Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canadian government pays academics to spy on Rebel News and other conservative outlets

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I can't believe it, but it's a government study, so it must be true. 0.58

00:00:04.420 Rebel News is the fifth busiest or fifth most engaged news website in Canada. Well,

00:00:11.000 the government says it. It must be true. I'll show you the report. That's ahead. But first,

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00:00:18.660 this podcast. I encourage you to get it because there's lots of things to see,

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00:00:26.000 but boy, it adds up for us. That's how we keep the lights on here because we don't take any money

00:00:30.540 from Trudeau, and it shows. All right, here's today's show. Tonight, the Canadian government

00:00:51.880 pays academics to, you know, spy on Rebel News and other conservative news outlets.

00:00:57.360 I'll give you the details. It's June 12th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:00.880 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:07.100 You know, the government spies on us all the time. Sometimes they acknowledge that they're doing

00:01:21.220 it. Sometimes they sort of keep it in the gray areas. Remember during the lockdowns when they

00:01:26.000 basically compelled the cell phone companies to give the government data on where their users were

00:01:32.340 to track us using GPS. We know, of course, that the government regularly pressures social media

00:01:38.720 companies to throttle or suspend accounts they don't like. I don't think anything I'm saying here

00:01:43.960 is controversial that it's happening. It's a controversial thing they're doing, but I don't

00:01:49.060 think anyone disputes that it's happening. Of course, they can outright spy on you and your

00:01:54.380 personal matters. That's what the ArriveCan app was, a giant piece of spyware, malware, as they say.

00:02:00.960 You had to tell the government or anyone in a uniform really at an airport what your personal

00:02:06.840 health details were. What an outrage. But they've actually codified and institutionalized this spying 0.97

00:02:13.460 when it comes to conservative or populist media. Now, they don't call it spying, and I suppose in

00:02:19.680 some ways it could be research, but they fund so-called misinformation and disinformation experts

00:02:26.660 to spy on the websites they don't like, including Rebel News. I don't know what a misinformation or

00:02:33.000 disinformation expert is. That's basically another way of saying figuring out what's true or not.

00:02:38.660 I think all of us go through life trying to figure out what's true, and sometimes we're wrong

00:02:44.400 accidentally, and sometimes some people lie on purpose. I've never heard a government-funded

00:02:51.140 disinformation or misinformation expert ever fact-check a government source, though, and that

00:02:57.840 tells you everything you need to know. The fact-checkers only check facts one way, and much of the time

00:03:04.440 when they say they're checking facts, they're actually checking opinions. Nonetheless, I want to

00:03:09.040 bring to your attention a study that I saw today. It was actually highlighted by one of my favorite

00:03:14.580 independent news sources called Black Locks. It's a study published by the Canadian Digital Media

00:03:22.080 Research Network. Doesn't that sound fancy and authoritative, as if that's even a thing? Well,

00:03:28.440 they have something they publish called a Situation Report. Canadian Information Ecosystem Situation Report.

00:03:36.160 Technical briefing on the state of the information ecosystem. And you can see on the screen

00:03:41.180 there may report. Of course, all of that is BS. They have the dramatic language situation report,

00:03:47.260 as if it's like a military briefing, as if there's some true scholarship underneath it. They do that,

00:03:53.020 I think, because that's how they get funding. They know the buzzwords to say when they write to

00:03:57.640 bureaucrats looking for huge grants. And just as five, ten years ago, you could get any money you wanted

00:04:04.500 just by parenting a global warming or climate change line. And now you can do so when you talk about

00:04:10.500 transgenderism or Islamophobia. You'll just back up the dump truck and fill up with taxpayer cash.

00:04:16.620 The new hot area of scholarship is misinformation and disinformation. And so universities, whose main

00:04:24.360 job, as you can tell, is raising funds. That's why they bring in so many foreign students. They charge 1.00

00:04:29.280 them a premium and make a profit. It's not about scholarship. University presidents that are always

00:04:34.200 hunting for cash have realized that if they set up these disinformation observatories, they'll get

00:04:40.640 cash, especially if they study Trudeau's enemies. Which brings me to the latest report of the Situation

00:04:47.440 Report. Let me point out right on the front page, key findings. Ecosystem influence is highly concentrated

00:04:54.900 in a number of voices. Do you think that's true? Do you think that online, where everyone has a

00:05:00.620 Facebook account, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, whatever you're on, do you really think

00:05:06.280 the voices are more concentrated now than ever? Or do you actually think, as I do, that opinions are

00:05:13.020 more diffuse than ever? In the past, we only had CTV, Global, and CBC, and we all had to tune in at the

00:05:20.060 same time. We couldn't seek our own news. I think there's more news choices now than ever in history.

