Rebel News Podcast - December 31, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Billboard Chris details his global campaign against radical trans ideology


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

181.30478

Word Count

7,309

Sentence Count

521

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Bill Billboard, perhaps the most successful political campaigner in North America, joins Ezra on The Ezra LeVant Show to discuss Donald Trump's executive order defending the rights of women and girls in things like sports and intimate places like change rooms.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You're fighting for freedom!
00:00:02.880 Shame on you, you sensorism bug!
00:00:14.840 Tonight, a feature interview with Billboard Chris Elston,
00:00:18.720 perhaps the most successful political campaigner in North America.
00:00:22.900 You're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:24.560 One of the very first things Donald Trump did
00:00:30.920 after he was sworn in as president the second time
00:00:33.500 is he issued an executive order
00:00:35.620 defending the rights of women and girls
00:00:38.520 in things like sports, in intimate places like change rooms.
00:00:42.060 He was pushing back against the tide of transgenderism,
00:00:46.280 a very important move and a necessary one
00:00:48.480 because women in those positions are often politically vulnerable.
00:00:52.580 That is, for example, if they were an athlete
00:00:55.400 who had been training and competing her whole life
00:00:58.260 trying to get on, let's say, the national team
00:01:00.540 to raise a criticism could mean losing her life's dream.
00:01:04.820 And it's very difficult to push back against an organized bully,
00:01:09.640 which is really what the transgender movement has become.
00:01:12.920 Donald Trump took that battle away from millions of girls and women
00:01:17.320 and put it on himself.
00:01:18.400 It was an important step forward, but it happened in part, I believe,
00:01:22.720 because the ground had already been shaped.
00:01:25.840 The battlefield had already been attended to
00:01:28.600 by brave activists who spoke up before Trump made it easy to do so.
00:01:34.280 And I think one of the entire world's strongest voices
00:01:38.800 is a Canadian who is well known in Canada,
00:01:42.800 but who has taken his blunt, plain-spoken messages around the world,
00:01:48.600 to Europe, to the Americas.
00:01:50.280 In many places, he's always on the go.
00:01:52.900 In fact, he's joining us now in Canada,
00:01:54.460 but he's off to the States tomorrow.
00:01:56.080 You know who I'm talking about.
00:01:57.440 It's Chris Elston, better known as Billboard Chris.
00:02:01.100 And he joins us now from his home.
00:02:03.720 Chris, great to see you again.
00:02:05.000 I mean it when I say Trump did the important executive order,
00:02:09.440 but it was politically possible for him to do that
00:02:12.860 in large part because of the groundwork that you and other activists did.
00:02:18.820 So I guess congratulations are in order.
00:02:21.840 Yes, thank you.
00:02:22.740 I think this is the first successful pushback we've really had
00:02:25.480 against much of the left's agenda for probably 60 years
00:02:28.280 since the start of the sexual revolution.
00:02:30.300 So in addition to defending women and girls in sports,
00:02:32.820 Trump also did a very important thing,
00:02:34.200 which was he pulled federal funding from any hospital engaged
00:02:37.340 in the sex trait modification of children.
00:02:40.780 Of course, I'm referring to puberty blockers,
00:02:42.460 cross-sex hormones, and surgeries being done on kids
00:02:44.540 who have been taught this ridiculous notion
00:02:46.220 that they were born in the wrong body.
00:02:48.560 So my message has been consistently,
00:02:50.180 there's no such thing as a transgender child.
00:02:51.980 The positive message we should be pushing
00:02:53.360 is that our kids are beautiful just as they are.
00:02:55.400 They don't need drugs or scalpels,
00:02:57.360 and we're winning all over the world.
00:02:59.340 Well, that's a good point.
00:03:00.460 I mean, I know you've attended both the UK
00:03:02.280 and you've been to Ireland.
00:03:03.860 I think you were actually arrested in Ireland, if I recall.
00:03:07.400 The UK has also pulled back from some of the insanity.
00:03:12.440 Their top court said there is such a thing as biological women.
00:03:16.560 They had a famous medical report.
00:03:19.260 Tell us a little bit about that country
00:03:21.180 because the dominoes appear to be falling,
00:03:23.140 not yet here in Canada,
00:03:24.760 but ironically, some of the other places you've been to,
00:03:27.760 they are starting to reverse course too.
00:03:29.620 Can you give us an update from the UK?
00:03:32.180 Sure.
00:03:32.440 So in the UK, a doctor named Hilary Cass
00:03:34.580 wrote what's called a systematic review
00:03:36.340 where they look at all the scientific literature
00:03:37.980 and they found there was no evidence
00:03:39.840 or there was extremely low quality evidence
00:03:42.640 to support transitioning children.
00:03:44.620 So they stopped giving kids puberty blockers there.
00:03:48.080 They went even further in Scotland
00:03:49.420 and they stopped giving them the opposite sex hormones as well.
00:03:52.360 However, they're going a bit backwards right now,
00:03:55.880 proposing a clinical trial
00:03:57.240 where they're going to give these puberty blockers again
00:04:00.020 to possibly even a couple thousand kids.
00:04:03.020 So people are trying to stop that in the UK
00:04:04.820 because there is no need for this.
00:04:06.820 They already have 20 years worth of data.
00:04:08.820 This trial that they're proposing
00:04:10.580 is only going to be two years long.
00:04:12.020 They won't even have long-term information from it.
00:04:14.960 So the fight continues,
00:04:16.280 but I was also just in Brussels last week
00:04:18.260 speaking at the European Parliament
00:04:19.500 where on the continent of Europe,
00:04:21.500 they're not making much progress at all,
00:04:22.900 but I'm teaming up with some
00:04:24.960 American conservative organizations
00:04:26.860 and European conservative organizations
00:04:28.780 to collaborate to help create more awareness
00:04:31.460 in Europe as well.
00:04:32.660 Well, I'm glad you're doing it.
00:04:34.140 And in the UK, you have an,
00:04:36.340 I would call an unlikely ally.
00:04:38.460 I think the number one voice against this insanity
00:04:41.560 is actually someone who would call herself
00:04:43.920 very much pro-gay, pro-gay rights.
00:04:47.620 She just believes in your message,
00:04:49.540 which I think is a very powerful one,
00:04:50.760 the very simple message,
00:04:52.280 no one is born in the wrong body.
00:04:55.300 So she's against the mutilation of children.
00:04:57.900 She's also for the protection of women's spaces.
00:05:00.440 I'm talking, of course,
00:05:01.320 about perhaps the UK's most famous living author,
00:05:05.340 J.K. Rowling.
00:05:06.160 Have you had any interaction with her
00:05:08.520 because she's so powerful,
00:05:10.220 so culturally powerful,
00:05:11.860 and also she's wealthy,
00:05:13.360 so she's not worried about being canceled.
00:05:15.280 I think she's really helped move the needle there.
00:05:17.480 She's made it socially acceptable
00:05:19.520 to oppose transgenderism.
00:05:21.520 Have you had any dealings with her?
00:05:22.840 Or like me,
00:05:23.520 you just sort of watch her with admiration?
00:05:26.780 Yeah, I just watch her with admiration.
00:05:28.480 I haven't had any dealings with her.
00:05:31.020 I would love to, but that's fine.
00:05:32.920 I actually put up a billboard
00:05:34.060 back at the start of my campaign in Vancouver
00:05:36.060 that said,
00:05:36.620 I love J.K. Rowling,
00:05:38.280 following the lead of a woman in the UK
00:05:39.620 who had put up a poster
00:05:40.460 at the Edinburgh train station.
00:05:42.360 And that poster was taken down after one day
00:05:44.020 because people said it was hate speech.
00:05:45.560 And of course,
00:05:46.220 here in crazy Vancouver,
00:05:48.000 the same exact thing happened.
00:05:49.620 And Sarah Kirby Young,
00:05:50.800 a Vancouver City councillor,
00:05:52.200 also declared my billboard to be hate speech.
