Rebel News Podcast - June 05, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canada’s societal collapse on full display during David Portnoy's trip to Toronto


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

166.8384

Word Count

6,693

Sentence Count

513

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

When an American celebrity comes up to Toronto and does a newscast from the street and someone shouts, F the Jews? and the people around him just laugh, we ll talk a little bit about that. Plus, a great conversation with my friend Mark Carney about what Mark Carney calls decarbonized oil, and we ll try and figure out what that means.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. What does it mean when an American celebrity comes up to Toronto and does a newscast from the street and someone shouts at him, F the Jews, and the people around him just laugh?
00:00:11.680 Has Canada changed? I think maybe it has. We'll talk a little bit about that.
00:00:16.120 Plus, a great conversation with my friend Mark Morano about what Mark Carney calls decarbonized oil.
00:00:24.540 Yeah, it's like dehydrated water. We'll try and figure out what that means.
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00:01:33.740 Tonight, why are we letting our high-trust society be destroyed?
00:01:53.680 It's June 4th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:56.080 We're fighting for freedom.
00:01:59.400 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:02:11.160 Let me tell you about a pattern I've seen.
00:02:13.300 Let me see if I can link these things together into a common thread.
00:02:17.020 First, a blog entry by Dominique Cummings.
00:02:20.420 He's a conservative political guru in the United Kingdom, famous for working with Boris Johnson.
00:02:26.660 Here's what he wrote, and it immediately rang true to me.
00:02:29.420 He was talking about a lot of things, including the daily invasion of the UK by fake refugees on little boats coming across from France over the English Channel,
00:02:38.240 and how both the current labor government and the previous conservative government both said they wanted to stop the migrant boats,
00:02:45.320 but both of them continued to agree to be bound by the European Convention on Human Rights.
00:02:51.320 It's a left-wing European law as opposed to British law.
00:02:56.180 It would be like a Canadian prime minister saying,
00:02:58.140 I'd really like to close the Roxham Road border crossing, but the United Nations says I can't.
00:03:03.760 It was a very interesting blog post, but it was this quote that grabbed me on a different but related subject,
00:03:11.680 and I've just been thinking about it ever since.
00:03:13.680 He says,
00:03:14.320 If you talk to senior people in places like the United Arab Emirates,
00:03:19.400 they tell you that big shots in that region now tell each other,
00:03:23.360 don't send your kids to be educated in Britain.
00:03:26.540 They'll come back radical Islamist nutjobs.
00:03:29.760 That sounds like maybe he's joking, but I don't think he is at all.
00:03:35.280 In the United Arab Emirates, in Dubai, in Abu Dhabi, there are synagogues even.
00:03:40.640 There are Jews, and I'm talking with black hats and beards.
00:03:43.780 They're very identifiable Orthodox Jews.
00:03:46.620 I met a rabbi in the UAE who said he faces less abuse there than he does in New York City.
00:03:55.700 They don't allow the radicalization in the UAE.
00:04:00.200 Here's their foreign minister almost a decade ago.
00:04:03.580 There will come a day that we will see far more radical extremists and terrorists
00:04:10.640 coming out of Europe because of lack of decision-making,
00:04:17.940 trying to be politically correct,
00:04:20.700 or assuming that they know the Middle East and they know Islam
00:04:26.220 and they know the others far better than we do.
00:04:29.540 And I'm sorry, but that's pure ignorance.
00:04:33.120 You might remember when we had a Rebel News fact-finding trip to Israel
00:04:37.400 and then the UAE to check out the Abraham Accords.
00:04:40.760 We went to Abu Dhabi, and we saw where the government,
00:04:45.700 the Muslim government, built a mosque, a church, and a synagogue
00:04:49.920 right next to each other in an impressive facility.
00:04:53.240 Imagine that, a Muslim country paying for and building a Jewish synagogue
00:04:59.460 and a Christian church, and they're actually used.
00:05:03.240 There's even a Holocaust museum in the UAE.
00:05:06.820 Compare that to the West.
00:05:09.100 There are parts of London and New York,
00:05:11.660 and I dare say parts of Mississauga and Scarborough,
00:05:14.700 where if you simply dressed like an Orthodox Jew and walked through the streets,
00:05:19.120 you'd be abused verbally and possibly physically, too.
00:05:23.320 I think for sure you would.
00:05:25.560 Since I mentioned Dominique Cummings,
00:05:27.640 let me read a bit more from his blog.
00:05:30.000 He was once Boris Johnson's right-hand man,
00:05:32.080 so there's some weight to his words.
00:05:33.500 I'm just going to read a minute's worth.
00:05:35.180 He said,
00:05:36.520 Our regime has spent 30 years, A,
00:05:39.720 destroying border control and sane immigration,
00:05:43.520 including the home office's jihad
00:05:45.660 against the highest skilled whom they truly loathe,
00:05:49.120 discussing and try to repel with stupid fees, etc.,
00:05:53.260 and B,
00:05:54.540 actively prioritizing people from the most barbaric places on Earth.
00:05:59.040 Hence, immigration from the tribal areas
00:06:01.080 most responsible for the grooming and rape gangs keep rising.
00:06:04.900 And C,
00:06:06.040 funding the spread of those barbaric ideas
00:06:07.720 and defending the organizations,
00:06:09.740 spreading them with human rights laws
00:06:11.680 designed to stop the return of totalitarianism in Europe.
00:06:14.940 In parallel, they've started propaganda operations
00:06:17.500 with the old media to spread the meme
00:06:19.680 that our real danger is the far-right code for white people.
00:06:24.320 As Tories and labor have continued their deranged trajectory,
00:06:27.860 they have provoked exactly the reactions they most feared,
00:06:31.180 including the spreading meme
00:06:32.640 that our regime itself has become our enemy
00:06:35.640 and the growing politicization of white English nationalism.
00:06:41.460 That's quite an earful, but wow.
00:06:43.960 I mean, it's almost like everything has accelerated in the UK
00:06:47.820 if people like Dominic Cummings are talking this way.
00:06:50.460 It's what Tommy Robinson has been talking about for a decade, by the way.
00:06:54.460 Mass immigration, terrorism, political Islam that does not assimilate.
00:06:58.980 It's one of the reasons they've tried to shut Tommy Robinson up,
00:07:01.500 but now his ideas have spread.
00:07:03.680 You can't put that genie back in the bottle.
00:07:05.480 Nigel Farage is campaigning for a full immigration freeze.
00:07:08.880 He's talking about large deportations.
00:07:11.300 There is a renewed interest in the massive rape gangs
00:07:14.720 that have been targeting white girls
00:07:16.180 by primarily Pakistani Muslim men.
00:07:18.480 Sorry, it's just a fact,
00:07:20.300 but until recently, very few people would say it out loud.
00:07:24.100 There have been multiple cases now,
00:07:26.520 and it's beyond any level of doubt
00:07:27.980 that there's a disproportionate number of British Muslims
00:07:31.380 involved in grooming gangs against underage white girls.
00:07:35.280 And to say that is to report on the facts.
00:07:38.880 It's not to be racist.
00:07:40.900 And if we're backing away from this conversation,
00:07:43.500 then all we're doing is leaving the ground far open
00:07:46.980 in what is a legitimate issue that requires addressing.
00:07:50.460 We're leaving the ground for the populists
00:07:52.500 to hijack that legitimate issue
00:07:54.240 and make it their own for their own nefarious purposes.
00:07:58.360 That's Majid Nawaz,
00:07:59.680 a British-Pakistani journalist and critic.
00:08:01.520 That's the only reason he could say it,
00:08:03.260 because no one would accuse him
00:08:05.180 of being anti-Pakistanian Muslim.
