Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Barbara Kay remembers Rex Murphy, condemns Canada's Hamas encampments

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. A great chat with Barbara Kay today. We're going to reminisce a bit about

00:00:04.340 the late, great Rex Murphy, and then we're going to talk about some of these Hamas encampments

00:00:09.520 across the country and why they're being allowed to continue even if they break the law, including,

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00:00:41.200 We don't take any money from the government, and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:58.760 Tonight, a heart-to-heart conversation with Barbara Kay. We'll talk about Rex Murphy

00:01:07.120 and the Hamas encampments across the country. It's May 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:13.620 You've got it for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:28.760 So many things are going on around the world. So many things are going on across our country,

00:01:32.920 things we haven't seen before. There's one friend I trust on so many issues, very thoughtful. She's a

00:01:38.860 writer for the National Post. I'm so glad she has that forum. She also comes on our show with her

00:01:44.340 wisdom. You know who I'm talking about, our friend Barbara Kay, who joins us now via Skype. Barbara,

00:01:48.820 great to see you again. I've been meaning to catch up with you on so much that's happening.

00:01:53.080 But first, before we get into the news, let's talk just for a minute about our mutual friend,

00:01:58.500 Rex Murphy, who passed away a few days ago. Share with us your thoughts on Rex and his passing.

00:02:05.340 Well, I, like most, well, I shouldn't say all, but most journalists, I recognize Rex as a sort of a

00:02:13.820 colossus over the years of Canadian journalism. He's done every medium. He owned Cross-Country Checkup.

00:02:22.480 That was a show that attracted upwards of 350,000 viewers, or listeners, rather. And he would get

00:02:31.320 the numbers like nobody in CBC's history. And, you know, when you look at the numbers they're

00:02:36.620 getting today, which is kind of pathetic, it just shows you what could be and what was wonderful 0.59

00:02:45.760 programming. And that really was very, he was a very unifying force because he cared deeply about

00:02:51.860 Canada. He came from Newfoundland. He brought a very different perspective from most of our

00:02:58.260 Laurentian elites and most of the journalists who were kind of grew up in Ontario or Quebec or wherever,

00:03:04.760 even on the prairies. I just thought, this is a guy who really cared about people. He really listened.

00:03:12.340 He was really open to everybody's point of view. He respected people and they respected him. They

00:03:19.140 loved him. He was a great speaker. He could speak on any topic and did to any number of people,

00:03:26.000 groups. He could speak to kings and he could speak to plumbers. And he gave both the same respect and the

00:03:32.160 same, you know, he just wanted to share. He wanted to hear from them. And anyways, and his erudition,

00:03:42.340 he, the, on my tribute this morning, the National Post, they gave it the headline,

00:03:47.060 the people's intellectual. So I like that heading.

00:03:51.120 That's exactly right. And I, I didn't forget about his role at cross-country checkup and I'm just

00:03:57.860 thinking about it now. And what I recall from that is how subordinate he made himself.

00:04:06.380 He wanted to pull out of people from across the country, their stories, and he let them go on

00:04:11.900 quite long, longer than a normal talk radio show. And maybe you could tell a little bit where he stood,

00:04:18.900 but it, he, he was the servant on that show. He wasn't the pontificator. He was surely smarter than 90%

00:04:27.640 of the people he talked to, but he had a respect for their humanity and their experience.

00:04:33.840 And it was a cross-country checkup. He did check in with the whole country. And in that way,

00:04:39.480 I think he showed a love for the far-flung regions that maybe someone born and raised in Toronto or

00:04:44.300 Montreal might not so naturally do. I think that's part of his Newfoundland roots. And you're right

00:04:50.180 about his erudition. He, uh, he was an editor of a dictionary and it shows, it shows what we missed.

00:04:58.040 I think it was you. Somebody told me, a friend of mine said, Ezra Levent once visited Rex's house

00:05:04.040 and said he'd never seen such a collection of dictionaries. Was that you? You'd never saw it?

