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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Big show today. I take you through Bill C-2. That's Mark Carney's first law

00:00:05.680 that he's introduced into Parliament. He wants to ban cash and spy on your internet activities.

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00:01:31.500 Tonight, the liberals told Trump they'd pass a law to stop cross-border smuggling, but in fact,

00:01:46.540 it's a law to spy on you and me. It's June 5th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:51.560 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:54.780 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:57.920 I think the Mark Carney government will reintroduce Trudeau's Bill C-63. You'll know that as the

00:02:12.900 Online Harms Act. That was the censorship law that was on its way to becoming law, at least. It was

00:02:19.000 introduced in the House of Commons, but then Trudeau prorogued Parliament when he was challenged by

00:02:23.980 Christia Freeland, and that automatically canceled all unpassed legislation. So we were saved by the

00:02:30.520 bell. But the bill can simply be reintroduced, and as it happened, Stephen Gilbeau, the extremist,

00:02:37.200 who first started to draft this bill years ago when he was Trudeau's Heritage Minister, well,

00:02:42.320 he's back in cabinet as the Heritage Minister again. I mean, do you think he has had a change of heart

00:02:48.200 about censorship, or do you think he's even worse? And add to that Mark Carney's extreme language

00:02:54.700 during the campaign about censoring US-based social media platforms. He means Twitter and X mainly,

00:03:02.040 but also others like Facebook. If people say mean things, not illegal things, but mean things,

00:03:10.260 Carney wants to censor it. Take a look.

00:03:11.820 Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia,

00:03:18.980 and hate in all its forms. And they're being used by criminals to harm our children.

00:03:28.660 My government will act.

00:03:30.160 Those things he listed there, they are not illegal or criminal. They're just offensive, I guess,

00:03:36.320 and everyone has a different taste. So he wants to regulate political speech by basically giving

00:03:41.400 a heckler's veto to anyone who claims their feelings are hurt. They get to silence someone. It's not

00:03:47.740 based on any criminality. What he just said there was as extreme as anything that Justin Trudeau ever

00:03:54.960 did. So stand by for that. I'm sure it'll come back, C-63, especially now that Elon Musk is flexing

00:04:02.760 his free speech muscles. But there are other ways for the liberals to silence Canadians and to spy on

00:04:08.740 Canadians and to basically to do all of what they did to the truckers, to punish us, to do terrible

00:04:14.920 things without even having a court order in their power. I'm talking about when the liberals simply

00:04:20.880 ordered banks to freeze and seize bank accounts of their political enemies hundreds of times.

00:04:27.640 No trial, no arrest, no court order, no hearing, no procedure, no appeal, just some political aid

00:04:34.200 made an enemies list. And next thing you know, you're at the grocery store or gas station and

00:04:40.780 your bank card isn't working because your husband protested against the liberals too much. That's not

00:04:46.620 even the Online Harms Act. That's what the liberals did without any special laws three years ago.

00:04:52.300 Anyways, Mark Carney has started introducing bills. The very first bill of a new parliament is a

00:04:59.100 symbolic one. That's the tradition. So that was Bill C-1. Bill C-2 is always the first substantive

00:05:06.880 bill, the meaningful bill. And what is the first thing, the most important thing that Mark Carney

00:05:12.780 wanted to get done? He just introduced C-2 this week. Well, it's a doozy. Here's a copy of the front of

00:05:18.680 the bill. It's called an act respecting certain measures relating to the security of the border

00:05:25.020 between Canada and the United States and respecting other related security measures. Well, that sounds

00:05:31.300 pretty good. I mean, it's embarrassing that Canada had to be shamed into border security by a foreign 1.00

00:05:37.360 leader complaining about the drugs and terrorists just walking across the border. But that's where we

00:05:42.260 are, I guess. But let me ask you a question and give me an answer from your gut. Do you think

00:05:47.480 the liberals would actually make a law that secures the borders and stops terrorists and drugs? Or

00:05:52.500 do you think they would actually plant little surprises buried in the 140 pages of Dan's legalese

00:05:59.060 in this bill that actually undermine our freedom and safety, not make us safer or freer? I mean,

00:06:04.720 based on what you know about the moral character of our government, which of those two paths do you

00:06:10.660 think they chose? It's a huge bill that tries to do so much, which is why it's perfect for burying

00:06:17.300 little surprises in it. The super short summary of it itself is five pages long. Some of it makes

00:06:25.360 sense on the face of it, just like C-63. They talked about stopping revenge pornography and child

00:06:30.620 pornography. So you'd say, oh, that's a good idea. But then they hid the political censorship. This bill

00:06:35.900 does the same thing. Let me read something that sounds on the face of it like not a bad idea.

00:06:41.460 This is from the short summary at the beginning of the law.