00:08:07.140 He's both of those things.
00:08:08.320 Anyways, many more people are talking about these things now
00:08:10.620 in the UK, but boy, that country is so far gone,
00:08:13.280 I really don't know if the place can be saved.
00:08:15.300 I hope so.
00:08:16.480 It might be too late,
00:08:17.320 but polls show that Nigel Farage
00:08:18.600 would win a majority government
00:08:19.700 if the election were to happen today.
00:08:21.500 Isn't that something about the United Arab Emirates, though?
00:08:24.660 They think the Muslims of the UK are too anti-Semitic.
00:08:28.180 I think Saudi Arabia has the same view.
00:08:30.920 You know, US Vice President J.D. Vance once joked
00:08:33.780 that the first Muslim nation with a nuclear bomb
00:08:36.500 would be the UK.
00:08:38.280 Of course, Pakistan already has one,
00:08:41.160 but the joke still works.
00:08:42.960 But look, enough about overseas.
00:08:45.280 Look at Canada.
00:08:46.600 Here's Dave Portnoy,
00:08:47.880 the American journalist and sports enthusiast
00:08:50.780 and entrepreneur.
00:08:51.660 He's got Barstool Sports.
00:08:53.900 One of his hobbies or business lines
00:08:55.840 is to review pizzas.
00:08:57.260 He reviews hundreds of pizzas.
00:08:58.940 It's quite something.
00:08:59.780 He always goes to the pizza shop in person
00:09:01.820 so it's fresh out of the oven.
00:09:03.640 He's a pretty good reviewer, by the way.
00:09:05.020 I think he's got good taste.
00:09:06.260 And he's made an app
00:09:07.580 that has a map of every pizza shop
00:09:09.880 he's ever been to
00:09:10.720 with his score
00:09:11.900 and with the public score
00:09:13.280 and a video of his review.
00:09:14.820 It's actually a really fun app.
00:09:16.160 And it's a huge deal
00:09:17.840 in the pizza world
00:09:18.600 to be reviewed by Dave Portnoy.
00:09:20.860 So he comes up to Toronto
00:09:22.160 and he'll hit five or ten pizza places
00:09:24.740 in a day.
00:09:25.860 Bam, bam, bam.
00:09:26.660 One after the other
00:09:27.180 just to bank the videos.
00:09:29.100 Because obviously it's,
00:09:30.740 you know, he does other things in life
00:09:31.940 besides review pizzas.
00:09:33.060 So he was here in Toronto
00:09:34.120 about to do his thing.
00:09:36.540 And remember,
00:09:37.340 this guy is in the biggest,
00:09:39.460 brashest, rudest cities
00:09:41.480 in America all the time.
00:09:43.400 He's from Philly.
00:09:44.560 And I pick up from him
00:09:46.660 that they swear a lot.
00:09:48.420 He hangs out in New York,
00:09:50.040 Chicago, New Jersey.
00:09:51.780 People come up to him.
00:09:53.040 People interrupt him.
00:09:54.040 People ask him for his life.
00:09:55.260 He offers people his life.
00:09:56.880 Half the fun is watching people
00:09:58.460 interact with Dave Portnoy
00:09:59.720 and surprise him.
00:10:01.460 But I've never seen this happen before,
00:10:03.760 no matter where he's been.
00:10:05.040 Take a look.
00:10:05.520 So he's calling this
00:10:06.720 old school Terrazza.
00:10:08.360 One bite,
00:10:08.820 everybody knows the rules.
00:10:09.740 We didn't get here the first time.
00:10:12.340 Place is very cool on the inside.
00:10:14.280 We got Frankie Lasagna's whole story,
00:10:16.080 which almost seemed borderline
00:10:17.220 not believable.
00:10:18.980 Like, see, there we go.
00:10:22.720 There we go.
00:10:23.740 What are you guys fucking laughing about?
00:10:25.500 Terrible.
00:10:27.420 Exactly.
00:10:29.200 So here we go.
00:10:30.320 One bite,
00:10:30.700 everybody knows the rules.
00:10:32.260 We won't let that get into.
00:10:33.500 What is that Toronto hospitality there?
00:10:35.520 Oh, F the Jews.
00:10:37.840 That's Toronto now.
00:10:39.580 And the giggling
00:10:40.300 from the young men around him
00:10:41.720 because it's so funny, right?
00:10:43.920 Portnoy keeps going,
00:10:44.980 doing his thing,
00:10:45.560 but not before remarking
00:10:46.760 on Canadian hospitality.
00:10:49.720 When did that start to happen?
00:10:53.000 Well, it's been building for a while,
00:10:54.440 but on October 7th,
00:10:55.580 there was a starter pistol
00:10:57.080 and throughout the West,
00:10:58.360 Islamic extremists
00:10:59.220 and leftist fellow travelers,
00:11:01.000 Antifa and the like,
00:11:01.920 decided to see
00:11:03.300 what they could get away with,
00:11:04.400 what they could make
00:11:05.420 the new normal.
00:11:06.760 Now, in places like Calgary
00:11:08.040 and Edmonton, actually,
00:11:09.240 things were tamped down
00:11:10.820 pretty quickly
00:11:11.440 when the University of Calgary
00:11:12.500 had an illegal,
00:11:14.240 trespassing,
00:11:15.380 anti-Semitic encampment
00:11:16.740 on their university,
00:11:19.040 put up largely
00:11:20.380 by non-students.
00:11:21.440 It was taken down by police
00:11:22.900 the very next day.
00:11:23.620 It was taken down by police
00:11:25.000 the very next day.
00:11:51.440 That's Calgary.
00:12:12.120 But in Toronto and Montreal,
00:12:13.580 the racist encampments
00:12:14.680 lasted weeks or months.
00:12:16.460 Weekly anti-Semitic marches,
00:12:18.300 attacks and harassment
00:12:20.540 against Jewish shops,
00:12:22.160 Jewish people,
00:12:22.960 Jewish homes,
00:12:24.240 constant denunciations
00:12:25.660 of Jews,
00:12:26.500 first on the streets
00:12:27.520 and in the universities,
00:12:28.740 now in other institutions.
00:12:30.040 It's normal now,
00:12:31.080 normalized completely.
00:12:32.520 And nobody who is in charge,
00:12:34.580 no one who's a leader,
00:12:36.300 does anything about it.
00:12:37.300 Not the mayor,
00:12:37.840 not the police chief,
00:12:38.640 not the premier,
00:12:39.420 not the prime minister,
00:12:40.460 not much of the media.
00:12:42.000 Everyone who's supposed
00:12:42.740 to say something
00:12:43.440 says nothing.
00:12:44.800 Are you surprised
00:12:45.620 that the establishment
00:12:46.420 is letting you down again?
00:12:48.060 I'm not surprised at them.
00:12:49.980 Look at this
00:12:50.560 from Union Station.
00:12:51.760 That's the biggest train station
00:12:53.000 in Toronto.
00:12:53.980 Take a look.
00:12:54.360 Can't you hear
00:12:56.860 the response?
00:13:00.260 Just taking over the place,
00:13:05.780 just having a little
00:13:06.420 political rally right there
00:13:07.580 in the subway in rush hour.
00:13:09.240 They take over the streets,
00:13:11.060 city blocks.
00:13:12.360 There's a hundred mosques
00:13:13.260 in the Toronto area,
00:13:14.120 but they'll just shut down
00:13:15.580 a city street to pray.
00:13:17.840 They took over the Jewish march
00:13:19.580 a couple of weeks ago,
00:13:21.040 and police acted
00:13:22.120 as their bodyguards.
00:13:24.200 56,000 Jews marched,
00:13:26.560 a hundred Hamas protesters.