00:05:54.620 It also lasted just a day.
00:05:57.760 But I then followed that up
00:05:59.920 with a lot of billboards
00:06:00.700 throughout the United States.
00:06:02.400 And then because no sign companies
00:06:03.780 would work with me in Canada,
00:06:05.040 I did what any rational person would do.
00:06:07.440 And I became a human billboard
00:06:08.640 speaking to people all across the country.
00:06:11.220 And I haven't stopped.
00:06:12.340 And it's very successful
00:06:13.200 because every normal person out there,
00:06:16.560 virtually every parent,
00:06:17.460 no matter where they are
00:06:18.160 in the political spectrum,
00:06:19.020 they know their girls are girls
00:06:20.580 and their boys are boys.
00:06:21.520 And we shouldn't be chemically castrating
00:06:23.260 and sterilizing kids.
00:06:24.660 So there's wide support for this.
00:06:27.140 And I wish our politicians in Canada
00:06:28.600 would find a little bit more courage
00:06:29.760 to speak about this
00:06:30.600 because for the Conservative Party,
00:06:32.120 this is a huge winning issue.
00:06:34.500 I think you're right.
00:06:35.580 And I was going to mention one more thing.
00:06:38.520 Amy Hamm, a nurse in Vancouver,
00:06:41.640 supported one of those
00:06:42.960 J.K. Rowling billboards.
00:06:44.640 And it marked the beginning
00:06:46.460 of a multi-year persecution of her
00:06:49.460 by her own professional association.
00:06:52.480 She was basically drummed out of a job as a nurse
00:06:54.740 because she had that political opinion,
00:06:56.700 which is just incredible
00:06:57.700 for saying, I love J.K. Rowling.
00:06:59.580 I mean, just unbelievable.
00:07:00.440 But back to your human billboard.
00:07:04.340 When you have to put something in a billboard,
00:07:06.520 I mean, good billboards are less than 10 words long
00:07:08.940 because typically you're driving by.
00:07:11.220 It's not like a magazine ad
00:07:12.780 where you might stop for a minute and read.
00:07:14.940 So good billboards are short, understandable.
00:07:18.540 Sometimes they don't even have any words.
00:07:20.580 And so when you were forced, I suppose,
00:07:24.260 to wear those sandwich boards and walk around,
00:07:26.840 it really, I think, compelled you
00:07:29.360 to crystallize your message down to the essentials.
00:07:33.340 And you did it so well in such obvious ways
00:07:36.620 that were so hard to dispute.
00:07:38.500 I think just merely showing up,
00:07:41.040 and I see other people copying your sandwich boards too.
00:07:44.020 Give me some of the messages.
00:07:45.080 I mean, some of them have stuck with me.
00:07:47.120 Like, my favorite is,
00:07:48.380 no one is born in the wrong body.
00:07:49.680 And it's just such a plain and obvious
00:07:52.900 and moral thing to say.
00:07:56.180 I think that makes it tough for people to debate with you.
00:07:59.820 So you often get some hostility.
00:08:01.500 Tell me about some of the messages you wear
00:08:03.760 and some of the reactions or criticisms they get.
00:08:07.020 Yeah, my main message is always,
00:08:09.160 children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
00:08:12.320 And that's obviously nothing hateful.
00:08:14.360 It's a rather anodyne message.
00:08:15.780 It might cause confusion in a lot of people.
00:08:17.600 And for me, that's great because I'm out there
00:08:19.300 to start conversations.
00:08:20.900 And so if people are a little unsure about what it means,
00:08:23.880 they come up and they ask about it.
00:08:25.980 And in the beginning of my campaign over five years ago,
00:08:27.800 really nobody had any clue what puberty blockers were.
00:08:30.620 Today, the landscape has completely changed.
00:08:33.480 I get so much support, constant high fives,
00:08:37.120 people honking their horns,
00:08:38.480 tons of support all over the streets of Canada
00:08:40.500 and even the world, wherever I go.
00:08:42.660 So really what I'm out here talking about
00:08:44.900 is the medical abuse of children.
00:08:46.160 And so that's my main message.
00:08:48.280 And then the one I normally have on my back
00:08:49.700 is my definition of a dad,
00:08:51.420 which is a human male who protects his kids
00:08:53.720 from gender ideology.
00:08:55.580 And I think that serves a couple purposes.
00:08:58.460 I also have those signs for moms,
00:09:00.660 but part of my campaign is I really want to get the men going
00:09:03.920 because oftentimes with this sort of activism,
00:09:07.500 it's women who are showing up at school board meetings
00:09:10.720 and doing all that sort of thing.
00:09:12.060 And men don't really know what to do.
00:09:13.920 But I think we really need to fire up the men
00:09:16.380 because men are important.
00:09:17.860 Our voices are important.
00:09:18.740 We've been told we don't matter for so long.
00:09:20.920 And that sign is probably my most popular, I'd say.
00:09:24.020 You know, there's another place where I think men
00:09:26.380 and sometimes women are absent where they shouldn't be.
00:09:29.500 And that is in change rooms
00:09:31.620 or where their kids are participating in a sport
00:09:35.640 or the change room afterwards,
00:09:36.720 and they see a grown man enter the change room
00:09:40.820 clearly in bad faith,
00:09:42.620 not that there would be a good faith excuse to enter.
00:09:45.440 And the moms and the dads have been scared
00:09:48.760 into compliance and submission,
00:09:51.560 which is contrary to every genetic instinct
00:09:54.340 we have to protect our children.
00:09:55.740 Dads, by nature, I think, are protectors.
00:09:59.300 And moms, you know, we hear the phrase grizzly mom.
00:10:02.840 There's no more dangerous place in the world
00:10:05.100 than between a grizzly bear and its cubs.
00:10:07.560 But we've denatured ourselves.
00:10:11.560 And you sometimes even see moms,
00:10:14.580 I guess, as a psychological coping mechanism.
00:10:17.020 It's a kind of Stockholm syndrome.
00:10:18.840 They say, oh, no, we're totally fine with this.
00:10:21.260 You know that they're doing that
00:10:22.660 so they don't break psychologically.
00:10:25.540 So when you encourage dads to enter the debate,
00:10:28.940 you are taking aim at the default,
00:10:33.260 which is the government saying,
00:10:34.440 hey, dads, you speak up, your kid is out.
00:10:38.300 That's right.
00:10:39.160 Men have actually lost custody of their children
00:10:41.280 for speaking up against this,
00:10:43.760 which is just completely outrageous.
00:10:46.120 And you spoke to something very important there.
00:10:48.940 Natural law.
00:10:49.940 This wouldn't exist in the natural world.
00:10:51.820 It wouldn't exist with any other species.
00:10:53.980 If you come to harm any other species,
00:10:57.380 any cub of any mom or dad,
00:11:01.100 they're going to end you.
00:11:03.220 But with this, of course, we can't do that
00:11:05.340 because we live in a civilized culture.
00:11:07.240 So we have to have conversations.
00:11:08.920 We have to slowly change laws.
00:11:10.820 But what's going on is egregious child abuse.
00:11:13.520 It's one of the craziest things
00:11:14.820 that has ever existed in the history of mankind.
00:11:16.860 And we do just need more people to speak up
00:11:20.680 because right now, still,
00:11:23.020 it's the activists from the left
00:11:25.280 who are pushing this agenda.
00:11:27.000 They're the loud ones making all of the noise.
00:11:29.860 And that noise scares people from speaking up.
00:11:32.820 But we shouldn't be scared.
00:11:34.640 It doesn't matter what someone says about you.
00:11:36.460 You know who you are.
00:11:37.300 Your family knows who you are.
00:11:38.580 And what the world says about you is unimportant.
00:11:40.820 So we have to find a little bit more courage
00:11:42.220 and start speaking up for these things that matter.
00:11:44.840 You know, there's one more thing.
