry that's the only thing that they you know they have not been terrific at building healthy nations
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but they have been very successful with their uh industry of lies about israel and they are now those
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lies are accepted and so to say i don't want zionism i don't want zionists in my restaurant or in my
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bookstore or in i will not publish a zionist and everybody knows it means jews this is now um
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accepted in the same way that uh you know say the the gender ideologues got everybody to believe
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that gender and sex were interchangeable so that everybody's very confused when you say well
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you know a person can become the other gender or the other sex they don't they don't distinguish
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between the two so uh i have to in a way admit defeat that we we have been defeated the jews
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are very clever but they've been defeated in the propaganda wars and no matter how much rational
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stuff we put out and how defensive we get and we have not we we're losing every day on that front
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social media uh universities you know you've got you've got schools now that are are starting
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programs in anti-palestinian racism explain to me what anti-pal or celebration of
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commemoration of nakba day what is nakba day it's it's you know why is it being commemorated uh if
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you ask them it's it's it's just lobbying law they they're they're instituting them
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in order to uh these programs are are going to be condemnations of zionism and of israel nothing else
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i saw just yesterday the the government of canada has signed a contract with the globe and mail
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to put in put on a conference and one of the things they're going to study the global mail is
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taking money to do this is to study anti-palestinian racism i didn't know palestinian was a race
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yeah i didn't know that either i didn't even know that i didn't even know that that uh canadians
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were able to distinguish between palestinian muslims and uh other muslims in canada
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they know instinctively and how would you know arabic is a language and arabs are an ethnicity
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but palestinian is none of those things it's not a language it's not a race it's not an ethnicity
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but it is an official thing and i know this because uh the government of canada is putting
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on a conference with the globe and mail to that effect i'll let you know how it goes because i've
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signed up hey you know i about 20 plus years ago maybe it was even longer
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sasha baron cohen who's a british comedian oh he's hilarious uh although his shtick is a little tired
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now he had a character called borat yes borat sagdiev who was from kazakhstan or one of the stands and um
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he he came to america and he would he would do cringy things and see how far he could go
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before he would throw he would he would sing a song in in a he'd go to a bar and start singing
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throw the jew down the well throw the jew down the well and pretty soon everybody would be like
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singing along with in that in that case they sing along in other cases like i like he would go he
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went to a very fancy dinner party and he did something unspeakable i won't even say what it is
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just he he would see how far he could go how how sexist he could be how racist he could be how
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anti-semitic he could be how vulgar um without the americans uh losing saying get out of my house
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yeah and and i just want to play i mean he um i remember a scene when he was talking about dating
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because he was extraordinarily sexist obviously this is a character he was playing and
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i think sasha baron cohen was doing this to mock americans to to show how simple and uh
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dull-witted they are but i think it had the opposite effect it made me think sasha baron cohen
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was dirty and big like listen i thought they were hilarious by the way but what it showed to me was the
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goodness the tolerance the patience of ordinary middle-class folks in america who instead of
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saying you bigot get the hell out of our country would sort of uh keep their straight face and
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explain to him why what he was doing wasn't the american way here's just a clip just to throw away
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example of what i mean let me come right back and explain the why i'm referring to borat in this
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conversation in us and a if you want to marry a girl you cannot just go to her father's house and
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swap her for 15 gallons of insecticide before american woman will allow you in her vagine you must do
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something called dating my name is jenny pleased to meet you hello jenna nice to to meet you thank you for
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coming in today to us see if great expectations is right for you yes what would you like to see
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happen if you met your ideal woman i will love her we will be as one so i will give her television remote
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control a red dress i hope will say you have a good life and back home you can provide for her a good
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life and that's what you'd like to do but if she cheated on me why you laugh i think that's sweet
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keep going but if she cheated on me i will crush her you will crush her well honey that's not going
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to qualify you with our membership if you're prepared to crush a woman you can break up with her and
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divorce her but you cannot no crushing i would i would say maybe 200 years earlier in the united kingdom
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they would have run that guy out of town but in in our modern age we're tolerant and welcoming
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and i think the borat effect is what we're seeing all these borats have come over racist sexist anti-gay
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anti-semitic outrageous and doing many other things that are un-canadian but we're too