00:13:28.000 If it was left to Mother Nature,
00:13:30.100 the Hamas side
00:13:30.780 would have been,
00:13:31.700 shall we say,
00:13:32.440 shepherded away pretty quickly,
00:13:34.000 but the police protected them
00:13:36.020 because that's normal now.
00:13:39.440 What does that have to do
00:13:40.860 with Dave Portnoy?
00:13:42.080 What does it have to do
00:13:42.880 with any of the things
00:13:43.640 I've been talking about?
00:13:44.600 We used to be
00:13:45.340 a high-trust society in Canada.
00:13:46.780 We used to have an understanding
00:13:48.440 of what it meant
00:13:49.020 to be Canadian,
00:13:49.660 and in the past 18 months,
00:13:51.580 the Hamas side
00:13:52.320 has moved the Overton window
00:13:53.640 so much.
00:13:54.800 What if someone had
00:13:55.880 shouted out the N-word?
00:13:58.300 at Dave Portnoy
00:13:59.260 instead of the J-word?
00:14:01.340 It would have been shocking.
00:14:02.460 I'm not sure if those young men
00:14:03.740 in the background
00:14:04.200 would have been giggling
00:14:04.920 because there is still
00:14:06.660 a social shame,
00:14:08.300 a stigma attached
00:14:09.860 to such racism.
00:14:11.040 It just isn't acceptable
00:14:12.340 in public.
00:14:13.340 Maybe you whisper it
00:14:14.100 to your friends,
00:14:14.680 but no one would say it
00:14:15.760 in public.
00:14:16.180 It's not a matter of the law.
00:14:19.340 It's actually not unlawful
00:14:20.580 to say the N-word
00:14:21.480 or F the Jews.
00:14:22.700 It's not illegal.
00:14:24.500 But it's so socially unacceptable,
00:14:26.080 no one would do it
00:14:27.400 unless perhaps they
00:14:28.280 were hiding their face.
00:14:30.680 But to say F the Jews
00:14:31.900 or even death to the Jews
00:14:33.160 has happened so much
00:14:35.080 without any meaningful
00:14:35.940 social consequences
00:14:37.240 that that's what Canada is now.
00:14:40.560 You don't see a lot of people
00:14:41.460 saying that's not
00:14:42.600 what Canada is
00:14:43.600 because no,
00:14:44.540 there's only so many times
00:14:46.500 you can call it
00:14:47.280 an anomaly before.
00:14:48.380 No, that's not an anomaly.
00:14:49.620 That's just how it is.
00:14:51.320 I say it's about a low trust
00:14:53.020 or a high trust society
00:14:54.000 because a high trust society
00:14:55.380 counts on each of us
00:14:56.420 to have a common bond
00:14:59.080 with each other,
00:14:59.660 to be self-governing
00:15:00.600 because we respect
00:15:02.100 and know each other.
00:15:03.080 We're part of a large family,
00:15:04.740 shall we say.
00:15:05.560 We don't need the state
00:15:06.720 to intervene.
00:15:07.980 We're friends.
00:15:08.780 We're extended friends.
00:15:10.020 We're like a clan, really.
00:15:12.480 In a high trust society,
00:15:14.460 people don't go to the food bank
00:15:16.100 to do their grocery shopping.
00:15:17.920 We all acknowledge
00:15:18.900 it's for the truly needy.
00:15:19.860 We control ourselves.
00:15:21.420 In a low trust society,
00:15:24.000 like Canada has become,
00:15:25.400 international students here
00:15:26.520 think we're suckers
00:15:27.440 who gives away free food
00:15:28.940 so they go and just take
00:15:30.560 the free food
00:15:31.540 instead of grocery shopping.
00:15:33.060 In a high trust society,
00:15:34.480 people are respectful of women.
00:15:37.320 In a low trust society,
00:15:38.560 including most of the Muslim world,
00:15:40.700 women are covered from head to toe.
00:15:42.240 They're hidden.
00:15:42.740 They're not allowed
00:15:43.640 out of their guardian's sight
00:15:44.960 lest they be harassed
00:15:46.440 or even raped.
00:15:48.140 We're heading in that direction.
00:15:50.740 In a high trust society,
00:15:52.120 we agree to a common set of values
00:15:53.620 that are enforced
00:15:54.560 through the social lubricant
00:15:56.160 of politeness and culture
00:15:57.620 and expectations,
00:15:58.960 not through police batons.
00:16:00.700 We agree not to shout
00:16:02.580 at blacks or Jews
00:16:03.900 just because at best,
00:16:06.280 that's rude.
00:16:08.080 At worst,
00:16:08.820 it judges people
00:16:09.700 by race or religion
00:16:10.680 instead of by the content
00:16:12.280 of their character.
00:16:12.920 It's a herd mentality.
00:16:16.560 It's not being part
00:16:18.860 of an open society.
00:16:19.880 It's not what our grandparents
00:16:20.700 fought for.
00:16:22.020 That's part of high trust.
00:16:23.240 It's a pact we have
00:16:24.140 with the past too.
00:16:25.360 What would our grandparents say?
00:16:26.640 But what if you just got here
00:16:27.740 off a plane 10 minutes ago
00:16:29.260 and your grandparents
00:16:30.000 are from the most bigoted
00:16:31.780 parts of the world?
00:16:33.840 You don't care about
00:16:34.740 canonist history.
00:16:35.520 No one even told you
00:16:36.200 about canonist history.
00:16:37.260 You can't learn anything
00:16:38.380 about canonist history
00:16:39.320 other than apparently
00:16:40.060 were genociders.
00:16:41.620 That's what Trudeau said.
00:16:43.440 And a lot of Canadians
00:16:44.480 don't seem to care.
00:16:46.580 I see the news
00:16:47.720 that 817,000 migrants
00:16:51.040 were allowed into Canada
00:16:52.060 in the first quarter
00:16:52.840 of the year.
00:16:53.580 That's unsupportable.
00:16:55.220 That's unsustainable
00:16:56.160 to use a word of the left.
00:16:57.840 And many of those people
00:16:58.780 are not racist.
00:16:59.980 They're not criminals.
00:17:01.080 They're just here
00:17:01.720 because this is where
00:17:03.100 all the goodies are.
00:17:03.980 Can you blame them?
00:17:04.760 And we let them come in.
00:17:06.280 Those are just 817,000
00:17:08.020 legal migrants.
00:17:10.060 But it's impossible
00:17:11.240 not to notice
00:17:11.880 that a disproportionate
00:17:12.900 number of newcomers
00:17:13.800 are malevolent.
00:17:16.040 They are not a fit
00:17:17.640 for the country.
00:17:18.520 There's no attempt
00:17:19.320 to assimilate them.
00:17:20.480 They revert to
00:17:21.720 outgroup conduct.
00:17:23.620 Check out this crime
00:17:25.060 from Toronto revealed
00:17:26.000 just today.
00:17:26.560 This doesn't look
00:17:27.280 like Canada looks to you.
00:17:29.140 This looks like
00:17:30.040 a foreign place.
00:17:31.200 Yeah, we live
00:17:31.600 in a new country now.
00:17:32.960 Look, I don't know.
00:17:33.660 I've mixed in
00:17:34.900 a few things here.
00:17:35.840 Canada is getting
00:17:36.400 more dangerous.
00:17:37.180 Canada is getting
00:17:38.320 more radical.
00:17:38.900 Canadian norms
00:17:39.900 are being undone.
00:17:41.000 The cultural bonds
00:17:42.380 that unite us
00:17:43.000 are being frayed.
00:17:44.320 Look at this.
00:17:45.260 A dance from
00:17:46.140 the York Regional Police.