00:06:44.560 Part one amends the Customs Act to provide the Canada Border Services Agency with facilities free

00:06:50.280 of charge for carrying out any purpose related to the administration or enforcement of that act

00:06:56.160 and other acts of parliament and to provide officers of that agency with access at certain locations to

00:07:02.320 goods destined for export. It also includes transitional provisions. So that's all about

00:07:08.120 stopping the cars that are being stolen every day in big cities and then shipped off to Africa and the 0.99

00:07:14.180 Middle East. Okay, so you're letting border services agencies into export terminals. Sounds like a good 0.99

00:07:20.200 idea. It's sort of actually crazy that that isn't the case now. So searching for things at the border

00:07:25.980 makes sense. Here's part two. There's 14 parts. I'm not going to read all of them. Don't worry.

00:07:31.060 I'm just showing you how they're hiding horrendous things in parts of a bill that are good.

00:07:38.420 Part two amends the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act to create a new temporary accelerated

00:07:44.100 scheduling pathway that allows the Minister of Health to add precursor chemicals to Schedule 5 of

00:07:49.380 that act. It also makes related amendments to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, police enforcement

00:07:55.060 regulations, and precursor control regulations. You can probably guess what that means.

00:08:01.060 It makes sense to me basically stopping the ingredients for illegal drugs, not just the

00:08:07.580 ingredients themselves. Okay, that sounds pretty good. But let me skip ahead to part four, though.

00:08:14.920 It amends the Canada Post Corporation Act to permit the demand, seizure, detention, or retention of

00:08:24.520 anything in the course of post. Only in accordance with an act of parliament. It also amends that act to expand

00:08:31.760 the Canada Post Corporation's authority to open mail in circumstances to include the authority to open

00:08:39.880 letters. Okay, hang on. What again? This is a border bill. I was told this was the bill Donald Trump demanded.

00:08:46.980 Does that just mean what I think it means? The government can just open up your mail without a search

00:08:53.540 warrant now? Why? Why yes. Let's go to the full text of the bill. It's in a strange order. It's written

00:08:59.920 sort of in, not in what I would think would be a logical order, but I want to read it to you.

00:09:05.980 Um, you can see for yourself. The first thing they say is you can only open someone's mail by following

00:09:13.380 these rules. So at least they're saying not everyone can open all mail all the time. They say

00:09:18.880 nothing in the course of post, that's a fancy way of saying something moving through Canada Post,

00:09:24.340 is subject to demand, seizure, detention, or retention, except in accordance with an act of

00:09:28.680 parliament. Okay, thanks very little. So you're saying only parliament can snoop in our mail.

00:09:32.440 Then they say you have to tell Canada Post, if you're a cop, that you took mail from them.

00:09:37.960 You got to let them know within 60 days that you just stole it. Let me read.

00:09:43.460 If mail is demanded, seized, detained, or retained, or in accordance with an act of parliament,

00:09:49.200 other than the act or the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act, notice of the demand,

00:09:55.940 seizure, detention, or retention, must be given in writing to the corporation within 60 days

00:10:01.640 after the demand, seizure, detention, or retention. Unless the mail has before the end of the period

00:10:09.740 been delivered to the addressee of the mail or returned to the corporation. So they're saying if you're

00:10:16.900 a cop and you take something from the mail, you've got 60 days before you have to let Canada Post know

00:10:23.340 you just took it out of the mail, but you don't even have to let them know if you put it back in the mail

00:10:28.340 and it goes to its final destination. So what's that going to do with the border again?

00:10:34.220 I'll just read a little bit more. They say you cannot get in trouble for opening someone's mail

00:10:39.900 this way. You just can't. Subject to section 41.1, His Majesty and Right of Canada, any servant or agent

00:10:47.940 or mandatory of someone who's mandated of the Majesty and the corporation are not liable to any person for

00:10:55.900 any claim arising from a demand, seizure, detention, etc. So they're saying, hey guys, a lot of bad

00:11:02.780 things are going to happen and you can't do anything about it. You cannot sue us for rifling through your

00:11:08.420 mail. Then they change the burden of proof. Now, of course, police can open mail right now with a court

00:11:13.600 order. They can go into your house with a court order. It's called a search warrant. But they change

00:11:19.880 the burden of proof to having reasonable grounds to suspect. So they let an ordinary cop do it if the

00:11:27.840 cop says, well, you know, I'm a pretty reasonable guy and I think there's something fishy going on. So

00:11:32.940 no search warrant, no judge, no two sides of the story in court. Just, are you reasonably worried?

00:11:41.520 Let me read that for you. The corporation may open any mail if it has reasonable grounds to suspect.

00:11:49.460 And then it cuts that off because that was just the wording that was changed. You can see it now

00:11:54.500 does not require a search warrant, only, you know, reasonable suspicion. Just Chrystia Freeland

00:11:59.600 maybe phoning up some cop to seize the mail of some enemy the way she sees the bank accounts of the 0.99

00:12:07.660 truckers. They learn nothing from that. Actually, they did learn. They learned they can get away with

00:12:13.280 it. And who is Mark Carney's new right-hand man in all this? His new principal secretary, but David

00:12:19.100 Lamedi, the crooked former justice minister who approved of the illegal search and seizures of

00:12:25.040 the truckers. So whose mail will be opened? Again, what's it got to do with borders? A terrorist mail?

