Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Both Canada and the U.K. lurch towards tyranny

00:00:00.000 hello my friends did you see what china did to the philippines navy the other day

00:00:05.540 they rammed their boats again and again and then even though it's all caught on tape they said no

00:00:10.920 no the philippines rammed us i think they're trying to pick a fight they're trying to pick

00:00:15.520 a war we'll talk to gordon shang about the details and i'll also give you my thoughts about

00:00:19.700 charles adler the former conservative now trudeau maniac who was just elevated to the canadian

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00:00:56.320 tonight both canada and the uk lurch towards tyranny it's august 19th and this is the answer

00:01:06.960 the levant show hey great to see you again uh lots going on in the world right now in canada

00:01:27.520 our friend tamara leach is back on trial again it's endless but it's finally coming to a conclusion

00:01:34.980 it is closing arguments last week was closing arguments by the crown prosecutors and now

00:01:40.900 it's the defendants i'm hopeful though it's the longest mischief trial in canadian history but when

00:01:47.740 i was there last week oh my gosh the judge was so uh cranky with the prosecution i don't think that's

00:01:54.980 that judge is cranky that way all the time like i don't know if anyone could keep up that energy

00:01:59.000 all the time it was fascinating to watch the judge slap down any bs by the prosecution it really felt

00:02:06.260 like she had lost her patience with them i sure am hopeful again though just because a judge expresses

00:02:11.440 certain things in a courtroom doesn't mean that their verdict will reflect that i am hopeful though

00:02:16.940 some bad news on the opposite side of the country for truckers you'll recall that there were a bunch of

00:02:23.140 truckers from coots who faced a variety of charges some were just tickets some were very serious

00:02:29.000 in the end rebel news and the democracy fund actually crowdfunded the legal defense

00:02:33.060 for 55 truckers but seven of them uh other than tamara leach were very famous out west at least

00:02:40.120 i'm talking about the coots three who were called the leadership team behind the coots blockade

00:02:45.740 and the coots four who were charged with an extremely serious crime conspiracy to commit murder of a

00:02:53.820 police officer they were immediately jailed and held it's two and a half years now now two out of

00:03:00.400 those four made a plea bargain several months ago to get out for time served for a lesser conviction

00:03:06.800 the last two of the coots four they decided to run the trial and indeed they did with jury and they were

00:03:15.060 acquitted of the more serious charges convicted of more minor charges but here's the bad news

00:03:21.980 despite the jury acquitting them i understand that the crown prosecutor wishes to appeal the crown

00:03:29.920 wants another go at things absolutely outrageous and as i mentioned the other day these criminal laws

00:03:38.000 the and in some cases the arrive can laws and things like that they may maybe just in trudeau's

00:03:43.640 orders but pretty much everywhere in canada the prosecution of these is done by the provincial

00:03:48.240 government the provincial prosecutors are run by the premiers and the attorneys general there is

00:03:54.240 another big trial in these matters coming up next month in calgary arthur pavlovsky will appeal his

00:04:00.060 conviction of mischief for giving a sermon to the coots men during the blockade i'll personally be in

00:04:06.920 court live tweeting that and tomorrow i'm going back to ottawa to live tweet i want to let you know that

00:04:11.980 even though i'm not in ottawa today and and obviously i can't be at all these trials all the time

00:04:16.380 we typically have people there in the case of tamara leach every single day a lawyer from the

00:04:22.560 democracy fund has been live tweeting the cases of course the democracy fund has paid for has crowd

00:04:29.000 funded tamara leach's excellent legal team led by edward greenspawn lawrence greenspawn excuse me

00:04:34.700 but we also have a democracy fund lawyer tweeting very interesting what's so strange to me though

00:04:43.000 and it was brought home to me last week was that here we are four years after the covid mania

00:04:50.920 years after various rules about gathering and distancing and masking and that arrive can scam and it was

00:05:00.040 just last week that i discovered and i probably bet the same is for you too that there are hundreds of

00:05:07.620 thousands of thousands of arrive can tickets out there hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of

00:05:11.840 arrive can tickets out there that we didn't even know about in particular i'm talking about the case

00:05:17.120 of the amish community you know the amish are they're an old order religious sect who actually

00:05:24.120 live like it's in the 18th century they they use no electricity no phones no email they don't even

00:05:29.880 drive in cars or trucks they farm with horse pulled equipment they ride a horse and buggy to church

00:05:36.340 no electricity they read by the light of oil lamps um the this community was hit with arrive can fines

00:05:44.220 for not downloading the arrive can app on their cell phones when they crossed back into canada after

00:05:50.040 they went on their little journeys to the other amish communities in in the united states but what does

00:05:55.640 download an app mean to someone who doesn't have a phone doesn't use electricity they might not even

