Rebel News Podcast - July 19, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney opens door to elderly parents and grandparents of third-world immigrants


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A Canadian network has a plan to invite tens of thousands of aging parents and grandparents of third-world immigrants to come to Canada for free healthcare in the winter of their lives. It's an insane idea by Mark Carney, and CTV couldn't be more excited about it.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Just an insane idea by Mark Carney to invite tens of thousands of parents
00:00:07.180 and grandparents of new migrants to come over too. Because apparently there's so much room in 0.76
00:00:13.920 our healthcare system that bringing tens of thousands of people in their 70s, 80s, and 90s
00:00:19.460 to Canada, people who have never spent a dime of taxes here, never built this country, go straight 0.96
00:00:25.360 to the front of the line. Medical migrants is what they are. Apparently that's what Canada needs the 1.00
00:00:30.620 most in 2025. It is shocking. I'll take you through the details. And CTV couldn't be more excited.
00:00:37.620 They're positively erotic about it. But first, let me invite you to get a subscription to what we
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00:01:12.700 Tonight, Mark Carney invites the aging parents and grandparents of third world immigrants to come
00:01:19.460 to Canada for free healthcare. I wish I were joking. It's July 18th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:25.700 You're ready for freedom!
00:01:28.560 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:01:40.560 Look at this story from CTV. The headline,
00:01:44.360 thousands of Canadians to start receiving invitations to apply to sponsor parents and grandparents.
00:01:52.400 Isn't that a funny headline? Canadians sponsoring their parents and grandparents. Sponsoring what?
00:01:58.560 Like in a Terry Fox run or something? Sponsoring like that? You would have no idea what they're
00:02:03.560 actually talking about, which is new immigrants bringing in countless more immigrants in the third
00:02:11.020 world through chain immigration to get free healthcare. None of those words. Immigration, 0.98
00:02:17.260 chain migration, free healthcare. It took a lot of skill to write that CTV headline. Let me read a little
00:02:23.280 bit. Thousands of Canadians will soon receive invitations. That's lovely. To apply to sponsor
00:02:30.120 their parents and grandparents as permanent residents. The 2025 intake will open for a few weeks starting
00:02:36.600 July 28th for 17,860 potential sponsors who submitted an interest to sponsor form in 2020,
00:02:45.460 according to Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship Canada, in a notice published online Wednesday.
00:02:51.360 And incredibly, the CTV story actually has live clickable links on their website to take you
00:02:57.440 straight to the application page that's so helpful to them. They really want you to get this done.
00:03:02.140 And hey guys, even if you're not one of the lucky third worlders, the parents and grandparents who
00:03:08.260 can now come here in the winter of their lives, when healthcare demands are the most acute, don't
00:03:13.120 worry. Mark Carney and CTV are happy to tell you about a scam called super visas. Let me quote,
00:03:21.600 those who don't receive invitations for the 2025 intake can apply for a super visa, a multi-entry visa valid
00:03:30.100 for up to 10 years. The super visa would allow parents and grandparents to stay in the country
00:03:35.960 for five-year periods. Parents and grandparents visiting on a super visa can apply to stay an
00:03:41.840 extra two years at a time while they're still in Canada. So to state the obvious, these are people
00:03:48.640 who have not paid a dime in taxes in Canada in their whole lives. They haven't served the country in
00:03:54.680 any way, let alone in the military. Let's say they're probably in their sixties or seventies or
00:03:59.700 eighties or nineties. Many of them would have acute medical issues because healthcare is very weak in
00:04:06.160 third world countries. They might well have chronic illnesses that have never been treated, undiagnosed
00:04:11.160 illnesses, or simply things that it was impossible for them to afford to get help for. Now, no problem.
00:04:18.280 Just got a super visa and come for a super five-year medical holiday to Canada. Go straight to the front
00:04:24.460 of the line ahead of the people who've been paying into this system their whole lives. Look, we already
00:04:30.720 have a million fake international students here for fake degrees from fake diploma mills. They're in line
00:04:37.120 at hospitals already. Have you ever been to an emergency room these days? But I suppose you could say
00:04:41.860 most of those fake international students are young-ish. What country in the whole world says,
00:04:49.080 no, let's take the world's oldest and sickest people. That's our immigration strategy. 1.00
00:04:57.140 You know, it made me think of something about 50 years ago, 40 years ago, called the
00:05:01.860 Mariel Boat Lift. Do you ever hear of that? It was in the final months of the disastrous
00:05:07.900 Jimmy Carter administration. Fidel Castro in Cuba played a trick on Carter. It was easy to do.
00:05:15.240 Say, oh, do you want us to let Cuban descendants go free? Do you want us to release our political 1.00
00:05:20.260 prisoners? Sure, no problem. But of course, they did something else, didn't they? They emptied their
00:05:27.400 prisons. They emptied their insane asylums. Now, of course, some of the people who came over were
00:05:32.840 legitimate refugees, and some were just ordinary people, some of whom have done very well in Miami,
00:05:37.600 of course. But around 125,000 Cubans and 25,000 Haitians came over in a matter of weeks,
00:05:48.820 just en masse. Of course they weren't vetted. And how would you vet someone that Castro put on a boat
00:05:55.080 to Florida? Here's what the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported. Five years after the Mariel Boat Lift,
00:06:00.820 after the dust had settled a little bit, you can see this old newspaper clipping. Most of the 125,000
00:06:09.320 Mariel refugees who sailed into Key West in the Freedom Flotilla have managed to adapt to American
00:06:16.020 life, starting businesses, marketing their skills, and raising families. But their successes have been
00:06:21.000 overshadowed by the actions of an estimated 16,000 to 20,000 criminals and other misfits who've
00:06:32.980 contributed to an alarming increase in South Florida crime. On any given day, there are 350 to 400 Mariel
00:06:41.240 Cubans in Dade County jails, according to a recent report by the Dade Miami Criminal Justice Council.
00:06:48.960 20,000 criminals! Off of Castro's hands, out of Castro's jails, out of Castro's hair, and into Miami.
00:07:00.420 It was such a shock to the system. Perhaps you've seen that old Al Pacino movie called Scarface,
00:07:05.920 about a couple of drug dealers who sneaked into Florida amongst the refugees. The Mariel Boat Lift 0.99
00:07:11.480 was a trick that Castro played on Carter. America was humiliated, of course. It was one reason
00:07:17.320 why Ronald Reagan won in a landslide later that year. But this new Carney Boat Lift, this Mark Carney
00:07:24.460 invitation to bring aging and infirm parents and grandparents over for a medical holiday at our
00:07:30.880 expense, what do you call that? That's not a trick played by foreigners against us. That's
00:07:35.680 Carney. I mean, Castro meant to harm America. What's Carney's excuse? Yes, sorry, these are not
00:07:42.220 refugees. They aren't students. They aren't workers. They aren't business starters. This is Canada or Mark 1.00
00:07:49.800 Carney. I don't know who made the decision deciding that we're not crowded enough. We're not overburdened
00:07:54.480 enough. We're not poor enough. We need tens of thousands more Q-jumpers. Oh, and by the way, 1.00
00:07:59.540 have you heard a peep about this from Pierre Polyev yet? Let me end with an interesting note. You may
00:08:07.120 have seen my interview yesterday with Kalam Dara about Afghanistan now being run by the Taliban and
00:08:12.240 what that's like. I was shocked when he told me that someone wanted to talk to him. I'm from Canada,
00:08:17.080 too. It was interesting to hear his stories in any event, but against the news that the British
00:08:22.040 government secretly sneaked in tens of thousands of Afghan soldiers on secret flights and got a court
00:08:28.620 to impose a super injunction so no one could even talk about it. That was nuts. Here's another news
00:08:34.320 item that came out since then. This was just today. Vast majority of Afghans on kill list were bogus 1.00
00:08:42.520 asylum seekers. Sources reveal as few as one in 16 people identified in the data breach had genuine
00:08:49.920 claims for resettlement. You don't say. It's almost as if the super injunction had nothing to do with
00:08:56.920 security or safety, but everything to do with politics and covering up government incompetence
00:09:01.800 and malice. But look at this story. Just today, which goes back to something that Kalam said,
00:09:09.220 Germany deports Afghans after a striking deal with Taliban. Flight understood to be part of Qatar
00:09:16.200 mediated deal as country cracks down on mass migration. Now, the new chancellor in Germany is
00:09:22.460 trying to outflank the alternative for Deutschland. He sees the rising movement of the populist rights,
00:09:28.520 so I think he's trying to get a little tougher than Angela Merkel. I'll read a little bit from the story.