00:12:32.760 A drug dealer's mail? But like I say, that can be done right now with a search warrant. How about

00:12:38.460 my mail? How about the mail of conservative opposition MPs? How about donors to the conservative

00:12:46.500 party? Can their mail be opened? How about mail that's legally privileged? So when a lawyer writes

00:12:54.440 something confidential to a client about a court case, who's in charge of this? Why, the same crooks who

00:13:01.080 were in charge of the greatest civil liberties bonfire in Canadian history during the pandemic?

00:13:06.100 They want to search and seize your mail now because they're suspicious of you. They have

00:13:10.080 reasonable grounds to suspect you're up to something. And of course, they are suspicious of

00:13:14.180 you because you are suspicious of them. Now, if you would like them, if you would just like them,

00:13:20.240 then they would like you too. It's basically an enemies list they have. It's got nothing to do with

00:13:26.060 border security. What was the word border in any of that? And everything to do with going after

00:13:30.340 their enemies. But then look at this again. This is from the summary of the line here in the front

00:13:35.080 again. Part 11 amends the Proceeds of Crime, Money Laundering, and Terrorist Financing Act to

00:13:42.920 prohibit certain entities from accepting cash deposits from third parties and certain persons or

00:13:48.580 entities from accepting cash payments, donations, or deposits of $10,000 or more. It also makes a related

00:13:55.320 amendment to the proceeds of crime and terrorism financing administrative monetary penalties

00:14:01.480 regulations. That's a mouthful, but let me translate. You can't use cash anymore if it's more than 10

00:14:10.100 grand. Even if it's totally legitimate. Here, let's go to the text. Let's read it for yourself.

00:14:16.000 Look at the bill yourself. Section 136. The act is amended by adding the following after Section

00:14:21.780 77.4. Offense. Cash payments, donations, or deposits of $10,000 or more. Every person or entity,

00:14:33.040 that could mean a company, could mean a church, that is engaged in a business, a profession,

00:14:38.940 or the solicitation of charitable financial donations from the public, commits an offense

00:14:45.240 if the person or entity accepts a cash payment, donation, or deposit of $10,000 or more in a single

00:14:53.240 transaction or in a prescribed series of related transactions that total $10,000 or more. Now,

00:14:59.460 I've never had $10,000 cash in my pocket, but I could imagine moments when that could happen to

00:15:06.080 very ordinary people. I mean, not everyone uses credit cards, whether people playing bingo,

00:15:11.880 for example, or a laundromat that gets paid in bills and coins or restaurants or a bar. I'm just

00:15:19.340 picking examples. You think of your own. There's a car wash I go to pay cash. I mean, a church that

00:15:26.180 passes a donation plate. There are many, there are endless, completely legitimate reasons to have

00:15:32.400 $10,000 on you. And by the way, those are 10,000 Canadian mini dollars. It doesn't go as far as it

00:15:38.420 used to go. It's not illegal to have $10,000, but now it will be, even if it's totally legit. You

00:15:47.860 can't pay for things like that. Sorry, this is a border control law. Who says this is, who says it's

00:15:56.960 wrong to use cash? And on what basis do they regulate you? They won't regulate the border,

00:16:02.360 but they're coming for you. If you use $10,000 in cash. If you're a drug dealer, I get it. If you're

00:16:09.100 a terrorist, I get it. But that's not what the proposed law says, is it? It says every person

00:16:15.420 and it even lists businesses, professions, charities. How on earth is that necessary? How on earth

00:16:22.080 is that related to the supposed purpose of this bill? Donald Trump didn't say, hey, crack down on

00:16:28.020 Christian churches and their donation place. Donald Trump said, fix your border. And Mark Carney said,

00:16:34.260 okay, fix your border. I hear open people's mail and take their money if they use cash.

00:16:41.580 Look, it's obvious what this is. This is a war on cash. It's a way to scare people to move off cash

00:16:48.380 and use only credit cards and other online traceable forms of money. So the government can

00:16:54.380 look at everything you do, everyone you pay, every place you go. If you can see what people pay for,

00:17:01.560 you can see where they go and who they deal with, what everyone does with their money. Nothing to do

00:17:06.840 with immigration or border security or drugs. Again, you can already seize the proceeds of crime right

00:17:12.200 now. This is to get people off cash. And eventually I predict onto some sort of traceable

00:17:18.140 government central bank digital currency, which is smart money, which means they can turn it off

00:17:25.340 if you're spending it in a way they don't like. You know, they want to do that, especially a central

00:17:31.400 banker like Mark Carney. You know, he wants to get central bank digital currency going. And look at

00:17:37.180 this from the summary of the bill. Let's go to part 14.