00:05:59.880 know they probably don't even know what those words mean and and yet these amish would come back

00:06:05.280 they would go back and forth for family reasons or whatever and every time they would be dinged

00:06:10.240 six thousand dollars in covet fines and they didn't pay it they didn't go to trial they they aren't

00:06:16.980 really part of our world that way and so these 394 000 in fines that nobody knew about i mean these

00:06:23.720 folks don't have press conferences these folks don't uh you know phone into talk shows they don't have

00:06:29.100 phones um when they didn't pay their tickets their farms and homes were hit with a lien so they can't

00:06:37.020 use their homes for collateral to take out a loan to run the farm anymore imagine how many other people

00:06:42.540 are suffering in silence like that across the country well maybe the answer is none maybe we now

00:06:48.660 know every single person who was hit with a covid finding a lien or maybe there are dozens maybe there

00:06:54.720 are thousands more out there but imagine the cruelty and the heartlessness and the inflexibility

00:07:00.940 you're a bureaucrat you see the the amish look different i mean they're they even they're i mean

00:07:06.960 the men have that very distinctive beard they they dress like it's you know the olden days the men wear

00:07:12.620 those distinctive hats that you know they're amish you know that if you're on the border because they

00:07:17.560 don't carry regular passports they they have a different kind of paperwork you know they're amish

00:07:23.100 you've probably been if you're a border guard you've probably seen them coming and going your

00:07:27.860 entire career and then they don't fill out an app and imagine the cruelty and the stubborn stupidity

00:07:34.640 to put them down for a six thousand dollar fine every single time and then the second order of

00:07:39.720 cruelty and stupidity to actually put a lien on their house if you didn't see my show on that last

00:07:45.760 week may i encourage you to do so but here's just a one minute refresher of how insane this was just

00:07:51.440 one minute okay i know we've already talked about this last week but here's a minute what's so

00:07:55.140 incredible as i sat down for a meeting for about 90 minutes with the head of the community he showed

00:08:00.500 me that in the 74 families in this community they have 400 000 in fines and here's what's new here's

00:08:09.960 what i have never seen before in all of our stories involving the arrive can app because these folks here

00:08:16.160 are not getting emails they're not getting phone calls collections agents they have nowhere to phone

00:08:22.580 so what they've done is they have attached a lien on the title deeds of these homes a kind of legal

00:08:32.560 encumbrance without telling the folks here that's the crazy thing i was told about a young amish farmer

00:08:40.040 who went to the bank to get a bank loan to buy some cattle he was told by the bank officer i can't do

00:08:48.600 that did you know that there is a lien on your property for thousands of dollars for the arrive

00:08:53.920 can and the amish man said what so not only were they harassed into using this app that they couldn't

00:09:01.740 use not only were they persecuted because they have a religious exemption because of their religion but

00:09:07.860 i've never seen this before the province of ontario went ahead and tagged homes not this particular home

00:09:14.080 but homes in this community stopping families from changing the title from father to son on a farm

00:09:21.740 stopping families from using the farm to get a loan to operate their farm i've never seen such a punitive

00:09:28.960 bureaucratic bullying example in my life and as you know the democracy fund has fought 3 000 cases

00:09:36.860 many of them on the arrive can issue it was challenging to set up today's meeting like i say

00:09:43.000 we just physically showed up but we found a friend of the community who lives who's not amish himself

00:09:50.200 but he does some business with the amish he heard about the democracy fund he knew the democracy fund

00:09:56.300 would take cases of people from any background any religion any station in life and he contacted us

00:10:02.300 all right well really what i wanted to talk about were two things the first was the appointment to

00:10:08.300 the canadian senate of charles adler now if you're over 50 definitely if you're over 45 i think you've

00:10:17.860 probably heard of charles adler and you probably thought well where is he now because 20 years ago he

00:10:23.820 was the king of conservative talk radio in canada he was based in winnipeg but his show was carried

00:10:30.080 pretty much coast to coast he had a beautiful voice perfect for radio and storytelling he had a big

00:10:36.280 heart and he was very effective at making the conservative case plus he had a bit of a knack

00:10:42.380 for discovering talent our friend david the menzoid menzies was a regular appear on charles adler's radio

00:10:49.880 show the menzoid and typically he just told funny stories um not even particularly newsworthy ones

00:10:55.980 charles adler even had a very young ben shapiro on his show once adler was the boss of canadian

00:11:03.520 conservative talk radio and i would say i would consider him a friend back then when the sun news

00:11:10.620 network was started about 15 years ago um well all of us were hired myself for the ezra levant show

00:11:18.380 charles adler was hired for his show uh even david menzies had some appearances the whole gang got

00:11:25.380 together and it was wonderful and and charles lived up to his billing as a conservative commentator but

00:11:31.640 he didn't last that long there and soon after the sun news network went away well things changed in