00:17:48.020 I checked
00:17:48.440 and pretty much
00:17:49.020 every single crime,
00:17:51.040 no matter how you measure,
00:17:52.200 property crime,
00:17:52.880 violent crime,
00:17:53.620 in York Region
00:17:54.520 is at a record level.
00:17:56.000 And it's like double
00:17:56.840 what it was
00:17:57.420 a few years ago.
00:17:58.280 But they're having
00:17:59.760 their LGBTQSL plus event.
00:18:03.360 And that's really
00:18:04.440 what counts.
00:18:06.220 Migration is happening
00:18:07.220 at an unsustainable,
00:18:08.300 unassimilable rate.
00:18:09.280 You'll be able to avoid
00:18:10.280 the problem for a while
00:18:11.280 if you avoid certain places.
00:18:13.760 But those certain places
00:18:15.820 are growing.
00:18:16.900 Your little islands
00:18:17.880 of what Canada used to be
00:18:19.320 is getting smaller.
00:18:20.400 And the monsters
00:18:21.980 are walking everywhere
00:18:23.020 in the country now.
00:18:24.500 How did it come
00:18:25.220 to be that way?
00:18:26.100 That the UAE
00:18:27.160 warns its parents
00:18:28.140 not to send their children
00:18:29.460 to the West
00:18:30.160 for fear of becoming radical.
00:18:31.960 And how did it come
00:18:32.780 to be that way
00:18:33.820 so quickly?
00:18:35.940 I don't know.
00:18:36.620 Maybe this is
00:18:37.160 a disjointed commentary.
00:18:38.760 But it's what Canada
00:18:40.320 looks like to me today.
00:18:42.860 Stay with us for more.
00:18:56.220 Well, about 15 years ago,
00:18:57.960 I'm pleased to have invented
00:18:59.480 the words ethical oil.
00:19:02.620 In fact, I think I might
00:19:03.460 have even trademarked them.
00:19:04.600 I'll have to check it.
00:19:06.020 And the left hated that
00:19:08.420 because they said
00:19:09.340 oil cannot be ethical.
00:19:12.100 It's a contradiction in terms.
00:19:13.820 While the joke was on them,
00:19:15.180 of course oil can be ethical.
00:19:16.900 In fact, the more ethically
00:19:18.700 you produce it,
00:19:19.580 the more you should buy oil
00:19:21.180 from places like Canada,
00:19:22.880 the United States,
00:19:23.800 the United Kingdom,
00:19:24.460 as opposed to conflict oil
00:19:27.240 from places like OPEC and Russia.
00:19:29.480 They hated it
00:19:30.720 because it made sense
00:19:32.100 to people immediately.
00:19:34.540 Well, I wrote a book
00:19:35.500 by that name
00:19:36.060 and I had a lot of fun
00:19:37.160 fighting the bad guys.
00:19:39.540 So imagine my surprise
00:19:41.220 the other day
00:19:41.900 when my new prime minister,
00:19:44.220 Mark Carney,
00:19:45.420 invented a phrase
00:19:46.460 of his own.
00:19:47.620 And I'm not sure
00:19:48.620 if he's going to trademark it
00:19:50.280 or write a book about it,
00:19:53.720 but I'd like to learn more.
00:19:55.780 I've never heard
00:19:57.460 of decarbonized oil.
00:20:01.260 Have you?
00:20:02.120 Here, take a look
00:20:02.960 at my prime minister
00:20:03.940 teaching me something.
00:20:05.320 Now, within the broader context
00:20:06.680 of national interest,
00:20:08.280 the interest is in,
00:20:09.500 as mentioned in the press release,
00:20:11.620 decarbonized barrels.
00:20:13.340 So working alongside
00:20:14.560 forms of decarbonization
00:20:16.340 for those barrels,
00:20:17.080 that is absolutely
00:20:17.980 in our interest.
00:20:18.620 It provides diversification
00:20:19.840 of trade partners.
00:20:21.060 It provides the development
00:20:23.140 of new industries.
00:20:24.740 It provides economic activity
00:20:27.140 across the West
00:20:28.740 and into the North.
00:20:30.620 So, yes,
00:20:31.480 there's real potential there.
00:20:33.540 We took up a good deal
00:20:35.860 of our time and discussions
00:20:36.900 and potential
00:20:37.800 to move forward on that.
00:20:38.680 And if further developed,
00:20:40.880 the federal government
00:20:41.440 will look to advance it.
00:20:43.060 Guys, I've got to tell you,
00:20:44.120 the chemical formula
00:20:46.380 for oil involves carbon.
00:20:49.100 It won't surprise you.
00:20:50.260 Carbon, hydrogen, oxygen,
00:20:52.680 pretty much the building blocks
00:20:53.920 of life.
00:20:54.700 You cannot take the carbon
00:20:57.000 out of oil.
00:20:58.460 It won't be oil then.
00:21:00.360 I mean, I suppose
00:21:02.000 you could think he means
00:21:03.920 there's some sort of a,
00:21:05.760 I don't know,
00:21:06.280 less emissions approach
00:21:07.900 to producing it.
00:21:09.100 But I don't know,
00:21:09.820 when he kept talking
00:21:10.640 about decarbonized oil
00:21:12.000 again and again,
00:21:13.100 I don't think I've ever
00:21:14.060 heard that phrase.
00:21:15.860 Joining me now
00:21:16.480 is someone who's much smarter
00:21:17.480 than me on these subjects.
00:21:18.520 Maybe he's heard of it.
00:21:19.500 His name is Mark Morano.
00:21:20.760 He's the boss
00:21:21.500 of climatedepot.com.
00:21:23.180 Mark, great to see you again.
00:21:25.380 What do you think about Canada
00:21:27.140 and our new decarbonized oil?
00:21:30.780 I've got two minds on it,
00:21:32.440 but I'd like your view first.
00:21:36.400 Well, I can honestly say,
00:21:37.720 and I've been at this
00:21:38.480 since the early 90s,
00:21:39.740 I have not heard the phrase
00:21:41.140 decarbonized oil before.
00:21:43.120 I haven't heard of decarbonized gas,
00:21:44.700 decarbonized coal.
00:21:46.520 It's a new one on me.
00:21:48.260 As you know,
00:21:48.920 we're all,
00:21:49.320 it's all carbon based.
00:21:50.680 So I don't know how you would
00:21:51.860 actually remove the carbon.
00:21:53.420 As even a, you know,
00:21:54.360 climate activist scientist
00:21:55.820 told Prime Minister Carney,
00:21:58.660 this is basic physics.
00:22:00.400 You can't, in chemistry,
00:22:01.640 there's no such thing
00:22:02.520 as decarbonized oil.
00:22:04.260 Now, I think you should take a bow
00:22:06.040 because this is Prime Minister Carney's
00:22:07.820 way of saying ethical oil
00:22:09.780 without actually saying ethical oil.
00:22:11.860 That's his intent anyway.
00:22:13.520 He's trying to say
00:22:14.460 that we can make this work
00:22:16.100 here in Canada
00:22:16.780 and that this is, you know,
00:22:17.880 it's actually good
00:22:18.720 because we have high standards.
00:22:20.060 But he is having,
00:22:21.060 the real sinister angle,
00:22:22.720 the whole story,
00:22:23.460 and if you get to read this
00:22:24.500 in the news articles
00:22:26.060 and a little deeper dive
00:22:27.540 into what he's up to,
00:22:28.840 he's referring to carbon capture,
00:22:30.800 which is essentially a scam.
00:22:33.440 You know, you capture carbon dioxide,
00:22:35.600 bury it in the ground.
00:22:36.960 It's a way here in the United States
00:22:38.440 in particular
00:22:38.940 for Republican politicians
00:22:40.700 to pay off their donors.