00:17:40.380 Part 14 amends various acts to modernize certain provisions, respecting the timely gathering and

00:17:47.400 production of data and information during an investigation. It, among other things,

00:17:52.380 amends the criminal code to, among other things, facilitate access to basic information that will

00:17:58.220 assist the investigation of federal offenses through an information demand or a judicial production

00:18:04.540 order to persons who provide services to the public. Clarify the response time for

00:18:10.360 production orders and the ability of peace officers and public officers to receive an act on certain

00:18:15.200 information that is voluntarily provided to them and on certain information that is publicly available

00:18:20.880 and specify certain circumstances in which peace officers and public officers may obtain evidence,

00:18:28.840 including subscriber information in exigent circumstances. I'll just read a little more.

00:18:36.000 You know, provide and clarify authorities by which computer data may be examined.

00:18:42.220 You're sorry, what's this got to do with the border again?

00:18:45.520 You know, Canada's leading internet privacy expert, Professor Michael Geist of University of Ottawa,

00:18:51.000 he wrote about this actually in the Globe and Mail just today.

00:18:56.140 And he thinks it's an atrocious, it's like a poison pill.

00:18:59.880 He says, alarming privacy threats are buried in the liberal border bill.

00:19:06.660 Let me read a bit.

00:19:07.520 A border security bill tabled by the liberal government this week will have wide reach beyond

00:19:11.780 the 49th parallel buried in the massive bill of provisions to allow law enforcement

00:19:16.200 to access information about internet subscribers without a warrant.

00:19:21.520 Hey, what websites are you going to?

00:19:24.400 Show the government. No search warrant necessary.

00:19:26.280 Just there's a cop who wants to know.

00:19:29.100 The Strong Borders Act seeks to circumvent these decisions by creating a new information demand power

00:19:36.060 for law enforcement that does not require court oversight.

00:19:39.480 The new power targets information about a subscriber, such as whether they use a particular internet service

00:19:45.720 and if the provider has data about their usage.

00:19:48.960 The provider may also be required to disclose where and when the service was used,

00:19:53.300 as well as information about any other services the subscriber used to communicate.

00:19:58.460 This is akin to law enforcement approaching a bank to demand if a particular person is a client

00:20:04.660 and whether there is information about their account transactions

00:20:07.540 in which branches were used by stopping short of asking for the actual account information.

00:20:14.120 And Geist continues.

00:20:15.100 He says, there are obvious privacy implications here that are certain to result in a legal challenge

00:20:20.900 should the bill pass in its current form.

00:20:23.480 Well, why should that stop the liberals?

00:20:25.260 I mean, the Emergencies Act was illegal and unconstitutional.

00:20:28.220 They did it anyways.

00:20:29.780 Now, again, if this was targeting after bad guys and a court looked at the evidence and said,

00:20:34.360 yeah, oh, you got Osama bin Laden's, you know, successor on the run. 0.59

00:20:39.120 You bet.

00:20:40.060 Check out what he's doing on the internet.

00:20:42.320 No one would disagree.

00:20:43.680 Well, actually, this government probably would come to his defense.

00:20:46.540 But this isn't about going after the bad guys.

00:20:50.380 It's about going after everyone.

00:20:54.000 And any cop can do it.

00:20:55.620 No court oversight.

00:20:57.500 I bet those Toronto cops, you know, those ones who do the podcast saying how the Hamas attack

00:21:03.260 on Israel was actually had a silver lining.

00:21:05.640 I bet they're going to use this power a lot.

00:21:09.100 Here's the official wording from the bill itself about what a cop can get.

00:21:12.920 After a phone call from, say, Chrystia Freeland, I mean, no need for a judge here. 1.00

00:21:17.580 Let's read.

00:21:18.800 Subscriber information means in relation to any client of a person who provides services

00:21:25.340 to the public or any subscriber to the services of such a person, A, information that subscriber

00:21:32.340 or client provided to the person in order to receive the services, including their name,

00:21:38.160 pseudonym, address, telephone number, and email address.

00:21:43.200 Identifiers assigned to the subscriber or client by the person, including account numbers,

00:21:48.640 and information relating to the services provided to the subscriber or client, including the

00:21:52.960 types of services provided, the period during which the services were provided, and information

00:21:58.080 that identifies the devices, equipment, or things used by the subscriber or client in relation

00:22:04.200 to the services used.

00:22:06.340 And then there's some French version on the other side.

00:22:09.280 But here's the first part of what a cop can get.

00:22:12.400 So I just listed what they said is the information.

00:22:16.800 A peace officer or public officer may make a demand in Form 5.0011 to a person who provides

00:22:23.820 services to the public requiring a person to provide in the form, manner, and time specified

00:22:29.540 in the demand the following info.