00:11:38.800 canadian talk radio that used to be the staple of charles adler basically the word went out because

00:11:45.460 of course most canadian radio is owned by massive networks massive chains so it's really only about three

00:11:51.020 companies that control the bulk of all the radio in canada and the message went out no more right

00:11:57.440 wing talk just like the message had gone out in youtube and in social media after trump's victory

00:12:02.520 no more right wing uh social media the same thing happened in canadian radio and if you think about

00:12:09.120 that the truly conservative voices were either forced into retirement or told to tone it down

00:12:14.580 uh but charles adler he adapted he became slightly conservative he became conservative with a lot of water

00:12:24.880 pulled poured in to water it down and um then one day i think he just flipped he just switched sides

00:12:32.680 completely charles adler became trump deranged trump derangement syndrome and then soon enough

00:12:40.140 pierre poliev deranged too and by deranged i don't just mean being critics every politician

00:12:47.460 deserves criticism i'm talking about weird swears and weird insults and weird name calling extremely

00:12:56.340 personal and it wasn't just against big shots like trump and polio they don't need me to defend them but

00:13:01.700 ordinary people for example his raw hatred for the unvaccinated or people who didn't want to go along

00:13:08.400 and follow orders of the state during the lockdowns charles adler had enormous hatred for them it was

00:13:15.180 shocking some of the things he stood for in recent years were 100 or 180 degrees opposite of what he used

00:13:23.980 to stand for here's an example uh charles adler like the rest of us um know that the cbc is a state

00:13:31.040 broadcaster that is literally what it is it is a broadcaster owned by the state whose mandate is written

00:13:36.760 by the state whose board of directors is appointed by the state that is paid for by the state there is

00:13:42.500 no way in which the cbc is not a state broadcaster and i don't even really think that it's a matter of

00:13:48.960 opinion to say so it's a matter of fact charles adler of course used that phrase as you can see here on

00:13:53.920 twitter but in recent years he decided that to do so was small-minded and partisan i guess what i'm

00:14:00.940 saying is charles adler spent uh until well into his 60s he was an enemy of the left and the cbc until

00:14:10.500 something happened in the last couple of years he started associating with other crazy people

00:14:17.320 like dean blundell who was so atrocious that he was fired from his radio show

00:14:22.120 over sexually inappropriate comment about minors what was it that caused charles adler to become

00:14:30.140 more and more disconnected from his entire life's work why did charles adler who i would have called

00:14:37.040 a friend back then become an atrocious appalling hateful leftist what was it well i think we found

00:14:45.760 out the answer over the weekend justin trudeau appointed charles adler to the canadian senate

00:14:51.200 ah adler railed against that too back in his day oh he hated the senate he called it a barn or a farm

00:14:59.720 he despised it talked about abolishing it yeah that was before he got a patronage gig from his buddy

00:15:07.580 justin trudeau for it even the toronto sun that used to employ him as a columnist was grossed out and

00:15:14.220 put it on their front page even though he's their alumnus and then i learned that charles adler

00:15:21.060 actually applied for the job he wasn't tapped on the shoulder by an angel and elevated to that

00:15:27.860 heaven of patronage he actually applied for it begged for it wrote for it asked for it

00:15:33.700 he communicated with trudeau and said give me that job and the entire time he was waiting for a reply

00:15:41.080 you could say it was fairly described as an audition so every strange tweet attacking pierre

00:15:49.720 paulia suddenly looks different doesn't it knowing that for months perhaps years charles adler had in

00:15:57.880 his mind impressing justin trudeau frankly trudeau should have waited longer because adler was an asset

00:16:04.440 in the field he was a secret liberal partisan didn't tell anyone he was angling for a job

00:16:10.180 trudeau could have probably gotten another four years out from him but now we know why charles adler

00:16:16.620 made the flip-flop why he became so vicious you know it's actually a bit of a tradition in canada

00:16:22.480 for politicians to appoint the odd journalists think about it pamela wallen was put into the senate

00:16:28.120 mike duffy etc sometimes you want a journalist in there because they're effective communicators

00:16:34.840 sometimes because they have a public reputation and sometimes because they care about freedom of

00:16:40.160 speech but that's unfortunately not the case with charles adler oh he used to oh he used to very much

00:16:45.540 be in favor of freedom of speech but now he's an embarrassment to free speech and journalism

00:16:50.120 um he specifically trashed people who criticize uh justin trudeau for censorship he actually came

00:17:00.220 up positively to support justin trudeau's takeover in the internet in bill c11 which not only gave trudeau

00:17:06.380 domain uh over the internet by giving the crtc the power to regulate the internet but uh it also

00:17:13.400 specifically gives trudeau the power through the crtc to throttle certain youtube channels and boost