00:11:46.300 And I've said this to you before.
00:11:49.460 You're networking at a very high level.
00:11:51.420 I mean, you mentioned you were just
00:11:52.900 at the European Union in Brussels.
00:11:54.420 I know you've been to places
00:11:56.840 where you've met with policymakers, very senior.
00:12:00.720 But, and I think this is the source of your strength,
00:12:03.560 if I may say,
00:12:05.120 you're at the exact opposite end of things as well.
00:12:07.700 You are there on the street for four hours
00:12:11.660 talking to all comers, friendly or hostile.
00:12:16.820 So there's, you're not out of the loop.
00:12:19.400 You are the loop.
00:12:20.840 And tell me a typical day,
00:12:23.180 like you take the sandwich boards,
00:12:25.560 you go to like a place
00:12:26.780 where people are not in a super hurry.
00:12:28.600 Like you go to a, I don't know,
00:12:30.540 like give me an example of how would you describe it?
00:12:34.600 Sort of like an outdoor mall or something
00:12:37.380 or pedestrian, pedestrian street is what I'm saying.
00:12:40.480 Not a super busy downtown place,
00:12:42.160 but a place where people maybe would stop,
00:12:44.000 like a place where buskers might go.
00:12:46.080 Tell me how you select where you go and what you do.
00:12:49.580 Yeah.
00:12:49.980 So I go to a lot of university campuses.
00:12:51.800 That's my number one destination
00:12:53.260 because for me,
00:12:54.520 universities are ground zero
00:12:55.580 for all of these crazy ideologies
00:12:58.060 being pushed out into society.
00:13:00.680 These professors, you can't get rid of them.
00:13:02.720 They're tenured.
00:13:03.400 So the only way to push back
00:13:04.940 and present the alternate narrative
00:13:06.800 on these universities is to be there yourself.
00:13:09.160 So I do that.
00:13:10.620 And I'll just go into a busy part of a downtown core.
00:13:14.100 In Vancouver, I go near the art gallery
00:13:15.620 or the corner of Granville and Georgia
00:13:17.120 where the train station is.
00:13:18.940 I get people from all walks of life.
00:13:22.420 People are just out casually relaxing, shopping.
00:13:25.740 So I just stand there quietly
00:13:28.080 and I wait for someone to come up and speak to me.
00:13:30.300 For me, this is like fishing.
00:13:31.760 I don't approach anybody,
00:13:33.140 but it never takes long
00:13:34.380 for the conversations to start up.
00:13:36.300 And I'll end up speaking continuously
00:13:38.200 for three, four or five hours sometimes,
00:13:40.180 especially when it's busy.
00:13:41.580 And on a university campus,
00:13:43.680 even if I only talk to 10 or 20 people,
00:13:45.600 the thing that's really powerful about going there
00:13:49.300 is all the other kids on those campus see me.
00:13:53.260 So they start having these conversations themselves.
00:13:55.700 They're texting their friends.
00:13:56.900 This becomes a conversation topic
00:13:58.400 for a thousand other students at the university.
00:14:00.720 And then they might go to my website
00:14:02.220 or they might learn more about this.
00:14:04.020 And I think in any certain geographical area,
00:14:06.860 you can change the conversation very quickly
00:14:08.820 just by being consistent, going outside,
00:14:11.060 being professional,
00:14:12.080 not reacting to the provocateurs
00:14:13.840 and just having sane civil conversations.
00:14:17.340 Well, and that's the thing.
00:14:18.140 You are an energy absorber.
00:14:22.380 What I mean by that is you're not coming in,
00:14:24.360 you know, you're not making things more intense.
00:14:28.440 You just talk in a calm manner,
00:14:31.960 which I think takes some of the hostility.
00:14:37.960 I mean, some people would find,
00:14:39.280 I've watched your videos.
00:14:40.500 I know some people find it infuriating
00:14:42.640 because they're hoping to fight with you
00:14:44.000 and you just, you're very methodical.
00:14:47.100 I mean, here's the thing.
00:14:48.140 There's no question you haven't been asked before.
00:14:50.680 You've done hundreds of hours,
00:14:52.380 maybe thousands of hours of this.
00:14:54.640 Someone who comes up to you with a clever quip,
00:14:56.560 you've heard it before.
00:14:57.800 So I think you engage with people.
00:15:01.800 You force them to articulate their view.
00:15:04.480 Often they realize they just have a slogan with no depth.
00:15:07.360 And I don't know, I think you actually wind up talking
00:15:11.260 to the most hostile people
00:15:13.680 because they're the ones who want to come over
00:15:15.200 and sort of show you a thing or two.
00:15:18.720 But I mean, would you agree with me
00:15:21.220 that those are the folks who are often
00:15:23.960 the least intellectually armed
00:15:25.780 and perhaps the most open
00:15:27.520 once you can break through their shell?
00:15:31.160 If they're thinking about it, if they're angry about it,
00:15:33.200 maybe you can break through and have a convert,
00:15:35.460 an ideological convert, does that happen often?
00:15:39.100 Yeah, it definitely happens.
00:15:40.300 But most people, when they're really angry,
00:15:42.060 they're not in a mindset
00:15:43.460 where they're willing to receive information.
00:15:46.020 So my strategy with them is,
00:15:48.140 first, I'll say things that they agree with
00:15:49.720 because that does bring the temperature down.
00:15:51.620 And it also confuses them
00:15:52.820 because they come into this thinking I'm some Nazi.
00:15:55.480 How dare I say children cannot consent to puberty blockers?
00:15:58.060 That's a right-wing fascist talking point, right?
00:16:00.860 So if I say things like, which are true,
00:16:04.420 that there's no right or wrong way to be a girl or a boy,
00:16:07.260 and we shouldn't put kids in some stereotypical box,
00:16:09.780 they all agree with that.
00:16:11.480 The most radical activist on the left
00:16:13.120 agrees that stereotypes don't define our kids.
00:16:16.100 So now I've confused them.
00:16:17.440 I've created this moment of cognitive dissonance
00:16:19.220 where they have two competing ideas going on in their head.
00:16:21.520 They have the confused idea
00:16:22.620 that they thought I was some sort of bigot.
00:16:24.000 And now I'm saying something
00:16:25.760 that they can't help but agree with.
00:16:27.620 And then I'll just ask them questions
00:16:29.340 because really with these people,
00:16:30.820 you need to get them thinking.
00:16:32.160 So the Socratic method of debate,
00:16:34.000 asking questions,
00:16:34.920 getting them to think about these terms
00:16:36.300 that they've accepted.
00:16:38.260 Ask, what does it mean for a girl to be a boy?
00:16:42.260 And then pause.
00:16:43.920 You have to allow them to have this time to think.
00:16:48.020 The whole purpose of a communication
00:16:49.760 is for it to be received and understood.
00:16:52.160 And if you're just continually shelling a person
00:16:54.800 with information,
00:16:55.500 they don't have any time to process.
00:16:58.160 So I'll just ask them questions
00:16:59.800 and they might calm down.
00:17:01.380 They might go home and think about it later.
00:17:03.100 But really the majority of the time
00:17:04.360 I'm speaking with people who do agree with me,
00:17:06.500 I don't post all those conversations
00:17:08.020 because sometimes I need to protect their identities.
00:17:10.100 They don't want it to be seen
00:17:11.080 because especially in Canada,
00:17:12.500 we live in an environment
00:17:13.280 where they might lose their job
00:17:14.920 just for agreeing with this simple truth.
00:17:17.500 Wow.
00:17:17.740 You know, your project reminds me
00:17:22.040 a little bit of Stephen Crowder
00:17:24.020 who would set up a desk in a place
00:17:26.720 like a college campus or a public park
00:17:28.400 and he would have a statement
00:17:29.820 and then say, you know, change my mind.
00:17:33.220 You know, and he would cover a range of topics.
00:17:36.040 He might say, you know,
00:17:37.540 we should have no immigration, change my mind.
