Rebel News Podcast - August 16, 2025


EZRA LEVANT | Canadian Press labels U.S. government 'Orwellian' for criticizing Canada's censorship laws


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A new Rebel freelancer, Emma, joins me to talk about her background and what she wants to do. And I also tell you about an incredible story in the Canadian Press Newswire that calls the US State Department Orwellian for being concerned about free speech here in Canada.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, everybody. Fun show today, if I do say so myself. First of all, I interview a new rebel
00:00:05.920 freelancer who I think is doing great, and hopefully we'll see a lot more of. Her name is
00:00:10.420 Emma, and she's covering the UK migration protest beat. We'll talk to her about her background and
00:00:16.860 what she wants to do. And I also want to tell you my monologue about an incredible story in the
00:00:22.700 Canadian Press Newswire that calls the US State Department Orwellian for being concerned about
00:00:29.540 free speech here in Canada. They literally say, if you care about free speech, you're Orwellian,
00:00:35.240 as opposed to the censors up here. It's crazy. I'll try and make sense of it for you. That's ahead.
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00:01:41.760 Tonight, which is more Orwellian? The Canadian government that censors people, or the American
00:01:48.260 government, that complains about the Canadian government. It's August 15th, and this is the
00:01:53.120 Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:54.620 You're fighting for freedom!
00:01:57.460 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:02:09.340 Hey, what media company, what news outlet, do you think is the most important propaganda tool for
00:02:15.900 the Liberal Party of Canada? If you answer quickly, I bet you'd say the CBC. And in many ways,
00:02:22.080 you're right. They're larger than all other news companies in Canada combined, in terms of staff
00:02:27.800 and money. They often set the agenda for other reporters that copy them. But in terms of actual
00:02:33.800 views, you know, they don't command attention of Canadians like they used to. In the pre-internet
00:02:38.600 age, at least, there was some truth to the CBC, the idea that the CBC unified Canadians in that
00:02:45.560 they gave a single political narrative to everyone, whether you liked it or not. And if you didn't
00:02:51.240 like it, what were you going to do? That was before the internet, before talk radio was big.
00:02:55.400 So each night in Canada, since there really weren't other options, about a million people did,
00:03:01.300 in fact, tune in to the CBC's flagship news shows, like The National, with Knowlton Nash,
00:03:07.460 and then later Peter Mansbridge. I don't know if you remember those names. You have to be of a 1.00
00:03:11.340 certain vintage. Can you even name the hosts now? Do they still even publish The National?
00:03:17.000 When was the last time you watched it? Now, maybe you do. Maybe it's a hard habit for you to break,
00:03:22.660 but their viewership is so low, I don't think they even publish it anymore. It used to be a million.
00:03:28.820 Last I saw, it was about a quarter million. Imagine that, even though the country's population
00:03:33.160 has never been bigger, and their budget has never been bigger, no one watches CBC News,
00:03:39.500 at least no one under 50 years old. I think the most powerful propaganda outlet for the liberal
00:03:45.280 government may be something different, and it's funded by the government, of course.
00:03:50.540 It's called the Canadian Press. It's a newswire, which means it's a group of reporters who write
00:03:56.300 stories and make those stories available to a variety of news companies to run those stories
00:04:02.500 as if the stories were their own. It's like a national, it's like a Canadian version of Reuters
00:04:07.640 or the Associated Press. Basically, if you start your own small newspaper or website and you don't
00:04:14.280 have a budget to hire a reporter in Ottawa and in Montreal and in Vancouver and in Toronto and
00:04:19.080 anywhere else, you can subscribe to the Canadian Press and they've got you covered.
00:04:22.820 You could literally publish an entire newspaper just with their stuff, not hire a single person
00:04:29.780 of your own. I'm not sure if there are companies that do that, but it would make sense to. There's
00:04:35.100 certainly many companies that fill all the gaps of their own coverage with Canadian Press words
00:04:39.680 and pictures, or CP as it's often known, which is one reason you sometimes see the exact same story
00:04:46.980 with the exact same headline in publications that are supposedly competing with each other.
00:04:53.220 They have the same story and that's the thing, isn't it? CP, Canadian Press stories, sneak their way
00:04:59.340 into other publications and use whatever reputation those other publications have, like your local
00:05:04.760 newspaper. They use your local newspaper's reputation to whitewash the fact that CP Wire copy is probably
00:05:13.760 the most pro-liberal content in Canada. First of all, of course, they're heavily funded by the government,
00:05:20.560 but of course, I mean, here's just a small list of special grants that they've received over the last
00:05:27.360 few years from Trudeau. It just never stops. There are so many of them and those are just special grants.