00:09:33.820 Germany has deported dozens of Afghans back to Kabul, including sex offenders and violent criminals,
00:09:40.240 as part of an indirect deal with the Taliban. Early on Friday morning, 81 Afghan citizens,
00:09:45.360 including some criminal convictions, were loaded onto a Qatar Airways flight at Leipzig Airport.
00:09:52.240 The flight is understood to be part of a Qatar mediated deal between the German government and
00:09:56.520 the Taliban, which could lead to regular deportation flights. They're sending them back. They're
00:10:01.960 re-migrating them. Germany is. At least 81 so far. That's a start. They needed a middleman, 0.99
00:10:08.300 Qatar, which is a terrorist-friendly country, as you may know, because Germany itself doesn't have
00:10:12.640 official relations with the Taliban, which run Afghanistan again, but now with American weapons.
00:10:18.800 But who cares? Get them out. Re-migration. Just get them out. Whatever it takes. 1.00
00:10:22.440 If Germany can do it, the UK can do it. And if the UK can do it, Canada can do it.
00:10:28.420 But like I say, who will call for it? Will Canada's conservatives?
00:10:33.120 Stay with us for more.
00:10:45.120 Oh, hey, I was going to interview someone in this segment, but there was a video I just wanted
00:10:48.560 to show you. You know, it's sports season, summertime in Canada. People get outside,
00:10:53.640 play soccer, play football, play rugby. And if there's girl sports, don't be surprised if 0.64
00:10:59.640 there's men trying to cheat by playing against the girls on the girls' teams. And there's really
00:11:07.000 only one reporter in Canada who has the courage to talk about such things. It's my friend and
00:11:11.620 colleague, David Menzies. Here's his latest about men playing girls' rugby. Take a look.
00:11:20.040 David Menzies for Rebel News here at Eglinton Flats in Toronto. And folks, it's deja vu all over again,
00:11:28.300 at least when it comes to female rugby. We were tipped off by those in the rugby community that there 0.99
00:11:34.220 is a gender-bending male grifter here today. His name is Chloe Yorg. And evidently, this is quite a
00:11:43.580 bruiser. We had some footage of Chloe sent along to us. Check out this play. 1.00
00:11:52.380 Isn't that amazing? Look at the strength. Look at the speed.
00:11:58.300 How about looking at the genitals, perhaps? Maybe there's some Y-chromosomes in there. 0.91
00:12:04.220 Look at the speed. Look at the speed. How about looking at the genitals, perhaps? Maybe there's some Y-chromosomes in there. 0.99
00:12:14.300 Maybe that's why Chloe goes through other players, like a knife through butter. But in any event, we're going to observe the game. And then after, we're going to scrum Chloe Yorg. 1.00
00:12:30.300 We're going to see what Mr. Yorg has to say. We know from doing a similar assignment two years ago this month, as a matter of fact, in Fergus, when we tried to get Ash Davis to weigh in.
00:12:46.300 Well, the video speaks volumes. Check it out. Why are you doing this? I'm David Menzies of Rebel News.
00:13:04.300 Hi. No, you're not really a part of this. We're having a team chat now.
00:13:08.300 OK, I'm just trying to ask some questions, ma'am.
00:13:10.300 Sorry, but that's not the appropriate time for that.
00:13:12.300 Why are you allowing a biological male to compete against female players? 0.85
00:13:15.300 I'm not going to have a conversation with you.
00:13:17.300 OK, well, talk to Ash then. Ash, do you take joy in injuring female rugby players? 0.76
00:13:25.300 Are you lacking the skills to play with male players where you should be?
00:13:29.300 You're a biological male, aren't you?
00:13:31.300 I got you. I got you.
00:13:33.300 Right here. Thank you, sir.
00:13:35.300 Mr. Ash, are you a misogynist?
00:13:37.300 Thank you. Are you coming with me?
00:13:38.300 No, please, leave my mouth.
00:13:41.300 Hey, watch it. You'll be charged with assault.
00:13:43.300 Get a child. Would you mind leaving?
00:13:47.300 Mr. Ash, the governing body for rugby, world rugby, says men should not compete.
00:13:53.300 Trans lives matter.
00:13:55.300 Wow, really?
00:13:56.300 All lives matter.
00:13:57.300 All lives matter.
00:13:59.300 All lives matter.
00:14:01.300 All lives matter.
00:14:03.300 Human rights matter.
00:14:05.300 You don't have a problem.
00:14:06.300 You can leave now.
00:14:07.300 Thank you, sir.
00:14:08.300 Thank you.
00:14:09.300 This is a human rights issue.
00:14:11.300 OK, then.
00:14:12.300 We live in Canada.
00:14:13.300 All rights.
00:14:14.300 Human rights for everybody.
00:14:16.300 Trans matter.
00:14:17.300 What about the...
00:14:18.300 Trans rights matter.
00:14:20.300 Yeah, so all of the females, the real biological females on the field that day were hystericals. 1.00
00:14:28.300 Two of them are actually crying.
00:14:30.300 I think that speaks volumes about the indoctrination, the fact that we're the bad guys for standing up for females and female sports and female shelters and female prisons.
00:14:44.300 Because these people, in the name of diversity, they are welcoming in a male invader to their safe spaces. Unbelievable. 0.94
00:14:53.300 Anyways, my cameraman, Efren Monsanto and I, we're going to sit down.
00:14:56.300 We're going to watch the game.
00:14:58.300 And then we're going to try to get some answers afterwards.
00:15:14.300 Take it out!
00:15:21.300 You're so sorry!
00:15:22.300 You're so sorry!
00:15:23.300 Don't touch them!
00:15:24.300 So, no, we're all nice of my friends.
00:15:27.300 Mr. York,
00:15:28.300 can I ask you,
00:15:29.300 why are you playing with the ladies? 0.95
00:15:31.300 Sorry.
00:15:32.300 David Menzies with Rebel News.
00:15:34.300 Sorry, can you...
00:15:35.300 Sorry.
00:15:36.300 Yeah, can you get off?
00:15:37.300 Oh, just...
00:15:38.300 No, we don't want to.
00:15:39.300 It means no.
00:15:40.300 That's the boundary.
00:15:41.300 We said no.
00:15:42.300 Goodbye.
00:15:43.300 World Rugby rules says no to men playing with women.
00:15:48.400 Can you answer for yourself, Mr. Yorg?