00:05:25.720 There's just, it's just that so many of those that are out there don't happen to toe the line of the

00:05:31.220 government. I'll keep reading. The Canadian information ecosystem, could you imagine using

00:05:36.240 that language with a straight face? That's how you get grants, folks. Remains highly unequal. Is that

00:05:43.420 what you say? Unequal? Are you talking about the CBC getting all the money? No, they're talking about

00:05:47.380 people like you and me. With a small number of accounts receiving a super majority of engagement.

00:05:52.920 Is that really true, that a handful of accounts get more engagement than the rest of people combined?

00:05:59.160 That's what super majority means. Or again, are they just using these buzzwords to get grants?

00:06:04.300 This inequality remains even more extreme for media outlets, with the top five media organizations,

00:06:10.480 CTV, Global News, CBC, The Postmillennial, and Rebel News, receiving approximately 65% of all news

00:06:17.480 engagement across social media platforms. Is that true? I mean, I like to boast about Rebel News. It's

00:06:24.440 sort of my job. But are we really that big? I mean, I'd like to think we are. But come on,

00:06:30.180 most Canadians actually haven't even heard of us. I don't know if you remember, we took a poll a couple

00:06:35.780 years ago. Now, half of Canadians had heard of us. But to say that we're one of the top five dominant

00:06:40.740 sources, I want to believe it. But these folks have a purpose. A purpose is to scare the government

00:06:46.280 into A, passing censorship laws, and B, most importantly, giving them more money. I'll continue.

00:06:52.800 They say misinformation producing websites receives significant attention. While overall volume of

00:06:59.400 misinformation content in the ecosystem is low, there is high engagement with content linking to known

00:07:04.640 misinformation producing websites. Hey, does it count as misinformation when, for example, the CBC state

00:07:11.060 broadcaster talks at length about how vaccines are 100% safe? They used to say that. Safe and effective.

00:07:19.620 They used to say that, too. Is that ever considered misinformation? Or is only things that criticize the

00:07:26.240 government considered misinformation? I want to flip ahead to the part where they focus on Rebel News,

00:07:31.680 because, of course, in some ways I'm flattered that someone is earning millions of dollars to

00:07:37.040 invest, to watch Rebel News for a living. Wouldn't that be nice? They talk about their findings as if

00:07:43.520 this was some sort of investigation. Engagement with Canadian news outlets is more unequal than the

00:07:50.920 overall ecosystem with a Gini coefficient of 0.955. That's a mathematical statistics formula. We find the top

00:07:58.280 five Canadian outlets that attract the most engagement are CTV, Global News, CBC, the Post Millennial,

00:08:03.640 and Rebel News. Well, of course, I'm flattered, but I don't quite believe it. And one of the reasons I

00:08:09.080 don't believe it is because they have the Post Millennial on there. Now, I like the Post Millennial

00:08:12.540 just fine. Some of them are my friends for while I was a subscriber. But about a year or two ago,

00:08:17.520 they were bought by a U.S. website called Human Events. And they have maybe one full-time Canadian

00:08:23.760 reporter left, but the vast majority of their work is American. And they're very good at it,

00:08:28.600 by the way. I read their stuff every day. But to put that in a list of Canadian websites shows that

00:08:35.260 these folks are working on some outdated enemies list. The Post Millennial was founded in Canada,

00:08:40.660 for sure. And they were an ardent critic of Trudeau, for sure. But that really hasn't been the case

00:08:46.000 for years. I think their office is in the States now. It shows that these academics don't really care

00:08:52.840 about getting out of their office and doing investigations. They just want to pander to

00:08:57.960 the biases of the grant givers. Trudeau. I'll keep reading. Collectively, they received 64.9% of all

00:09:05.880 engagement with news content. Do you believe it? Do you believe that those five news sites I've just

00:09:11.940 listed to you have the majority of all news interactions in the country? I'm sorry, I just

00:09:17.060 don't believe it. I think they're lying. I think they're engaged in misinformation.

00:09:24.580 Local news outlets received just 24.6% of all engagement with news content. Now, why do you

00:09:29.880 think they might lie? Can you sort of pick it up there? Oh, five, you know, these five companies

00:09:34.900 dominate and local news coverage isn't followed. Can you see where they're going with this? I can.

