EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney Liberals capitalized on Trump tariff woes
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Is Mark Carney going to win the election? And if so, what will happen to Alberta if he does? Ezra Levenson sits down with columnist Lauren Gunter to talk all that and much more on this episode of The Ezra Lee Vaynerchuk Show.
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Oh, hi, everybody. We pre-recorded this show yesterday because today I'm actually in Montreal
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at the leaders debate for the Canadian election. But we had a great conversation with my friend
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Lauren Gunter talking about what happens if Mark Carney actually wins and what will happen to
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Tonight, is Mark Carney going to win? And if so, what will happen to Alberta? A feature conversation
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with our friend Lauren Gunter. It's April 16th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.
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We're ready for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
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Oh, hi, everybody. I'm actually recording this on April 15th, because on April 16th,
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me, along with a lot of our Rebel News team, will be in Montreal. We'll be there for the first of two
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leaders' debates. Tomorrow, actually, I'm saying that tomorrow, but tonight, when this airs, it'll
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be the French language debate. And tomorrow will be the English language debate. It's been a real
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battle for us to get in these debates. We were kept out by Justin Trudeau in 2019 and 2021,
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but both times we were able to get a judge to overturn that. This year, Mark Carney's debates
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commission tried to pull a trick on us, saying we were all welcome to attend, but in the secret
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fine print, they said, but only one of us could ask questions. We fought them to a draw, and they're
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going to allow five rebel questioners in the scrum. Anyways, so that's going to be happening in real
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time. So as I'm saying this to you now, as you're watching it, we're going to have a live stream of
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these debates, plus me, Andrea Humphrey, and Sheila Gunn-Reed, and Alexa Lavoie, and David Menzies
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are going to be in the scrum of the debate. But I recorded this conversation yesterday with my
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friend, Lauren Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmonton Sun, thoughtful guy, smart guy. I've known
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him for really most of my life when I was growing up in Alberta. He was a friend of mine. We're still
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friends today. And he reflects on what might happen if a new Preston Manning comes forward, who doesn't
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say the West want in, but rather says the West wants out. That could happen if Mark Carney wins.
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Here's our conversation recorded yesterday. Enjoy.
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I feel like Ontario is letting the country down. I think Ontario, for a while there, was going to
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swing back to conservatism, as it does. But it's Ontario where the Conservative Party of Canada
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votes seem to be falling apart the most. Alberta, obviously, is going to be a clean sweep for
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the Conservatives, or at least nearly so. Maybe one or two Liberals can pop up in Edmonton,
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as they sometimes do. I think Saskatchewan will be the same. But Ontario is the motherload of votes.
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The Atlantic briefly showed a majority of Conservative seats. In fact, there was a moment
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where even Prince Edward Island, historically perhaps the most Liberal of places, they had a rally with over
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1,000 people for Pierre Paulieff. But it feels like that's falling apart. And here to help explain what
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is going on, and can something happen in the remaining dozen days of the campaign, is our friend
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Lauren Gunter, Senior Columnist for the Edmonton Sun. And he's written in the Journal and other places,
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its column appears many places. I'm going to quote the headline from one of them.
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Carney liberals capitalize on older voters' fear of change and disruption. Joining us now via Skype
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is our friend Lauren Gunter. Lauren, great to see you. Fear of change and disruption. But don't voters
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also want change? Or is it just a chaotic change they're afraid of? What's going on?
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Well, the threats from Donald Trump on tariffs have created bigger fears than usual. And so, yes,
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people were afraid of another term by the Liberals, but it now seems to them that the bigger problem is
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more tariff threats from Trump. Now, that I have a sense is fading a bit because he's gone into this
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90-day pause on his tariffs. People are starting to factor into their lives, the fact that this chaos
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south of the border is going to be with us more or less for the next two years until the midterm
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elections in the United States. So, I think that now people are starting to look a little bit more
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at the economy, at affordability, at crime, at some of the issues that the conservatives have been very
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good at. But I think there are two things happening that are keeping, that have made people return to
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the liberal fold, as you say, in Ontario, to some extent in Quebec, and even a little bit on the lower
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mainland, although I was in BC on the weekend. And I don't get a sense of a huge liberal swing there.
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I mean, there's been talk of that. Some of the polls show that the Liberals are making a return in Vancouver.
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Yes, they'll probably win more seats than they would have three months ago, but are they going to take 12?
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No, I don't think that's even close. So, I think there's two things that are happening.