00:15:51.040 Can you please?
00:15:52.080 We don't want to talk.
00:15:53.080 We don't want to do anything.
00:15:53.920 He hasn't said anything.
00:15:54.920 I'm talking to him.
00:15:55.780 She has not.
00:15:56.680 She doesn't want to talk to you. 0.99
00:15:57.740 OK.
00:15:58.240 So please get off.
00:15:59.080 How do I know that?
00:16:00.080 Because she said no.
00:16:01.360 Goodbye.
00:16:01.860 Can you read her body language?
00:16:03.620 She doesn't want to talk to you. 0.99
00:16:04.320 I'm in a public park right now.
00:16:05.660 OK.
00:16:06.160 We are saying no.
00:16:07.300 No means no.
00:16:08.300 Leave. 0.99
00:16:08.900 OK.
00:16:09.900 Are you not concerned that he's taking away a spot
00:16:13.060 from a real woman?
00:16:14.060 We're not concerned about her.
00:16:15.660 That's a biological male, isn't it, ma'am?
00:16:17.300 Please get off.
00:16:18.700 Leave. 0.99
00:16:19.300 Leave. 0.99
00:16:20.300 Yeah, we're not going to do this today, guys.
00:16:22.940 Oh, OK.
00:16:23.640 We're not doing this today, thank you.
00:16:24.780 But World Rugby says this is against the rules.
00:16:27.700 You don't care what the international governing body has
00:16:30.040 to say?
00:16:30.440 We will launch you here on the sidelines.
00:16:32.280 Please exit go.
00:16:33.120 I don't think so.
00:16:33.780 OK.
00:16:34.780 Hey, hey.
00:16:35.720 Now we got an umbrella.
00:16:36.820 Where is the ref?
00:16:37.860 Why isn't the ref enforcing World Rugby rules?
00:16:40.820 Spectators need to be on the far side.
00:16:43.020 That's a fair question.
00:16:44.120 Spectators need to be on the far side of the field.
00:16:45.860 How is it not?
00:16:46.620 We're not doing this.
00:16:47.420 I do need you on the other side of the field.
00:16:48.620 Well, who are you?
00:16:49.620 I need you on the other side of the field.
00:16:50.820 We are having spectators on that side.
00:16:53.200 Are you ?
00:16:54.240 Mr. York, would you like to comment, please?
00:16:56.560 I think you also need to keep going,
00:16:58.400 because there are some minors here. 0.96
00:16:59.700 Chloe.
00:17:00.200 OK.
00:17:01.040 Chloe, that way. 0.98
00:17:01.940 Chloe.
00:17:03.180 Boy, you females are really indoctrinated, aren't you? 1.00
00:17:06.020 Why is Mr. York a coward?
00:17:07.820 Why won't he come on camera?
00:17:09.340 I'm a media.
00:17:09.880 Pardon me?
00:17:10.720 I'm a media, too, if you want.
00:17:11.820 Oh, OK, then.
00:17:12.920 I can do bad advice for you if you want, so get out.
00:17:16.500 Why get out?
00:17:17.360 I'm in a public park.
00:17:18.420 Get out.
00:17:19.000 We have a game to play.
00:17:20.100 Hey, get your hands off of me. 1.00
00:17:22.640 This isn't a rugby game.
00:17:23.760 Get out.
00:17:24.460 You touch me again, I'm going to call the cops.
00:17:26.040 Get out.
00:17:26.640 You're also shoving him into the space.
00:17:27.700 Who are you?
00:17:28.200 Get out.
00:17:28.980 Please.
00:17:29.840 Are you the coach?
00:17:30.840 Are you the coach?
00:17:31.440 Search on the media.
00:17:31.940 Search on the media, I'm going to see.
00:17:33.280 So, sir, are you the coach of the Toronto Nomads?
00:17:36.080 I'm one of them, yeah.
00:17:36.980 OK, then.
00:17:37.880 How do you feel about this, that this team, Scarborough,
00:17:41.780 is using a man?
00:17:43.420 Isn't that unfair?
00:17:48.300 I'm not too concerned about it.
00:17:51.360 Well, World Rugby, your international governing body,
00:17:54.040 is concerned about it.
00:17:55.360 They say that men cannot play with females.
00:17:59.440 Yeah, sure.
00:18:00.600 OK, so why are we watching the rules being broken here?
00:18:05.480 That's not the rules in this league, so.
00:18:08.400 Oh, you're not under the auspices
00:18:10.840 of the international governing body?
00:18:14.180 Ontario Rugby.
00:18:15.840 How do your female players feel about going up against a man? 1.00
00:18:21.180 I don't know.
00:18:21.880 I can't speak for them, and you can't speak to them, so.
00:18:24.360 We see an invasion of female. 1.00
00:18:25.720 You're just a bigot.
00:18:27.300 Oh, how am I a bigot, sir?
00:18:28.900 How are you a bigot?
00:18:29.700 Yeah.
00:18:30.200 You're not allowing people to be part of team sport
00:18:34.840 in a place where they're comfortable?
00:18:36.700 Then why isn't he with the men's team?
00:18:38.280 Team sport?
00:18:39.180 Amateur's team sport, where they're comfortable?
00:18:41.320 He's not excluded.
00:18:42.220 There's a men's team, right?
00:18:43.940 That's not the point.
00:18:44.940 I'm telling you, they're comfortable out here.
00:18:46.880 They're happily playing a sport with other people
00:18:49.580 who are happy to play with them.
00:18:50.920 And what the business is it of yours?
00:18:52.720 Sir, t'was ever thus that the sports,
00:18:54.600 with the exception of equestrian and auto racing,
00:18:57.360 have been divided by the sexes.
00:18:59.220 This is a full-contact sport, and you have no problem with a biological man.
00:19:02.720 Everything we used to do is definitely what we should do always forever?
00:19:04.720 That's what you're suggesting?
00:19:05.720 For safety reasons, yes.
00:19:07.220 Really?
00:19:08.220 Yeah.
00:19:08.720 Really?
00:19:09.220 Yeah.
00:19:10.220 What about Mr. York?
00:19:11.220 Can they do that to Mr. York?
00:19:12.220 I don't know who this Mr. York is.
00:19:13.220 Number 19, sir.
00:19:13.720 Couldn't care less.
00:19:14.720 You couldn't care less?
00:19:15.720 Go yourself.
00:19:16.720 Go yourself, you prick. 0.99
00:19:17.720 Who are you?
00:19:18.720 You're just giving them content.
00:19:19.720 Fuck off.
00:19:20.720 Huh?
00:19:21.720 Oh, that's not very ladylike.
00:19:22.720 You got nothing to do with this.
00:19:23.720 Don't touch me.
00:19:24.720 All you're trying to do is antagonize people and get them into arguments.
00:19:26.220 No, I'm just trying to get them to follow the rules of world rugby, sir.
00:19:27.220 All you know, what do you know about world rugby?
00:19:29.220 I know that's a rule.
00:19:30.220 Men can't play with women. 1.00
00:19:31.220 What do you know?
00:19:32.220 Who are you?
00:19:33.220 Who are you?
00:19:33.720 Who are you?
00:19:34.720 The only time these rugby players got passionate was when they were physically assaulting us
00:19:53.720 and even grabbing the phone of my cameraman from Monsanto and throwing it into the bushes.
00:20:01.720 We retrieved it.
00:20:03.220 Why aren't they passionate about following world rugby rules?