00:17:19.880 others now i was looking at some of the the worst stuff that charles adler has said over the last

00:17:25.960 few years i was searching for key words it was just incredible to see who he was calling a nazi for

00:17:32.620 example and i thought to myself well maybe charles adler's going to grow up now maybe that was just him

00:17:38.020 messing around in social media i know what that's like you're having a little bit of fun

00:17:41.260 and i thought of that phrase from you know that passage from first corinthians

00:17:46.080 when i was a child i spoke as a child i understood as a child i thought as a child but when i became a

00:17:52.660 man i put away childish things maybe that's about to happen maybe charles adler is about to put his

00:17:58.620 childishness away and rise to the occasion of being a senator yeah no i think that's exactly the opposite

00:18:06.240 i think his childishness is specifically why he was appointed to the senate his vicious attacks on

00:18:12.200 pierre polyev and uh republicans in the states is exactly why he's so gross and i think it's a

00:18:18.820 constitutional crisis because we now have a senate that is so overwhelmingly and so lopsided with

00:18:24.620 trudeau's appointments i don't know what's going to happen if and when pierre polyev finally wins

00:18:29.920 office remember trudeau um took over the senate and it had if memory serves me correctly about 30

00:18:35.500 vacancies in it because stephen harper refused to appoint people to the senate on principle thinking

00:18:40.880 well he'll just sort of starve the senate out of existence well uh that's sort of a foolish approach

00:18:45.940 because justin trudeau inherited an empty senate he immediately stacked it with a bunch of bunnies

00:18:50.120 so i think that we're in for a real constitutional crisis when pierre polyev wins what i think will be a

00:18:55.480 massive win and the senate simply says no and i think charles adler will be a conservative

00:19:02.020 smearer i mean he's already shown he'll sell his beliefs for some cash and a pension i think he is

00:19:09.420 eager to be the face of trudeau in the senate i think it'll be his biggest audience yet and i think

00:19:16.020 the viciousness he's shown in recent years will be meted out against trudeau's opponents

00:19:20.180 what could this look like in canada if we go another five years down the road if god forbid say

00:19:26.800 justin trudeau were re-elected which i don't think will happen but it certainly could

00:19:30.220 well i think the united kingdom is a vision of that i don't know if you saw this over the weekend

00:19:35.600 but incredibly the home secretary which is basically their minister in charge of domestic

00:19:40.160 affairs is a very very powerful position announced that extreme misogyny will now be considered

00:19:47.120 terrorism

00:19:49.360 uh just to clarify misogyny means people who are anti-women

00:19:55.860 now the first and obvious question is the labor party in the uk hates to answer the question

00:20:02.380 what is a woman so i mean it's sort of a joke they they don't know how to say uh what a woman is but

00:20:09.260 they're certain that if someone is anti-woman that's terrorism is it transphobic to say only women

00:20:16.000 have a cervix well it is uh something that uh shouldn't be said it is not right but andrew i

00:20:24.140 don't think that rosie duffield should not have said that can you explain to people watching

00:20:27.740 why she should not have said that well andrew i don't think that um we can just go through

00:20:32.960 various things that people have said rosie duffield i spoke to rosie earlier this uh week

00:20:37.980 and told her that conference was a safe place for her to come um and it is a safe place for her to

00:20:43.880 come um and i spoke to others to make exactly the same principle we do everybody a disservice when

00:20:50.220 we reduce what is a really important issue to these exchanges on particular things that are said

00:20:56.840 but how is even the worst misogyny how is someone who despises women or is uh prejudiced against women

00:21:05.640 or is disparaging of women or disrespectful women how is even the darkest feeling like that how is that

00:21:12.360 terrorism i know what terrorism means terrorism is violence or the threat of violence in pursuit of

00:21:19.460 a political outcome violence terrorism is not a hard feeling in your heart you can be an extremist

00:21:26.300 you can be a hateful person and not commit terrorism terrorism is when you take that hatred in your heart

00:21:30.740 and you express it in some threatening way and say if you don't change the world in the way i want it

00:21:36.040 i'm going to do something awful to you that's terrorism simply having hurtful feelings it's not terrorism

00:21:41.420 the redefining terrorism to basically criminalize their opponents it's not a fix it's a trap

00:21:49.100 we showed you earlier that the british labor government intends to clear out prisons of actual

00:21:58.280 violent criminals take a look at this clip just from this morning we will guarantee a prison cell we

00:22:03.660 will make sure that those people who need to be in prison will be in prison not necessarily in the

00:22:08.840 area where they live they may be two three hundred miles away from home but we will guarantee people

00:22:13.880 a prison cell with the numbers are so tight how can you make that guarantee they are tight and that's

00:22:19.800 why we've initiated operation early dawn so basically the easiest way to describe it is one in one out

