Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canadian mayors join global pledge to support plant-based foods in cities

00:00:00.000 move over wef and un there's a new group of elitists that want you to alter your diet

00:00:23.380 all in the name of climate change it's wednesday july 27th 2022 i'm david menzies and this is the

00:00:33.200 ezra lavent show shame on you you censorious bug 0.87

00:00:40.680 you know folks i used to think that the mayor of a city had certain specific duties when it came to 0.54

00:00:55.940 running a municipality which is to say make sure the garbage gets picked up the drinking water is

00:01:03.120 clean the snow is removed from roads potholes are fixed in the summertime and so on this might

00:01:10.660 seem to be pretty mundane stuff but it affects residents directly in a profound way i mean if

00:01:18.560 the garbage does not get picked up the city will soon resemble a cesspool after all so i was most

00:01:26.640 curious to come across a document called c40 cities subtitled quote a global network of mayors taking

00:01:35.440 urgent action to confront the climate crisis and create a future where everyone can thrive

00:01:42.960 end quote now as an aside i'm so confused here are we currently living through a climate crisis

00:01:50.540 or a climate emergency or is that a climate disaster i mean can't the greta tunberg acolyte settle on

00:01:59.500 one consistent scare word when it's attached to the word climate how dare you but back to the c40 which

00:02:08.860 is not thankfully a type of explosive rather it is a collection of almost 100 mayors of major cities

00:02:16.400 who you know jet set to copenhagen or wherever and assemble like the mighty avengers except none of

00:02:24.800 these cats have any superpowers here's an excerpt from their pr video i wonder how much carbon was

00:02:33.440 used to produce this opus i hear people say your future is bright but after this past year i wonder if

00:02:41.920 that's still true when i see the news sometimes i'm overwhelmed what's going to happen to my family

00:02:48.320 to our planet to the animals to my friends to me make no mistake we are in the midst of the fight for

00:02:57.540 our lives for our planet our people and our shared future around the world we are grappling with an

00:03:06.380 unprecedented pandemic confronting fires on our hillsides floods in our streets and entrenched

00:03:14.660 systemic inequality a global crisis of this magnitude one that transcends borders politics and ideology

00:03:24.480 requires nothing less than bold united global action to meet the urgency of this moment mayors of the

00:03:34.700 world's greatest cities know that our communities and residents are already feeling the effects of the

00:03:40.680 climate emergency first hand they know we cannot wait this crisis out so instead they've raised their

00:03:47.840 ambition by committing to cut their city's fair share of emissions in half by 2030 and are already

00:03:54.400 taking bold steps to make this happen mayors are delivering on a shared vision for a green and just

00:04:00.600 recovery from the covet pandemic that puts equity and inclusivity at the heart of our decision making

00:04:06.840 prioritizes investing in crucial public services creating good green jobs supporting essential

00:04:14.280 workers ensuring access to healthy and sustainable food and giving public spaces back to people and

00:04:21.120 nature mayors know that cities can't do this alone which is why they are working collaboratively with

00:04:27.360 young people labor leaders heads of state businesses investors and citizens if we all work together we are not only capable of leading us out of the climate crisis we will build a world where everyone is included and everyone is safe

00:04:46.520 where we can look our kids in the eye and tell them that their future is indeed bright

00:04:54.120 the actions we take this decade starting today will determine the future of humanity and all life on our planet

00:05:04.680 together we can we must change the trajectory our planet is on join us

00:05:12.360 hmm cutting emissions in half by 2030 a in less than eight years right well as ex-ontario premier kathleen wynn would say

00:05:27.960 that's a stretch goal and that last line in the video about changing the trajectory

00:05:35.240 our planet our planet is on you know that sounds like a job for superman not a bunch of very ordinary politicians

00:05:42.920 i mean come on toronto mayor john tory is somehow going to change the planet's trajectory give me a break

00:05:52.120 i mean back in 2020 it took mayor milquetoast three weeks to clear a bunch of hobos operating under the banner of

00:06:01.160 afro-indigenous rising out of nathan phillips square and once they were booted from the grounds of city 1.00

00:06:08.600 hall they merely marched northwest to dufferin grove park and turned that parkland into a hellhole for a

00:06:16.520 good chunk of the summer too we were there for cleanup time check it out oh i'm sorry ma'am i'm just

00:06:23.800 reading your breasts what does that say exactly it says no justice no peace 0.74

00:06:28.440 no justice no peace no justice no peace no justice no peace it's not on behalf of

00:06:34.120 anybody else it's not necessarily helping the situation because this is what they're here to do

00:06:40.840 did they trigger you get out of here get out get out get out of my face get out of my face 0.99

00:06:46.360 you're always occupying every space in this yeah mayor tory can't even take care of his own backyard

00:06:57.480 but he wants to save a planet that doesn't need saving in any event under the descriptor what we do

00:07:06.840 the four-pronged agenda of these mighty mayors is set out one raising climate ambition

00:07:16.280 two influencing the global agenda three building a movement and four scaling up climate action um