00:09:39.940 This is to justify giving grants to local media. That's what this is all about. But look at that

00:09:46.060 chart there, just for one last moment. Top five Canadian news outlets. What are the top five

00:09:51.740 Canadian news outlets? What is their share of total engagement? You can see CTV has 25.1%.

00:09:58.080 Global News has 11.8%. CBC has 11.2%, which is astonishing, given that they get, what, $1.5 billion

00:10:07.660 a year. You would think they were bigger than all else combined. 10% for the post-millennial.

00:10:12.280 And there we are, Rebel News at 6.7%. Now, again, I'm a skeptic. But just for a moment,

00:10:21.120 put away your disbelief. I mean, never trust these experts. But just for a moment, accept it on face

00:10:26.340 value. Rebel News right now has, I think, 41 staff, including me. 41. The CBC has thousands.

00:10:36.460 The CBC budget from government money alone is $1.5 billion. It's more than 100 times bigger than

00:10:45.300 Rebel News. They get 100 times more money. And they have more than 100 times more staff. They've

00:10:52.060 got about 200 times as much staff. And we're 60% as large as them in terms of engagement.

00:10:58.480 If that's true, and again, I don't believe a thing these guys say, if that's true, imagine how

00:11:05.760 awful the government propaganda has to be that people would come to us in such numbers and avoid

00:11:12.400 them in such numbers. It's maybe not astonishing that we're popular, but it's astonishing, given

00:11:17.660 how much money there is behind the CBC, how unpopular they are. They're still forced into

00:11:23.720 every cable package in Canada. You cannot get a cable package in Canada without being forced to

00:11:29.360 subscribe to and pay for the CBC. What I'm getting from this study is no one believes them. No one

00:11:37.260 even pays attention to them. People are thirsty for alternative points of view. And the government

00:11:42.640 and any greedy professor looking for a handout is only too happy to smear independent news as a

00:11:50.540 threat. Stay with us for more.

00:11:53.720 By some measures, the Hamas terrorist attack on southern Israel on October 7th was a failure.

00:12:11.460 They didn't hold any land. All the terrorists who went into Israel were killed, at least the ones who

00:12:17.700 didn't retweet quickly back into Gaza. Gaza itself has been flattened, utterly destroyed. Hamas has

00:12:26.980 lost many of its commanders. And yet there's a jubilation from Hamas and its supporters around the 0.98

00:12:34.920 world, especially in the West. Why would that be? It's not enough simply to point to the slaughter of

00:12:43.700 over 1,200 Jews on the day of and 200 hostages later. I think that it was a starter pistol. It was a 0.78

00:12:52.980 moment where Muslim extremists around the world thought, we can do it. We can actually win this battle,

00:13:02.260 even though by every military measure, it was a loss. There's a psychological win. I saw some people use the

00:13:10.160 phrase that day that Gaza broke out of jail. There was a feeling of victory in the air that the

00:13:18.160 Palestinians have not had in decades. Contrary-wise, when Israel liberated four hostages just a few days

00:13:26.860 ago, that was much more than a, you know, rescuing of four Jews to the Hamas side. You could tell it

00:13:34.160 deflated them because they saw that their likelihood of a total victory was not as assured as they

00:13:39.980 convinced itself it might be. And so I'm very interested in a new book that talks about the

00:13:46.540 psychology of this. The book is by our friend Dr. Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum. It's called

00:13:53.360 Israel Victory, How Zionists Win Acceptance and Palestinians Get Liberated. It's for sale now on

00:14:02.600 Amazon. Dr. Pipes joins us now. Well, great to see you again. Help me understand the point of your

00:14:09.740 book. Is it a psychological point? Is it the psychology of winning and losing?

00:14:17.500 Well, I'm a historian, so there's a good bit of history in it. The first half explains how we got

00:14:25.420 into this mess, and the second half suggests a way to get out of it. And the first half, the mess,

00:14:32.500 how we got into it, goes back to the 1880s and argues that on the two sides, Palestinian and Israel,

00:14:40.180 mind you, Palestinian, not Arab state, Palestinian, what one finds 140 years, 140 years of eccentric,

00:14:48.640 unique, counterproductive, and bizarre mentality is. On the Palestinian side, you have a mentality of 1.00

00:14:56.820 rejectionism. No, no, no. Note everything Jewish, Israeli, Zionist. No. This made sense in the 1880s when 0.64

00:15:05.140 the Palestinians were a very large number compared to the Zionists. It is absurd at present when the 0.91

00:15:13.120 roles are reversed. And Israel has the F-35s, and the high rises, and the Palestinians have neither. 1.00

00:15:18.380 And yet, it remains in place, essentially unchanged through all this time. On the Israeli side, in

00:15:25.720 contrast, you have an approach of conciliation, which again made sense in the 1880s. Hey, Palestinians, 1.00

00:15:34.720 we will help you get richer. You will be better off by cooperating with us. Accept us. It's win-win.