00:05:33.580 There are a large number of government troughs that are like general grants that they feed from.
00:05:39.480 Let me give you one example. Here's them getting more than a million bucks for indigenous reporting,
00:05:45.740 which of course means a particular agenda, pumping up the liberal government's claims of
00:05:50.920 genocide in residential schools. So I put it to you that the Canadian Press is more dangerous than the
00:05:57.120 CBC because it hides its identity in the identity of the newspaper that publishes it. You sometimes see
00:06:03.040 those little letters CP or CP Wire, but most people don't look at that. Most people don't know what that
00:06:08.000 means. It means it's a CP story sneaking into your local newspaper. Here's an example. Here's a story
00:06:13.520 and I'm actually quoting from the Canadian Press's own website here. The story is U.S. State Department
00:06:20.360 targets online news act in human rights report. That's an interesting headline. Here's how it was
00:06:26.240 phrased on Twitter by some CP subscribers. This is City News Toronto. The U.S. State Department is taking
00:06:34.260 aim at Canada's online news act in a human rights report that criticizes press freedom in Canada,
00:06:40.340 which experts characterize Thursday as Orwellian. Okay, I'm a little bit confused because of the
00:06:48.320 grammar there. What's the Orwellian part? Is it the online news act or the U.S. human rights report?
00:06:54.340 Well, obviously it's the online news act and other censorship, but that's not how this story puts
00:07:00.000 it. It's actually ambiguous, isn't it? It's a bit confusing. Let me read the story from the city
00:07:05.080 website. You'll see what I mean immediately about this having the identical headline written by Anna
00:07:10.300 Caradiglia, the Canadian press. I'll just read it. The U.S. State Department is taking aim at Canada's
00:07:16.380 online news act in a human rights report that criticizes press freedom in Canada, which experts
00:07:21.580 characterize Thursday as Orwellian. Now, I'm thinking, oh, the Canadian censorship is what's Orwellian.
00:07:27.840 No, no, no, no, no, no. It's this, welcome to opposite day. Let me read some more. The online
00:07:33.540 news act, which requires Meta, that owns Facebook and Instagram, and Google, which owns YouTube,
00:07:39.840 to compensate news publishers for the use of their content is cited in a section of the report
00:07:44.760 covering freedom in the press. That's quite some spin. In plain English, as you may know,
00:07:50.020 the Canadian government has told Facebook and Google that they have to pay to link to news stories in
00:07:58.180 Canada. If someone types in something in the search engine and Google says, okay, click here,
00:08:03.360 they have to pay for the privilege of that. It's such a huge shakedown. It's contrary to the whole
00:08:08.040 nature of the internet, which is clicking and sharing. You don't have to pay to link to someone. In fact,
00:08:13.100 you're doing them a favor by sending them traffic. It's the reverse. News outlets pay Google, pay
00:08:20.480 Facebook, because they want people to come to their sites. Anyways, Facebook saw this for what it is,
00:08:26.940 a shakedown. They refuse to pay. And so the only way to be compliant with the law is to not link to
00:08:32.220 Canadian news stories on Facebook or Instagram, so they don't have to pay the shakedown, because
00:08:37.360 otherwise they'd be breaking the law if they link. So it's a form of censorship. Basically, the Canadian
00:08:42.080 government says, pay us a huge amount of money or don't link to Canadian news stories, so they don't
00:08:46.560 link. It's atrocious. It's awful for little companies. Okay, back to the story. Look at who the
00:08:52.340 Canadian press says the enemy is here. The U.S. is determined to crush two important pieces of Canadian
00:08:59.500 legislation, the Online News Act and the Online Streaming Act. Their end game is clear, said Fenn Hampson,
00:09:06.560 an international affairs professor at Carleton University. Who is Fenn Hampson? That's such an
00:09:11.880 interesting name. I googled him. He is the president of the World Refugee and Migration Council. That's a bit
00:09:19.380 of a weird choice to quote about media bias. That's just really weird. Let me read more in the story.
