Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney's Senate appointment takes another Conservative MP off the board

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Another conservative MP quits because Mark Carney offered him a bribe.

00:00:07.440 Hey, have you heard of Section 119 of the Criminal Code? It deals with bribes for MPs.

00:00:13.380 I'll read it to you and ask you if you think it fits. But first, let me invite you to become

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00:00:30.000 Tonight, Mark Carney bribes another conservative MP, and the Toronto press think that's hilarious.

00:00:47.380 It's July 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:49.800 You're fighting for freedom!

00:00:53.000 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:00.000 Well, today the news comes that Richard Martel, a conservative MP from Quebec, has been appointed

00:01:11.540 to the Senate by Mark Carney, so there will be a by-election opening up in his riding,

00:01:17.080 and it will most likely go to the liberals. Now, this is not the will of the people in

00:01:22.500 the riding. This is not the output of our democratic Rube Goldberg machine. Do you

00:01:28.200 know what I mean by that? Have you ever heard that term? It's those goofy machines that, you know,

00:01:32.840 in a very complex way can do a simple task. I mean, think about how messy our democracy is.

00:01:39.320 Parties have nomination battles. I went through one myself about 30 years ago when I briefly ran

00:01:44.800 for office in Calgary Southwest. You know, they're called primaries in the States, but

00:01:48.940 you have to go door to door. You have to talk to people. You have to sign people up and convince

00:01:54.320 them you have to convince them to pay the five dollars to join the party and you have to make

00:01:58.880 sure they turn out on nomination day and they need to think about what's persuasive and make

00:02:04.700 the case and handle the it's such a big complex machine and you know of course authoritarianism

00:02:12.360 is faster and easier and simpler but that busyness that messiness is the stuff of democracy

00:02:19.460 And it's actually an excellent test of the candidate himself or herself.

00:02:25.080 Can they handle all this? Can they balance everything?

00:02:27.380 Can they balance their own conscience with their duty to represent what the riding believes

00:02:32.860 and their affiliation to a particular party?

00:02:35.700 I mean, that's a very interesting thing.

00:02:37.480 This is all naturally complicated and noisy and imperfect.

00:02:41.580 That's why I'm calling it a Rube Goldberg machine.

00:02:43.720 and that messy process has elected this conservative mp in that riding for eight

00:02:51.820 years now he first got in in the by-election in 2018 he even was promoted to fairly high heights

00:02:58.260 he served for a while as the quebec lieutenant or lieutenant in the party and in fact he was

00:03:03.840 just offered a position and accepted it in the shadow cabinet just a week ago and instead of

00:03:11.260 all that, there was just a bribe that was offered. And we don't know what it was. Was it money? Was

00:03:18.000 it power? Was it influence? Was it access? Was it donations? We don't know. But Mark Carney had a

00:03:24.460 secret parallel process that got him his result. He didn't go through the Rube Goldberg machine,

00:03:32.580 if you take my meaning, that messy democracy thing where you got to go door to door. He just

00:03:37.080 bribed the guy and the bribe was pretty clear get to be in the senate and the delight in the

00:03:44.920 regime media is universal and it's and incredibly the person they're criticizing is pierre poliev 0.53

00:03:54.220 pierre poliev is the loser is he or is our democracy the loser and is it bizarre how the

00:04:03.700 so-called keepers of the flame how the checks and balances are just absolutely the watchdog is 0.61

00:04:11.120 sleeping hey by the way let me read something to you that i know you will not see on the cbc or

00:04:17.720 ctv or toronto star global mail or any of the regime media let me read to you section 119 section

00:04:23.480 119 of the criminal code of canon i'm going to read it all everyone is guilty of an indictable

00:04:30.160 offense and liable for imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years, who, being the

00:04:36.680 holder of a judicial office or being a member of parliament or the legislature of a province,

00:04:42.800 directly or indirectly, corruptly accepts, obtains, agrees to accept, or attempts to

00:04:49.760 obtain for themselves or another person any money, valuable consideration, office, place

00:04:57.060 or employment in respect of anything done or admitted to be done or admitted by them

00:05:00.760 in their official capacity or directly or indirectly corruptly gives or offers to a