00:05:09.740 I did. I did visit the house and he had the full Oxford English dictionary, the expanded version,

00:05:14.680 which I think was like 20 volumes. It's been a while. I don't remember. And we were a little bit

00:05:19.840 nerdy. So we tried to stump each other with words that the other guy wouldn't know. And I actually

00:05:25.240 got him, which shocked me. Maybe he was just letting me win. The word was in infandus. And the fact

00:05:33.020 that I've never heard that word. I have never. Apparently Rex, I don't believe that Rex didn't

00:05:36.600 hear it. And I think he was just trying to let me feel better about myself. I don't think so,

00:05:41.700 because I have a pretty good vocabulary and that is a word. I-N-F-A-N-D-O-U-S. Yeah. It's very 0.98

00:05:48.480 similar to infamous. And yeah, I shouldn't be talking about that word in fantasy. It's just

00:05:53.060 the only time I managed to know a word that Rex didn't. I mean, the man was a Rhodes scholar. He

00:05:58.460 knew his Shakespeare better than anyone else. But as you alluded to, he wasn't a snob. He wasn't

00:06:08.240 elitist. He was elite by every measure of the word, but he was not an elitist. He saw the wisdom

00:06:14.840 in ordinary people. It was like Kipling's poem, If. As you mentioned before, he could talk with kings

00:06:20.600 or with paupers. And, um, and, uh, I don't, I can't, Rex would know that whole poem by heart,

00:06:27.540 but. Of course he would. And he, and he, he would, he, he, he could speak anywhere without notes,

00:06:33.420 without, with complete fluency. Uh, another, a friend of mine told me that, uh, he was asked at

00:06:38.920 the very last minute after October 7th, uh, the, the rally in Ottawa was supposed to be addressed by,

00:06:44.760 I think somebody from the IDF, they couldn't make it. And they asked Rex, he stepped in and ex

00:06:50.680 tempera, she said, gave the greatest speech. Uh, that was just incredible. And, and that reminds me

00:06:59.420 that on his literal deathbed, his last two columns about the October 7th pogrom and the horrible

00:07:06.940 aftermath of it, uh, and the Trudeau government's failure to address the, the, what was

00:07:14.600 happening, the rise in antisemitism with honor or, or, uh, you know, really even reason, uh, was

00:07:23.940 shaming for Canada. And he, his passion was undiminished, uh, and it was within days of him

00:07:30.340 dying. In fact, um, the last, uh, the last, uh, um, communication that the editor at the National

00:07:38.220 Post had with him was when Rex wanted to make sure he said, did you get my column? Is it going in?

00:07:43.500 Wow. Um, and that was the last communication they had.

00:07:48.060 You know, I was just looking down my phone for a second. I wanted to read just one line from

00:07:52.180 Kipling's if, because this really is Rex. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue

00:08:01.200 or walk with Kings, nor lose the common touch. If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,

00:08:09.800 if all men count with you, but none too much. If you can fill the unforgiving minute with 60 seconds

00:08:16.620 worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it. And what is more,

00:08:20.700 you'll be a man, my son. What a great poem by Kipling. And of course, Rex would have known that

00:08:26.640 by memory.

00:08:27.360 He'd have known it. And that, that was Rex.

00:08:29.900 Yeah. Well, uh, we miss him, but I was thinking about him on the weekend. We had a Rebel News live

00:08:34.280 event and we, we played a montage and I, and I thought, how do you replace a giant like that?

00:08:41.060 Well, part of the answer is he wasn't born a giant. He was born a baby and became a man and he grew

00:08:46.960 into the Colossus that you described. Um, I mean, he was still great 10 years ago and 20 years ago and

00:08:53.380 30 years ago, but he only turned into the man he is over time. And the replacement for Rex,

00:08:59.220 the successor to Rex doesn't appear like a, like a snap. It, it grows over time. And I think everyone

00:09:06.800 has to climb the next rung on the ladder. All of us have to grow one more rung, one more tree ring.

00:09:15.300 And, you know, he, he really was a unique person, but I think all of us can, can step up and, and

00:09:22.980 take some of the burden and continue the mission he did.

00:09:26.200 Well, he's certainly an inspiration. I hope that young journalists, uh, that his passing will be

00:09:32.140 an occasion for young journalists to take an interest in his work, to look back at some of

00:09:36.840 his columns and his, his, his radio work and, and, and, and reflect on the qualities that made him,

00:09:44.860 uh, gladden the hearts of Canadians and make them proud to be Canadian along with him. Uh, so I hope

00:09:53.540 that, uh, his legacy will be an inspiration for young journalists coming up.

