Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Bill Gates talks about playing “germ games”. Do you trust him？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. There's a new interview featuring Bill Gates out there.

00:00:05.400 He said so many interesting things, including a really candid admission that vaccines simply don't work.

00:00:11.940 It's quite something to hear him say it, because if you or I say it, we could be banned from social media.

00:00:16.560 You've got to listen to that part of it.

00:00:18.660 He says some really weird things, but he talks about what he calls germ games

00:00:22.780 and how he's really worried about a smallpox attack,

00:00:26.120 which is weird, because smallpox was eradicated, I don't know, 40 years ago.

00:00:31.280 But what could he possibly mean?

00:00:32.900 They're not making that in a lab, are they?

00:00:36.640 I mean, are they?

00:00:38.760 I'll show you what I know and what Bill Gates says.

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00:00:52.380 For example, I'm going to take you through a research paper on smallpox and horsepox

00:00:57.880 done at the University of Alberta, published three years ago,

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00:01:12.120 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:01:13.240 Tonight, Bill Gates talks about playing germ games.

00:01:33.520 Do you trust him?

00:01:34.780 It's November 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:37.560 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:43.440 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:47.520 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:01:51.040 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:58.400 I'd like to play a three-minute interview for you.

00:02:01.600 Jeremy Hunt, a British MP, talks to Bill Gates.

00:02:06.800 You know, Bill Gates, the close friend of the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein,

00:02:11.200 who is arguably the world's most obsessed promoter of vaccines.

00:02:15.620 That, Bill Gates.

00:02:17.000 There's a lot in these next three minutes.

00:02:20.160 Gates talks about germ games.

00:02:22.600 I think he means that like war games, where armies train for war with simulations,

00:02:27.680 but he's talking about viruses.

00:02:29.840 I think most people, other than the media party,

00:02:34.120 have concluded that the virus from Wuhan likely came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:02:41.600 I mean, when even liberal party, liberal stenographer John Stewart can't fake it anymore on that one.

00:02:49.620 Well, if there's evidence, I'd love to hear it.

00:02:52.560 I just don't know.

00:02:53.260 There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China.

00:02:58.260 What do we do?

00:02:59.760 Oh, you know who we could ask?

00:03:01.400 The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. 0.94

00:03:05.680 The disease is the same name as the lab.

00:03:09.020 So, anyways, Bill Gates talks about germ games.

00:03:15.240 He talks about how vaccines, which he promotes, really don't work and maybe aren't even really vaccines.

00:03:21.400 That's quite something for him to say.

00:03:22.800 You or I would be canceled if we said something like that.

00:03:26.800 He talks about trillions of dollars and millions of lives lost.

00:03:30.780 And then he talks about smallpox possibly being released in 10 airports.

00:03:38.020 Okay, watch this whole thing for yourself.

00:03:39.820 I'll see you in three minutes.

00:03:41.280 And are we doing things now, or rather, are we not doing things now that we really need to be doing in preparation for the next pandemic?

00:03:49.160 Yeah, so it's 2015 that I gave the TED Talk and wrote a number of papers titled, We're Not Ready for the Next Pandemic.

00:04:00.440 And sadly, that was a better forecast of what would happen than anyone would have wished for.

00:04:09.000 You know, the economic damage, the deaths, it's been completely horrific.

00:04:16.100 And I would expect that will lead the R&D budgets to be focused on things we didn't have today.

00:04:25.400 You know, we didn't have vaccines that block transmission.

00:04:28.020 We got vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmissions.

00:04:33.400 We need a new way of doing the vaccines.

00:04:36.480 We didn't get much in the way of therapeutics.

00:04:39.440 You know, dexamethasone and now molnopiravir could help, but way less than should have been the case.

00:04:47.520 We didn't get the diagnostics up and running in order to, you know, achieve what at least Australia and New Zealand showed,

00:04:54.640 that competent management to keep the death rate down pretty dramatically.

00:05:01.900 And so I'm hoping in five years I can write a book called, you know, we are ready for the next pandemic.

00:05:07.020 But it'll take tens of billions in R&D that the U.S. and the U.K. will be part of that.

00:05:15.220 It'll take probably about a billion a year for a pandemic task force at the WHO level, which is doing the surveillance and actually doing what I call germ games,

00:05:25.540 where you practice, you say, OK, what if a bioterrorist brought smallpox to 10 airports? 0.57

00:05:32.300 You know, how would the world respond to that?

00:05:36.420 You know, that there's naturally caused epidemics and bioterrorism caused epidemics that could even be way worse than what we experience today.

00:05:45.360 And yet the advances in medical science should give us tools that, you know, we could do dramatically better.

00:05:52.900 So you'd think this would be a priority.

00:05:55.740 The next year will be where those allocations have to get made, including this global pandemic task force.

00:06:04.900 The nice thing is a lot of the R&D we need to do to be ready for the next pandemic are things like making vaccines cheap, having big factories, eradicating the flu, getting rid of the common cold,

00:06:17.280 making vaccines just a little patch you put on your arm, things that will be incredibly beneficial even in the years when we don't have pandemics.

00:06:25.120 So, you know, along with the climate message and the ongoing fight against disease of the poor, the pandemic preparedness is something I'll be talking about a lot.

00:06:37.500 And I think it'll find fertile ground because, you know, we lost trillions of dollars and millions of lives.

00:06:44.900 And, you know, government citizens expect their governments not to let that happen again.

00:06:49.760 OK, so let's put aside his admission that vaccines don't actually work as vaccines.

00:06:56.840 I mean, seriously, here's a study published in the British Medical Journal that shows that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is only 3% effective after six months.

00:07:08.460 3%, not 93% or 33%, 3%.

00:07:12.340 Now, of course, that's great news for Johnson & Johnson.

00:07:16.740 It means they get to sell you another shot and then another shot and then another shot.

00:07:21.860 And if you criticize them, you're the enemy.

00:07:24.360 Here's the president of Pfizer who says if you purposefully criticize vaccines, you're not just wrong. 0.97

00:07:32.340 You're a criminal.

00:07:33.500 Of course, his interviewer absolutely agrees. 0.75

00:07:36.540 But there is a very small part of professionals which they circulate on purpose misinformation so that they will mislead those that they have concerns. 0.82

00:07:51.120 Those people are criminals.

00:07:52.520 They're not bad people. 0.92

00:07:54.280 They're criminals because they literally costed millions of lives.

00:07:59.020 And should be treated as criminals as well, those who have done that.

00:08:02.320 I wonder if Bill Gates thinks that trillions of dollars of damage was done by the virus or by government's economy-smashing, liberty-destroying response to the virus.

00:08:13.440 He never talks about freedom, Bill Gates.