00:15:42.520 We'll all be better off. This made sense in the 1880s when the Zionists were weak and few. It does 1.00

00:15:48.640 not make sense today when they are strong. And yet, these two strange, and I say unique, I don't see

00:15:55.460 them anywhere else in the world, mentalities continue. What to do about it? Well, I think it's up to the

00:16:02.120 Israelis to recognize the error of their ways and to help the Palestinians find a way to end 1.00

00:16:12.460 rejectionism. It's up to the Israelis to break rejectionism. It's up to the Israelis to win by

00:16:19.620 inflicting a sense of defeat upon the Palestinians.

00:16:22.660 You know, I think it was Kissinger who said the Palestinians never miss an opportunity

00:16:28.280 to miss an opportunity. And you can understand if that was him or others have used that phrase,

00:16:33.120 too. I mean, when Bill Clinton...

00:16:34.620 Abba Eben.

00:16:35.520 Abba Eben. Thank you. The Israeli diplomat and political leader.

00:16:42.500 When Bill Clinton was the president, there was no more frequent guest to the White House

00:16:46.980 than Yasser Arafat. And Clinton went to great lengths to twist the arm of Israel to give

00:16:53.580 not just everything the Palestinians demanded, but plus there were certain, you know, square miles here

00:17:00.640 and there that Israel would reserve, but Palestinians were given more elsewhere in recompense. And at the

00:17:07.820 last minute, Arafat said, there's no way I can accept this win because I'll be killed for not rejecting

00:17:13.720 anything and everything. The whole thing was a dance. And Bill Clinton was appalled by that. He was,

00:17:19.760 even for a president, he was naive about that. And I think that even though Gaza is rubble,

00:17:32.060 they still believe that from that they can get success. And by the way, maybe they're not wrong.

00:17:36.640 Ireland, Spain, Norway have all said they recognize Palestine as a state.

00:17:44.280 At the United Nations, even Canada has turned against Israel.

00:17:48.520 Maybe the Palestinians aren't wrong. Maybe they should keep rejecting things forever. 1.00

00:17:52.920 I mean, how would you tell a Palestinian not to keep rejecting things forever if they're getting things 0.98

00:17:58.680 from it? Well, I was hoping you would ask. My policy recommendation is twofold. First, I want the

00:18:12.060 Israelis, with our support, to destroy Hamas, which it's trying to do, and to eliminate the 0.82

00:18:21.040 Palestinian Authority. Hamas has to be fought and defeated violently. The Palestinian Authority can be

00:18:27.680 made to disappear simply by stopping to fund it. It would be quite simple. The Israelis, however, 1.00

00:18:33.220 are not in the mood to do that, but I think they should. And secondly, here's the key point,

00:18:37.580 and I think the original point. I believe there is, at this point, after all these decades,

00:18:45.140 a substantial body of West Bankers and Gazans who've had enough. But the problem is the Israelis 1.00

00:18:54.140 don't focus on them. Israelis tend to assume that the Palestinians are an inherent enemy. They have 0.98

00:19:03.760 always been and will always be. They make no efforts. I draw the comparison to lions and hyenas,

00:19:09.360 permanent enemies. And I'm saying no. I think if you look closely, if you look at the intellectuals,

00:19:16.480 if you look at the religious people and others, you see that there are voices, significant voices,

00:19:23.360 Israeli Muslim citizens, the Arabs of Jerusalem, West Bankers, Gaza residents who have had enough, 1.00

00:19:33.360 especially in Gaza. They've had enough. And I do believe that the Israelis, through intelligent, 1.00

00:19:40.480 persistent, determined work, can find allies among the Palestinians. And the first place will be in 0.82

00:19:48.100 Gaza. I believe a day after Samaria should be Israel working with Gazans to create what I call a decent 0.98