00:22:42.420 Democrat donors typically get paid off
00:22:44.280 with solar and wind mandates
00:22:46.000 and subsidies that way.
00:22:47.680 Republican donors
00:22:48.440 both get subsidies
00:22:50.220 but like these carbon capture.
00:22:51.920 So what I think,
00:22:52.720 Prime Minister Carney,
00:22:53.500 if I can translate,
00:22:54.860 in addition to him trying to say
00:22:56.300 something close to ethical oil,
00:22:57.500 he's basically saying,
00:22:58.540 we're going to offset the emissions of this
00:23:01.000 by doing a, you know,
00:23:02.640 kangaroo charade
00:23:03.840 of burying carbon dioxide in the ground
00:23:06.760 and we're going to pay
00:23:07.320 lots of contractors and companies
00:23:08.900 lots of taxpayer money
00:23:10.420 and we're going to do
00:23:11.260 some accounting tricks
00:23:12.240 and hey,
00:23:12.980 we're going to be able to show
00:23:14.020 that the emissions have been offset.
00:23:15.760 Hence the phrase,
00:23:17.020 he carbonized oil.
00:23:18.400 Yeah.
00:23:18.900 I think you're right.
00:23:20.580 When I first heard it,
00:23:21.940 I thought he,
00:23:23.220 I thought he was basically saying
00:23:25.400 there will be no oil
00:23:27.040 that's exported
00:23:28.640 because there's no such thing
00:23:29.940 but, you know,
00:23:31.080 I just can't get over the word.
00:23:32.700 It's like dehydrated water.
00:23:34.380 I've got this amazing idea
00:23:37.160 for dehydrated water, Mark.
00:23:38.980 But you know,
00:23:39.420 I actually,
00:23:40.000 I think you're right
00:23:40.720 and I think maybe
00:23:42.000 I was just so startled
00:23:43.040 by the phrase
00:23:43.580 because I was looking at this.
00:23:44.980 Let me read to you a headline
00:23:46.240 in the biggest newspaper in Canada
00:23:48.940 called the Toronto Star.
00:23:50.140 It's also famously environmentalist.
00:23:52.600 They actually take cash
00:23:54.720 from U.S. lobby groups
00:23:56.300 like the Tides Foundation
00:23:57.480 to run climate stories
00:23:59.520 so they don't even pretend.
00:24:00.960 And now their headline is
00:24:02.240 government advisor slams Mark Carney
00:24:06.020 for promoting decarbonized oil pipelines.
00:24:09.700 And it's from within his own party.
00:24:13.240 Yeah.
00:24:13.580 I mean,
00:24:13.880 they have so many climate scientists
00:24:16.240 on their staff.
00:24:17.740 And you're so right.
00:24:19.140 But they're saying,
00:24:21.120 let me just read
00:24:21.740 just a little bit of this
00:24:22.500 and then I'll throw it to you
00:24:23.260 for your feedback.
00:24:25.440 The co-chair
00:24:26.040 of the federal government's
00:24:26.900 Climate Action Advisory Group
00:24:28.540 is slamming Prime Minister Mark Carney
00:24:30.520 for using fossil fuel marketing speak
00:24:33.400 at Monday's summit
00:24:34.760 with provincial leaders
00:24:35.560 when he endorsed the idea
00:24:36.520 of building new pipelines
00:24:37.520 for decarbonized oil.
00:24:39.840 Simon Donner,
00:24:41.540 a climate scientist
00:24:42.400 at the University of British Columbia
00:24:43.540 who co-chairs
00:24:44.720 the liberal government's
00:24:45.520 Net Zero Advisory Body,
00:24:47.360 alleged the term is misleading
00:24:49.100 because it falsely suggests
00:24:51.020 there's a way to burn fossil fuels
00:24:52.360 without creating greenhouse gas emissions
00:24:54.360 that cause climate change.
00:24:56.340 There is no such thing
00:24:57.620 as decarbonized oil and gas.
00:24:59.640 Oil contains carbon.
00:25:01.120 It is high school chemistry.
00:25:02.940 You know what?
00:25:04.280 I was getting my dander up
00:25:06.580 because I thought
00:25:07.100 this guy's trying to pull a fast one.
00:25:09.240 Maybe, Mark,
00:25:10.900 maybe he's trying to slide it
00:25:13.120 through his own people.
00:25:14.300 Listen,
00:25:14.700 I am willing to say
00:25:16.020 there is a 10% chance
00:25:18.420 that Mark Carney
00:25:19.580 will let the oil flow
00:25:21.540 if he can just call it
00:25:22.840 decarbonized oil
00:25:24.260 and if that's what we have to do
00:25:25.720 to go along with it,
00:25:27.040 I'm ready.
00:25:29.480 I agree with you.
00:25:30.480 I mean,
00:25:30.900 you guys are in such a
00:25:32.460 no-win situation.
00:25:34.680 I hate to say it,
00:25:35.500 particularly on energy
00:25:36.440 and climate policy,
00:25:37.820 so to speak.
00:25:38.740 You know,
00:25:39.020 if the one negative thing,
00:25:40.840 the very negative thing
00:25:41.940 that Donald Trump,
00:25:42.520 anything he did
00:25:43.180 to contribute
00:25:43.860 to the Canadian nationalism
00:25:45.320 which elected Mark Carney,
00:25:47.900 that was all on Donald Trump,
00:25:49.360 at least for his part of it,
00:25:50.860 for wanting you
00:25:52.000 to be the 51st state
00:25:53.240 and creating that wave
00:25:54.520 of nationalism
00:25:55.140 that Carney wrote in on.
00:25:56.980 It's that version
00:25:57.760 of politics is true.
00:25:59.420 You know,
00:25:59.540 I don't know,
00:25:59.880 you might disagree with that,
00:26:00.860 but that's the conventional view
00:26:02.180 that we have here
00:26:02.940 in the United States.
00:26:04.300 And I think
00:26:05.060 what Carney's doing,
00:26:06.400 keep in mind,
00:26:06.920 he was the head
00:26:07.520 of the Bank of England,
00:26:08.400 the Bank of Canada,
00:26:09.140 and he is a man
00:26:10.440 steeped in ESG,
00:26:12.520 steeped in climate financing.
00:26:14.720 He knows all about
00:26:15.880 how carbon capture works.
00:26:17.200 He knows all about
00:26:17.980 how to sell things.
00:26:19.120 As I said before,
00:26:20.520 he's not,
00:26:21.240 Justin Trudeau
00:26:22.000 was the puppet.
00:26:23.060 He's the puppet,
00:26:23.900 Carney is the puppet master.
00:26:25.400 So he understands all this
00:26:26.880 and this might be
00:26:28.000 exactly what you're saying.
00:26:29.180 He's signaling
00:26:29.800 to his side,
00:26:31.740 if you will,
00:26:32.820 that we need this oil
00:26:34.100 because in order for him
00:26:35.000 to maintain
00:26:35.580 a governing coalition
00:26:37.100 in Canada
00:26:37.700 and start recovering
00:26:39.100 your economy,
00:26:39.940 you've got to open up oil,
00:26:41.340 you've got to allow drilling,
00:26:42.660 you've got to have
00:26:43.560 more energy.
00:26:44.900 And if he's got to do it
00:26:46.060 through twisting
00:26:47.400 basic chemistry,
00:26:49.340 then by golly,
00:26:50.520 that's what he'll do.
00:26:51.180 And believe me,
00:26:52.080 these scientists
00:26:52.700 that are speaking out,
00:26:53.880 the climate activists,
00:26:55.060 they're going to be quiet
00:26:56.000 if they think
00:26:57.160 it's for the greater good
00:26:58.280 of the Carney administration.