00:07:29.560 call me a nitpicker if you must folks but what exactly is the difference between raising climate ambition

00:07:36.920 and scaling up climate action and what's this obsession these mayors have

00:07:44.440 with climate climate climate gee i think i'm about to have a jan brady moment here marcia marcia marcia

00:07:53.080 alas it only seems farcical until you read the nitty-gritty fine print

00:07:58.120 for example under scaling up climate action there is a notation that 30 percent of global emissions come

00:08:05.640 from food systems that one-third of food produced is wasted and that 14 cities have pledged to reinvent

00:08:15.240 their food systems by 2030 gee there's that new doomsday date again a 2030 didn't we learn anything

00:08:25.000 from the mayans who predicted the demise of the planet as of 2012 how did that go yeah the mayans could see

00:08:33.880 some 500 years into the future but didn't notice spanish conquistadors sailing into their neck of

00:08:41.080 the woods in real time but i digress the c40 people say quote the global food system is broken end quote

00:08:52.200 well we are seeing prices rise during this period of stagflation to be sure 0.97

00:08:57.080 much of that is due to idiotic policies by both the biden and trudeau administrations depending on where 0.99

00:09:05.160 you live but to call the system broken that's a stretch yet because it is allegedly broken 0.98

00:09:13.800 it therefore must be fixed even though as henry ford once said if it ain't broke don't fix it

00:09:20.440 in any event the c40 mayors are big on quote integrating food policies that reduce greenhouse

00:09:28.680 gas emissions and increase resilience end quote and then there is this little nugget quote support

00:09:36.040 an overall increase on healthy plant-based food consumption in cities by shifting away from unsustainable

00:09:46.920 unhealthy diets end quote okay folks you see where this is going don't you emissions are bad plants

00:09:54.680 are good so it's time to eradicate those flatulent and belching cows and pigs and lambs and whatnot

00:10:02.280 because those delicious critters are just so bad for the environment and the planet the c40 mayors 1.00

00:10:10.200 would rather we quote align food procurement to the planetary health diet ideally sourced from organic

00:10:20.280 agriculture end quote the planetary health diet who's responsible for this orwellian menu

00:10:28.040 is it the united nations or the world economic forum they won't say it out loud of course but a key

00:10:35.240 piece of the climate food agenda is eliminating meat production in the name of saving the planet and

00:10:44.840 indeed look what is happening in the netherlands right now the dutch government has declared war on

00:10:51.160 its own farmers by declaring war on nitrogen a key element when it comes to farming and here in canada

00:10:59.480 the justin trudo liberals are proposing a policy that will require farmers to use less fertilizer that

00:11:07.400 will mean lower crop yields less profits higher prices for you and me and more family farms going

00:11:15.640 out of business oh and it should be noted that this proposed policy wasn't concocted by agriculture canada

00:11:23.400 rather it's the handiwork of environment and climate change canada all in the name of making canada a zero

00:11:32.440 emissions nation in the future in fact farmers and agriculture industry groups they weren't even

00:11:40.360 consulted and hey what would they know about growing crops and raising livestock after all and consider this

00:11:49.000 this i don't think a single week has gone by this year without yours truly coming across yet another

00:11:58.040 glowing article pertaining to humans eating insects here's a bbc feature from july 20th it's entitled

00:12:07.640 could grasshoppers really replace beef but all you really need to know about the article appears in the

00:12:15.160 subhead quote for most people in europe and the us the idea of eating crickets and grasshoppers can seem

00:12:22.840 revolting but they are a popular snack in parts of africa and asia not only are they packed with nutrients

00:12:33.000 but they are less harmful to the climate too end quote i'm sorry but the sad truth is this bugs are eaten in

00:12:41.960 third world nations not due to desire but rather due to necessity are you trying to tell me that a

00:12:49.560 ugandan would take a mealworm sandwich over a cheeseburger if given the choice come on but with the c40 group 1.00

00:12:59.240 of 96 mayors they have clearly signed on to that nefarious agenda of building back better yet do they even

00:13:09.720 practice what they preach the next c40 world mayor summit is scheduled for this october in buenos aires

00:13:18.840 do you think for one second that mayor john torrey and the other mayors will be riding their bicycles

00:13:25.480 to argentina this fall do you think his honor is going to chomp down on crickets as opposed to a fine

00:13:33.640 argentinian steak come mealtime but that's the thing when it comes to virtue signaling you merely have

00:13:41.400 to talk the talk as opposed to walking the walk and it is outrageous to think mayors have the power

00:13:49.800 to enact concrete changes in the first place most of the things they are yapping on about

00:13:56.440 fall under the bailiwick of states and provinces and countries not municipalities me thinks these 0.98

00:14:05.240 mayors surely must take the advice of that wwe scholar duane the rock johnson you know your damn role 0.99

00:14:15.240 and shut your damn mouth you know folks what we are seeing now from the elitists who comprise the un 0.99

00:14:23.400 and the wef and now the c40 it's quite uncanny in one sense which is the resemblance to the world 1.00

00:14:32.520 depicted in the 1973 science fiction movie soylent green new york city in the year 2022