00:09:58.680 I don't, we've, we've been speaking so highly of the man. I don't want to, um, bring a note of

00:10:03.560 negativity, but you will remember that a few years ago when Rex wrote a piece about how Canada is the

00:10:12.860 least racist country you can imagine, we're inherently not racist. In fact, it's very Canadian

00:10:18.920 us to be multicultural and to bend over backwards and to learn about different cultures. And, and he

00:10:24.860 didn't say there was no acts of racism in the country. That would be impossible. Canada's full

00:10:29.360 of men and women, not angels, but how the country in its bones was not racist. It was a beautiful

00:10:34.840 pro-Canadian article. And yet there was a petition in the National Post newsroom signed by a majority of

00:10:44.540 writers who felt comfortable using their names. It wasn't anonymous who not only demanded that he be

00:10:52.380 rebuked, but demanded that he no longer be allowed to write about subjects of race. And it was, and they

00:10:58.880 actually had a town hall meeting at the National Post about it, like a grievance, like a struggle

00:11:05.180 session. And the National Post did not give in. Of course, of course they didn't fire their star

00:11:11.540 writer. In fact, some of those agitators behind that petition have been gently moved on to other

00:11:17.180 places. But right now there is a red guard amongst young journalists. Struggle sessions, condemnations,

00:11:28.400 tearing down. It really is a kind of cultural revolution. So I don't mean to be pessimistic,

00:11:33.500 but Rex was targeted even by his colleagues, which is astonishing to me. It's a sign of the times.

00:11:43.080 Well, I guess I was a little astonished that that happened at the National Post, but yes,

00:11:49.000 they went through a kind of turbulent period. It was during a union drive. And actually that was,

00:11:54.680 wasn't somewhere in that mix. I left for a while because it was threatening, threatening to get out

00:12:00.660 of control. Fortunately, they got it under control, very well under control. So there has been none of

00:12:06.840 that since then. But yeah, they, they, Rex stood for something they didn't like at all. And I mean,

00:12:15.020 look, he was a classic liberal. He didn't change his whole life. He was believed in judge the individual,

00:12:20.940 don't judge by a group. He was very much against the Marxist template that these young people have

00:12:28.340 grown up in. And so he had, he didn't change, but that's why he had to leave the CBC. It's why he

00:12:34.880 had to leave the Globe and Mail because he didn't change, but everybody around him kept changing. So

00:12:40.060 yeah. No, I'm, I wasn't trying to disparage the National Post there. I was sort of making the point

00:12:46.020 even in the National Post. Even in the National Post, there was turbulence. It's true.

00:12:51.040 Unfortunately, the right, the right balance came back. Yeah. Well, it's just incredible. All

00:13:00.520 right. Well, let's talk about, anyhow, I'm glad we talked about Rex and, and hopefully we can all

00:13:05.800 become a little bit more like he was. Let's talk about the news, especially in your city of Montreal.

00:13:11.080 Today, our reporter, Alexa Lavoie is out there. There are court orders to remove some of these 0.93

00:13:17.580 Hamas encampments. I call them Mein Kampf. I like that. A pun on Mein Kampf. If only it were funny. 1.00

00:13:26.720 You have absolute Jew hatred, antisemitism, that if it were a KKK camp, if it was an, if it were white 0.98

00:13:36.800 people wearing white Klan hoods, screaming about blacks, go back to Africa, which is the analog 0.98

00:13:43.180 of Jews get out or whatever they're saying, the condemnation would be uniform, complete, instant, 0.99

00:13:53.140 and passionate. But shockingly, when it's about Jews, these encampments have gone on for weeks.

00:14:02.240 And I should tell you that the police, when our reporter, Alexa Lavoie presented today,

00:14:08.460 the police moved her away. She was going to use a drone camera. The police said, you do that, 1.00

00:14:13.760 we'll find you a thousand dollars. Meanwhile, the Hamas drone was literally buzzing Alexa so much,

00:14:19.300 she could grab it out of the sky. And the police did not like just, these are just little examples

00:14:23.980 of authority. You would think that the university authorities would act. You would think that campus

00:14:29.740 security would act. You would think that the police would act. You would think that with a court

00:14:33.740 injunction, there would be action. But, but from the entire establishment, police, politicians,

00:14:41.440 the press, professors, it's just, this is acceptable now. This is the new normal. I find that astonishing.

00:14:49.740 Yeah. I saw a phrase in a book review earlier today, and it was called the normalization of

00:14:56.680 deviance. And this is what is happening on these encampments. The police, obviously they're acting

00:15:04.440 according to orders that they're getting from above. They, they have to answer to the mayor.

00:15:12.720 Well, actually they don't answer to the mayor so much. She says she can't answer. She can't answer

00:15:17.340 for them. She allows them total freedom. So that would, the top of law enforcement in Montreal

00:15:22.640 has decided on this policy of, of going very easy. Uh, it's a big mistake. I wish they would have

00:15:28.680 taken their cue from what happened in Alberta. Uh, I watched your coverage of, um, was it Edmonton or,

00:15:37.820 or University of Alberta? Calgary. We had our, our reporter, Sidney Fouzard was in Calgary and I think

00:15:43.760 he did a great job and he was on his own there. He, he, he didn't want to get too close cause he's,

00:15:47.640 uh, his knee was injured and he, he wanted to be able to, uh, I mean, and these guys have no

00:15:53.260 compunction about being physical. Like they, they will do what they're inspired by Hamas. 0.99

00:15:58.400 They say resistance. They say, one of their slogans is you don't get to change to determine the way

00:16:04.800 we resist, which is their way of saying we'll be violent if we want to. It's a stone.