00:08:15.360 He only talks about money, which he cares a lot about, and about his schemes, which he's obsessed with.

00:08:21.660 I think he actually cares about freedom in his own life, but because he's one of the world's richest and most powerful men, he's free to do whatever he wants, no matter what.

00:08:31.680 So he never really thinks about freedom because he has it, and that's enough.

00:08:36.280 He's a global warming fear monger, as you heard, but he only travels in private jet.

00:08:41.560 In fact, he not only flies in private jets, he just invested in a private jet company.

00:08:46.740 He has one of the world's biggest houses, so he never thinks about freedom because he naturally assumes that he can do literally whatever he wants.

00:08:56.140 He'll be exempt. 0.86

00:08:57.760 He can even hang out with his old child rapist friend Jeffrey Epstein. 0.98

00:09:02.660 I mean, if you're willing to keep visiting a child rapist as Jeffrey Epstein was, gee, I wonder what they were doing together. 0.85

00:09:10.040 You're probably not really worried about following rules like reduce, reuse, recycle, lower your carbon footprint, whatever.

00:09:19.400 If you think I'm exaggerating his connection, we'll take it up with Bill Gates' ex-wife, who cites it as the reason they got divorced.

00:09:30.820 I wonder what he actually did with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:09:32.940 I mean, we could ask Epstein about it, except for, you know, that fact that he's dead.

00:09:40.660 You know, I've said I regretted having those dinners, and there's nothing, absolutely nothing new on that.

00:09:47.620 Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking at this?

00:09:53.760 Well, he's dead, so, you know, in general, you always have to be careful. 0.99

00:09:58.800 I think Bill Gates is a madman. 1.00

00:10:03.220 I think he's a sociopath. 1.00

00:10:05.400 I think he has these schemes. 0.99

00:10:08.060 He looks like a harmless nerd.

00:10:10.500 I think that's how he gets away with things. 0.96

00:10:13.120 I mean, compare that with Jeffrey Epstein, who looks like a predator. 0.93

00:10:16.560 He looks like an evil villain.

00:10:17.960 He lived in a kind of a bat cave in Manhattan. 0.99

00:10:20.520 He had a private jet. 0.98

00:10:21.960 He had a private island where he would rape young girls with a bizarre temple on it. 0.98

00:10:27.080 So, Jeffrey Epstein really was a Bond villain, truly evil. 0.97

00:10:32.100 But, yeah, of course, it goes without saying.

00:10:34.940 Bill Clinton was one of the most frequent travelers to that island.

00:10:38.800 But Bill Gates' nerdiness covers a deep cruelty, a lack of human empathy, and a messiah complex.

00:10:48.920 It's extremely rare that he's held to account.

00:10:51.000 He's so rich and so powerful, no one dares speak up to him.

00:10:53.840 I showed you Judy Woodruff.

00:10:55.820 Here's Anderson Cooper giving it a try.

00:10:58.900 A couple of things of reporting that have been out there I want to ask you about, and I think it's no one's business, what happens in a person's marriage.

00:11:05.260 The New York Times and Wall Street Journal both reported in recent months that Melinda was concerned about a relationship you had with Jeffrey Epstein,

00:11:13.400 who, at the time you met him in 2011, had been already convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor.

00:11:20.000 The Times reported she hired divorce attorneys around the time in October 2019 when that contact with Epstein became public.

00:11:27.000 Can you explain your relationship with Epstein?

00:11:29.120 Did you have any concerns?

00:11:30.180 Was there ever any concerns you had about it?

00:11:32.560 Oh, certainly.

00:11:34.600 You know, I had several dinners with him, you know, hoping that what he said about getting billions of philanthropy for global health through contacts that he had might emerge.

00:11:51.420 You know, when it looked like that wasn't a real thing, that relationship ended.

00:11:56.200 But it was a huge mistake to spend time with him, to give him the credibility of, you know, being there.

00:12:02.880 There were lots of others in that same situation, but I made a mistake.

00:12:08.520 There's been reporting about workplace behavior in the past.

00:12:12.260 The New York Times reported six women from Microsoft, the company you created, your foundation, and the financial firm that manages your fortune said that your behavior at times created an uncomfortable workplace environment.

00:12:23.980 I know a spokeswoman for you acknowledged you had an affair 20 years ago with a Microsoft employee that she said ended amicably.

00:12:30.980 Do you have regrets?

00:12:31.780 Well, certainly, I think everyone does, but, you know, it's a time of reflection, and, you know, I, you know, at this point, I need to go forward.

00:12:51.580 You know, my work is very important to me.

00:12:56.740 You know, within the family, we'll heal as best we can.

00:13:01.780 And learn from what's happened.

00:13:05.320 Well, just on a personal level, I'm sorry for what you and your family are going through.

00:13:08.700 Woodruff and Cooper are the only two interviews I've ever seen that even come close to asking him about the subject.

00:13:15.420 How often is Bill Gates cited without critical comment at all?

00:13:21.020 Here's a tweet from the National Post just last month.

00:13:24.060 Bill Gates identifies being able to empower others as a defining leadership trait.

00:13:29.120 Wow, that's great accountability journalism there.

00:13:32.600 You're speaking truth to power, aren't you?

00:13:34.880 It's only when you click through that link on the National Post that you discover it's a paid advertorial.

00:13:40.840 Is there any media that isn't bought off?

00:13:45.440 I think Bill Gates is a kind of mad scientist. 0.95

00:13:48.320 If he didn't have money, he'd be a kook, a crank, perhaps a criminal. 1.00

00:13:53.600 Here he is drinking sewage water, which he claimed is rehabilitated. 0.57

00:14:00.220 Take a look.

00:14:00.640 Every corner of the earth, it needs it because it makes money every day.

00:14:04.500 Here he is daydreaming of how to solve the climate problem, in part through depopulation.

00:14:14.500 Now, the world today has 6.8 billion people.

00:14:17.580 That's headed up to about 9 billion.

00:14:19.920 Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services,

00:14:26.380 we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.

00:14:29.620 What did he mean by that?

00:14:31.220 First, we've got population.

00:14:33.360 If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services,

00:14:39.320 we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.

00:14:44.260 I don't understand that.

00:14:46.140 I mean, he's one of the world's most prolific funders of abortion, particularly in the third world.

00:14:50.880 OK, I understand how that reduces population.

00:14:53.640 But what does he mean by including vaccines in a plan to stop the world's population from growing

00:14:59.760 and then actually lower the world's population by 10 or 15 percent?

00:15:03.540 How are vaccines a plan to reduce the number of people?

00:15:05.800 Aren't vaccines supposed to increase the number of people by saving us from a death?

00:15:12.340 What does he mean by including vaccines in a plan to reduce the world population?

00:15:16.640 That doesn't make any sense, does it?