00:14:42.280 nothing runs anymore nothing works but the people are the same and the people will do anything to get

00:14:49.720 what they need this is the police what they need most is soylent green the supply of soylent green

00:14:57.640 has been exhausted return to your home

00:15:06.200 indeed soylent green is set in our current year of 2022 and the thing is it is downright uncanny how many

00:15:14.760 things this film got right despite being released a half century ago case in point assisted suicide

00:15:23.400 is not only legal in the world of soylent green it's actually encouraged and of course there's the title

00:15:29.800 of the film soylent green which refers to a synthetic food stuff now if you haven't seen the film i won't say

00:15:37.720 what soylent green is derived from that would be a huge spoiler but let's put it this way the product

00:15:46.600 of soylent green makes edible insects kind of look like filet mignon by comparison

00:15:54.200 yet in the here and now in our real world in 2022 when it comes to the war on traditional farming

00:16:01.720 and when it comes to the global elites dictating what they want us to consume sorry but i'm simply

00:16:10.200 not buying what they are selling to put another way to paraphrase the greatest political quote

00:16:18.440 ever uttered by the star of soylent green himself that being the late great charlton heston

00:16:23.960 i'll give you my hamburger when you pry it from my cold dead hands 0.87

00:16:46.920 well i'm very grateful to my dear friend and mission specialist david menzies for covering the

00:16:51.400 monologue for me and i hope you'll accept my apologies for not being able to do that part

00:16:56.360 of the show i am going to be hosting the live stream tonight co-hosting with my friend sheila gun reed

00:17:02.680 covering the united conservative party's leadership debate in the province of alberta very interesting

00:17:08.280 and as you know one of the main reasons that the premier in that province was defenestrated

00:17:14.680 was his extreme lockdowns including the imprisonment of pastor arthur pavlovsky so we'll be watching

00:17:21.400 with an eye to personal freedom tonight that's what i'm doing tonight but i am in the chair to

00:17:27.880 talk to one of the most interesting people i've met over the past two years you know i have done less

00:17:31.000 traveling in the last two years than i have done since i was a child i still am not allowed to go

00:17:36.680 into the united states but despite that i've met some of the most interesting people from different

00:17:40.920 walks of life as people from all backgrounds have done their best to fight against the civil

00:17:46.280 liberties bonfire and one of the smartest people that i've enjoyed talking with is our next guest

00:17:52.600 janine younis is a lawyer at the new civil liberties alliance and she joins us now from washington dc

00:17:58.120 janine it's great to see you again great to catch up i have a big question i want to put to you in a

00:18:02.840 minute but first let me just catch up with you because you're so busy on these things um can you give

00:18:08.600 our viewers an update on some of the civil liberties matters that you are acting for as a public interest

00:18:15.960 lawyer in the u.s we always look to the u.s for public interest law because your system and your

00:18:21.480 courts are more amenable to it than here in canada can you give us an update on some of the stuff you

00:18:26.360 were working on yes so i'm working on vaccine mandate cases still and i have a case pending in the

00:18:33.400 sixth circuit court of appeals which covers sort of the michigan ohio area um so we're appealing a

00:18:39.320 dismissal of the lawsuit there uh and have hopes that the sixth circuit will understand um more than

00:18:45.800 the district court what the constitutional problems were here another area of law i've been very involved

00:18:51.160 with is first amendment issues when it comes to government trying to censor um or government uh using

00:18:57.560 big tech to censor views that it doesn't like so for instance i think one of the most common examples of

00:19:02.600 this is twitter where you know twitter frequently will suspend people or label posts misleading that

00:19:08.120 diverge from the government's message on various matters especially when it comes to covet

00:19:12.440 um and i think there's substantial evidence that the government is involved in telling big tech what

00:19:17.160 to do and coercing it and that turns it into state action uh so far uh our lawsuit on this issue was

00:19:24.760 dismissed but we're also appealing that um also in the sixth circuit it's very interesting both of those

00:19:30.840 are very applicable to our canadian situation as well let me ask you first about the mandate the

00:19:36.120 vaccine mandate appeal that you're looking at um my first question is is there a problem in the united

00:19:41.880 states where the other side where the government would say well that matter is moot because we're

00:19:46.680 no longer enforcing that are they still enforcing vaccine mandates in in the areas you're suing and if

00:19:54.280 they're not does that stop you from getting a ruling from a higher court yeah that's a great question

00:19:59.320 so mootness is one of the big issues that lawyers have faced not just with vaccine mandates but the

00:20:03.400 covid restrictions in general so what often happens is you know you get in front of the judge and the

00:20:08.360 lockdown has ended or the mask mandate has ended but you know that the you know governor or the mayor

00:20:12.760 might bring it back in a few months um but then the other side the government argues it's moot

00:20:16.920 there's no live controversy is what that means there has to be a live case or controversy so you can um

00:20:22.040 circumvent at that by showing that the issue is or the circumstances are likely to be repeated again

00:20:29.400 but those that's a disputed matter now in our case that's not an issue because michigan still has