00:16:09.480 Yeah. On your property, on somebody else's property. Uh, no, they, they, uh, they tried to

00:16:15.360 resist. Uh, I thought the police were effective. They kept their cool. They were very calm. They

00:16:20.900 didn't strong arm anybody. They didn't get violent. No need to get violent. They sort of just formed a

00:16:27.080 line and kept pushing with the shields, uh, back and back and back until they got, uh, I should,

00:16:33.860 I was going to say the students, but I think probably half of them are not students. They're

00:16:37.640 outside agitators. Uh, they got them out and, um, uh, naturally they got a letter of protest.

00:16:44.280 I think the NCCM, uh, was right in there saying, no, no, this is, you know, the police, uh, overstepped

00:16:49.920 and, and so there's going to be an investigation, but I think they'll survive that because they did

00:16:54.620 their job properly. But the, the point is, you, you know, if you keep trying to talk or to argue

00:17:00.820 with these people, they're, they're, they're not going to negotiate. They're not acting in good

00:17:06.260 faith. They're acting in bad faith. And, and, and you're absolutely right. If this was any other

00:17:10.700 minority group, um, they wouldn't even have been able to set up those tents in the first place.

00:17:16.280 It's only, only, uh, they'll say it's Zionists, but it's Jews. They, you know, and we already saw 1.00

00:17:24.380 last week when a, uh, a Jewish professor with an Israeli accent was not allowed access to his office.

00:17:30.880 Um, and they just wouldn't let him pass. And he knew it was because he had an Israeli accent. So,

00:17:37.740 uh, this, this, uh, this, uh, negligence of in authority, uh, it's very, they're playing with

00:17:47.560 fire. They really are because they're, they're pretty well giving, um, permission to trespass,

00:17:56.000 to keep trespassing and to keep upping the ante. They're, they're setting the terms and, uh, the

00:18:03.020 authorities are, are, are letting them. It's such a huge mistake. As you said at the beginning, you

00:18:08.760 know, you, you give an inch, they'll, they'll take a mile in the end. You, you gotta end these

00:18:13.740 things very soon or they fester and they get worse. We'll see. Yeah. I have some friends who say,

00:18:20.280 um, for example, they, they, they saw the other day, um, when Hamas supporters were blocking highways,

00:18:26.420 uh, Chicago's airport, uh, New York airport. More recently, they were blocking a highway in Florida

00:18:32.520 that was shut down very quickly. Um, very inconveniencing things like they shut down a

00:18:39.180 major highway in Toronto briefly a few weeks ago. And I see people say, oh, that's not persuading

00:18:46.720 anybody. You're not winning hearts and minds. That's not what this is about. This is about

00:18:52.440 exerting dominance, showing who the new boss is, moving the Overton window and letting you know

00:18:59.620 that the country you lived in your whole life is not the country you're in now. And the rules that

00:19:05.700 you thought were in place are different now. And who you thought the police listened to and the

00:19:10.020 politics, it's different now. And they're actually like a child looking for a boundary. How far can I

00:19:17.980 go? And in Calgary and Edmonton, they have found that limit, but so far they have not found that

00:19:23.540 limit in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal. And I, I don't think they ever will because, um,

00:19:31.380 show me a political leader of any power who has said a word against it. So me, show other than the

00:19:38.020 National Post and the Toronto Sun and independent media like Rebel News, show me a major, show me a

00:19:43.980 major French-speaking newspaper that has come out fully against this. Um, and so the Hamas side, 0.97

00:19:52.280 which is buttressed by Antifa and hard left-wing activists, um, they are not trying to persuade.

00:19:59.960 They're trying to teach. They're trying to teach you who the new masters are. They're trying to

00:20:04.500 demoralize people like you and me and Jewish students and pro-Canadian, pro-American, 0.62

00:20:10.400 pro-Western students. They're trying to exhilarate and encourage their tribe and demoralize the rest

00:20:17.360 of us. And they are absolutely succeeding. And they're retraining the police, aren't they?