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One is that you have a generation of people, of which I am one, people over 50, who have done quite
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well until the last few years. They probably have a house that's paid for. The value of that house has
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doubled or tripled or quadrupled in the time they've owned it. They're finishing their working
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careers or they're already finished their working careers. They have reasonably comfortable retirements.
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If they've been in the public sector, they could have very comfortable retirements
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based on the kinds of pensions that teachers and nurses and bureaucrats and others in the public
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sector get. And they don't want this Trump stuff to mess that up. They worked all their lives to get
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to this point. And they think Carney's the better person for dealing with Trump. Trump is the biggest
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threat to my nest egg, my retirement. So, therefore, I want Carney now. And it's no more, it's no deeper
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than that. There's no more intellect involved in it than that. But I think the other thing that's
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happening is people who have voted liberal most of their lives don't like Pierre Pollion.
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They think he's a frat boy. They think he's smarmy. They think he's the attack dog of the
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conservatives. He was the attack dog for too long. They can't see him now as the prime minister. And
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he does say things every once in a while that would reinforce that impression if you already had that
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impression. You and I might watch a video he puts out and think, hey, that was pretty clever.
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I like that. But he will say the odd thing in those videos, or even his speeches, as clever as
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they might be, that just puts people off. And they were going to go to him until Justin Trudeau
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resigned. They were prepared to put up with their distaste for Polyev, because it was less than their
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disgust for Trudeau. One of the things, and I want this as an aside, one of the things that has
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amazed me, sort of, or something I've clued into during this race is just how hated Justin Trudeau
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was. He leaves, and all of this support surges back to the liberals. It's the same staff. It's the same
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cabinet. It's the same candidates. It's all the same team, but they just changed the one player.
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And he was so hated that the new guy is benefiting tremendously.
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You are so right. I mean, it's what, 87% the same cabinet or whatever.
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First of all, that shows that the cabinet really, I don't think, beyond Chrystia Freeland and maybe
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Bill Blair. I don't know if a lot of people could name members of the cabinet, maybe Melanie Jolie.
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Yeah. And that's about it. I think it was such a one-man show. Power was so centralized around Trudeau
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that I don't think people even really know, like, who's Anita Anand? I don't think most people know.
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And she was very prominent. There are lots of lesser ministers who I can't name.
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But Anand was defense minister for a while. She was president of the Treasury Board. I mean,
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she's been very, very senior. And Trudeau cut her out of the cabinet at one point because
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she was starting to organize a revolt against him. So that's how senior she is. She thought
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she might be the leader someday. And even she can't be named by most people in the country.
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You know, here's what's so amazing is Justin Trudeau was so central to the liberals. And I
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confess, I thought there's no one who could pick up. There was no one in his team who had the
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leadership skills, the political skills. And I think I was right. It was Mark Carney. Not that Carney
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has the skills, but just his presence, this central casting image. But here's something I want to run
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by. Justin Trudeau was the center of this country's federal political scene in terms of its tone,
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its rhetorical style, its smarmy male feminism and wokeness. And he's been gone, I don't know,
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a month? Maybe a month. I'd have to check the exact dates. And when was the last time you saw anyone
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say, hey, what does Justin Trudeau think? Hey, let's ask Trudeau about this. Hey, what's Trudeau up to?
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I saw him pop up in one campaign. You know, he door knocked for one person. But literally no one
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even thinks about him. It's like effervescing. It's like mist. It's like he was a rumor. It's
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like that old Churchill insult. Trudeau showed, an empty cab showed up in Parliament Hill and Justin
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Trudeau stepped out. Don't you think it's remarkable what a nullity he was that no one
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even thinks or talks about him anymore? It's just a matter of days.
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Yeah, exactly. And the thing that that that I take out of that is how many of those people
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in his caucus, in his cabinet, on his staff, knew he was the wrong person for the last year or so,
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but wouldn't say it. It's like it's like all the staff around Joe Biden, when Joe Biden had gone
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gaga. And all of us had all of us knew he was gaga. But they would say, Oh, no, no. And private Joe is
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so sharp. He's so great. Yeah, he he had that horrendous debate against Trump, which really what
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pushed him out last June. And they said, Oh, he wasn't very good, because he'd just come back from an
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overseas trip. And he had a cold. Yeah, no, no. It wasn't. It wasn't a cold. They kept saying, Oh,
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Trudeau is going to be the guy. He's so good. He'll find a way out. No, no. And I think that
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the fact that nobody cares now where he is or what he's doing is proof positive.