00:20:34.680 a vaccine mandate and now really yeah the universities are the worst on this the supposed

00:20:42.360 bastions of enlightenment you know are just forcing their uh 30 year old or 22 year old students to get

00:20:49.480 vaccines and boosters often when they've already had covid we know the vaccine doesn't stop transmission

00:20:54.120 um we know that the risk uh profile for young people is much higher isn't that interesting um

00:21:02.280 and i'm going to come back to that question a little bit later but let me first take the

00:21:05.720 second thing you mentioned which is twitter and how government contracts out or outsources censorship

00:21:11.480 to private companies and i can see how that would be an attempt to evade uh constitutional

00:21:18.840 scrutiny in canada as well our charter of rights which is not as strong as your bill of rights

00:21:24.360 only applies to government actors not to private parties so twitter and other big tech companies

00:21:31.560 when they do bad things so you don't have a lot of recourse do you have evidence that the government is

00:21:39.880 pushing is bargaining is making deals with twitter or other big tech companies to do their

00:21:45.880 bidding another point of view might be well no they're just like birds of a feather they harmonize

00:21:50.520 they get into formation no one's forcing them to it's just they're all woke uh censors instinctively

00:21:58.200 so it's not surprising that a silicon valley san francisco-based liberal firm is censoring but

00:22:04.120 there's no smoking gun showing that the white house ordered them how are you getting over that

00:22:10.120 maybe there's confidential things you don't want to disclose to me but i would i would imagine that

00:22:14.440 showing some link that the government asked for it and twitter gave it as opposed to twitter doing it

00:22:22.920 organically uh have is that an issue in these court battles yeah so our case was dismissed along

00:22:30.280 with a number of others actually uh all in the same week even though they were in different

00:22:33.480 jurisdictions and that's exactly what the judge said the judge said you know you can't show that

00:22:37.880 this was happening because of the government these companies were censoring people for misinformation

00:22:41.960 prior to covet but it's i i believe the judge got it completely wrong and i think that that will

00:22:46.520 come forth in um subsequent lawsuits for uh we have you know government officials on record biden his um

00:22:54.120 former uh press secretary jennifer saki vivek murthy the surgeon general alejandro mayorkas um the

00:23:02.280 secretary of dhs i believe all on the record making statements like big tech isn't uh you know twitter

00:23:07.640 facebook aren't doing enough to censor this um you know skepticism of the vaccines people who spread

00:23:12.760 what's called misinformation quote-unquote misinformation uh which just means that

00:23:16.680 something that differs from what the government says that's actually often acknowledged to be right

00:23:20.920 in the future like you know masks don't work very well to stop the spread or the vaccines don't stop

00:23:25.160 transmission um so you know the fact that we have these people on the record saying the companies need to do

00:23:30.200 more that means that you know they were coercing the companies to do more and they're they're

00:23:34.920 making explicit threats about regulation and other legal penalties that could be levied i mean it's

00:23:40.120 my opinion that if the founding fathers you know could have envisioned the internet and social media

00:23:45.240 they would have seen that this was a clear clear first amendment violation i mean what you're doing

00:23:49.400 is you're having the government um the government is dictating the messages what views are allowed

00:23:55.000 to be heard and what views are not um and the fact that it's using a private company to do so doesn't

00:24:00.600 really change that you know we talk a lot about that same issue in canada um i think there was one

00:24:07.880 point where they would attack people ad hominem you're racist you're transphobic you're whatever

00:24:13.320 i mean that that used to be a response including by our own prime minister by the way then it was

00:24:19.080 you're inciting an insurrection they were trying to piggyback off the january 6th event in washington dc

00:24:26.040 which of course has no relation to canada i don't think that worked very well

00:24:29.480 although they tried to call the truckers the trucker convoy in canada they tried to equate them

00:24:34.440 to although there was it was completely peaceful but i think they've settled on what you've just

00:24:38.920 mentioned there misinformation disinformation trying to swallow up entire arguments as crime

00:24:46.120 think if you if you remember the book 1984 um some some ideas you didn't debate them you just

00:24:52.680 swallow them up and say we can't even debate them because the idea is illegal and it's foreign and 1.00

00:24:58.120 it's immoral the idea itself is a crime so we're not going to engage with it i think that's what

00:25:02.920 misinformation and disinformation is it's instead of saying you have a an opposition to me you're

00:25:08.840 contrary you're a dissident we just have two different points of view you're saying your point

00:25:13.000 of view is from the root a poisoned point of view that's not even authentic you are a shill for

00:25:20.760 vladimir putin is the most common one we have today i see that really becoming an issue in canada

00:25:28.120 canada you have the department of defense funding that kind of work you have our equivalent of your

00:25:35.560 homeland security we have our public security minister i fear the disinformation that whole

00:25:41.960 shtick it's really a weaponized a harsher version of the the epithet fake news like fake news you could

00:25:48.600 laugh about but disinformation sounds scary is that being funded by i don't even want to use the word

00:25:55.000 military industrial complex but when the money's coming from the pentagon when the money's coming