00:26:59.620 He's a man
00:27:00.740 of great strategic thinking.
00:27:04.120 And I think
00:27:04.540 that phrase,
00:27:05.880 decarbonized oil,
00:27:07.160 is part of his thinking
00:27:08.600 on that.
00:27:09.080 And by the way,
00:27:09.660 you deserve full credit
00:27:10.840 because you were about
00:27:11.560 a decade and a half ahead
00:27:13.140 with the ethical.
00:27:14.260 I remember when I first heard
00:27:15.280 you talking about that,
00:27:17.000 I believe it was probably
00:27:18.260 around 2014,
00:27:19.560 if I'm not mistaken,
00:27:20.380 maybe even a couple years earlier.
00:27:22.520 But that was a huge phrase
00:27:24.140 because the whole idea
00:27:25.200 of the ethical oil
00:27:26.000 and then your work
00:27:27.000 was actually validated
00:27:28.760 by another Canadian report
00:27:30.760 about basically reducing,
00:27:33.040 going after carbon,
00:27:35.720 CO2 emissions
00:27:36.940 or carbon dioxide emissions
00:27:38.040 in the Western nations
00:27:39.440 increases carbon dioxide,
00:27:41.720 period,
00:27:42.460 because all it does
00:27:43.300 is offshore the energy
00:27:44.360 to places with low
00:27:45.160 environmental standards
00:27:46.100 and low technological advancement.
00:27:49.400 And that's exactly
00:27:50.140 what's happened.
00:27:50.740 We've seen CO2 continue
00:27:52.120 to rise as countries
00:27:53.700 like Canada,
00:27:54.500 the US,
00:27:54.920 and Europe
00:27:55.620 have crunched down
00:27:58.460 and severely restricted
00:27:59.460 their energy.
00:28:00.140 So you were way ahead
00:28:01.220 of your time.
00:28:02.200 Mark Carney
00:28:02.700 is borrowing a page
00:28:03.900 from you in marketing.
00:28:04.660 He's unfortunately
00:28:06.060 twisting science
00:28:07.200 in his version,
00:28:08.220 but I think he's
00:28:09.500 sort of forced to do this
00:28:10.600 and I think there is
00:28:11.360 a strategic political move
00:28:13.460 on Canadians' part
00:28:14.400 to go along
00:28:15.660 with this bastardization
00:28:16.960 of science
00:28:17.560 if it means you can
00:28:18.700 actually get some
00:28:19.500 of this decarbonized oil.
00:28:21.580 Isn't that interesting?
00:28:22.520 You know,
00:28:22.720 when you were coming
00:28:23.880 on the show
00:28:24.300 and I was doing
00:28:24.740 some research,
00:28:25.280 I thought decarbonized oil,
00:28:27.180 it's a trick
00:28:27.740 against oil and gas people.
00:28:30.240 But no,
00:28:30.600 I think it's a trick
00:28:31.320 against its own base,
00:28:32.580 which shows just how much
00:28:34.400 of a chameleon,
00:28:35.740 how much of a political survivor
00:28:37.620 perhaps Mark Carney is.
00:28:39.480 I mean,
00:28:39.740 it's not just that he was
00:28:40.820 into green schemes.
00:28:43.480 He was the head
00:28:44.460 of GFAN,
00:28:45.580 Global Financial Alliance
00:28:47.960 for Net Zero.
00:28:48.980 Like he spent his,
00:28:50.520 that was his day job.
00:28:51.800 That's what he did
00:28:52.320 most of the time,
00:28:53.800 evangelizing for big companies
00:28:55.680 to divest
00:28:56.520 from carbon-based fuels.
00:28:57.880 So for him to flip around,
00:28:59.660 I don't know if you know this,
00:29:01.020 Mark,
00:29:01.280 but the carbon tax
00:29:02.500 was shaping up
00:29:03.120 to be a really big
00:29:03.980 campaign issue
00:29:04.880 as recently as six months ago.
00:29:07.280 But then Mark Carney
00:29:08.380 simply said,
00:29:09.400 guess what?
00:29:09.920 I'm going to abolish it.
00:29:10.880 Now he didn't abolish it.
00:29:12.140 He just resumed the rate.
00:29:13.140 He put it on hold
00:29:14.000 as far as I know.
00:29:14.740 He can always bring it back
00:29:15.760 and that's dangerous,
00:29:16.520 of course.
00:29:16.820 But still,
00:29:17.640 for him,
00:29:19.540 which that was
00:29:20.240 the centerpiece policy,
00:29:22.600 not just for the Liberal Party,
00:29:23.960 but for the entire
00:29:25.040 media establishment.
00:29:26.140 Here's the crazy thing,
00:29:27.100 Mark.
00:29:27.260 For election after election,
00:29:30.960 the media party
00:29:31.880 would ask
00:29:32.440 the conservative party leader,
00:29:35.100 what's your climate plan?
00:29:37.180 What's your plan for net zero?
00:29:38.800 What's your plan
00:29:39.460 for the Paris Accords?
00:29:40.880 Are you,
00:29:41.500 do you take this seriously
00:29:42.700 or do you want us all
00:29:43.460 to burn?
00:29:45.320 And it was such
00:29:46.840 an emotional issue for them.
00:29:48.740 But as soon as Mark Carney
00:29:50.260 signaled
00:29:51.140 that scrapping
00:29:53.280 the carbon tax was okay,
00:29:55.140 there was no one saying,
00:29:56.900 hey,
00:29:57.120 you're a hypocrite
00:29:57.840 or were you wrong
00:29:59.520 or have you re-thunk it?
00:30:01.160 Everyone knew what it was.
00:30:03.080 It was just,
00:30:03.620 oh,
00:30:03.700 we just got to trick the voters.
00:30:05.340 Just go along with this
00:30:06.480 and let's all pretend
00:30:08.120 that we didn't for decades
00:30:09.380 say this was
00:30:10.040 an essential moral test
00:30:12.740 that everyone must pass.
00:30:14.320 And that's why I think
00:30:16.040 you might be right
00:30:16.800 when we might start
00:30:18.820 seeing liberals
00:30:20.140 talking about decarbonized oil
00:30:21.960 just because the boss says so
00:30:23.620 and they're loyal to the boss.
00:30:25.440 That's exactly the way it works.
00:30:27.280 And you're absolutely,
00:30:28.280 in the United States,
00:30:29.440 you know,
00:30:29.660 we could never have had
00:30:30.580 the 1970,
00:30:32.060 was it 1973,
00:30:33.160 Nixon's trip to China.
00:30:34.280 That could never have been done
00:30:35.200 by a Democrat.
00:30:36.160 Right.
00:30:36.300 There are certain people
00:30:36.960 who could only get away
00:30:38.020 with certain things.
00:30:38.700 And I just can't emphasize enough,
00:30:40.940 Mark Carney
00:30:41.500 is a mastermind strategist.
00:30:44.440 He's extremely competent.
00:30:46.420 So he knows
00:30:47.640 how to get a governing
00:30:48.540 coalition together.
00:30:49.840 You're going to win some
00:30:50.800 and lose some
00:30:51.440 on this battle in Canada.
00:30:52.540 You're going to win on this one
00:30:53.520 because I think he knows
00:30:54.240 you need more domestic energy.
00:30:56.180 Wouldn't that be strange karma
00:30:58.520 that the guy
00:30:59.460 who spent decades attacking oil
00:31:01.600 might be the guy
00:31:02.880 to get the pipelines built?
00:31:03.980 Now, I'm a skeptic.
00:31:05.440 I am a 90% skeptic, Mark.