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You know, I that's such a good analogy. I remember Stéphane Dion. Remember, he was a liberal
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leader in I think 2008 or something. And he ran on the green shift. And, and Trudeau actually was
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kind to him, give him a plum position in Paris, if I'm not mistaken, which for any Quebecer is the
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dream political assignment for anyone, it would be. I think it was Stéphane Dion who said
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that he only had one, one on one conversation with Trudeau ever. They only really spoke once.
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And, and that was it. Yeah. And, and, and I don't think Stéphane Dion is a liar or a dramatic
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storyteller. Like he's, he's sort of the opposite. He's like a bookish professor, which is what he
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was. Like a senior guy, former leader, cabinet minister, senior diplomat. Trudeau is so uninterested
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in things. He talked to him once. And I've heard that from a number of cabinet ministers. They say that
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some say it in public, like Stéphane Dion wasn't even saying it in an angry way. He was sort of
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saying it in a, wow, that's sort of strange. Trudeau was, he really was as shallow as a puddle.
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And I don't know if you remember, Lauren, in the ethics inquiry, when he went to the Aga Khan's,
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the billionaire island in the Caribbean, he said to the ethics counselor, oh, no, no, no,
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I'm not involved in the details of business. Someone else handles that. I'm just the relationship
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guy. I come in, make sure everyone's feeling good. And then I let the smart guys take over.
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He actually said that as his legal defense, he said, I couldn't have been bribed because I didn't
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even know what the heck they were talking about. I was just. He had two excuses, which was take one
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or the other, but both of them prove I'm innocent. One was the Aga Khan is a lifelong friend and the
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ethics commissioner said, yes, but you haven't talked to him in 30 years. So how lifelong can
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that be? And the other one was, I don't pay attention to the details of my government.
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I believe that one, by the way, I actually believe he doesn't.
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That he hadn't talked to him in 30 years because he hasn't talked to anybody. He doesn't want to.
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I think it was Jane Philpott, who had been a very senior minister and got hunted out when
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Jody Wilson-Raybould got kicked out over the SNC-Lavalin affair. And she said, you know,
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she was health minister. And she said, yeah, I believe I talked to him twice.
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That's incredible. You know, I think I never knew Brian Mulroney. I was too young
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and I was a reform party teenager anyway, so I wouldn't have liked him much. But people who
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knew Brian Mulroney, who knew him, who worked with him, who spoke with him, said that he had
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such a true connection with people, that he would phone them, that he would remember details,
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that they felt a personal bond with him, that they stood with him even in the tough times,
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right to the bitter end. Bill Clinton had the same touch. They said, and I met Brian Mulroney
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once, by the way, when he was retired. And he does have that feeling. He's so bloody charming.
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He makes you embarrassed to hold any animosity towards him. He's passed away now, of course,
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but he had that. And you have to work at that, by the way. You have to have the social energy
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to go into a crowd and to pretend. Maybe he really did care about every single human meeting
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he met, or maybe he just was good at making them feel that way. Bill Clinton, the same way.
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He made you feel like just for that moment, you were the only person in the world.
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Yeah. And Trudeau actually was the opposite. He made you feel like he was the only person in the
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world. Yeah, that's right. And they said that about Sir John A. What was that saying about Sir John A.?
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Or there was some quarrel in Parliament that, I'll have to dig up some more notes. But I think it's
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true. Justin Trudeau was only about himself. The only saying I remember about Sir John A. was he told
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a page one time, fill my glass with gin, but make it look like water.
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My point is, I think that Trudeau, it was sort of a house of cards. It was all illusions based on
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illusions. And everybody sort of thought, well, we don't dare oppose him. But, you know, when you
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finally look behind the curtain, it was, you know, the Wizard of Oz was like, it's just amazing. And I
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don't know what he's going to wind up doing. No company wants him as a director. If anything,
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maybe he'll get a bone thrown to him by some, you know, one of these liberal
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And if you may have noticed, the Trudeau Foundation in Quebec
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And your brother is the executive director. Like,
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That's the most incredible story of the week. It's literally called the Trudeau Foundation.
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But finally, they can clean house from the corruption. And I say that because the brother
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literally accepted a check from communist Chinese, literally went there to take the check.