00:09:27.100 Hampson said large tech companies oppose both pieces of legislation. What we're seeing is not what I would
00:09:32.980 call honest criticism. Fenn knows if you're honest or not. It's a calculated campaign to protect big tech
00:09:39.160 profits, he said. I would say, to put it bluntly, the report takes tiny grains of truth and spins them
00:09:45.860 into a full-blown web of deception and misinformation that is perhaps worthy of George Orwell himself.
00:09:51.680 Oh my god! So the people opposing the regulation and the taxation of social media, they're like big
00:10:00.160 brother? And wouldn't you know it, the Canadian press found another professor to say the exact same
00:10:06.540 thing. What are the odds? Alfred Hermida, a professor at the University of British Columbians
00:10:11.880 Journalism School, also referred to the concept of double think from Orwell's famous political
00:10:18.060 dystopian novel 1984. Hermida said the report takes things, quote, that are actually promoting press
00:10:23.800 freedom, but presenting them in a way as if they're curtailing freedom. Got it. So opposing the
00:10:29.700 regulations, censorship, and taxation of social media, that's 1984. But the government that's doing
00:10:36.340 those things, that's actually, I'm so confused. How is taxing and regulating the internet promoting
00:10:44.100 freedom? This is so upside down. These professors are accusing the U.S. State Department of doing
00:10:51.440 precisely what they're doing. I got whipped last year. Now I thought this was interesting. Take a look
00:10:55.540 at this. The State Department took issue with a stream of that initiative, talking about government
00:11:01.700 funding, that prioritizes the hiring of diverse journalists, including those who are indigenous,
00:11:07.280 black, have disabilities, who are part of the LGBTQ community. The report claims it discriminated
00:11:13.180 against journalists who fell outside of these favored categories. So the U.S. State Department is
00:11:18.440 saying by giving money based on race or sex is discriminating to other people, which is so obviously 1.00
00:11:24.500 true. We have visible minorities working at Rebel News. I'm not going to list them or identify them
00:11:31.140 to you. That would imply their tokens. We have people of every background at Rebel News. We have
00:11:36.760 not applied for special grants for black reporters or indigenous reporters. We just haven't. We could, 0.54
00:11:43.640 I guess, and we'd receive hundreds of thousands of tax dollars if we did, but we didn't because we're
00:11:48.380 not racist freaks. But look at the Canadian press's professor, an elderly white male. You know, I, by the way,
00:11:56.480 I got nothing against elderly white male. I think I'm sort of becoming one myself. Here's what he had to
00:12:00.800 say. I'm talking about Professor Hermita. Hermita said media has, by and large, been very white and very
00:12:07.660 male, and the effort to increase diversity is attempting to correct historical harms. Hermita added,
00:12:15.380 it's really startling to see such a politicized report come out of the State Department. He described
00:12:20.680 it as a MAGA lens on press freedom in Canada. Got it. Hey, have you ever seen a white male quitting
00:12:28.920 his own job to give it to a woman of color? Or they just want other people to pay the price for their 1.00
00:12:35.520 reverse racism? Did you know, by the way, that white males, by doing journalism, have created historical 0.67
00:12:41.800 harm? I didn't know that. But then again, I'm not a student in Professor Hermita's class.
00:12:48.080 I love that line, though, MAGA press freedom. You know, it's designed to be scary, MAGA. But I sort of
00:12:55.660 like a little bit of that MAGA freedom myself, you know, the First Amendment and all that.
00:13:00.360 So by the way, who wrote this story for the Canadian press that's been reprinted across the country,
00:13:05.800 that doesn't actually quote anyone on the other side of the story? They just have two professors
00:13:10.220 condemning freedom of speech. They found two professors to use the exact same identical
00:13:17.500 language. That's quite a trick. I wonder who crafted such a news article. Why, it's Anya Caradalia,
00:13:27.020 if I'm saying her name right. She's a journalist. But here she is participating in a propaganda session 0.74
00:13:36.780 with Stephen Gilboa, the Liberal Party cabinet minister who drafted these media censorship laws.
00:13:44.460 This is through a Liberal Party think tank called Canada 2020. I thought that was weird at the time. I remember
00:13:51.040 seeing it. Since when does a reporter work at a political party function as a propagandist,
00:14:00.740 participating with the cabinet minister, and then go back to journalism the next day reporting on those
00:14:05.520 same liberal journalists. You see my point? See, when the CBC comes to lie to you, when the CBC tells you
00:14:12.780 that censorship is freedom, and freedom is censorship, when the CBC uses the word MAGA to scare you, at least
00:14:19.200 you know they're government journalists, so you know not to trust them. But when the Canadian press does the
00:14:25.820 same thing, under a hundred different names, being those subscribing newspapers across the country,
00:14:30.080 it's sneakier, isn't it? Anya Caradalia has always been running errands for the Liberal Party, 0.76
00:14:37.500 whether it's at a Liberal Party conference like Canada 2020, or now the Liberal Party's funded CP News.