00:19:56.760 Gaza. I believe that's possible. You don't need the Palestinian Authority. You don't need the Arab 1.00

00:20:01.900 States. You don't need the United Nations. You don't need Western armies. Israel, on its own,

00:20:06.640 working with the right Gazans, can set up an administration, police force, educational system,

00:20:13.440 and the like that will be decent. Now, not great. Not a place where you or I would want to live,

00:20:20.260 but a place like, say, Egypt or Jordan, where if you keep your nose clean and stay out of politics,

00:20:25.800 don't insult the rulers, you can live a perfectly fine life. That's, I believe, the aspiration Israel

00:20:35.420 should have. And it's a radical difference from what they've done in the past. They have not

00:20:42.180 tried this at all. I believe the time has come for them to try to work with the right Palestinians 1.00

00:20:47.000 against the wrong Palestinians. There are 20, 25 percent of Palestinians who are ready to work with 0.94

00:20:55.120 Well, I'm not quite as optimistic as you are. Let me put it that way. Although I note that there was

00:21:03.180 a period of years when a terrorist group called ISIS, the Islamic State, not only was ascendant,

00:21:10.700 they had territory. They could say, we have a state. We have cities. We have social services. We do

00:21:17.640 infrastructure. We, like, they were not granted political recognition like Norway, Spain, and Ireland

00:21:26.260 did, but they actually had a bit of a country. They had a sort of a border. Yeah, and the size of

00:21:31.480 Great Britain, by the way. Yeah, and, but my point is, they were an inspiration to Islamists around the 0.56

00:21:38.320 world. When I went to the Nineveh Plain in Iraq, when ISIS was on the retreat, I saw Islamic graffiti

00:21:45.980 in a Christian church that had been desecrated. That graffiti was in German, and the reason I 1.00

00:21:52.800 mention that is that Islamists from the entire world were so enthused and excited. They all went 0.96

00:21:59.860 to Raqqa. They all went to Mosul to be part of this project. They thought, it's finally here. We're on

00:22:06.240 the march, and for a few years, they could actually claim they were. Now, no one would even mention the

00:22:11.540 word ISIS, because they were defeated and ground into powder, and no one is inspired by them. I

00:22:16.700 think that would and will happen when Hamas is finally extinguished. If its total boss is killed

00:22:24.740 or captured, then I think you would see the deflation and demoralization, at least among some

00:22:30.220 quarters. Is that, is that the thinking here? And is that why Joe Biden seems to be doing everything

00:22:34.480 he can to delay Israel from extinguishing Hamas? Well, two points there. First, I think we're in 0.97

00:22:40.980 agreement. You do, by drawing the comparison with ISIS, see the possibility of a similar such process 0.97

00:22:47.440 in Gaza. Good. You don't think I'm more optimistic. You're optimistic, too. Secondly, about Joe Biden.

00:22:53.760 Joe Biden, his innate sympathy is with Israel, but as you're probably aware, there's an election coming up

00:23:01.020 for presidency of the United States in five months, and he has a wing of his party that's vociferous

00:23:07.880 and despises his will. So he's trying to find a combination that will both be true to himself

00:23:16.860 and keep him the votes of this left wing. The result is an oxymoronic policy that makes no sense,

00:23:24.680 and it's an absurdity. But I don't think he has malign intentions. I think he just

00:23:32.820 has a conflict between his own personal approach and what he perceives as the needs for his re-election.

00:23:43.220 And the result is a mishmash that is incomprehensible and ineffectual and a failure.

00:23:48.560 Let me ask you one last question, because I hear what you're saying about people in Gaza or the West Bank

00:23:54.860 just saying, we've got to move on. We have to live our lives, although there is a bit of a death cult,

00:23:59.720 certainly, in some quarters. But a lot of the decisions, I would imagine, are not being made in Gaza,

00:24:04.800 but by Iran, which is as implacable as ever. And I think that the most audacious protests in support 1.00

00:24:14.480 of Hamas are in the West or in London. These days are even in New York and Toronto. And again, 0.77

00:24:22.920 I think those are orchestrated and funded by external forces, including Iran. So let's say 0.68

00:24:29.060 you extinguish Hamas in Gaza. I don't think you're going to stop the funders, the organizers,

00:24:36.700 the trainers, the strategists on this. I think they're still going to be active. What do you say

00:24:41.440 about that? Let me just give you a pertinent example from today to make your point about the