00:20:22.780 I think, I think so. I'll, I just wanted to say, by the way, there are independent,

00:20:28.480 not independent, there are writers, for example, the Journal de Montréal and even at La Presse, uh,

00:20:34.900 and on radio shows who, uh, are not, do not fall into line with that pro-Hamas thing. They are,

00:20:43.960 there are, uh, anti-Hamas and anti, uh, that are, you know, very much standing up for Jews and Zionists

00:20:54.820 and, uh...

00:20:55.900 Well, just, and Canadians. I mean, I'm a Jew and you're a Jew, so we have a tendency to speak from

00:21:00.720 that identity. But I, I would have to hope that I would be just as mad if it was the Klan versus 0.56

00:21:07.560 black kids. I see this as an anti-Canada thing as much as an anti-Jewish thing. 0.95

00:21:13.540 We do. It's anti-democracy. It's anti-West. It's anti-West. And they, and they won't stop.

00:21:18.900 Because they, they also say, death to America, and not at McGill, I don't think. But, you know,

00:21:23.680 in the States, we've seen them chanting death to the West and death to America. They, they,

00:21:29.900 you know, it's kind of interesting. Have you noticed that, that they're now enacting,

00:21:34.860 uh, at some universities. They're, they're, they're, uh, doing Muslim prayers, like, you

00:21:40.400 know, bending down and bowing down. And, um, some of the women are putting on hijabs and 0.98

00:21:45.460 stuff. They're not converting to Islam, but they are indicating that their support is so

00:21:51.260 great for Hamas that they actually are cosplaying, um, Islamic customs and, you know, you know, just 0.91

00:22:00.120 really a poke in the eye to the West. It's, it's, it's just part of the revolutionary,

00:22:05.600 um, uh, activity that just shows how mindless and crazy they are because.

00:22:14.280 I visited Columbia, uh, a couple of times. And when I went into Columbia and I saw that in the tents,

00:22:22.320 I saw a lot of trans activists were there. And of course they are, Barbara, not because they think

00:22:30.740 Gaza is hospitable to trans. They don't even think about that. They just know what they believe in,

00:22:36.460 which is tearing things down, demolishing the patriarchy, smashing America. And I'm, I'm mad at

00:22:43.520 you, dad, or whatever. I mean, if, if you're the kind of person who is, uh, who, who is part of the

00:22:50.460 trans political trajectory, of course you're going to be with the revolutionaries. So you're bundling

00:22:58.300 up all the revolution. Why is Greta Thunberg, uh, at, at one of the encampments, she was arrested

00:23:03.900 there the other day. Do you think she knew she could find Gaza on a map? No, she couldn't.

00:23:09.320 She knows just as little about, um, Gaza. She knows less about Gaza than she knew about global warming

00:23:15.460 science, but it's the pointy edge of the spear for the global revolution now. So you, so this is

00:23:22.400 bringing together a coalition of all the revolutionaries and that's what it is. And, and,

00:23:30.260 and the cult, like you, you talked about a behavior of non-Muslims participating in Muslim prayers.

00:23:36.580 They're, they want to belong. They want to behave and belong together. I saw that in, at the

00:23:42.560 Fashion Institute of Technology, some girls were waving flags. I said, what flags are those girls? 1.00

00:23:48.160 Oh, they're Palestinian. No, they weren't, but they don't even know any, they don't know anything 1.00

00:23:51.660 about anything other than this is the time and the place. This is the, the summer of love,

00:23:56.680 the summer of hate, whatever you want to call it. This is their 1968. This is their Woodstock.

00:24:01.840 This is their moment. And damn it, they're going to be there. And I never much liked the Jews anyways. 1.00

00:24:05.740 And they're too powerful. Well, they're, they're, they're oppressor class. They have privilege. So 1.00

00:24:11.200 it's okay. That's the context that the university presidents were talking about. Is it okay to call

00:24:18.780 for the genocide of Jews? Well, you have to look at the context around it. They would never say that

00:24:24.500 about any other minority. But it's with Jews, it's always context. What context would that be that

00:24:32.660 it's okay to call for the genocide of them? You know, well, if it's, if it's Zionism, you know, 0.89

00:24:38.880 then. Let me ask you this, because I saw one of your columns was about Jewish law firms. I mean,

00:24:47.680 I don't know if there's any law firms that are just Jews, but there are law firms where there's

00:24:50.920 a lot of Jewish lawyers. Or they're led by, or the partners are Jewish. Right. And, and some of them 0.86

00:24:56.820 are saying, look, if you're part of these anti-Semitic encampments, we, we just don't want to hire

00:25:01.540 you. And I, there was a little bit of that in the U S as well. And I think that scared a few of

00:25:06.840 these folks who had their big dreams of going to huge, well-paying law firms. And they realized that

00:25:14.080 what plays well with their, you know, classmates might not sit as well at a big law firm. But I,

00:25:23.480 I don't know how, I don't know how terrifying that is anymore because there are increasingly

00:25:31.640 businesses and lawyers and law firms, like, like the owner of Paramount Foods, just forgot his name

00:25:39.580 off the top of my head. He's a senior advisor for Justin Trudeau. He said, I don't want any Zionist 1.00

00:25:44.900 money in my restaurants. And, and he's also said, he said, I'll pay your legal bills. I'll hire you.