00:22:31.920 A, whether the person provides or has provided services to any subscriber or client, order

00:22:37.120 the account identified, specified in the form.

00:22:39.560 It goes on.

00:22:40.160 It basically repeats what I just said.

00:22:42.300 But basically, you're saying, here's everything we know about our customer, his phone number,

00:22:47.460 his email address, his real name, his fake online name.

00:22:52.140 No search warrant needed.

00:22:53.300 Just a curious cop.

00:22:56.520 Yeah.

00:22:56.740 So just to be clear, they're passing this in the name of border security, in the name

00:23:01.780 of stopping terrorism and fentanyl.

00:23:04.240 But they literally jammed this into the end, part 14 of a 14-part bill.

00:23:08.940 And it's got nothing to do with borders or terrorism or drugs.

00:23:12.740 And it has everything to do with spying on you.

00:23:18.260 And yeah, I mean you.

00:23:20.420 They spied on millions of Canadians during COVID.

00:23:24.120 And they weaponized that during the trucker convoy.

00:23:27.560 They seized bank accounts.

00:23:29.340 This is literally Mark Carney's first bill.

00:23:36.560 Stay with me for more.

00:23:49.040 Hello, my friends.

00:23:50.300 I am in Canada today.

00:23:52.060 There's a few reasons for that, including I have an exciting interview for tomorrow that

00:23:55.860 I want to be here in our head office for.

00:23:58.120 But my dear friend, Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter, went to London for the latest

00:24:03.140 hearing that Tommy Robinson faces.

00:24:05.660 A bizarre case.

00:24:07.040 I mentioned it to you the other day.

00:24:09.260 Paparazzi have complained that Tommy is taking photos of them.

00:24:13.900 It's unbelievable.

00:24:14.840 Here's Sheila's report from the streets of London.

00:24:20.160 Sheila Gunn-Reed for Rebel News all the way from Canada in rainy London, England.

00:24:25.640 This morning, I sat down with citizen journalist and freedom fighter Tommy Robinson

00:24:30.660 over breakfast, possibly his last free meal outside of prison walls, depending on how today's

00:24:36.940 court hearing went.

00:24:38.360 Spoiler alert, it went well.

00:24:40.440 He's free for now.

00:24:41.820 I'll tell you more about that in another video.

00:24:43.880 But Tommy is facing new criminal harassment charges for confronting two journalists who

00:24:49.900 photographed his children while he was on a private family holiday in Cyprus.

00:24:54.360 They invaded his kids' privacy.

00:24:56.540 Now he's the one on trial.

00:24:58.640 Tommy's just come off a stretch in jail for civil contempt because he published a documentary

00:25:03.340 the press didn't like.

00:25:04.800 And now, with a real chance of being remanded into custody again, he took a few minutes to

00:25:10.280 speak with us.

00:25:11.620 Take a listen.

00:25:12.260 Tommy, I just caught up with you in a cafe.

00:25:14.700 Could be your last meal before jail again.

00:25:17.160 It's better cafe than Tim Hortons for you Canadians. 1.00

00:25:19.920 We have a full English.

00:25:21.440 Your breakfast is awful.

00:25:23.300 You know, I won't argue.

00:25:25.800 No, I won't argue.

00:25:27.220 Give us a rundown of exactly what brings you back to court today.

00:25:31.520 Brings me back to court because journalists tracked down where I was with my children and

00:25:35.640 family on holiday.

00:25:36.280 They came, which, look, they photographed us in the hotel, but my problem was, for public

00:25:42.440 interest, why did they put pictures of my innocent family members when they're fully

00:25:45.240 aware there's threats of danger and death threats against them?

00:25:47.600 Why did they give the location where we were?

00:25:49.780 That resulted from...

00:25:50.840 They've done their article on the 5th.

00:25:52.060 They basically framed me as the person behind the riots when there's no evidence of that.

00:25:56.120 In fact, all the evidence is the total opposite.

00:25:58.240 I wasn't even in the country when the riots started.

00:26:00.200 I was calling for calm and peace the whole time.

00:26:01.900 But then they run a headline that basically told the world that I was instigating and

00:26:05.160 organizing the riots.

00:26:05.860 Now, this happened at the same time that Keir Starmer's government, the Labour government,

00:26:09.200 who wanted to deflect any of the public anger that's against them for their policy failures

00:26:13.920 in this country, they wanted to deflect it and blame it on me and blame it on ideology

00:26:17.320 and blame it on the far right.

00:26:18.800 Now, since then, so Keir Starmer's government says it was far right.

00:26:21.940 The Daily Mail then put me as a front page blaming me.

00:26:24.440 Since then, there's been in-depth investigations and studies by the police.

00:26:27.460 There was no link to far right, no link to me, no links to anything.

00:26:30.700 It was just angry people in towns and cities.

00:26:32.300 And they're angry because refugees and migrants have been put into hotels, for example.