00:24:48.420 West versus the Muslim world. As you're aware, in graduation ceremonies throughout the West, 1.00

00:24:56.080 there have been disruptions by the anti-Israel types. Well, at the NYU, New York University campus

00:25:03.860 in Abu Dhabi, the keffiyeh and other symbols were banned just today, yesterday. So in Abu Dhabi,

00:25:13.220 they're banned. In New York, they're fine. Isn't that interesting? You know, by the way,

00:25:16.620 the keffiyeh is known as the hipster swastika. Yeah, I've heard that phrase. Well, it's very

00:25:22.360 interesting. Daniel Pipes, it's great to catch up. We're talking about your new book called

00:25:26.240 Israel Victory, How Zionists Win Acceptance and Palestinians Get Liberated. We'll have a link to

00:25:33.260 that book if people want to buy it on Amazon. Listen, I sure hope you're right. There are flickers

00:25:39.780 of hope in the region. I've had the pleasure of being in the United Arab Emirates myself, and I was

00:25:44.100 blown away by the true peace between them and Israel. And I hope that can get back on track. I think 0.97

00:25:50.460 that was the greatest, one of the greatest victories that Hamas achieved is stalling the 0.88

00:25:55.920 Abraham Accords. And I sure hope that can be revived. I hope you and I can keep in touch on

00:26:00.940 this subject in the months ahead, because I don't think it's going to be gone anytime soon. There you

00:26:04.520 have it, Dr. Daniel Pipes, the boss of the Middle East Forum. Once again, his book is called Israel

00:26:08.780 Victory, How Zionists Win Acceptance and Palestinians Get Liberated. Stay with us. More ahead. 0.98

00:26:20.460 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me about my report from the St. Anne's Anglican Church.

00:26:33.280 Forrest Reel says, anything being torched other than a church would be instantly declared a hate

00:26:37.720 crime. You're so right. They wouldn't wait for the facts. What's weird here is that the media

00:26:43.000 prejudged saying, oh, there's nothing suspicious. While the investigation was underway, I literally

00:26:48.420 talked to the firemen on scene. They said, we're not done investigating. How could people say there

00:26:53.960 was nothing suspicious when they were still looking? Multipath says, churches are solid

00:26:59.640 structural buildings. Most are built in the days where a lot of effort and detail and solid materials

00:27:04.580 went into it. Unlike today, when buildings are made like matchboxes. All these years, some hundreds

00:27:09.820 of years, and all the candles lit and no fires until now. Most definitely a who rather than what?

00:27:17.280 Oh, yeah. I do not for a second believe that the cathedral at Notre Dame was an electrical

00:27:23.120 fire. Those timbers were 800 years old. That's practically petrified. You have a thousand-year-old

00:27:29.020 tree trunk. You think that's going to catch fire? You hold a lighter to that thing, you'll

00:27:33.520 burn the lighter fluid up before that. It's not going to burn. In fact, the Notre Dame Cathedral

00:27:39.480 had a full-time fire brigade stationed in the church. You'll never get me to believe that

00:27:45.460 it was not human caused. I think that for it to be published as such would have been such

00:27:50.320 a crisis in French politics that the president simply ordered the result to be faked. I'm

00:27:56.180 sorry, I believe that if that's a conspiracy theory, so be it. I think the actual conspiracy

00:28:00.320 theory is pretending that an electrical fire brought down a church with petrified timbers

00:28:06.420 that stood for 800 years and it was announced before the investigation was done. Tagus Man

00:28:13.660 says, notice the flags on the church and fire trucks. Ever wonder what country you actually

00:28:17.900 live in? You know, I didn't emphasize that in my comments, but all the trucks had a trans 1.00

00:28:24.980 flag on them. They all did. And the church had a rainbow flag on it too, by the way.

00:28:30.800 And I chatted with some of the firemen off camera, and some of them were big rebel supporters.

00:28:38.080 And I pointed out that they had a trans flag on the fire truck. I would be surprised if there's 1.00

00:28:45.040 a single trans fireman in Toronto, but they no longer have the solidarity yellow ribbon with 9-11.

00:28:52.560 You know, for the longest time, firemen in Canada had symbolic solidarity stickers with the

00:29:01.520 great number of firemen who died on 9-11. Those are gone, but the trans sticker is on there.

00:29:08.320 That's Canada in 2024. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at

00:29:13.360 Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

00:29:17.120 Keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - June 12, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canadian government pays academics to spy on Rebel News and other conservative outlets

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