00:15:19.920 These are my thoughts on Bill Gates.

00:15:21.500 I've shared some of them with you before. 0.99

00:15:23.340 I think he's a madman. 0.95

00:15:24.500 I think he's a menace with $100 billion. 0.99

00:15:27.040 I think he's a real danger.

00:15:28.720 And he just can't get enough of vaccines.

00:15:32.160 But what was that one part?

00:15:34.360 You say, OK, what if a bioterrorist brought smallpox to 10 airports? 0.59

00:15:39.760 You know, how would the world respond to that?

00:15:43.440 Smallpox?

00:15:44.540 Wasn't smallpox eradicated?

00:15:46.460 Wasn't that like a great moment?

00:15:48.680 Smallpox was one of the world's worst diseases.

00:15:50.680 It was horrible.

00:15:51.560 Look what it did to people.

00:15:52.860 Killed so many people.

00:15:55.840 There was a smallpox epidemic in Montreal in 1885.

00:15:58.840 Horrible disease.

00:16:00.620 But over time, it was eradicated.

00:16:03.800 Literally wiped out.

00:16:05.220 In fact, there were only two samples of smallpox that remained in the world.

00:16:11.320 And the World Health Organization of the UN gave one of those samples each

00:16:15.900 to the United States and the Soviet Union at the time.

00:16:21.180 For safekeeping.

00:16:22.140 So it's gone.

00:16:24.180 It's eradicated.

00:16:24.980 So what is Bill Gates talking about, about a terrorist attack using smallpox?

00:16:30.420 I suppose it's possible that the U.S. or the Russian sample of smallpox was stolen.

00:16:37.400 Or someone was bribed.

00:16:39.980 It could be.

00:16:41.160 But let's rule that out for now.

00:16:42.680 We have no evidence of that at all.

00:16:44.000 So why is Bill Gates talking about a smallpox attack?

00:16:49.080 Is that what he meant by germ games?

00:16:53.100 Is that part of his plan to reduce world population?

00:16:55.420 I don't know.

00:16:55.740 He says that's his goal.

00:16:57.740 He says we have to do it.

00:16:59.080 He's not going to do anything.

00:17:02.460 We've just got to reduce.

00:17:03.480 Now, we know Bill Gates' ethics are so absent. 0.51

00:17:07.260 He was friends with a child rapist who he now speaks about with such a coldness.

00:17:12.080 It's terrifying, actually. 0.99

00:17:13.480 He's dead.

00:17:14.300 He's dead now.

00:17:15.440 He's dead now.

00:17:16.280 But what does he mean by all this?

00:17:19.260 Oh, I don't know.

00:17:20.560 Smallpox?

00:17:21.240 What is he talking about?

00:17:22.180 Well, as a Canadian, perhaps he will be filled with feelings of national pride to know that Canadian scientists at the University of Alberta are finding ways to sort of artificially recreate smallpox.

00:17:36.820 Or at least to find a stand-in for it, to make a vaccine for it.

00:17:43.320 Here, let me tell you what I mean.

00:17:44.780 Here's the study.

00:17:46.280 As published by Anthony Fauci's National Institutes of Health, it's from an experiment at the University of Alberta.

00:17:53.420 The title of this paper is Construction of an Infectious Horsepox Virus Vaccine from Chemically Synthesized DNA Fragments.

00:18:07.300 So horsepox is related to smallpox.

00:18:09.340 So they think they can make a smallpox vaccine out of horsepox.

00:18:13.860 Why are you guys doing this?

00:18:16.280 So you want to make a virus artificially to then make a vaccine to fight this virus that you just made.

00:18:25.380 I think that's what they're doing here.

00:18:28.380 I think that's what they're doing here.

00:18:28.400 I read this.

00:18:28.880 So that really does sound like something Bill Gates would get behind, doesn't it?

00:18:32.880 That sounds like exactly what Anthony Fauci was funding at Wuhan.

00:18:36.820 Gain of function, that kind of thing.

00:18:39.720 Look at this.

00:18:40.440 This is from that study.

00:18:41.440 Funding statements.

00:18:43.940 This work was performed under a research agreement with Tonic's Pharmaceuticals.

00:18:49.040 The funder played a role in the formulation of the project, the decision to publish, and preparation of the manuscript.

00:18:55.820 Okay, got it.

00:18:58.220 So creating an artificial virus and then a vaccine for this.

00:19:03.420 This was all paid for by a private vaccine company.

00:19:06.920 And they'll do their work at the University of Alberta.

00:19:10.040 That sounds about right.

00:19:12.920 Tonic's Pharmaceuticals.

00:19:14.340 They're so excited.

00:19:15.540 They put out a press release about it back in 2018.

00:19:18.920 I'll read it to you.

00:19:20.720 Tonic's Pharmaceuticals announces publication reporting synthesis, construction, and characterization of a potential smallpox-preventing vaccine.

00:19:29.060 Candidate TNX 801.

00:19:30.760 Live horsepox virus from cell culture.

00:19:35.980 And who do they quote in their press release?

00:19:37.920 They're very excited about it.

00:19:38.840 A new and improved smallpox vaccine would address a well-recognized risk of the intentional reintroduction of the smallpox virus, a risk for which governments should prepare, commented Jose Esparza, MD, PhD, former president of the Global Virus Network, former senior advisor on global health vaccines to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

00:20:05.040 Okay, got it.

00:20:05.860 They've been thinking about this for a long time, haven't they?

00:20:11.960 Mr. Depopulation, he's interested in this stuff.

00:20:15.940 And here's a press release later that year from the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration.

00:20:22.780 FDA approves the first drug with an indication for treatment of smallpox.

00:20:27.520 Oh, let's quote a line from it.

00:20:29.700 To address the risk of bioterrorism, Congress has taken steps to enable the development and approval of countermeasures to thwart pathogens that could be employed as weapons.

00:20:41.440 Today's approval provides an important milestone in these efforts.

00:20:45.340 This new treatment affords us an additional option should smallpox ever be used as a bioweapon, said FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, MD.

00:20:57.480 Got it, Scott Gottlieb.

00:21:02.780 What's he doing these days?

00:21:04.040 That was 2018.

00:21:05.160 What's he doing these days?

00:21:06.520 Oh, right.

00:21:07.220 I forgot.

00:21:09.200 He now works as a director of Pfizer.

00:21:11.080 This is like one of those Escher drawings, you know, the two hands drawing each other, the virus and the antivirus.

00:21:20.740 That's sort of how Microsoft was built, wasn't it?

00:21:23.600 Bill Gates talking about germ games.

00:21:26.480 Bill Gates funding germ games, making vaccines just in case.

00:21:31.220 And whoopsies, it happened in Wuhan and the vaccines part didn't really work out that well.