00:31:07.520 Well, it's just like
00:31:09.060 Richard Nixon spent decades
00:31:10.420 as the anti-communist
00:31:11.500 making the normalization
00:31:12.840 with communism.
00:31:13.460 So what the sad part is
00:31:15.160 is that your entire government
00:31:16.300 is still going along
00:31:17.420 with the climate scam.
00:31:18.580 Yeah.
00:31:18.900 And that same part,
00:31:19.740 you know,
00:31:19.940 you're less than
00:31:21.240 one and a half percent
00:31:22.320 of Canada
00:31:23.400 is of the global emissions
00:31:25.960 is Canada responsible for.
00:31:27.420 Less than one and a half percent.
00:31:29.120 So anything you guys do
00:31:30.320 and you still have these goals
00:31:31.800 of 45% reduction
00:31:33.240 by 2030 or 2035 in Canada,
00:31:36.800 it'd be nice to have politicians
00:31:38.740 on both sides of the aisle
00:31:39.820 in Canada
00:31:40.280 just completely make fun of that.
00:31:43.140 At least in the United States,
00:31:44.120 we do have Donald Trump
00:31:44.980 and they're using words
00:31:46.320 like cult, religion, scam
00:31:49.080 when they talk about it.
00:31:50.420 And I think,
00:31:50.820 and that's got to spread.
00:31:51.680 It is spreading.
00:31:52.400 Yeah.
00:31:52.560 German elections recently,
00:31:54.000 the skeptic essentially won.
00:31:55.800 Argentina pulled out
00:31:57.800 of the UN climate summit
00:31:59.360 when they talked to Donald Trump.
00:32:00.780 France didn't send
00:32:01.420 their delegation
00:32:02.100 all throughout the EU.
00:32:03.040 So I just feel bad for Canada.
00:32:05.380 But I think even though
00:32:06.980 the evil one won,
00:32:08.780 let's put it that way,
00:32:09.600 Mark Carney,
00:32:10.740 the WEF,
00:32:11.680 I don't want to say protege again.
00:32:13.200 He's one of the headmasters.
00:32:15.860 Even though he won,
00:32:17.140 I think he's going to be forced
00:32:18.500 to do things
00:32:19.420 that'll be good for Canada
00:32:21.000 and that'll make
00:32:21.760 the conservatives in Canada smile
00:32:23.600 because he's just absolutely
00:32:24.680 going to be forced to.
00:32:25.680 And we might laugh
00:32:26.660 at the way he goes about it,
00:32:27.700 like decarbonized oil.
00:32:29.120 Wow.
00:32:29.740 Hey, let me throw
00:32:30.300 one more thing at you.
00:32:31.160 I follow UK politics.
00:32:33.320 I'm just really interested in it
00:32:34.720 because we're,
00:32:35.640 we have a toe in the,
00:32:37.600 Canada is a little bit American
00:32:38.880 and a little bit British,
00:32:40.000 I think.
00:32:40.460 We're probably two-thirds American
00:32:41.660 and one-third British.
00:32:42.560 I love going over there
00:32:43.480 to see what's happening
00:32:44.380 because I think it's a premonition
00:32:45.720 of things that could come
00:32:46.620 here to North America.
00:32:47.800 And their insurgent party
00:32:50.320 called Reform UK,
00:32:51.880 led by Nigel Farage,
00:32:53.080 who used to be the head of UKIP,
00:32:54.620 he has come right out
00:32:56.720 against net zero,
00:32:58.400 which is something
00:32:59.140 that both the labor government
00:33:00.700 and the predecessor conservatives.
00:33:03.080 I don't know why Boris Johnson,
00:33:04.440 the so-called conservative,
00:33:05.440 was so obsessed with net zero
00:33:06.900 and same with Rishi Sunak.
00:33:08.920 But Nigel Farage,
00:33:09.980 who if there was an election
00:33:10.740 held today,
00:33:11.360 he would be PM.
00:33:13.480 He is as dismissive
00:33:15.460 of net zero as you are, Mark.
00:33:17.380 What do you make of that?
00:33:19.100 Yeah, it's huge news.
00:33:20.860 And this is, again,
00:33:21.560 happening in different parts.
00:33:22.780 I think a lot of it was led
00:33:23.900 with the farmers' rebellion
00:33:25.420 and the rise of the farmers
00:33:27.460 against net zero
00:33:28.400 in the Netherlands
00:33:29.040 and throughout the EU,
00:33:30.320 throwing the manure
00:33:31.000 at the EU headquarters
00:33:32.640 in Brussels.
00:33:33.700 And we're seeing that
00:33:34.800 across the board.
00:33:35.880 You know, they have these
00:33:36.500 meetings from Poland to Hungary,
00:33:38.340 the former Czech Republic.
00:33:39.820 All of these countries
00:33:40.880 are now getting bolder and bolder.
00:33:42.600 But you're right,
00:33:43.040 it's a huge city change
00:33:44.500 in England.
00:33:45.280 They've needed this for decades.
00:33:46.420 Remember, Boris Johnson's
00:33:47.600 transport minister
00:33:48.820 actually said that,
00:33:50.200 you know,
00:33:50.440 owning a car
00:33:51.160 was outdated
00:33:51.840 20th century thinking.
00:33:53.380 Yeah.
00:33:53.480 They were trying to end that.
00:33:55.340 Boris Johnson,
00:33:56.520 as the UK prime minister,
00:33:58.420 wanted to actually bear,
00:34:00.060 I guess,
00:34:00.720 dynamite or cement
00:34:01.740 over the fracking wells
00:34:03.200 as a homage
00:34:04.680 to how serious
00:34:05.580 they were
00:34:06.280 to the net zero cult.
00:34:08.440 And Richie Sunak
00:34:09.320 was a joke as well.
00:34:10.760 So, you know,
00:34:11.560 this hopefully
00:34:12.280 will be a sea change.
00:34:13.300 You now have
00:34:13.980 a legitimate party,
00:34:15.120 when I say legitimate,
00:34:16.320 someone who's actually
00:34:17.280 standing up
00:34:18.800 and not paying lip service
00:34:20.320 to the agenda
00:34:21.160 of the, you know,
00:34:22.040 the global,
00:34:22.660 of the World Economic Forum
00:34:24.440 of the United Nations.
00:34:25.660 And Nigel Farage
00:34:26.580 is set, hopefully,
00:34:27.800 to be the future
00:34:28.440 prime minister.
00:34:29.120 We even see places
00:34:29.860 like France
00:34:30.500 where Macron's in trouble.
00:34:31.660 I call it the Trump effect.
00:34:33.240 Once you stand up
00:34:34.460 and start telling it
00:34:35.820 like it is
00:34:36.440 and the other politicians
00:34:37.860 see the response
00:34:39.740 of the public
00:34:40.480 and the world,
00:34:41.560 then they get the courage
00:34:42.520 to do it as well.
00:34:43.620 You know,
00:34:43.840 it took a long time
00:34:44.900 for us all to oppose
00:34:45.900 the COVID lockdowns
00:34:47.280 and the mandates.
00:34:48.420 But once we did,
00:34:49.280 that was where
00:34:49.820 a lot of this
00:34:50.580 has borne out of
00:34:51.760 that it's just sort of
00:34:53.200 you become red-pilled.
00:34:54.280 And I think England
00:34:55.480 has become,
00:34:56.020 at least the Reform Party
00:34:57.680 is red-pilling
00:34:58.740 the conservatives
00:35:00.120 in England.
00:35:00.880 And I think the same thing
00:35:01.860 is happening
00:35:02.220 throughout Europe.
00:35:02.960 And we saw it in Argentina
00:35:03.860 and we're seeing it
00:35:04.880 in other countries as well.
00:35:08.160 But the United States
00:35:08.880 is where we're seeing it
00:35:09.680 at ground zero.