00:26:37.720 They never spoke about why people were rioting.

00:26:40.380 In Hull, which is a city where people rioted, a migrant left the hotel and committed an act

00:26:44.260 of jihad and stabbed a British pensioner to death.

00:26:47.320 In Tamworth, a migrant left the hotel, his name was Mohammed, and he raped a woman who

00:26:50.400 was walking home.

00:26:51.480 In Great Yarmouth, a migrant left the hotel and raped a woman.

00:26:54.080 Across this country, migrants have been housed in hotels and have raped English women. 0.89

00:26:58.040 So when this boiling point come after three young children were butchered to death,

00:27:00.980 when that comes, people come out in the streets with anger.

00:27:03.980 But rather than address why they're angry, I got blamed, I got scapegoated.

00:27:07.060 That resulted in death threats against my family.

00:27:10.960 My mum and dad had to relocate from their home.

00:27:13.180 There was so much going on.

00:27:14.880 And the media have never had it turned on them.

00:27:18.020 Now, I act as a citizen journalist.

00:27:19.680 So when they've done this to me, the next day, I started doing my homework on them.

00:27:23.400 And I contacted them and messaged them saying, you need to answer questions of why you've

00:27:26.960 just endangered and located my family.

00:27:28.320 They could have wrote the article without giving the location of where we were and without

00:27:33.040 photographing innocent people, like family members.

00:27:35.780 But they purposely, their motive was to cause me maximum disruption, maximum problems, maximum

00:27:41.760 danger.

00:27:42.180 That was their motive.

00:27:43.020 It wasn't news.

00:27:44.020 It wasn't news and it wasn't the truth.

00:27:45.820 It was to scapegoat me and to endanger me.

00:27:47.580 So I then got pictures of them and what I asked them was, is it okay for me to come

00:27:51.680 and ask you questions when you're with your family?

00:27:53.860 And I made it very clear.

00:27:55.540 I'm not going to show images of your family.

00:27:57.660 I'm not going to give away your locations.

00:27:59.560 You know I know where you are because I found out within 24 hours where all three of them

00:28:02.880 were.

00:28:03.540 I said, I've got questions to ask you on camera.

00:28:06.280 Made it clear.

00:28:07.040 I'm coming with a camera to ask you questions.

00:28:09.620 Well, that's what they've done to me.

00:28:11.640 Then I'm prosecuted when I was in jail, questioned when I was in jail.

00:28:15.280 We get a result to say, I'm going to be freed from jail.

00:28:17.440 And the very next day, the police come in and issue me this court date.

00:28:20.920 The next day, it's like, it's like, it's so blatant for everyone to watch.

00:28:24.760 Now, what I, what I believe they'll do today is try and gag me, which is what this is about.

00:28:29.280 This case may take now to 2027 from what I'm being told.

00:28:33.240 To be gagged for two years.

00:28:34.520 Be gagged for two years and gagged because I'm glad you're here. 1.00

00:28:37.440 Okay.

00:28:37.700 So thank you, Ezra.

00:28:38.800 I'm glad you're here.

00:28:39.940 We've got the voice of ours.

00:28:40.600 We've got the differences now.

00:28:41.920 There's citizen journalists that come from everywhere.

00:28:43.980 Yeah.

00:28:44.360 Which is why they can't win anymore.

00:28:45.860 Because what they will do today.

00:28:47.440 Everybody has this.

00:28:48.360 Everyone has these.

00:28:49.340 Yeah.

00:28:49.600 What the mainstream media narrative will be today and the headlines that will go everywhere

00:28:53.100 is Tommy Robinson causes fear of violence.

00:28:55.820 Tommy Robinson harasses journalists.

00:28:57.660 They found my family on a holiday.

00:29:00.200 This is the.

00:29:00.960 In another country.

00:29:01.800 In another country.

00:29:02.340 This is the second time they've done that on a holiday.

00:29:04.740 They've come into my hotel twice and took pictures of my family on a holiday.

00:29:08.060 They've caused danger to them.

00:29:09.320 They have followed extremists and live streamed the Daily Mail, the same paper, live streamed

00:29:14.440 where my family lived.

00:29:15.260 The family had to move and leave their home.

00:29:17.280 Yet they're saying that I've caused them fear of violence.

00:29:20.080 Threats to kill my kids.

00:29:20.860 Threats to kill my family.

00:29:22.240 That I've caused them violence by saying I'm going to question you with a camera.

00:29:25.360 It's like, is this for real?

00:29:26.600 And that the sentence for this is 10 years in prison.

00:29:29.360 But they come and they give me this condition.

00:29:31.760 Today's cost five grand.

00:29:33.100 Yeah.

00:29:33.620 This is what it is.

00:29:34.320 It's financial terrorism.

00:29:35.860 It's there's there's not been since I started speaking out in 2009.

00:29:39.280 Since the start of my activism.