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It's amazing. I don't, like, I used to think he'd get a retirement outcome from
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Power Corp or the Demaree family. There are some companies that are so large that they'll
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basically say, well, we'll find something to keep you busy and a fake job and a no-show job
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for a million bucks a year. I don't know if you can get that.
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I think somebody will fund him in a fake organization like Mark Carney's Glasgow Financial
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And he'll get to fly around the world and give preachy speeches about, you know, the future
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of saving the planet. Somebody's going to fund an organization like that, which is really just
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a vanity show. And he'll end up doing something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if the World
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It'll be groups like that that aren't real groups.
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Right. Right. Huh. You know, I always thought, you know, if I take away my animosity and my
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disagreement, I always thought that he could or should have been like a mascot-like figure.
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Like someone who, I mean, his father was a prime minister.
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Like something giant and furry that does antics on the sidelines.
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Like more a cheerleader or a pep talker or like a professional booster.
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That was his job, right? Before he went into parliament and for a long time after he was a
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And he would charge organizations $25,000 to $35,000 plus a private plane or a first class
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ticket or in all expenses, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, to come and say, oh, I am so impressed
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by you teachers. You are the foundation of our society.
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And, you know, and he would just go on and on and on like that for half an hour and they'd
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all fall over themselves and say, oh, he's so dreamy, isn't he? Oh my goodness.
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That's what he did, which is exactly what you're mentioning, right?
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Yeah. You know, he did a lot of damage to this country, but he was, but I think it was
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actually others did a lot of damage while he was the lightning rod or the distractor.
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I think we're about, if God forbid Mark Carney is successful, Mark Carney himself will do,
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I've been saying this for a while, Carney is Trudeau 2.0, smarter and harder working and
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much more networked. Like Trudeau would love to travel places for fun and photo ops. Carney
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probably knows more world leaders, probably knows more titans because that was what he did.
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But there's net zero lines to world economics. He didn't wear Indian garb when he last visited
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Modi in India. Yeah. Well, listen, there's still almost two weeks to go. The polls have tightened
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a little bit. I want to ask you one last question from Alberta. I'm a little worried about Ontario,
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but I am worried about Alberta. If Mark Carney wins, especially God forbid, if he wins in a powerful
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way, a working majority, I'm worried that Albertans will say this ain't, there's just no hope here.
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There's no chance. We're robbed again. And Mark Carney is coming to kill us. And I don't know where
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Danielle Smith will, will wind up on this stuff. Cause she said some things that suggest she's open to
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changing Alberta's place in the country. What do you think Alberta will do if Mark Carney,
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Mr. Net Zero wins? I don't, I don't know. There is a strong, and people have been poo-pooing the idea
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of Alberta separation for a couple of weeks. Like all the major commentators have said, oh, it'll never
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work. They've only got 30% support. It's got 30% support without a movement. Yeah. They got 30%
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support without a leader. Yeah. You, you worked for Preston Manning. Yeah. You know what the reform
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party would have been without Manning. Right. And you know what it became with Manning. Right. So if a
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Manning-like figure steps forward to say, I'm quite prepared to lead a separatist or independent
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movement or a nationalist movement or, or a redo confederation movement, that 30%, I think could
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easily become 40 or 45%. And with the right circumstances could get over 50%. And you'll
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remember the Clarity Act says in order to leave, you need a 50% majority on a clear question. Yeah.