00:17:39.940 Like he would have a provocative thing
00:17:41.500 but invite people to change his mind.
00:17:43.740 And that does a few things.
00:17:45.080 First of all, it says, hey, I'm ready to listen to you
00:17:49.280 and I'm telling you in advance
00:17:51.260 that there is a possibility I could change my mind
00:17:53.780 if you're persuaded.
00:17:54.700 It's sort of fun.
00:17:55.580 You know, I actually bumped into him once in the wild
00:17:58.300 and he had a lot of security with him.
00:18:00.620 In this day and age,
00:18:02.000 some people wouldn't want to convince him he's wrong.
00:18:04.780 They'd want to attack him.
00:18:06.420 Unfortunately, we live in that era.
00:18:09.980 You know, Charlie Kirk,
00:18:11.140 his specialty was going into the lion's den
00:18:16.020 and debating all comers.
00:18:17.460 And in the end, one of them murdered him,
00:18:19.040 which is just shocking.
00:18:21.480 But I think what you're doing is sort of a lost art,
00:18:24.640 the lost art of debate
00:18:26.000 because I'd say about 20 years ago,
00:18:27.720 we stopped debating each other
00:18:28.980 and dissidents were canceled.
00:18:31.840 They were not invited onto panels.
00:18:33.700 They were just silenced or canceled
00:18:36.280 or deplatformed or, in some cases, prosecuted.
00:18:42.640 Yes, I've been attacked several times.
00:18:45.920 I had my arm broken once in Montreal.
00:18:48.420 I've been arrested, I guess, three and a half times,
00:18:51.620 put in jail twice in Vancouver in the beginning
00:18:53.420 and recently in Brussels.
00:18:55.700 And I'm taking legal action
00:18:57.120 against five different Belgian authorities on that one.
00:19:00.240 I say a half because I was also moved out
00:19:02.720 of a public square in Australia.
00:19:04.060 I fought back on that in one as well.
00:19:06.520 So I've dealt with police more than 300 times,
00:19:08.520 to be honest, and I have no charges.
00:19:10.820 So I know what I'm doing out there
00:19:13.640 and they don't really have anything
00:19:16.240 that they can do with me
00:19:17.520 when I'm just standing quietly,
00:19:19.520 having conversations with those who want to have them.
00:19:22.260 But it is a dangerous scenario.
00:19:24.760 We just had a couple of kids killed
00:19:26.200 at Brown University this week.
00:19:27.920 And that one hit home for me
00:19:29.120 because I've spent about five days at Brown.
00:19:30.800 And it's such a leftist university.
00:19:35.580 I ran into one of the young women there
00:19:37.520 that was involved in their Republican club
00:19:39.440 a few years ago.
00:19:41.060 And there's probably only 20 conservatives
00:19:43.360 on that campus.
00:19:44.660 And now one, this beautiful young woman
00:19:46.840 with a bright future ahead of her,
00:19:48.820 just had her life tragically ended.
00:19:51.080 And you know what?
00:19:51.860 That could be me.
00:19:52.660 I could be standing on a campus that day
00:19:54.200 when one of these people shows up.
00:19:55.440 So it hit home.
00:19:58.120 I need to be careful,
00:19:58.920 but I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing
00:20:00.680 because thousands of kids are coming to harm
00:20:03.000 and we can't allow violence to silence us.
00:20:06.380 So I opened a nonprofit in the United States.
00:20:09.180 Hopefully I'll be able to raise some money in that
00:20:10.580 and hire security from time to time.
00:20:13.540 But I have other more important things to fund right now.
00:20:16.680 What's your nonprofit called
00:20:18.200 and how can people visit it?
00:20:19.860 Like your website?
00:20:21.440 Yeah, it's wespeaktruth.com.
00:20:23.360 It's the We Speak Truth Foundation.
00:20:24.660 So it's tax deductible for Americans.
00:20:27.060 It's 501c3.
00:20:28.460 Anyone can donate to it, of course.
00:20:30.600 And that does help,
00:20:31.500 but it is just tax deductible for Americans.
00:20:34.640 And that basically covers your travel costs
00:20:37.480 and things like that?
00:20:38.740 Yeah, that'll cover my travel security.
00:20:40.920 We're going to be doing town halls,
00:20:42.840 university speaking events.
00:20:45.440 Basically, the more money that comes in,
00:20:47.760 the more things we're going to be able to do
00:20:49.040 because I have a lot of great ideas.
00:20:50.360 I can do a lot more than just stand on the street,
00:20:53.040 but I need to hire some people.
00:20:54.840 Some people who can help with international media,
00:20:56.960 with print media, social media,
00:20:58.800 video editors, things like that.
00:21:01.980 Now, the 501c3,
00:21:03.900 that's what the IRS tax code calls a charity.
00:21:10.100 Will you also be doing stuff in Canada?
00:21:12.540 I'm sure you will.
00:21:13.880 I just want to confirm that.
00:21:15.540 So if a Canadian chips in,
00:21:17.840 they wouldn't get a useful tax credit,
00:21:19.820 but will you still be touring in Canada too?
00:21:25.280 I will be.
00:21:26.040 And so this 501c3,
00:21:27.300 it's really for me to continue this fight globally.
00:21:30.160 So it's not just for work that I do in the US.
00:21:31.880 It's for work everywhere.
00:21:33.160 Right.
00:21:34.080 I probably should open a Canadian non-profit.
00:21:37.540 So it's something for me to look at.
00:21:38.940 It's not on my radar right now,
00:21:40.940 but if there's demand for that,
00:21:43.200 then I would do it for sure.
00:21:45.020 Well, you're so busy.
00:21:46.080 I mean, like I say,
00:21:46.920 on the one hand,
00:21:47.880 you have very high level meetings with policymakers.
00:21:49.820 On the other hand,
00:21:51.100 you'll literally talk to anyone on the street for half an hour.
00:21:55.580 You know, I mean, it's quite unusual what you do.
00:21:59.060 I've got a question for you.
00:22:00.700 And I was reminded of it the other day
00:22:02.560 when we interviewed someone in Markham, Ontario,
00:22:05.780 who had a fairly thick Chinese accent,
00:22:08.100 but she said she was very concerned
00:22:10.540 about out-of-control immigration.
00:22:12.720 And you might think,
00:22:13.820 well, that's a contradiction.
00:22:14.640 Well, no, not really.
00:22:15.780 Because someone who came to Canada legally
00:22:17.780 and is frustrated by the overwhelming
00:22:20.520 and fraudulent asylum seekers, for example,
00:22:23.000 or fake students,
00:22:24.240 they would be mad,
00:22:25.640 even though they themselves are an immigrant.
00:22:27.400 And I thought, shame on me
00:22:28.840 for maybe having a stereotype
00:22:31.520 that she would not be against immigration.
00:22:34.060 I mean, I guess because there was some cognitive dissonance.
00:22:36.720 I got a question for you about this same thing.
00:22:39.980 And I'm just going to throw it out there.
00:22:41.320 You tell me if I'm right or wrong.
00:22:43.900 Some people in Hollywood,
00:22:46.260 I forget the particular star,
00:22:49.500 has two, three trans kids.
00:22:52.720 And I think, you know, that is not random.
00:22:56.820 That is the result of a sort of a luxury belief
00:23:02.640 by a white liberal
00:23:04.000 that having a trans kid is sort of something
00:23:06.840 that you show off to friends,
00:23:08.640 like having a collection or something.
00:23:11.180 And I want to know if your experience,
00:23:14.180 the people who support transgenderism
00:23:16.580 are sort of well-to-do liberals
00:23:19.660 who have first world problems.
00:23:23.880 Contrast that with, say, a new Canadian
00:23:25.940 or a new American immigrant,
00:23:27.340 perhaps from an ethnic background,
00:23:28.920 who's more focused on,
00:23:30.420 I got to succeed in America.