00:22:26.280 so as people get released we can then pick up people from police cells and take them to court and

00:22:32.840 we will triage that three times a day they are taking people who are in british prisons which means

00:22:39.000 they're the worst of the worst because like canada most criminals don't actually serve any time in the uk

00:22:44.440 so if you've been put into prison you are bad you're you stabbed someone you raped someone perhaps you even

00:22:51.560 committed terrorism to be released for that violent crime to make room for people who tweeted their support

00:22:59.560 for the riots and sometimes not even necessarily that here's a judge saying that merely watching

00:23:07.480 the riots with intentful curiosity that's a crime in itself take a look i find it remarkable how

00:23:12.520 quickly hundreds of brits have been tried convicted and thrown in prison in the uk they've set up 24

00:23:18.760 hour courts and these trials must be minutes or at the most hours long certainly not the year-long process

00:23:25.800 with tamara leach i've never seen it this fast before and i've certainly never seen it this fast before

00:23:30.600 for the industrial scale rape gangs in the uk or the knife crime i talked to my friends over there and

00:23:36.600 it feels like they're drowning under a tidal wave they're scared to speak out um there's more rapes and more

00:23:43.320 stabbings all the time people are scared to even talk about it because if they talk about it they could be the

00:23:49.160 ones going to jail i saw this astonishing story in the times uh in in the london times which is one

00:23:57.080 of the most prestigious newspapers in the world you've probably heard of the times it was founded

00:24:01.320 in the 1780s you know on your word processor the font the typeface times new roman times is the typeface

00:24:10.920 named after that newspaper that's how authoritative and impressive it is it really is one of the best

00:24:15.960 newspapers in the world and yet they did this story about a rape victim who wasn't just raped once

00:24:22.680 she was raped dozens if not hundreds of times and is now campaigning against migrant rapists she's a

00:24:29.400 saint she's a victim she doesn't want to be victimized she's a crusader against rape and the

00:24:35.160 times did a hit piece on her because she was criticizing migrants and working with tommy robinson

00:24:41.880 i'm shocked that a newspaper the caliber of the times would do that and that's why my friends over

00:24:45.800 there is so scared if the times of london will do an attack piece on a rape victim and be and try and

00:24:54.600 make it so the labor mp in her district is ashamed and embarrassed to meet with the rape victim if that's

00:25:00.920 the level of hatred and extremism in the mainstream media you can imagine how terrifying it is to be an

00:25:07.560 activist in the uk right now i have friends who i've worked with before alumni of rebel news who've

00:25:12.840 called me up and said they're worried about being jailed it's not just the uk across the narrow sea

00:25:18.280 there in ireland i don't know if you saw the news the other day but a priest a chaplain in the irish army

00:25:23.640 was stabbed repeatedly by a teenager who's an isis supporter an islamic extremist that detail that this

00:25:31.800 was an islamic extremist radicalized by isis has been completely hidden by the media other than in

00:25:37.000 one report absolutely shocking and here's the british prime minister keir starmer giving a speech

00:25:43.080 in northern ireland saying not a word about the stabbing in ireland but a lot of words about the far

00:25:49.160 right take a look at this i'm in northern ireland here today for three purposes firstly to meet

00:25:57.160 the psni officers who've been on the front line during this disorder many of them have been

00:26:03.160 injured and my purpose was to say to them thank you for what they have done we make big asks of them

00:26:09.960 they step up and they deserve our thanks i've also had the chance to speak to the psni senior leadership

00:26:17.080 about the challenges that they face and the support that they need and then third and very

00:26:22.440 importantly to speak to some of the communities most impacted about the fear that they have the

00:26:28.680 anxiety that they have about the recent disorder the disorder is intolerable it is incapable of

00:26:36.680 justification it's clearly racist and it does not represent the modern forward-looking northern ireland

00:26:45.400 that i know that this place is so i'm very pleased to achieve all those three things today and to work

00:26:51.560 with all communities to work with psni and others to ensure that we handle this situation not just

00:26:57.400 the immediate disorder but also the longer-term work that's necessary to ensure that we have that

00:27:03.560 one northern ireland approach that i know represents the northern ireland uh modern northern ireland

00:27:10.040 of the future i'm really worried about what's going on over there we're seeing with our own eyes what it means to have

00:27:15.960 trudeau's bill c63 the online harms act put into place that online harms act bill 63 that's what it's

00:27:23.320 called in canada that's very similar to the law they're using in the uk to put people in jail for

00:27:28.520 tweeting about riots it's the same very similar in its structure to similar laws one that was recently

00:27:36.600 passed in scotland and one that is proposed for ireland i fear that if we don't change our course in

00:27:43.800 canada we're going to have what's going on in the uk with the jailing of dissidents happen here in

00:27:50.120 canada too let me ask you this we see the viciousness with which they're going after tamara leach and the