00:20:07.720 You saw I was speaking to that coach who has no problem and he appears to be the coach of the Toronto Nomads,
00:20:16.220 the team that just got smoked, by the way, by the Scarborough Aces.
00:20:21.220 He has no problem.
00:20:22.220 He called me a bigot.
00:20:23.720 You know what I think a bigot is?
00:20:25.220 I think a bigot is breaking the rules to allow a biological male to compete and injure
00:20:31.220 biological females. 1.00
00:20:32.720 And what I say is this.
00:20:35.720 Where are the feminists when it comes to this egregious and outrageous stance we have? 1.00
00:20:42.720 Where are the rugby officials?
00:20:43.720 Well, I think they're all in when it comes to radical transgenderism. 0.98
00:20:48.720 And it is amazing.
00:20:51.220 We are seeing blowback against Transanity, as I call it, in the UK, in the US.
00:20:59.220 Remember back in February where President Donald Trump, via executive order, restored Title IX.
00:21:05.220 But in Canada, it's alive and well.
00:21:08.720 I should point out, and I think this speaks volumes.
00:21:12.720 If you look closely at the jerseys of the Toronto Nomads, on one side, there is the Pride Progress flag.
00:21:22.720 Now, why would that be?
00:21:23.720 Why is a rugby team wearing the Pride Progress flag in July of all times?
00:21:30.220 I mean, Pride Month was in June.
00:21:32.220 This sport, at least in Ontario, at least in Canada, has been colonized.
00:21:37.220 I think that there is so much indoctrination that they're all in.
00:21:43.720 And two things come to mind.
00:21:45.720 First of all, this garbage ends tomorrow.
00:21:50.720 If all those players on the Toronto Nomads and all the female players on the Scarborough Aces 0.97
00:21:57.720 take a knee and refuse to get on the field, right?
00:22:01.720 They won't do that.
00:22:02.720 The second thing is, as you can see, folks,
00:22:05.720 the most passionate people here about allowing a gender-bending male grifter 0.98
00:22:12.220 to take the field against females are women. 1.00
00:22:16.220 You know, this isn't on men.
00:22:18.220 I mean, that coach might be one of the exceptions,
00:22:21.220 but this is on women actually going to bat to allow the fox into the hen house. 1.00
00:22:29.220 And I got to wonder, maybe he's right.
00:22:31.220 Why am I so passionate about this?
00:22:33.220 I don't have daughters.
00:22:34.220 I'm not involved in any kind of rugby program.
00:22:38.720 And clearly, the people here don't want a white knight coming to their rescue.
00:22:45.720 It looks like this province, this country, is so indoctrinated
00:22:51.720 that allowing misogyny on the pitch is actually considered to be a good thing.
00:22:58.720 Unbelievable.
00:22:59.720 For Rebel News, I'm David the Men's White Menzies.
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00:23:27.720 Hey, I want to tell you about one more thing that we've started.
00:23:29.720 You may recall that we just launched something called The Buffalo.
00:23:33.720 So once a week, we're going to have Western-themed live stream.
00:23:37.220 Well, today, we started something called Rebel Roundtable.
00:23:40.220 That's a great name.
00:23:42.220 And every week, we're going to have a couple of panelists from other media,
00:23:47.220 other independent media, other citizen journalists,
00:23:50.220 other people with our point of view who just don't work for Rebel.
00:23:53.220 So every week, we'll have two Rebels and two new panelists.
00:23:57.720 Today was the first day.
00:23:58.720 Let me leave you with an excerpt of Rebel Roundtable.
00:24:05.720 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
00:24:07.720 You have tuned into the Rebel News Roundup panel.
00:24:12.720 Yes, you heard me.
00:24:13.720 It's something new, and we think it's improved.
00:24:16.720 On this, a Friday, July 18th, 2025, I'm David Menzies.
00:24:21.220 I'll be joined by my beloved co-host, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:24:25.220 And we have two extra special guests with us today.
00:24:28.220 In studio with me is Richard Serrett.
00:24:31.720 He is the host of the Richard Serrett Show.
00:24:37.220 Fancy that.
00:24:38.220 What a coincidence.
00:24:39.220 Also out West, we have Rod Giltaka.
00:24:42.220 He is the CEO of the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights.
00:24:46.720 He's also a radio and podcast host.
00:24:49.720 And quite frankly, it's new and improved.
00:24:52.720 Like I said, folks, hopefully improved.
00:24:54.720 We really don't know what we're doing today,
00:24:57.720 but here's the good news.
00:24:58.720 We're not flying a jet craft.
00:25:00.720 We're just broadcasting.
00:25:02.720 So if anything goes off the rails, no harm done.
00:25:06.220 So without further ado, I want to say hello to Sheila.
00:25:11.720 Sheila, somewhere north of Edmonton, Alberta.
00:25:15.720 Yes, it is possible.
00:25:17.220 As well as Rod and in studio, Richard Serrett.
00:25:22.220 Thank you all for being part of this brand new panel discussion.
00:25:26.220 Yeah, it's exciting.
00:25:27.220 We sort of tested this out on Wednesday
00:25:29.220 and I described it very much similarly to how you described it.
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00:26:17.220 So that's it, David.
00:26:18.720 I'll turn this over to you because I think we only have our guests for about half an hour.
00:26:23.220 And I think we want to be conscious of their time.
00:26:26.220 I think today's panel is going to be about crime and how the Liberals have failed in their efforts to,
00:26:34.220 well, have they made actually any real efforts besides coming after the wrong people in the last 10 years?
00:26:39.220 Sounds like they're going to do more of the same.
00:26:41.220 So we've got some clips and I think we'll be responding to those.
00:26:44.220 But I'll turn it over to you, David.
00:26:46.220 No, you are so right, Sheila.
00:26:48.220 The headline du jour is Canada's crime wave is increasing under liberal rule.
00:26:55.220 Knock me down with a feather.
00:26:57.220 So much for elbows up.
00:26:58.220 It's more like hands up if you're lucky on the streets of our great dominion.
00:27:03.220 Why don't we throw guys to a clip of Prime Minister Carney responding to this whole idea of violent offenders?
00:27:14.220 Well, basically, the police threw no fault of their own.
00:27:18.220 It's really the courts.
00:27:19.220 It's catch and release, isn't it?
00:27:21.220 As soon as they're picked up, they go through a revolving door at the at the courthouse.
00:27:27.220 And Mr Carney was asked a question about this.
00:27:30.220 Let's see what he had to say.
00:27:32.220 And let's see if anyone's buying what he's trying to sell.
00:27:36.220 Hi, my name is Simone Gavros.
00:27:38.220 I'm with CHCH News.
00:27:39.220 My question is more of a local question about crime.
00:27:42.220 Within the last few months, two random innocent bystanders were killed in two separate shootings.
00:27:48.220 And in the latest shooting on Friday, that suspect is a 17 year old who police are still looking for.
00:27:54.220 There's also a lot of concern when it comes to repeat offenders.
00:27:57.220 My question to you today is what is your government doing to keep communities, including Hamilton, safe when it comes to gun violence?
00:28:04.220 Thank you very much for the question.
00:28:06.220 And my sincere condolences for the victims of this, the direct victims of these crimes, their families.
00:28:13.220 But also for the communities and the concern and anxiety that horrible crimes like this create.
00:28:26.220 One of the things the federal government is doing, and we are making a huge emphasis on this, is to control our border better.
00:28:34.220 Because I suspect, and we'll see when this individual is caught, that that gun came from the United States.