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So do I think it's completely out of, out of line? No. Like what would have happened
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in 1989, 1990, if Preston Manning had said the West wants out. Right. Rather than the West
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wants in. Right. We would now have had, either we would have had separation already, or we would
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at least have a very strong independent movement in Alberta. And I think we could get Saskatchewan
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to go with us. Oh yeah. Now I remember you and I a long time ago when we were both much younger
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and not involved in what we're doing now, talking about whether or not we would want Saskatchewan
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because it was leftist and it was who were, I take Saskatchewan in a heartbeat now. It's,
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it's very much like Alberta, culturally, politically. And so, and it has higher,
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it has higher percentages of independent movement or independent support than Alberta does. Alberta,
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because Alberta is well off, reasonably well off, it's, it's a little bit harder to move that needle
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over to separation because are we going to mess up what we've got if we push too hard on it? But I think
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even if it never comes to much of anything, it's good that there is this talk every once in a while,
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because people in Ottawa are going to have to pay attention. Or I think what will happen,
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like so in Quebec says, oh, we're going to hold another referendum. And everybody from Ottawa runs
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over and says, oh, please, please don't do that. What can we give you? Here, here are buckets and
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buckets and buckets of goodies that we're going to give you. Here's a truck. We'll just back the truck up and
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give you more goodies. Yeah. I don't think they would do that with Alberta. No. Oh,
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the opposite. They would call them traitors. Yes. And here's, but that I think would push the
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independence movement even further. You know, if anyone, like right now, the separatist movement is
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led by people who have not a lot of authority, not a lot of status to not household names. They're
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well-meaning folks. Some of them are a little rough around the edges. Um, I do not believe that
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they are the kind of leaders like Preston Manning who could transform things. But I think that whoever
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were to step out, like they went after Preston Manning when he started the West wants in reform
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party, they called him racist. They call them all those things. Any, the way they would go after
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anyone of credibility, they would destroy them because think about what an existential threat,
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you mentioned if Alberta's gone, would Saskatchewan, well, it would be a domino effect. And would the
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North come and really would BC remain cut off and would the rest of Canada, like it would, it would be
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a domino effect of, of redoing Confederation. And by the way, by the end of it, you might actually see
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a 51st and 52nd and 53rd state. I don't know. It would be, Alberta would be a battleground
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for Albertans, but you would see all the deep state, all the media, all the, every single
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establishment institution in the country come to destroy whoever called for separatism.
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But you would also see under the radar, other global forces that want Alberta dislodged. It would,
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Alberta would be a global information battle battleground.
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Take a look in Quebec. Quebec had soft sovereignty for, well, probably since the Lesage government in
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the mid 60s. But as soon as they got René Levesque, who had a profile, who had been a Lesage minister,
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who was an articulate speaker, who was prepared to put himself out there as the head of a, of a
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sovereign test or a separatist movement, they won an election. And, you know, it might start in, in
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Alberta, it might start with one MLA. You might have a, it might be another Kessler, you know, you might,
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you might have that. You might end up with six. You remember that Peter Lougheed's conservative
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government that was in charge for 44 years, started off as an opposition of six.
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Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Well, these are heavy things. And, uh, we'll find out in less than two weeks,
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Lauren. It's great to catch up with you. Thanks for spending so much time with us.
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Right on. Lauren Gunter, senior columnist, Edmonton Sun. That's our show for today.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
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Right now, Mark Carney is a Prime Minister of Canada, but how well do Canadians really know the man that
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just took the top job? He wasn't elected in a traditional way. He didn't rise through Parliament
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with a strong voter base. He was handpicked, a global banker turned climate czar turned political leader.
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A man groomed by the world's financial elite, now leading a country he spent years governing from
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behind the scenes. Carney was the governor of the Bank of Canada, then the Bank of England,
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and a star at the World Economic Forum. The kind of guy you see at a Bilderberg meeting,
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not your local town hall. And here's what no one in the mainstream media is talking about.
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Mark Carney has a association with Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex trafficker. Jeffrey Epstein's right
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hand. And with the federal election coming up in a few weeks, we're asking Canadians today a simple
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question. Do you know who Mark Carney is? And do you know who he really is? What about those kids on
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Epstein Island? Mark Carney, what about the kids on Epstein Island? Canada wants to know. Do you guys know
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who this gentleman is? Not at all. Nope. He's a current Prime Minister of Canada. You do. Is that Mark
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Carney? The Liberal Prime Minister, right? Yes, correct. Yes.
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Party fellow. Tyrant. Fire boy. Awesome. Do you happen to know who this... Sorry, I don't...
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No, no. Down, Sanjay. I don't go for those. Oh, no. You're a brand of evil. Actually, I don't know him,
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but I don't like him anyways. Because he's liberal. I'm not entirely certain about him, other than I know
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he's got a history with Big Bang King. Vigilous. He's better than anything else I've got. How many kids
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didn't even ask Jeffrey Epstein? In our elite... Honestly, honestly, honestly...
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This is the... This is the... This is the product of the division politics.
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And you happen to know that he has an association with Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficker,
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I haven't heard about them. I've heard of Epstein though. Did not know that. No.
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I don't... No? No worries. Yeah, I definitely like that guy anyways.
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I guess I saw those pictures and I saw the footage both of one man and another lady at two different
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get-togethers asking Carney about the situation right in public. I thought it was
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good to put him on the spot. He is not. This is false information.
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You guys are sick. This is an image of them together and... You should be embarrassed.