00:14:44.540 Never, never, never trust them. Stay with us for more.
00:14:50.960 Oh, hi there. Did you see this video from the United Kingdom that we published a couple of days ago?
00:15:07.880 Take a look. Hello, everyone. This is Emma Dunwell reporting for Rebel News, and today I am in
00:15:13.100 Waterlooville near Portsmouth, and I'm just outside of Boots on London Street, the flats above which were
00:15:20.000 proposed by the Home Office to be used to house 35 asylum seekers. This then faced massive local
00:15:26.080 backlash that turned national, with figures like Suella Bravman calling it an inappropriate decision.
00:15:31.060 And a protest was held about two weeks ago, where about 2,000 people turned up,
00:15:35.580 calling the decision undemocratic. The Home Office, since the protest, has reversed their decision
00:15:40.080 to house the asylum seekers here.
00:15:41.560 We want to stop it! We want to stop it! We want to stop it!
00:15:50.000 Well, that's a short excerpt from a great video. I find it fascinating to see the British people
00:15:55.920 finally standing up and protesting. I had wondered when that was going to happen. I'd seen it across
00:16:01.360 the sea in Ireland, and I thought, well, what's really the difference? Because the UK is much more
00:16:07.300 progressed and advanced in mass immigration, but I think the UK has finally lost its fear of being
00:16:14.340 called names by the establishment. What I mean by that is the people going to these protests in the
00:16:19.560 hundreds and even in the thousands are no longer worried about being called far-right. That's the
00:16:25.460 insult in the UK. That would be like being called alt-right here in North America. And you see severely
00:16:31.400 normal people, ordinary people. I'm not talking about professional activists. I'm talking about
00:16:36.580 real moms and dads. Oh, there are some professional activists on the other side, NGO groups like
00:16:43.920 Stand Up to Racism or Hope Not Hate or other Antifa-affiliated groups. They are bussed in
00:16:51.200 given pre-printed signs and are the counter-protesters, but they're usually outnumbered and dispatched.
00:16:59.500 But what's exciting to me is, I mean, listen, you know me. I love going over there to cover it,
00:17:04.040 but it takes me away from work here in Canada. And it's a long journey. It's a seven-hour flight each
00:17:09.600 way. And it's not cheap either. I have to tell you, I am delighted to have found a great young
00:17:17.860 UK journalist who is just as interested in these protests as I am. And she has agreed to do
00:17:25.920 reports like the one you just saw for us from time to time. May I introduce to you Emma Dunwell,
00:17:33.840 who is a freelance journalist who's agreed to do work in this vein for Rebel News. Emma,
00:17:38.780 great to see you. Thanks so much for having me on, Ezra. How are you?
00:17:43.420 Well, I'm doing great. And I have to say, I was so pleased with your report. I thought it was so
00:17:48.280 professional. I hope you don't mind. I'm going to tell people that you're of the tender age of 21,
00:17:54.200 if I'm not mistaken, but you carry yourself with great confidence and aplomb. And I'm very excited
00:18:00.440 about your citizen journalism. Why don't you tell our viewers a little bit about yourself?
00:18:04.340 Where are you from? How did you get this interest in politics? And how long have you
00:18:08.760 been doing citizen journalism? Well, I started, just to be brief, I started
00:18:16.980 only in November. I went to a Tommy Robinson rally on October 26. And he had inspired me to want to
00:18:27.760 try and become a citizen journalist. And I was interviewed at the protest. The interview got
00:18:34.540 a fair amount of views. And I started working for resistance GB where I started training with them.
00:18:42.760 And within a couple of weeks, I was interviewing politicians with really no experience.