00:25:59.640 from the department of homeland security maybe it is are our military and foreign affairs and cia type

00:26:05.800 organizations funding that i'm not talking about speculation like do you know if if money for this

00:26:12.600 disinformation campaign is coming from the military so that is not something that i know um well i know that

00:26:19.880 the uh dhs the department of homeland security has formed a disinformation governance board a lot of

00:26:25.160 people may have heard of and it's sort of been on hold because people were you know there was a lot of

00:26:29.560 public outcry about it it sounded very orwellian as you mentioned um but no i don't i don't have hard

00:26:35.800 evidence of what you just asked fair enough and that's the right answer if you don't have it i should

00:26:40.280 tell you that we were startled to discover that the u.s navy has funded research into us as an information

00:26:49.080 operation i was just shocked uh i mean we're canadian we're we're loyal frankly i'm very pro navy it was

00:26:58.040 really weird um so we have uh through access to information requests discovered that the u.s navy

00:27:04.520 intelligence side is funding research into rebel news as a as an information operation so you never know

00:27:12.680 um which i i find really creepy and um i would have thought that maybe they needed all their money

00:27:18.680 to buy navy ships to fight against you know the chinese aircraft carrier but i guess a little

00:27:23.400 website in canada is more dangerous here's the question i really wanted to ask you genie i mean

00:27:27.400 i'm glad for the updates on those lawsuits i wish you good luck in those appeals i'll be following it

00:27:32.840 frankly as a role model because we we do you know at a modest scale what you're doing down there we try

00:27:38.520 and do up here too i want to ask you about something i'm hearing from people who are in the battle

00:27:45.000 for example i heard this from my friend john carpe the leader of the justice center for constitutional

00:27:49.560 freedoms which is a public interest law firm in western canada and i hear this from others

00:27:54.680 justin trudeau signed a contract for 400 million doses with pfizer and there's only 38 million canadians

00:28:02.760 so that's 10 for every man woman child and baby his um health minister said the new standard for

00:28:11.080 being up to date there's no such thing as fully vaccinated anymore they're calling it up to date

00:28:16.680 and they say it means every nine months so it's a rolling constantly deteriorating standard that you

00:28:25.080 always have to meet you you theoretically would never be fully vaccinated because their phrase is up to

00:28:30.680 date now yeah and i see these things and i see that they're maintaining the um the the tracking app

00:28:41.720 that canadians and foreigners are required to fill out to come into canada i i see that they're retaining

00:28:49.160 for example the the ban on unvaccinated people coming into canada and so some of my friends and very

00:28:55.720 thoughtful and very educated people say ezra you're just in the summer reprieve but when it is fall again

00:29:03.720 and when it's flu season again and when it's not as much fun to be outside again because as if they

00:29:11.240 could tell young people to stay inside in the glorious summer in canada that there will be a return

00:29:17.240 of masking requirements and possibly even a return of vaccine requirements now that we have the new standard

00:29:25.080 quote up to date and i'm i'm just asking for the feeling in your bones i mean none of us are prophets

00:29:32.040 but you've been in this battle for for two solid years as have i in my own way i'd like to be more

00:29:38.840 hopeful than than my friends i think well geez that's a pretty dark view of the future that we're doomed to

00:29:44.520 repeat this in eternity do you think that we will head back into another round of this or do you think maybe

00:29:51.640 the u.s midterm elections is a protection against that um i think we will head back into another

00:29:57.480 round but it won't be as bad each successive one is kind of less bad than the last and what they

00:30:01.800 what's happening is they're losing public support i mean most americans are over covet there's just a

00:30:06.600 small contingent that's clinging to this and it gets smaller and smaller every day i think but you

00:30:11.480 know la for instance is uh claiming they're bringing back their mask mandate um i am hearing again from

00:30:17.480 students uh there had been a reprieve where i wasn't really hearing from people about vaccine

00:30:21.240 mandates now i'm getting emails again it's much less than it was a year ago but uh you know because

00:30:26.040 they have to have their full vaccine course by the end of august um i'm getting those emails so i do

00:30:32.120 think it's not over i don't know how long it's going to go on for i think they're going to keep losing

00:30:37.240 more and more support the longer it goes on but there's obviously just a contingent of the population that

00:30:41.960 for some reason embraces this and is accepting it so i think there will be certain democratic

00:30:46.600 strongholds where i mean it seems like it might never go away yeah i mean i i think that you could

00:30:53.640 feel a pivot when democrats i think sensed that this wasn't a winner for them in the polls anymore

00:30:59.080 that they were out of sync and the midterms are looming large in the minds i would imagine of democrats

00:31:03.960 but once that's over like that's in november i suppose literally the day after that you could see the

00:31:10.200 president who at his uh you know he's an old man who is very frail if he could power through covid

00:31:19.800 i mean i'm not sure why anyone younger would be afraid of it but let's say he gets through the

00:31:24.040 midterms in whatever shape his party is he could theoretically push the panic button again a day after

00:31:31.240 the vote and and do what he could to put things within his federal purview back in you know and a state