00:23:32.140 I got to succeed in Canada.
00:23:33.380 I got to pay the bills.
00:23:34.420 I want to raise my kids
00:23:35.380 and want them to go to a good school.
00:23:36.420 Like, I just wonder
00:23:37.200 if you see that this is a luxury issue
00:23:40.780 by wealthy, you know,
00:23:44.120 women who lunch,
00:23:45.280 ladies who lunch kind of thing.
00:23:46.780 I don't know.
00:23:47.500 I don't think I put my question
00:23:48.540 too clearly to you,
00:23:50.120 but is there...
00:23:50.580 I understand.
00:23:51.160 Go ahead.
00:23:53.080 Yes.
00:23:53.600 So I basically have 100% support
00:23:56.380 from the immigrant communities,
00:23:58.040 Hispanic communities.
00:23:59.400 Of course, this isn't happening
00:24:00.640 in the Muslim community at all.
00:24:01.700 It's not happening
00:24:02.160 in the Chinese community.
00:24:03.420 It's not happening with the Hispanics.
00:24:05.060 This is really pushed 90% of the time
00:24:09.020 by young white women.
00:24:12.080 And I don't even like saying that
00:24:13.760 because I don't want to upset
00:24:14.660 the ladies out there,
00:24:15.620 but it's true.
00:24:16.680 And so truth is truth.
00:24:18.620 All of these young women
00:24:19.840 going to university,
00:24:21.840 taking women's studies
00:24:22.760 or gender studies,
00:24:23.740 as they're now called,
00:24:24.980 feminist studies,
00:24:25.900 they're all coming out of university
00:24:27.320 with the belief that
00:24:28.340 people are transgender
00:24:29.620 and that kids are going to
00:24:32.080 commit suicide
00:24:32.880 if we don't transition them.
00:24:33.960 They believe puberty block
00:24:34.860 is reversible.
00:24:35.600 They fall for all these lies
00:24:36.680 that are taught to them.
00:24:38.080 And I understand that
00:24:39.140 because they're being taught
00:24:39.840 by authority figures
00:24:40.640 in their life,
00:24:41.160 university professors.
00:24:42.820 But this is a suicidal empathy
00:24:45.340 all across the West,
00:24:47.180 not just on this issue,
00:24:48.160 but all sorts of issues.
00:24:49.360 And unfortunately,
00:24:50.960 empathy often comes from women
00:24:52.120 and it's a beautiful thing
00:24:52.960 when it's used correctly.
00:24:54.960 But bad actors
00:24:57.220 are taking advantage
00:24:58.440 of women's natural empathy
00:24:59.440 and they're lying to them
00:25:01.100 and they're indoctrinating
00:25:01.940 a generation.
00:25:03.020 So this is one more reason
00:25:04.660 why it's so important
00:25:05.320 to do this on universities.
00:25:07.580 Suicidal empathy,
00:25:08.440 that's a phrase Gad Saad uses.
00:25:10.020 I think you're right.
00:25:12.460 It's also a kind of projection.
00:25:14.360 I mean, occasionally you see
00:25:15.520 someone on Instagram
00:25:17.160 or something
00:25:17.820 who says,
00:25:19.420 my dog is vegetarian.
00:25:21.200 I'm feeding my dog.
00:25:22.780 And it's projecting.
00:25:24.700 A dog needs meat.
00:25:26.280 You know,
00:25:27.000 they're called canines.
00:25:28.200 Our teeth are called canines
00:25:29.820 for a reason.
00:25:30.780 You know,
00:25:30.940 it's designed to eat meat.
00:25:32.140 To force a dog
00:25:33.500 to be vegan
00:25:35.080 because you are
00:25:36.260 is,
00:25:37.080 I think there's an analogy there.
00:25:39.840 It's not a very good one.
00:25:41.180 But you,
00:25:42.040 I think what's happening
00:25:42.840 is these liberal,
00:25:44.240 progressive women
00:25:45.880 want their child
00:25:48.300 to be an expression
00:25:49.220 of their ideology
00:25:50.700 as opposed to
00:25:51.780 the child's own biology.
00:25:53.800 And as you say,
00:25:54.400 children can't choose
00:25:55.400 puberty blockers,
00:25:56.620 very,
00:25:56.940 it's a very crazy thing.
00:25:58.480 Let me ask you,
00:25:59.260 I started off by talking
00:26:00.320 about how Donald Trump
00:26:01.220 really sees the lead.
00:26:02.840 And I think
00:26:03.440 that was an issue
00:26:05.360 that's one of those
00:26:05.880 80-20 issues
00:26:07.100 where 80% of people
00:26:08.940 are on side,
00:26:09.620 even if they're not going
00:26:10.320 to say so out loud.
00:26:11.560 It cuts beyond
00:26:12.880 partisan divides.
00:26:14.180 Like I bet you
00:26:14.880 that the majority of people,
00:26:16.320 even in liberal cities,
00:26:17.440 agrees with this.
00:26:18.640 And for Trump to come in
00:26:20.020 and be the defender of women
00:26:21.820 was quite something
00:26:23.280 that I think it was
00:26:24.160 as J.K. Rowling herself
00:26:25.600 noted,
00:26:26.360 it was a missed opportunity
00:26:27.460 for Democrats.
00:26:30.140 In Canada,
00:26:32.300 there has not been
00:26:33.400 the same courage
00:26:34.240 except, I dare say,
00:26:36.540 in Alberta
00:26:37.120 under Premier Danielle Smith.
00:26:38.320 Have I missed someone?
00:26:39.540 Is there another Premier
00:26:40.460 who's taken a hardline stance?
00:26:42.580 I think in Nova Scotia
00:26:43.700 they tried to
00:26:44.980 but lost an election
00:26:46.000 or something.
00:26:46.500 Maybe I'm wrong there.
00:26:47.540 Is there any champion
00:26:49.120 for women's rights
00:26:50.220 and women's spaces
00:26:51.080 in Canada
00:26:52.360 other than Danielle Smith?
00:26:54.980 Only Danielle Smith.
00:26:56.040 Really.
00:26:56.620 Give me your thoughts.
00:26:57.480 I'm sure you've read
00:26:58.420 her policy.
00:26:59.680 I wouldn't be surprised
00:27:00.560 if you consulted,
00:27:01.900 if you were consulted on it.
00:27:03.360 Give me your thoughts
00:27:03.940 on what Alberta's doing.
00:27:06.040 So Danielle Smith's ban
00:27:07.980 on this
00:27:08.700 is no more puberty blockers
00:27:10.760 or cross-text hormones
00:27:11.440 for children
00:27:12.120 under 16 years of age.
00:27:14.480 And I'm glad
00:27:15.280 they're doing this.
00:27:16.120 It's an improvement.
00:27:17.480 It is, however,
00:27:18.440 a half measure
00:27:19.400 because we shouldn't
00:27:20.840 be harming
00:27:21.280 all these 16
00:27:22.040 and 17-year-olds either.
00:27:23.700 They're the only jurisdiction
00:27:24.620 in the world
00:27:25.200 where they,
00:27:25.760 when they put this ban
00:27:26.420 into effect,
00:27:27.520 did it for just kids
00:27:28.380 15 and under.
00:27:29.760 And the trans activists
00:27:30.600 get just as mad
00:27:31.380 if you do this
00:27:31.800 for under 19
00:27:32.480 compared to
00:27:33.640 if you do it
00:27:34.040 for under 16.
00:27:35.000 So they should just
00:27:36.560 extend that ban
00:27:37.580 to everyone
00:27:38.100 at least 18 and under
00:27:39.120 in my opinion.
00:27:40.320 But it is a great first step.
00:27:42.260 It starts a lot
00:27:42.920 of conversations.
00:27:44.480 Of course,
00:27:45.100 a judge tried
00:27:45.800 to block this right away.