00:18:48.240 But I was absolutely loving it. I was covering protests. I was doing live streams. And it was
00:18:53.960 just amazing. But I've always, I've always been interested in politics. I've always, you know,
00:18:59.820 been quite opinionated. And yeah, I just started to really notice that what's going on in the UK,
00:19:07.460 and the massive threat to free speech, I started feeling really upset about the winter fuel payments
00:19:13.820 issue, the trans ideology towards children. I mean, my younger brother is autistic. And I noticed that
00:19:20.580 there was a targeting of neurodivergent children. So it started to feel like I had a duty. Because it 1.00
00:19:28.420 seems that modern warfare is not drones or anything like that. It's information. And the more people
00:19:34.940 out there getting information, and not being paid thousands and thousands, and they have no reasons
00:19:41.660 try and hide anything, the more people will know the truth. And that's when I decided that I wanted
00:19:46.400 to become a citizen journalist.
00:19:48.000 You know, I love hearing you use that word. We use that phrase a lot here in Canada.
00:19:52.440 I've been coming to the UK on and off for really a decade. Tommy Robinson was our first citizen
00:19:58.120 journalist there. He's a little bit of a hot potato. He worked for us for about a year, but we've
00:20:02.660 stayed friends ever since. Citizen journalism, I think, is having its golden age in the UK. There's so many
00:20:10.020 bright young people. We had Jack Hadfield on the other day. I really like that guy. And it's almost like you've
00:20:18.180 got a young posse of young citizen journalists with cell phone cameras and microphones. And you've got courage
00:20:25.240 because you're, you know, you're good for each other's morale. And you also have each other's back. And I just
00:20:31.820 see there's a critical mass there. And I got to tell you what you're doing is so important because I know
00:20:38.640 the BBC, that's the state broadcaster over there and the Guardian and all the other media, they either
00:20:46.560 ignore these citizen protests or they demonize them or they downplay them. I think the citizen
00:20:54.220 journalists are breaking the cone of silence, the information embargo. And I think you and some of
00:21:03.440 the other young people I mentioned, I think you're going to actually turn this thing around because you
00:21:08.560 are giving people a window on what's going on. You're disproving the lies. Like, I love the fact
00:21:13.360 that you did what we call streeters or vox pop, talking to ordinary people. They're not racist. They're not,
00:21:19.240 you know, far right. They're just mums and grandmas mainly. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I have
00:21:25.580 witnessed, I've witnessed no racism. And I often go around with my cameraman who sometimes helped me,
00:21:35.680 helps me out if I don't want to film first person. And he is a Jamaican immigrant. So if there was any
00:21:42.300 racism, I think he would be the first one to experience it. And I did actually ask him because I
00:21:46.800 thought, well, if there is racism here, I'm not going to be the one to really see it. And I did ask him,
00:21:51.480 I said, you know, what was the vibe like? Did you feel like there was anyone who was judging you in that
00:21:56.720 way? And he said, no. And actually, people were coming up to him thanking him for being there because
00:22:03.040 they're always told, like you just said, that we're racist, we're far right and all of these things. And it's just
00:22:08.260 not true. We're concerned for our country. We're concerned for our children. We're concerned for just the
00:22:13.920 general safety and our sovereignty. And that's not a controversial opinion. It's also not controversial
00:22:19.540 to want to preserve our own culture. And it's not controversial to say that British people should
00:22:25.940 be a priority in Britain. Yeah, I think you're right. You know, the ideas that we're talking about
00:22:32.020 and that a lot of these protests talk about, it's only been about six years, excuse me, six months or a
00:22:37.800 year ago, that no one in the political establishment was talking about them. Even Nigel Farage, the leader
00:22:44.400 of the Reform UK party, was very careful and almost dainty when he was asked questions like Steve
00:22:50.720 Edgington asked him, would you engage in mass deportations? And he said, no. Even the last six
00:22:57.300 months, I think the Overton window has moved so much that people can start talking about deportations
00:23:05.740 and stopping the boats. I just feel like the dam has broken. Even Keir Starmer, the Labour
00:23:14.280 Prime Minister who's letting so many in, he seems to feel the need to say butch things about keeping
00:23:21.600 them out. He's not doing it. But if he feels compelled he has to pretend he's against these
00:23:27.780 illegal migrants, you know things have changed.
00:23:30.380 Oh, absolutely. Keir Starmer is utterly useless. He's absolutely useless. And not only is he useless
00:23:40.620 and incompetent, he's deliberately betraying the British people on the grounds of social cohesion,
00:23:48.320 even while he's getting us closer and closer to just more riots on the streets and possibly
00:23:53.440 civil unrest and maybe even civil war. And going back to reform, I remember just before going to the
00:24:03.800 Tommy Rally back in October, I was going to be a reform voter. And then Richard Tice came out and called
00:24:11.540 Tommy's lot that lot. And I think it just absolutely crushed and alienated so much of their voting base.
