Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant breaks down exclusive interview with Geert Wilders

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm going to go through that here at Builders interview line by line now,

00:00:04.240 because I had so many things to say in the moment, but I didn't want to say it

00:00:07.600 because I wanted maximum talk time for Builders himself. Well, today I'll unpack some of my

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00:00:39.960 Tonight, going over the interview here at Builders line by line. I've got some more thoughts to share

00:00:59.680 with you. It's December 1st, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:04.400 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:18.000 Oh, hi, everybody. It's great to be back in Canada. This is where the stories are. This is where our 0.85

00:01:22.700 home is. Occasionally, I like to travel to foreign destinations when there's news that we can learn

00:01:28.160 from for here in Canada. For example, the massive street battles of the pro-Hamas activists in London,

00:01:35.060 England. I think that's very interesting to us here, related to, for example, when earlier this

00:01:40.520 year I went to Marseille, France, where they had Muslim riots against the French government. I think

00:01:46.120 there's things we can learn from here when it comes to mass immigration without integration.

00:01:51.020 And over the last few days, as you may know, I was in the Netherlands, a great European country with

00:01:58.040 deep ties to Canada, by the way. We helped liberate them during the Second World War. They had a shockwave

00:02:05.060 in their latest parliamentary elections. Geert Builders, the leader of the Party for Freedom,

00:02:09.680 shocked the country, and I think himself, by coming in first by a country mile. And I was delighted to be

00:02:16.220 the first non-Dutch journalist to talk to him about it. That's sort of neat. And he did allude in our

00:02:26.200 conversation to the fact that Rebel News is independent citizen journalism, which he said

00:02:30.960 is very important to contrarian, non-conformist parties like his. I showed you the whole interview

00:02:38.180 last night, and I hope you thought it was interesting. I knew I only had 15 minutes to talk to him,

00:02:44.160 because they jammed us in at the last minute between other appointments he had, and he really

00:02:49.680 was extracted from that room one minute later. You know how I am sometimes in interviews. I say

00:02:56.080 a long thesis, and I say to the interviewee, what do you think? I didn't want to do that in this. I

00:03:03.400 mean, I should never do that, really. But I really wanted to get maximum talk time for him, maximum time

00:03:09.860 for him to say. And I wanted to cover certain issues, not just go deep on some of them. So what

00:03:15.300 I thought I would do today is play a question and an answer from our tight interview, and then give you

00:03:22.020 some thoughts afterwards. That is, to give you some thoughts that I would have said had we had half an

00:03:27.140 hour instead of 15 or 20 minutes. Here, take a look. First of all, congratulations. You looked genuinely

00:03:32.900 surprised by the result. Yes, I was. Not in a way that we won some parliamentary seats,

00:03:40.580 but, you know, I hoped and I predicted that if we went from 17 to 25, we would have an excellent result.

00:03:47.300 But it was not 25, it was 37. You know, one out of four Dutchmen voted for my party, which was

00:03:52.820 an earthquake in Dutch, and maybe also European politics. So, of course, I'm very pleased and grateful

00:04:00.100 to all those Dutch citizens and votants, almost two and a half million Dutchmen who voted for my party,

00:04:07.620 and that's an enormous compliment. Now, it looks like there are a number of

00:04:12.500 other parties whose voters tell pollsters they want them to form a coalition with you,

00:04:17.780 but it looks like some of the opposition parties don't want to do a coalition. It looks like they want

00:04:21.700 to sort of deny the results of the election. How's that going?

00:04:25.460 Yeah. We are now in the process of talking about this issue in parliament. And you are totally right.

00:04:36.660 If you look at the four parties that I think is possible to form a coalition with, the Conservative

00:04:42.260 Liberal Party, the Farmer Party, and the new party of Pieter Omtzigt, the four of us would have a big

00:04:48.900 majority in parliament. And more than 80, sometimes even 90 percent of the voters of all those four

00:04:56.420 parties want us to work together. Still, it's not automatically in a normal situation or country,

00:05:03.940 we would have almost formed the government already. But some of those parties are hesitant, you know,

00:05:10.980 some because they have lost the elections and believe that it's not their place now to govern,

00:05:16.020 whether that's a real reason or not. That's what they're saying. Others, because they believe that some

00:05:20.980 points out of our party program against Islamization are against our constitution,

00:05:27.220 and they don't want to work with a party who works against the constitution. So it's not automatically.

00:05:32.980 So I have to do my best to at least get those four parties around the table and talk to one another.

00:05:40.660 It will probably take time. And I hope that that will be the result and that not other parties will

00:05:48.980 take the initiative and indeed, as you said, steal those elections away from us. It's not that far

00:05:54.740 yet. It's a possibility, but I'm still hopeful that we have a chance to form a coalition in the government.

00:06:02.900 Let me tell you a few things based on that little back and forth. First of all, you can see we were in

00:06:07.140 their caucus room, the same room that they had the meeting with all their new MPs. And you can

00:06:12.340 still see on the floor some of the party balloons there. So we really were in the heart of parliament

00:06:18.580 in a high security building. What's interesting is from our Canadian point of view, getting a quarter

00:06:24.340 of the vote isn't particularly impressive, right? I mean, although Justin Trudeau is below that in the

00:06:30.580 polls these days and only got 33 percent in the last election. But in the Netherlands,

00:06:36.260 getting a quarter of the vote is enormous because of their electoral system. It's so fragmented.

00:06:41.860 There's so many different parties. There's about 20 political parties because you're not wasting

00:06:47.700 your vote on a small party as you might think you are in Canada by splitting the vote because they

00:06:53.060 don't have the same district based system. Anyways, it's an enormous win. And I think

00:07:00.580 Wilder's main point there is that not just his voters, but the voters of like-minded parties

00:07:07.380 tell pollsters they want Wilder's to form the next government. I thought that was very interesting,

00:07:12.500 but there is going to be, and Wilder's accepted my question, an attempt to, I don't know, steal the vote

00:07:20.500 from him to use a phrase. Think about it. Until very recently, Holland was ruled by Mark Rutte,

00:07:27.220 who was like Gavin Newsom, Leo Pratkar, Justin Trudeau, Jacinda Ardern. He was one of these

00:07:33.940 completely inter-replaceable World Economic Forum globalist robots. They believe all in the same

00:07:41.620 thing, global warming, extremism, censorship, mass immigration. So to go from a Trudeau-style

00:07:50.500 prime minister to a populist conservative close the borders prime minister is such a shock that

00:07:58.020 the deep state, as it were, in the Netherlands is doing everything to stop it. As Wilder says,

00:08:03.700 you know, if you had this kind of massive victory before, normally the government would

00:08:07.300 coalesce immediately. What I thought was interesting and hopeful was that Wilder's is

00:08:12.980 absolutely dedicated to making a coalition work. And as he tells me shortly in the interview,

00:08:19.300 he's willing to put a little bit of water in his wine. He would rather win and form the government

00:08:23.620 and be the prime minister and get, say, 50 or 60 or 70 percent of his agenda done rather than insist on

00:08:30.500 90 percent of it and not become prime minister. That's the kind of negotiation necessary in a

00:08:35.860 coalition-style government. Okay, back to the Q&A. You have a lot of ideas that you stood for over the

00:08:41.700 years on immigration, on Islam, on a Brexit for the Netherlands. Obviously, in any compromise or

00:08:48.500 coalition, there would be some high priorities and other things that you would maybe do later.