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goofy friendly smiley tolerant passive um conflict diverse so we accept we've been trained up in
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multiculturalism like when you're told from the day you're born in this country that we are a welcoming
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country and we are a country of many cultures in fact when we don't even have a culture of our own
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because that we are a community of cultures and that every culture is the same or the same value
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has the same value they do things differently but that's diversity and diversity is our strength
00:32:15.680
so if you're if you are told that again and again and again and again you train yourself not to notice
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the differences that you find wait a minute that's whoa that's not um you know that's not uh
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proper or that's not right or that's not good that's not what i believe or that you know that's not what i
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was brought up to it's unkind it's like all of those things you're not allowed to judge if it's another
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culture because that's their culture uh so we are not just wanting to be nice we are wanting to be nice
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out of fear out of fear of uh crossing that red line of being ourselves racist or in this most cases
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is islamophobic or whatever it is because that's considered uh that's considered a kind of litmus test
00:33:15.280
for being a true canadian you are a multiculturalist and by the way 10 years ago it was
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european leaders were able to say you know what multiculturalism has been a failure angela
00:33:28.160
merkel said with you know the migrant situation she says multiculturalism has not been a success
00:33:34.320
and there were several there was a scandinavian leader a couple of other leaders said multiculturalism
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is is not what we thought it was going to be and it's not working but you can't say that now now you
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can't say that you know when i was watching um a black caribbean podcast i think it was called
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toronto tings uh and it was in a lovely caribbean accent and uh you know i i consume all sorts of media
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i'm not just uh as i was watching toronto tings and so these are this is the caribbean community
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talking about mass immigration and how it's destroying canada and i just so it's not just
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right-wing old stock canadians toronto tings was saying what are we doing and he he had a he started
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off with i'm not a racist you know don't jump on me but let's talk for 20 minutes about how insane
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this country has become i find that hopeful in its own way i um i believe that people from different
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backgrounds can come to be canadian i i don't believe it's a racial or a bloodline thing i think
00:34:46.480
there's a set of values i i'm a civic nationalist charles de gaulle perhaps the most chauvinist man
00:34:53.120
he was a perfect frenchman that way he was asked can a foreigner become french wow that's a good
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question to ask charles de gaulle and he said yes gradually and in small numbers yes because you
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have to inculcate you have to learn you have to learn the language the culture the history
00:35:15.760
once you allow so many people at the same time to come they're going to form and they do it's very
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natural i would too if i were didn't speak the language of the new country and i didn't understand
00:35:28.960
the customs i'd want to also be with people that i was familiar with but if you have whole communities
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and they're constantly reinforcing the old culture in the old country and they're not really making a
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serious attempt to integrate and nobody is even saying they have to and nobody says we want you here
00:35:49.680
but these are the rules these are our values and if you're going to become canadian these are the kind
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of values we're going to expect you to accommodate and to and to uh express and to rear your children
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in um and here they are so i believe in the assimilation model it worked for my grandparents i i i
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wasn't brought up speaking yiddish i don't mind um i think you you do immigrants should pay a price
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for moving to another country and one of the prices is that you you uh you adapt to the customs language
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values of the new country and you uh you learn the history of the new country and you you become a
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a productive member of that community you don't set yourself in opposition to it you don't say um
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we're here but we don't like your values in fact uh we're we're give us some time and we're going to
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make sure that you not only accommodate our ability our capacity to run our own communities the way we see
00:36:58.240
fit even if they don't adapt if they're not like your values we don't care um but we're going to make
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sure that that you also we you know in time it's our expressed wish uh that our values and our way
00:37:11.520
of life and our belief system dominate this country and that's what some of the leaders political
00:37:19.040
activists uh amongst these big crowds of people are saying very openly you see it you know certainly
00:37:26.800
in england and europe you have people screaming in the streets that's exactly what they want to do
00:37:31.520
yeah so and then you can't blame people for being frightened by it i'm frightened well i mean you're
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frightened and you're being frightened that's literally the greek uh phobia being frightened is
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now a crime you're phobic yeah hey let me close by showing you a clip this clip is probably the single
00:37:54.160
most viewed video that we have ever recorded now my walking scrum with albert pfizer of modern of uh
00:38:03.040
excuse me albert burla the ceo of pfizer when aviamini and i caught him on the streets of davos
00:38:09.360
that was seen about 40 million times but there is a video clip that i estimate has been seen
00:38:15.920
up to a hundred million times i encountered all the time on social media because it's clipped and bootlegged by
00:38:23.440
other people because it's so viral um most of the time our logo is sort of cropped out but you can
00:38:30.320
see it on the microphone flash it's our dear friend david the menzoid menzies encountering an immigrant
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to canada at the al-quds day anti-semitic festival that the government of iran would sponsor at queen's
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park every year and it's a man you you said we have to let people know the rules we have to let newcomers
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know the rules this man knew the rules and he went to a citizenship ceremony