00:25:50.740 Like, um, he's not a major industrialist, but there are enough places. I think that you can come

00:26:00.860 out full anti-Semitic, full pro Hamas. And yeah, you might not go to work for a really, really Jewish 0.99

00:26:07.680 law firm, but there are enough places where you will succeed. And I look over to the United Kingdom

00:26:13.600 as a time machine, what we're going to look like in five years. And they're absolutely, I'd say the

00:26:20.160 anti-Semitic firms, the anti-Semitic businesses that outnumber those that are tolerant. And we see

00:26:28.700 candidates winning local office, like, like city councilor positions who are running on a full

00:26:35.980 pro Gaza platform. Like they're not even talking about local issues. I think that with the demographic

00:26:42.500 changes being fed by out of control immigration, and with no moral leadership at the top, this country 0.90

00:26:49.580 will become effectively a parallel country. Sure, you can be polite company and not say anything bad

00:26:57.100 about the Jews and operate over there. But you can go full tilt anti-Semitic and still get a great job 0.86

00:27:03.200 and a law firm and be on TV and run for public office. And maybe you'll become the mayor of London

00:27:10.820 one day. Maybe you'll look at Malmo, Sweden, where the Eurovision contest had 50% Islamic. The Israeli 1.00

00:27:21.820 singer there needed 100 police to escort her to this to the stage. There were thousands of people there 1.00

00:27:30.860 who would have killed her and ripped her limb from limb. And that is, yeah, that is true. But 0.62

00:27:36.840 on the upside, when the people voted, she actually came into second place. Well, it was interesting

00:27:43.660 because the juries that there's the two sides, I don't watch Eurovision. So I, but I understand

00:27:48.200 there's the juries, the juries are made up of appointed whoever they are. But the people, anybody can vote.

00:27:57.880 And it's, it's seen by something crazy, like 163 million people. And the votes came in from all

00:28:06.240 these countries like Ireland and all these other, Norway, all these countries that are officially

00:28:10.800 quite anti-Israel, quite anti-Israel and a lot of anti-Semitism amongst the, you know, the university

00:28:18.820 crowd and even politically. But overwhelmingly, the popular vote was with her. I mean, the Swiss 1.00

00:28:27.800 person who won apparently deserved to win, but, uh, the popular vote was for her and by millions like

00:28:34.580 so, or hundreds of thousands, uh, which shows you that the, the, the, uh, it's unfortunate that it's

00:28:42.560 topped down. As you say, there are plenty of people in politics and in business who are very supportive

00:28:49.480 of, of, of the whole pro-Palestinian, um, movement. Uh, but I think ordinary people, the silent

00:28:57.460 majority, they're, they're not so crazy about this rabid anti, anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism that

00:29:04.720 doesn't, it's not a help in the sense that they can't do much about it, but it does show you that

00:29:11.560 it's, it's, uh, it's very much coming. The movement is very much ideologues, their followers,

00:29:17.880 uh, and although it makes the news, uh, and, and sucks up a lot of airtime, um, it, it, and it gives

00:29:26.300 you the impression that entire countries are, you know, against Jews. Uh, it's not the case. It's just

00:29:34.060 very organized at the top. Well, in some places, I've been to Malmo. I spent a full day in the

00:29:41.560 neighborhood called Rosengard. I had security with them. I saw one Swedish face the entire day. 1.00

00:29:47.420 And I talked to young men who were born in Sweden, but their entire lives was a, was a surreal

00:29:55.240 life. They wanted liquor banned. They wanted homosexuality banned. They told me this. Um,

00:30:02.040 absolutely they believed in polygamy. These were not people who em, immigrated to Sweden and just

00:30:07.740 hadn't been accultured. These were people born in Sweden who, I mean, I don't, just like Istanbul

00:30:15.880 used to be called Constantinople, the largest Christian city in the world. It's not the largest

00:30:21.800 Christian city in the world today. It's called Istanbul. And the Hagia Sophia was turned into a

00:30:26.560 mosque. And I don't think the city of Malmo, Sweden will be called Malmo forever. It wouldn't

00:30:34.820 surprise me if in my lifetime it's renamed. And I don't know. I, I think that we are in deep trouble.