00:29:40.720 I have not had one day where I haven't faced court prosecution.

00:29:43.880 So I thought when I was coming out of prison this time.

00:29:46.160 I thought, right, I'm going to get out of here.

00:29:47.680 And for the first time, I'm going to have no case.

00:29:49.620 But I told all the I told the prison officers, I guarantee you they come and get me again.

00:29:54.000 I don't know what for.

00:29:55.080 And then literally we've got the result.

00:29:56.720 I'm sitting there and the officer comes in.

00:29:58.040 He said, police are here.

00:29:59.840 I said, I just looked at myself.

00:30:00.720 I told you.

00:30:01.360 I don't know what it's for, but I told you.

00:30:02.900 And I thought they'd trump up a charge in order to remand me.

00:30:06.600 Now, who knows?

00:30:07.220 I might walk in and out.

00:30:08.580 They might say you're remanded and put me straight in prison.

00:30:11.080 And then and then hold me till 2027 for trial.

00:30:13.700 But I haven't done anything.

00:30:16.100 So what was important for me was that the public see, just like they saw with the film Silence.

00:30:20.200 So right now, pinned on my X count and on my I've been given YouTube back.

00:30:23.600 So Tommy Robinson online, subscribe and like share.

00:30:27.140 I made a documentary.

00:30:28.620 I think we've done pretty good.

00:30:29.500 We've done it in six days.

00:30:30.720 I haven't slept for six days.

00:30:32.380 OK, so and we got a film out which details to the public.

00:30:35.780 Here's what they've done.

00:30:36.440 Here's how they've done it.

00:30:37.540 Have a watch.

00:30:38.380 Make your own mind up.

00:30:39.140 Have I caused them fear or have they caused my family fear?

00:30:41.560 The problem is, it's like 2025 and I can't ask a journalist a question.

00:30:45.720 They're allowed to act as a propaganda arm for the establishment and government.

00:30:49.780 Harass people, persecute them, target them, humiliate them, lie about them, slander them.

00:30:54.260 And the minute you turn the camera on them, well, you're going to jail.

00:30:57.040 That is a communist country.

00:30:58.580 It's a communist nation.

00:30:59.480 That's not free press.

00:31:00.660 Well, and the charges causing them fear.

00:31:04.000 Well, fear is an emotion.

00:31:05.460 Yeah, causing them fear.

00:31:06.380 There's no evidence of that.

00:31:07.260 I don't make any threats.

00:31:08.260 So I don't say anything I caused them fear, fear of violence.

00:31:12.920 So all they have to say is, oh, I was scared.

00:31:15.180 What do you think my daughter was like when she was 13 years old in the swimming pool and

00:31:18.560 men were running around asking for me, taking pictures?

00:31:21.460 What do you think?

00:31:22.080 Because due to this article that they put out, given our location, Muslims were making videos 1.00

00:31:26.560 saying he's in this hotel.

00:31:27.680 This is where he is.

00:31:28.960 The threats were insane.

00:31:30.700 And the person who faces prison here is me.

00:31:33.560 They don't like citizen journalism.

00:31:35.440 They have controlled the media for as long as any of us have lived, including our parents.

00:31:40.180 And they have been able to tell you how to think about who and about who.

00:31:43.420 And those days are gone because of these.

00:31:45.220 So they don't want it.

00:31:46.040 And they don't want the camera turned on them.

00:31:48.080 And we'll continue to turn the camera on.

00:31:50.820 So even now in this, I'll just say, watch my film.

00:31:53.620 It doesn't matter what they do.

00:31:56.020 Because the monopoly that they have, they don't have anymore.

00:31:58.120 Because luckily we can do interviews like this.

00:31:59.820 And luckily people can find us on X, thanks to Elon Musk, and find us on YouTube and find

00:32:04.180 us on Rumble.

00:32:04.940 One last question before we head down to the courthouse.

00:32:07.960 How's your family holding up?

00:32:09.440 How's my family?

00:32:10.120 I would have loved to have come out.

00:32:11.820 I promised myself when I was in jail that when I come out, I'm going to slow my life

00:32:15.280 down and I'm going to spend time with my family.

00:32:17.400 But because I come out and I knew I had seven days until I was in court, I believe, that's

00:32:21.780 what I believe.

00:32:22.300 I believe they're going to gag me today.

00:32:23.700 I don't know that.

00:32:24.520 But I think their motives for these cases are always to tie me up and silence me.

00:32:29.040 So I think today they'll impose conditions.

00:32:31.340 So I didn't have a choice, but I've worked non-stop for seven days.

00:32:34.180 So I haven't really seen my family.

00:32:37.280 I'm booking clear time in with them from next week.

00:32:39.700 I've just had so much to do, which seems mad because I've been sat in a room for seven

00:32:42.940 months.

00:32:43.180 And to be honest, I come out after seven months in a room and I felt weird.