00:31:38.840 of emergency again i mean i'm just daydreaming i don't know the american scene so i mean it i it

00:31:44.280 depends a little bit what happens if you know the republicans sweep the midterms as i had expected that

00:31:48.920 they would before the um before dobbs overturned roe um then i don't see how that would be very smart

00:31:55.560 politics but on the other hand i think the democrats know that they're going to lose the election

00:31:59.320 and i'm a little uh surprised that some of the sort of people we know you know they're not necessarily

00:32:04.760 political actors but people like anthony fauci we know are you know supportive of the democrats

00:32:09.800 uh are are really insisting on um bringing you know on continuing these measures fauci is continuing

00:32:15.880 to push the idea of mass mandates um he said we should have locked down harder so they're not

00:32:20.280 repudiating what happened they're not really listening to what's going on with the american

00:32:24.600 public and i'm perplexed as to why biden hasn't told fauci you know this isn't this isn't the message

00:32:31.000 we want to be sending so i don't really know what's going on with those democrats i don't know

00:32:34.760 if they're living in an echo chamber and they don't understand that most of america has has moved on

00:32:39.000 but hopefully they'll get the rude awakening they deserve in november yeah i want to ask you one

00:32:43.240 last question it's a personal question i follow you on twitter that's how i've discovered your work

00:32:48.120 and i and um and you're sometimes personal you you remark sometimes on how the lockdowns and the

00:32:56.280 psychological response people have to the virus itself has called rupt has caused ruptures in

00:33:01.960 in friendships and even amongst families and i think everyone has detected that i mean i do too

00:33:09.160 and um i won and i think that that has been a devastation to our society it's pitted people

00:33:16.680 against each other i first saw it pitting store owners against customers like there was a there was

00:33:21.720 a little italian bakery block away i would go to every morning every morning i would go there for

00:33:27.400 a little bite and a little coffee every day i wouldn't say we were friends but i was a regular

00:33:33.720 and then where's your mask where's your mask i'm sorry i'm not your friend anymore i have never been back

00:33:39.480 and i regret that because part of life part of a neighborhood part of a feeling of community is

00:33:45.000 well that's the shop where i have my coffee and that's the place and there's a nice lady there 1.00

00:33:49.640 and there's a like you feel the and you're pitted against these people and they're they're probably

00:33:54.840 don't want to be against you but they're they're afraid of something or maybe they're afraid of

00:33:59.640 their more zealous customers and families and friends and i think it's been you know there's been

00:34:08.120 tremendous objectively measurable harms done but i think that it's hard to measure the harm amongst people

00:34:16.680 and between friends and between family members and i want to know if you think that that has healed

00:34:22.680 at all and i ask you that because i i found your tweets on the subject quite poignant and very sad

00:34:28.280 actually um and you were very candid and honest about that is there a interpersonal healing that has

00:34:36.440 happened or is this like a war and people will just never forget it until they die i i my experience i

00:34:46.040 would say is the latter i don't think um the friendships that uh ruptured in my life i don't

00:34:51.480 think are going to come back and part of it i admit is because of me you know i actually i sort of

00:34:56.200 blamed them because they you know told me i was a bad person for not wanting to wear a mask or for

00:35:01.880 thinking that lockdowns when work or questioning the whole uh idea of this you know virus mitigation

00:35:06.840 government and imposed virus mitigation and uh ann bauer who's also on twitter and has a large 0.98

00:35:12.840 following she said something that i i sort of recognized and i hadn't been willing to acknowledge

00:35:16.840 myself which is i think a lot of them i think much less of a lot of them and i don't want them in my

00:35:21.720 life i saw how they reacted i saw that you know i saw selfishness i saw people who didn't really you

00:35:27.080 know purporting to be leftists who didn't really care about the working class who didn't really care

00:35:31.320 about children from disadvantaged homes who just you know were terrified and wanted to stay at home on zoom

00:35:36.760 um which and you know i have empathy for people being terrified but to be nasty and cruel to other

00:35:42.120 people and to refuse to listen when they have you know thoughts that might differ from the approved

00:35:46.840 messaging and to tell them they're bad people i don't think it's forgivable and so you know i have

00:35:51.000 to say a lot of it is me i don't want them back in my life very interesting we're in very strange days

00:35:58.840 we salute you and we're fans of the new civil liberties alliance your public interest law firm

00:36:04.280 and i love that name the new civil liberties alliance because it is true it is a new coalition

00:36:08.440 of people who are you know you talked about where were the people who cared about working

00:36:14.760 class folks where were the people who cared about children you're so right it's an interest even our

00:36:19.560 company here we have people working for us today who i think in the before times would have said oh you're

00:36:24.760 too right-wing or something but what what does it mean to be right-wing if you're for privacy you don't

00:36:29.000 want to fill out trudeau's spyware app what does it mean if you believe in bodily integrity that used

00:36:34.120 to be a liberal thing so it is a new alliance and i like it myself i like dealing with people who i

00:36:42.920 hadn't known before it's uh it stretched me as a person we work with an interesting coalition i think