00:08:54.660 Have you thought about, have you expressed what your absolute priorities are that are non-negotiable

00:09:00.020 and other things that are maybe less important? Of course. You're totally right. In Holland, unlike

00:09:06.100 the United States or the United Kingdom, we don't have a two-party system. We have a multi-party system.

00:09:11.060 We have something like 20 parties in parliament today. And to get a majority, you need to compromise.

00:09:17.060 You cannot make sure that your whole party program will be the government program. It's impossible.

00:09:23.380 If you aim for that, you will always be in the opposition. So, I have to compromise. And

00:09:26.900 it's a very good question. What are our priorities? Our first priority

00:09:30.100 is to cut back in the enormous figures when it comes to immigration and asylum seekers. Holland cannot

00:09:38.420 face it anymore. The European Union cannot face it anymore. All the measures that the European Union

00:09:44.980 as a collective is making are totally ineffective. And we are overcrowded and the people are fed up with

00:09:52.180 it. So, the first thing is that we should take measures to stop the influx of so many asylum seekers 1.00

00:09:59.300 and non-Western immigrants. This is my first priority. Second priority is that people feel

00:10:05.380 that they are totally interjected, the Dutchmen, the indigenous people. They believe that while we

00:10:10.580 spend 60, 17 billion euros a year when it comes to nitrogen or climate change or all those other

00:10:20.500 things, they have trouble paying for their utilities, the rent, the gasoline for their car, the social

00:10:31.380 security or the healthcare system. So, we believe that we should stop feeding those leftish, liberal,

00:10:38.660 ideological nonsense issues. And we should make sure that our people have enough money in their pocket and

00:10:45.940 really can help our economy and help themselves. So, those issues are the two most important.

00:10:52.580 Stop the immigration asylum seeking. Be proud of our own identity, culture and everything that goes with 1.00

00:11:00.820 that. And make sure that we make better choices with the euros that we have. Don't spend it to Africa. 0.98

00:11:07.140 Don't spend it to other countries in the European Union as a transfer union that we almost have in the

00:11:12.660 eurozone. Don't spend it on nitrogen and other issues that give our own people their money back

00:11:19.140 with lower taxes and lower burdens for the Dutch. The cost of living issue, it's not just in Canada.

00:11:26.260 It's in the United Kingdom, certainly. And there it is in the Netherlands also. You know, it was sort of

00:11:31.540 surprising, shocking to my ears to hear him twice say the word nitrogen. Listen, I know what nitrogen is.

00:11:38.580 It's a element in the periodic table of the elements like oxygen and fluorine and things like that.

00:11:45.460 So, to hear a politician talk about nitrogen, I mean, I know exactly what he's talking about. That was

00:11:51.060 the essence of the farmer rebellion in the Netherlands. Mark Rutte was having a war on agriculture,

00:11:57.860 saying nitrogen was our enemy. It sounds insane to us, but how much more insane is that than Trudeau's

00:12:05.060 obsession with carbon. Same thing. In fact, carbon and nitrogen are next to each other on the periodic

00:12:12.420 table of the elements, if memory serves me correctly. Both of them are naturally occurring

00:12:16.740 elements. Nitrogen, in fact, is the number one element in the air. Imagine having a prime minister

00:12:21.700 obsessed with eliminating nitrogen, which of course is essential in fertilizers for agriculture.

00:12:27.940 It's such madness to our ears. Didn't you find it odd when he mentioned nitrogen twice? I did.

00:12:34.420 But how much more weird is that than our carbon obsession here? And it has the same effect. It

00:12:39.060 makes everything more expensive. I think he's smart to focus on the issues he says. He didn't use the

00:12:45.380 word Islam in his top issues, did he? He talked about immigration. He referred to himself and the other

00:12:52.420 Dutch as the indigenous people of the Netherlands. And I think that's a very interesting vocabulary

00:12:58.820 choice. And I hear that from time to time in the United Kingdom. I hear it in Ireland. The recent

00:13:05.060 riots there after an Algerian refugee stabbed children. And there was riots in the street.

00:13:11.780 And even Conor McGregor, the MMA fighter, got involved. We hear the word indigenous in Canada. We

00:13:17.300 take it to mean First Nations or Indians. But to hear a Dutch person talk about the indigenous

00:13:23.300 people is very interesting. It's a kind of nationalism of saying, what about us too?

00:13:28.900 Why are we sending money to, in this case, Africa? Why are we wasting money on the European Union? It was

00:13:34.340 very interesting. You can see how that would resonate. And if you saw the streeters, the man on the street

00:13:39.220 interviews I did when I was in the Netherlands, you can see those things clicked with people.

00:13:44.500 Because it's not just in Canada that people can't afford groceries and gas and housing. And they

00:13:49.860 don't understand why we're on fool's errands against carbon or nitrogen. And they don't understand

00:13:55.300 why foreign asylum seekers, as they're called in the Netherlands, get free stuff, free hotels, 0.99

00:14:01.700 free food, free everything for years, when clearly they're just opportunity-oriented migrants. 0.99

00:14:09.060 They're not actually fleeing from danger. Very interesting. He's more moderate now than his

00:14:16.820 comments have been in past years. But he's still very firm compared to the Mark Roots of the world.

00:14:21.860 Okay, let's play some more. You're not the prime minister yet. And I imagine some world leaders

00:14:27.380 would wait until you have that position before congratulating you. But you did win the election

00:14:32.500 with an enormous number. Have any world leaders publicly congratulated you or wished you well?

00:14:39.620 Or how have other world leaders treated you since the election?

00:14:42.580 Well, I get more invitations or nice messages than I ever had before. I don't know

00:14:52.180 whether they are public. So I should be careful what I say. But for instance, from Israel, I got

00:14:56.420 from ministers, the minister of foreign affairs, the minister of intelligence, people from Likud who

00:15:04.100 invited me and congratulated me. I had a phone conversation with Victor Orban, who called me.