00:35:10.460 It's amazing
00:35:11.020 what's happening.
00:35:12.520 Even like,
00:35:12.960 this is an example.
00:35:14.260 Donald Trump has a war
00:35:15.420 against the EV mandates.
00:35:17.040 The new polling out
00:35:18.100 from the Automobile Association
00:35:19.720 shows that the desire
00:35:21.960 in any public interest
00:35:23.460 in buying an EV
00:35:24.240 has dropped to record lows.
00:35:25.800 They haven't even measured it
00:35:26.760 down almost a single digit.
00:35:28.560 That's how what happens
00:35:29.780 when you have a government
00:35:30.660 that's not just,
00:35:31.680 you know,
00:35:32.240 forcing you to buy something
00:35:33.540 and banning the competition.
00:35:35.200 It's amazing things to watch.
00:35:37.060 It just takes the political courage
00:35:38.820 to tell it like it is.
00:35:40.240 And if nothing else,
00:35:41.420 Donald Trump will be remembered
00:35:42.400 for that legacy historically.
00:35:43.820 And I think Godown
00:35:45.200 is one of the greatest presidents
00:35:46.260 just for that reason.
00:35:47.440 He's a narrative buster.
00:35:49.460 And that is one
00:35:50.040 of the most important
00:35:50.920 bully pulpit functions
00:35:52.320 of any leader,
00:35:53.320 prime minister,
00:35:54.020 president,
00:35:55.020 or head of a nation.
00:35:57.260 Yeah.
00:35:57.600 Wow.
00:35:58.040 Very interesting.
00:35:59.080 Mark, great to catch up with you.
00:36:00.280 I think you've changed my mind
00:36:01.520 on this decarbonized oil.
00:36:04.440 It's, you know,
00:36:04.860 it's like de-alcoholized beer,
00:36:06.940 I think.
00:36:08.300 It's the old church indulgence.
00:36:10.080 You know,
00:36:10.160 you can do the sin,
00:36:11.200 but if you do the indulgence,
00:36:12.740 the sin is,
00:36:13.520 now it's a guilt-free sin
00:36:14.700 or whatever you want to call it.
00:36:16.020 Sin-free sin.
00:36:17.800 All right.
00:36:18.260 You take care, my friend.
00:36:19.160 Thanks for everything.
00:36:19.720 Thank you, Ezra.
00:36:20.460 I appreciate it.
00:36:20.980 There it is.
00:36:21.420 He's the boss of climatedepot.com.
00:36:23.580 Stay with us.
00:36:24.460 More ahead.
00:36:36.900 Well, it's good to be back
00:36:37.960 in our headquarters
00:36:39.280 here in Toronto.
00:36:39.940 I was in Regina, Saskatchewan
00:36:41.660 the other day.
00:36:42.780 Very interesting.
00:36:44.220 Saskatchewan, wonderful place,
00:36:45.520 both the friendliest people.
00:36:46.620 There's still a high-trust society
00:36:48.340 in the main,
00:36:48.960 but even that place is changing.
00:36:51.100 500 people came out
00:36:52.540 to a town hall
00:36:53.360 to talk about independence.
00:36:54.960 That's quite something to me.
00:36:57.660 And I said to them,
00:36:58.580 look, Alberta is going to go first.
00:36:59.980 It is a fact.
00:37:01.140 Alberta will have a referendum
00:37:03.200 on sovereignty next year.
00:37:05.560 And Saskatchewan is right there.
00:37:07.160 And Saskatchewan and Alberta
00:37:08.100 are so closely aligned.
00:37:09.240 You know, they were twins.
00:37:10.560 They were both admitted
00:37:11.640 to confederation on the same day,
00:37:13.780 September 1st, 1905.
00:37:16.100 They were actually supposed to join
00:37:17.480 as one big province
00:37:18.380 called Buffalo.
00:37:19.600 So it's like they're twins.
00:37:23.940 And I think they're going to have
00:37:25.020 a front row seat to that referendum.
00:37:26.440 The whole country, by the way,
00:37:27.760 I'm sure will be riveted by it.
00:37:29.880 But if Alberta does go,
00:37:33.100 how long is it?
00:37:33.840 No longer till Saskatchewan joins them.
00:37:36.060 Or if Alberta uses the referendum
00:37:39.200 as a kind of or else
00:37:40.320 when talking to Mark Carney,
00:37:42.400 maybe that's something
00:37:43.920 Saskatchewan might do too.
00:37:45.520 I don't know.
00:37:46.120 It would be tough to look at Alberta
00:37:48.080 having that democratic right
00:37:49.700 and not give it to Saskatchewan people too.
00:37:52.680 Very interesting.
00:37:53.380 I enjoyed my brief visit to Regina.
00:37:56.080 And by the way,
00:37:56.680 if you're interested
00:37:57.400 in these discussions,
00:37:58.280 we're having an amazing debate
00:38:00.540 in Red Deer on June 14th.
00:38:03.340 And you're invited.
00:38:04.080 We're going to have
00:38:04.380 a whole day long thing.
00:38:05.920 And I know this is probably
00:38:07.400 not of such interest
00:38:08.940 to people in Eastern Canada.
00:38:10.280 But if you're in Alberta
00:38:11.400 or even Saskatchewan, BC,
00:38:13.260 come on by in Red Deer.
00:38:14.840 You can find out more info
00:38:15.940 at donegettingscrewed.com.
00:38:18.860 And there's a keynote debate,
00:38:20.940 the whole day long activities,
00:38:22.700 but the keynote debate
00:38:23.960 is between Keith Wilson,
00:38:26.000 the lawyer for the trucker convoy,
00:38:28.280 who is a pro-sovereignist.
00:38:31.220 And David Legg,
00:38:32.460 former senior advisor
00:38:33.640 to the government of Alberta,
00:38:34.780 who's saying,
00:38:35.360 no, no, no,
00:38:35.720 let's fix Canada from within.
00:38:37.520 That's going to be
00:38:38.060 an amazing debate.
00:38:38.920 That's Saturday, June 14th.
00:38:40.740 And if you're in Alberta,
00:38:42.840 I hope to see you there.
00:38:44.040 Tickets are selling fast.
00:38:45.440 We've got so many great people signed up.
00:38:48.400 We're going to have a media panel
00:38:49.500 with people from Juno News
00:38:51.360 and Western Standard
00:38:52.500 and Rebel News.
00:38:53.340 So all your favorite
00:38:54.420 alternative journalists will be there.
00:38:56.040 We'll have some
00:38:56.700 different political parties
00:38:57.880 some of whom want to separate,
00:39:00.020 some of whom don't.
00:39:02.820 It's going to be a great day.
00:39:04.200 It's sort of like going to be
00:39:04.920 one of our Rebel News live events.
00:39:06.840 Anyhow, I'm sort of excited about it.
00:39:08.880 And I have a couple of surprise stories
00:39:13.100 that we're going to show you
00:39:14.660 over the weekend.
00:39:15.600 And I'm not going to give them away
00:39:16.920 until we're actually on the scene.
00:39:19.340 But lots cooking here at Rebel News.
00:39:20.760 I hope you're enjoying
00:39:21.540 the work of our many journalists.
00:39:23.400 Until tomorrow,
00:39:24.860 on behalf of all of us here
00:39:26.020 at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:39:27.420 to you at home,
00:39:28.000 good night.
00:39:29.080 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:39:30.480 And keep fighting for you.
00:39:32.800 Go and shape.
00:39:33.680 Go and shape.
00:39:35.060 Go and shape.
00:39:35.260 Go and shape.
00:39:36.560 Go and shape.
00:39:37.020 We'll be right back.