00:36:49.960 you're part of that i mean your your nickname is lefty lockdown like like you you call yourself a woman of 1.00

00:36:55.800 the left or maybe you used to be and no longer do i mean there are some some wonderful things

00:37:01.960 that have come out of this horrific two years but i think on the whole every one of us is poorer and

00:37:08.120 sadder uh not every one of us but i think most of us are and it's it's been a very troubling time

00:37:14.120 i think it has been the worst thing to happen the worst thing to happen to canada

00:37:18.440 in our country's history we didn't have slavery because i would say that would i would say american

00:37:25.160 slavery was a greater violation of civil liberties than this of course um but i think that this

00:37:32.280 lockdown and the government going to war against its own people and pitting people against each other

00:37:38.120 is actually the worst thing to ever happen to canada and i think most canadians failed the more the

00:37:44.760 the moral test of the moment and i'm not saying that to push myself up i'm saying i'm i'm shocked

00:37:51.080 and sad to see how easily everyone else tumbled and um i'll stop being so pessimistic janine that's

00:37:57.880 that's very similar to how i feel that it's i was surprised that people were so weak and so easily

00:38:04.600 terrorized into turning on each other yeah well you're one of the fighters you're one of the good

00:38:09.640 ones thank you janine great to see you again there you have it janine youness one of our favorite

00:38:14.840 people stay with us more ahead

00:38:28.200 well folks a lot of responses regarding ezreal events interview with sheila gun reed regarding the

00:38:34.680 fact that tamara leach is now a free woman once again at least for the meantime a few responses to

00:38:42.680 read to you dean tate writes unfortunately the tyranny didn't fail it's unbelievable that how reasonable

00:38:52.120 people have to celebrate a simple justice yeah a simple justice uh my friend and really what was the

00:39:00.360 crime i was there when tamara leach back in june was getting that freedom award in toronto and there 0.73

00:39:10.600 was no incitement to violence there was no call for demonstrations nothing i am still baffled why tamara leach

00:39:20.920 was arrested just days before dominion day and incarcerated in the first place it is shameful

00:39:27.640 and janice fiamingo writes listening to the cbc gives me severe nausea bravo to tamara leach

00:39:38.280 and to the rebel for being one of the very few journalistic outlets to tell the truth yeah and i feel

00:39:46.120 your pain janice and to think that you are paying for the cbc traumatizes traumatizing you in such a

00:39:55.720 fashion talk about insult to injury well folks thank you so much for tuning in the big boss man he'll be

00:40:03.080 back tomorrow in the meantime stay sane celine gallus here for rebel news i'm in masquiches alberta

00:40:10.040 where pope francis is here to deliver apology to the aboriginal communities here on this territory

00:40:15.080 i'm asking people if they believe that this apology tour has been too over politicized by the trudeau

00:40:19.560 government or if this is something that the indigenous communities here inherently need in

00:40:23.640 order to move on it's good to see him come here and apologize to us i mean we've been looking for

00:40:33.640 that for a long time a lot of our people suffer through all this i'm one of the survivors that when

00:40:40.680 he was in there i went through a lot of trouble through this just listening to him makes me feel

00:40:48.600 better maybe you start up a better life i wouldn't know it's really hard to say what's going to happen

00:40:54.200 after this it's good to go back to the people and talk to them see what the elders say about it

00:40:59.800 it's really hard but it's good to see that it just happened i thought it never happened but it did

00:41:06.680 happen i'm glad it's happened i know there's some people out there that are not too happy about

00:41:12.120 what's happening here now a lot of my people did show up why they're so unhappy with what's happening

00:41:19.080 here with this resident school but it's happened we can't do nothing about it it's it's here we heard

00:41:27.000 about it we asked for it we got it now we just got to deal with it best as we can go back home and let

00:41:35.160 the people know what we thought about it being here that's why i've been sitting standing here

00:41:39.960 really doing a lot of thinking what i'm going to say back from people when i get back home again

00:41:45.080 yes it's going to be all important because all they could consider to do with our children

00:41:49.880 like now i got four grandchildren now i got three great-grandchildren so i got a lot of teaching to

00:41:56.280 do with a lot of stuff with my children and my family it really tore up a lot of the people in our

00:42:01.800 community but we're slowly coming back together i mean it's hard to take this all back together it'll

00:42:07.960 take time but it won't be back it's incredible i mean we need that as a people like when somebody

00:42:14.280 hurts you you have to apologize and accept forgive protocol in native culture is if somebody apologize

00:42:20.040 you have to accept it you know and that's what i believe first thing i'll start out with is there

00:42:25.640 was no mention of the sexual abuse and the protection of nuns and priests

00:42:29.960 that committed those offenses against children that wasn't included in his apology he mentioned

00:42:35.960 every other abuse but that and that's where many you know suffered at the hands like that was the

00:42:41.800 worst type of abuse they could experience in those schools and that was cloaked in religion and why do

00:42:48.680 you think that uh he wouldn't address that because they're responsible for covering up those actions