00:05:06.940 person mentioned in paragraph a or to anyone for the benefit of that person any money valuable

00:05:12.700 consideration office place your employment in respect of anything done or admitted or to be done

00:05:18.000 in their official capacity let me summarize there was a lot of legalese there

00:05:22.100 if you promise someone an office and by office i don't mean like a room in a building

00:05:26.820 an office is in a political office as in being a senator if you offer someone a political prize

00:05:35.440 like becoming a senator if they do something like resigning that can be taken as a bribe

00:05:43.780 under section 119 did that happen well use your eyes martel was one of the richest appointments

00:05:52.720 in Ottawa. I mean, being made senator until age 75, all expenses paid. You don't have to run for

00:05:58.700 any more elections. You don't have to door knock anymore. You don't have to do that messy Rube

00:06:02.420 Goldberg machine. You don't have to sign people up and get them to buy a membership and make sure

00:06:06.780 they show up and hit that. No, you are set. Martell is just 65. So he's got 10 years of power

00:06:14.400 and pay without having to do anything. I think it was Ernest Manning who once called it a

00:06:20.140 taskless thanks and in return he steps down in the house of commons so mark carney can win a

00:06:28.700 by-election oh here's some cheering for you shocker is from the toronto globe and mail

00:06:34.940 they call their headline the humiliation of pierre polyev continues is that really the heart

00:06:42.420 of this story i mean i think pierre polyev is embarrassed by this i think he would be

00:06:46.340 but is that the center of this story is that the most important thing in this story ha ha

00:06:52.060 pier poliev you sucker is that it or is it that mark carney just bribed a guy to drop out of the

00:06:59.880 house of commons and put him in the senate is is that the the heart of the story a section y 19 0.95

00:07:05.100 of the criminal code or the fact that mark carney is simply undoing our democracy isn't that the

00:07:10.700 center of the story. Let me quote from the Globe. This particular decision is a smart one by Mr.

00:07:17.720 Carney. It shrinks the Conservative caucus by one, of course, but it also means a by-election

00:07:22.840 for the riding of Chicoutimi Lafjord, which the Tories held just three percentage points

00:07:27.020 in the last election. There were just 37 votes separating the bloc's second place ranking

00:07:32.040 from the Liberals' third in that election, and if the results of the redo in Terrebonne are any

00:07:38.680 indication. Mr. Carney has a good shot of fortifying his majority with another seat in

00:07:43.120 Quebec. Mr. Paglia, meanwhile, is forced to exit the premises to the sound of a sad trombone.

00:07:48.880 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Watching from the outside as his own plans are enacted by the

00:07:55.360 prime minister. His own plans, eh? Is that what Mark Carney's doing? He's doing conservative

00:07:59.600 plans. This is hilarious. That sad trombone. Wah wah wah wah. Oh, the Globe and Mail. They are

00:08:08.380 this serious newspaper of record if you want to know what's important in can the politically

00:08:13.380 policy parliament go to the globe and mail they'll tell you about the sad trombone and the humiliation

00:08:19.700 um i think it is humiliating for paulia but i think it's more humiliating for our democracy

00:08:26.400 and for the voters of that riding who just had their wishes undone um that noisy hard business

00:08:34.580 of winning elections, first the party primary, then the general election, it has been replaced

00:08:38.680 by Prime Minister Mark Carney with whatever bribe fits the occasion. And by the way, Alberta

00:08:45.840 watches this and sees that the system, the rules don't really apply to the Laurentian elites,

00:08:51.820 neither the political elites nor the media elites. This is the Canada that Albertans should be so

00:08:59.300 proud of. This is the Canada that Albertans should never leave. You can't do better than

00:09:04.360 this, Alberta. The Globe has lots of advice for Pierre Polyev. Let me quote a little bit more

00:09:09.040 from the article. More than 87% of delegates supported him, Polyev, in a leadership review

00:09:14.540 back in January. But that was two floor crossers, one MP's jump to the Senate, and one liberal

00:09:19.640 majority lock ago. Mr. Polyev seems to be holding on for dear life. Is that how it seems from Toronto,

00:09:27.640 Do you have a particular insight?