00:21:38.740 But that's OK, because we've got to depopulate the world 10 or 15 percent somehow.

00:21:45.680 New vaccines, health care, reproductive health services.

00:21:49.080 We could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.

00:21:52.020 Look, I'm not alleging anything.

00:21:53.360 I'm just looking at the crazy world.

00:21:55.400 I'm pointing out that Bill Gates says he believes in vaccines, which are supposed to save lives.

00:22:00.920 But he also is the world's biggest financier of abortions in the third world.

00:22:06.040 And he says we need to have 10 to 15 percent fewer people on the planet.

00:22:10.080 And you heard him.

00:22:11.260 He said vaccines are a part of that.

00:22:12.920 I don't get it.

00:22:13.940 I'm saying he seems awfully excited about germ games and awfully comfortable talking about smallpox making a comeback.

00:22:23.480 And the man who has his fingers in all of this, he was a man who shares the moral code of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:22:34.260 I think these people love what's going on.

00:22:36.760 I think Bill Gates is living out his dream.

00:22:40.220 I don't even know his full plans.

00:22:42.700 Who does he's buying up land across America and around the world at a record pace while he tells us to drink sewer water and eat bugs.

00:22:51.860 He's buying up farmland around the world. 0.99

00:22:55.460 This is a madman. 0.98

00:22:57.880 He just dresses like Mr. Rogers. 1.00

00:23:01.560 So our guard is down.

00:23:04.960 Stay with us for more.

00:23:12.700 Well, there are real scholarly papers.

00:23:21.620 There are things you just can't fake.

00:23:24.020 The hard sciences being amongst them.

00:23:26.500 We see some junk science in the field of immunology and the pandemic these days, although, frankly, most of the science, I think, is telling the truth biologically.

00:23:37.480 But what happens if you move away from physics and math and chemistry and biology towards, I don't know, the fuzzier academic disciplines?

00:23:46.560 I mean, I graduated more than 20 years ago.

00:23:49.720 But these days, a lot of kids, when they're in school, take some sort of grievance studies.

00:23:56.600 Anything with the word studies after it is sort of a tip off.

00:23:59.960 And a Ph.D. in math who put this to the test is our guest today.

00:24:07.320 His name is Dr. Jim Lindsay.

00:24:09.680 He's a mathematician.

00:24:11.140 And along with other academics, Peter Bergosi and Helen Pluckrose, who I believe is from the U.K.,

00:24:16.960 they wrote and submitted 20 hoax papers, studies that were just not even studies.

00:24:26.480 They were full of Orwellian woke newspeak.

00:24:31.760 And they submitted these to prestigious academic journals.

00:24:36.320 I just got to read you one of the examples.

00:24:39.220 Queer performativity at urban dog parks and other fat shaming in bodybuilding. 0.99

00:24:44.680 And several of them were actually published.

00:24:49.060 I think this proves that wokeism, well, is it even a joke?

00:24:54.120 Can you even mock it?

00:24:55.500 Joining us now via Skype from Knoxville is Dr. Jim Lindsay.

00:24:59.480 Dr. Lindsay, what a pleasure to have you on the show.

00:25:02.540 That was one of the classic, I'm not even going to call it a practical joke.

00:25:06.480 I'm going to call it an experiment. 0.94

00:25:09.040 I mean, what you did was a scholarly experiment that proved a hypothesis that all this wokeism is just junk. 0.81

00:25:18.060 What do you think? 0.95

00:25:19.480 I think that's right.

00:25:21.140 So our idea was that if we could start with our conclusions and work backwards,

00:25:25.440 then we're showing that it's possible to start with your conclusions and work backwards.

00:25:29.260 And that's not how you should be doing academia.

00:25:33.820 You shouldn't start with science or any study.

00:25:36.320 You shouldn't start with your conclusion, which is ideologically driven or absurd,

00:25:40.160 like we need a category of bodybuilding for fat bodybuilding, 0.65

00:25:44.480 where we showcase fat like a bodybuilder,

00:25:47.680 because fat and muscle are only different in social construction,

00:25:50.900 because we care about them differently.

00:25:52.480 There's nothing qualitatively different about these things.

00:25:54.960 That's totally absurd.

00:25:56.240 And so the idea that we could start with that and then use their ideologically driven literature

00:26:01.880 to support virtually any conclusion, it shouldn't happen.

00:26:06.240 And so I think it was a very important expose, a very important experiment.

00:26:10.460 I agree with you with that.

00:26:11.800 And it didn't go well for these kind of grievance studies, humanities disciplines.

00:26:17.900 You know, starting with a conclusion and then setting up things to, you know, working backwards,

00:26:23.640 that really sounds to me like a lot of the most politicized disciplines.

00:26:28.540 I think of climate studies.

00:26:30.660 There is a climate study that can prove anything.

00:26:33.880 And there's so much money there.

00:26:36.140 There's whole industries.

00:26:37.800 You can prove anything.

00:26:39.080 There's a study saying that it's cooler because of global warming.

00:26:43.000 Obviously, studies saying it's warmer because of global warming,

00:26:45.720 that there's more storms, less storms, like any thing.

00:26:49.040 It's unfalsifiable. 0.97

00:26:49.640 There's so much junk science out there. 0.61

00:26:54.000 Now, I guess this contradicts what I said earlier about hard sciences being tough to fake. 0.94

00:26:58.700 But when you get into the mushy, foggy stuff like gender theory and race theory,

00:27:05.100 I think it's literally anything goes.

00:27:08.380 I don't even know if there is even such a thing as true scholarship.

00:27:10.860 I don't know if there is any more, to be honest with you.

00:27:14.600 And the problem there is, is that you actually have a fusion of activism and scholarship.

00:27:19.380 And that's another aspect that we wanted to kind of reveal.

00:27:22.120 The activists have their view of the world.

00:27:24.480 They have their conclusions.

00:27:25.220 And when you get into social theory, you know, there's a long legacy of the past,

00:27:29.260 over the past hundred years, at least.

00:27:30.620 We could go back hundreds of years where people have bad social theories.

00:27:34.120 And if you try to put those into action, they cause a disaster.

00:27:40.580 Marxism, for example, is a bad social theory.

00:27:43.100 This is an offshoot of Marxism, as it turns out, where the activism comes first,

00:27:46.880 the goal comes first, an agenda comes first.

00:27:49.340 And then the scholarship is produced, if we can call it scholarship,

00:27:52.140 is produced in order to serve that agenda,

00:27:54.080 which is even worse than just getting research backwards so that you can get credentials

00:27:58.220 or, you know, a feather in your cap or tenure.

00:28:00.440 It's actually tearing apart the foundations of society with an agenda-driven program.