00:28:44.220 The vast majority of firearms, illegal firearms, firearms using crime, come across our border.
00:28:52.220 And so what we've been doing in recent months is making very large investments in controlling those borders much better.
00:29:01.220 We have to do more, but we're talking thousands more of CBSA border service agents.
00:29:07.220 We're talking drone surveillance, helicopter surveillance.
00:29:10.220 Working more closely with the United States on both sides of the border, both elements of the border, including addressing the scourge of fentanyl.
00:29:19.220 The second aspect to your question, which your question touches on, and the tragic situations touched on, is bail reform.
00:29:28.220 And the importance of bail reform, particularly with respect to repeat offenders.
00:29:32.220 We have commitments on that.
00:29:34.220 We're working with the provinces on those issues.
00:29:37.220 I'll be meeting with the premiers next week.
00:29:39.220 I'm sure that's one of the elements that we will discuss.
00:29:41.220 And you can expect legislation from this government in the fall.
00:29:46.220 No, we've got to go to Rod on this one, because I can see him nodding.
00:29:52.220 And I think he's having the exact same thoughts I'm having about this stuff.
00:29:56.220 Go ahead, Rod.
00:29:58.220 I think I know exactly what you're going to say, but maybe you'll surprise me.
00:30:01.220 Well, I think we would all be surprised if the Liberals actually did anything, right?
00:30:05.220 Right.
00:30:06.220 We've had 10 straight years of rhetoric about victims and condolences and all the rest of that stuff.
00:30:11.220 And the Liberals, I don't mean to be partisan, it's just a fact.
00:30:14.220 They've unleashed a crime wave and a wave of violence, unlike anything we've ever seen in the history of the country.
00:30:20.220 So there is a little bit of signaling that's been going on with Carney and the rest of the Liberals,
00:30:25.220 that they may take their foot off the gas on on persecuting licensed gun owners
00:30:32.220 and pursuing only licensed gun owners firearms while leaving criminals alone.
00:30:36.220 But I guess we'll have to we'll have to see.
00:30:38.220 And certainly legislation that puts repeat offenders behind bars or worse, in my opinion, would be welcome.
00:30:45.220 I just want to I just want to jump in because you know how I love guns.
00:30:50.220 But it is interesting to hear the Liberals finally admit that the majority of crime guns are coming across the border that the Liberals have left basically like a sieve.
00:31:00.220 It's a rare moment of honesty, but will they stop pursuing us? I don't know.
00:31:05.220 I don't know. There's there's a there's a real good case right now for the Liberals in the position they're in to roll out grandfathering.
00:31:14.220 And so a lot of gun owners would be like, that's not good enough. I want all the bands gone.
00:31:18.220 These people are not going to stop the bands.
00:31:20.220 We're going to be very fortunate if they if they don't move forward with the with the buyback.
00:31:26.220 But there are a lot of good reasons for Carney to start the pivot.
00:31:30.220 And this is sort of what I'm I'm hoping is actually happening the pivot away from licensed gun owners, because this, you know, for a buyback, they're going to spend probably five billion dollars when the country can least afford it.
00:31:41.220 Which, of course, blows up all of his his fiscal aspirations.
00:31:45.220 At the same time, he wants to stop the division because the division is going to cost the Liberals probably two provinces in the next few years if they don't turn it around.
00:31:54.220 Like there's a lot at stake for him to back off on on a variety of different things, energy, right, stopping energy projects, but guns, too.
00:32:02.220 So if they stop harassing us, let us use our firearms, even if they don't allow more in the country, save all that money, turn on on, you know, on the criminals.
00:32:13.220 They could really pull their their reputation out of the fire.
00:32:16.220 Not that I'm advocating for them, but that's a real that's a real option they have in front of them.
00:32:20.220 You know, Rod, if I may have a follow up question for you, and then I want to get to Richard Serrett here.
00:32:25.220 I was astonished to build on Sheila's point.
00:32:29.220 There was some incredibly unvarnished honesty in Prime Minister Carney's remark, that being his speculation that this was probably an illegal gun from the United States.
00:32:43.220 Isn't he making your point?
00:32:45.220 Isn't he making the point of responsible gun owners for more than a decade now in Canada?
00:32:51.220 These liberals have been going after, oh, I don't know, Saskatchewan duck hunters, whereas gangbangers in the inner city are getting out on parole with charges as severe as attempted murder.
00:33:07.220 So when he said this was probably an illegal gun, haven't, Rod, you and your ilk been saying that for more than a decade now?
00:33:16.220 Well, not only us, but police forces from across the country, including the National Police Federation, right?
00:33:22.220 The union that that represents the largest single police force in the world, which I think is the RCMP.
00:33:27.220 They have around 20,000 officers in their union.
00:33:31.220 They said the same thing.
00:33:32.220 They said the same thing on May 1, 2020.
00:33:34.220 Well, whatever, right?
00:33:35.220 A week later about this, the bans.
00:33:39.220 So it's not just us.
00:33:41.220 It's funny.
00:33:42.220 When police forces across the country are using the gun lobby's talking points, so to speak, you know, you should probably look into it because something's a little weird there.
00:33:52.220 Wow.
00:33:53.220 So, Richard, to Rod's point, do you think this is the beginning of a pivot of the liberal government?
00:34:00.220 They're maybe going to get away from this egregious and outrageous gun grab going after legal and responsible citizens who are hunters, sport shooters.
00:34:12.220 And they are finally recognizing the problem that the vast majority of gun crime is being committed by criminals that don't register their guns in the first place.
00:34:24.220 Fancy that.
00:34:25.220 Well, one would hope this is a pivot.
00:34:27.220 If it were coming from any other party, I might be willing to, you know, accept that.
00:34:33.220 But this is this is the Liberal Party.
00:34:36.220 Ten years.
00:34:37.220 Tell people what they want to hear and then do whatever you want anyway.
00:34:41.220 It's this this is just a part of this mass demoralization program that they have been involved in for the last decade on the campaign trail that sometimes occasionally will sound reasonable and conciliatory.
00:34:55.220 And then they'll just they'll pivot the other way.
00:34:59.220 So it's very hard to take anything this character says at face value.
00:35:04.220 Yes, he's talking the talk.
00:35:05.220 I mean, I was listening to those words, this robotic performance.
00:35:10.220 It's like he's trying his best to to behave like a human being, like insert trite apology or condolences here.
00:35:20.220 I just I can't take this individual seriously.
00:35:23.220 So and this idea of, you know, more drones and more helicopters, you're not going to you're not going to find illegal guns with helicopters or drones.
00:35:33.220 You've got to look into container ships, container compartments and so forth and trains.
00:35:40.220 And let's be honest, this is the tough one.
00:35:42.220 You have to be willing to concede that a lot of these guns are being smuggled across Indian reservations.
00:35:48.220 Are they going to are they going to clamp down there?
00:35:50.220 I hardly doubt it.
00:35:51.220 You know, that's 100 percent true.
00:35:53.220 And of course, we know I can tell you from Indian reserves in Ontario, Brantford for comes to mind.
00:36:02.220 Every single rule in the Smoke Free Ontario Act is broken.
00:36:07.220 Sales to minors, signage, people smoking indoors, you name it.
00:36:13.220 It's a hands off situation.
00:36:16.220 The OPP will not go into it.
00:36:19.220 And Ron, to Richard's point, that is a fact that guns are being smuggled through native reserves.
00:36:27.220 But is this a third rail issue for the government and law enforcement when it comes to doing something tangible to stop the illegal gun trade?