00:24:22.260 Because we really thought that they were going to be the new right, that we're going to stamp down on 1.00
00:24:27.860 immigration, stamp down on woke ideology, and just put Britain back to normal. But no, they started to 0.98
00:24:35.940 cower, they've started to backpedal. I mean, they even started suggesting one in, one out, just like
00:24:42.100 Starmer did. I mean, it's absolutely ludicrous. And we're supposed to still champion them as some kind of,
00:24:49.660 you know, hard as nails, working class, understands the blue collar man, when they clearly don't. 0.54
00:24:56.020 I have a bit of a different opinion than you. And maybe it's because I'm not a British citizen. So I don't have as much
00:25:01.060 skin in the game. I still think that Nigel Farage has the best chance of actually winning an election
00:25:08.420 on this mandate. I think the conservative party is in disarray, very low in the polls.
00:25:13.640 Keir Starmer obviously can't be trusted. I, here's how I see it. Of course, Nigel Farage is a politician
00:25:19.180 first. And politicians are always going to break your heart. They're always going to let you down.
00:25:23.520 But if other forces, whether it's Tommy Robinson, or citizen journalists, or other smaller parties,
00:25:31.860 like Restore UK, or Reclaim, and Advance UK, I don't know the names of all of them. But there's so
00:25:38.440 many new little parties that are, that are hard relying on immigration. If they can, I'm using that 1.00
00:25:44.760 phrase, the Overton window. But I guess what I mean is, if they can push the conversation
00:25:49.740 forward, Nigel Farage, one thing he's good at is seeing where a parade is mustering and then going
00:25:56.160 to the front of it to lead it. I think all politicians, that's their skill. So Emma, I see
00:26:01.620 your role and the role of so many citizen journalists and citizen activists is to change where the middle
00:26:08.420 ground is. So Nigel Farage has no chance, no choice, but to get tougher. And so I, I wouldn't write
00:26:16.880 him off myself. Cause I think that in the end, he'll, he's going to steal all your ideas. He's
00:26:21.660 going to steal all the ideas from Tommy Robinson in the end. And the people who were with Tommy the
00:26:26.520 whole time will say, Hey, you used to demonize the guy, but as long as these, this becomes UK policy,
00:26:32.880 I don't care who does it. Now, maybe I should care more about the ins and outs of different political
00:26:37.800 parties, but I just want to see the conversation move to the right. Back to you, Emma. What do you
00:26:42.100 think? No, I, I absolutely agree. And I, to be honest, although I don't, I'm not a particular
00:26:48.500 fan of Farage for the reasons that I just said, I do think that he will most likely be the next
00:26:55.820 prime minister. Uh, even though I think he alienated a lot of his voting base when Richard
00:27:02.160 Tice made that comment, um, and the kind of further alienation that he's done to Tommy
00:27:08.600 Robinson, um, I still do think that the majority of people will vote reform, even if they are angry
00:27:16.200 at the exact same thing things, because it's splitting the right. We have all these parties,
00:27:21.840 like you just said, advance UK, UKIP, uh, heritage, or we have all of these different parties, but what
00:27:27.040 people keep fearing is the fact that while we're all branching off, there's no one party that could
00:27:33.240 really secure us. Um, but with what you said about the Overton window shifting, I hope that as well as
00:27:43.340 a shift from mainstream media to citizen journalism, we will see, um, parties on the right uniting for
00:27:51.600 the greater good of the country. I really, really hope that it might be a pipe dream. It might be
00:27:57.220 a fairy tale, you know, with the world we're living in, but that, that is my biggest hope because I do think
00:28:02.800 that if, for instance, the likes of, um, heritage, uh, UKIP and, um, advance UK, sorry, it came to me,
00:28:14.500 um, if they all perhaps joined reform and they actually all were willing to sit down, maybe chuck
00:28:21.140 some of their own policies out in order to create a new party together that represented the main populace
00:28:28.620 of the right wing without having to, you know, backpedal on immigration and the really important
00:28:35.160 things going on in our country right now. I think that's exactly what we need, but regardless,
00:28:39.760 I do think that Farage is likely the next prime minister. Yeah. Well, I think the nature of
00:28:45.020 political parties is that everybody wants to be the boss. And if someone could be the leader of
00:28:50.400 their own party or the deputy boss of someone else's party, they're going to choose split his,
00:28:55.200 I mean, it's just, I think human nature, but what I care more about is the policy. And just for quick
00:29:00.160 example, the conservative party, which ruled the UK for 14 years under whose watch immigration
00:29:06.580 skyrocketed, they're trying to rebrand themselves as being tougher than the U than reform UK. So I
00:29:12.720 love the fact that you have a contest amongst these other parties of who can be tougher and harder
00:29:18.400 lying on immigration. But listen, Emma, what I really care about is not politicians, but what's
00:29:24.440 happening on the streets, what real Brits are thinking, and the fact that they're no longer
00:29:28.720 afraid to stand up and be counted. And so you and I were just talking before we turned the camera on.