00:27:47.140 So she's doing what
00:27:48.880 honestly is one
00:27:50.380 of the best parts
00:27:50.960 of our Charter
00:27:51.540 of Rights and Freedoms
00:27:52.220 in my opinion.
00:27:53.260 She's invoking
00:27:54.000 the Notwithstanding Clause.
00:27:55.920 So the Notwithstanding Clause
00:27:57.120 enables the Premier
00:27:58.900 or the Prime Minister
00:27:59.680 to basically overrule
00:28:01.520 a judge for five years
00:28:02.780 because we shouldn't
00:28:04.280 be ruled by judges.
00:28:05.920 When we elect a politician
00:28:07.400 and they put into place
00:28:08.660 policies that we elected
00:28:09.820 them to put into place,
00:28:11.220 we shouldn't have judges
00:28:12.340 stopping that
00:28:13.120 because then that's
00:28:14.140 the end of democracy.
00:28:15.320 And all of our judiciary
00:28:16.540 has been trained
00:28:17.480 by trans activists
00:28:18.580 to look at this
00:28:19.360 in only one way.
00:28:21.060 And we have all
00:28:21.520 these human rights codes
00:28:22.420 and we even have
00:28:22.960 federal laws
00:28:23.640 banning parents
00:28:25.660 from protecting their kids.
00:28:27.100 If the child thinks
00:28:28.060 they're transgender,
00:28:28.900 you're not allowed
00:28:29.460 to say no, sweetheart.
00:28:31.320 You're really just a girl
00:28:32.360 and we're not going
00:28:33.320 to go along with this.
00:28:34.340 That could technically
00:28:35.300 have them charged
00:28:36.120 with conversion therapy.
00:28:38.480 So everything's
00:28:39.780 just upside down.
00:28:40.660 She's leading the way
00:28:41.500 and hopefully
00:28:42.020 there's a contagion effect
00:28:43.680 to other politicians
00:28:44.680 where they find the courage
00:28:45.620 to tackle this as well.
00:28:47.840 Well, I want to let you know
00:28:48.820 that Rebel News
00:28:49.500 is the proud publisher
00:28:50.740 of a book called
00:28:52.440 Buck the Rainbow Unicorn.
00:28:54.640 I don't know
00:28:55.080 if you've heard of that.
00:28:56.060 Our talent,
00:28:57.860 Lise Merle,
00:28:59.100 has published that book
00:29:00.060 and it became
00:29:01.620 the number one
00:29:02.340 best-selling
00:29:02.940 LGBTQSL plus book
00:29:06.060 in Canada.
00:29:08.000 I think some of the people
00:29:09.120 who bought it
00:29:09.800 didn't realize
00:29:10.880 that the book resolves,
00:29:12.520 I shouldn't give away
00:29:13.320 the spoiler here,
00:29:14.560 in a way that you,
00:29:15.900 I think,
00:29:16.160 would say,
00:29:16.560 yeah, I mean,
00:29:17.480 you know,
00:29:17.740 kids can be confused
00:29:18.740 for a bit in their life,
00:29:19.780 but don't chop them up
00:29:20.860 because I won't give away
00:29:21.760 the ending,
00:29:22.740 but I should tell our viewers
00:29:24.300 you can find out more
00:29:25.580 at BuckTheRainbowUnicorn.com
00:29:28.560 and Chris,
00:29:29.260 I think we'll have
00:29:29.740 to send you a copy.
00:29:31.000 I'd love for you
00:29:31.640 to review the book.
00:29:32.940 Anyhow,
00:29:33.180 that was just a little plug
00:29:34.260 for giving me.
00:29:35.540 I got a question for you.
00:29:36.820 I remember before
00:29:37.600 Elon Musk took over Twitter,
00:29:39.620 I was careful
00:29:40.940 because I didn't want to,
00:29:42.020 I mean,
00:29:42.220 I got,
00:29:42.660 I don't know,
00:29:43.400 half a million followers
00:29:44.320 on Twitter,
00:29:44.900 which is a powerful tool,
00:29:46.320 so I didn't want to
00:29:47.140 get suspended
00:29:48.140 unless it was
00:29:49.380 for a very important reason.
00:29:50.660 One of the things
00:29:51.220 I noticed
00:29:51.840 is that I would be suspended
00:29:53.520 if I misgendered someone,
00:29:58.260 which means
00:29:58.780 calling a biological male
00:30:00.440 a man
00:30:00.880 instead of what
00:30:01.460 they claim to be,
00:30:02.380 or if I deadnamed someone,
00:30:05.300 that is,
00:30:05.660 call someone their name
00:30:06.800 that their mama gave them
00:30:07.800 as opposed to
00:30:08.640 their adopted stage name.
00:30:10.600 And I want to tell you,
00:30:12.360 Chris,
00:30:12.600 that I've tweeted
00:30:13.560 an enormous amount
00:30:15.840 in my life
00:30:16.300 about every possible subject,
00:30:18.120 and I can tell you
00:30:19.340 that no other issue,
00:30:20.980 not Islamophobia,
00:30:22.860 not homophobia,
00:30:24.660 not xenophobia,
00:30:26.380 nothing would be
00:30:28.720 as rigorously,
00:30:29.960 vigorously,
00:30:30.500 and speedily
00:30:31.400 attended to
00:30:32.880 other than those
00:30:33.860 trans transgressions.
00:30:36.120 Like,
00:30:36.820 they would catch it
00:30:38.520 within 20 minutes
00:30:40.340 and suspend you.
00:30:42.300 I've never seen
00:30:43.360 anything so vigorous.
00:30:44.760 Why and how
00:30:45.880 did the trans lobby
00:30:48.400 become so urgent
00:30:49.480 and powerful?
00:30:50.200 I just don't get it.
00:30:51.420 It's like it came
00:30:52.020 out of nowhere
00:30:52.540 10 years ago,
00:30:53.660 and it became
00:30:54.600 the most vicious
00:30:55.420 censorship force
00:30:56.420 that I experienced.
00:30:57.840 And believe me,
00:30:58.220 I've experienced
00:30:58.680 a lot of censorship
00:30:59.360 in my life.
00:31:00.240 Can you explain
00:31:01.160 that for me?
00:31:03.020 Sure.
00:31:03.640 So really,
00:31:04.280 the sexual revolution
00:31:05.080 started 60 years ago,
00:31:06.280 and it wasn't
00:31:07.420 until about 2015
00:31:08.460 all across the world
00:31:09.440 that they won
00:31:10.460 gay rights.
00:31:12.080 And so what happens
00:31:13.340 to all of these
00:31:14.020 non-profits?
00:31:15.680 They don't just
00:31:17.140 close the doors.
00:31:18.260 They keep going,
00:31:19.280 and they made
00:31:19.700 their new objective
00:31:20.480 trans rights.
00:31:21.680 So we have billions
00:31:22.500 of dollars
00:31:23.100 from all these NGOs,
00:31:25.580 from the UN,
00:31:26.820 from the World Health
00:31:27.480 Organization,
00:31:28.600 from certain
00:31:29.320 billionaires themselves
00:31:30.380 just donating,
00:31:32.120 and of course,
00:31:32.860 from governments.
00:31:33.840 We have the Canadian
00:31:34.500 government has sent,
00:31:35.420 I think,
00:31:35.640 about $12 billion
00:31:36.440 overseas on
00:31:37.680 gender equity initiatives.
00:31:39.640 We have the US
00:31:40.440 government,
00:31:41.500 especially under
00:31:42.060 the Biden and Obama
00:31:43.100 administration,
00:31:44.280 where they were
00:31:44.840 sending tens of
00:31:46.360 billions of dollars
00:31:47.080 overseas to
00:31:47.900 universities,
00:31:48.580 et cetera.
00:31:49.720 And so this has not
00:31:50.660 been an organic
00:31:51.420 movement at all.
00:31:52.840 This has been
00:31:53.400 entirely orchestrated
00:31:55.140 and funded
00:31:56.080 in a concerted effort
00:31:57.500 from the left.