00:36:38.220 Well, it's it's it's funny because we are our political adversaries and including the Liberal Party under certainly under Justin Trudeau for a decade, had everything at stake was we have to somehow tie licensed gun owners to our failures on public safety.
00:36:55.220 So that's been going on forever. And I mean, to admit, I'm extremely cynical after having to witness this federal government for 10 years straight. Right.
00:37:06.220 Right. But I think I think Carney, he he ran on, you know, like now this boss is not the same as the old boss.
00:37:14.220 We all have our opinions about that, of course. Right.
00:37:17.220 But he has done a few things like he didn't oppose the by-election in in in Alberta for Pierre Polyev.
00:37:23.220 He's talking about doing things differently. Now he's taking this approach, pivoting away.
00:37:28.220 If he cancels the buyback and does grandfathering, which we're encouraging them to do, because we have to at least keep possession as a first phase of those firearms, of the first phase of our plan, we have to keep them.
00:37:40.220 If he does things like that, then, you know, he might be and I'm not holding out any hope.
00:37:45.220 Look at what they do, not what they say. But he might be thinking, I'm going to come up the middle.
00:37:51.220 So I'm going to do a couple of things, roll back a few things over here.
00:37:54.220 I don't know if you do that with energy and that's critically important for Canada, but you never know.
00:37:59.220 We might get something out of him. But just just because he wants to survive, maybe look at a majority in two years or 18 months.
00:38:06.220 We'll see. But it's it's it's a strange time in Canadian politics for sure.
00:38:11.220 What about that, Sheila? Is the prime minister maybe doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, i.e. future political gain?
00:38:20.220 Yeah, I think I mean, I don't think it's going to save any sort of hard feelings in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
00:38:28.220 I think the chip might have already sailed. I mean, it doesn't matter.
00:38:34.220 It doesn't matter what the liberals are selling to Westerners. They're just not going to buy it.
00:38:38.220 But it might sort of bring some of those disaffected people back into the liberal fold.
00:38:45.220 I can see him doing that in efforts to regain a majority in three or four years or whenever that is.
00:38:53.220 Hey, let's move ahead to this clip out of looks like Brampton.
00:38:59.220 No, knock me down with a feather. There's crime in Brampton. 0.91
00:39:02.220 It's from Canadian Crime Watch. It's a shooting. You know what?
00:39:08.220 And what is so startling about this clip is that it's not all that alarming anymore because we seem to have.
00:39:15.220 I mean, I did it again before I jumped on air. I Googled Toronto shooting.
00:39:20.220 And then there's like four different ones that come up just over the last 24 hours.
00:39:26.220 And so this is becoming routine in parts of the country where we see these shootings caught on film and then they're just broadcast.
00:39:36.220 And I start to lose track of which shooting I'm watching.
00:39:40.220 But this is at a Brampton caught on video July 11th.
00:39:43.220 Two suspects approach a home before one of them opens fire.
00:39:50.220 Raw daylight. Holy cow.
00:39:55.220 Unbelievable. But you know, not really, Sheila. You know, Richard, I want you to weigh in on this.
00:40:14.220 As Sheila referenced, the idea of this having not under cloak of night, but in broad daylight, it looks literally like high noon.
00:40:23.220 Look how brazen they are, especially in this day and age.
00:40:26.220 You know that maybe half the homes have security cameras.
00:40:31.220 And there's the proof in the pudding right there.
00:40:34.220 And Brampton, for goodness sakes, even the mayor, sneaky Patrick Brown, he's under 24 seven police protection.
00:40:40.220 If there was ever an argument for bail reform, parole reform, isn't that it?
00:40:50.220 Well, let's not jump to conclusions.
00:40:51.220 You know, in some cultures that he may have been celebrating a wedding.
00:40:55.220 So, you know, let's just not jump to conclusions.
00:41:00.220 Yes.
00:41:01.220 Shame on me.
00:41:02.220 You know, in fairness, that could be my culture.
00:41:04.220 How far back?
00:41:05.220 I mean, where do we start?
00:41:09.220 I mean, yes, we can we can change bail reform.
00:41:13.220 Let's just, you know, rip up the entire 10 years of liberal faux pas when it comes to, you know, the judicial system.
00:41:22.220 Once we correct that, then we have these incredibly morally obtuse judges to deal with.
00:41:28.220 So this is not an easy fix.
00:41:30.220 And it's not just about bail reform.
00:41:33.220 It's about, dare I say, immigration reform.
00:41:36.220 It's about bail reform.
00:41:38.220 It's about far be it for me to agree with with Doug Ford.
00:41:43.220 But, you know, the instituting a castle law in this in this country and dealing with, you know, the way that we vet judges.
00:41:53.220 It's a it's a very complex problem that's going to take a generation to unwind, I fear.
00:41:59.220 You know, Rod, I want to go to you based on what Richard has said.
00:42:05.220 First of all, I got to say, my heart pines for the good old days in Brampton when we only had to deal with sword fights.
00:42:12.220 Now it's handguns.
00:42:13.220 But this whole idea of castle domain laws, we had a story last month in Vaughan, Ontario.
00:42:22.220 It was four thugs who showed up to steal a Lamborghini and the homeowner got out, fired a warning shot.
00:42:30.220 Well, he received more weapons charges than the thieves and it was four to one.
00:42:36.220 He wasn't aiming at anyone.
00:42:39.220 Can we get serious about this?
00:42:41.220 Because I don't know, either law enforcement isn't all that serious.
00:42:45.220 And I referred to that Toronto police officer that said, hey, you know, can you leave your keys accessible to a thief so there's no bloodshed?
00:42:53.220 And I don't know, I think it's egregious when you are in your own home, that is the end of the finish line.
00:43:03.220 And if you're being attacked in your own home, then what are you supposed to do?
00:43:09.220 Rod, what are your thoughts on stronger castle domain laws in Canada?
00:43:13.220 Well, the self-defense with a firearm is very complicated because firearms are heavily regulated in Canada.
00:43:20.220 And as I like to say, you can defend yourself with a pipe wrench or a firearm, and that's equally completely fine.
00:43:25.220 It's just there's not an entire act around the use, storage, transportation of pipe wrenches, right, where there is with a firearm.
00:43:33.220 When it comes to the fellow in Brampton, we did a thing about this on our television show and on our podcast as well.
00:43:42.220 His mistake was discharging a firearm in a residential neighborhood, right?
00:43:46.220 That's why he's in trouble, not that he resisted the theft of his property.
00:43:50.220 So that's why he got in trouble. He could have maybe pointed the firearm.
00:43:55.220 He had a lawful excuse to do that, in my opinion.
00:43:58.220 But anyway, these cases can tend to be complicated.
00:44:03.220 But I will say one thing. He still has his car.
00:44:06.220 So that's an important part of all that.
00:44:09.220 But yeah, it's, you know, Doug Ford came out and talked about castle doctrine.
00:44:14.220 What he said is accurate.
00:44:16.220 You have nowhere else to retreat when you're in your own home, nor should you.
00:44:20.220 And you can actually get away with defending yourself in your own home completely, no matter what you use, as long as your actions are reasonable.
00:44:28.220 But again, it's complicated.
00:44:30.220 And the only advice that I'd have for anyone watching is just look into self-defense law, look into a little bit of case law, like educate yourself really, really well.
00:44:38.220 And then that way you're probably in a better position to deploy whatever method you deem appropriate in the circumstances and not get into trouble.
