Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney's unholy alliance with Doug Ford kills U.S. trade talks

00:00:00.000 hello my friends what an explosive controversy doug ford's 75 million dollar attack ad against

00:00:06.100 donald trump well that didn't end well and now canada's paying the price but did ford mean to

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00:00:39.600 government and it shows tonight trump suspends all trade talks with canada blaming a tv ad campaign

00:00:46.360 by doug ford but what's really going on it's october 24th and this is the as with the vance show

00:00:55.460 shame on you you censorious last night u.s president donald trump announced that he was

00:01:10.420 suspending all trade talks with canada he said he was doing this in reaction to an ad campaign

00:01:16.900 that premier doug ford from ontario was running in the united states an excerpt from a speech by the late

00:01:24.500 president ronald reagan about tariffs here's an excerpt from that speech from that ad high tariffs

00:01:31.220 inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars then the

00:01:38.020 worst happens markets shrink and collapse businesses and industries shut down and millions of people lose

00:01:44.860 their jobs throughout the world there's a growing realization that the way to prosperity for all

00:01:51.960 nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and free competition america's

00:01:59.240 jobs and growth are at stake

00:02:06.200 now reagan really did say those things he believed in free trade and lower tariffs

00:02:11.560 we know that because he negotiated an enormous free trade deal with canada and he deregulated the u.s

00:02:17.480 economy but reagan said other things too in the same speech too about how tariffs can and should be used

00:02:25.800 for temporary purposes if foreign trade is skewed in certain ways obviously those parts were left out of

00:02:32.840 the speech now news reports say the government of ontario has spent 75 million dollars on that ad now i i

00:02:42.680 honestly find that hard to believe that is so massive i mean for comparison the national uh firearms

00:02:50.840 association the national rifle association excuse me only spent 10 million dollars in the last election

00:02:56.840 cycle is this ad really multiple times more costly elon musk a staggering expenditure of a hundred million

00:03:04.600 dollars in the last election did ontario really spend 75 million now some people are cheering at trump's

00:03:13.880 reaction they say it proves how effective the ad was well yeah i mean it did get a reaction if that's

00:03:22.680 what you mean by effective but i'm not sure that's the same as effective in terms of getting what canada needs

00:03:28.600 i mean bob ray canada's top diplomat at the un was gleefully retweeting american political enemies of

00:03:36.840 trump who were cheering for the ad now i'm not a master diplomat myself but it seems to me that if you're

00:03:43.240 trying to persuade trump to change course and be more solicitous towards canada joining his partisan enemies

00:03:51.960 in a good laugh at trump might not be something you want your top diplomat in new york doing on twitter but

00:03:58.120 i don't know what do i know but what should canada do now should the ads keep running is that a good

00:04:06.920 idea does anyone think it is does anyone think that donald trump is just moments away from collapsing

00:04:12.840 and giving canada everything we need seriously other than some partisan cheering does anyone think this

00:04:18.680 ad actually worked does anyone understand why doug ford a provincial premier is mucking around in

00:04:24.440 foreign affairs does anyone think he's better at that than our entire foreign affairs department in

00:04:30.120 ottawa or the hundreds who work in the canadian embassy in washington dc i mean here's a few of

00:04:36.360 doug ford's classic diplomatic moments these past months the dollars of contracts that we have with the

00:04:43.240 us uh we are the largest purchaser of alcohol in the world we buy over 3600 products from 35 states

00:04:51.400 i talked to the governor of kentucky and uh mitch mcconnell don't touch our bourbon i'm going after

00:04:57.240 absolutely everything and i don't want to uh we we keep the lights on the 1.5 million homes and

00:05:04.520 manufacturing in new york in michigan and in minnesota if he wants to destroy our economy and our

00:05:11.640 families i will shut down the electricity going down to the u.s and i i'm telling you we will do it

00:05:19.080 it's unfortunate i would rather ship you more electricity ship you more critical minerals i

00:05:24.280 want to ship you more energy more potash to keep your farmers going and uranium that you use for uh

00:05:31.640 your nuclear power uh it comes through from saskatchewan over to ontario and and it's going to be a

00:05:39.160 massive massive problem uh i'm telling you we love the americans love americans i love the u.s

00:05:46.760 everyone does and not one american friend when i lived there for 20 years i've talked to all of