00:31:58.680 And as soon as
00:31:59.520 we start pushing
00:32:00.140 back against it,
00:32:01.480 all of this money
00:32:03.600 and all of this
00:32:04.320 power and all
00:32:05.080 of these zealots
00:32:06.160 start fighting back.
00:32:08.940 And they don't
00:32:09.660 like losing
00:32:10.300 because they've
00:32:11.000 never lost anything
00:32:11.880 for 60 years.
00:32:12.840 All they've been
00:32:13.200 doing is winning.
00:32:14.040 And for the first
00:32:14.640 time,
00:32:14.940 we're actually
00:32:15.340 pushing back
00:32:16.000 on one of their
00:32:16.540 agendas because
00:32:17.580 they went too far,
00:32:18.920 saying that children
00:32:19.580 are transgender,
00:32:20.440 that they were born
00:32:20.880 in the wrong body.
00:32:22.100 Well, all sorts of
00:32:22.800 people from the left
00:32:23.420 don't agree with that
00:32:24.020 either.
00:32:24.600 But the short answer
00:32:25.640 is there's a ton
00:32:26.580 of money up against
00:32:27.860 us.
00:32:28.520 Tens of billions
00:32:29.280 of dollars.
00:32:29.880 And what do we have?
00:32:31.020 We have parents
00:32:31.600 like myself leading
00:32:32.600 the charge with
00:32:33.640 no money at all.
00:32:34.640 But we have
00:32:35.120 something they don't
00:32:35.700 have.
00:32:35.940 We have the truth.
00:32:36.840 And I always say
00:32:37.500 the truth spreads
00:32:38.040 for free and it's
00:32:39.600 going to keep
00:32:40.180 spreading because
00:32:41.180 people know that
00:32:41.820 they've gone too far.
00:32:42.800 But they conflated
00:32:43.740 the T with the LGB
00:32:44.920 and that brought
00:32:46.140 them so much success.
00:32:47.620 It brought them
00:32:47.980 so much money.
00:32:48.780 And it also brought
00:32:49.580 them fear because
00:32:50.880 they were able to
00:32:51.480 instill fear in
00:32:52.720 anyone who speaks
00:32:53.420 out against it.
00:32:54.360 But we have to
00:32:54.860 eliminate that because
00:32:55.680 this isn't about
00:32:56.320 gay.
00:32:56.960 This is about
00:32:57.460 something entirely
00:32:58.140 different.
00:32:58.580 This is a denial of
00:32:59.400 reality and attack
00:33:00.240 on our kids.
00:33:01.260 I can just imagine
00:33:02.460 all the money in
00:33:03.500 the surgeries and
00:33:04.960 the pharmaceuticals
00:33:06.220 and the hormones.
00:33:07.460 I mean it is an
00:33:08.560 industry.
00:33:09.440 Let me ask you one
00:33:10.100 last question.
00:33:11.160 And I think it's
00:33:13.760 a legitimate story
00:33:14.820 because the person
00:33:16.400 in question told
00:33:19.400 her story publicly
00:33:20.960 became a bit of an
00:33:21.820 advocate, an activist,
00:33:23.760 a campaigner.
00:33:24.480 So this was not a
00:33:25.240 private decision
00:33:26.100 by a private person.
00:33:27.460 This was a decision
00:33:28.360 made by someone
00:33:29.760 and then publicized
00:33:31.900 vigorously by the
00:33:33.940 person in question.
00:33:34.580 I'm talking about
00:33:36.160 the daughter of
00:33:36.940 Mark Carney.
00:33:38.740 And I understand
00:33:40.220 from, it was actually
00:33:42.100 our friends over at
00:33:43.560 Juneau News who did
00:33:44.440 the story, that Mark
00:33:46.480 Carney's daughter has
00:33:47.320 gone all the way.
00:33:48.520 I think she's had
00:33:49.260 the surgery.
00:33:50.960 And I don't have the
00:33:52.200 story in front of me
00:33:52.760 but I think she got a
00:33:53.600 mastectomy.
00:33:54.480 And she's talked
00:33:56.540 about it publicly.
00:33:57.320 So this is not
00:33:58.140 picking on someone's
00:33:59.220 family.
00:33:59.560 I don't think it is.
00:34:00.400 I think it's a
00:34:01.300 reference to an
00:34:01.860 activist who happens
00:34:02.600 to be the daughter
00:34:03.220 of the Prime Minister
00:34:03.980 who obviously, I
00:34:06.120 don't know, was fine
00:34:06.740 with it, supported it.
00:34:09.320 He hasn't really
00:34:10.100 talked about it a lot.
00:34:11.860 What does it mean
00:34:12.940 that the Prime
00:34:13.580 Minister's own child
00:34:14.880 went under the most
00:34:16.220 radical transformation
00:34:17.820 possible, surgery?
00:34:20.240 So I have a bit of a
00:34:22.040 contrarian take on this
00:34:23.120 for a lot of
00:34:23.600 Conservatives.
00:34:25.120 And I'd say the
00:34:26.020 jury is out on Mark
00:34:27.080 Carney's opinion on
00:34:28.080 this.
00:34:28.740 Of course, he virtue
00:34:29.680 signals for LGBTQ,
00:34:31.240 et cetera, at press
00:34:33.080 conferences and
00:34:33.640 everything.
00:34:34.040 But he was asked a
00:34:34.720 question by Juneau
00:34:35.500 News leading up to
00:34:36.580 the election.
00:34:37.080 He was asked how
00:34:37.640 many genders are
00:34:38.860 there.
00:34:39.640 And he sort of
00:34:40.200 fumbled his answer
00:34:40.920 like he does.
00:34:41.900 But then he said
00:34:42.440 there are two sexes,
00:34:43.720 which is actually a
00:34:44.780 good answer.
00:34:45.220 And then he moved on.
00:34:46.780 And so I look at
00:34:47.740 this, I try to see
00:34:48.840 the humanity in
00:34:49.580 people.
00:34:50.500 He's a dad.
00:34:51.980 His daughter went to
00:34:52.960 the Tavistock when he
00:34:53.860 was the governor of
00:34:57.160 the Bank of England
00:34:57.820 and he was living in
00:34:58.800 London.
00:34:59.480 She wasn't
00:35:00.080 medicalized.
00:35:00.940 She didn't receive
00:35:01.460 puberty blockers across
00:35:02.320 sex hormones at the
00:35:03.260 Tavistock, but she was
00:35:04.160 going there.
00:35:05.040 This was back when
00:35:05.920 they were also just
00:35:06.780 doing psychological
00:35:07.780 assessments.
00:35:09.340 And I don't think
00:35:10.080 it's been reported on,
00:35:11.060 but she did receive a
00:35:11.960 double mastectomy when
00:35:12.780 she was at Yale as an
00:35:14.040 adult.
00:35:14.760 Okay.
00:35:15.080 And so I think just
00:35:17.100 from my dad hat, as a
00:35:18.660 father, he cannot
00:35:19.620 possibly like that his
00:35:21.440 daughter had her breasts
00:35:23.020 removed as a young
00:35:24.640 woman.
00:35:25.260 What dad can like that?
00:35:27.780 And I just think given
00:35:29.120 how he's tried to ignore
00:35:30.820 this issue, given the
00:35:32.220 answer to that one
00:35:33.020 question, we don't
00:35:34.280 really know where he
00:35:35.060 stands.
00:35:35.780 And we have Labour
00:35:37.020 government in England
00:35:38.440 that stopped puberty
00:35:39.560 blockers.
00:35:40.200 We have the SNP
00:35:41.280 government in Scotland.
00:35:42.400 These are radical
00:35:43.280 leftist governments where
00:35:45.020 they stopped it.
00:35:46.180 And sometimes I think
00:35:47.080 maybe Mark Carney, kind
00:35:48.780 of like how he axed the
00:35:49.940 tax when Pierre had been
00:35:51.200 campaigning on axing the
00:35:52.260 tax for three years.