00:44:45.220 But there is a problem with the judiciary and there's a problem with the police and with the mainstream media as well when it comes to people defending themselves from, you know, sexual assault or murder or assault, common assault or having their things taken.
00:45:01.220 And that's taken decades for us to get to this point where we think that that's inappropriate.
00:45:05.220 But I think situations like this and the talk that we're having is pushing it in the other direction, waking a lot of people up.
00:45:12.220 So I think there could be changes in the future.
00:45:14.220 Sheila, I want to get your thoughts, because contrary to what Rod had to say, I remember when I was with Sun News, one of our biggest stories was the so-called Spice Man.
00:45:23.220 And this was a restaurateur fending off a burglar in his establishment, not using a knife, not using a gun.
00:45:30.220 He threw spice at him. And I think I believe he was charged with using a noxious substance spice, for goodness sakes.
00:45:39.220 Sheila, you know, when I hear these stories, I don't think the politicians and the police brass have the pulse of the general citizenship.
00:45:50.220 Well, and I think there's a problem, too, about a criminal code that spans the length of our entire country that is applied differently depending on the province that you're in.
00:45:59.220 So that would absolutely never happen in Alberta, that someone is charged for throwing spice in efforts to defend themselves.
00:46:09.220 But it's it depends also on the prosecutor that you get.
00:46:16.220 I mean, in Alberta, we heard cases of farmers who and this Eddie Maurice, the process for him was truly the punishment.
00:46:25.220 He fired a shot. He was home alone with his little girl.
00:46:29.220 She was a toddler. Some dirt bags broke onto his property.
00:46:32.220 He wings them and then he gets in trouble.
00:46:35.220 And we are another case where the dirt bag was winged by the farmer.
00:46:44.220 And then that guy turned around and sued the farmer for injury.
00:46:50.220 We changed the law in Alberta so that if you're in the commission of a crime and you get hurt on someone else's property while you're trying to steal from them, that you can't sue them.
00:47:01.220 Imagine the gall of these criminals.
00:47:05.220 But also subsequent to that, because all of a sudden we're seeing a shift, a man had his house broken into in Red Deer, shot and killed the guy.
00:47:15.220 Not a charge was laid.
00:47:17.220 And so it really has to do with the political will of the government.
00:47:21.220 Doug Ford can talk about Castle Law all he wants, but he also is the guy who's in charge around there.
00:47:28.220 He could actually do something about it to make it a little bit tougher for the criminals to get away with the things that they're doing.
00:47:35.220 Great point, Sheila.
00:47:36.220 And speaking of Doug Ford, why don't we pivot here?
00:47:39.220 Doug Ford now telling Pierre Polyev to be more liberal for electoral gain.
00:47:47.220 Ford was telling the Polyev Conservatives avoid the hardcore right wing. 0.96
00:47:54.220 His words.
00:47:55.220 I'll go to Richard first.
00:47:57.220 This is rich, Richard, because by my math, Polyev got over 41% of the vote in the last election.
00:48:06.220 That is normally good enough for government.
00:48:09.220 We all know what happened.
00:48:11.220 The NDP cratered.
00:48:13.220 NDP supporters left their own party, much like NDP leader Jagmeet Singh left his own party.
00:48:21.220 And a lot of those votes went liberal.
00:48:23.220 That's why I think this was really an anomaly.
00:48:26.220 But I find this galling that Doug Ford is lecturing Polyev to be more liberal. 1.00
00:48:33.220 That's the last thing we need in this country.
00:48:35.220 Well, I'd like Fat Trudeau to defend his term or to define his terms here.
00:48:39.220 What does he mean by a hardcore conservative?
00:48:43.220 Does he mean men with wedding tackle in women's rape shelters or in the swimming pool with minor girls?
00:48:52.220 Does he mean that the conservatives should abandon that position?
00:48:56.220 Does he believe that hardcore conservatives, hardcore conservatism means that we should just open the floodgates and become the third world by inviting the third world? 0.99
00:49:07.220 What does Doug Ford mean by abandon, hardcore conservatism?
00:49:12.220 What is, I mean, there's nothing conservative about Doug Ford.
00:49:17.220 Bob Ray, by comparison, when he was the premier, might constitute conservative with comparison to Doug Ford.
00:49:25.220 So I don't know what this guy's talking about.
00:49:27.220 Oh, yeah.
00:49:28.220 NDP leader Bob Ray back in the day, he looked like a fiscal conservative today, much as, you know, he received the controversy back then.
00:49:36.220 But, Richard, I want to also weigh in on what is the unspoken strategy here?
00:49:40.220 There is so much speculation that Doug Ford, I guess he's tired of being a big fish in a small pond.
00:49:48.220 He wants to be the leader of the federal conservative party.
00:49:52.220 I think if I start seeing Doug Ford taking French lessons, I'm going to be terrified.
00:49:57.220 But is that the end goal here and constantly calling out Poliev?
00:50:02.220 Yeah, the end game for the progressive wing of the conservative party, just as it is with the liberal party, is to gain power and to stay in power and hold on to power and reward your friends while in power.
00:50:15.220 Occupy space, you know, at the very moment, what this country needs is a disruptor like a Donald Trump.
00:50:22.220 Yeah.
00:50:23.220 He wants, if you huddle with PC MPPs for any time, and I've spent, you know, hours with them in backyard barbecues, they talk about, well, if we do this, if we offend this group, we won't get elected.
00:50:37.220 And I'm, excuse me, I don't care about, you know, your job security.
00:50:43.220 You know, we need fundamental radical surgery in this province.
00:50:47.220 So I don't care if you get elected or reelected, if you offend people, just, you know, do what needs to be done.
00:50:54.220 Act on principle.
00:50:55.220 Rod, what say you, does the conservative party of Canada have to rebrand itself as liberal light in order to form government?
00:51:05.220 I don't think so.
00:51:07.220 I think all we need to do is look back one election cycle and see the story of Aaron O'Toole.
00:51:14.220 I wrote it down.
00:51:16.220 Which is interesting, right?
00:51:18.220 Because we all watch that.
00:51:19.220 And I will say this, and this is sort of my position on that.
00:51:24.220 Aaron O'Toole thought, well, we're going to do something different.
00:51:27.220 We're going to come right up the middle.
00:51:29.220 And we're going to the people that are angry at Justin Trudeau.
00:51:32.220 We could probably get them over, of course, the conservatives.
00:51:35.220 They have nowhere else to go.
00:51:36.220 Although this was his calculus or someone's calculus there.
00:51:39.220 I don't know whose it was, but he was the messenger of that.
00:51:42.220 And you know what?
00:51:43.220 If Aaron O'Toole would have won that election, he would have been hailed as a political genius.
00:51:48.220 And he didn't win.
00:51:50.220 We got O'Tooled, as I like to say. 0.92
00:51:53.220 And now, of course, he's like, here's what you never do.
00:51:57.220 You never try to out Trudeau Trudeau because Trudeau is the real deal when it comes to Trudeau-ing.
00:52:01.220 And so I don't know.
00:52:03.220 I think we've tried that experiment.
00:52:04.220 It didn't work.
00:52:05.220 And we just kind of got to go back to the roots, stand up for what's right, show the evidence and hope that most Canadians will somehow wake up, put their elbows down, wake up and go, yeah, this is a mess.
00:52:16.220 This isn't like Canada used to be 15 years ago.
00:52:19.220 You know, Sheila, I think Rod makes a brilliant point.
00:52:22.220 I'd forgotten about the 2021 election.