00:27:56.680 various coots defendants and that's what the existing laws as they are imagine what they do when merely

00:28:03.640 tweeting now becomes a crime stay with us more ahead with gordon chang

00:28:18.200 it was navies that ruled the world that's certainly what made the british empire dominant for centuries

00:28:26.040 since then america has taken over the mantle there are not sorry eleven u.s aircraft carrier strike

00:28:36.120 groups any one of which could reasonably be argued to have more naval power than any other country as a

00:28:45.080 whole but i'm not sure if mere size of ships and tonnage of ships is the measurement i point out for

00:28:53.880 example in the war between ukraine and russia that russia by far has the dominant naval force i don't

00:29:01.960 even think ukraine has much of one at all russia essentially seized it and and that stick along with

00:29:08.920 you know crimea but look at what ukraine has been able to do with sea drones it's been able to sink

00:29:15.800 ship after ship in the russian navy including the mighty ship moskva which means moscow it would be

00:29:23.800 like sinking an american ship called america my point is that navies are measured in different ways

00:29:31.160 these days and so it comes to china's navy already by far the most numerous navy in the world measured

00:29:38.680 by sheer number of ships i think they only have three aircraft carriers two of which are basically

00:29:44.680 test beds or training vessels the third hasn't fully been deployed as far as i know but what they're

00:29:51.560 doing with their little boats is asymmetrical is powerful in any event let me point out a shocking

00:29:59.240 story that just happened earlier today philippines time the headline china says philippine vessel quote

00:30:09.240 deliberately collided with chinese vessel in the south china sea now do you believe that reuters headline

00:30:15.560 do you think that the philippines rammed a chinese ship or do you think perhaps just a chance it was

00:30:22.840 the other way around here's some footage showing the smashed up philippine ships and joining us now to help

00:30:30.680 make sense of this is our friend gordon chang who you can follow at gordon g chang on twitter gordon great to

00:30:37.160 see you again china is flexing its muscle in the seas against everybody these days isn't it

00:30:45.000 it certainly is and it's not just the philippines although it's primarily the philippines in the last

00:30:50.440 month but of course against taiwan and against japan so we're talking about south china sea east china sea

00:30:58.280 taiwan straight and that means that beijing is just looking for a fight we can't say that xi jinping has

00:31:05.800 decided to go to war but what we can say is that xi jinping has made the decision to risk war because

00:31:13.480 today on june 17th and many other days he has in fact risked war now if i understand what happened

00:31:22.600 these were coast guard vessels of the respective countries the philippine coast guard and the chinese

00:31:28.200 coast guard they collided it's a neutral way of saying it now china is saying the philippines caused that

00:31:34.680 but it looks from the imagery like it was the chinese boats doing the ramming and i understand

00:31:40.600 from reading your work that china actually builds its ships with a ramming potential that this isn't

00:31:47.720 some accident this is one of the ways they use their navy is that accurate that is accurate we have

00:31:55.400 seen that video and it shows that in both instances it is the chinese boats that rammed the philippine vessels

00:32:03.240 and you're right china has been building its coast guard vessels and others with rams so clearly this is

00:32:11.000 an engagement that they have talked about and they've undoubtedly have practiced the soviets did this

00:32:17.160 during the cold war and we're seeing basically china do the same thing and it's not just on today i mentioned

00:32:26.760 in june 17th that was where we saw some extremely aggressive chinese activities at scarborough shell

00:32:34.200 i'm sorry second thomas shell which is very close to sabina shell the location of today's events and we

00:32:40.840 saw the chinese on that day not only cause collisions but also seize uh philippine vessels and injured

00:32:49.240 filipino sailors one of them grief seriously so this is a regime in beijing that has decided to use

00:32:57.320 force intimidation um and ramming um to get what it wants you know it reminds me the idea of deliberately

00:33:05.480 bumping up to another country's vessel that is a move that of course during the cold war and i even think

00:33:12.360 of about 20 years ago there was a u.s spy intelligence aircraft that was bumped by china

00:33:19.960 and had to make an emergency landing and the idea of bumping or damaging or colliding with an american

00:33:27.080 or other vessel near china's territory that's not a new trick that that's something even russia would do

00:33:34.200 in the past that's something that uh you know to knock it out of the sky as a warning or in the case of

00:33:39.320 that spy plane to capture it and inspect it am i right you're right that was april 1st 2001 where

00:33:46.840 a chinese jet um accidentally hit a u.s navy ep3 um the chinese jet um uh fell into the south china sea

00:33:57.800 the pilot was killed and our plane made an emergency landing at a chinese field on hainan island where the

00:34:06.120 chinese held the crew and they stripped the plane uh violation of american sovereignty now since that