00:29:34.360 I would love it if you were to continue being our eyes and ears on the ground at these grassroots
00:29:40.900 peaceful protests. I want to keep showing the world that the people who want to stop mass
00:29:46.560 immigration are normal moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas, normal young girls who are worried that
00:29:53.560 they can no longer walk the streets safely at night. It's so important that you show the reality
00:29:59.160 because otherwise the lies of the regime media will take root. Will you continue to make videos
00:30:05.800 for us from time to time from these grassroots protests? Because you're there on the ground.
00:30:10.840 It's hard for me to trek overseas there. It takes me a couple of days to get going and it's expensive.
00:30:16.680 But if you can help us out by being our eyes and ears on the ground, not only I think would Canadians
00:30:21.960 and Americans love it, but I think you'd have a huge following in the UK too, because there's simply
00:30:27.160 a demand for the truth.
00:30:29.960 Well, I would absolutely love to, and I am massively grateful for the opportunity.
00:30:37.080 And I would like to say that, yeah, I am more than motivated, I suppose I could say, to keep proving,
00:30:48.760 like you said, that these people are just worried for their country. They're not racists. They're not
00:30:55.800 bigots of any kind. And the reality is that there are some pockets of unnecessary violence,
00:31:03.080 and there are some people that are just there to cause issues. There is always going to be a handful
00:31:10.040 in any group. But that in itself is also a byproduct of the wider agenda that we're seeing of mass
00:31:16.600 immigration. And I think it's also important to report on. And yeah, I'm more than excited to be
00:31:22.600 doing that for Rebel News. Well, that's wonderful. And we'll be as helpful as we can be to you.
00:31:28.600 We'll look forward to talking to you some more. Good luck out there. Stay safe. I know that
00:31:32.760 you've been very careful so far, but the other side gets a little bit crazy. In fact,
00:31:36.840 you were at a conference for citizen journalists, and there was someone who went sort of wacko
00:31:41.880 with violence. And we'll play a clip of that to end this segment. So stay safe out there.
00:31:47.160 Keep in touch. And thanks for being a freelancer for Rebel News. Thank you, Ezra.
00:31:53.400 Thanks, Emma. And we'll close with a clip of you and that crazy interaction outside a citizen 0.98
00:31:59.880 journalist conference. We've been talking with Emma Dunwell.
00:32:02.440 I don't know who you are, man.
00:32:03.880 Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. 1.00
00:32:06.200 You're spitting on me. You're not speaking for me like this.
00:32:07.880 What the fuck is your brother? What happened? What's your issue?
00:32:09.880 Yo, no good like this. What happened? What happened? You're not speaking for me.
00:32:13.160 Me? Huh? Yeah, what?
00:32:14.120 Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. Get out of here.
00:32:17.000 What's going on? You're fucking sorry, man.
00:32:18.520 You've got blood all over us.
00:32:19.560 Mate, you're the fuck. Why are you speaking like this for me?
00:32:22.040 I didn't say anything.
00:32:23.160 You're not speaking for me like this.
00:32:26.200 Guys, please, please, please, please, please.
00:32:27.880 Get out of here.
00:32:28.680 Don't speak for me like this.
00:32:29.880 Dude, dude, dude, dude. I don't know who you are, man.
00:32:32.280 Yeah.
00:32:33.320 Why are you doing for me like this, dude?
00:32:34.600 Get the fuck away from here, man.
00:32:35.720 You're not speaking for me like this, dude.
00:32:37.720 Let's not speak for me like this, dude.