00:15:09.300 I know I'm already for a long time, but still, who called me and congratulated me. There were politicians

00:15:15.060 from all over the world, from South America to America, who, public or not public, did that.

00:15:22.420 And I mean, it is really news. You see that in Europe, it was unexpected that so many people

00:15:32.260 would vote against the sitting elite. They didn't expect it. They are not prepared for it. They are

00:15:37.460 in panic now in Brussels, for instance, for what should we do if this guy would get to power? And this

00:15:42.820 is also what makes it more difficult today to form a coalition in the Netherlands. So I have to be

00:15:49.300 responsible. I have to be able to compromise. I have to make sure that the two and a half million

00:15:56.340 people who have voted for my party also get their influence, what they voted for. And that means I

00:16:01.220 also will have to compromise. But the signal throughout Europe and many parts of the world is quite clear

00:16:07.300 that the people, a growing amount of people are fed up with how they are dealt with by the current and

00:16:14.420 sitting elite in so many countries. You know, you saw it in other countries like Hungary,

00:16:18.660 but also you see the growth of Marine Le Pen in France, of Mr. Sauvignon who is in government in

00:16:24.420 Italy now. We saw it in Sweden. We see in Belgium that the Flames Belang is doing well. We see in

00:16:30.900 Germany. So you see a kind of, a kind of revival of the, what I call patriotic movement politically.

00:16:39.140 And we need it to be politically because if you want to change anything in our society, you need to

00:16:43.060 be in charge and influential in your national democracy. And it goes for the better. And the

00:16:50.420 best way to prove it is that the sitting elite is totally shocked, don't know how to deal with it.

00:16:56.580 And I think that proves that we are on the right track.

00:16:58.740 I went to Hungary a couple of months ago, did not achieve meeting with Viktor Orban. Again,

00:17:03.700 I was doing the same sort of show up and it might happen move in Hungary that I tried in the

00:17:08.180 Netherlands. It worked in the Netherlands. I'll try again, maybe one day in Hungary. But I'm not

00:17:12.180 surprised that Viktor Orban called up here at Builders to congratulate him because Orban has

00:17:17.460 similar policies. He is for the indigenous Hungarian people. He is against foreign migrants, especially

00:17:25.620 Islamic migrants who he feels are not integrated with Hungarian society. And he is hostile to the 0.88

00:17:32.740 European Union. So it is no surprise at all. You heard some of the other countries that were

00:17:36.900 mentioned there and some Marine Le Pen of France, Georgia Maloney in Italy. There are these populist

00:17:43.860 movements. And that's, I think, why the deep state is going to try so hard to block here at Builders.

00:17:49.060 And one of the other parties on the right that is such a natural fit for a coalition, whose party members

00:17:54.980 have said in polls since the election, more than 90 percent of them want their party to be in

00:18:01.060 coalition with here at Builders. They are surprisingly resisting it. And I think that there are some very

00:18:07.860 deep subterranean movements afoot trying to deny here at Builders the right to be PM by any means

00:18:14.580 necessary. Because imagine if here at Builders became prime minister, imagine the green light,

00:18:20.740 the encouragement that would give to these other populist nationalist parties throughout Europe that

00:18:26.500 are fed up with the European Union, fed up with the elites, fed up with the carbon and nitrogen

00:18:31.700 obsession, and frankly, fed up with unintegratable immigration. I think absolutely the Netherlands would 1.00

00:18:40.340 be encouraging for France, for Belgium, for the Nordic countries. And I think that's why here at Builders

00:18:50.020 has not been able to form government yet. And he actually may have it stolen from him. I think

00:18:55.940 he's coming across very reasonably here. And I shouldn't be surprised. He's been in politics for

00:19:01.140 decades. And I think he's had a chance to really think through what he will do with his enormous seat

00:19:09.620 count. So I think he's putting a great foot forward. One quick point before we go back to the interview.

00:19:14.820 I remember when Jair Bolsonaro won in Brazil a few years back. Brazil, one of the largest countries

00:19:20.500 in the world economically, population-wise, an enormous country. Trudeau refused to congratulate

00:19:26.740 him. Just refused. Because Bolsonaro was a populist Trump-like figure. And Builders, you know, in his

00:19:34.660 own way, and same with Javier Millet in Argentina. Trudeau was so petulant that he put his own personal

00:19:41.540 distaste ahead of the national interest and would not reach out to Bolsonaro. I thought it was super

00:19:46.820 gross. And last I checked, Trudeau didn't reach out to Millet in Argentina either. It does not

00:19:52.740 surprise me that he hasn't reached out to Jair Builders. Now, it's true that Builders is not yet

00:19:56.820 prime minister. And perhaps, in some sense, it might be premature to congratulate him as prime

00:20:03.220 minister, since he's not that yet. But to congratulate him on the vote. Trudeau won't do that,

00:20:09.380 though, because to him, it's all about friends and enemies. Not Canadian interests, but his personal

00:20:15.700 interests of friends and enemies. And I suspect that Canadian-Dutch relations will suffer because

00:20:21.620 of Trudeau's petulance. I mean, seriously, is there a single country in the world that Canada is closer

00:20:27.460 to, friendlier with, that looks at Canada better now than when Trudeau was first elected eight years

00:20:33.220 ago? I can't think of one. From India and China being the two biggest examples, to Joe Biden walking

00:20:39.060 all over Canada to, like, really? I mean, maybe Cuba is friendlier to Canada now. I'm not sure. Maybe

00:20:46.820 Ukraine is because Trudeau's giving him dough. But even then, I think actually Harper was a much

00:20:52.740 stronger and more meaningful ally to Ukraine. Trudeau is awful at foreign relations, and I'm not sure

00:20:58.340 why anyone ever thought otherwise. All right, let's go back to the interview. I saw you last night

00:21:03.060 at an event. There must have been 30 or 40 police there. And I remember when I visited you before,

00:21:09.620 your security is a very high priority because of threats of violence. But there's also another fear.

00:21:17.620 People who criticize immigration or Islam, they don't just have fear of assassination. They have fear of

00:21:24.020 being called racist. What advice would you have for people in other countries who want to take the

00:21:32.340 same position as you on immigration, but are afraid of either violence or, more likely, they're afraid

00:21:38.820 that they'll just be called racist? Well, the one thing that really helps is to find a political party,

00:21:48.020 to start a political party, to support an existing political party, that makes it something that is

00:21:56.420 more common. You know, that's what we saw in Holland. When we started, when I started my political party,

00:22:01.060 exactly the same happened. I'm in the problems now with my personal security because I got five fatwas

00:22:07.460 from Pakistan, from many Arab countries, where imams and mullahs said that I had to be killed.

00:22:15.300 Today you see in Holland that not only when it comes to immigration, but also when it comes to other 0.58

00:22:19.140 issues, that people are not afraid to say it anymore. That's one of the differences of last week.

00:22:24.740 People were whispering to one another in the last few years that, okay, I vote for this PVV and this

00:22:29.700 wildest guy, but they said it while having a coffee at their work instead of publicly. And now people are,

00:22:37.460 for the first time in Holland, they are proud to do so. They say it at work, they say it when they go to

00:22:42.900 the gym, they say it on a party, a birthday party with their neighbors. So at the end of the day,

00:22:50.180 we make this criticism normal because we know that the elite was ignoring it and was calling us racist,

00:22:56.980 but we are everything but racist. In Holland and in so many other countries, the indigenous people are

00:23:02.020 the people that are discriminated against. It's not the people who are entering our country. In Holland, 1.00

00:23:08.020 people get housing, asylum seekers get housing and they get preferential housing before the Dutch indigenous 0.99

00:23:14.260 people. So who is discriminating who? And people are really angered about that. And if you want to get

00:23:22.420 to capitalize it, you need a political institution, a political group who does it. And that's what I said.

00:23:29.700 We are in many more countries in Europe, parties are getting successful. So people like you and the

00:23:37.460 alternative media really help a lot by saying what a lot of other media doesn't want to broadcast or to

00:23:43.540 say. But at the end of the day, you need a political translation to influence in the parliament and the

00:23:50.500 government. And so that's what I would advise. Don't be afraid. Speak out, but try to canalize it and

00:23:59.700 a political group. You know, when I did those streeters, again, I was outside a train station.

00:24:03.940 So I wasn't oversampling any particular group. They were right wingers and left wingers and

00:24:09.540 immigrants and indigenous people and young and old. And I spoke to several Moroccans. And, you know,

00:24:15.780 so I really spoke to a random mix when you're outside the main train station. I think that's a random

00:24:20.740 sample of people. I was really surprised, by the way, by how many ordinary Dutch people stopped to talk.

00:24:26.100 I think in Canada, to be honest, people are a lot more brusque. And certainly in Toronto,

00:24:31.220 they're a lot more rude. Not a single person was rude to us. I was being my friendly self, but it was

00:24:36.180 a lot easier to get people in the Netherlands to talk to us than it is in Canada. I don't know if,

00:24:42.100 I mean, and it happened so many times. I'm not sure if it was just an anecdote or an anomaly.

00:24:46.660 I think maybe they're a tiny bit friendlier over there. Sorry. But none of the people I spoke with,

00:24:54.420 including Moroccan, Dutch, including visible minorities, none of them had vitriol or antipathy

00:25:03.780 towards Kurt Wilders or his Freedom Party. None of them did. And I spoke to several people who said,

00:25:08.340 well, I didn't vote for him. And he's not my cup of tea. And well, it's not my first choice. But no one

00:25:12.820 was full of a derangement. Like it wasn't that Trump derangement syndrome. You know, if you

00:25:17.620 mentioned Trump, people start shouting at you and like, there wasn't any of that craziness. Now,

00:25:21.620 Kurt Wilders has tweeted in recent days that the mainstream media has gone absolutely nuts

00:25:27.380 against him, absolutely smearing him in a number of ways. And I'm sure that's true. But I just found

00:25:32.820 on the ground that he actually has been normalized. And if you have a quarter of the Dutch population

00:25:38.580 voting for him, that means you can't just say, oh, some kook, because in your own family,

00:25:44.580 in your own friend group, as he said, you know, to barbecue the gym or a birthday party,

00:25:49.700 odds are, if you're with a group of four people, one of you voted for him and maybe another one

00:25:53.940 thought of voting for him. So it's very interesting. He's been plugging away at it for 20 years.

00:25:58.740 And and even his language, like what about the indigenous Dutch people?

00:26:02.660 He says that and it resonates. And I think that ordinary Dutchmen were just no longer 1.00

00:26:09.620 scared off by the regime media because, you know, they they the media has lost its its credibility.

00:26:18.580 When you talk about we have to stop nitrogen and carbon to save the world, people say, really,

00:26:24.500 when you have the establishment discredit itself with lockdowns and vaccine mandates and abuse its

00:26:31.140 trust, as has happened over the last three years. I think people are more willing to embrace

00:26:36.180 contrarians and rebels than they were before. And I thought that was just a very interesting

00:26:42.580 encouragement. And he's absolutely right. I think of the parties in Germany, the AFD,

00:26:48.900 the alternative for Deutschland, which is like Geert Wilders party. I think that they if Geert Wilders

00:26:55.060 can become PM, that will encourage other countries to do the same. And that's why this is such an

00:27:00.100 important battle. And remember, they tried to strangle Brexit in the cradle when the Brexit

00:27:06.660 election happened in early 2016. People were shocked. They didn't believe it. And even the

00:27:11.940 government that held the Brexit referendum, which was a nominally conservative government,

00:27:15.860 didn't believe in it, didn't want it. They thought the referendum would just be a way to blow

00:27:19.220 off steam and say, look, no one agrees with this. They were shocked by it. And they spent years trying

00:27:24.580 to stop it from actually being fulfilled. And I think that they're going to try and do that to

00:27:30.180 hear builders. They're shocked by it. They're going to try and stop it from being fulfilled.

00:27:35.460 And that's why it's such an interesting race to follow. Okay, back to the interview.

00:27:38.900 Other countries like Canada, the Conservative Party is pretty conservative and pretty freedom oriented,

00:27:44.660 but it still has an open borders immigration policy. In the United Kingdom, the Conservative Party,

00:27:51.300 open borders policy every day across the English Channel. What advice would you give to freedom

00:27:57.940 oriented conservative parties who are obviously afraid of losing the vote of new immigrants?

00:28:07.140 What advice would you have for Canada or the United Kingdom?

00:28:09.860 Well, don't be afraid. First, don't be afraid. A lot of people will support you. Secondly,

00:28:15.220 it's a totally misconception that the immigrants would disagree because maybe for some people,

00:28:21.860 surprisingly, the immigrants agree. Many of the immigrants agree. For in Holland,

00:28:26.260 many of the immigrants, even many Muslims voted for my party because they know that when there is

00:28:32.100 too much influx of immigration, that the integration and the success for them will only diminish. So they 0.99

00:28:39.780 also are in favor of less immigration. They know, they see what will happen with the housing, with their

00:28:45.780 income, with the jobs or with everything. So surprisingly, it's not surprisingly, but surprisingly to

00:28:50.660 many people, they are often our allies. They don't want more immigrants to come as well. And the own 1.00

00:28:57.220 voters, the indigenous people, they in a growing majority also feel the same. So don't be afraid to be

00:29:04.900 politically correct or incorrect. Just state your mind. People believe, I always make the comparison

00:29:11.140 to one person's house. You know, you have to be able in your own house to decide who will be your

00:29:16.820 guest and when the guest should leave. This should be your autonomous and a nationwide and national

00:29:23.700 decision. In Holland, most of it, we gave those powers to the European Union. Canada is a sovereign

00:29:29.380 country. There is no European Union in Canada. So the Canadian government really can decide

00:29:34.900 to close the borders for people they don't want to enter, like President Trump did and is planning

00:29:41.380 to do if he would win next year by people from certain countries. So don't be afraid. Just do it

00:29:47.780 and you will be surprised how many people support it, including the immigrants themselves.

00:29:53.860 Well, that's undoubtedly true. I mean, incredibly, pollsters for the first time are starting to ask

00:29:59.620 questions about immigration, about diversity. Is diversity our strength? And I've seen it in a

00:30:05.700 number of newspapers. Leger, for example, Canada's one of Canada's most reputable pollsters. We've

00:30:11.460 actually done some work with them too, by the way. They show that if anything, people want less

00:30:16.100 immigration, not more. And people are doubting that diversity is our strength. Of course, there are some

00:30:20.820 benefits from having a mix of people from all over the world. That's undoubtable. But having a common 1.00

00:30:26.100 bond amongst us, common beliefs is more important. This is what the polls say. And I think Wilders is

00:30:32.740 right. If you are a new immigrant to a country, you're trying to fit in. You don't want to be picked

00:30:38.180 on. You want to be liked and trusted. And if so many immigrants are coming in that it's creating a 1.00

00:30:44.660 national crisis, you don't want that because you'll be on the brunt of any negative feedback. And I think

00:30:51.460 there's some truth to it. And just because someone themselves is an immigrant to Canada,

00:30:56.340 for example, doesn't necessarily mean that they want a million immigrants a year to Canada. Also,

00:31:02.900 not just because it may redound to their discredit, but because they also don't like housing prices

00:31:09.140 being driven up and wages being driven down. I think Wilders is right. Trouble is, we've never had

00:31:14.580 that chance. You know, I saw a tweet by our friend Candace Malcolm, the boss of True North the other day,

00:31:20.340 and someone was talking about Pierre Polyev being alt-right or far-right. And Candace Malcolm

00:31:27.300 posted this tweet, and I just want to read some of her skim it because she was right on. I mean,

00:31:31.780 how right-wing is Pierre Polyev? Does Polyev want to lower immigration numbers, focus on integration,

00:31:37.300 and abandon Canada's failed multiculturalism agenda? No. He barely mentions immigration and hasn't

00:31:43.940 committed to lowering levels from Trudeau's historic highs, doubling the number of annual newcomers.

00:31:48.660 Does Polyev oppose radical Islamists? No. He barely mentions radical Islamist ideology and

00:31:55.540 occasionally uses Islamist talking points like the ill-defined and always weaponized Islamophobia.

00:32:02.020 And then she asks other questions like, does he support protectionism and big government programs?

00:32:06.340 No. His focus is on sound monetary policy, curbing inflation, and lowering debt to GDP ratio.

00:32:13.300 I'll skip ahead. Does he want to protect kids from gender ideology? No. He voted for Bill C-4,

00:32:18.660 which makes it illegal for psychologists to offer anything but gender-affirming care to confused and

00:32:24.100 indoctrinated citizens. Anyhow, I won't read the whole tweet to you, but you know, just how right-wing is Pierre Polyev on

00:32:30.660 immigration and multiculturalism and Islam. There's actually no difference between him and Trudeau. Now,

00:32:38.020 someone might think, well, maybe he's just waiting to get elected before he reveals his true self.

00:32:43.300 I'm not sure if that hopeful approach to politics has ever worked in history.

00:32:47.940 There's no doubt about it. Pierre Polyev must win the next election, in my view, and Trudeau must be ousted.

00:32:54.260 But he is no right-wing conservative populist in the vein of Geert Wilders, at least not yet. But

00:33:02.340 you have to shape the political battlefield before your champion enters the ring. You can't expect

00:33:09.060 Pierre Polyev to be the cutting edge on issues. The political debate has to be opened up and chewed

00:33:15.220 over first for people to come to a national consensus to lower immigration, to get away from

00:33:20.980 diversity is our strength, equity, inclusion, to get away from transgenderism. And that's one of the important 1.00

00:33:26.500 rules of independent journalists, by the way. That's why I'm excited to see other media doing polls and talking

00:33:33.300 about these same questions. Okay, we're almost done the interview. Let's watch a little more.

00:33:37.460 I'm grateful to you for fitting us in your schedule. I know you have to leave in about three minutes.

00:33:41.940 Can I put some ideas to you and you can give me like a 30-second top-of-mind response?

00:33:47.700 What are your thoughts on Russia, Ukraine in 30 seconds, if it's possible?

00:33:51.860 Yeah. Well, I believe that Russia is the bad guy here. I believe that whatever you think of the 0.99

00:33:58.260 Ukraine, corrupt country, but it's a sovereign nation and Russia should not have started the war

00:34:08.260 against Ukraine. So I'm on the part of Ukraine here. I believe that the Dutch should not give 1.00

00:34:14.420 defense material to them because we have very little material ourselves and other nations are doing

00:34:21.460 it. And I believe there should be negotiations instead of a war. But I'm very clear that the

00:34:27.460 one who started it is Russia and nobody else. Isn't that interesting? He started off by saying,

00:34:32.260 Russia's the bad guy. And then he immediately said, well, that doesn't mean that we have to support 0.76

00:34:38.180 money or give money or give weapons or things like that. I think that's a principled position,

00:34:43.300 but you would never hear that in Canada either. There's such a lockstep by all the political

00:34:48.260 leaders. It's like, I mean, it is absolutely the entire political, military, media establishment

00:34:54.900 in Canada isn't just that Russia is wrong, which I think most people would probably agree with that. 1.00

00:35:01.540 I mean, invading another country is a violation of so many norms. But once you say that, as Wilder said,

00:35:08.260 does that mean we have to shovel money and military and refuse to even contemplate a diplomatic solution?

00:35:16.180 I don't know. I think Wilders has a more realistic position. It's more in line with Victor Orban.

00:35:21.380 And even though the Netherlands obviously is part of the Western alliance, I think it shows that other

00:35:26.660 countries have a more wide ranging debate about key issues like that than we do here in Canada. In many

00:35:32.500 ways, what Heert Wilders is saying is part of a conversation that I think many Canadians would

00:35:37.460 like to have, but we don't have it. And I think one of the reasons is their multi-party system. If you

00:35:44.020 really do have 20 parties in your parliament, that means you're going to have a wide range of opinions

00:35:49.140 on almost anything. We don't have that in our country. We have the Liberals and the Conservatives,

00:35:53.860 the only two parties ever to form government in the last century. You've got the NDP and the Bloc

00:36:00.260 Quebecois for some smaller agendas, but neither will likely ever win. And then you have a handful of

00:36:09.540 green candidates coming in at the margins, but you really don't have a diversity of opinion. I recall

00:36:16.580 this scene in the last federal election where all five party leaders essentially held hands and made a,

00:36:22.260 I don't know, like a public service announcement for vaccines. Do you remember this at the last

00:36:28.420 leaders debate where all five leaders basically agreed on everything? We're all in this together.

00:36:36.340 We've come so far in the fight against COVID. It's time to finish this pandemic for good. So get

00:36:41.220 vaccinated. If you know someone who hasn't, talk to them. For our kids, for our communities,

00:36:46.660 for our economy, it's how we get forward together. Vaccines are safe and effective for

00:36:52.820 use. Vaccines are the best way for you to protect yourself, your family and your community. So get

00:36:58.660 vaccinated. Let's fight COVID-19 together. Pour vous protéger vous-même, pour protéger les plus fragiles

00:37:04.820 d'entre nous, pour protéger l'ensemble de la population. Le meilleur moyen connu demeure le

00:37:09.700 vaccin. S'il vous plaît, soyez responsable. Soyez solidaires. Faites-vous vacciner. Merci.

00:37:16.500 We all agree getting vaccinated is the way forward. We're all in agreement this is not a partisan issue,

00:37:22.900 so please get vaccinated. We're united and it's time to get the shot. Vaccines save lives. They're how we're going to

00:37:30.260 beat COVID and it's time for everyone to do it. Get the shot. Get the shot. Yeah, I think in some

00:37:37.060 ways the Netherlands political system is healthier than ours. It's more complicated and it's more

00:37:42.660 messy, but I think it's freer than ours. What do you think? All right, back to the interview. How about

00:37:47.940 the war between Israel and Hamas? Any thoughts on that? Yeah, it's not a war about land. That is my message.

00:37:54.180 It's a war about ideology. If you give land, like my friend Ariel Sharon, I knew him very well. I was

00:38:01.060 his guest when he started to become a president, prime minister. I was at his funeral. I know him

00:38:07.300 for so many years. He was a great guy. One mistake he made was giving Gaza and return Gaza to the 0.97

00:38:14.980 to the Palestinians. Don't make the mistake that if you give part of land to Palestinians or others,

00:38:23.380 that the problem will be solved because it's not a problem of land. It's a problem of ideology. It's

00:38:28.900 people who hate, who like, who love death against people who cherish life. Israel is fighting our 0.92

00:38:37.220 war. We should support Israel because they have our values. They are a democratic nation. And if

00:38:44.580 Israel falls, I always say if Jerusalem falls, Rome, Paris, Amsterdam will be next. So 0.97

00:38:53.060 I support the decisions that Israeli make. They should make the decisions whether they 1.00

00:38:56.660 what they should do military or politically. But I believe we should all support Israel

00:39:01.540 all the way instead of criticizing them. You would never hear a statement so

00:39:05.940 strong in support of Israel by any political leader in Canada. And certainly not by the president

00:39:11.140 in the United States, Joe Biden, who in fact is putting handcuffs on Israel to limit its ability

00:39:16.020 to fight back. And again, this is something confusing to the liberal mind. Here is someone

00:39:21.540 they like to portray as alt-right or bigoted. And that's the most pro-Israel comment you'd ever hear.

00:39:26.180 I think he's been to Israel literally 40 times in his life, which is more than almost anyone else

00:39:31.620 I've ever heard of. I mean, the guy is a friend to the Jews. And I think that confuses some Jewish

00:39:37.380 liberals who like to paint anyone who's for controlled immigration and for integration as some sort of

00:39:43.460 racist. Bildich is not a racist at all. I thought that was a very interesting comment there. And

00:39:50.900 again, it's something that we don't have here in Canada now, do we? Came back to the interview.

00:39:55.140 I think I only have time for one last question. Earlier, you mentioned independent media like Rebel News.

00:40:01.780 In Canada and in the United Kingdom and in Ireland and many countries, there are new censorship laws.

00:40:07.220 You yourself have been prosecuted for hate speech. Are you worried about global censorship, New Zealand,

00:40:14.340 places like that? What are your thoughts on censorship? No, I'm very worried about that. It's that

00:40:18.900 that the governments, the parties, the institutions that know that they cannot win on the base of

00:40:25.780 arguments, that they are afraid for opponents to speak the truth. And even if they don't consider

00:40:31.620 it the truth, it is an opinion and people should be informed by both ways. I don't mind if there are

00:40:37.700 government institutions or government television, but there should also be free speech for almost

00:40:42.420 everything. I really long for a kind of First Amendment that the Americans have, that we should have,

00:40:49.460 that Canada should have, that the whole free world should have. We should never accept that they would

00:40:57.140 not allow us to speak our minds. And stations like Rebel Media and yourself are the most important today.

00:41:07.300 I believe many more people follow you and watch your programs than they did 10 years ago for exactly the

00:41:14.100 reason. Not only because you have a good program, because they have no alternative to look at. So,

00:41:18.500 so this is also why politics is important. We had in Holland, and now in the last few months,

00:41:23.380 we had this new public broadcaster called Ongehoord Nederland. They were within the public system,

00:41:31.140 but they were very critical. And the all elite said we should forbid them because they said something

00:41:35.860 wrong about whatever, and they didn't like it. And finally, now after the elections, when they saw that my

00:41:41.620 party was big, the secretary of media said that they could stay in the air, and they should not have

00:41:50.740 to shut down. And I don't know if it's a direct result of our winning the elections, but it's too

00:41:55.300 much of a coincidence that they did it a few days after the elections. So again, here, political power,

00:42:00.980 fighting for freedom of speech against what the elite wants to do and not to let us speak the truth

00:42:09.940 is the only way, and we will get there. I mean, if the winning of the PVV means anything for other

00:42:18.740 nations is that there is hope for change. Congratulations again, and thank you for your time

00:42:24.740 today. Thank you for coming here. Well, I really enjoyed that, and I was grateful to him for his

00:42:28.660 compliments. Of course, he did an interview with me years ago when Rebel News was much smaller,

00:42:34.740 and when he and his party were smaller. I'm flattered that he remembered that. I actually went on tour with

00:42:39.220 him across Canada. That's when I first saw the massive security entourage he needs to protect

00:42:44.500 him from all the fatwas. Very interesting. Again, I was very honored to be given the opportunity to be

00:42:50.740 the first non-Dutch journalist to interview him after his election result. I went on the CBC website,

00:42:56.900 cbc.ca, and I typed in Heertbuilders in the search bar, and at least when I did this a couple days ago,

00:43:03.780 there was only one story about it, and it wasn't even a CBC written story. It was some,

00:43:08.260 you know, repurposed wire copy from Associated Press or something, which is odd because there's a lot

00:43:14.500 of Dutch people in Canada, and the Netherlands is a fair-sized country. It's not as big as Canada,

00:43:18.820 but it's about half our population, and in any event, this is a momentous occasion. It's a very

00:43:26.340 interesting result, but the CBC doesn't want to talk about it. They don't want to give him any credit.

00:43:31.220 They're hoping that the election will be taken from him in some way, and I think a lot of CBC viewers

00:43:38.100 would be confused because the CBC has not talked about him. They've sort of pretended he doesn't

00:43:42.100 exist, and I've always said that that is actually the worst form of bias in the media. Not how they

00:43:47.700 cover a story, but whether they cover a story at all to begin with. I mean, you can see that in the

00:43:53.300 crazy world of transgenderism. Every transgender issue, even if it's a one in a thousand people who 1.00

00:44:00.980 care about it, is given enormous coverage because the CBC is actually promoting the narrative,

00:44:08.180 whereas important news is often completely blacked out. I think that's a way that the news is controlled.

00:44:15.380 Well, there you have it. My thoughts on the interview. I mean, there were so many things I

00:44:19.380 wanted to say in the moment when he was talking about, I don't know if you heard that when he said,

00:44:23.220 you know, it's Jerusalem today, it's Rome tomorrow. That's his way of saying, you know,

00:44:27.220 once the Islamists are done killing the Jews, they're not done. Then they'll move on to the 0.96

00:44:32.900 Christians. And I don't know if you saw this the other day, you know, in New York City,

00:44:35.940 one of the great traditions of that city is I think it's in front of Rockefeller Center. They

00:44:39.860 have this enormous Christmas tree. Like it's got to be one of the tallest trees in America. It's

00:44:44.660 brought to New York City every year on a huge long flatbed truck. And they like the Christmas

00:44:49.780 tree. It really is a magical downtown New York City, Manhattan moment. And it's a Christmas thing.

00:44:56.420 It's not political. It's mildly Christian. And by that, I mean, it's it's not just for Christians.

00:45:02.740 It's not a particularly religious moment, but it is the Christian holiday and it's Christian people.

00:45:08.260 And absolutely, it's a Christian thing, but it's not just a Christian thing, I'm saying. I mean,

00:45:12.260 Jews, we're having a Christmas party at Rebel News. I'm not Jewish, but we have a Christmas party.

00:45:16.820 But look at the violence, the riots that happened in New York by pro-Hamas extremists.

00:45:25.220 They're not targeting Jews this time. They're targeting Christmas. Take a look.

00:45:36.260 Yeah, that's what Wilders is talking about. Jerusalem today, Rome tomorrow. That's his way of saying

00:45:41.460 they're going for the Saturday people first and then the Sunday people. Well, thanks for watching

00:45:47.620 that review of my interview. It was really exciting. And I'm grateful to I had a video

00:45:52.500 from Monsanto who accompanied me on that whistle stop tour. By the way, we were set to come back

00:45:58.100 just 36 hours on the ground. And then we ran into a snag and we were trapped at the Amsterdam airport

00:46:03.140 for 27 hours, which put a test to my famous patients. But I'm glad to be home and I'm not going

00:46:10.020 to go anywhere for days. Stay with us. Our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed is next. 0.92

00:46:26.980 Well, thanks for watching that here at Wilders interview with me. It really was a journalistic

00:46:31.620 feather in my cap. I was so grateful for the opportunity. But listen, there's important news

00:46:35.300 going on in Canada. And one of the roles we have is to hold the NDP to account because the CBC and

00:46:40.980 the rest of the regime media, they never really do. Whether it's Jack Mead Singh or Rachel Notley,

00:46:46.820 they're more in the form of cheerleaders than actual journalists. Luckily, we have a real journalist 0.78

00:46:50.580 on our team. Her name is Sheila Gunn-Reed. She's our chief reporter and she broke some news

00:46:56.020 about the NDP in Alberta. Sheila joins us now from her home in the Edmonton area. Sheila,

00:47:00.980 great to see you again. Thanks for having me on the show, boss.

00:47:03.700 Well, it's my pleasure. You know, I enjoy covering dramatic international stories from time to time,

00:47:09.140 but Canada is our home. And, you know, Jordan Peterson says, you want to save the world? Start

00:47:14.660 by cleaning up your room. We want to save the world, but we also have to pay attention to local

00:47:19.620 matters, including Rachel Notley's NDP. What's the latest on her?

00:47:24.980 You know, this is where I started. I feel like I've come full circle holding the NDP to account

00:47:30.500 on behalf of the people. What happened is that we received some leaked court documents from 2019.

00:47:38.820 And they involved somebody named Ben Aldritt. Now, that might not be a name that a lot of

00:47:44.420 people know, but he is frequently quoted in the media as being an NDP spokesperson.

00:47:48.500 In fact, when all of this went down, he was the chief of staff to Sarah Hoffman,

00:47:53.620 our health minister at the time. In December 2018, Ben Aldritt was arrested in a prostitution sting

00:48:01.220 in Edmonton. And we know that because he made his first court appearance on it in January. And

00:48:10.180 the NDP hushed this up because that was just four months before the election, wherein

00:48:18.340 the United Conservative Party's Jason Kenney would sweep into power. And so they wanted to make sure

00:48:22.820 that nobody knew anything about a staffer in their midst being accused of sexually exploiting

00:48:30.260 vulnerable women. And I'm making an assumption here that it's a woman just based on, you know,

00:48:35.700 the overwhelming majority of these cases happen to be women. But if you look at Ben Aldritt's Twitter

00:48:40.740 account, you might not know because he's got his pronouns in there. He calls himself a spouse and not

00:48:45.300 a husband. He said he's the parent of a child, not the father of a son or daughter. So, you know,

00:48:50.900 I'm making a lot of assumptions here. But the NDP hushed this up. And for years,

00:48:56.260 they put Ben Aldritt on a leave of absence quietly. But he recently came back into the fold.

00:49:03.940 In 2021, he's quoted as a spokesperson for the NDP. And in 2022, I believe he was the director of

00:49:13.060 communications for the NDP caucus. This went through two election cycles and not a single

00:49:19.300 member of the mainstream media touched this story. I assume they probably knew about it. But if they

00:49:25.780 didn't, they know now. And you know what? They haven't uttered a single word on this. And if you

00:49:31.220 know that this was UCP, the mainstream media would be lighting their hair on fire about this.

00:49:37.700 You know, any crime is a serious matter. If you're in the government, you have to be law abiding.

00:49:43.620 I'm not saying that there's no such thing as redemption or people paying their price and coming

00:49:48.500 back. I actually, as I get older, I believe in second chances more, as long as you're contrite

00:49:54.580 and have done a penance of some sort. But there's something, a special character to sex crimes,

00:50:01.700 uh, especially prostitution. It's not just, you know, it's not shoplifting or a drug offense,

00:50:08.500 uh, where frankly, I mean, and a lot of crimes are sort of victimless crimes, uh, especially on the

00:50:14.820 drug side. I think, well, it's probably not true. Your family is a victim. But when you engage in

00:50:20.500 female trafficking, it is always under duress. And there's an exploitation there that is very

00:50:27.460 political and it's what feminists claim to be against. And that's why I think this is so noteworthy,

00:50:33.620 is that the NDP will tell you that conservatives hate women and they are the champions of women. 0.56

00:50:39.780 But here you have someone who, who exploited, trafficked women who many, in many cases, they're,

00:50:48.340 they have some psychological problems, some mental health problems. They're, they're being, uh,

00:50:54.340 abused and exploited by pimps and human traffickers. They are in an extreme position. And for a man to

00:51:01.860 come and take advantage of them and for that man to be in a feminist party is so gross. But how 1.00

00:51:08.660 different is that from Trudeau who sexually assaulted, uh, Rose Knight in BC and then later said,

00:51:14.100 oh, she experienced it differently. There's nothing worse than a male feminist, Sheila. 1.00

00:51:18.820 And this guy apparently is a male feminist. If you go through his Twitter account, and I did,

00:51:24.340 it's nothing but repeated instances where he's accusing the United conservative party about not

00:51:29.460 caring about women and in particular racialized women to use his language. Well, guess who the 0.81

00:51:34.980 majority of sex workers are on the streets of Edmonton racialized minority women. And this guy was 1.00

00:51:41.700 exploiting them for his own sexual means. I'm reliably informed by the NDP that they don't care for the

00:51:47.780 commodification of women's bodies, but they kept this guy in their midst. They covered up for him 0.92

00:51:54.180 and then brought him back into the fold and gave him a promotion after all of it.

00:52:00.660 Well, you know, let's not forget that Jack Layton, Saint Jack Layton of the NDP was caught in a brothel

00:52:08.500 uh, massage parlor in, in Toronto by police with young immigrant women. And the police gave him a pass 0.86

00:52:17.140 and the media gave him a pass and it finally came out through citizen journalists. And I think the Toronto

00:52:21.620 Sun to their credit did a story on it, but it was just completely forgotten about. And no mainstream

00:52:28.900 reporter would dare sully themselves by asking a grubby little question like that. It was as if

00:52:34.180 it was, oh, that's just Jack's private life. It's not a private life when you're exploiting

00:52:39.140 minority immigrant women who have been trafficked. And, and just for Jack Layton to, to pass himself

00:52:45.620 off as a male, there's nothing grosser. I think of Jeanne Gomeshi of the CBC who actually had a women's

00:52:51.780 studies degree. And it's obvious now in retrospect, why? That's where the women are. It's like asking Al 0.99

00:52:57.300 Capone, why do you, why do you rob banks? Well, that's where the money is. Why did you join,

00:53:03.140 why did you get a women's studies degree? Because that's where the women are. And these serial abusers, 1.00

00:53:09.540 they are preemptively feminist to put everyone else on the back foot so you won't think that they're, 1.00

00:53:17.780 that they're sexual predators and to preemptively take away. I mean, I'm certain that Trudeau's entire

00:53:24.500 feminist shtick is just a preemptive defense against questions about things like when he 1.00

00:53:29.620 sexually assaulted Rose Knight in Creston, BC. It's so gross. What, what's he doing now? 0.98

00:53:34.420 Is he still with the NDP? That's not clear. Um, he says he works in freelance communications,

00:53:41.380 but like I said, up until very recently, he was being quoted in media reports as working for the NDP.

00:53:47.700 When I did this story, he had the NDP URL, the link back to the website in his Twitter bio. So,

00:53:56.660 and even worse, I can't get the NDP to respond to this. I can't get him to respond to this in an

00:54:03.060 effort to be a responsible journalist. I reached out to both sides and, um, we just, we are doing our

00:54:09.380 best to get to the bottom of this. And like I said, if this were the UCP, it doesn't matter what the

00:54:14.500 press conference is about. They would be absolutely hammered with questions about this,

00:54:19.380 but all the mainstream media journalists have their blinders on. We even published the documents

00:54:24.180 so that people don't have to believe us that so that the mainstream media journalists, lazy little

00:54:29.380 people that they are, they could take my work and turn up at a press conference and ask a question.

00:54:34.260 They haven't done a single thing on this. Yeah. And they wonder why no one trusts the mainstream

00:54:39.380 media anymore. Sheila, great work, great journalism. Thank you. Keep it up. And, uh,

00:54:43.540 I'm glad you are holding the NDP to account because the raging media certainly are not.

00:54:49.300 Stay with us. You're, uh, actually my final thoughts next.

00:55:04.980 Well, thanks for your patience. And I should have thanked Sheila for hosting 0.97

00:55:08.420 my show. When I was on my journey to the Netherlands, I think it was worth it to sit

00:55:12.900 down with a newsmaker, uh, the man who's likely to be the next prime minister of the Netherlands.

00:55:18.980 It felt like, uh, a moment where rebel news sort of proved that we can play with the big boys,

00:55:23.860 even beat them being the first non Dutch journalists to interview here builders and to

00:55:29.300 see what's going on there. Because those issues, wasn't that an interesting interview,

00:55:33.620 the way he talked about indigenous Dutch people standing up for themselves and about stopping 0.97

00:55:38.100 wasting money, sending it outside the country and the crazy war on nitrogen. And it sounded even

00:55:43.460 crazier just hearing that, but we do the same on guy. I think there were a lot of things to learn

00:55:47.780 there and his advice to parties in the West, including in, in Canada. I thought that was very

00:55:52.980 useful. I'm going to think about this interview for a long time. And if he does become prime minister,

00:55:56.980 which I hope he does, I've got to have a keen interest in that country because I've got a bit

00:56:01.300 of a connection to their boss now. And, um, I hope to keep in touch as news warrants. That's our show for

00:56:08.340 today. Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night

00:56:14.820 and keep fighting for freedom.

00:56:26.980 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - December 02, 2023

Ezra Levant breaks down exclusive interview with Geert Wilders

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