00:28:07.080 And the social, I don't want to say the social sciences, although they're guilty as well.

00:28:11.820 I want to say these social theories, theoretical social fields are particularly prone to this

00:28:18.460 and have been completely colonized so that you can't now distinguish between activism

00:28:22.000 and actual scholarship to the point where I don't know what is actual scholarship.

00:28:26.060 Yeah. You know, I think a lot of it is just an argument by authority.

00:28:33.420 There's a logical flaw that because someone authoritative says something,

00:28:37.100 well, we have to trust them because you're not defying their authority, right?

00:28:41.400 And I mean, this used to be how religions and theocracies worked.

00:28:46.700 And then there was a bit of skepticism and enlightenment.

00:28:49.320 And, you know, we should certainly listen to all people and we should be thoughtful about the place of faith in deciding things.

00:28:58.060 But I think that skepticism has gone away, especially in the last two years with this pandemic.

00:29:03.600 Let me read to you from one of the few scientists in Congress.

00:29:07.680 And I'm just going to read a tweet from my phone.

00:29:10.500 This is from Thomas Massey, who's actually an MIT grad.

00:29:15.060 He's a master's of science.

00:29:16.060 He holds a dozen patents.

00:29:17.860 I think he might actually be the smartest congressman in Washington, just in terms of sheer book smarts.

00:29:25.260 Just let me read something he posted the other day that I hadn't really thought about, but it's spot on.

00:29:30.700 He said, COVID face coverings are the only government mandated safety equipment or medical devices for which there are no specifications or certifications.

00:29:42.620 But rest assured, their design and application is prescribed by highly vetted practitioners of political science.

00:29:49.320 And his point is, OK, so you must wear a mask.

00:29:52.260 It's the law.

00:29:53.420 It's an order when you're on a plane, when you're in this or that.

00:29:56.460 But what is a mask?

00:29:57.700 We don't describe it.

00:29:59.220 You know, it could be made of, I don't know, you could knit it, I guess, theoretically.

00:30:04.380 And his point is that it's not a real thing.

00:30:07.760 There's no basis to it.

00:30:09.400 As Bill Maher says, it's like an amulet.

00:30:13.340 It's like a superstitious amulet.

00:30:15.760 It's like wearing a clove of garlic to scare off a vampire.

00:30:21.900 But ask any doctor. 0.97

00:30:25.460 So I think this junk science has infected public health. 0.70

00:30:29.400 And now it's scaring a lot of private doctors, too. 0.68

00:30:32.840 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:33.940 I've actually been referring to these things as talisman memes or talisman.

00:30:37.260 If they're words, talisman memes or ideas.

00:30:39.380 And if they're something like a mask, they are talismans.

00:30:42.340 They're to ward off magic amulets, to ward off bad spirits like the COVID spirit. 0.99

00:30:47.400 But what we see in general that links all of these things that we've talked about is when you have the activist agenda driving what looks like scholarship or what looks like public policy,

00:30:57.880 you have a massive problem on your hands.

00:31:00.840 It's, you know, it's no different than when the sugar industry put out a bunch of junk science that said that fats make you fat and unhealthy and give you cholesterol problems and heart disease.

00:31:11.820 And that sugar is a healthy alternative where it turns out that that's exactly the opposite of true.

00:31:16.220 And the cronyist interest for the sugar industry is blatant.

00:31:20.620 But when it becomes, you know, a political activism project to, say, you know, reset the world or whatever to a new paradigm,

00:31:28.820 people aren't as aware because they don't see the corporate interest.

00:31:32.540 But the corporate interests here are obvious.

00:31:33.960 There's the banks, there's Pfizer, there's Moderna.

00:31:36.580 These huge, huge corporations making gigantic profits off of these agenda driven decisions.

00:31:42.580 And they're laundering the academic literature to serve their bottom lines and to serve their political agendas, which are intertwined.

00:31:49.920 Hmm. You know, you mentioned big sugar.

00:31:52.980 I mean, I used to hear that phrase, and I think it was typically for protectionism of sugar manufacturers, especially in the state of Florida, big sugar.

00:32:02.120 But it really was they who tried to twist the science to get people worried about fat instead of sugar.

00:32:10.860 I think you saw the same thing when I think it was Chesapeake, a natural gas company paid money to environmental groups to demonize coal.

00:32:21.160 I think there's always agendas behind things.

00:32:23.800 And what I can't I mean, I understand the Pfizer and Moderna, which I understand had never actually brought a single product to market ever in its history before this vaccine.

00:32:37.260 And it's just making billions now.

00:32:39.600 And I and I got to think, where's the left?

00:32:42.120 Because just that phrase, big sugar, big tobacco, big banks, big, big, big.

00:32:46.900 The left was always against big pharma.

00:32:50.660 They were always for the working man and the union man.

00:32:55.200 They were always my body, my choice.

00:32:57.560 They were always the one same personal privacy.

00:33:00.180 It's between me and God and my doctor.

00:33:04.240 And all of a sudden, they're shills for big pharma.

00:33:07.440 They believe in throwing out the working man. 0.98

00:33:09.760 I mean, for God's sakes, in New York City, they're firing garbage men who aren't vaxxed because they're not clean enough to handle your garbage. 0.96

00:33:17.040 And forget about pro-choice and personal privacy. 0.98

00:33:20.500 What the hell happened to the left?

00:33:21.760 Did they never mean it?

00:33:23.200 Like, did they not actually ever mean those things?

00:33:26.440 Depends on which part of the left.

00:33:27.920 I would say that there are many parts of the left that never meant it.

00:33:30.800 I would say if we even go back to, say, Karl Marx himself, I don't think he meant any of it about class consciousness and class conflict.

00:33:36.740 He saw a way to tear down a society he was angry at.

00:33:39.600 And class seemed to be the most powerful and interesting variable.

00:33:42.820 So why not switch that to gender now? 0.86

00:33:44.420 Why not switch that to race?

00:33:45.440 It never mattered which one.

00:33:46.880 The goal was just to get to revolution.

00:33:49.220 And revolution was going to create the new society that people that would be in his orbit would get to control.

00:33:54.820 And so for some of them, it's very cynical.

00:33:56.420 For others, they just got in bed.

00:33:58.560 Where are they?

00:33:59.240 Where's the left?

00:33:59.840 They're in bed with these interests.

00:34:01.640 Why?

00:34:01.940 Because they want power.

00:34:03.460 They want power.

00:34:04.140 They want control.

00:34:04.820 They know that if they want their political agendas and dreams achieved, they need power and control.

00:34:08.900 And they realize that these big corporations and the way that they can influence government have it.

00:34:13.560 So if they make a deal with that devil and they say, we're not going to come after you the way Occupy Wall Street went after the banks, we're not going to come after you and do what classical leftism did to where the little man and everybody else is getting cut down.