00:34:12.840 time we have seen some pretty dangerous chinese flying in the last couple years so for instance

00:34:18.360 um on i think it was may 26 2022 um a chinese fighter crossed a australian p8 operating in

00:34:29.640 international airspace in the south china sea and the chinese jet not only uh fired flares at the

00:34:36.680 australian craft it dropped chaff which is aluminum foil intended to confuse radar and that chaff was

00:34:43.960 actually ingested into one of the p8 engines now fortunately the australian crew was able to land

00:34:49.400 their planes safely but that was an act of skilled airmanship um because they could have lost that plane

00:34:56.840 now you mentioned the philippines i wouldn't mind talking a little bit more about that because

00:35:02.040 i i know historically the u.s has had one of their largest

00:35:07.160 foreign bases in the philippines uh subic bay a large military presence now sometimes these american

00:35:14.360 bases are causes of conflict and friction with the local community and sometimes politically they're asked

00:35:20.840 to leave i know that was the case in saudi arabia which uh eventually said goodbye to the u.s

00:35:27.160 what is the status of the mind of the political mind in the philippines now like it's easy to chafe

00:35:33.640 against uncle sam if you feel safe that's sort of a luxury you can indulge in but if you are now scared

00:35:40.440 of a strategic rival like china and if they're seizing and actually injuring filipino nationals

00:35:47.320 has that changed the temperament in the philippines has that government and has the general populace

00:35:54.280 become warmer to americans what do you know if this has had any uh like sometimes the consequences

00:36:01.000 are not what china might want maybe it's pushing people more towards an american orbit

00:36:07.560 and that certainly has been the case with the philippines because the current philippine president

00:36:11.960 verdant marcos jr has moved very close to the u.s and is actually chasing the u.s to have a closer um

00:36:19.880 military relationship and we have stitched up an agreement or two which are really important we are

00:36:26.040 now exercising um with the philippines uh which is important this is a big change from the previous

00:36:32.680 administration of rodrigo duterte who was very anti-american and you mentioned subic bay um we were

00:36:40.040 turfed out of subic bay and clark air force base um in the 1990s um when there was that attitude in the

00:36:47.800 philippines that we don't need the united states but what happened right after that was the chinese

00:36:53.320 seized mischief reef from the philippines which is very close to the philippines very far away from china

00:36:59.240 and now we're seeing these very provocative moves at places like scarborough shoal second thomas shoal

00:37:06.360 sabina reef whitson reef these are places where um are very close to the philippines and again

00:37:14.280 um more than a thousand kilometers from china you know isn't that interesting i for you i sort of

00:37:22.280 remember that philippines wanted the americans out and then there was a i think it was a hurricane or

00:37:27.400 something the americans were first to respond i mean when there's a natural disaster having a u.s

00:37:32.600 military base near your home is a wonderful thing because no one is quicker and better in disaster relief

00:37:38.840 than the u.s military um kicking out the u.s military made me think of an idea that called

00:37:45.560 chesterton's fence named after gk chesterton where he said if you buy a piece of land and there's a

00:37:51.240 fence on it unless you know what that fence is for don't take it down because someone put that fence

00:37:58.440 there for a reason even if the reason is no longer apparent and i think of that you know clark air force

00:38:03.080 base subic bay these were major major military establishments and of course it was in america's

00:38:07.880 interest to have a an outpost in the philippines but it was only when they were removed when the

00:38:13.080 fence was taken down that uh that everyone was reminded about its purpose in the first place

00:38:19.400 is there a growing coalition um like there is maybe in the middle east with the sunni arabs realizing

00:38:26.520 that iran is a threat so you see a new coalition of saudi arabian bahrain and even israel is in there

00:38:32.760 is there a similar coalition building in the east taiwan japan south korea philippines i don't know

00:38:39.560 where vietnam would stand in this is china the big bully making all the little countries sort of join

00:38:45.640 together well that's certainly been the case um so for instance um under the biden administration we

00:38:52.840 have seen the formation of the AUKUS PAC which stands for australia uk the u.s that's primarily uh

00:39:00.920 involved in providing nuclear attack submarines to australia to replace their collins class

00:39:07.400 um there's something called jeropis which is japan um the united states and the philippines and

00:39:15.480 there's something called jerokis which is japan republic of korea south korea and the united states

00:39:22.840 so these are groups that have formed together and they come after um the trump administration was

00:39:28.680 instrumental in fortifying what's known as the quad which is japan the united states australia

00:39:36.680 and india so these groups are coming together and the reason why they're there is because china has

00:39:42.920 frightened everybody in the region and realized made them realize that they've got to band together

00:39:48.280 to protect themselves wow that's very interesting i hadn't heard of those uh ones in the region i'd heard

00:39:55.000 of AUKUS and mainly because of my sorrow that canada is no longer included in those decisions