00:09:30.740 It just seems to you that way?

00:09:33.200 I don't know.

00:09:33.960 I think the party, the Conservative Party,

00:09:35.520 would give Polyev in the 80% range again.

00:09:38.880 I don't think Parliament is a game to most people

00:09:42.300 like it is to the gossips of the Globe and Mail

00:09:44.840 who, instead of criticizing the bribery,

00:09:47.360 find it endlessly amusing.

00:09:50.520 You know, there are a few things afoot here.

00:09:52.260 One is Doug Ford's delusional idea

00:09:54.840 that he can become prime minister.

00:09:57.840 Ontario premiers don't go to the Calgary Stampede with media in tow

00:10:00.780 if they're not running for prime minister. 0.86

00:10:02.660 So all of his hangers-on are trying to undermine Polyam

00:10:05.640 because they want the job for their guy.

00:10:08.540 And then there's the media itself, including the Globe and Mail,

00:10:10.920 but more accurately, the regime media panels.

00:10:13.740 You know, those TV panels, CTV, CBC, Global,

00:10:16.500 their so-called conservative panelists are all against Polyam.

00:10:20.300 Do you notice that?

00:10:22.360 You know, I remember that from 30 years ago

00:10:23.960 when I worked for Preston Manning on Parliament Hill.

00:10:26.020 I remember when a conservative lobbyist from Newfoundland named Tim Powers went on CTV's panels as a conservative strategist, but he had nothing to do with the Reform Party.

00:10:38.700 He was the Reform strategist, the strategist on the right.

00:10:42.620 He was there really despite Preston Manning.

00:10:45.780 He disagreed with Preston Manning.

00:10:47.820 He had no insight into the party.

00:10:50.380 it was just to pump up his personal brand so he could sell his lobbying services i'm not picking

00:10:56.860 on tim powers i'm just giving him as an example ctv said no we think tim powers is a conservative

00:11:02.720 party or then that time reform party spokesman he wasn't um but all these lobbyists go on tv

00:11:09.060 so they can sell their customers on how much access and influence they have they want to show

00:11:16.600 that they're being connected and powerful and so you have these lobbyists on tv and they do not

00:11:22.040 support peer poly of even though they're called the conservative so you got doug ford's people

00:11:27.120 you got the media you have the anti-poly of conservative lobbyists in the media so it's

00:11:32.020 unanimous um a cbc lobbyist panel a global male pundit they all have the same view about peer

00:11:38.760 poly of including um the one guy you might think would be on his side on the panel so it feels

00:11:43.740 like conventional wisdom doesn't it since everyone agrees except everyone doesn't agree just the

00:11:49.780 inside track people the regime people the parliament hill people the lobbyist people

00:11:53.640 like the alberta independence people say um canada's broken stay with us for more

00:12:00.900 well another week another pipeline holy smokes if announcements were the real thing we would

00:12:14.820 have more pipelines than any country in the world in recent months mark carney and his new major

00:12:20.620 projects office has been focusing on getting a deal in alberta so he says he even traveled to

00:12:27.040 British Columbia to sit down with the obstinate and obstreperous Premier out there, David Eby,

00:12:33.240 and paid him billions of dollars to turn the other cheek when Alberta proposes to put a pipeline

00:12:39.440 through, even though, of course, it's the federal jurisdiction and we don't need Premier Eby's

00:12:45.180 approval. I remain extremely skeptical that any of these pipeline proposals will go forward,

00:12:51.520 Not just for the obvious reasons that there will most likely be a rogue judge who invents some new indigenous title to the land, that there will be, you know, any sorts of actual holdups.

00:13:05.400 But I think that when the oil companies look at this, they say, yeah, that's just not the best risk adjusted rate of return.

00:13:14.120 We can do better in Venezuela or even in Iran than we can do in Alberta.

00:13:21.840 I sense that there will be no takers for these other than politicians who want to talk about pipeline proposals.

00:13:29.580 I'm a super skeptic.

00:13:31.100 But joining us now via Edmonton is someone who I think is optimistic, more optimistic than me.

00:13:37.620 He's our old friend, Lorne Gunter.