00:32:46.060 All week I felt weird.

00:32:47.300 I felt weird.

00:32:48.420 But the family, yeah.

00:32:49.960 My family have to watch that video.

00:32:53.760 Like, I just can't believe that I'm the mum being prosecuted.

00:32:56.800 There's no crime.

00:32:57.700 There's no crime.

00:32:58.880 There's no crime to...

00:32:59.920 Journalism.

00:33:00.720 Yeah.

00:33:01.820 Uncontrolled journalism.

00:33:02.760 That's the problem.

00:33:03.300 We're uncontrollable.

00:33:04.240 And the process is the punishment for everybody.

00:33:06.980 Not you.

00:33:07.520 My grand spent a week on this video.

00:33:09.300 Instead of spending a week with my kids.

00:33:10.680 In London today.

00:33:11.980 Bail conditions probably imposed today.

00:33:13.920 Back in court next month.

00:33:15.140 Trial probably going up to 50, 60, 70,000 pounds.

00:33:18.260 And then when you win, because remember, you come for the anti-Semitism rally, yeah? 0.71

00:33:21.480 We come here last time and I won the court case.

00:33:23.540 That cost 40,000 pounds.

00:33:24.980 How much money did we get back?

00:33:26.000 None.

00:33:26.620 They won.

00:33:27.700 So they win.

00:33:28.900 And what it's about is the headlines today.

00:33:30.540 Sorry.

00:33:30.960 What it's about is the headlines today.

00:33:32.380 Yeah?

00:33:32.680 We're here.

00:33:33.680 But the mainstream media, we'll all run with the same narrative and the same headline.

00:33:36.700 And they'll pump it across the country that I've...

00:33:38.640 And if you read the headline, you'll think I've terrorized these two men.

00:33:42.120 I've terrorized them, threatened them, scared them, scared their families.

00:33:44.820 No.

00:33:45.280 Done the total opposite.

00:33:45.960 Made it very clear to them that I'm not going to do the things that they've done.

00:33:52.620 I flew 18 hours one way to be here in London because we can't trust the media in that courtroom behind me.

00:34:00.580 They've already picked a side and they want Tommy Robinson back in a cell.

00:34:04.400 You can follow our full coverage at TommyReports.com and support independent journalism that actually tells you the truth.

00:34:12.280 For Rebel News, here in rainy London, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:34:17.340 You cannot trust the mainstream media to tell you the truth, especially about Tommy Robinson.

00:34:21.980 That's why I flew all the way here.

00:34:24.760 To see and support our independent journalism, follow along at TommyReports.com.

00:34:31.060 Hey, we have a few letters on Tommy Robinson.

00:34:37.720 B. Wind says, he won't want sympathy, but he gets it from me.

00:34:41.680 He looks shaken after his time in prison, but he's a hero for the normal, hardworking British man.

00:34:47.880 I really think he helped move a lot of issues forward.

00:34:50.880 Even his prison sentence.

00:34:52.940 During that time, a lot of things moved because he was in prison.

00:34:56.440 It's amazing to see.

00:34:57.800 Next letter, his previous arrest on the basis that he was suspected of terrorist activities is a ridiculous nonsense and a deliberate abuse.

00:35:06.860 Well, actually, I know a little bit about that.

00:35:09.340 He's being charged under the Terrorism Act, but not for terrorism.

00:35:13.620 For refusing to give the password on his cell phone to the police.

00:35:17.880 He's not accused of terrorism.

00:35:19.080 He just, they stopped him under the Terrorism Act.

00:35:22.020 They said, show us your phone password.

00:35:24.040 He said, get a search warrant.

00:35:25.200 They said, we're charging you.

00:35:26.660 So it's not even terrorism he's been charged with.

00:35:29.680 Ian Blake says, the Daily Mail should be in court, not Tommy Robinson.

00:35:34.060 Yeah, it's sort of incredible that the most rabid paparazzi in the world, like you've got to acknowledge that the paparazzi in London are the most aggressive in the world.

00:35:42.720 It's plausible to say they killed Princess Diana.

00:35:46.380 And someone takes a photo of them and they cry all the way to mama and ask the person who took a photo of them to be jail.

00:35:53.160 Just incredible.

00:35:55.000 That's our show for today.

00:35:56.660 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:36:01.560 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:36:02.740 We'll see you then.

00:36:08.180 Bye for luego.

00:36:21.760 See you then.

00:36:24.080 Bye for now.

00:36:24.560 Bye for now.

00:36:24.880 We'll be right back.

00:36:25.980 Bye.

00:36:27.060 Bye Wars.

00:36:27.520 Bye for now.

00:36:27.880 Bye for now.

00:36:29.740 Bye for now.

00:36:29.960 Bye for now.

00:36:30.540 Bye.

00:36:31.120 Bye for now.

00:36:31.660 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - June 06, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney's border security bill targets Canadians, not criminals

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