00:30:45.020 I think the first thing to do is to hit pause on immigration because we are bringing in people 1.00

00:30:54.000 from places where antisemitism is endemic. We don't test for that when we bring people over.

00:31:00.220 And unfortunately, some of the institutions that welcome newcomers are happy with antisemitism,

00:31:07.400 universities being the most obvious one. Or indifferent. I wouldn't say that our government,

00:31:12.020 everybody in the government is antisemitic themselves. I think it's almost like a matter

00:31:16.680 of indifference. They just think that immigration is a good thing. Uh, that, uh, that it's, it's

00:31:23.900 Islamophobic even to consider, uh, what people believe about, you know, Jews to, to, to, that would

00:31:32.300 be like sort of a purity test for them or whatever. Uh, they, they have a naive belief that once they've

00:31:38.060 come into Canada, that they'll somehow become Canadian and all pluralistic and everything. Um, they

00:31:44.900 are, they are, they are indifferent to, uh, reality in fact. And this, uh, we have a prime minister who

00:31:54.260 is eager. Uh, he's the only, I think he's the only political head of state in the world that is

00:32:00.600 actually eager to bring in thousands and thousands of Palestinians from Gaza. Uh, even though the polls

00:32:07.240 show that they are largely supportive of Hamas. So, uh, he never asks himself, why are all these Muslim 0.99

00:32:16.060 countries in the Middle East and beyond, why are none of them receptive to the idea of, you know,

00:32:23.240 giving shelter and refugee space to these, to these Palestinians? He doesn't know anything about history 1.00

00:32:31.100 and he doesn't care about history. Uh, he's, he's, uh, very incurious, um, about foreign affairs in

00:32:39.540 general and the Middle East in particular. And so to him, these are just people in need of, you know,

00:32:46.340 and he's going to be their white savior. Um, so it'll have to be a new government. And by that time, 0.85

00:32:52.520 we'll just have, I don't know how many more from hotspots in which antisemitism is the norm,

00:32:58.580 but, uh, maybe the damage is already done because you don't need a million Jew haters to, 0.90

00:33:05.940 to actually make, uh, Canada a very unpleasant place for Jews. You just need, you know, you only 1.00

00:33:13.000 need 1% of the population that is culturally, uh, that, that in whose culture antisemitism is the norm.

00:33:24.040 You only need 1% of them to actually take action. Um, and, and then it gets very unpleasant for all

00:33:30.800 Jews. You know, I'm, I, I studied the phenomenon of broken windows policing in New York. James

00:33:38.200 Q. Wilson's theory, Rudy Giuliani implemented it. Um, I've talked about it on the show before. He would,

00:33:43.900 uh, arrest people for very minor offenses, jaywalking, littering, just to stop those things,

00:33:50.420 send a message and also to nab larger criminals when they did smaller things. But the main theory

00:33:56.060 was to turn off the signal that a broken window or graffiti sent to the city, which is no one's

00:34:03.320 paying attention. No one cares. No one's going to enforce things. We accept this now. This is a

00:34:10.040 dangerous place. A broken window sends messages. And so by fixing the broken windows, by covering up the

00:34:17.760 graffiti, you, you send a message that no, we don't allow this. One of the things I learned

00:34:23.140 is that when they were cracking down on gangs and criminals in parts of New York, often it was just

00:34:30.220 one or two thugs who would terrorize an entire city block. Maybe a thousand people would live in fear

00:34:39.080 because there was a couple of bad dudes and everyone was inside and everyone had barred windows

00:34:45.180 just from a couple of dudes. And you take them away and people started coming outside and living

00:34:50.120 on the street and reclaiming the space that had been conceded. And I think that that's one of the

00:34:56.620 things going on. I don't think that there are a million Hamas supporters in Canada. I think,

00:35:03.760 in fact, if you look at the numbers who were finally cleared from University of Calgary,

00:35:06.760 University of Alberta, it was in, maybe it was a hundred or not even much more than that.

00:35:11.600 But that's enough to feed a thousand images on social media. That's enough to change policing

00:35:19.200 and send a message. And when you have 700 paid agents by Iran running around fomenting things,

00:35:26.460 you can feel surrounded. I think we are demographically in danger. But I think also,

00:35:32.220 if we took a broken windows of policing approach and just snuffed out this trespass,

00:35:37.180 vandalism and anti-Semitism in the first bud, I think Canada would be...