00:13:38.720 And his column in the Edmonton Journal is entitled, New Plan for All Canadian Pipeline is Good News.

00:13:45.100 We cannot be held hostage if the oil needed in central Canada passes through an exclusively Canadian pipeline.

00:13:51.720 That's a reference to the second pipeline announcement made by Doug Ford and Peter Smith.

00:13:57.180 Joining us now is Lorne Gunter.

00:13:58.600 Lorne, great to see you again.

00:13:59.420 I sort of rambled a bit there between the two different pipeline proposals.

00:14:03.100 One is Mark Carney, who wants to push through B.C. along the same line as the Trans Mountain Pipeline so it would come out in Vancouver.

00:14:11.740 But the one you're talking about specifically is one that Doug Ford said he's behind, which would be a pipeline from Alberta to Ontario.

00:14:18.680 So hopefully I didn't muddle it too much.

00:14:20.820 In back-to-back columns, I talked first about the federal one and then second about the all-Canadian one.

00:14:28.660 Do I think it's going to get built between Alberta and Ontario?

00:14:33.680 I don't know.

00:14:35.100 I, like you, think that an awful lot of the oil company CEOs are going to look at this

00:14:40.220 and say, this doesn't make any economic sense.

00:14:44.000 When you take a look at the conditions Carney is putting on,

00:14:49.220 the preconditions he's putting on the federal pipeline to the West Coast,

00:14:52.900 and one of them is this pathways, carbon capture, utilization, and storage requirement

00:14:59.680 that could cost the oil companies up to $20 billion,

00:15:03.940 could cost them up to $30 billion,

00:15:05.620 which is about the same price as the pipeline.

00:15:07.700 Well, if you're going to have to charge double for a pipeline,

00:15:11.300 you're not going to get it built.

00:15:12.480 Nobody's going to say yes.

00:15:13.900 They're probably not going to say yes at $30 billion.

00:15:17.020 My concern there is that we're going to end up

00:15:20.740 with another Trans Mountain.

00:15:22.400 And it's a government-owned pipeline.

00:15:24.600 We're going to see the government of Alberta

00:15:26.420 use the heritage fund to pay for another pipeline and then we're all going to claim victory well

00:15:34.660 the victory would be if the federal government unfettered the oil companies and said look you

00:15:42.660 have our authorization because under the constitution we have the power to assert this

00:15:49.060 through you have our authorization to go ahead and figure out what the market cost is of this

00:15:56.260 pipeline and see if somebody will buy into it let's just talk for one more moment about the

00:16:02.100 ontario one because right now oil does go to ontario but it sort of dips down into the u.s

00:16:09.280 just that just happens to be the root and to me if i understand correctly and learn correct me if

00:16:14.520 i'm wrong i think that the thesis or the rationale for this uh northern shield as they're calling it

00:16:23.200 would be that it never leaves Canadian turf so it doesn't go to the states because there's some

00:16:28.900 question could it be subject to political or even environmental concerns down there could they

00:16:36.160 somehow block it which would cut off Ontario oil because it's Alberta oil that dips down and goes

00:16:41.640 through sort of like you can drive east and west you can drive it through the states a bit instead

00:16:46.620 of Canada but the likelihood of that happening I think is quite small it's not happening now

00:16:52.180 this new northern shield if it were ever built would maybe be around 10 years from now no one's

00:16:58.440 going to build a pipeline without a guarantee of customers which wouldn't happen if the current

00:17:03.560 situation was fine it just seems like such a made-up brainstorm idea i think the obstacles

00:17:09.780 to the alberta to ontario pipeline are less they're lower they're easier to overcome than

00:17:16.300 and the Alberta through BC to the West Coast pipeline.

00:17:21.620 There are only two provinces between Ontario and Alberta.

00:17:24.420 If Ontario and Alberta want this pipeline, all they have to do is to get Saskatchewan

00:17:29.420 and Manitoba to sign on Saskatchewan is basically already signed on.