00:34:30.120 If, on the other hand, you promote our social agenda, then you've got this ugly, dirty deal that's happened between the two.

00:34:37.700 This is like a marriage of convenience is a good way to put it, where neither side particularly likes the other, but they're hugely benefiting off of each other.

00:34:45.820 And then they've got like the third wheel in the government that's playing along with it as well.

00:34:49.440 And that's if you, where is the left?

00:34:51.380 The left is in bed and you can add whatever intense metaphor you want to that.

00:34:56.640 So what they're doing there.

00:34:58.760 Yeah.

00:34:59.180 You know what?

00:34:59.660 I mean, you're, you published a book last year called cynical theories and you can see the cover on the screen.

00:35:05.460 You crossed out critical theories and replace it with cynical theories.

00:35:08.780 And I think this is in the news again, because in the state of Virginia, which went, you know, I think it went 10% pro Biden, if my math is, if my memory is right, like it went seriously pro Biden one year ago.

00:35:23.100 I mean, they, they had written off Virginia as a blue state, as they say, a Democrat state.

00:35:28.200 And then a series of comments by the democratic candidate for governor, Terry McAuliffe about how parents have no place in the school really were jarring.

00:35:38.440 And Ann Coulter says, and I think she's right, that a lot of moms and dads were at home working from home and they saw their kids doing zoom classes and they overheard for the first time things that were being said in class.

00:35:49.960 And they were shocked that school kids were being taught racial theories and gender theories based on Marxism.

00:35:58.120 You talk about Marxism and class warfare and these critical theories replace class with gender.

00:36:04.200 So it's men versus women and ones of the oppressor ones, the oppressed race. 0.99

00:36:09.620 Everyone white is an oppressor. 0.99

00:36:11.260 Everyone black is a victim. 1.00

00:36:13.120 And then extend that to trans, to gay and to trans issues, extend that to, you were joking around about fat studies. 0.98

00:36:21.540 You can keep dividing and atomizing society, us against them.

00:36:28.340 Barack Obama was a pro at it.

00:36:30.580 I think Terry McAuliffe just said the quiet part out loud.

00:36:34.420 This really is deeply hardwired into our schools as young as kindergarten, isn't it?

00:36:40.820 It is.

00:36:41.500 It absolutely is.

00:36:42.180 You mentioned Obama too.

00:36:43.180 It's kind of interesting.

00:36:43.920 He just put out, I think, a statement today or a tweet or said it in a speech.

00:36:48.300 I don't remember.

00:36:48.780 I saw it on Twitter.

00:36:49.400 So everything gets confused.

00:36:50.680 But he actually said that I saw on Twitter.

00:36:52.600 So I guess he did it in a speech that young people need to stay mad about the climate.

00:36:55.680 But this is all of what we've just referred to as actually a roadmap that was laid in the 1960s by the kind of father of the new left, as it got called, named Herbert Marcuse.

00:37:05.380 He was one of the critical theorists who other authors have named critical Marxists.

00:37:09.280 And he realized that the working class had been stabilized by the advances in capitalism through the early part of the 20th century.

00:37:15.900 So the working class was generally conservative.

00:37:18.120 This means there's no revolutionary force there.

00:37:20.240 You're not going to get a revolution.

00:37:21.580 And he said, well, where can we find it?

00:37:22.940 And more or less his answer was identity politics and radicalize students.

00:37:26.240 If we can radicalize students and get them to take up identity politics and then get the identity groups to participate in this, then we can get our revolutionary energy.

00:37:34.900 And this is what's actually played out.

00:37:36.820 So when Obama says, you know, the young people should stay mad about the climate, he's radicalizing students so that they can agitate around this.

00:37:43.560 It's the exact same Marcusean critical Marxist playbook.

00:37:46.680 So that's critical Marxism.

00:37:48.560 Critical Marxism went into identity politics and became what I now call identity Marxism.

00:37:52.920 And this has become part and parcel in what our schools teach.

00:37:56.440 They're obsessed, as any communist throughout history has been, with whichever the theory of their day is.

00:38:01.340 They're utterly obsessed with it.

00:38:02.860 And so everything, their goal, and I mean this, people ask me, what's the goal?

00:38:06.160 The goal is to make every single possible institution into a institution that generates what they call critical consciousness, whether it's a critical race consciousness, a critical gender consciousness, a queer consciousness.

00:38:17.120 And that every institution has to be changed into that so that the maximum number of people can be turned into little potential revolutionaries who are going to follow along with this.

00:38:26.340 And it is thoroughly embedded.

00:38:27.880 It has been working into our schools since the late 1960s and early 1970s.

00:38:32.260 And it's thoroughly embedded in our schools now, all the way across the board.

00:38:36.700 You know, it's incredible.

00:38:37.520 I mean, Ralph Northam, the outgoing governor in Virginia, literally dressing up in, I forget which, if he was the one in blackface or he was the one dressed as a Klansman, refused to step down.

00:38:49.780 Justin Trudeau in Canada dressed in blackface so often he lost count.

00:38:54.780 He couldn't even narrow it down how many times he did it.

00:38:59.540 He had a kit.

00:39:00.960 He had like a tickle trunk, like a costume trunk with his blackface gear. 0.99

00:39:07.200 He did it so often.

00:39:08.980 Those are the folks who get the pass from critical race theory.

00:39:14.980 And incredibly, I mean, I just can't help but point this out.

00:39:17.640 I did a show on her the other day.

00:39:18.960 The lieutenant governor in Virginia, a black immigrant woman named Winsome Sears, just amazing.

00:39:26.500 First Hispanic, I think, attorney general in the state. 0.82

00:39:31.820 Not only does that prove, I think, critical race theory to be a lie, but the viciousness and the venom with which the left goes after, in this case, black women, Hispanics who don't toe the line. 0.88

00:39:45.140 I think that also shows how intolerant the left is. 0.96

00:39:49.240 You'll never see a more vicious leftist than one going after a woman or a black or a gay person who don't know their place. 0.96

00:39:56.600 I'm a Jew because I'm not a leftist. 0.98

00:39:58.680 I'm called a Nazi.

00:40:00.300 You'll never see more viciousness than a leftist towards an identity group member who refuses to read a script.

00:40:06.500 That's my observation.

00:40:07.500 Yeah, I would even go further and actually tell you that it is proof that these Marxist leftists, these identity Marxists, are using the identity groups they hold up as shields.

00:40:19.040 They're using them.