00:32:39.800 Fuck you, bitch. 1.00
00:32:41.080 Don't make me fuck you, man. 0.93
00:32:42.280 Fuck you.
00:32:43.400 You're bad guys.
00:32:44.360 Guys, guys, guys.
00:32:45.720 I'll put you down again.
00:32:46.440 Like this for me.
00:32:47.480 What do you mean I'm doing like this?
00:32:48.440 Yeah.
00:32:49.320 Guys, guys, guys.
00:32:50.520 What is your problem?
00:32:51.480 Get the fuck away. 0.94
00:32:52.280 Yeah, what the fuck, fuck off right now?
00:32:53.480 What is your problem?
00:32:54.520 Fuck for me like this.
00:32:56.120 Fuck you.
00:32:57.320 What the fuck, fuck off right now, bro?
00:32:59.000 Just walk away.
00:32:59.800 It's like you're like this.
00:33:00.840 Just walk away.
00:33:02.040 All right.
00:33:13.440 Hey, welcome back.
00:33:14.280 Your letters to me about Melanie Bennett's report
00:33:17.560 about a trans athlete, a male to female trans,
00:33:21.800 competing against the girls and actually staying
00:33:25.880 with them overnight on trips, et cetera.
00:33:28.440 Bob Matt said, I'm still blown away how one person's rights 0.96
00:33:31.400 supersede everyone else's rights.
00:33:33.080 Well, that's the thing.
00:33:34.120 It shouldn't be that way.
00:33:35.080 If you are transgender in your private life,
00:33:38.200 you're not offending everyone.
00:33:39.320 As long as you're an adult, I really don't care what you do.
00:33:41.560 I am opposed to people cutting off their body parts.
00:33:45.320 I don't think that that's going to help you.
00:33:47.480 I agree with Billboard Chris who says no one's born in the wrong body,
00:33:50.920 but that's none of my business, really.
00:33:52.840 If you're an adult and you want to take hormones or cut body parts off,
00:33:56.920 I don't agree with it, but it's none of my bloody business, I suppose.
00:34:01.720 But when you start imposing yourself on other people,
00:34:04.120 when you're a biological male who insists on going into the change rooms,
00:34:08.120 when you're a biological male who insists on being on women's sports teams and stealing 0.87
00:34:12.520 trophies meant for them, then it's not about your private personal life anymore, is it?
00:34:17.000 It's about you being a cheater and violating other people's privacy and security.
00:34:22.760 Robert Dow says not to be too hard on the girls of this team,
00:34:26.440 but they have to take a stand and not play anymore.
00:34:29.000 As long as the male is allowed to play, then stay home and don't play.
00:34:32.760 Well, I agree with you, but easier said than done.
00:34:35.400 That would only work if the whole team did it together.
00:34:38.520 Like that scene from the movie Spartacus, when they said,
00:34:41.320 who's Spartacus?
00:34:42.040 I'm Spartacus.
00:34:43.000 I'm Spartacus.
00:34:43.800 And they all were.
00:34:44.840 And the idea being, well, you can't get us all.
00:34:47.240 I'm worried though, if the entire team said we're fed up with this,
00:34:50.280 that theoretically the entire team would be sacked.
00:34:53.400 That's how powerful transgender extremism is in some of these sports leagues. 0.81
00:34:58.760 On the UK migrant monologue, Al Matthews says,
00:35:01.960 some of these people look possessed.
00:35:04.040 You know, we have no idea who illegals are.
00:35:07.800 By definition, when they throw out their documents and are undocumented, we don't know.
00:35:13.320 You know, an obvious point being, if these people are coming from war-torn places,
00:35:17.560 whose side were they on?
00:35:18.840 I saw a report just today that a suspected Houthi warlord,
00:35:24.120 those are the Islamic terrorists in Yemen, has made his way to the UK as a refugee.
00:35:29.960 Oh, I'm coming from Yemen.
00:35:31.080 There's a civil war there.
00:35:32.360 Yeah.
00:35:32.680 And you're on the side of the murdering terrorists.
00:35:35.080 When people throw their ID in the river or in the toilet of an airplane,
00:35:39.240 they're clearly coming in bad faith.
00:35:41.320 Everyone knows that.
00:35:43.160 Everyone knows that they're fake refugees. 1.00
00:35:46.200 They got to go back.
00:35:48.200 That's our show for today.
00:35:49.160 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:35:52.840 to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:35:56.040 We'll see you next time.