00:17:34.260 The wild card is Wab Canoe, the premier NDP premier in in Manitoba, but he's shown himself

00:17:41.720 fairly pro-development in the time he's been in office although admittedly it's pro-development

00:17:49.640 of manitoba resources i i'm not sure he's all that keen to have a pipeline go past winnipeg

00:17:56.840 on its way around the great lakes in behind ontario to sarnia the big disadvantage of the

00:18:04.600 Alberta-Ontario pipeline is, if you go through Saskatchewan to North Dakota, then into Minnesota,

00:18:13.320 Wisconsin, and Michigan, it's about 2,700 miles. If you go around the Great Lakes,

00:18:19.880 it's closer to 3,400 miles. The reason that that pipeline went through where it did in the 1950s,

00:18:27.360 it was the most direct and efficient route. And all the states along the route, they were quite

00:18:33.240 happy for the development pipelines are not that intrusive yeah you know there's maybe there's a

00:18:40.680 quarter of a mile or a half of a mile of sort of a right away where the pipeline is but basically

00:18:47.580 once you got them up especially if they're buried you don't see them you don't hear them they you

00:18:53.660 know they they don't spew anything out unless there's a leak and and so you can make them very

00:19:00.780 safe. You can make them very quiet and visible. And that's why in the 50s, people said, yeah,

00:19:07.560 sure, sure, run through our state. Then you get Gretchen Whitmer, who is a sort of ultra green 1.00

00:19:14.400 Democrat who became the governor of Michigan. And she started making up excuses why the Enbridge 0.98

00:19:22.020 pipeline that goes under the Straits of Mackinac in northern Michigan was this huge environmental

00:19:28.860 risk. It was a terrible threat to the Great Lakes. And so she started fighting in court

00:19:36.760 with Enbridge that they should not be able to build a new tunnel or a new bridge for this

00:19:44.160 pipeline. And they have been in court since I think it's 2020, it might be 2021, but they've

00:19:50.520 been in court for a very long time. And I'm kind of, I'm kind of worried that Enbridge is going

00:19:59.400 to lose. They, the Supreme Court of the US ruled that Enbridge had taken too long to move this case

00:20:06.420 to federal court, where it would have gotten a more favorable hearing. So now it has to go to

00:20:11.620 the state Supreme Court in Michigan, and they could easily withdraw the permits for the pipeline,

00:20:18.720 And then you're humped. So that's one of the reasons I think behind Ford's interest in the Northern Shield is that well over half of Ontario's home heating fuel at natural gas comes from Alberta.

00:20:37.780 And it goes through this pipeline, which is called Line 3, to Sarnia, where Ontario has its big refineries.

00:20:46.940 And they then use it to make propane, jet fuel, gasoline, all those sorts of things that Ontarians need.

00:20:55.660 If it was suddenly cut off, the Ontarians would be in real trouble because they don't import, can't import as much foreign oil as Quebec does.

00:21:07.120 So he's keen on this.

00:21:10.600 The thing I find funny about this is,

00:21:12.580 we could use this pipeline corridor

00:21:15.240 to send critical minerals to Alberta.

00:21:19.900 Okay, well, we don't have any refining capacity at the moment.

00:21:22.420 I guess we could have this big stockpile with tarps over it

00:21:25.440 of lithium or cobalt or something of that sort.

00:21:29.800 But I guess if we developed a domestic metal refining capacity,

00:21:35.740 it would be a good thing. But I think there are fewer obstacles. There are going to be First

00:21:42.120 Nations around the northern edge of the Great Lakes that don't like the idea of the pipeline.

00:21:47.920 But I don't think they're as radical and militant as the First Nations in northern BC were who

00:21:55.320 forced this West Coast pipeline to go down the old Trans Mountain right away. So, you know,

00:22:04.020 Well, I just think that, yes, there are many of the same obstacles, but I don't think they're hard to overcome as the West Coast one.

00:22:13.840 Are we going to have either pipeline?

00:22:16.060 I'm probably under 50-50.

00:22:18.080 You know, 20 years ago, there was no controversy about pipelines, none.

00:22:26.320 In fact, I recall reading the Canadian regulatory review on the Canadian side of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, and I think there was a grand total of one people who was not actually involved with one member of the public who had something to say.

00:22:45.580 One.

00:22:46.880 And he was just worried about his land.