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and he was silent when he was told to say an oath and here take a listen to him laugh at us saying
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it was up to you to make sure i said the oath and i didn't i have met several muslims
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who left islamic nations and have horror and are horrified and are horrified to see
00:39:22.080
those elements of those countries following them over to canada and the united states what would you
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say to them you know muslims that want to live a secular lifestyle go to your queen and tell her
00:39:33.200
to change the laws change the laws to what sir to sharia law no change the laws to not allow any more
00:39:39.280
muslims to come to canada like if you if you are bothered by muslims because we we owe our allegiance
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and our loyalty first and foremost to our religion not to the queen to be honest when i went for my
00:39:52.240
so-called oath i was silent i didn't say anything it was your responsibility to make sure you got it out
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of me so when i didn't say anything i'm not i'm not liable to any there we have it we're suckers um
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we're a high trust society they come from a low trust society they can't believe it i've encountered
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this one time myself in my life barbara i recently had the pleasure of a lifetime to visit japan which
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is an advanced civilization uh in just about every way i know they have their problems but when i went
00:40:22.320
there i felt like i was a barbarian and a brute and they are an extremely high trust society
00:40:30.080
they their crime rate is negligible i was there for two weeks i saw one homeless person the whole
00:40:38.720
time i saw one drunk person the whole time tokyo the world's largest city i don't think i heard a horn
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honk um the politeness the respect for others the um care taken not to embarrass others the cleanliness
00:40:57.200
um the safety uh it was an astonishing place and i loved it but i i know occasionally people go to
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japan because they take advantage of it there's some live streamers who go there to flick people in the
00:41:15.600
nose and punch people in the nose and steal they really oh that's terrible they absolutely do and they
00:41:20.560
live stream it because japan you think we're a high trust society here in canada japan that because
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it's like one big ethnic family they would never do that to each other so they trust anyone it's the
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it's like i mean do they lock their doors i'm sure some of them do but it is such a high trust society i
00:41:39.840
loved every minute of it and i love the people more than anything but not everyone who goes to a high
00:41:45.920
trust society says wow this is wonderful i'm going to enjoy it some people say this is a country of
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suckers uh i'm going to take advantage of them um boy i'm going to cut through this place like a hot
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knife through butter and we one of the things i love best about canada and the united states and
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the united kingdom and western europe is that we are a high trust society and it took us millennia
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to get that way it took us how many generations did it take to build up a level of trust where a
00:42:17.680
young woman can go to the bar get a little tipsy and then get a cab and have the cab take her home
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without the cab driver raping her and i know that sounds like a harsh and brutal and shocking thing to
00:42:28.400
say but you find out when suddenly like in the city of halifax you have a lot of syrian and other
00:42:36.320
foreign migrants now driving cabs that they don't take those drunk women home
00:42:40.400
they sexually assault them one after the other after the other after the other
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you find out that you'll slip back to medieval times you can it take it'll take you a million
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it'll take you a thousand years to build up a high trust society and it'll take you one generation to
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lose it on that unusual and sad note barbara i want to wrap up last word to you
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well this has been a kind of depressing conversation hasn't it it always is i'm sorry
00:43:07.200
when i talk to you it makes me makes me reflect on how bad things are i know there's good things out
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there too but i know well listen i think i i think i should end on the note that there's nothing wrong
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with immigration there's nothing wrong with legal immigration but there have to be standards for
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immigration and and as you say uh high trust societies are are based in the knowledge that
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the people you meet when you walk down the street if you smile at them they're going to smile back
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uh because you want to reinforce the idea that we are a community we're all pulling together for the
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same end um in order to inculcate that spirit uh people have to remember we used to take civics i think
00:43:51.040
people kids used to take civics lessons uh to understand how you're supposed to act
00:43:58.240
in a civil society and i would love to see um that kind of attitude and spirit come back and i think
00:44:06.400
that if enough of us spoke out about the necessity for that maybe we would see something like that
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happen but it won't be seen the only thing i'm going to disagree with you on is when you say immigration
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is not a problem i'm sure at some numbers it's not a problem no no as i say not not in not in these
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numbers right and not in um and not with this rapidity there's one million foreigners in this
00:44:31.200
country no no way too much way too much okay i'm glad we agree on that no no in principle it's good to
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have people we're going to have to our our fertility rate right now is 1.4 right that is extremely low and
00:44:44.320
it is not replacement level so uh unless we start having more babies um immigration is our future
00:44:52.640
so we have to make sure that the immigrants that do come uh that we have uh civics or we we have we
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we they that they have certain expectations and that there will be criteria to meet in terms of adapting
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uh to our culture we have to agree that we had we created a culture and as you say it took millennia
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um it's it's in danger so i think it's worth preserving there you have it barbara k one of
00:45:22.560
our favorite people and it's true whenever we talk i get myself all whipped up and uh and and
00:45:28.320
and pessimistic but you got to keep hope alive as uh john paul ii would say where there's life
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yes that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel
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world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom
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world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom