Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Britain's proud legacy： A feature interview with David Atherton

00:00:00.000 You know, maybe I think too much about the United Kingdom. I'm not sure if that's true.

00:00:03.840 I like their poetry. I like their history. I like their architecture. I find their politics

00:00:08.320 interesting. It's a little bit different than ours, but close enough that I see the similar

00:00:12.140 themes. But mainly I find it, as I always say, a dystopian time machine. What happens there today

00:00:17.880 will happen to us in five years, especially on issues such as censorship and mass immigration,

00:00:23.000 which, by the way, are linked. Today we're going to talk to David Atherton, who's been really in

00:00:28.520 the front line of criticizing and punditing and journalism-ing. That's our feature interview

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00:00:58.520 Tonight, a conversation with the curmudgeonly David Atherton, a British pundit and columnist.

00:01:20.140 We'll talk about everything going on there. It's September 4th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:24.960 You know, I'm born and raised in Western Canada, my family being out there since 1905. In Canada,

00:01:46.880 that makes me an old-timer. Of course, 1905 is just a blink of an eye in the history of the United

00:01:52.360 Kingdom, which goes back many centuries. And in fact, the history of the UK, in a way,

00:01:57.240 is the history of Canada, is the history of the West, the history of the rule of law, of parliaments,

00:02:04.000 of democracy. So many ideas, including economic ideas, philosophical ideas. And it was the mighty,

00:02:13.180 I think you could say the word race of Brits. I mean, it's an indigenous culture that had the

00:02:18.580 greatest empire known to man. And there was a fighting culture. If you go to the United Kingdom

00:02:22.880 today, you see many statues of lions at Queen Victoria's monument outside Buckingham Palace.

00:02:30.060 Giant lions. At Trafalgar Square, honoring the great hero who beat the Spanish. Lions. That's how

00:02:38.800 they regarded themselves. And I think that's how the world regarded them. Until very recently,

00:02:44.580 where they were told they should be hated, not proud. And they should, in fact, hate themselves.

00:02:50.660 And that the British Empire, far from being the greatest political assemblage in history,

00:02:55.620 was something to be ashamed of. Even though it brought democracy, the rule of law, and the English

00:02:59.960 language to the world, it's the reason why India has a space program. It's the reason why India

00:03:06.440 is a democracy. It's the reason why Canada is what it is. Just small examples. Anyways,

00:03:11.760 one of my favorite things to do is find old traditions in the UK and just wrap my mind around them. Like,

00:03:21.720 look at this. This is something called the Atherstone ball game. And it's a game. And it's played once a

00:03:31.960 year. And it's an enormous medicine ball. And really, there are no rules other than don't kill anyone.

00:03:40.680 It's a, it's a, it's sort of a, all against all. It's an old British tradition. And it's a little bit

00:03:48.920 crazy. And ethnically, those are indigenous Brits. That's, that's not a modern cross section of

00:03:58.800 central London. That's the Anglo-Saxons. That's the indigenous Brits. That's one of their fun games,

00:04:09.000 a little bit crazy. You can go online and Google Atherstone ball and get a real chuckle out of it.

00:04:15.680 And you can see that fighting spirit. There's some lads wearing track suits, having fun. Those are

00:04:21.060 marshals trying to make sure no one's truly hurt. What a hoot, eh? What a strange thing.

00:04:26.800 And I say that because I thought our next guest had a pen name named after the Atherstone ball,

00:04:36.000 because his name is David Atherton. But he assures me he is of no relation. Even though I put it to

00:04:41.000 you, he has that same fighting spirit of the Atherstone ball game and of Brits of days gone by.

00:04:50.060 His name is David Atherton. He's a broadcaster. He joins us now from London. David, what a pleasure

00:04:55.160 to meet you. And you, Ezra. Thank you very much for inviting me on. I don't know what that

00:04:59.500 introduction was about, other than I truly thought that you were a pen name named after that crazy

00:05:05.040 ball game. I don't know that much about the Atherstone ball game. I can't get anyone in my

00:05:09.540 family to agree to go on a tourist trip to see it firsthand. They don't find it as interesting

00:05:14.440 as I do. But that looks like a great game. Sure. Well, it's like a lot of games that, you know,

00:05:20.360 that Canada and North America plays and Britain plays. They come from the Middle Ages. In fact,

00:05:25.760 that game played in Atherstone. It was typical of the games that were played within village. Often it

00:05:30.500 was village against village. The idea was to take your ball or your object from one village to the

00:05:36.200 other and the other team does the opposite end of it. Now, where baseball is based on is

00:05:42.880 stall ball. It's a documented game in England in the Middle Ages. I think it's first documented in 1340,

00:05:48.660 something like that, whereby you literally had a three-pronged stall and people would throw a ball

00:05:56.120 at it and you did it with your hand. It's the basis of baseball and cricket to this very day.

00:06:02.440 You know, it's a little bit grubbier than the fancy jousting contests in medieval days where

00:06:08.080 knights in shining armor, where there was a lot of rules. I don't think there's a lot of rules

00:06:11.480 in the Atherton's ball. Anyways, I apologize for spending so much time on it. It's just my way of

00:06:16.720 laughing at myself because I thought you were such an iconic Brit. I've been following you on Twitter

00:06:21.460 for years and I thought there's no way this is a real guy. I thought this is someone playing the role

00:06:27.880 of a Brit who refuses to accept the decline and dismemberment of the country.

00:06:36.820 Sure, yeah. I'm a bit of a student of history. And, you know, it is, what's the word, fashionable is the word I'm looking for.

00:06:46.140 For the Marxists who have strolled through our institutions and run culture in this country,

00:06:52.100 to denigrate Britain to the nth degree. When I think, you know, of course individual atrocities were committed by the British Empire,

00:07:00.720 but also at the same time, we exported democracy, the freedom of the individual. We exported engineering, medicine.

00:07:11.820 We built, for example, 41,000 miles of railways in India in Victorian times. And they've only added 30,000 since we left in 1947.

00:07:22.020 Also, for example, in India as well, we brought eight times more land into farming.

00:07:27.100 And in the time that Britain was in India, the population doubled.

00:07:32.120 You know, I think we've done a lot of good for the world.

00:07:35.340 And most of the places that we have gone to, we have left something behind of our British, English and British common law.

00:07:41.600 Yeah, I think you can track pretty much the most successful, newly independent countries of the world

00:07:47.440 are the ones that were under British government.

00:07:51.580 I mean, even the Middle East.

00:07:53.160 If you look at the contrast of the Spanish and the Portuguese empires of South and Central America,

00:07:58.760 many only recently became vaguely democratic in the 1970s.

00:08:04.740 And much, much, much of South America is still still run by despots and dictators.

00:08:09.840 You know, you look at the way how easily Brazil has turned into a bit of a tyrannical type.

00:08:17.700 They banned X, they banned free speech, and I think they banned Bolsonaro for the next election as well.

00:08:24.460 You know, our freedoms are hard fought, and they're so easy to lose.

00:08:30.200 You're so right.

00:08:30.920 I mean, I was going to say, look at the Middle East.

00:08:33.340 Would you rather be in Jordan, which was British, or Syria, which was French?

00:08:37.740 Would you rather be in the Bahamas or in, you know, in Haiti?

00:08:44.160 Yeah.

00:08:45.820 You know, I wish...

00:08:47.020 I looked up their GDP, their head figures on that the other day.

00:08:51.360 Haiti is $1,600 per year per person, and the Bahamas is $38,000.

00:08:57.880 That's the difference between British and French rule as well.

00:09:01.540 You know, I sometimes talk about, and this is apropos of nothing,

00:09:05.040 I'm just going to enjoy having a conversation with you, but I do promise our viewers,

00:09:08.540 I'm going to bring it back to the current events in the UK.

00:09:10.900 We're going to talk about the current abominations being emanated from Parliament

00:09:14.420 and the abuse of the rule of law.

00:09:16.100 That's not the opposite.

00:09:16.440 And I just want to enjoy my Anglophilia for a little bit.

00:09:20.360 I'm a bit of a fan.

00:09:23.200 Everywhere you go, colonization and empire are in disrepute,

00:09:26.040 disrepute, but if someone was truly interested in multiculturalism

00:09:31.740 and truly interested in history, they would see how astoundingly moral it was.

00:09:36.260 I'll give you the example of Central America.

00:09:38.860 I'll give you the example of the Aztec Empire,

00:09:42.440 whose capital, Tenochtitlan, which is now Mexico City.

00:09:45.660 When they reconsecrated the Great Pyramid there,

00:09:50.120 they killed, according to one reputable scholar, up to 80,000 people.

00:09:56.820 They sacrificed.

00:09:58.200 They cut them open, pulled out their beating heart,

00:10:00.360 and threw their bodies down the pyramid.

00:10:03.280 That's why Mel Gibson made his movie Apocalypto,

00:10:06.320 to show the absolute horror of pre-imperial Mexico.

00:10:12.560 And whatever you want to say about the conquistadors,

00:10:15.020 and they were not gentle men,

00:10:16.900 but when they came, they saw, they thought they were in hell.

00:10:22.600 They thought they were in an amoral,

00:10:25.440 just murdering tens of thousands of people.

00:10:30.420 A lot of children as well, yeah.

00:10:31.900 And the Brits, when they came to India,

00:10:33.920 they were cultural practices like sati, like burning widows alive.

00:10:38.840 They started that.

00:10:40.260 So whatever you say about the Brits.

00:10:41.800 A cult of thuggy as well.

00:10:43.140 Yeah, sure, go ahead.

00:10:44.000 I interrupted you.

00:10:44.900 Yeah, a cult of thuggy.

00:10:46.160 There were people in India that thought,

00:10:49.860 so it's where we get the word thug from.

00:10:52.780 There are Indians, you know,

00:10:53.700 who thought they could go around murdering

00:10:55.000 and maiming people at will.

00:10:56.880 And it was the British who put a stop to it.

00:10:59.080 And as you say with sati,

00:11:00.280 you know, the widow who was alive

00:11:03.140 was burnt at the stake with a dead husband.

00:11:06.060 That's only one of the few things,

00:11:07.880 culturally, we interfered with in India.

00:11:09.620 We never touched the caste system or anything like that.

00:11:13.200 And, you know, I think India, for example,

00:11:15.580 had about no more than 10,000 civil servants and something.

00:11:19.700 Sorry, I think 10,000 civil servants ran the empire.

00:11:22.500 And there were only about 100,000 troops in India

00:11:25.020 over a population of something like 300 million.

00:11:27.360 I always think that in countries like India,

00:11:32.200 the British rule with a great deal of consent

00:11:35.360 from the population,

00:11:36.700 they saw honest government come in, you know.

00:11:38.660 So, you know, if someone took your house

00:11:41.220 or your land off you,

00:11:42.580 you could go and speak to the local commissioner

00:11:44.380 and he'd give it back to you, you know,

00:11:45.880 if you've got the deeds of their house

00:11:47.080 and you've got evidence that it is yours.

00:11:49.040 Whilst, you know, at the previous time,

00:11:51.820 someone took it off you,

00:11:52.720 there was nothing they could do about it at all.

00:11:55.200 My favorite poet, other than Shakespeare,

00:11:57.760 of course, is Rudyard Kipling.

00:11:59.300 And if I'm not mistaken, he was born in India

00:12:01.400 and deeply loved the place.

00:12:03.580 Now, he uses some language that we don't use these days.

00:12:07.580 He was more blunt about race.

00:12:10.120 But anyone who thinks he didn't love Indians

00:12:12.340 hasn't read his poem, Ganga Din,

00:12:15.000 where he praises an Indian water carrier.

00:12:18.900 The last line of the poem,

00:12:20.180 you're a better man than I am, Ganga Din.

00:12:21.760 So I'm going to read a line from his poem

00:12:25.740 called The White Man's Burden.

00:12:28.140 And you would never use that phrase in 2024.

00:12:31.400 But it's basically what the British,

00:12:36.720 in his mind, were trying to do in India.

00:12:39.900 Take up the white man's burden,

00:12:41.900 the savage wars of peace.

00:12:44.680 Fill full the mouth of famine

00:12:47.140 and bid the sickness cease.

00:12:50.400 And when your goal is nearest,

00:12:51.960 the end for others sought.

00:12:53.520 Watch sloth and heathen folly

00:12:55.020 bring all your hopes to naught.

00:12:56.520 And it goes on like that about

00:12:57.700 the best people of the UK

00:13:00.960 should be sent around the world

00:13:02.600 to fight famine,

00:13:04.080 to fight disease,

00:13:05.200 to build things up,

00:13:06.460 to end.

00:13:07.480 Like, and he called it

00:13:08.760 The White Man's Burden.

00:13:10.080 And the other side would say,

00:13:11.540 well, you're enriching yourself.

00:13:13.560 So he did, yeah.

00:13:14.220 And it would be true,

00:13:15.440 but they enriched every country

00:13:17.020 they attended

00:13:17.580 even more than they enriched themselves.

00:13:19.880 Well, indeed,

00:13:20.500 five out of the top,

00:13:22.500 top ten wealthiest countries

00:13:25.180 in Africa

00:13:26.400 were originally part of the British Empire.

00:13:29.660 There are two countries in Africa

00:13:30.940 that were never conquered by Europeans.

00:13:33.700 Liberia,

00:13:34.640 which was settled by a full slave

00:13:36.320 from America.

00:13:37.420 Ethiopia.

00:13:38.520 I know Liberia is the fourth

00:13:41.080 poorest country in the world.

00:13:42.740 I think Ethiopia is something like

00:13:46.340 the 20th poorest country in the world.

00:13:49.060 You know,

00:13:49.720 generally speaking,

00:13:51.640 you look at the wealth of North America,

00:13:55.700 you look at the wealth of,

00:13:56.700 the relative wealth of Canada

00:13:57.960 and Australia, New Zealand,

00:13:59.820 Singapore,

00:14:00.940 wherever we went.

00:14:02.880 I don't know, Hong Kong as well.

00:14:04.720 By the way,

00:14:05.640 Hong Kong is probably

00:14:08.480 the richest province in the world.

00:14:10.120 The average person

00:14:12.720 earns $80,000 a year

00:14:14.560 in American money.

00:14:16.800 And, you know,

00:14:17.320 when we left,

00:14:20.020 when we left Hong Kong in 1999,

00:14:21.860 you could genuinely see

00:14:24.100 the sorrow in the eyes

00:14:25.380 of the Hong Kong people there.

00:14:27.440 Because we came in again

00:14:29.100 with good rule

00:14:31.220 and honest rule as well.

00:14:32.740 you were able to make your money

00:14:36.440 without any interference

00:14:37.620 from the state.

00:14:38.380 Few regulations.

00:14:39.900 It really was a classical

00:14:40.880 liberal-oriented place.

00:14:43.020 And to this very day,

00:14:44.380 we're still accepting Hong Kong people

00:14:45.980 into this country.

00:14:46.820 I think something like

00:14:48.280 a million Hong Kongers

00:14:49.340 have taken advantage

00:14:52.120 of our passport scheme

00:14:53.280 and came to the UK.

00:14:54.840 And I'll tell you what,

00:14:55.900 Ezra,

00:14:56.380 they're very welcome

00:14:57.160 because they're not going to rely

00:14:58.740 upon the state.

00:14:59.440 They're going to set up

00:14:59.960 loads of businesses,

00:15:01.120 create loads of jobs

00:15:02.240 and wealth.

00:15:02.980 And good luck to them.

00:15:04.300 You know what?

00:15:05.140 I have been to Hong Kong

00:15:07.080 and they're very proud

00:15:08.700 of their British traditions.

00:15:10.840 During the,

00:15:12.180 I guess it was 2019,

00:15:15.080 when there was freedom protests

00:15:18.300 and democracy protests

00:15:19.280 against new laws

00:15:20.980 emanating from Beijing

00:15:22.380 that would basically end

00:15:24.460 the freedom of Hong Kong.

00:15:26.420 We sent some Rebel News

00:15:27.340 reporters over there

00:15:28.300 and it was so amazing to watch

00:15:30.680 that the culture of freedom

00:15:32.420 that the Brits had planted

00:15:33.900 those seeds a century ago

00:15:35.420 had bloomed.

00:15:36.220 And we came across one man.

00:15:37.800 I wasn't there personally,

00:15:38.980 but our team was there

00:15:40.100 and it was a heartbreaking interview

00:15:41.880 with an elderly man

00:15:43.680 who said,

00:15:44.300 please can the British come back?

00:15:47.140 And I want to show

00:15:47.800 that clip to you now.

00:15:49.260 And I got to tell you,

00:15:50.140 heartbreaking.

00:15:51.640 And for all I know,

00:15:52.760 this guy's in jail

00:15:53.580 for saying it.

00:15:54.780 Here's a Chinese man

00:15:55.900 we met in Hong Kong

00:15:56.900 who said,

00:15:57.840 please,

00:15:58.300 the British come back.

00:15:59.540 Take a look.

00:16:00.080 The British government

00:16:00.980 to come back

00:16:01.580 and rule us again.

00:16:02.680 We don't want

00:16:03.840 the Chinese government

00:16:04.520 to rule us anymore.

00:16:06.180 You want the British

00:16:07.040 to come back?

00:16:07.820 Yes, of course.

00:16:09.440 The Chinese government

00:16:10.120 is terrible.

00:16:11.500 What's your message

00:16:12.300 to people who call

00:16:13.520 the old British government

00:16:14.740 a colonial power

00:16:16.400 that used to abuse

00:16:18.120 the entire world?

00:16:20.760 No.

00:16:21.580 Simply we just want

00:16:22.740 the British government

00:16:23.360 to come back

00:16:23.980 and rule us again.

00:16:25.600 Is that simple?

00:16:26.820 Okay.

00:16:27.360 So you think

00:16:27.760 the British did well?

00:16:28.540 The British government

00:16:30.180 did very well.

00:16:31.240 Of course.

00:16:32.080 And do you doubt

00:16:32.860 that across

00:16:33.820 the Commonwealth,

00:16:35.880 millions,

00:16:37.100 maybe billions of people

00:16:38.080 have said the same thing?

00:16:40.000 That's why Kipling

00:16:40.740 called it

00:16:41.300 a white man's burden.

00:16:43.620 Yeah.

00:16:44.000 It is your job,

00:16:45.400 your moral duty

00:16:46.280 to go on into the world

00:16:47.240 and cure sickness

00:16:49.040 and bring an economic system

00:16:51.460 and lift people up economically.

00:16:54.000 Sure.

00:16:54.160 And here's my point,

00:16:56.580 and we've been talking now

00:16:57.400 for almost 20 minutes

00:16:59.100 and we haven't even talked

00:17:00.860 about what we were going

00:17:01.500 to talk about today,

00:17:02.400 which is the UK today.

00:17:04.000 A little bit of a tangent,

00:17:04.760 haven't we?

00:17:05.040 Yeah.

00:17:05.500 And all the self-loathing

00:17:06.920 that is taught

00:17:07.480 from every institution.

00:17:09.480 Maybe Brits have decided

00:17:11.300 to hate themselves,

00:17:12.700 but the rest of the world

00:17:13.920 still sees the greatness

00:17:15.840 of Britain,

00:17:16.940 which is why they all

00:17:17.600 want to go there.

00:17:18.180 You can be a refugee

00:17:20.440 in Germany or France,

00:17:22.180 and many are,

00:17:23.440 but the dream,

00:17:24.800 the gold pot

00:17:26.820 at the end of the rainbow

00:17:28.020 is get on a dinghy

00:17:29.680 in Calais, France,

00:17:31.560 sail across to Britain.

00:17:33.700 That is the ultimate destination

00:17:36.240 for anyone in the world.

00:17:38.800 Yeah.

00:17:39.000 And so while the Brits

00:17:40.400 may hate themselves,

00:17:41.380 or at least official Britain does,

00:17:42.920 and they certainly hate

00:17:44.040 those working class whites

00:17:46.180 I showed playing

00:17:46.900 the Attiston ballgame.

00:17:48.320 Sure.

00:17:48.780 The rest of the world

00:17:49.660 sees what an incredible

00:17:51.020 present and past

00:17:52.840 the UK has,

00:17:53.500 and they all want

00:17:53.880 to move there.

00:17:55.220 Yeah, sure.

00:17:56.120 Yeah, also as well,

00:17:57.300 Britain,

00:17:57.600 when it comes to

00:17:58.480 channel of migration,

00:18:00.040 it's such a soft touch.

00:18:01.940 When these people,

00:18:03.860 you know,

00:18:04.040 when they arrive in the UK,

00:18:05.700 most are sent to Manston,

00:18:08.200 where it used to be

00:18:08.860 an RAF based

00:18:10.180 in the Second World War,

00:18:11.560 where they're sort of

00:18:12.060 fingerprinted,

00:18:13.080 and most of them

00:18:13.820 throw their passports

00:18:14.580 and ID in the water,

00:18:15.940 and they're sort of

00:18:16.780 fingerprinted.

00:18:17.460 I don't know

00:18:17.900 what they're DNA,

00:18:19.240 but certainly

00:18:19.600 they're fingerprinted.

00:18:20.940 And they have found

00:18:21.880 some terrorists there as well.

00:18:24.140 So then after that,

00:18:25.020 they're then sent

00:18:25.660 up to a four-star hotel,

00:18:28.400 you know,

00:18:28.600 something that you pay

00:18:29.440 maybe $200 a night for,

00:18:31.680 and they stay there

00:18:32.540 for maybe six months a year

00:18:34.040 until their case

00:18:37.220 for asylum is reviewed.

00:18:38.780 In the meantime,

00:18:39.280 they get three meals a day,

00:18:40.980 they get £42 a week

00:18:42.700 spending money,

00:18:44.080 you know,

00:18:44.360 courtesy of the state,

00:18:45.200 and they're free

00:18:45.980 to come and go

00:18:46.540 as they're pleased.

00:18:47.240 You know,

00:18:47.680 it really is one of the best

00:18:49.000 pay holidays they'll ever have.

00:18:50.700 Some work in the black market,

00:18:53.260 some have been dealing in drugs,

00:18:55.460 some work in car washes

00:18:56.680 at supermarkets,

00:18:58.440 and also as,

00:18:59.700 you know,

00:19:00.660 deliveroo-type drivers,

00:19:03.560 you know,

00:19:03.760 sort of people

00:19:04.200 who come out of the bike

00:19:04.960 to give you a pizza

00:19:06.420 and Uber Eats

00:19:07.260 and what have we.

00:19:08.680 So, yeah,

00:19:10.020 yeah,

00:19:10.360 it really is the life of Brian,

00:19:11.980 and if they get

00:19:13.400 their temporary leave

00:19:14.140 to remain,

00:19:15.040 they're then given

00:19:15.840 a one-bedroom flat.

00:19:18.020 Some of the ones

00:19:18.760 I've been seeing recently,

00:19:21.200 there's a severe housing shortage

00:19:23.040 caused partly by immigration,

00:19:25.100 legal and illegal

00:19:26.120 at the moment,

00:19:27.360 and something like,

00:19:28.900 you know,

00:19:29.320 they've been given,

00:19:30.480 you know,

00:19:30.700 what would be thought

00:19:31.380 to be well-appointed

00:19:32.320 $2,000-a-month apartments.

00:19:34.920 No,

00:19:35.080 they're not brief flats.

00:19:36.040 Flats being sort of down-market

00:19:37.920 apartments being

00:19:38.680 posh flats,

00:19:40.020 if you like.

00:19:40.900 No,

00:19:41.040 these are given

00:19:41.740 some up-market,

00:19:42.740 you know,

00:19:43.340 premium flats.

00:19:45.080 And also as well,

00:19:47.240 when it comes

00:19:48.280 to the social housing,

00:19:49.800 there are some immigrants

00:19:51.260 over here

00:19:51.880 who are really,

00:19:52.720 really taking the mickey.

00:19:54.000 Apparently 50%

00:19:55.280 of social housing

00:19:56.660 in Britain

00:19:57.160 is given to people

00:20:00.260 who aren't born there.

00:20:01.860 And I think with Somalis,

00:20:02.980 something like,

00:20:03.640 72% of Somalis

00:20:05.020 who have been allowed

00:20:06.160 to settle here

00:20:06.880 live in social housing,

00:20:08.660 you know,

00:20:08.920 which is subsidized

00:20:10.040 because most of them

00:20:10.920 don't work either.

00:20:12.220 State pays their rent

00:20:13.400 for them

00:20:13.880 and they just,

00:20:14.700 again,

00:20:15.120 just have the life

00:20:15.700 of Riley

00:20:16.160 and there's nothing

00:20:18.160 they have to do

00:20:19.060 to earn their keep

00:20:21.080 over here.

00:20:21.720 They're a massive burden

00:20:22.820 on our society.

00:20:24.160 And in fact,

00:20:24.480 the last six quarters

00:20:25.900 of GDP per head,

00:20:27.760 per capita,

00:20:28.720 has actually gone down

00:20:29.940 because of the burden

00:20:30.700 of immigration.

00:20:32.020 It's the same thing

00:20:32.520 in Canada.

00:20:33.500 Justin Trudeau

00:20:34.140 is juicing

00:20:34.960 the immigration numbers.

00:20:36.320 He's bringing in

00:20:36.820 record numbers.

00:20:37.440 I don't think

00:20:37.780 you'll believe me,

00:20:38.640 but he's bringing in

00:20:39.480 two million people

00:20:40.880 this year

00:20:41.320 in a country

00:20:42.120 that is only

00:20:43.100 two-thirds the size

00:20:43.840 of the UK.

00:20:44.360 Two million.

00:20:45.680 One million

00:20:46.160 he's calling students.

00:20:48.220 Another

00:20:48.500 750,000

00:20:50.960 are temporary workers

00:20:52.680 who are never

00:20:53.180 sent home.

00:20:54.080 So right there,

00:20:54.580 1.75 million.

00:20:56.300 I think that's as large

00:20:57.120 as the entire UK

00:20:58.080 and you're 50%

00:20:59.780 bigger than us.

00:21:00.680 We're running

00:21:01.240 at about a million.

00:21:02.360 We're running

00:21:02.660 at about a million.

00:21:03.240 By the way,

00:21:04.480 here's a little

00:21:06.340 mini conspiracy theory.

00:21:09.680 Somebody,

00:21:10.580 a journalist

00:21:11.020 has sat down

00:21:11.900 and got the figures

00:21:12.880 for mobile cell phones,

00:21:15.540 the number of contracts

00:21:16.320 issued,

00:21:17.180 looked at the sewerage output,

00:21:18.920 food consumption,

00:21:19.640 the supermarkets,

00:21:21.020 and officially

00:21:21.900 our population

00:21:23.220 is about 67

00:21:24.860 to 69 million,

00:21:25.920 something like that.

00:21:27.140 They actually think

00:21:27.760 the real population

00:21:28.680 of Britain

00:21:29.040 is 77 to 80 million people.

00:21:30.980 that's based on,

00:21:32.440 as I say,

00:21:33.000 that's 80.

00:21:33.580 Because no one's

00:21:34.100 ever deported.

00:21:35.240 You know,

00:21:35.780 I don't know why

00:21:37.040 whenever I think of the UK

00:21:37.940 I think of poetry

00:21:38.680 because of course

00:21:39.400 the English language

00:21:40.280 may well be

00:21:41.300 the greatest gift

00:21:42.060 that the UK

00:21:42.600 has given the world.

00:21:44.060 and Shakespeare,

00:21:46.920 who never missed a trick,

00:21:49.420 he was praising England.

00:21:53.120 Sure.

00:21:53.600 He referred to the English Channel

00:21:55.700 as one of its key assets.

00:21:57.460 Let me read.

00:21:57.980 He called it

00:22:00.980 the royal throne of kings.

00:22:03.260 He said,

00:22:04.620 this happy breed of men,

00:22:06.540 this little world,

00:22:07.660 and then here's how

00:22:08.380 he described it geographically.

00:22:10.040 This precious stone

00:22:12.100 set in the silver sea

00:22:14.560 which serves it

00:22:16.120 in the office of a wall

00:22:17.480 or as a moat

00:22:18.960 defensive

00:22:20.220 to a house.

00:22:21.980 If you look at

00:22:22.900 the English Channel

00:22:23.660 and think of it

00:22:24.240 as a moat

00:22:25.180 to protect the castle,

00:22:27.580 that's brilliant.

00:22:28.720 And that's exactly

00:22:29.280 what it always has been.

00:22:30.400 Going back to the Spanish,

00:22:31.560 going back to the Germans.

00:22:32.760 The Germans wanted to invade

00:22:34.080 but that moat saved them.

00:22:36.500 Well, there is an invasion

00:22:37.740 going on,

00:22:38.380 a D-Day in reverse.

00:22:39.980 Literally every day

00:22:40.980 boats bring hundreds of people

00:22:42.420 and instead of being sent back

00:22:44.000 they're being sent

00:22:44.500 to these four star hotels

00:22:45.580 that you mentioned.

00:22:46.600 Why aren't you

00:22:47.800 defending the moat?

00:22:50.940 Well, I can't work out

00:22:55.200 why there is

00:22:56.220 such a lack of will

00:22:57.680 to stop this.

00:22:59.840 You know,

00:23:00.820 theoretically

00:23:02.440 we can't physically

00:23:03.700 return.

00:23:04.500 Under maritime law

00:23:05.640 we can't return these people

00:23:06.620 because they're technically illegal.

00:23:08.740 But apparently

00:23:09.400 the excuse is

00:23:10.420 the French won't

00:23:11.000 let us in their waters

00:23:12.160 to let them take them back.

00:23:13.960 It might be

00:23:14.640 kind of a punishment

00:23:15.440 punishment beating

00:23:16.340 because we left

00:23:18.540 the EU in 2016.

00:23:21.060 And that just might be

00:23:21.740 a spiteful way

00:23:22.400 of getting back to us.

00:23:23.160 But the point is

00:23:24.000 if the French

00:23:24.760 don't stop it

00:23:25.580 and stop it now

00:23:26.520 the pit will just be

00:23:27.500 coming and coming

00:23:28.240 and coming

00:23:28.680 and there will be

00:23:30.400 no stop to it.

00:23:31.760 Until Britain is as poor

00:23:32.920 as the third world countries

00:23:33.940 they came from

00:23:34.600 there will be no end

00:23:36.300 to this illegal immigration

00:23:38.040 that's going on.

00:23:39.940 You know,

00:23:41.080 Australia a few years back

00:23:42.640 was getting lots of boats

00:23:43.940 coming down

00:23:44.640 and Australia could be

00:23:45.740 swamped in a minute

00:23:46.360 because they have a population

00:23:47.660 of only, I don't know,

00:23:48.420 25, maybe 30 million people

00:23:50.180 and they're just

00:23:51.380 across the water

00:23:52.280 from Indonesia

00:23:53.520 from, frankly,

00:23:55.600 a little further away

00:23:56.100 from China.

00:23:57.000 So if they weren't careful

00:23:58.400 they could literally

00:23:59.340 be overwhelmed.

00:24:01.020 So they brought in a policy

00:24:01.980 I'm not sure

00:24:02.360 if it's still in effect

00:24:03.080 where they would capture people

00:24:04.740 and take them

00:24:05.580 to, I think it was called

00:24:07.400 Christmas Island

00:24:08.240 which was an island

00:24:09.080 of Australia

00:24:09.920 and they would process

00:24:11.400 them there

00:24:11.920 and they would either

00:24:12.980 send them back

00:24:13.740 or if they were

00:24:15.200 genuine refugees

00:24:16.720 they had a deal

00:24:17.820 with a little country

00:24:18.660 called Nauru

00:24:19.180 one of the world's

00:24:20.740 smallest countries

00:24:21.540 and they would pay

00:24:22.660 Nauru, I don't know

00:24:23.360 $10,000

00:24:23.980 to take these migrants

00:24:25.540 and they'd say

00:24:25.980 okay, you're in danger

00:24:28.120 for your life

00:24:28.760 you convinced us

00:24:29.800 but you don't get to choose

00:24:31.240 you're not going to Sydney

00:24:33.120 or Melbourne

00:24:34.120 you're going to Nauru

00:24:35.300 you'll be safe there

00:24:36.420 and so they genuinely

00:24:38.120 helped those

00:24:38.680 genuinely in need

00:24:39.620 but they sent a signal

00:24:40.960 to the rest of the boats

00:24:42.100 if you think you're going

00:24:43.100 to be going to Melbourne

00:24:44.060 or Sydney

00:24:44.940 you're wrong.

00:24:46.260 Now I know the UK

00:24:46.960 had an idea of doing this

00:24:48.100 with the East African country

00:24:50.020 called Rwanda

00:24:50.980 but it was just a ruse

00:24:53.620 it was a trick

00:24:54.480 that the last

00:24:55.740 Conservative government

00:24:56.500 played talking a lot

00:24:57.420 we're going to send

00:24:57.920 people to Rwanda

00:24:58.540 I don't think a single

00:25:00.080 person was ever sent

00:25:01.740 to Rwanda

00:25:02.260 but they sure talked

00:25:03.120 about that plan

00:25:03.840 and now Labour

00:25:04.760 is saying no

00:25:05.300 we're just going

00:25:05.740 to take them all.

00:25:06.320 Sure.

00:25:06.900 Well one person

00:25:07.560 volunteered

00:25:08.180 One person eh

00:25:10.960 that's not bad

00:25:11.820 Perhaps I like the beaches

00:25:14.300 on the lake

00:25:14.960 but I don't know

00:25:15.680 but apparently one person

00:25:17.080 and the joke was

00:25:18.100 that more journalists

00:25:18.860 have been to Rwanda

00:25:19.540 than the immigrants

00:25:21.080 but right

00:25:22.440 well whether

00:25:23.820 it seemed to

00:25:25.720 seem to actually work

00:25:26.980 because

00:25:27.480 to a certain extent

00:25:29.020 because a lot of the

00:25:30.440 people over in France

00:25:32.140 were reluctant

00:25:32.660 to risk the crossing

00:25:34.260 until the Labour Party

00:25:35.820 came into power

00:25:36.680 and it was one

00:25:38.420 of the election

00:25:38.780 pledges

00:25:39.620 of Rwanda

00:25:40.120 one of Labour's

00:25:41.740 election pledges

00:25:42.580 they were stopped

00:25:43.820 they wouldn't send

00:25:44.960 anybody to Rwanda

00:25:46.280 but one of the

00:25:47.220 Conservative Party

00:25:48.200 leadership campaign

00:25:49.120 is James Clevery

00:25:49.900 that said he might

00:25:50.840 reintroduce it

00:25:51.740 should he be elected

00:25:52.960 but yeah

00:25:54.000 I think the difference

00:25:55.120 between Australia

00:25:55.740 and Britain

00:25:56.180 was Australia

00:25:56.760 likes to get things done

00:25:57.900 and we like

00:25:59.840 to sort of

00:26:00.280 look at the dots

00:26:01.820 we like to dot our eyes

00:26:03.940 and cross our T's

00:26:04.880 on international law

00:26:06.460 and adhere to it

00:26:07.680 and

00:26:08.440 it was a slight

00:26:10.340 well it's not

00:26:10.880 conspiracy theory

00:26:12.420 but Robert

00:26:13.300 Robert Jenrick

00:26:14.260 used to be

00:26:15.340 the immigration minister

00:26:16.340 under

00:26:17.620 I think

00:26:18.040 I think it was

00:26:18.680 Suella Braveman

00:26:19.400 and he resigned

00:26:20.740 he resigned

00:26:21.620 because he wanted

00:26:22.780 to cut immigration

00:26:23.620 and he wasn't allowed to

00:26:25.180 he wrote an article

00:26:26.220 for The Telegraph

00:26:27.000 and said

00:26:27.400 one of the reasons

00:26:28.640 why

00:26:29.280 everyone's so keen

00:26:31.500 about immigration

00:26:32.320 is because

00:26:33.360 after politics

00:26:34.160 they want

00:26:34.640 they want

00:26:35.040 a job

00:26:35.500 with an

00:26:36.160 international NGO

00:26:37.660 or an international

00:26:38.780 agency like

00:26:39.740 UNESCO

00:26:40.340 or United Nations

00:26:41.580 or Amnesty International

00:26:43.000 or something like that

00:26:44.780 so the reason

00:26:45.560 they're so pro-immigration

00:26:47.380 is so

00:26:47.780 they don't

00:26:48.640 muddy the waters

00:26:49.920 for their job prospects

00:26:51.180 after they

00:26:52.240 leave politics

00:26:54.460 well I think

00:26:55.320 there's a lot of reasons

00:26:55.980 I mean I was in

00:26:56.740 Dundrum Ireland

00:26:58.480 a few months ago

00:27:00.800 where the town

00:27:02.540 the village

00:27:03.220 of around 200 souls

00:27:05.000 it's a very tiny place

00:27:06.260 200 people in the village

00:27:07.520 the local hotel

00:27:09.160 country club

00:27:09.760 golf course restaurant

00:27:10.760 like it's a wonderful place

00:27:11.900 has a contract

00:27:13.120 with the government

00:27:13.960 to bring in

00:27:15.200 280

00:27:16.780 migrant men

00:27:19.140 and

00:27:19.900 with the possibility

00:27:21.360 to expand them

00:27:21.940 many more times

00:27:22.540 so

00:27:22.820 immediately

00:27:23.880 the village

00:27:24.800 of Dundrum

00:27:25.380 will now be

00:27:25.900 majority

00:27:26.780 migrants

00:27:27.880 and

00:27:28.120 why would this happen

00:27:29.520 who would do this

00:27:30.580 well

00:27:31.220 the hotel owner

00:27:32.320 he has a secret contract

00:27:34.400 it's terms have not

00:27:35.200 been disclosed

00:27:35.800 he's

00:27:36.640 he's making

00:27:37.260 millions

00:27:38.120 personally

00:27:38.740 and think about all the

00:27:39.960 think about all the

00:27:40.840 different people

00:27:41.400 who make money

00:27:42.020 in Canada

00:27:42.640 they come in as

00:27:43.720 foreign students

00:27:44.780 so you have all these

00:27:45.640 Potemkin village schools

00:27:47.820 these diploma mills

00:27:49.220 who are selling

00:27:49.900 tuition

00:27:51.020 for 10 or 20 grand

00:27:52.260 they're really just

00:27:53.040 selling a visa

00:27:53.680 so there's a lot of

00:27:54.540 people

00:27:54.880 in that Ponzi scheme

00:27:57.020 whether it's

00:27:58.180 immigration consultants

00:27:59.480 or landlords

00:28:00.620 I mean the price of

00:28:01.700 housing in Canada

00:28:03.020 is skyrocketing

00:28:03.820 same in the UK

00:28:04.500 because you bring in

00:28:05.840 millions of people

00:28:06.880 they need to stay somewhere

00:28:08.040 and that's the fake

00:28:09.000 GDP growth

00:28:10.020 you were talking about

00:28:11.180 before

00:28:11.440 on a per capita basis

00:28:12.500 we're all getting poorer

00:28:13.720 but you bring in

00:28:14.740 hundreds and hundreds

00:28:15.460 and hundreds of migrants

00:28:16.440 a day

00:28:16.780 it's thousands in Canada

00:28:17.980 someone has to

00:28:19.660 build a home

00:28:19.880 it's very much

00:28:20.820 a net outflow

00:28:21.620 of money as well

00:28:22.400 a lot of them

00:28:23.680 send their money back

00:28:24.480 send billions of pounds

00:28:26.060 back home every year

00:28:27.020 to their families

00:28:27.660 in the third world

00:28:28.940 they come from

00:28:29.540 now there's economic

00:28:31.420 reasons why this

00:28:32.240 doesn't make sense

00:28:33.020 but for me

00:28:34.360 far more important

00:28:35.480 are the cultural reasons

00:28:36.460 let me say a quick thing

00:28:37.280 about Dundrum

00:28:37.900 there actually were

00:28:40.040 Ukrainian families

00:28:41.900 staying at that hotel

00:28:43.440 who were being evicted

00:28:45.040 to make way for

00:28:46.240 we were told

00:28:46.720 Somali and Nigerian

00:28:48.200 and I think Afghan

00:28:49.480 migrants

00:28:50.420 and believe it or not

00:28:51.800 the locals said

00:28:52.400 well the Ukrainians

00:28:53.920 they're families

00:28:54.580 so it's not just

00:28:55.320 military age

00:28:56.160 single men

00:28:57.200 there's obviously

00:28:59.640 some commonality

00:29:00.660 I mean they don't

00:29:01.320 they do learn English

00:29:02.640 but they

00:29:03.100 you know

00:29:04.060 there's some Christian

00:29:04.840 commonality

00:29:05.700 there's some cultural

00:29:06.720 commonality

00:29:07.360 frankly I didn't

00:29:08.720 actually meet

00:29:09.800 anyone who was

00:29:11.200 against helping

00:29:12.280 because it also felt

00:29:13.400 very temporary

00:29:14.060 you're helping

00:29:15.080 these Ukrainian families

00:29:16.120 while the war

00:29:16.900 is going on

00:29:17.660 people could see

00:29:18.700 the rationale

00:29:19.740 they weren't being

00:29:20.620 tricked or lied to

00:29:21.980 they could see

00:29:23.360 the end of it

00:29:25.000 when the war

00:29:25.960 is resolved

00:29:26.720 these people

00:29:27.740 were fitting culturally

00:29:28.960 and just on a

00:29:30.120 personal level

00:29:30.880 they were integrating

00:29:31.860 like I actually

00:29:32.660 I gotta tell you

00:29:33.280 I went there

00:29:33.760 extremely skeptical

00:29:34.780 Ireland's taken

00:29:36.400 100,000 Ukrainians

00:29:37.740 which in a population

00:29:38.560 of 5 million

00:29:39.240 would be like

00:29:39.880 would be like

00:29:41.200 a million and a half

00:29:42.100 in the UK

00:29:42.540 or a million in Canada

00:29:43.820 so there wasn't

00:29:45.360 a beef with that

00:29:46.240 it was the cultural

00:29:47.940 fit of Somali

00:29:49.540 Palestinian

00:29:50.380 Pakistani

00:29:51.240 people who

00:29:52.500 come under

00:29:54.320 false pretenses

00:29:55.280 they're not actually

00:29:56.240 refugees

00:29:56.840 do not integrate

00:29:58.580 and have different

00:30:00.580 social values

00:30:01.420 especially in terms

00:30:02.600 of violence

00:30:03.280 or minorities

00:30:04.300 or women

00:30:04.860 to me the economics

00:30:06.400 is a part of it

00:30:07.540 but much more

00:30:08.640 terrifying is the

00:30:09.620 cultural side

00:30:10.460 well you know

00:30:12.680 the government

00:30:13.400 in this country

00:30:13.960 on channel

00:30:15.040 immigration

00:30:16.080 and illegal

00:30:16.980 immigration

00:30:17.440 from third world

00:30:18.640 countries

00:30:19.100 is all very much

00:30:20.360 covered up

00:30:20.980 I'm told that

00:30:21.960 the government

00:30:22.300 does keep

00:30:23.540 a record

00:30:25.660 of who the

00:30:26.640 perpetrators

00:30:27.300 and who the

00:30:27.640 victims are

00:30:28.320 but they don't

00:30:28.980 publish them

00:30:29.520 because they're

00:30:30.000 horrific

00:30:30.520 there is

00:30:32.040 there was one

00:30:33.280 freedom of information

00:30:34.080 request

00:30:34.640 that was sent

00:30:35.680 to the Dorset police

00:30:36.500 which is in the

00:30:37.220 southwest of England

00:30:38.100 and they just

00:30:41.500 wanted to bar

00:30:42.020 chart a number

00:30:43.880 of rapes

00:30:44.340 in the last

00:30:44.940 20 years

00:30:46.220 and they found

00:30:47.480 that Bournemouth

00:30:49.500 is on the coast

00:30:50.260 it's got loads

00:30:51.160 of hotels there

00:30:52.160 and so they put

00:30:52.740 loads of asylum

00:30:53.600 seekers there

00:30:54.320 and they track

00:30:55.240 more of their

00:30:56.000 own kind

00:30:56.820 there as well

00:30:57.300 once they get

00:30:58.040 established in

00:30:58.600 flats and apartments

00:30:59.420 and what have we

00:31:00.060 and they found

00:31:02.720 since 2014

00:31:03.880 there's been a

00:31:04.960 four-fold increase

00:31:06.160 in rape

00:31:06.800 you might not

00:31:08.700 let's you know

00:31:09.180 some people

00:31:10.620 might say

00:31:11.240 well maybe women

00:31:12.160 feel a little

00:31:12.760 bit more confident

00:31:13.700 reporting a rape

00:31:14.520 to the police

00:31:14.960 these days

00:31:15.380 which is probably

00:31:16.300 true to a greater

00:31:17.220 or lesser extent

00:31:18.080 but nevertheless

00:31:20.080 I should imagine

00:31:20.980 a lot of that

00:31:21.920 is down to

00:31:23.720 the channel

00:31:24.480 migrants

00:31:24.840 and associated

00:31:25.740 migrants

00:31:26.140 down there

00:31:26.840 certainly

00:31:27.620 when you go

00:31:28.800 through the papers

00:31:29.620 and you put

00:31:30.340 into the

00:31:30.880 search engine

00:31:31.880 rape

00:31:32.560 a lot of the

00:31:33.940 people that are

00:31:34.580 actually being

00:31:35.480 convicted

00:31:35.880 in jail

00:31:36.620 or being

00:31:37.120 charged

00:31:37.640 tend to be

00:31:38.420 of a migrant

00:31:38.880 background

00:31:40.600 well it's because

00:31:41.980 they come from

00:31:42.560 low trust societies

00:31:43.820 where women

00:31:44.960 would never go out

00:31:46.160 uncovered

00:31:47.080 or without

00:31:48.040 a male escort

00:31:49.140 probably their

00:31:51.740 only interaction

00:31:52.920 with western women

00:31:53.720 before they came

00:31:54.520 to the west

00:31:54.980 was through

00:31:55.820 searching pornography

00:31:56.860 that's my guess

00:31:57.760 so they would say

00:31:58.540 oh you're an

00:31:59.080 uncovered woman

00:31:59.980 wearing a short

00:32:00.940 skirt

00:32:01.360 you're drunk

00:32:02.780 you're out at night

00:32:03.780 instead of a

00:32:04.840 high trust society

00:32:05.620 where you'd hop

00:32:06.200 in a black cab

00:32:07.860 and they'd take

00:32:08.380 you home

00:32:08.680 and say

00:32:09.080 you be careful

00:32:10.080 young lady

00:32:10.700 they're being

00:32:12.540 treated as

00:32:15.520 a prize

00:32:16.740 ready to steal

00:32:17.680 like so many

00:32:18.400 other things

00:32:18.860 it's just part

00:32:20.040 of when a low

00:32:21.240 trust person

00:32:21.820 comes to a high

00:32:22.440 trust society

00:32:23.100 they can either

00:32:23.920 say oh my god

00:32:24.560 I'm in heaven

00:32:25.120 this is the

00:32:26.060 safest

00:32:26.400 happiest

00:32:26.900 most peaceful

00:32:27.420 place

00:32:27.740 or they can say

00:32:28.340 boy I'm going

00:32:29.320 to cut through

00:32:29.780 this place

00:32:30.240 like a hot knife

00:32:30.860 through butter

00:32:31.360 well in fact

00:32:32.320 if you've got

00:32:32.920 time

00:32:33.340 I'll read

00:32:34.120 read you

00:32:34.880 if I can

00:32:35.540 it was written

00:32:36.380 in the background

00:32:37.980 of the

00:32:38.980 2013

00:32:39.900 when seven

00:32:42.200 Pakistani heritage

00:32:43.300 men

00:32:43.800 were jailed

00:32:45.540 for

00:32:46.520 for rape

00:32:47.480 this is written

00:32:48.520 by a guy

00:32:48.940 called

00:32:49.300 an imam

00:32:50.120 called

00:32:50.420 Dr. Taj

00:32:51.560 Hage

00:32:51.940 and he

00:32:54.100 said that

00:32:54.700 the activities

00:32:55.380 of the

00:32:55.920 rapists

00:32:56.500 were bound

00:32:57.660 up with

00:32:57.980 religion

00:32:58.300 and raced

00:32:58.900 because all

00:32:59.700 the men

00:33:00.040 though of

00:33:00.480 different

00:33:00.680 nationalities

00:33:01.740 were Muslim

00:33:02.300 and they

00:33:03.020 deliberately

00:33:03.480 targeted

00:33:04.080 vulnerable

00:33:04.660 white girls

00:33:05.460 who they

00:33:06.160 who they

00:33:06.720 appear to

00:33:07.260 regard as

00:33:07.740 easy meat

00:33:08.380 also as well

00:33:09.460 what they

00:33:10.560 thought was

00:33:11.180 because they

00:33:12.480 wore short

00:33:13.200 skirts

00:33:13.660 and

00:33:14.600 sleeveless

00:33:16.360 tops

00:33:16.820 they were

00:33:17.720 fair game

00:33:18.420 and he

00:33:18.880 actually uses

00:33:19.940 the phrase

00:33:20.640 they deserve

00:33:21.600 to be

00:33:21.920 degraded

00:33:22.560 but

00:33:22.920 the imam

00:33:24.120 of the

00:33:24.380 local mosque

00:33:24.900 actually encouraged

00:33:25.600 him

00:33:25.800 go after

00:33:26.660 grooming

00:33:27.160 grooming

00:33:27.640 the girls

00:33:28.240 so

00:33:29.080 you know

00:33:29.620 and very few

00:33:30.700 people will

00:33:31.600 admit to that

00:33:32.220 level

00:33:32.560 you know

00:33:33.560 Majid Nawaz

00:33:34.780 who's a

00:33:35.460 Pakistani

00:33:36.020 Muslim

00:33:37.020 heritage

00:33:37.340 himself

00:33:37.940 is a

00:33:38.600 broadcaster

00:33:39.100 he's a bit

00:33:39.400 of a contrarian

00:33:40.120 and a dissident

00:33:40.800 and he used

00:33:42.120 to be a

00:33:42.460 radical

00:33:42.780 on the

00:33:43.900 Islam side

00:33:44.520 when he

00:33:44.780 was younger

00:33:45.220 he's a very

00:33:46.780 interesting

00:33:47.140 character

00:33:47.460 I don't agree

00:33:47.900 with everything

00:33:48.300 he says

00:33:48.700 but he

00:33:49.680 speaks

00:33:50.080 the truth

00:33:51.420 where others

00:33:51.900 sometimes

00:33:52.340 are afraid

00:33:52.860 to

00:33:53.120 here's a

00:33:53.880 video of him

00:33:54.600 on LBC

00:33:55.520 the British

00:33:56.240 radio channel

00:33:57.840 a few years

00:33:58.540 ago

00:33:58.820 talking about

00:34:00.060 the uncomfortable

00:34:00.940 subject

00:34:01.600 that 80%

00:34:02.840 plus

00:34:03.460 of the rapists

00:34:04.860 in these rape

00:34:05.480 gangs

00:34:05.880 that are targeting

00:34:06.860 almost exclusively

00:34:08.500 working class

00:34:09.580 white girls

00:34:10.340 and I say girls

00:34:11.140 because most of them

00:34:11.820 are as young

00:34:13.140 as like

00:34:13.880 11

00:34:14.180 they weren't

00:34:14.520 women

00:34:14.820 the average age

00:34:17.040 was about 13

00:34:17.860 and

00:34:18.800 and youngest

00:34:19.880 was 10

00:34:20.460 and

00:34:21.240 generally speaking

00:34:22.760 the rape

00:34:24.360 gangs

00:34:24.940 let them go

00:34:26.600 when they

00:34:27.160 were 16

00:34:27.740 here's

00:34:28.700 Majid Nawaz

00:34:29.300 talking about

00:34:30.060 the fact

00:34:30.800 that they

00:34:31.080 were

00:34:31.360 Pakistani

00:34:32.460 Muslim

00:34:32.840 men

00:34:33.180 doing it

00:34:33.880 and the

00:34:34.820 victims

00:34:35.180 were white

00:34:35.640 girls

00:34:35.820 take a look

00:34:36.340 at Majid

00:34:36.780 for too

00:34:37.340 long

00:34:37.540 in this

00:34:37.860 country

00:34:38.260 we

00:34:40.220 media

00:34:41.140 the

00:34:42.100 establishment

00:34:42.540 society

00:34:43.240 the

00:34:43.880 chattering

00:34:44.240 classes

00:34:44.720 the

00:34:44.980 liberal

00:34:45.280 elite

00:34:45.640 whatever

00:34:45.880 term

00:34:46.260 you

00:34:46.400 want

00:34:46.580 to

00:34:46.720 use

00:34:47.120 have

00:34:47.880 ignored

00:34:48.460 the

00:34:49.200 issue

00:34:49.420 of

00:34:49.580 grooming

00:34:49.840 gangs

00:34:50.260 of

00:34:51.000 young

00:34:51.300 vulnerable

00:34:51.720 teenage

00:34:52.080 girls

00:34:52.480 who have

00:34:52.740 been

00:34:52.980 victimized

00:34:54.120 drugged

00:34:55.020 and raped

00:34:55.600 and abused

00:34:56.540 whether it's

00:34:58.200 the Rotherham

00:34:58.660 case

00:34:58.940 or all the

00:34:59.360 other cases

00:34:59.800 that were

00:35:00.080 replicated

00:35:00.620 across the

00:35:01.220 country

00:35:01.580 it is both

00:35:02.760 the conclusion

00:35:03.420 of the

00:35:03.980 prosecutor

00:35:04.520 in the

00:35:05.680 Rotherham

00:35:05.980 case

00:35:06.300 British

00:35:06.640 Pakistani

00:35:07.220 Muslim

00:35:07.600 Nazir

00:35:08.020 Avzil

00:35:08.400 or indeed

00:35:09.540 the official

00:35:10.240 inquiry

00:35:10.900 into why

00:35:11.760 it took so

00:35:12.300 long

00:35:12.540 for these

00:35:12.880 young

00:35:13.160 vulnerable

00:35:13.900 underage

00:35:14.560 girls

00:35:14.880 to get

00:35:15.820 justice

00:35:16.340 both of

00:35:17.420 those

00:35:17.700 concluded

00:35:18.440 that fears

00:35:19.480 of racism

00:35:20.100 prevented us

00:35:21.160 from coming

00:35:21.840 to the

00:35:22.120 defence

00:35:22.540 of vulnerable

00:35:23.280 underage

00:35:24.040 girls

00:35:24.420 fears of

00:35:25.120 racism

00:35:25.480 meaning

00:35:26.180 that the

00:35:27.160 state

00:35:27.580 was scared

00:35:29.080 that it would

00:35:29.820 be accused

00:35:30.480 of being

00:35:30.860 racist

00:35:31.480 if it

00:35:32.380 rightly

00:35:32.900 arrested

00:35:33.420 and prosecuted

00:35:34.380 British

00:35:35.000 Pakistani

00:35:35.620 largely

00:35:36.160 British

00:35:36.880 Pakistani

00:35:37.440 Muslim

00:35:37.860 men

00:35:38.800 in their

00:35:40.420 abuse

00:35:40.900 of

00:35:41.560 underage

00:35:42.160 white

00:35:42.720 teenage

00:35:43.360 girls

00:35:43.780 and so

00:35:45.520 from fear

00:35:46.520 of appearing

00:35:47.240 racist

00:35:47.800 there was

00:35:48.940 a silence

00:35:50.180 across the

00:35:51.500 country

00:35:51.860 as multiple

00:35:52.960 cases of

00:35:54.000 grooming gangs

00:35:54.580 emerged

00:35:55.040 up and down

00:35:55.920 the country

00:35:56.660 as evidenced

00:35:57.500 now due to

00:35:58.400 multiple

00:35:58.880 prosecutions

00:36:00.560 successful

00:36:01.260 prosecutions

00:36:02.020 but sadly

00:36:02.980 and unfortunately

00:36:03.680 too late

00:36:04.380 if we hadn't

00:36:05.620 all been

00:36:06.180 silent

00:36:06.760 if we had

00:36:07.940 all addressed

00:36:08.820 this issue

00:36:09.340 head on

00:36:09.900 when it

00:36:10.600 needed to

00:36:11.100 be addressed

00:36:11.660 when it

00:36:12.200 was time

00:36:12.720 to address

00:36:13.280 it

00:36:13.500 then the

00:36:15.320 void would

00:36:15.740 not have

00:36:16.000 emerged

00:36:16.540 for the

00:36:17.520 populist

00:36:18.100 agitators

00:36:18.860 to fill

00:36:19.580 that gap

00:36:20.220 and become

00:36:21.680 popular

00:36:22.180 actually

00:36:22.800 as a result

00:36:23.660 of addressing

00:36:24.200 what is a

00:36:24.940 legitimate

00:36:25.360 issue

00:36:26.120 they ended

00:36:26.620 up hijacking

00:36:27.540 what should

00:36:28.620 have been

00:36:28.900 the concern

00:36:29.580 of every

00:36:30.360 right-minded

00:36:30.980 citizen

00:36:31.480 in this

00:36:32.120 country

00:36:32.520 there have

00:36:33.320 been

00:36:33.580 multiple

00:36:34.320 cases

00:36:35.120 now

00:36:35.400 and it's

00:36:35.700 beyond any

00:36:36.240 level of

00:36:36.680 doubt

00:36:36.920 that there's

00:36:37.280 a disproportionate

00:36:38.440 number

00:36:38.760 of british

00:36:39.840 muslims

00:36:40.420 involved in

00:36:41.040 grooming gangs

00:36:41.660 against underage

00:36:42.940 white girls

00:36:43.820 and to say that

00:36:45.160 is to report

00:36:46.400 on the facts

00:36:47.440 it's not to be

00:36:48.840 racist

00:36:49.400 and if we're

00:36:50.460 backing away

00:36:51.060 from this

00:36:51.460 conversation

00:36:52.080 then all we're

00:36:52.980 doing is

00:36:53.720 leaving the

00:36:54.820 ground far

00:36:55.560 open

00:36:55.920 in what is a

00:36:57.340 legitimate issue

00:36:58.120 that requires

00:36:58.800 addressing

00:36:59.260 we're leaving

00:36:59.860 the ground

00:37:00.420 for the populist

00:37:01.440 to hijack that

00:37:02.320 legitimate issue

00:37:03.180 and make it

00:37:04.320 their own

00:37:05.020 for their own

00:37:05.800 nefarious purposes

00:37:06.860 it's hard to

00:37:07.940 talk about that

00:37:08.800 on tv

00:37:11.260 it's hard to

00:37:11.820 talk about that

00:37:12.400 if you're a

00:37:12.780 politician

00:37:13.240 because you'll

00:37:13.820 be cancelled

00:37:14.780 and called

00:37:15.280 far right

00:37:15.860 but i can

00:37:16.480 assure you

00:37:17.180 that the men

00:37:18.180 in playing

00:37:19.140 that atherstone

00:37:20.120 ball game

00:37:20.720 that is

00:37:21.120 indigenous

00:37:21.800 working class

00:37:23.060 brits

00:37:23.520 who aren't

00:37:24.220 fancy pants

00:37:25.100 who are

00:37:25.860 ordinary people

00:37:27.400 when they talk

00:37:28.700 to their mates

00:37:29.220 at the pub

00:37:29.760 when they talk

00:37:30.300 to each other

00:37:30.940 without the

00:37:31.960 bbc

00:37:32.620 watching their

00:37:33.940 use of

00:37:34.420 pronouns

00:37:34.960 they're talking

00:37:36.180 about this

00:37:36.920 and i think

00:37:37.740 things have

00:37:38.180 finally come

00:37:38.760 to a flash

00:37:39.300 point in the

00:37:39.800 uk

00:37:40.120 two things

00:37:42.520 in a row

00:37:42.800 you had the

00:37:43.180 july 4th

00:37:43.920 general election

00:37:44.680 where you had

00:37:45.660 five islamist

00:37:47.580 mps elected

00:37:49.080 four are

00:37:49.640 muslim background

00:37:50.860 one's jeremy

00:37:51.480 corbyn

00:37:51.920 you have five

00:37:52.860 members of

00:37:53.400 parliament

00:37:53.720 who ran on

00:37:54.660 explicitly pro-gaza

00:37:56.300 islamist extremist

00:37:58.240 agenda

00:37:58.680 and they won

00:37:59.540 and they're not

00:38:00.760 even labor party

00:38:01.700 members

00:38:01.980 they're independents

00:38:02.680 that's how strong

00:38:03.720 this extremism

00:38:05.060 is in certain

00:38:05.700 pockets

00:38:06.160 and the

00:38:08.200 labor party

00:38:08.760 is terrified

00:38:09.240 of this

00:38:09.660 because they

00:38:10.080 don't want to

00:38:10.380 be outflanked

00:38:10.980 on the left

00:38:11.300 just yesterday

00:38:12.020 they announced

00:38:12.820 a series of

00:38:13.480 sanctions against

00:38:14.280 israel

00:38:14.800 not in the

00:38:15.560 british interest

00:38:16.100 not in

00:38:16.440 nato's interest

00:38:16.940 not in the

00:38:17.280 military interest

00:38:17.940 absolutely to

00:38:19.440 appease this

00:38:20.260 and pull them

00:38:21.020 back into the

00:38:21.540 labor party

00:38:22.100 and then you

00:38:23.660 have scenes

00:38:25.500 of violence

00:38:26.400 like for

00:38:26.800 example

00:38:27.200 here's some

00:38:28.480 pakistani

00:38:29.500 heritage muslim

00:38:30.520 lads

00:38:31.020 with a violent

00:38:31.960 attack

00:38:32.440 in an airport

00:38:33.400 in manchester

00:38:34.440 no arrests

00:38:35.360 no charges

00:38:36.280 because there

00:38:37.780 would be riots

00:38:38.500 in the community

00:38:39.240 but when

00:38:41.040 indigenous brits

00:38:42.280 protest

00:38:42.860 and some of

00:38:43.660 them took the

00:38:44.220 protest too far

00:38:45.060 and went violent

00:38:45.780 massive police

00:38:47.440 response

00:38:48.020 mass arrests

00:38:49.260 mass denunciations

00:38:50.740 the prime minister

00:38:51.740 who's a former

00:38:52.260 chief prosecutor

00:38:52.920 himself

00:38:53.360 set up 24 hour

00:38:54.780 a day courts

00:38:55.380 just to bang

00:38:56.180 through these

00:38:57.060 basically white

00:38:58.800 working class

00:38:59.780 brits

00:39:00.160 some of them

00:39:01.120 for violence

00:39:01.740 to be sure

00:39:02.300 but many of

00:39:03.720 them for

00:39:04.180 thought crimes

00:39:05.760 word crimes

00:39:06.380 one said

00:39:06.920 this isn't

00:39:07.380 britain anymore

00:39:07.960 one said

00:39:08.480 you cops

00:39:09.120 aren't even

00:39:10.500 doing your

00:39:11.280 duty anymore

00:39:11.840 one was

00:39:12.540 arrested for

00:39:13.060 gesticulating

00:39:14.080 at cops

00:39:15.060 what does that

00:39:15.400 mean

00:39:15.500 giving him

00:39:15.900 the finger

00:39:16.220 one for

00:39:16.660 shouting

00:39:17.040 at a police

00:39:17.940 dog

00:39:18.200 now i'm

00:39:18.500 not for

00:39:18.820 shouting

00:39:19.100 at police

00:39:19.520 dogs

00:39:19.840 but that

00:39:20.400 doesn't

00:39:20.660 deserve

00:39:20.940 two years

00:39:21.360 in prison

00:39:21.840 and all

00:39:22.720 these examples

00:39:23.340 i've just

00:39:23.720 given are not

00:39:24.300 for me

00:39:25.120 this is the

00:39:25.660 police force

00:39:26.220 boasting

00:39:26.920 about people

00:39:28.060 who they

00:39:28.900 jailed for

00:39:29.580 what they

00:39:30.000 said on

00:39:30.520 twitter or

00:39:31.060 said on

00:39:31.520 small private

00:39:32.720 groups

00:39:33.000 so you have

00:39:33.920 mass rape

00:39:35.180 mass violence

00:39:36.100 mass rioting

00:39:37.100 by migrants

00:39:38.580 or descendants

00:39:39.720 of migrants

00:39:40.360 and the police

00:39:41.180 are extremely

00:39:42.040 careful with

00:39:42.800 that

00:39:43.100 and then you

00:39:44.180 have white

00:39:44.920 working class

00:39:45.680 brits who

00:39:46.160 notice

00:39:46.820 that's one

00:39:47.960 definition of

00:39:48.600 being politically

00:39:49.120 incorrect

00:39:49.560 you're noticing

00:39:50.500 things you're

00:39:51.180 not supposed

00:39:51.580 to notice

00:39:52.100 off to jail

00:39:53.400 for them

00:39:54.340 i think that

00:39:55.520 there's a deep

00:39:56.100 problem in the

00:39:56.720 uk right

00:39:57.260 now and

00:39:58.200 most people

00:39:59.080 are ignoring

00:39:59.980 it other

00:40:00.760 than nigel

00:40:01.380 farage and

00:40:01.920 the reform

00:40:02.360 uk and a

00:40:03.020 few others

00:40:03.400 we can talk

00:40:03.860 about in a

00:40:04.220 minute

00:40:04.400 well just

00:40:05.600 come back

00:40:06.040 to a couple

00:40:06.500 of points

00:40:06.880 there

00:40:07.160 toby

00:40:08.420 robinson

00:40:08.860 arranged two

00:40:10.300 rallies

00:40:10.720 in central

00:40:12.500 london

00:40:12.940 one was at

00:40:13.380 whitehall

00:40:14.200 parliament

00:40:14.560 square the

00:40:14.960 other one

00:40:15.800 was at

00:40:16.040 travours

00:40:16.420 square

00:40:16.700 there were

00:40:18.200 next to

00:40:18.740 zero

00:40:19.520 arrests

00:40:20.620 no police

00:40:22.560 were injured

00:40:23.120 there was

00:40:24.480 no sexual

00:40:25.340 assaults

00:40:26.240 there were

00:40:26.740 no arrests

00:40:27.840 for drugs

00:40:28.400 it really

00:40:29.340 was an

00:40:29.980 example of

00:40:30.580 how to

00:40:31.320 have a

00:40:31.620 peaceful

00:40:31.940 rally or

00:40:33.120 demonstration

00:40:33.740 when you

00:40:34.720 compare it

00:40:35.260 to what

00:40:35.680 happened

00:40:36.120 in the

00:40:38.320 notting hill

00:40:38.740 riots

00:40:39.260 over the

00:40:40.100 last weekend

00:40:41.720 there were

00:40:42.880 334 arrests

00:40:44.360 there were

00:40:45.100 three murders

00:40:45.820 not two

00:40:46.440 most people

00:40:47.120 see it as

00:40:47.980 being two

00:40:48.420 murders

00:40:48.800 a 15

00:40:50.280 year old

00:40:50.580 boy was

00:40:50.920 shot dead

00:40:51.480 in a

00:40:52.460 children's

00:40:52.880 play park

00:40:53.860 doing a

00:40:54.780 rehearsal

00:40:55.520 for the

00:40:56.040 carnival

00:40:56.400 and 35

00:40:57.480 police officers

00:40:58.200 were injured

00:40:58.680 now if

00:40:59.620 you wanted

00:41:00.160 to look

00:41:00.560 which rally

00:41:02.280 was the

00:41:02.660 far right

00:41:03.100 rally

00:41:03.360 you'd probably

00:41:03.920 suggest that

00:41:04.440 might be

00:41:05.040 the notting hill

00:41:06.120 carnival

00:41:07.280 riot

00:41:08.020 it really

00:41:10.600 must have

00:41:10.980 stuck in

00:41:11.500 the throat

00:41:12.060 obviously

00:41:13.360 the violence

00:41:14.240 is south

00:41:14.940 port

00:41:15.160 and also

00:41:17.220 the follow

00:41:19.380 on riots

00:41:20.120 spread out

00:41:21.660 from south

00:41:22.380 port

00:41:22.600 thoroughly

00:41:23.440 reprehensible

00:41:24.660 I don't

00:41:26.200 condone that

00:41:26.840 in any

00:41:27.440 shape or

00:41:27.940 form

00:41:28.260 and people

00:41:29.120 deserve

00:41:29.640 punishment

00:41:30.160 of some

00:41:30.460 description

00:41:30.920 although I

00:41:31.620 think some

00:41:31.920 of the

00:41:32.080 sentences

00:41:32.360 were savage

00:41:33.100 and completely

00:41:33.980 disproportionate

00:41:34.700 to what

00:41:34.980 they'd done

00:41:35.480 probably the

00:41:36.520 worst one

00:41:37.520 there's a

00:41:38.140 guy called

00:41:38.480 Wano

00:41:38.880 Rourke

00:41:39.440 he was

00:41:41.300 jailed

00:41:42.760 for a

00:41:43.100 really big

00:41:43.660 Twitter account

00:41:44.300 of 100,000

00:41:45.040 people

00:41:45.460 and he

00:41:46.360 said get

00:41:46.760 out there

00:41:47.080 on the

00:41:47.360 streets

00:41:47.640 and things

00:41:48.040 like that

00:41:48.660 although you

00:41:49.300 could

00:41:49.440 go out

00:41:50.840 and protest

00:41:51.400 don't go

00:41:52.040 out and

00:41:52.980 cause

00:41:53.440 violence

00:41:53.900 I believe

00:41:54.640 there was

00:41:55.460 one he did

00:41:56.000 say which

00:41:56.440 was

00:41:56.860 violence

00:41:57.820 oriented

00:41:58.400 but

00:41:59.320 on his

00:41:59.700 charge

00:42:00.080 sheet

00:42:00.420 one of

00:42:01.380 the

00:42:01.520 things

00:42:01.940 they

00:42:02.180 mention

00:42:02.800 from the

00:42:04.360 tone

00:42:04.720 of his

00:42:05.080 ex-posts

00:42:06.300 was

00:42:06.560 anti-establishment

00:42:08.660 rhetoric

00:42:09.540 so therefore

00:42:10.800 even

00:42:11.360 criticising

00:42:12.000 the government

00:42:12.460 these days

00:42:13.220 is theoretically

00:42:14.460 a jailable

00:42:15.400 offence

00:42:15.900 you know

00:42:16.880 I started

00:42:17.520 our conversation

00:42:18.280 about the

00:42:19.200 legacy we've

00:42:19.860 inherited here

00:42:20.460 in Canada

00:42:20.900 from the UK

00:42:21.560 and one of

00:42:22.480 them is that

00:42:22.960 we institutionalize

00:42:24.880 anti-establishment

00:42:26.280 views in an

00:42:27.400 establishment

00:42:27.880 which is sort of

00:42:28.420 a contradiction

00:42:28.900 in terms

00:42:29.340 but we both

00:42:29.900 have something

00:42:30.260 called

00:42:30.620 his majesty's

00:42:32.080 loyal opposition

00:42:33.560 which means

00:42:34.480 we take someone

00:42:35.200 who is paid

00:42:36.060 and given

00:42:37.080 privileges

00:42:37.640 and protections

00:42:38.340 and resources

00:42:39.260 and an office

00:42:40.980 and we say

00:42:41.540 your job

00:42:42.380 is to be

00:42:42.760 anti-establishment

00:42:43.600 every day

00:42:44.300 to challenge

00:42:45.120 everything

00:42:45.380 in fact

00:42:45.760 we're going

00:42:46.640 to compel

00:42:47.160 the government

00:42:47.580 to attend

00:42:48.100 question time

00:42:48.960 so the idea

00:42:50.220 that being

00:42:50.600 anti-establishment

00:42:52.320 is somehow

00:42:52.940 now a crime

00:42:54.160 it shows

00:42:55.160 cancel culture

00:42:56.300 has gone

00:42:56.660 well

00:42:57.080 sure

00:42:58.380 yeah

00:42:59.200 there's a lady

00:43:00.060 called Bernie

00:43:01.080 Soffoff

00:43:01.700 who

00:43:02.660 I know

00:43:04.200 reasonably well

00:43:05.040 not particularly

00:43:06.040 well

00:43:06.260 but reasonably

00:43:06.700 well

00:43:07.020 she was

00:43:08.340 she was held

00:43:09.120 by the police

00:43:10.300 for 36 hours

00:43:11.920 for one of her

00:43:13.920 tweets

00:43:14.280 which wrongly

00:43:15.900 named

00:43:16.360 the person

00:43:17.260 responsible

00:43:17.720 for the murders

00:43:18.360 in Southport

00:43:19.160 and also

00:43:19.860 some other

00:43:20.200 details as well

00:43:20.900 that were

00:43:21.820 wrong

00:43:22.660 there was

00:43:23.380 information

00:43:23.820 that was

00:43:24.180 given in good

00:43:24.780 faith

00:43:25.200 and I'm pretty

00:43:26.040 sure

00:43:26.420 if the

00:43:27.080 free speech

00:43:27.580 shooting

00:43:27.920 hadn't

00:43:28.460 gone

00:43:29.380 to the police

00:43:30.320 station

00:43:30.640 and represented

00:43:31.300 them

00:43:31.700 the bar

00:43:32.420 it wasn't

00:43:33.880 a solicitor

00:43:34.660 or a duty

00:43:35.040 solicitor

00:43:35.440 that was sent

00:43:35.920 I think they

00:43:36.700 actually sent

00:43:37.100 well they're

00:43:37.420 barristers

00:43:37.940 and I had to

00:43:38.700 point out

00:43:39.020 to the police

00:43:39.500 that making

00:43:40.780 a genuine

00:43:41.260 mistake

00:43:42.020 on social

00:43:42.640 media

00:43:42.980 is not

00:43:43.800 a chargeable

00:43:44.460 or jailable

00:43:45.120 offence

00:43:45.580 but the police

00:43:46.440 were determined

00:43:47.040 to bang up

00:43:47.640 as many people

00:43:48.300 as they can

00:43:48.820 and they're

00:43:49.300 still arresting

00:43:49.780 people

00:43:50.160 and they're

00:43:50.640 still

00:43:50.820 jading people

00:43:51.460 at the moment

00:43:51.800 as well

00:43:52.240 I find that

00:43:53.380 astonishing

00:43:53.760 you mentioned

00:43:54.220 the free speech

00:43:54.800 union

00:43:55.000 I'm actually

00:43:55.460 a member

00:43:55.840 of the UK

00:43:56.460 free speech

00:43:57.020 union

00:43:57.240 even though

00:43:57.620 I'm over

00:43:58.000 here in

00:43:58.360 Canada

00:43:58.680 I'm delighted

00:43:59.320 that they're

00:44:00.000 spreading in

00:44:00.540 New Zealand

00:44:01.100 and other

00:44:01.580 countries

00:44:02.060 they sure

00:44:02.700 are needed

00:44:03.140 Toby Young

00:44:03.820 their leader

00:44:04.620 in the UK

00:44:05.020 is outstanding

00:44:05.820 I mentioned

00:44:06.960 that there

00:44:07.260 are five

00:44:07.900 seats now

00:44:08.900 in the British

00:44:09.520 Parliament

00:44:09.880 held by

00:44:10.840 explicitly

00:44:11.520 Islamist

00:44:12.680 MPs

00:44:13.820 which I think

00:44:14.320 is terrifying

00:44:15.060 it's obviously

00:44:15.880 terrifying

00:44:16.340 Labour

00:44:16.760 they're doing

00:44:17.160 their best

00:44:17.540 to move

00:44:18.680 to the hard

00:44:19.280 left

00:44:19.660 but there

00:44:20.720 are five

00:44:21.240 seats also

00:44:21.980 four or five

00:44:22.620 seats I think

00:44:23.320 that Nigel Farage

00:44:25.740 and Reform UK

00:44:26.700 won

00:44:27.140 now

00:44:27.440 proportionately

00:44:28.780 it should have

00:44:29.420 been dozens

00:44:30.020 because they

00:44:30.600 received over

00:44:31.100 four million

00:44:31.980 votes

00:44:32.660 but they

00:44:33.480 have the

00:44:33.740 first

00:44:33.940 past the

00:44:34.440 post

00:44:34.640 system

00:44:34.940 just like

00:44:35.300 we do

00:44:35.580 here in

00:44:35.920 Canada

00:44:36.240 Nigel Farage

00:44:37.340 himself won

00:44:38.000 in the

00:44:38.180 riding of

00:44:38.580 Clacton

00:44:39.180 which I

00:44:39.940 visited on

00:44:40.580 election night

00:44:41.180 and there's

00:44:41.540 four others

00:44:42.040 and some

00:44:42.640 of them

00:44:42.760 are quite

00:44:43.060 good

00:44:43.440 tell me a

00:44:44.800 little bit

00:44:45.020 about your

00:44:45.340 thoughts

00:44:45.880 about

00:44:46.720 Nigel Farage

00:44:47.460 entering

00:44:48.100 Parliament

00:44:49.260 is he

00:44:50.360 using that

00:44:51.320 forum to

00:44:52.020 his advantage

00:44:53.180 is he

00:44:53.580 unlocking

00:44:54.080 the power

00:44:55.280 and the

00:44:55.660 resources

00:44:56.160 of that

00:44:56.560 position

00:44:56.960 there are

00:44:57.500 some very

00:44:57.820 lazy

00:44:58.260 MPs

00:44:58.840 and then

00:44:59.060 there's

00:44:59.200 some very

00:44:59.540 industrious

00:45:00.260 MPs

00:45:01.020 MPs

00:45:02.000 who just

00:45:02.300 phone it

00:45:02.700 in

00:45:02.840 and some

00:45:03.220 who use

00:45:03.540 every lever

00:45:04.140 at their

00:45:04.380 disposal

00:45:04.640 how's

00:45:05.200 Nigel doing

00:45:05.800 right okay

00:45:08.140 well let

00:45:10.040 me try

00:45:10.360 there's one

00:45:12.000 I'm seeing a

00:45:13.580 cinema in a

00:45:14.120 couple of

00:45:14.400 weeks time

00:45:14.880 and there's

00:45:15.820 one question

00:45:16.940 I'm burning

00:45:18.320 to ask

00:45:18.940 the reform

00:45:20.660 MPs

00:45:21.260 after the

00:45:22.120 riots

00:45:22.600 they went

00:45:23.680 particularly

00:45:24.260 quiet

00:45:24.740 they were

00:45:25.160 scared

00:45:25.500 they were

00:45:26.420 scared of

00:45:26.600 being labelled

00:45:27.000 far right

00:45:27.840 which is

00:45:28.140 like alt

00:45:28.620 right over

00:45:29.240 here

00:45:29.440 they were

00:45:29.680 terrified

00:45:30.160 of being

00:45:31.680 lumped in

00:45:33.180 with the

00:45:33.460 writers

00:45:33.680 I don't

00:45:34.460 think they

00:45:34.740 handled it

00:45:35.140 well

00:45:35.300 sorry I

00:45:35.640 interrupted

00:45:35.920 you

00:45:36.080 go ahead

00:45:36.500 yeah no

00:45:37.340 problems

00:45:37.500 at all

00:45:37.780 I suppose

00:45:40.760 they didn't

00:45:41.840 want to

00:45:42.160 maybe inflame

00:45:42.960 the situation

00:45:43.720 or whether

00:45:44.540 they got

00:45:44.800 bullied into

00:45:45.960 it by

00:45:46.280 the Labour

00:45:47.060 Party

00:45:47.520 and all

00:45:48.400 the other

00:45:49.400 left wing

00:45:50.880 people around

00:45:51.560 there

00:45:51.820 it was only

00:45:52.480 really left

00:45:53.600 to people

00:45:54.280 like myself

00:45:54.800 and my

00:45:55.820 fellow

00:45:56.340 travellers

00:45:56.840 on X

00:45:57.520 to continue

00:45:58.680 the battle

00:46:00.180 on our

00:46:00.660 behalf

00:46:01.140 with all

00:46:02.420 the two

00:46:02.720 tier policing

00:46:05.360 and two

00:46:06.220 tier justice

00:46:06.720 that we

00:46:07.040 have

00:46:07.280 but going

00:46:07.860 back to

00:46:08.100 your point

00:46:08.360 about

00:46:08.740 reform

00:46:10.640 because Labour

00:46:12.200 are making

00:46:12.580 such a mess

00:46:13.380 of things

00:46:13.820 at the moment

00:46:14.240 Ezra

00:46:14.600 absolute

00:46:15.460 haulics

00:46:16.500 of everything

00:46:17.060 they turn

00:46:18.920 as

00:46:19.500 has been

00:46:20.860 disastrous

00:46:21.680 scrapping

00:46:22.900 the old

00:46:24.960 race pensioners

00:46:25.980 winter fuel

00:46:26.840 allowance

00:46:27.240 to David

00:46:27.740 Lambie

00:46:28.720 cancelling

00:46:29.500 arms contracts

00:46:30.320 to Israel

00:46:30.900 they are

00:46:31.760 universally

00:46:32.560 loathed

00:46:33.580 and it

00:46:34.320 appears

00:46:34.680 that the

00:46:35.380 rank and

00:46:37.060 file Labour

00:46:38.220 voter

00:46:38.660 is turning

00:46:39.620 to reform

00:46:40.020 apparently

00:46:40.360 one in

00:46:40.900 four

00:46:41.440 of Labour

00:46:43.180 voters

00:46:43.600 would consider

00:46:44.260 voting for

00:46:44.840 reform

00:46:45.220 at the next

00:46:45.660 election

00:46:46.080 because

00:46:46.880 there's a lot

00:46:47.500 of Labour

00:46:48.900 people

00:46:49.220 that would

00:46:49.540 never

00:46:49.940 ever

00:46:50.280 vote

00:46:50.600 for the

00:46:50.820 Conservative

00:46:51.180 Party

00:46:51.600 one of

00:46:53.160 the advantages

00:46:53.480 that one

00:46:54.080 of Nigel

00:46:55.440 Farage's

00:46:55.860 former

00:46:56.120 parties

00:46:56.500 did

00:46:56.760 was

00:46:57.080 attract

00:46:58.160 Labour

00:46:58.440 Party

00:46:59.320 voters

00:46:59.660 to UKIP

00:47:00.300 and a lot

00:47:01.320 of UKIP

00:47:01.860 voters

00:47:02.200 went on

00:47:02.980 to vote

00:47:04.360 for the

00:47:04.580 Conservative

00:47:04.920 Party

00:47:05.340 that was

00:47:06.040 during

00:47:06.700 2019

00:47:07.560 when Boris

00:47:09.240 Johnson

00:47:09.600 got elected

00:47:10.620 so

00:47:11.520 this is

00:47:14.760 a major

00:47:15.500 threat

00:47:15.900 and I

00:47:16.620 think

00:47:16.980 Keir

00:47:18.540 Starmer's

00:47:19.220 popularity

00:47:21.680 ratings

00:47:22.320 have

00:47:22.500 plummeted

00:47:23.280 something like

00:47:23.780 16 points

00:47:24.840 he was

00:47:25.440 plus 7

00:47:26.060 now he's

00:47:26.480 something like

00:47:26.920 minus

00:47:27.440 whatever it

00:47:28.080 is

00:47:28.320 and also

00:47:29.100 reform

00:47:29.500 picked up

00:47:30.360 5 points

00:47:31.340 off of

00:47:31.700 Labour

00:47:31.960 as well

00:47:32.420 and I

00:47:34.180 just cannot

00:47:35.220 see the

00:47:35.640 Labour Party

00:47:36.140 ever making

00:47:36.740 a right

00:47:37.040 decision

00:47:37.380 between now

00:47:38.080 and the

00:47:38.700 next 5

00:47:39.200 years

00:47:39.680 and they

00:47:40.300 will pay

00:47:40.620 the price

00:47:41.220 of being

00:47:42.120 tone deaf

00:47:42.880 to anything

00:47:44.460 the electorate

00:47:45.180 says

00:47:45.500 whilst

00:47:46.520 when it

00:47:48.380 comes to

00:47:48.640 the riots

00:47:49.200 the Labour

00:47:50.280 Party

00:47:50.540 to a greater

00:47:51.160 extent

00:47:51.840 have been

00:47:52.180 able to

00:47:52.400 shut

00:47:52.660 people up

00:47:53.400 and they

00:47:54.300 made a

00:47:55.380 massive

00:47:55.620 shove

00:47:55.960 to the

00:47:56.100 window

00:47:56.680 to the

00:47:57.400 left

00:47:57.720 the

00:47:58.260 resentment

00:47:58.740 the fact

00:47:59.280 that our

00:47:59.660 political

00:47:59.880 classes

00:48:00.300 have

00:48:00.460 completely

00:48:00.800 ignored

00:48:01.260 us

00:48:01.560 on

00:48:02.240 immigration

00:48:02.720 is not

00:48:03.620 forgotten

00:48:04.020 it's not

00:48:04.780 forgiving

00:48:05.200 and it's

00:48:05.960 still

00:48:06.800 a major

00:48:08.840 grievance

00:48:09.480 that still

00:48:10.200 is smouldering

00:48:11.460 just below

00:48:12.340 the surface

00:48:12.960 but moving

00:48:14.660 on from

00:48:14.900 there

00:48:15.040 if reform

00:48:16.220 can harness

00:48:17.600 that grievances

00:48:18.480 that the vast

00:48:19.460 majority of the

00:48:20.000 country have

00:48:20.660 I think

00:48:22.040 reform

00:48:22.500 could at the

00:48:23.260 next election

00:48:23.900 in partnership

00:48:25.340 with the

00:48:25.620 Conservative Party

00:48:26.460 do extremely

00:48:27.440 well

00:48:27.780 by the way

00:48:28.380 I want to

00:48:28.940 remember

00:48:29.180 there's one

00:48:29.660 exclusive

00:48:30.180 I can give

00:48:31.220 you

00:48:31.380 actually

00:48:31.640 on the

00:48:32.280 reform

00:48:32.520 party

00:48:33.000 during the

00:48:34.380 campaign

00:48:34.980 the

00:48:36.440 Conservative

00:48:37.040 Party

00:48:37.540 dug up

00:48:38.260 some

00:48:38.560 dirt

00:48:39.060 on

00:48:39.420 Nigel

00:48:40.800 Farrar

00:48:41.160 saying

00:48:41.500 that he's

00:48:41.860 pro-Putin

00:48:42.700 and he's

00:48:43.580 anti-Ukraine

00:48:44.820 no he's not

00:48:45.920 he's just

00:48:46.860 realistic

00:48:47.340 about

00:48:47.780 Ukraine

00:48:49.600 and Zelensky

00:48:50.860 and Putin

00:48:51.560 he's just

00:48:52.140 realistic

00:48:52.600 but

00:48:53.260 one of my

00:48:54.640 reform

00:48:55.120 insiders

00:48:55.500 told us

00:48:56.080 that publicity

00:48:57.360 probably

00:48:58.000 cost

00:48:58.580 reform

00:48:59.280 something

00:48:59.600 like

00:48:59.820 15

00:49:00.200 to

00:49:00.360 20

00:49:00.600 seats

00:49:01.020 and

00:49:01.580 could

00:49:01.720 you

00:49:01.820 imagine

00:49:02.040 a

00:49:02.220 reform

00:49:02.500 party

00:49:02.900 sitting

00:49:03.420 there

00:49:03.720 in

00:49:03.880 parliament

00:49:04.160 with

00:49:04.480 20

00:49:05.100 25

00:49:05.500 seats

00:49:05.980 they really

00:49:06.780 would be

00:49:07.080 in a strong

00:49:07.400 position

00:49:07.720 particularly

00:49:08.100 with the

00:49:08.380 Conservative

00:49:08.720 Party

00:49:09.220 the Conservative

00:49:10.040 Party is

00:49:10.440 having an election

00:49:11.040 at the moment

00:49:11.520 everyone's saying

00:49:12.640 all the right

00:49:13.100 things

00:49:13.600 but you know

00:49:15.040 talk is cheap

00:49:15.980 actions

00:49:16.480 are far more

00:49:17.700 impressive

00:49:18.060 Ezra

00:49:18.400 let me ask

00:49:19.300 you a little

00:49:19.520 bit about

00:49:19.840 that

00:49:20.020 because

00:49:20.400 the Conservative

00:49:21.840 Party has

00:49:22.300 been changing

00:49:22.940 leaders every

00:49:23.740 few months

00:49:24.340 without going

00:49:25.500 to the public

00:49:26.300 it's really been

00:49:27.780 one palace

00:49:28.560 coup after another

00:49:29.460 getting rid of

00:49:30.520 Boris Johnson

00:49:31.220 Liz Truss

00:49:32.060 I can't even

00:49:32.760 keep track

00:49:33.280 of them all

00:49:33.820 Rishi Sunak

00:49:34.780 was an absolute

00:49:36.060 disaster

00:49:37.060 he felt like

00:49:37.820 he was an

00:49:38.460 AI generated

00:49:39.700 character

00:49:40.640 he had no

00:49:41.420 authenticity

00:49:42.580 no empathy

00:49:43.460 on paper

00:49:45.700 oh looks great

00:49:46.740 an Indo-Brit

00:49:48.400 success story

00:49:49.940 like

00:49:51.100 hey this will

00:49:52.680 appeal to

00:49:53.040 young people

00:49:53.640 no it won't

00:49:54.180 he felt like

00:49:55.300 an out of touch

00:49:57.180 banker

00:49:57.920 he just felt

00:49:59.360 wrong in every

00:50:00.360 way

00:50:00.580 and the party

00:50:01.460 was thrashed

00:50:02.200 for it

00:50:02.760 let me ask you

00:50:03.680 two questions

00:50:04.160 first of all

00:50:04.740 what has he

00:50:06.060 been up to

00:50:06.840 I suppose he's

00:50:07.860 technically the

00:50:08.420 leader of the

00:50:08.720 opposition

00:50:09.100 I saw a video

00:50:10.220 of him in

00:50:10.660 California

00:50:11.220 probably looking

00:50:11.880 for some

00:50:12.300 next banker

00:50:13.380 banking job

00:50:13.960 has he said

00:50:14.880 anything

00:50:15.260 like is Rishi

00:50:15.940 Sunak engaged

00:50:17.120 in public

00:50:18.320 life

00:50:18.660 sure no

00:50:19.160 no indeed

00:50:19.960 in fact this

00:50:21.500 week Angela

00:50:22.460 Rayner who's

00:50:23.060 the deputy

00:50:23.480 prime minister

00:50:24.240 was up against

00:50:26.120 James Cleverley

00:50:26.980 in the House

00:50:28.360 of Commerce

00:50:28.660 at question

00:50:29.560 time because

00:50:30.120 Rishi's still

00:50:30.800 absent without

00:50:31.900 leave at the

00:50:32.460 moment

00:50:32.800 really

00:50:34.040 so he's

00:50:34.960 run away

00:50:35.340 but he's

00:50:35.720 taken his

00:50:36.140 paycheck of

00:50:36.760 course because

00:50:37.160 he's a

00:50:37.460 banker

00:50:37.760 well of course

00:50:38.400 yeah

00:50:38.620 he's still

00:50:39.580 billions or

00:50:41.520 billions of

00:50:41.980 how much

00:50:42.420 he's got

00:50:42.840 he's really

00:50:44.580 the skull

00:50:45.040 of Pimper

00:50:45.720 now we're

00:50:46.700 seeking him

00:50:47.100 everywhere but

00:50:47.780 no one

00:50:49.160 spotted him

00:50:49.620 yet

00:50:49.840 he got

00:50:51.540 reelected as

00:50:52.360 an MP

00:50:52.760 which is

00:50:53.900 a sense

00:50:55.380 I bet he

00:50:56.220 regrets that

00:50:56.800 I bet he

00:50:57.500 wishes he

00:50:58.060 lost

00:50:58.520 like Kim

00:50:59.500 Campbell

00:50:59.800 in our

00:51:00.020 country

00:51:00.440 one of his

00:51:01.100 cynical

00:51:02.020 is

00:51:02.700 his

00:51:02.980 missus

00:51:03.420 I think

00:51:03.740 his missus

00:51:04.240 has enough

00:51:05.100 of Britain

00:51:05.760 and that's

00:51:06.640 the reason

00:51:07.300 they called

00:51:08.420 an early

00:51:08.760 election so

00:51:09.360 she could

00:51:09.760 beat the

00:51:10.200 California a

00:51:10.960 little bit

00:51:11.260 quicker

00:51:11.640 call me

00:51:12.320 cynical

00:51:12.660 you know

00:51:13.680 because

00:51:14.640 the point is

00:51:15.380 I think

00:51:15.960 if the

00:51:16.160 conservative

00:51:16.480 party

00:51:16.820 stayed in

00:51:17.320 for another

00:51:17.600 few months

00:51:18.200 and called

00:51:18.860 the election

00:51:19.240 October

00:51:19.800 November

00:51:20.460 time

00:51:20.860 I think

00:51:21.600 the threshold

00:51:22.820 they got

00:51:23.260 in the election

00:51:23.880 would have

00:51:24.220 been far

00:51:25.080 far lower

00:51:25.700 and

00:51:26.740 you know

00:51:27.760 because

00:51:28.120 James

00:51:30.260 Cleverley

00:51:30.920 who

00:51:31.380 hasn't got

00:51:32.320 a particularly

00:51:32.580 high profile

00:51:33.400 when he was

00:51:34.140 home secretary

00:51:34.880 managed to get

00:51:35.720 legal immigration

00:51:36.980 down by 80%

00:51:38.260 in three months

00:51:39.200 that really is

00:51:40.340 quite impressive

00:51:41.080 you know

00:51:41.900 do you know

00:51:42.580 what he is

00:51:42.980 he comes

00:51:44.760 as a silent

00:51:45.800 assassin

00:51:46.340 you know

00:51:47.100 he doesn't

00:51:48.140 save very much

00:51:49.540 but delivers

00:51:50.020 quite a lot

00:51:50.640 that was

00:51:51.200 staggering

00:51:51.640 he was

00:51:51.960 out of the

00:51:52.200 immigration

00:51:52.980 down

00:51:53.500 so much

00:51:55.260 in such

00:51:55.620 a shorter

00:51:55.920 time

00:51:56.300 I want to

00:51:57.440 show you

00:51:57.620 a clip

00:51:57.920 of Kemi

00:51:58.440 Badenoch

00:51:59.240 who

00:51:59.940 some people

00:52:01.020 are skeptic

00:52:01.540 of

00:52:01.860 but she

00:52:02.780 said some

00:52:03.480 conservative

00:52:03.980 things

00:52:04.580 and here's

00:52:05.700 a clip

00:52:05.920 of her

00:52:06.140 the other

00:52:06.440 day

00:52:06.660 saying

00:52:07.020 that

00:52:07.340 she

00:52:08.100 thinks

00:52:09.020 the greater

00:52:09.500 threat

00:52:09.780 to the UK

00:52:10.160 is not

00:52:10.540 the handful

00:52:11.160 of reform

00:52:11.840 MPs

00:52:12.760 but rather

00:52:13.180 that handful

00:52:14.280 of Islamist

00:52:15.700 MPs

00:52:16.160 that I mentioned

00:52:16.540 before

00:52:16.800 here's a clip

00:52:17.400 of Kemi

00:52:18.000 I believe

00:52:19.000 in equality

00:52:19.720 under the law

00:52:21.040 if citizenship

00:52:22.820 is to mean

00:52:23.740 something

00:52:24.240 then our laws

00:52:25.660 must apply

00:52:26.560 equally to all

00:52:27.700 citizens

00:52:28.160 anything else

00:52:29.340 breeds division

00:52:30.260 and resentment

00:52:31.540 in government

00:52:33.100 I saw just how

00:52:34.380 malign and destructive

00:52:35.420 identity politics

00:52:36.580 had become

00:52:37.180 laws brought in

00:52:38.980 to protect

00:52:39.420 everyone

00:52:40.040 were used by

00:52:41.280 left-wingers

00:52:41.880 to protect

00:52:42.320 certain groups

00:52:43.060 over others

00:52:43.860 we've seen

00:52:45.240 in history

00:52:45.660 what happens

00:52:46.240 when governments

00:52:46.820 do this

00:52:47.360 that must

00:52:48.480 not happen

00:52:49.440 here

00:52:49.860 and that is

00:52:50.940 why

00:52:51.240 when everyone

00:52:52.000 was talking

00:52:52.660 about the five

00:52:53.300 new MPs

00:52:53.900 from reform

00:52:54.540 I was far

00:52:55.860 far more worried

00:52:56.880 about the five

00:52:57.600 new MPs

00:52:58.400 elected on the

00:52:59.480 back of

00:53:00.080 sectarian

00:53:00.700 Islamist

00:53:01.240 politics

00:53:01.720 alien ideas

00:53:02.680 that have

00:53:03.040 no place

00:53:03.740 here

00:53:04.020 it's the sort

00:53:14.840 of politics

00:53:15.320 we need

00:53:15.980 to defeat

00:53:16.780 and defeat

00:53:17.840 quickly

00:53:18.480 what do you

00:53:19.040 think of Kemi

00:53:19.460 some people

00:53:19.920 think that

00:53:20.380 she's

00:53:20.900 you know

00:53:22.140 the future

00:53:22.640 of the UK

00:53:23.740 Conservative Party

00:53:24.600 because she's

00:53:25.480 a black woman

00:53:26.080 but she is

00:53:26.620 hard line

00:53:27.560 other people

00:53:28.260 are not as

00:53:28.760 persuaded

00:53:29.580 what's your

00:53:30.000 thoughts on Kemi

00:53:30.640 first of all

00:53:31.140 does she even

00:53:31.580 have a chance

00:53:32.240 I think she

00:53:34.400 does actually

00:53:35.080 and I think

00:53:36.100 she might be

00:53:36.540 the members

00:53:36.920 choice as well

00:53:38.660 I think how

00:53:39.580 it works is

00:53:40.320 that MPs

00:53:41.760 vote

00:53:42.200 for who they

00:53:44.720 want to be

00:53:45.220 Prime Minister

00:53:45.880 then it gets

00:53:46.660 people down

00:53:47.100 to the last

00:53:47.660 two

00:53:48.020 that the

00:53:48.620 members vote

00:53:49.220 for it

00:53:49.600 so that's

00:53:50.140 how it's

00:53:50.400 done

00:53:50.520 that's why

00:53:51.140 often

00:53:51.960 a more

00:53:54.300 right wing

00:53:55.200 PM is

00:53:56.260 sometimes

00:53:56.760 appointed

00:53:57.540 than others

00:53:58.380 but

00:53:58.680 Kemi

00:53:59.740 you know

00:54:00.500 it's like

00:54:01.320 Priti Patel

00:54:02.120 all these

00:54:02.800 people

00:54:03.220 have said

00:54:03.800 all the

00:54:04.060 right things

00:54:04.640 in all

00:54:04.880 the right

00:54:05.180 places

00:54:05.740 but you

00:54:06.740 know

00:54:06.920 are they

00:54:07.960 the real

00:54:08.300 thing

00:54:08.640 it was

00:54:09.180 pretty

00:54:09.480 it was

00:54:09.960 in the

00:54:10.180 end of

00:54:11.080 Covid

00:54:11.480 it was

00:54:12.140 Priti Patel

00:54:13.060 who allowed

00:54:13.840 two million

00:54:14.540 legal migrants

00:54:15.660 into this

00:54:16.200 country

00:54:16.560 and also

00:54:17.520 Kemi

00:54:17.880 Bagnock

00:54:19.000 was a

00:54:20.800 person

00:54:21.400 that

00:54:21.820 opened the

00:54:22.680 floodgates

00:54:23.100 to all

00:54:23.680 the fake

00:54:24.260 student visa

00:54:26.340 people over

00:54:27.000 here

00:54:27.240 when you

00:54:27.940 get a

00:54:28.140 student visa

00:54:28.640 in Britain

00:54:29.140 you're

00:54:30.580 in time

00:54:31.060 to get

00:54:31.260 a national

00:54:31.560 insurance

00:54:31.960 number

00:54:32.480 and work

00:54:33.000 for up to

00:54:33.320 20 hours

00:54:33.780 a week

00:54:34.080 for who's

00:54:34.740 counting

00:54:35.140 so basically

00:54:36.120 you've got

00:54:36.660 your student

00:54:37.040 visa

00:54:37.360 that's you

00:54:38.980 in the

00:54:39.820 country

00:54:40.040 for good

00:54:40.400 should you

00:54:40.740 want to

00:54:41.060 stay

00:54:41.360 I think

00:54:44.000 there should

00:54:45.380 be a lot

00:54:45.700 of nasal

00:54:46.100 gazing

00:54:46.860 within the

00:54:47.280 Conservative

00:54:47.660 Party

00:54:48.100 when it

00:54:48.680 comes to

00:54:49.080 words and

00:54:49.560 deeds

00:54:49.900 quite frankly

00:54:51.560 it's alright

00:54:52.320 saying one

00:54:54.000 thing

00:54:54.280 but they

00:54:55.580 have to

00:54:56.280 stand up

00:54:56.620 the civil

00:54:56.980 servants

00:54:57.520 they have

00:54:58.280 to get

00:54:58.560 the approval

00:54:59.200 of the

00:54:59.400 Prime Minister

00:55:00.000 to fire

00:55:01.040 civil servants

00:55:02.080 that are in

00:55:02.500 the way

00:55:02.840 these people

00:55:04.160 really need

00:55:04.700 to have a

00:55:05.020 purpose and

00:55:05.680 a will

00:55:06.120 to get

00:55:06.540 things done

00:55:07.200 if we

00:55:07.820 don't

00:55:08.340 this country

00:55:08.780 is just

00:55:09.440 going to

00:55:09.700 drift off

00:55:10.260 into

00:55:10.800 eternal

00:55:11.800 damnation

00:55:12.540 and decline

00:55:13.180 you've been

00:55:14.620 very generous

00:55:15.080 with your

00:55:15.320 time today

00:55:15.680 it's great

00:55:16.000 to meet

00:55:16.300 you and

00:55:16.540 to know

00:55:16.740 you're a

00:55:17.040 real person

00:55:17.540 not just

00:55:18.120 a Twitter

00:55:19.340 avatar

00:55:20.300 which I

00:55:20.760 don't

00:55:21.180 quite know

00:55:22.740 why I

00:55:23.040 thought that

00:55:23.380 but I

00:55:23.620 did

00:55:23.780 I want

00:55:24.180 to show

00:55:24.420 you a

00:55:24.640 clip

00:55:24.820 from the

00:55:25.240 UK

00:55:25.440 Parliament

00:55:25.780 the other

00:55:26.080 day

00:55:26.380 when a

00:55:27.140 Reform

00:55:27.520 MP

00:55:27.820 asked

00:55:28.400 what exactly

00:55:29.920 is the

00:55:30.300 definition

00:55:30.740 of Islamophobia

00:55:31.680 because by

00:55:32.340 gosh

00:55:32.820 Keir Starmer

00:55:33.720 and the

00:55:34.020 Labour

00:55:34.220 Government

00:55:34.580 and the

00:55:34.860 prosecutors

00:55:35.240 they want

00:55:35.720 to stamp

00:55:36.160 out

00:55:36.380 Islamophobia

00:55:37.040 so someone

00:55:37.960 might ask

00:55:38.440 well what

00:55:38.820 is it

00:55:39.540 and here's

00:55:40.120 a clip

00:55:40.460 of how

00:55:41.020 that went

00:55:41.800 Mr. Speaker

00:55:42.700 could the

00:55:43.180 Secretary of

00:55:43.600 State please

00:55:44.160 explain to me

00:55:44.960 and the

00:55:45.220 House

00:55:45.620 what the

00:55:46.320 government's

00:55:47.100 definition

00:55:47.520 of Islamophobia

00:55:48.580 actually is

00:55:49.460 well I

00:55:53.420 say to the

00:55:54.240 Honourable

00:55:54.520 Member

00:55:54.840 that a

00:55:55.200 new

00:55:55.360 definition

00:55:55.840 must be

00:55:56.340 given

00:55:56.560 careful

00:55:57.040 consideration

00:55:57.780 so that

00:55:58.220 it

00:55:58.380 comprehensively

00:55:59.520 reflects

00:56:00.160 multiple

00:56:00.640 perspectives

00:56:01.240 and considers

00:56:02.300 potential

00:56:02.820 implications

00:56:03.380 for different

00:56:04.120 communities

00:56:04.620 and we're

00:56:05.280 actively

00:56:05.700 considering

00:56:06.280 our approach

00:56:06.860 to Islamophobia

00:56:07.660 including

00:56:09.220 definitions

00:56:09.920 and we'll provide

00:56:10.980 further updates

00:56:11.700 on this

00:56:12.080 in due course

00:56:12.640 so I don't

00:56:14.380 think that's

00:56:14.680 an answer

00:56:15.220 she says

00:56:16.160 they're going

00:56:16.360 to update

00:56:16.880 it but

00:56:17.560 from different

00:56:18.180 communities

00:56:18.820 communities

00:56:19.460 is a

00:56:19.820 weird word

00:56:21.180 in the UK

00:56:21.780 especially

00:56:22.300 it means

00:56:23.340 every community

00:56:24.060 except for the

00:56:24.620 indigenous British

00:56:25.380 community

00:56:26.240 no reference

00:56:27.060 to freedom

00:56:27.520 of speech

00:56:27.780 no reference

00:56:28.320 to apostate

00:56:30.200 or reformist

00:56:31.600 Muslims

00:56:32.360 who themselves

00:56:33.120 want to

00:56:33.560 criticize

00:56:33.920 Islam

00:56:34.840 in I mean

00:56:35.500 half the history

00:56:36.380 of the Christian

00:56:37.140 church

00:56:37.660 is dissenters

00:56:38.900 you probably

00:56:40.020 don't know

00:56:40.300 the background

00:56:40.760 to this

00:56:41.220 or if you

00:56:42.380 don't know

00:56:43.060 the background

00:56:43.400 to it

00:56:43.680 let me

00:56:44.400 explain it

00:56:44.940 to you

00:56:45.320 there is

00:56:46.800 in parliament

00:56:47.300 the all

00:56:47.980 party

00:56:48.360 parliamentary

00:56:48.780 group of

00:56:49.580 Muslims

00:56:50.000 and they

00:56:51.160 stick together

00:56:51.980 what they

00:56:52.780 consider to

00:56:53.240 be

00:56:53.500 what Islamophobia

00:56:54.680 is

00:56:55.120 and

00:56:56.160 I quote

00:56:58.420 Islamophobia

00:56:59.720 before I read

00:57:01.320 this out

00:57:01.720 let me say

00:57:02.280 you know

00:57:02.900 abusively

00:57:04.360 swearing at

00:57:05.140 somebody

00:57:05.520 using the

00:57:06.180 P word

00:57:06.780 assaulting

00:57:08.220 people

00:57:08.580 and grabbing

00:57:09.140 hijabs

00:57:09.580 off women

00:57:10.040 obviously

00:57:10.900 is anti-Muslim

00:57:11.920 hatred

00:57:12.300 I don't think

00:57:13.700 any of us

00:57:14.080 have any

00:57:14.860 problem

00:57:15.220 condemning

00:57:15.740 that

00:57:16.080 but when

00:57:17.280 it comes

00:57:17.720 to Islamophobia

00:57:18.720 I think

00:57:20.680 it was

00:57:20.840 Andrew

00:57:21.080 Cummings

00:57:21.480 who

00:57:21.620 wrote it

00:57:22.220 originally

00:57:35.760 but

00:57:36.680 what the

00:57:38.080 party

00:57:38.520 party

00:57:38.540 parliamentary

00:57:38.920 group

00:57:39.420 on

00:57:39.620 Islamophobia

00:57:40.340 is

00:57:42.460 the key

00:57:43.380 sentence

00:57:43.780 is

00:57:44.220 and I

00:57:44.480 quote

00:57:44.860 Islamophobia

00:57:46.320 is rooted

00:57:46.980 in racism

00:57:47.660 and is a

00:57:48.420 type of

00:57:48.880 racism

00:57:49.240 that

00:57:49.460 expressed

00:57:50.020 as a

00:57:50.420 Muslim

00:57:50.760 ness

00:57:51.540 and the

00:57:52.800 key

00:57:53.220 word

00:57:53.760 phrase

00:57:54.160 here

00:57:54.480 is

00:57:54.780 or

00:57:55.820 perceived

00:57:57.320 Muslimness

00:57:58.360 for

00:57:59.600 for

00:57:59.620 example

00:58:00.080 if you

00:58:02.040 want to

00:58:02.680 confirm

00:58:04.240 or

00:58:04.880 debate

00:58:05.780 what

00:58:06.200 age

00:58:07.080 Mohammed

00:58:08.560 consummated

00:58:09.460 marriage

00:58:09.820 with

00:58:09.980 Aisha

00:58:10.360 that could

00:58:11.340 be perceived

00:58:12.060 as

00:58:12.800 Islamophobia

00:58:13.540 if you

00:58:14.640 want to

00:58:14.980 quote

00:58:15.260 verse

00:58:15.760 434

00:58:17.080 which

00:58:18.360 basically

00:58:19.040 gives

00:58:19.920 husbands

00:58:21.040 the right

00:58:21.760 to

00:58:22.200 beat

00:58:23.280 their

00:58:23.520 errant

00:58:23.860 wives

00:58:24.420 and

00:58:25.280 the

00:58:27.080 Quran

00:58:27.440 424

00:58:28.220 which

00:58:29.140 basically

00:58:29.800 says

00:58:30.120 that

00:58:30.340 non-Muslim

00:58:31.480 men and

00:58:32.300 women

00:58:32.500 can be

00:58:32.920 enslaved

00:58:33.400 and

00:58:33.920 the

00:58:34.280 women

00:58:34.640 can

00:58:35.460 be

00:58:35.840 abused

00:58:36.400 should we

00:58:36.680 say

00:58:36.920 if you

00:58:38.160 start

00:58:38.380 quoting

00:58:38.760 all this

00:58:39.360 or

00:58:40.440 for

00:58:40.680 example

00:58:41.160 the other

00:58:42.660 example

00:58:43.020 would be

00:58:43.760 if you

00:58:45.280 showed a

00:58:45.580 picture of

00:58:45.920 Mohammed

00:58:46.280 anything

00:58:47.380 that might

00:58:48.060 insult

00:58:48.760 a

00:58:49.920 perceivement

00:58:51.040 of

00:58:51.220 Muslimness

00:58:51.860 could be

00:58:52.520 construed

00:58:53.140 in a

00:58:53.980 court of

00:58:54.420 law

00:58:54.680 that

00:58:55.140 you

00:58:55.300 have

00:58:55.440 committed

00:58:55.720 Islamophobia

00:58:56.600 it

00:58:57.320 really

00:58:57.660 is

00:58:58.000 a

00:58:58.100 particularly

00:58:58.440 slippery

00:58:58.780 slope

00:58:59.180 and

00:58:59.760 I

00:58:59.880 can

00:58:59.980 also

00:59:00.240 probably

00:59:00.680 exclusively

00:59:01.200 reveal to

00:59:02.320 you

00:59:02.540 Ezra

00:59:03.400 I sent

00:59:04.140 out a

00:59:04.480 tweet

00:59:04.880 I think

00:59:06.360 it was

00:59:07.080 February

00:59:07.620 of this

00:59:08.000 year

00:59:08.320 where

00:59:09.200 one of

00:59:09.700 the

00:59:10.020 key

00:59:10.220 phrases

00:59:10.720 was

00:59:11.080 excuse

00:59:12.960 the French

00:59:13.440 I'll

00:59:13.820 substitute

00:59:14.640 the word

00:59:15.080 to F

00:59:17.500 it said

00:59:18.400 F Hamas

00:59:19.380 F

00:59:20.260 Palestine

00:59:21.640 F Islam

00:59:22.540 and

00:59:23.620 I'm

00:59:23.900 under

00:59:24.040 investigation

00:59:24.620 for

00:59:24.840 setting

00:59:25.020 that

00:59:25.240 out

00:59:25.560 you

00:59:26.420 know

00:59:26.660 I've

00:59:28.900 been

00:59:29.000 thinking

00:59:29.240 about

00:59:29.420 this

00:59:29.600 issue

00:59:29.840 for

00:59:30.000 20

00:59:30.280 years

00:59:30.580 I

00:59:32.960 don't

00:59:33.080 know

00:59:33.180 if you

00:59:33.340 know

00:59:33.460 but

00:59:33.720 in

00:59:34.240 in the

00:59:35.780 early

00:59:35.960 2000s

00:59:36.740 I

00:59:36.880 published

00:59:37.380 in

00:59:37.640 Canada

00:59:38.060 the

00:59:39.320 Danish

00:59:40.060 cartoons

00:59:40.640 of the

00:59:41.020 Muslim

00:59:41.340 prophet

00:59:41.740 Mohammed

00:59:42.200 and that

00:59:43.000 launched

00:59:43.340 against

00:59:43.660 me

00:59:43.860 a

00:59:43.980 human

00:59:44.180 rights

00:59:44.440 complaint

00:59:44.840 that

00:59:45.020 lasted

00:59:45.320 900

00:59:45.740 days

00:59:46.300 and

00:59:47.320 I mean

00:59:47.820 I've

00:59:47.960 been

00:59:48.060 thinking

00:59:48.260 about

00:59:48.760 insulting

00:59:49.780 religion

00:59:50.320 a lot

00:59:50.800 and

00:59:51.120 I

00:59:52.500 wouldn't

00:59:53.340 walk up

00:59:53.800 to someone

00:59:54.180 and say

00:59:54.580 I wouldn't

00:59:56.100 walk up

00:59:56.440 to a

00:59:56.660 Muslim

00:59:56.900 person

00:59:57.200 and say

00:59:57.540 F

00:59:57.820 Islam

00:59:58.140 I

00:59:59.000 wouldn't

00:59:59.240 say

00:59:59.420 F

00:59:59.640 Islam

00:59:59.860 and I

01:00:00.200 wouldn't

01:00:00.500 burn

01:00:00.800 a

01:00:00.960 Quran

01:00:01.320 I

01:00:02.060 just

01:00:02.200 wouldn't

01:00:02.440 because

01:00:03.280 that's

01:00:03.620 not

01:00:03.760 my

01:00:03.940 style

01:00:04.380 and

01:00:04.960 I

01:00:05.420 generally

01:00:05.680 want to

01:00:06.000 go

01:00:06.100 through

01:00:06.300 life

01:00:06.660 being

01:00:07.660 moderate

01:00:08.800 in a

01:00:09.260 way

01:00:09.540 but

01:00:10.140 neither

01:00:10.620 do I

01:00:11.000 think

01:00:11.180 it should

01:00:11.480 be a

01:00:11.760 crime

01:00:12.240 to do

01:00:13.200 all the

01:00:13.480 things

01:00:13.720 I list

01:00:14.220 just

01:00:14.740 like

01:00:14.980 if

01:00:15.100 someone

01:00:15.340 said

01:00:15.600 F

01:00:15.860 Jesus

01:00:16.420 F

01:00:17.200 Christianity

01:00:17.960 or

01:00:20.760 God

01:00:21.320 forbid

01:00:21.620 burn

01:00:22.040 the

01:00:22.460 Bible

01:00:22.880 I

01:00:23.460 would

01:00:24.000 think

01:00:24.260 those

01:00:24.520 things

01:00:24.960 may

01:00:25.200 be

01:00:25.340 odious

01:00:25.820 they

01:00:26.280 may

01:00:26.480 be

01:00:26.660 provocative

01:00:27.160 they

01:00:27.680 may

01:00:27.880 be

01:00:28.040 attention

01:00:28.440 seeking

01:00:28.840 but

01:00:29.440 they

01:00:29.640 ought

01:00:30.040 not

01:00:30.240 to

01:00:30.400 be

01:00:30.540 crimes

01:00:31.080 and

01:00:31.840 I

01:00:32.680 feel

01:00:33.060 like

01:00:33.360 this

01:00:33.640 Islamophobia

01:00:34.480 push

01:00:34.980 is a

01:00:35.800 reintroduction

01:00:36.740 of

01:00:36.940 blasphemy

01:00:37.620 laws

01:00:38.080 because

01:00:38.600 I

01:00:38.760 think

01:00:38.920 of

01:00:39.000 my

01:00:39.120 late

01:00:39.360 friend

01:00:39.680 Tarek

01:00:40.140 Fata

01:00:40.440 who

01:00:41.240 was

01:00:41.440 born

01:00:42.640 Muslim

01:00:43.140 but

01:00:43.620 was

01:00:43.840 a

01:00:44.080 strong

01:00:44.660 critic

01:00:45.040 of

01:00:45.240 Islam

01:00:45.560 and

01:00:46.680 he

01:00:47.440 would

01:00:47.680 be

01:00:47.820 the

01:00:47.980 first

01:00:48.180 one

01:00:48.380 hit

01:00:48.660 with

01:00:49.400 a

01:00:49.700 genuine

01:00:50.240 Islamophobia

01:00:51.500 offense

01:00:52.080 because

01:00:52.580 he's

01:00:52.820 critical

01:00:53.140 of

01:00:53.400 Islam

01:00:53.680 and

01:00:54.180 that

01:00:54.340 whole

01:00:54.640 religion

01:00:55.220 some

01:00:55.520 would

01:00:55.680 say

01:00:55.820 needs

01:00:56.120 a

01:00:56.260 reformation

01:00:56.960 the

01:00:57.560 West

01:00:57.860 went

01:00:58.180 through

01:00:58.500 centuries

01:00:59.140 of

01:00:59.460 bloody

01:00:59.820 battles

01:01:00.660 Protestant

01:01:01.180 Catholics

01:01:01.960 still

01:01:02.760 rage

01:01:03.000 on

01:01:03.280 and

01:01:04.800 to

01:01:05.700 criminalize

01:01:06.760 criticism

01:01:07.320 of

01:01:07.540 Islam

01:01:07.820 and

01:01:08.000 what

01:01:08.160 even

01:01:08.360 is

01:01:08.680 the

01:01:09.760 view

01:01:09.980 of

01:01:10.180 Islam

01:01:10.860 that's

01:01:11.100 beyond

01:01:11.440 criticism

01:01:12.000 that's

01:01:12.700 what I

01:01:12.900 find

01:01:13.080 dangerous

01:01:13.540 well

01:01:14.700 the

01:01:14.920 thing

01:01:15.060 about

01:01:15.380 Islam

01:01:15.780 is

01:01:16.020 particularly

01:01:16.880 Islam

01:01:17.420 because

01:01:17.760 it's

01:01:18.140 both

01:01:18.340 a

01:01:18.540 secular

01:01:18.920 and

01:01:19.540 a

01:01:19.680 religious

01:01:20.020 way

01:01:20.640 of

01:01:20.800 life

01:01:21.140 all

01:01:21.620 rolled

01:01:21.900 into

01:01:22.140 one

01:01:22.440 and

01:01:22.880 therefore

01:01:23.140 it

01:01:23.400 is

01:01:24.260 an

01:01:24.520 ideology

01:01:25.140 and

01:01:25.980 any

01:01:26.280 ideology

01:01:27.020 must

01:01:27.800 be

01:01:28.300 subject

01:01:29.000 to

01:01:29.160 criticism

01:01:29.580 yeah

01:01:30.340 I think

01:01:30.840 you're

01:01:30.980 right

01:01:31.200 well

01:01:31.580 listen

01:01:31.800 David

01:01:32.020 you've

01:01:32.260 spent

01:01:32.440 a

01:01:32.580 full

01:01:32.720 hour

01:01:32.960 with

01:01:33.180 us

01:01:33.320 I'm

01:01:33.460 very

01:01:33.660 grateful

01:01:33.960 to

01:01:34.220 you

01:01:34.340 now

01:01:34.560 I

01:01:34.680 know

01:01:34.820 you're

01:01:35.000 a

01:01:35.100 real

01:01:35.260 person

01:01:35.760 and

01:01:36.140 not

01:01:36.360 just

01:01:36.540 named

01:01:36.780 after

01:01:37.080 the

01:01:37.260 Atherstone

01:01:37.780 ball

01:01:38.120 game

01:01:38.380 which

01:01:38.520 I'm

01:01:38.620 still

01:01:38.820 going

01:01:39.000 to

01:01:39.080 try

01:01:39.320 and

01:01:39.800 find

01:01:40.040 someone

01:01:40.280 to

01:01:40.440 visit

01:01:40.660 with

01:01:40.900 me

01:01:41.040 no

01:01:41.240 one

01:01:41.440 I

01:01:41.600 know

01:01:41.900 wants

01:01:42.500 to

01:01:42.680 go

01:01:42.840 see

01:01:43.140 that

01:01:43.500 sweaty

01:01:44.440 angry

01:01:46.160 mess

01:01:46.700 in

01:01:47.080 Atherstone

01:01:47.660 I find

01:01:48.180 it

01:01:48.300 amazing

01:01:48.820 sort

01:01:49.700 of

01:01:49.780 like

01:01:49.900 the

01:01:50.060 running

01:01:50.320 of

01:01:50.520 the

01:01:50.660 bulls

01:01:51.540 in

01:01:52.100 Patrona

01:01:52.720 but

01:01:53.120 it's

01:01:54.120 nice

01:01:54.320 to

01:01:54.460 talk

01:01:54.680 with

01:01:54.860 you

01:01:55.040 and

01:01:55.460 I

01:01:56.180 suppose

01:01:56.420 I

01:01:56.600 care

01:01:56.760 more

01:01:56.940 about

01:01:57.120 the

01:01:57.260 UK

01:01:57.460 than

01:01:57.700 the

01:01:57.840 average

01:01:58.060 Canadian

01:01:58.420 I

01:01:58.580 don't

01:01:58.720 know

01:01:58.840 why

01:01:59.000 that

01:01:59.180 is

01:01:59.360 other

01:01:59.520 than

01:01:59.700 I

01:01:59.860 see

01:02:00.140 that

01:02:00.780 it's

01:02:00.960 the

01:02:01.160 fountain

01:02:01.460 of

01:02:01.700 so

01:02:01.860 much

01:02:02.060 of

01:02:02.200 our

01:02:02.400 life

01:02:03.200 here

01:02:03.500 from

01:02:03.800 law

01:02:04.200 to

01:02:04.400 history

01:02:04.740 to

01:02:04.960 language

01:02:05.440 to

01:02:06.100 government

01:02:07.360 to

01:02:07.620 freedom

01:02:08.040 to

01:02:08.480 economics

01:02:09.360 to

01:02:09.660 there's

01:02:10.240 so

01:02:10.420 many

01:02:10.640 things

01:02:11.080 in

01:02:11.340 Canada

01:02:11.800 that

01:02:12.440 are

01:02:12.740 only

01:02:13.280 because

01:02:13.900 of

01:02:14.820 the

01:02:14.960 British

01:02:15.240 and

01:02:15.360 the

01:02:15.460 British

01:02:15.680 Empire

01:02:16.160 and

01:02:17.160 so

01:02:18.760 I

01:02:18.920 care

01:02:19.180 about

01:02:19.380 what's

01:02:19.620 happening

01:02:19.940 in

01:02:20.200 the

01:02:20.580 mother

01:02:20.800 country

01:02:21.260 for

01:02:22.820 reasons

01:02:23.440 of

01:02:23.600 history

01:02:23.900 also

01:02:24.240 because

01:02:24.560 what

01:02:24.780 happens

01:02:25.120 there

01:02:25.300 today

01:02:25.680 may

01:02:26.240 well

01:02:26.420 happen

01:02:26.720 here

01:02:26.920 tomorrow

01:02:27.280 it's

01:02:27.500 great

01:02:27.680 to

01:02:27.840 talk

01:02:28.060 with

01:02:28.220 you

01:02:28.380 and

01:02:28.480 to

01:02:28.560 get

01:02:28.680 to

01:02:28.800 know

01:02:28.920 you

01:02:29.020 a bit

01:02:29.260 great

01:02:31.640 to

01:02:32.100 see you

01:02:32.480 well

01:02:33.500 that's

01:02:33.700 our

01:02:33.800 show

01:02:33.920 for

01:02:34.040 today

01:02:34.420 until

01:02:35.560 tomorrow

01:02:35.980 on behalf

01:02:36.820 of all

01:02:37.100 of us

01:02:37.340 here at

01:02:37.640 Rebel

01:02:37.820 World

01:02:38.080 Headquarters

01:02:38.560 to you

01:02:38.840 at

01:02:38.960 home

01:02:39.180 good

01:02:39.860 night

01:02:40.060 and keep

01:02:41.220 fighting

01:02:41.480 for

01:02:41.700 freedom

01:02:53.440 I

01:02:55.300 I

01:02:55.540 I

01:02:55.960 I

01:02:56.280 I

01:02:56.560 I

01:02:57.000 I

01:03:02.360 I

01:03:03.300 I

01:03:03.820 I

01:03:05.880 I

01:03:07.840 I

01:03:10.800 I

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Rebel News Podcast - September 04, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Britain's proud legacy： A feature interview with David Atherton

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