00:22:48.460 I'm going from memory here.

00:22:49.300 Now it's a completely politicized system because pipelines are so innocuous.

00:22:54.140 Like you say, they're invisible and they're as normal as having an electricity line.

00:23:00.500 I mean, in fact, every house I know of has two pipelines in it.

00:23:06.160 One is toxic.

00:23:08.480 It's your sewer pipe.

00:23:09.860 The other is explosive.

00:23:12.280 That's your natural gas pipe.

00:23:13.980 But it's completely normal.

00:23:15.880 Every single home in Canada has two little pipes in it.

00:23:19.300 And it's just normal, normal, normal.

00:23:21.240 But you dump a billion dollars worth of propaganda in it and suddenly it's dangerous. 0.99

00:23:26.700 I think that Wab Kanu would absolutely kill it.

00:23:29.660 He killed a large data center proposal just because.

00:23:33.240 Because he read some blog that it was bad.

00:23:36.100 And he does a lot of deep thinking on his own.

00:23:39.500 I think that's what happened.

00:23:40.720 Now, maybe Mark Carney goes to Wab Kanu and does the same thing he did with David Eby,

00:23:47.660 which is give them $18 billion worth of unrelated federal grants in order to buy the approval of the B.C. government.

00:23:58.620 Maybe Bob wants $10 billion, $12 billion for his approval in Manitoba.

00:24:04.460 But there are going to be obstacles, and every obstacle adds a cost.

00:24:11.420 Every additional cost scares away investors.

00:24:15.640 So do I think either one of these are going to be built?

00:24:20.200 I don't know.

00:24:21.040 But, you know, you look at Keystone, you had to run it from Alberta across Saskatchewan

00:24:24.780 into the northern states.

00:24:27.520 And Saskatchewan was all in favor of it.

00:24:30.140 And Alberta, of course, was in favor of it.

00:24:32.020 So it was a no-brainer.

00:24:33.340 It was a slam dunk.

00:24:34.860 But then the left wing of the Democratic Party got Obama's ear when he was president

00:24:41.800 and got him to stop it.

00:24:44.060 you know the whole thing is very depressing um i saw in the news that i think it was united

00:24:49.600 arab emirates wanted to invest billions of dollars and mark carney's major projects office

00:24:54.640 says we're not ready to accept the money ready um i don't really know who's in the major projects

00:25:01.420 office it is an additional layer of political bureaucracy that did not exist we things were

00:25:07.940 built by the private sector they were built at the speed of the private sector before and

00:25:13.220 And, like, what is Mark Carney even doing as an interlocutor?

00:25:17.900 Like, why is he a link in the chain here?

00:25:20.760 This is absolutely what the Soviets called Goss Plan, the centrally planned economy.

00:25:26.600 And Mark Carney believes he's always the smartest guy in every room.

00:25:30.280 Now, we're talking now about two autocratic governments, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

00:25:38.180 But they have both decided they're going to build pipelines from their oil fields past the Strait of Hormuz, below the Strait of Hormuz, out to the Arabian Gulf.

00:25:50.360 And it's going to take them three years.

00:25:52.640 Now, terrain is easy, right?

00:25:54.920 You're going across open desert.

00:25:57.720 You're not displacing indigenous people. 0.99

00:26:00.240 A lot of the obstacles that we're facing, they don't face.

00:26:03.800 And they're autocratic regimes.

00:26:06.060 So they can say, we're building this pipeline.

00:26:07.840 Get out of the way. But it can be done in a hurry if you have the desire to do it.

00:26:17.040 I just, to me, the ultimate test is that no one in the private sector wants it.

00:26:22.000 Our reporter, Angelica Toy, put that very question to Premier Smith.

00:26:26.760 She didn't much like it. Here's that brief exchange in Calgary the other day.

00:26:31.000 Our reporter, Angelica, take a look.

00:26:32.780 Premier Smith, the Southwell Pipeline to the U.S. is fully subscribed.

00:26:37.160 It has signed contracts with so many oil producers, it will be full for the next 20 years.

00:26:41.900 The Kearney Pipeline project has no customers signed up.