00:40:01.400 which is not relevant our military is so small our leadership is likely compromised by communist china

00:40:07.960 there's been hearings into interference and i think justin trudeau is is not quite trusted as he

00:40:13.480 as canada once was we had something called the five eyes intelligence agencies i feel like canada's being left

00:40:19.640 out maybe canada shouldn't be a busy body in the far east maybe we're too far away but we are a pacific

00:40:27.320 nation and we did used to be peace keepers around the world we used to punch above our weight i know

00:40:33.640 in the second world war we certainly did we had our own beach in normandy um i just think it's sort

00:40:40.040 of sad and i'm speaking parochially as a canadian here that we're we're not even involved here if

00:40:45.960 anything we're probably on the wrong side well justin trudeau is is very pro china um and you

00:40:53.240 talk about the capabilities of the canadian military where it really matters for canada is the arctic

00:40:59.640 because we have russia china um threatening basically to take canadian territory now fortunately canada is

00:41:07.880 military ally of the country called the united states um but even the u.s um doesn't have very much in the

00:41:15.560 way in the arctic even though we are an arctic state like canada is and this is i think something

00:41:22.680 that is going to be important for canada as it starts to reassess its relationship with china

00:41:28.120 because china has wanted to have commercial facilities in the arctic regions of canada and

00:41:35.080 those obviously have a strategic purpose much more important than the commercial purpose that beijing talks

00:41:41.480 about yeah very interesting well gordon it's great to catch up with you i i some of this news i feel

00:41:47.480 is under reported or at least in in the media that we get generally in canada the visuals of those

00:41:54.680 philippine ships being rammed is quite striking and um i know that you pray for peace i read that in your

00:42:01.880 twitter feed and i and i think we ought to do that pray for peace but prepare for the worst i think that's

00:42:07.640 our duty gordon g chang great to see you and folks if you're not following gordon on twitter may i highly

00:42:12.200 recommend it gordon g chang at twitter you will learn things there that you see nowhere else great to see

00:42:19.240 again my friend thank you so much ezra thank you all right stay with us more ahead

00:42:25.160 hey welcome back your letters to me saint matthew has this to say about yara sacks just another

00:42:40.440 example trudeau's choices of the dumbest politicians in the liberal party in with the crowd of the likes

00:42:45.880 of shameless oregan and climate barbie yeah i'm really trying to understand yara sacks she runs away

00:42:53.000 from us i guess she's not very good on her feet although you'd think that the questions we'd asked

00:42:57.800 she'd have an answer to by now i mean you'd think she would have six months to think about

00:43:01.480 her explanation for meeting with that terrorist leader mabuna bass but besides that extreme lapse

00:43:08.760 in judgment she's trudeau's point person on pushing hard drugs on vulnerable communities

00:43:13.880 i really think she's done an extraordinary amount of damage to this country um i i if my political

00:43:21.000 senses have any uh skill i think she's going to be crushed in the next election i was at a town

00:43:25.960 hall in her own district and people couldn't stop booing on my interview with mark morano about

00:43:32.040 elon musk's comment about carbon dioxide one rubicon one says he sells electric cars he can't say

00:43:37.880 something that will help kill his business i'm going to disagree with you a little bit there

00:43:42.360 he has repeatedly said that he himself does not ask for government grants that was

00:43:46.520 gm or others and he himself says that climate alarmism and climate extremism is out of control

00:43:53.560 that we do need other sources of fuel so i don't think he is like david suzuki or like a an ideologue i

00:44:01.080 think i think he just might have made a mistake here i mean no one person can know everything about

00:44:06.360 every field of science and engineering it sounds to me like he just sort of heard a stat and repeated

00:44:12.440 it and didn't check on it because i know for a fact that you exhale uh carbon dioxide at 40 000

00:44:20.120 parts per million it's about 400 in the natural atmosphere so your breath is a hundred times more

00:44:26.120 carbon dioxide-y um than the air and that's not poisonous i mean after a while you feel oh the air

00:44:32.840 here is stale roll down the window get some fresh air but the idea that a thousand parts per million is

00:44:38.440 going to kill you is absurd when you breathe out 40 times that anyways i think it's sort of

00:44:44.120 nitpicking i think elon musk is possibly the most important citizen on planet earth right now in terms

00:44:50.520 of not just put aside all his industrial and engineering and entrepreneurial skills the fact

00:44:57.400 that he is fighting for freedom of speech on a free speech platform is a greater gift to humanity

00:45:03.320 than pretty much anyone else out there right now that's my view well i'm off tomorrow to tamara

00:45:09.240 leach's trial in ottawa again and i'll come to you from there until then on behalf of all of us here

00:45:15.000 at rebel world headquarters you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - August 19, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Both Canada and the U.K. lurch towards tyranny

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