00:40:20.080 They do not actually care about, for example, black lives, though they may profess to, and theoretically in abstract, they may. 0.56

00:40:26.340 But what we see is, in the wake of these police defundings, murder rates skyrocketing, theft skyrocketing, property damage skyrocketing, kidnapping skyrocketing across America, at the very least, most of which is concentrated in black and brown neighborhoods. 0.98

00:40:41.560 They don't care about the actual outcomes, and they only care about who they can hold up, as Ayanna Pressley put it.

00:40:47.780 We can even quote them on this.

00:40:49.560 Ayanna Pressley phrased it. 0.96

00:40:51.280 We don't want black faces. 1.00

00:40:53.380 We don't want to be black voices. 1.00

00:40:55.140 We don't want brown faces that don't want to be brown voices. 1.00

00:40:58.580 And so I can explain the way that critical race theory, for example, lays those tracks. 0.55

00:41:05.580 And there's a whole theory that explains why they think that way.

00:41:08.620 However, it doesn't matter why they think that way. 0.98

00:41:11.400 The fact of the matter is, is you are either part of their very narrow, very intolerant political program, or you are worse than trash, or you're a traitor or something like this, and they're going to treat you as such. 0.98

00:41:21.520 It's absolutely just a power grab. 0.97

00:41:23.580 It's not authentic, and they're using the people that they hold up.

00:41:27.160 Critical race theory talks about black and brown people all the time.

00:41:29.500 They're using them.

00:41:31.080 Nothing short of using them for their political agenda, which will hurt everybody, and of course, probably black and brown people the most, because they're being used. 0.99

00:41:38.800 I tell you, it's very interesting.

00:41:41.480 I haven't yet read your book, but I'm going to pick it up.

00:41:43.600 It's called Cynical Theories.

00:41:45.860 You can see it on the screen.

00:41:47.620 We'll have a link to it below that you can get it on Amazon.

00:41:51.120 We've been talking with Dr. Jim Lindsay.

00:41:54.140 Great to meet you.

00:41:55.160 I appreciate everything you've said, and I hope we can talk to you again, because these issues certainly aren't going away.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:02.940 I loved it.

00:42:03.920 Well, right on.

00:42:04.480 Thanks for your time.

00:42:05.280 Stay with us.

00:42:06.560 More ahead.

00:42:07.300 Hey, welcome back.

00:42:21.140 Your viewer feedback.

00:42:22.160 Big Vern says, no surrender, rebel and the good people of Canada.

00:42:27.940 Well, yeah, I wish, but I think that the surrender is pretty widespread.

00:42:33.460 Look, I think one of the reasons why political leaders across the country, including alleged conservatives like Aaron O'Toole, Doug Ford, and Jason Kenney, are proposing and enforcing brutal lockdowns and mask mandates and vax mandates is because they're popular in the opinion polls.

00:42:50.440 So, yeah, I don't think many Canadians are standing up.

00:42:53.940 Lynn Baribo says, my last nursing shift is November 11th.

00:42:58.020 Ironically, Remembrance Day, losing my job due to losing my bodily human rights in refusing the jab.

00:43:04.880 You know what?

00:43:05.480 It's wise to remember the Second World War and the First World War before, but it was the Second World War when we discovered the horrific medical experiments and torture conducted by doctors, not soldiers, doctors, Dr. Mengele and Dr. Bram.

00:43:21.380 We did a show on this the other day.

00:43:22.700 It was from there that we developed the Nuremberg Code of the Ten Principles of Medical Consent. 0.53

00:43:29.020 And isn't that really why people died, to save us from that kind of totalitarian horror?

00:43:36.920 And we've forgotten those horrors.

00:43:38.840 And I'm not saying we're there yet, but forcing people to undergo an injection.

00:43:43.940 And hundreds of people have had very severe reactions to them, very severe myocarditis, even death.

00:43:51.580 I think it's appropriate to remember those freedoms on Remembrance Day.

00:43:55.700 Let me close with our video of the day.

00:43:58.580 Hundreds of people gathering at Nathan Phillips Square outside the City Hall in Toronto.

00:44:04.580 Our friend, Dr. Julie Panessi, was speaking.

00:44:07.020 Our reporter, David Menzies, was on the scene.

00:44:09.480 And I'll leave you with that video.

00:44:10.720 And before that, I'll say to you, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:44:15.960 So now it's our turn.

00:44:18.620 Now it's our turn because our little ones are not watching.

00:44:22.200 What are our mom and dad doing now?

00:44:23.860 Are they going to go to you?

00:44:25.320 George King, the Scottish missionary, he wrote a million.

00:44:29.800 Now, because I won't attest, that means by November the 26th, I and many of my brothers and sisters, my colleagues, are going to be sent home, leave without pay, with no opportunity for benefits, no opportunity for unemployment.

00:44:45.360 Just go home, sit home and rot.

00:44:48.320 It'll hurt financially for sure.

00:44:49.940 You know, I've built myself a pretty good life up until this point.

00:44:54.940 Every single person who is standing up, whoever you are, wherever you are, however small or afraid or the more you feel, is making a difference.

00:45:07.380 Yeah, I mean, I think there's an incredible amount of pressure, both in the public, as everybody knows, but also within professional and academic disciplines.

00:45:15.380 Nobody wants to go against the grain.

00:45:17.580 Nobody wants to go against the narrative.

00:45:19.940 David Menzies for Rebel News here in Toronto.

00:45:24.940 Well, folks, I'm at Nathan Phillips Square, and, well, there's a demonstration here.

00:45:30.060 It's basically against the vaccine passports.

00:45:33.820 Emergency services personnel and the police have invited Pastor Hildebrandt of the Church of God in Elmer, Ontario, and they're having a church service currently.

00:45:44.700 And then they're going to have various speakers talk to this crowd, including, well, Dr. Julie Paness.

00:45:52.700 As you know, Dr. Paness was turfed from Western University for refusing to get the jab.

00:46:00.000 And she was at one of our recent Rebel events, brought the house down with a standing ovation. 0.72

00:46:04.840 And one of the quotes she passed along, it was from a nurse.

00:46:08.260 And I think it really, you know, demonstrates the insanity of the days we're in.

00:46:14.260 And it's simply this.

00:46:15.300 Why, as a nurse recently asked, do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that did not protect the protected in the first place?

00:46:28.520 I couldn't have said it better when it comes to the inanity and the insanity of vaccine passports. 1.00

00:46:40.120 So we're going to talk to some of the people, hopefully talk to some of the speakers and see what the next steps are going ahead as thousands and thousands of Canadians fight back against the vaccine passport.

00:46:53.100 As Terry was talking about, as Erin was talking about, police on guard, I am one of many lions that are standing and there are many more that are breaking out.

00:47:03.980 What are you hoping to accomplish here today, Stacey?

00:47:07.340 To bring awareness to what the police have been doing and that they are representing us.

00:47:13.400 They want to show the world that they are going to be turned into attack dogs.