00:52:25.220 I guess that's how horrific it is.
00:52:27.220 But I do remember and I do remember how Justin Trudeau came out of the gate with not one bad week, because certainly not one bad week does an election campaign make.
00:52:37.220 But he had two atrocious weeks and Aaron O'Toole, by contrast, had two superb weeks in the early going.
00:52:47.220 And then to Rod's point, what did Aaron O'Toole start to do?
00:52:50.220 Well, he started to talk about, you know, gun legislation as in a gun grab.
00:52:55.220 He started to talk about carbon taxes again.
00:52:58.220 And he snatched the feet from the jaws of victory.
00:53:02.220 So we have proof that, you know, being liberal light doesn't work when, you know, you're dealing with a conservative base.
00:53:10.220 And for those liberals out there, if I was a liberal voter, Sheila, why am I drinking new Coke when I can have Coke Classic?
00:53:17.220 Yeah, this is a failed strategy over and over again.
00:53:21.220 When the old PCs in Alberta decided to move towards the middle, it put zero daylight in between them and the NDP.
00:53:28.220 And then all of a sudden we had an NDP government for four very dark years.
00:53:32.220 You know, as Doug Ford was talking there, I wrote down the name, Aaron O'Toole, on my little notepad on my desk.
00:53:39.220 Because, yeah, a strategy, by the way, that might work in Ontario will not work in the rest of the country.
00:53:49.220 Do you think for a second that Western conservatives are going to be like, yeah, we need someone who's a little less conservative, a little less blue of a Tory?
00:53:59.220 It just won't work.
00:54:00.220 And when you look at the conservative movement, and this is just the facts, the brain trust of the conservative movement is from the West.
00:54:08.220 The ideas of the conservative movement are largely from the West, but also something that all political parties need.
00:54:14.220 And that's the fundraising.
00:54:16.220 Much of that comes out of the West.
00:54:18.220 And where is Pierre Pauliev running in one of the darkest blue ridings in the entire country, one of the most conservative places in North America?
00:54:29.220 And I'm factoring Texas into that mix there.
00:54:32.220 And so Doug Ford's advice is be a little less conservative when the infrastructure of the party is sort of receding back to the West.
00:54:45.220 His advice is to be a little less Western.
00:54:47.220 Sure, that'll work out great.
00:54:49.220 That's how you have Carney's kids running the country, because we'll never get rid of them.
00:54:56.220 Great point, Sheila.
00:54:57.220 And Richard, to that point, it's not just Doug Ford giving Pauliev advice.
00:55:01.220 I see we have a CBC article, and it states,
00:55:04.220 Pauliev tweaks his tone and strategy as he faces a must-win by-election.
00:55:11.220 And he is keeping his senior advisor, Jenny Bryn, at least for now.
00:55:17.220 That's what the article says.
00:55:18.220 You know, Richard, I guess what would be worse than taking campaign advice from Doug Ford?
00:55:24.220 It would probably be taking it from the CBC.
00:55:27.220 I will tell you, we covered the election campaign extensively.
00:55:31.220 I was covering the Pauliev rallies, the Pauliev pressers.
00:55:35.220 They say campaigns matter.
00:55:37.220 I think it was an excellent campaign, even though it didn't achieve the intended results.
00:55:43.220 Do you think there's any danger of Pauliev and senior conservatives actually listening to Doug Ford and CBC in terms of pivoting?
00:55:52.220 Is there a danger? Always. There's always a danger.
00:55:57.220 And I don't know what it's going to take for Pierre Pauliev to shed, you know, some of these people that have his ear that I think are watering down.
00:56:07.220 He does at times, you know, sound like a genuine conservative.
00:56:13.220 At other times, the message, it seems to be pretty weak tea as far as I'm concerned.
00:56:18.220 I think he did run for the most part a pretty solid campaign.
00:56:22.220 It should have been a tap in.
00:56:24.220 I think he stumbled early.
00:56:25.220 I mean, I went to an event and there was a lot of, you know, boo Trump and down with Trump and down with the USA nonsense.
00:56:31.220 He should have he should have walked away from that aspect of the campaign.
00:56:35.220 But for the most part, I mean, I think you're right.
00:56:40.220 I think had it not been for the complete and deliberate collapse, I think, of the NDP, that we would have had a conservative government other than that.
00:56:49.220 But, yeah, I'm always concerned that there's people surrounding the conservative leader who are willing to water down the tea to get elected.
00:56:59.220 We can't have that.
00:57:00.220 No, I think you're right, Richard.
00:57:02.220 And Rod, another story I see from the Global Mail, the Ontario Progressive Conservatives are scheduling a convention for the same time as Polyev's leadership review.
00:57:14.220 I don't know what to make of that.
00:57:17.220 I will say that, you know, in politics in our modern world right now, you're pretty much one and done.
00:57:24.220 If you don't deliver, you rarely get a second chance.
00:57:27.220 I would say Pierre Polyev deserves a second chance based on what I said earlier before throwing to Richard.
00:57:34.220 And really, who's in the wings ready to step up as the federal leader of the Conservative Party of Canada?
00:57:44.220 That's one thing.
00:57:45.220 And what are your thoughts on the Ontario PCs doing their convention around the same time as the mandatory leadership review for the federal party?
00:57:56.220 Well, I'm not involved in a lot of Ontario politics because I'm from out west, and we focus federally because that's our battle space.
00:58:04.220 But there's a weird friction between Doug Ford and the federal Conservatives, and it's strange to me.
00:58:11.220 I think Doug had come out and said something about like, what have the Conservatives ever done for me?
00:58:17.220 And it's funny because I was in Halifax a number of years ago at the leadership convention when we ended up with, oh, help me out.
00:58:30.220 Andrew Scheer.
00:58:31.220 Andrew Scheer, pardon me.
00:58:32.220 Yeah, that's right.
00:58:33.220 Very forgettable at the time.
00:58:34.220 He left an impression.
00:58:35.220 For sure.
00:58:36.220 Yeah.
00:58:37.220 And, you know, there was, I don't know, probably 3,000 people in that room or whatever it was.
00:58:40.220 Yeah.
00:58:41.220 It was a big event, right?
00:58:42.220 Highly produced event.
00:58:43.220 The Conservatives, the federal Conservatives brought Doug Ford in to speak to their audience and their, I guess by extension, their funding, you know, audience, right?
00:58:52.220 Their base.
00:58:53.220 And gave him all kinds of opportunities like that.
00:58:55.220 And it's just interesting.
00:58:57.220 I guess sometimes people forget, but I don't know what Doug is.
00:59:01.220 So some people speculate that Doug Ford's aspiration has become the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, which would, I mean, I've been wrong before.
00:59:08.220 But I think that would never happen because Conservatives are so sick of, you know, the Aaron O'Toole experience and whatnot and some of the other voices wanting to water down the message.
00:59:19.220 So I don't know.
00:59:20.220 I think Pierre's pretty safe, at least for now, because as you said, there's no one waiting in the wings.
00:59:25.220 If not Pierre, who?
00:59:26.220 And he very well might have taken some really good lessons from this particular election, which he had to run against somebody he wasn't, you know, accustomed to.
00:59:35.220 So I don't know.
00:59:36.220 I think Pierre probably does deserve another shot.
00:59:40.220 And Doug Ford, I don't consider him a Conservative at any level.
00:59:44.220 Well, that's our show for the day and for the week.
00:59:49.220 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:59:55.220 And keep fighting for freedom.