00:26:44.820 Isn't it obvious that no one in the industry actually believes this is going to be built?

00:26:48.560 Certainly not enough to put their own money into it.

00:26:51.500 Well, thanks for the nice neutral question.

00:26:54.700 I would say it's a bit premature to make that point.

00:26:58.260 I think that what we've done with our West Coast Pipeline is announced an intention for the federal and provincial government to work together.

00:27:04.740 We've got a private proponent.

00:27:06.220 We have to make sure that we can get all of the Indigenous consultation and ownership stake, make sure that we do the environmental approvals.

00:27:14.320 And I have absolute confidence with the conversations that we've been having with the Pathways Group that we will get those commitments.

00:27:20.260 Remember, you can start a pipeline with a smaller amount going through it, and then you can do compression, just like we're seeing with the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:27:27.400 They began with a little bit of a smaller volume, but they're also increasing now up to 300,000 barrels.

00:27:34.100 I think it's our job to make sure that we can expand the industry by 2 million barrels.

00:27:38.920 So not only can we fill the South Bow line, we can fill the West Coast line,

00:27:42.580 we can fill our new northern, what were we calling yours?

00:27:47.700 North?

00:27:48.600 Northern Shield.

00:27:49.700 Northern Shield.

00:27:50.560 our new Northern Shield pipeline, and also be able to serve North, South, East, West.

00:27:58.120 I mean, this is the whole point of what we were trying to do in building out economic

00:28:01.380 corridors, so I think it's a great project.

00:28:03.780 We have to remember a few years ago, we were talking about projects in all direction.

00:28:07.320 We were talking about Northern Gateway, Keystone, and Energy East, and for various reasons for

00:28:11.100 each of them, because of regulatory uncertainty or because of permits being canceled, they

00:28:16.420 ended up all stalling.

00:28:17.320 So this is resurrecting all three of those concepts, perhaps on different quarters with some different partners.

00:28:23.440 But I feel like the industry was there 10 years ago.

00:28:26.280 They can be there again.

00:28:27.580 I mean, she didn't like the question.

00:28:29.460 She promised that – well, she didn't promise.

00:28:31.780 She says she thinks that the industry will come.

00:28:35.600 I mean, I suppose if taxpayers spend $35 billion building a pipeline, maybe someone will put oil in it.

00:28:44.480 I mean, if it's built.

00:28:45.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they didn't have to pay for the pipeline, you'd have people lined up to put oil and gas and everything else in that pipeline tomorrow.

00:28:55.420 Provided, of course, too, that the feds could sign off on expansion of the oil center.

00:29:01.900 We have more than enough oil to fill all those pipelines, keep them all busy for years and years and years.

00:29:09.040 The problems are twofold. One is no private sector company wants to pay for the pipeline itself. And the federal government still stands in the way of expanding the oil sands and expanding our production capacity.

00:29:25.840 so until those are sold we are going to have trouble filling those pipelines but i think it's

00:29:31.900 funny that during that question smith had to ask ford what the name of the new pipeline was because

00:29:39.960 she had clearly never heard of it before never seen the proposal until that morning while they're

00:29:46.380 flipping pancakes and doug says hey why don't we build a pipeline from alberta to ontario and uh

00:29:52.860 and and you can fill it with oil i i still think strategically it's a not it's not a bad idea to

00:29:58.160 build a pipeline around the great lakes all in canadian soil tell gretchen whitmer that she can

00:30:04.580 stuff it um but uh but am i like you said i think you said at the beginning you were a cynic i wrote

00:30:13.500 the other day that i started off as a cynic and i've moved up to skeptic but i'm still skeptical

00:30:20.260 that this is going to happen.

00:30:21.400 Well, let me say one last thing

00:30:22.720 about a possible crisis in Ontario

00:30:25.240 if Michigan gets its way

00:30:27.420 and if there's a radical Democrat 0.93

00:30:29.080 that stops the pipeline.

00:30:30.640 Of course, I don't want that to happen.

00:30:32.020 I'm in exile in here in Ontario.

00:30:33.760 Now I'm an Ontarian.

00:30:34.740 I don't want there to be disruption.

00:30:36.360 But I got to tell you, Lorne,

00:30:38.120 it would focus the mind of Ontarians.

00:30:40.300 It would focus the mind of Mark Carney.

00:30:42.380 And it would make him build a pipeline,

00:30:44.280 not in 10 years,

00:30:45.360 but like you say, in two or three.

00:30:47.060 um and it would uh have a come to a truth moment about emissions because hey you guys have always

00:30:55.140 been against oil this is your time to shine and and i mean it would just force so many things it

00:31:01.880 reminds me a little bit of when the saskatchewan potash company called nutrient decided that they

00:31:08.000 were going to go down into the u.s to the west coast rather than vancouver and you heard david

00:31:13.320 he be pouting how come you don't how come you don't want to do that through bc how come how

00:31:17.800 well because you've told us a thousand times you don't want us so we believed you and we found out

00:31:24.880 that a foreign country is friendlier to us than you are and you know the irony is they're coming

00:31:30.540 out at wash vancouver washington right rather than vancouver bc it's incredible it's so they're

00:31:37.160 going to vancouver they're just not going to the vancouver and you know what maybe uh the the likes

00:31:42.900 of stephen gilbeau and mark carney need to i mean i don't want it to happen but boy it would be an

00:31:47.700 educational it would be what they call a teaching moment if it did happen it would be the fulfillment

00:31:52.640 of something ralph klein said yeah close to 25 close to 30 years ago now let the eastern

00:31:59.900 so-and-so's freeze in the dark um and uh yeah i think it would focus people's mind i i can see an

00:32:08.180 upside to the Democratic politicians along the route in the US pulling permits on line three.

00:32:16.500 Because as you say, it would focus Ontarians and much of Quebec's propane comes through line three.

00:32:24.820 And Quebec uses more propane for heating and farm use than any other province. So it has its

00:32:34.500 its implications all the way across the east so yeah i'm okay with that well great to catch up

00:32:40.480 with you once again folks if you want to read lauren's column it's in the edmonton journal

00:32:44.000 today headline we cannot be held hostage if the oil needed in central canada passes through an

00:32:49.920 exclusively canadian pipeline sorry the actual headline is new plan for all canadian pipeline

00:32:54.320 is good news well i hope it becomes good news but i am pessimistic keep in touch my friend thanks

00:32:59.600 for taking the time you bet right on there he is lauren country stay with us your letters to me

00:33:03.880 next hey welcome back your letters to me about the regina police department sofa king 77 says

00:33:20.140 regina resident here please keep it up there's homeless people and drugs all over the core of

00:33:24.040 the city yeah this is the police focus yeah i mean regina i mean a very friendly city um

00:33:30.220 it has a crime problem proportionately it is one of the most crime ridden cities in canada i know

00:33:36.740 that may come as a surprise to people but it is i think the police have better things to do

00:33:41.200 besides threatening hate crime charges on people who don't like the mosque blaring the call to

00:33:46.100 prayer veto anthony d says a lot of canadians are feeling pushed past their comfort zone right now

00:33:52.200 the call to prayer being amplified over neighborhoods is not something most people

00:33:55.620 ever asked for and is not unreasonable to say it goes beyond what many are willing to accept.

00:34:00.500 That is not hate. That is a community reacting to a major change in public space.

00:34:05.560 What is disturbing is how the police are handling it. Instead of open debate at City Hall

00:34:09.840 and instead of public consultation, the Regina police made the decision themselves and then

00:34:14.840 publicly warned citizens that objecting the wrong way could lead to hate crime charges.

00:34:19.480 That is not neutral policing. That is pressure and, more shockingly, messaging meant to intimidate

00:34:25.360 dissent. Yeah, I mean, why did they have the police cars there the other day, and yet they

00:34:29.800 wouldn't talk to me? Anyways, it was a petty thing when they banned me on Twitter, but I'm not going

00:34:34.740 to roll over for them. I'm going to see what happens. We sent them the lawyer's letter a

00:34:38.500 couple days ago. We'll see what they do. Well, that's our show for the day. Until tomorrow,

00:34:43.260 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:34:46.520 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - July 09, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney's Senate appointment takes another Conservative MP off the board

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