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The left is so far gone, they're denying the simple picture a fact. Yes, so Ghislaine Maxwell here,
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this is one of his accomplices and she actually got arrested in the United States.
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She was a recruiter, wasn't she? Correct, right. And this is Mark Carney and this is Mark Carney's wife.
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Do you have any sort of concern for this association? I would be, yeah. It's good to know.
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Yeah, I know the connotations of it, that's for sure. Yeah, I got no comment on this.
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What's your basis for believing that it's continuing to go on?
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This image that was taken only a few years ago. Okay, now she's in jail. Yes, this was before, yes.
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Okay. But after the whole scandal with Prince Andrew came out, Mark Carney still attended one
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of the events at the Buckingham Palace. With the prince? With the prince, who was also
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in trouble for being associated with Jeffrey Epstein and all the sex trafficking business.
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So I would regard that as a lapse of judgment. The man was suspected or known to be a sexual offender.
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He was the former governor of the Bank of Canada, the Bank of England. It would have been a lapse of
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judgment for him to maintain an association with someone who was convicted or suspected of being
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a sexual predator. I've seen that one rally or whatever, and they're like, oh, how many kids did
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you touch Epstein? And he laughed like he was a big joke. Like, how did these guys get away with this crap?
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How did this story do you want to get into the jail or don't have to do it?
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Come on. Come on. Come on. And we announced a series of measures
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with respect to online harm and other factors. And one of the observations we had,
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one of the issues we're dealing with, one of them is with respect to really just the sea of
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misogyny, anti-Semitism, hatred, conspiracy theories, this sort of pollution that's online,
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that washes over our virtual borders from the United States. And that's a mild version of that.
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That's fine. I can take the conspiracy theory and all that. But those more serious things is when it
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affects how people behave. Do you have any concern that someone who's leading our country has such
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associations? I don't think I would want somebody to lead the country that had those affiliations,
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you know? There's more concerns than that. There's lots of connections people don't want to talk about,
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but I'm sure over the next couple of weeks, a lot of information is going to come out.
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I'd like to be a firm believer that this man will not be leading our country.
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For all those who can see that this is clearly a problem, you can get your prescription glasses
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right here. I don't think that's any of my business, actually. I mean, I think that if he,
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I mean, we've all made mistakes. And I think that if, I think that maybe high profile people should
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maybe, maybe watch a little bit more. I think it's tough to speak in a topic when you're not
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informed about it. And there's always two different perspectives. So I think until I feel
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like I'm educated on the topic, then no. The question then reduces to what? Would I trust
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him because he's had an association with her? Yes. You know, candidly, to make a reasoned judgment,
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I'd have to know more detail about the extent and the duration of that association.
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Yes. It's a little concerned, but I'm not a big liberal fan in the first place. Yeah.
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So, kind of hoping that we won't have an association this year with the election coming up.
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I think he's a piece of shit. Am I allowed to say that? Absolutely.
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If he gets voted in, I'm out of here, leaving the country.
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Uh-huh. Is this the actual rebel news? Yes. This is the real news? Yes.
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Well, I'm certainly not in support of anything to do with Mark Carney or the Liberals. Yeah,
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he's a globalist. He's not for our country. He's got nothing to do with our country. He,
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he didn't get the title, uh, they used 14 year olds and, and, uh, from what I hear anyway,
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14 year olds and, uh, and people probably weren't even Canadians in the Liberal Party to vote him into
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his position. So he's not, he's not a Canadian. He's never professed to be a Canadian. He's
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always, uh, said that the World Economic Forum, he said he was a, he thought he was a European
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and he hasn't lived here for what, nine years or however many years. So yeah. And all his money's
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going, uh, south, not, not to help Canada. And he, all the things he wouldn't want us to do,
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he's doing with his money. So he's a globalist and he loves the Chinese. He's a 2.0 Trudeau.
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What would you say to those who might say, this is, this is nothing. You know,
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this is just a picture. It doesn't mean anything. What would you say to them?
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That's people who aren't informed about who these people really are. If anybody who thinks
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that all this, uh, sex trafficking and drug trafficking is the little guy, it's not.
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I think they have to give themselves a check and see. Not a good idea. I would say that there's a
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whole bunch of things that are adding up. Uh, not only what you're talking about, but, uh, um,
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a number of different things that I would question his integrity over. Democracy means that everybody
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has a right to choose who they like, uh, whether they've, whether they're been filmed with other
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people or not. If you want to stay updated with all of our election coverage and make sure to head on
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