00:47:18.160 This is actually headed up by the first responders in Toronto, EMS, Fire and Police.

00:47:23.100 Active duty.

00:47:24.780 These are individuals that are at the risk of losing their jobs in the next month or two as we see the vaccine passports becoming mandatory by these organizations.

00:47:34.540 And they've invited many people.

00:47:36.120 They call it the truth rally.

00:47:37.400 Well, folks, I'm with Corporal Bulford.

00:47:39.240 He is with the RCMP.

00:47:41.220 And unfortunately, he is about to be put on leave later this month.

00:47:46.800 What's the story?

00:47:47.440 Well, I've refused to comply with the federal government's vaccine policy that was announced on August, pardon me, October 6th, officially.

00:47:58.840 And I refused to fill out the attestation.

00:48:02.960 I was open and honest.

00:48:04.900 I said, I'm not going to do that.

00:48:06.620 We already have a process in place with our own internal mechanism for our own health services to have access to my private medical information.

00:48:14.520 And I was unwilling to register my private medical information with another government registry.

00:48:21.080 They have no business collecting that information, in my opinion.

00:48:24.400 What's going to happen to you?

00:48:25.420 And when's the deadline for you being told that you are persona non grata?

00:48:30.560 Well, there's the first deadline is November the 12th.

00:48:36.540 So Canada Post is forcing us to disclose.

00:48:40.500 Every employee has to disclose.

00:48:43.180 They have to attest to their status.

00:48:46.120 I refuse to attest.

00:48:48.160 I will not attest.

00:48:49.140 It's my private business.

00:48:50.280 I won't attest.

00:48:51.400 Now, because I won't attest, that means by November the 26th, I and many of my brothers and sisters, my colleagues,

00:49:00.120 are going to be sent home, leave without pay, with no opportunity for benefits, no opportunity for unemployment.

00:49:06.660 Just go home, sit home and rot.

00:49:09.040 At what point will you stand up and say, I am Canadian and get this wrong? 0.95

00:49:22.000 I'm with Dr. Julie Pinesse, and we all know the Dr. Pinesse story.

00:49:26.680 She was terminated with cause from a college affiliated with Western University.

00:49:33.360 And, you know, Dr. Pinesse, one thing I want to focus on is the fallout.

00:49:37.880 And I noticed when I looked at the media coverage, and there's a particular story in the Star that stands out.

00:49:44.980 They went and found another ethics professor in the United States who said that, yes, he would fail you if you were in his ethics course.

00:49:56.160 Is this, what do you make sense of this in terms of the media and even other ethics professors being on the side of government when it comes to this particular ethical issue?

00:50:07.700 You know, what's interesting is when you've gone through, you know, grad school and you've been in academia for a while,

00:50:14.020 one thing that's always very clear is that you can never get academics to agree about anything.

00:50:18.620 So the fact that we're having so much agreement, supposedly, so much consistency, especially from, you know, ethics professors,

00:50:25.780 there's no other bioethicists in Canada right now that I know of who is resisting or challenging or even questioning the mandates or the pandemic response in any way.

00:50:36.980 And that is, to put it very simply, just weird.

00:50:39.080 It's anomalous in terms of, you know, how academia normally works.

00:50:43.100 And I think we need to, you know, regardless of what your particular view is,

00:50:46.160 you would expect more discourse, more debate, more openness among academics whose job depends on figuring out how to ask the right questions and have lively debates.

00:50:57.280 And we're just not seeing that.

00:50:59.000 And I think that should be a sign to us that something is very odd within the discipline of bioethics and then in academia more generally.

00:51:08.280 I'm coming to peace with the fact that if I lose my job, I don't need that to be part of my identity anymore.

00:51:18.040 I can move on and reinvent myself and another career path.

00:51:23.260 But it's concerning for the future of our country.

00:51:30.680 This is a giant government overreach into the private lives of citizens of this country.

00:51:38.280 I'm not going to be a part of it.

00:51:40.720 I'm not going to comply with it.

00:51:42.700 And if they choose to take my job away, then I'll move on.

00:51:47.620 What are you going to do to make ends meet?

00:51:49.900 Well, that's a great question.

00:51:52.320 I mean, we all have our choices to make.

00:51:55.360 I have a family, my wife, my stepson.

00:51:59.720 We all work for Canada Post.

00:52:01.220 So my home is being devastated by this because we're not going to attest.

00:52:05.980 And I'm not telling anybody whether I have the shot or not.

00:52:10.000 That's nobody's business but mine.

00:52:12.440 And so for that choice, for that choice, we're being sent home.

00:52:17.240 I don't I think it's wrong.

00:52:19.340 And one of the reasons why I'm out here is because this is wrong.

00:52:23.840 And it's not even about the mandate.

00:52:25.920 Is this all about the coercion actually working that even when it comes to professors of ethics,

00:52:32.120 that if you don't toe the party line, you're going to be out of a job.

00:52:37.040 You're going to be shunned.

00:52:38.340 And therefore, even professors in your bailiwick, they're going along with this narrative.

00:52:46.140 Yeah, I mean, I think there's an incredible amount of pressure, both in the public, as everybody knows,

00:52:50.920 but also within professional and academic disciplines.

00:52:54.140 Nobody wants to go against the grain.

00:52:56.360 Nobody wants to go against the narrative.

00:52:58.020 You're called you're called selfish.

00:53:00.320 You're accused of not caring about people's safety and security.

00:53:05.700 It'll hurt financially for sure.

00:53:07.440 You know, I've I've built myself a pretty good life up until this point.

00:53:14.060 But there are other opportunities.

00:53:17.360 I don't know if it'll be in the anything to do with security and policing.

00:53:20.980 I don't know if I have that in me anymore.

00:53:24.940 And I think to do anything comparable.

00:53:28.840 Income wise, most will may demand a vaccine mandate of their own.

00:53:34.160 And I'm unwilling to do that.

00:53:35.880 So it might have the reality for me is I might have to explore something completely new.

00:53:43.380 But I'm willing to do that.

00:53:50.120 We've been told, at least when it comes to the feminist movement, when it comes to the abortion debate,

00:53:55.120 my body, my choice.

00:53:57.120 Is that all out of vogue now?

00:53:59.640 Or does it just apply when you're terminating a baby's life?

00:54:03.340 A very convenient double standard, I think.

00:54:05.500 Did you ever think you would see Canada?

00:54:11.840 No, I did not.

00:54:13.460 It's a surreal, unimaginable and horrifying all at once.

00:54:17.060 Thanks.

00:54:17.540 I'm not.

00:54:28.320 It's a surreal.

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Rebel News Podcast - November 10, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Bill Gates talks about playing “germ games”. Do you trust him？

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