00:35:53.720 I know he's changed it
00:35:55.160 and done more carbon tax
00:35:56.360 on the industrial side,
00:35:57.840 but it's not out of the
00:35:59.580 realm of possibility that
00:36:01.300 he would one day say,
00:36:03.020 look at all these
00:36:03.880 systematic reviews.
00:36:04.820 Look what they've done in
00:36:05.480 England.
00:36:05.800 Look what they've now done
00:36:06.520 in New Zealand.
00:36:08.080 There isn't evidence for
00:36:09.360 this.
00:36:10.000 But we just haven't moved
00:36:11.340 the Overton window, I
00:36:12.160 think, far enough in
00:36:13.180 Canada for him to feel
00:36:14.040 comfortable doing that if
00:36:15.060 that is what he wants to
00:36:15.960 do.
00:36:16.480 But it wouldn't surprise me
00:36:17.500 at all because I think
00:36:18.840 all governments in this
00:36:19.740 world are eventually going
00:36:20.560 to come to reason because
00:36:21.540 the more people learn
00:36:22.680 what's going on, it's just
00:36:24.140 become such a losing
00:36:25.020 issue.
00:36:25.620 We just need to make it
00:36:26.660 safe sometimes for these
00:36:27.720 politicians to take
00:36:28.600 action.
00:36:29.680 Yeah.
00:36:30.120 One last question.
00:36:31.080 I know I said that
00:36:32.000 already, but one of the
00:36:33.880 things I like about what
00:36:34.960 you do on the street is I
00:36:37.940 think it can be replicated.
00:36:40.200 The signs.
00:36:41.500 Now, you've had an
00:36:42.440 enormous amount of
00:36:43.180 training.
00:36:43.680 You've figured it out on
00:36:44.520 your own.
00:36:45.580 You've done hundreds or
00:36:46.660 maybe thousands of hours
00:36:47.740 of it.
00:36:48.420 But I think someone who
00:36:49.640 was well-informed, who
00:36:51.440 went out there day after
00:36:52.880 day and practiced
00:36:54.600 debating, I think there
00:36:56.480 could be mini-me's.
00:36:57.840 There could be Chris
00:36:58.540 Elston mini-me's out
00:36:59.980 there.
00:37:02.080 In fact, I think I've
00:37:03.000 seen other people.
00:37:03.880 I've seen people with
00:37:04.740 similar signs to you.
00:37:06.600 Do you ever train
00:37:08.400 people?
00:37:09.060 Is that something
00:37:09.640 WeSpeakTruth.com might
00:37:11.660 do is train people?
00:37:12.980 Like, I know Al Gore, he
00:37:14.480 had that movie, An
00:37:15.540 Inconvenient Truth, and
00:37:16.620 he would sort of give a
00:37:17.760 PowerPoint lecture about
00:37:18.780 global warming.
00:37:19.620 And he had sort of a
00:37:21.200 school where he would
00:37:23.040 train other people to
00:37:24.900 give that same
00:37:25.880 presentation in his
00:37:27.660 stead and what the
00:37:29.400 questions and
00:37:30.000 objections are.
00:37:30.780 So there's only one
00:37:32.000 Al Gore, and he could
00:37:33.060 only be at so many
00:37:34.420 events a year.
00:37:35.180 But if Al Gore could
00:37:36.520 train a hundred or a
00:37:39.280 thousand mini-me's, he
00:37:41.400 could really be a force
00:37:42.720 multiplier, and they
00:37:43.420 would all have the
00:37:44.420 blessing of the great
00:37:45.780 Al Gore.
00:37:46.880 Is that something you've
00:37:47.760 considered?
00:37:48.220 Are you just too busy?
00:37:49.260 Or if you maybe get some
00:37:50.660 dough at WeSpeakTruth.com,
00:37:52.240 maybe you could get a
00:37:52.820 little school going or
00:37:54.360 something, like a weekend
00:37:55.640 seminar on how to do it?
00:37:58.420 I would absolutely do
00:37:59.560 that.
00:37:59.760 Now, to be honest, street
00:38:01.200 activism isn't for most
00:38:02.560 people.
00:38:03.300 You have to have a
00:38:06.740 certain innate ability to
00:38:09.700 just take a whole bunch of
00:38:11.260 crap and not react to it.
00:38:13.580 Because as soon as you start
00:38:14.700 reacting, you're losing.
00:38:16.340 Right.
00:38:17.040 But what I've been doing
00:38:18.320 this whole time, I consider
00:38:19.780 this campaign an educational
00:38:20.940 campaign.
00:38:21.540 So I'm always trying to
00:38:22.480 educate people how to talk
00:38:23.460 on this issue.
00:38:24.340 I record these conversations,
00:38:25.640 I post them to social media,
00:38:26.820 they get seen millions of
00:38:27.660 times now, and that educates
00:38:29.460 people how to talk about
00:38:30.420 this.
00:38:31.560 So what I do when I do public
00:38:34.100 speaking or whatever, that's
00:38:34.960 what it's always about.
00:38:35.940 I do think a formal weekend
00:38:39.060 session where I teach people
00:38:40.440 how to handle objections and
00:38:41.620 all that would be beneficial.
00:38:44.520 But when it comes to the
00:38:45.640 street stuff, that's always
00:38:47.460 going to be a very small
00:38:49.960 handful of people that are
00:38:51.140 comfortable doing that.
00:38:51.900 But I do encourage it because
00:38:53.280 for me, the reason I started
00:38:55.100 doing that is because we have
00:38:56.260 to get out of our echo
00:38:57.100 chambers.
00:38:57.660 We can't just do this on
00:38:58.820 social media.
00:39:00.120 Social media is a terrible
00:39:00.980 place for having conversations.
00:39:02.520 That's a great place for
00:39:03.480 educating people, but not for
00:39:04.660 having conversations.
00:39:05.880 And as human beings, we have
00:39:08.000 to get back to natural law
00:39:09.780 again.
00:39:10.280 We need to talk to people
00:39:11.420 face to face.
00:39:12.420 That's how we're meant to
00:39:13.400 communicate.
00:39:14.420 And that's how we do bring
00:39:16.900 about change in the world.
00:39:18.000 It's always been the way.
00:39:19.560 It's always been street
00:39:20.440 activism, whether it's Martin
00:39:22.420 Luther King or Mahatma
00:39:23.480 Gandhi or whoever.
00:39:24.860 Throughout history, Jesus
00:39:26.380 Christ himself was preaching
00:39:27.940 out on the streets.
00:39:29.440 So we always have to take
00:39:31.000 this straight to the people.
00:39:32.320 And the only way to do that
00:39:33.440 is to go outside.
00:39:35.160 Well, I tell you, you've
00:39:36.240 made an enormous difference.
00:39:37.400 And I think you really have
00:39:39.040 been indispensable in this
00:39:40.180 battle.
00:39:40.380 And you've shown the way.
00:39:41.700 Congratulations on everything
00:39:42.740 you've achieved.
00:39:43.280 Good luck in your travels.
00:39:44.760 I'll keep our eyes peeled for
00:39:46.680 WeSpeakTruth.com.
00:39:48.020 And for anyone who wants to
00:39:48.920 chip in, I'd encourage them
00:39:50.480 to go there.
00:39:51.340 In fact, I think I'm going to
00:39:52.120 go there myself.
00:39:53.340 Chris, good luck.
00:39:54.040 Thanks for being with us.
00:39:55.300 Thank you.
00:39:56.200 All right.
00:39:56.840 There it is.
00:39:58.420 That's it from all of us here
00:39:59.980 at Rebel World Headquarters
00:40:01.080 to you at home.
00:40:01.780 Good night.
00:40:03.220 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:40:04.300 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:40:07.700 Shame on you, you
00:40:09.320 censorious bug.
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