00:35:42.480 Yeah, well, I mean, look, if you wanted to go back, October 7th was the capstone on years and

00:35:49.660 years of ignoring anti-Semitism. Look, Al-Quds Day, how many times did Rebel News cover

00:35:57.140 violently anti-Semitic language in those marches by imams, sometimes in Arabic, sometimes in English?

00:36:08.440 They knew what the cutoff was before they would get arrested. So they avoided certain things. But

00:36:13.440 when they would speak in Arabic, very often they would be saying real hate speech. And none of them

00:36:20.000 were ever arrested. Nobody was ever arrested. And there's your broken window.

00:36:23.540 So they set the stage and they, and the government made it clear, law enforcement made it clear,

00:36:32.020 you know, keep it in the street, keep it, keep it to your own followers. We won't interfere,

00:36:38.720 because we don't, we don't want to be called racist. So we go back years and years and years,

00:36:43.380 and we would see how this all began. Also, Students for Justice in Palestine,

00:36:49.460 Sandby Dune, all these, all these organizations that have been either linked to funding of terrorism,

00:36:56.400 or one way or another to the Muslim Brotherhood. Nobody ever took the Muslim Brotherhood seriously. 0.77

00:37:01.540 The Muslim Brotherhood is a worldwide organization that Arab countries do not want operating in their 1.00

00:37:07.380 states, because they know how disruptive and how apocalyptic it is. They have an agenda that is

00:37:15.100 actually extremely anti-Western, and with an endgame of actually conquering the West and replacing.

00:37:28.920 This has been completely ignored for so many years, because nobody wanted to bell that cat. You know,

00:37:35.660 it's, it was, they were so afraid of being called racist. But, you know, it's funny. I mean,

00:37:41.880 the government that won't assert rules against trespassing or assault, now wants to bring in C63 0.82

00:37:48.460 hate speech. I can tell you, they're not going to use hate speech rules against people that they won't

00:37:53.580 even use assault rules against, or, or death threats. The hate speech rules will be for you and me,

00:37:59.760 I can assure you that. I know. Barbara, it's great to catch up with you. Keep up the fight in the National

00:38:04.520 Post. Part of the burden of Rex's passing falls to you to keep up his ideas. And I know that you'll

00:38:11.320 execute that duty. And all of us will try a little bit to do so as well. Thanks for spending so much

00:38:16.940 time with us today. Pleasure, as always, Ezra. Thank you. That's our pleasure, too. There you have it.

00:38:21.360 Barbara Kay, columnist for the National Post. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:38:34.520 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. This is about Sid Fazard's coverage

00:38:40.620 of the Calgary police versus the Hamas encampment. Brenda Stabileski says,

00:38:47.280 student unions need to be held accountable and given the bills for cleanup and cost of police.

00:38:52.240 Students should be expelled and deported, if not Canadian citizens. You know, I agree with that. 1.00

00:38:57.100 It's like if someone is in your house and is saying outrageous and racist things. If they're

00:39:03.320 your son or daughter, you know, they live there, you got to put up with it and try and correct them.

00:39:07.800 But if they're a foreign guest, just at your pleasure in your house, kick them out. My view 1.00

00:39:13.580 would be the same for these encampments. If someone is a Canadian citizen, listen, use your free speech.

00:39:19.660 If you're a Canadian citizen breaking the law, you should be charged. But if you're a foreign national 1.00

00:39:24.920 here on a student visa purportedly to learn and get an education, but instead you're doing this,

00:39:31.300 deport. Kathy Ray says, not sure anyone noticed as they were clearing protesters, the protesters had

00:39:39.540 the choices of leaving east, west, and south. Most chose to walk back to taunt police and then act

00:39:45.740 like they were unjustly attacked. Make a wrong choice, pay the consequences. You know, it's incredible

00:39:52.440 how long the police waited before doing anything. And of course, they're waiting even longer at

00:39:58.640 University of Toronto, McGill and other places. And these are protests on private property. These

00:40:04.640 are protests governed by other rules besides just the law, rules of a university. And it's just

00:40:10.800 incredible to me that the police in places like Montreal abide lawbreaking, not just noisy protests,

00:40:19.880 but outright lawbreaking for weeks or months. Compare that to the brutal crackdown on peaceful

00:40:25.520 truckers who did nothing more than honk their horns or maybe had to view parking violations.

00:40:31.900 That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:40:36.760 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - May 14, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Barbara Kay remembers Rex Murphy, condemns Canada's Hamas encampments

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