00:42:54.760 as far as i'm concerned yes they didn't want to mention the names i know they made one arrest but

00:42:59.800 there's like 5 000 other more something like that uh of these people that are alive that

00:43:08.280 we haven't felt like seem to get justice for you know what i mean like with the children yeah

00:43:13.160 it's hard to say uh you know sometimes it's really from the heart just like our prime minister too when he

00:43:19.240 talks about some native issues and stuff you just wonder how deep from the heart it actually comes

00:43:25.960 and i think it's got to be way deep inside the heart to really take effect and talking to a lot of

00:43:31.800 elders and stuff and friends there's it's basically the same deal um it's very i really enjoyed it the

00:43:40.200 way the words that he used and apologizing to everybody and that and saying that he's going to

00:43:46.440 support the healing and the reconciliation and um with all and to be the indigenous people to be

00:43:54.120 respected with their culture their language and everything it was very emotional because my mother was

00:44:01.800 in residential school and she kind of passed down how she was treated to me the oldest daughter

00:44:08.440 yeah but um i i have forgiven i had worked on myself already but there's other people that need

00:44:15.960 to start their healing two way and this one is uh it's a big step and they have to accept the apology

00:44:25.000 as jesus said on the cross forgive them father one of my favorite lines from one of my old christian

00:44:31.960 songs um it was uh it's called before before before the throne of of god uh it's written by i forget who

00:44:38.520 but one of the lines is uh in the course is uh to look at him and pardon me and that's a

00:44:45.720 funny way to say i look at god and pardon myself but no today today i stand here to fully say and

00:44:53.880 surrender everything and say to look at him and forgive thee

00:45:04.040 i will continue to forgive but i will not i will not in this lifetime forget

00:45:10.440 and do you think with trudeau being here that this event is being maybe a little bit too over

00:45:16.280 politicized with his apology tour uh well everybody has their agenda right so everybody's here for a

00:45:22.920 reason right and i don't think it's all because of us but uh yes you know so

00:45:30.200 what was important to me was the names of the children that they that we carried in in the the

00:45:39.960 procession is that these people look and that these are these were living human beings these were

00:45:45.960 innocent children they didn't deserve what happened to them and they're not here to tell their story

00:45:52.120 and those are the ones that they can find you know these are not the ones that they're they're

00:45:57.320 thinking they're finding an unmarked race yeah so yeah that part was very hard yeah because for some

00:46:06.440 people it doesn't mean nothing to them you know what i mean and that's their opinion like they're here

00:46:10.440 for their agenda and then there's these children that you know never got to live a full life yeah so

00:46:20.680 the apology is over the pope has now left what did you make of the apology how do you feel about him

00:46:24.600 being here well that's a loaded question because it's important that he was here he apologized

00:46:29.960 again said he felt the deep shame and that's critical that he feels that but what he also said was

00:46:35.640 really important although he didn't denounce the doctrine of discovery he said there was going to be

00:46:40.600 a serious investigation and that there was policies that were detrimental and so he knows that that

00:46:47.800 is the doctrine of discovery uh how do i feel uh it's a mixed emotion i feel anger and uh because

00:46:54.600 my parents survived indian residential schools i'm here for them i'm here for my grandparents i'm here

00:47:00.760 for my daughter and there's a lot of emotions and he was gifted a warm on it and i sat there and

00:47:06.840 wondered what my father as a chief would have said today watching that take place i personally have a

00:47:13.640 mixed emotion about that and it concerns me what's he going to do with it will there be reconciliation

00:47:20.840 as he wears that will there be reconciliation as he carries that sacred peace from our people so it

00:47:27.160 was interesting to watch but i'm not sure we'll see if there's action to the words if there's true

00:47:32.520 healing and reconciliation and he asked us to forgive that's a big ask and he takes it's going to take

00:47:40.440 courage but we know our people are resilient we know we're courageous so that's something to ponder

00:47:47.400 and that's our next business and separate responsibility but we'll see i'm not totally

00:47:53.640 convinced but we'll see can i ask you one more thing yes what do you make of justin trudeau and jagmeet

00:47:59.800 sink being here do you think that this apology tour that they've ordered is a little bit too over

00:48:03.400 politicized i think it was important that they were here because they they play the role

00:48:10.600 of the genocide the colonialism the legislative destruction of our peoples and the words of

00:48:18.440 the pope are universal so justin has to respond as well the prime minister of canada the government

00:48:24.200 of canada has to respond to this and do something to undo those detrimental policies and that investigate

00:48:31.240 that serious investigation he talked about so those words were meant for him to and i think it's

00:48:37.320 important that he participates in this to undo all of that it now seems that the event has wrapped up

00:48:44.280 the pope has finished his speech has finished his apology we've seen a lot of mixed reactions today

00:48:49.800 that we're able to show you we got those interviews on camera um overall i think that a lot of people

00:48:55.480 feel that the apology is really positive and that it's going to be really important for healing going

00:49:00.040 forward that said there are some people that do feel like there's a little bit of an agenda behind this

00:49:04.600 of an agenda behind this apology tour so

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