00:05:52.440 them hardcore republicans are saying this is the biggest mistake uh president trump has done and

00:05:57.960 we're dead against it i have yet to find more supports them if they want to try to annihilate

00:06:03.880 ontario i will do everything uh including cut off their energy with a smile on my face

00:06:10.200 so and i'm encouraging every other province to do the same quebec manitoba bc we all have to act in

00:06:17.800 unison out east they rely on our energy they need to feel the pain they want to come at us hard we're

00:06:24.520 going to come back twice as hard so i appreciate the uh question sorry i'm getting a little passionate

00:06:30.360 today about this because that guy drives me crazy down south i'll tell you and 41 million other canadians

00:06:40.280 we also uh need to learn more about uh about where the government's retaliatory tariffs i'm a strong

00:06:47.800 believer in retaliatory tariffs you you can't uh let someone hit you over the head with a sledgehammer

00:06:53.080 without hitting him back twice as twice as hard in my opinion now i've never met trump myself but

00:06:59.080 i'm not sure if threatening to illegally cut off electricity contracts from canada that go to

00:07:05.000 millions of americans in the northeast i'm not sure that's the kind of thing that wins over this

00:07:09.880 particular u.s president there's no way that doug ford and mark carney two best friends as they

00:07:15.880 constantly remind us aren't operating as a tag team here there's no way that mark carney didn't sign off on

00:07:21.480 this and the regime media loves it but activity and insults are not a substitute for a strategy

00:07:29.480 here's mark carney this week saying that our trade relationship with america is dead what the old

00:07:37.240 relationship we had with the united states based on deepening integration of our economies and tight

00:07:42.680 security and military cooperations is over so so it is dead or or you want it to be dead is he pronouncing

00:07:53.240 it dead does he not know that sometimes negotiations have dramatic moments in it that are just posturing

00:07:59.480 and puffery is it his preference that our trade relationship be dead how does that square with his

00:08:05.960 promises to work with trump i don't think mark carney has a clue i think he's a classic case of

00:08:13.480 over promise under deliver being promoted to the level of his incompetence you ever heard that phrase

00:08:18.200 before that's why he keeps going on these junkets overseas he hates being in question period or

00:08:23.400 answering reporters even his own government reporters he hates parliament and any other mechanisms

00:08:28.760 designed for transparency and accountability he prefers foreign meetings the sort he mastered

00:08:34.200 when he was a director of the world economic forum no opposition no accountability no free press no

00:08:39.800 ethics registry no lobbyist registry mark carney's constant foreign trips are an attempt to recapture

00:08:45.800 that world of luxury and no accountability but canada is in a crisis how do you solve a problem like

00:08:53.000 trump carney made that the ballot question in the election he claimed he was the trump whisperer but

00:08:59.880 but it never looked convincing to me he bashed trump and insulted trump on the campaign trail but then

00:09:05.320 he was obsequious and submissive during their meetings and so far absolutely nothing has been achieved by

00:09:13.720 the way doug ford has said he will suspend the ads but only after this weekend's world series game

00:09:21.640 carney has now taken to boasting about the canada u.s free trade deal that was negotiated years ago claiming that

00:09:28.840 status quo as some sort of personal achievement but look carney has actually not achieved anything and

00:09:34.360 if you think about it he's never actually been a business executive in the arena solving problems he was

00:09:39.240 a chairman of brookfield which is a figurehead a meeting chair a spokes model he was an analyst at

00:09:46.760 goldman sachs same thing he was a critic he was a voyeur he was a consultant but never a doer

00:09:51.880 those jobs are very different from actually running a business and leading any random

00:09:58.600 owner of a convenience store has more business experience than mark carney tell me one thing

00:10:03.560 that carney has accomplished in 225 days as prime minister that's how long it's been

00:10:09.720 now compare that to what trump has done in 225 days or a little bit less a little bit more sorry

00:10:16.040 carney brought a fresh list of buzzwords to the pmo that trudeau didn't use transformational

00:10:22.360 catalyzing decisive action generational ai you know he sounded really fresh for about 30 seconds until it

00:10:29.720 became clear he just mixes and remixes that jargon in every statement like trudeau's word salads there's

00:10:34.840 nothing under the words there's nothing in the suit there's no there there first thing we need

00:10:40.200 uh is to recognize that we need to use scarce dollars to the maximum effect uh this isn't

00:10:46.680 just about bigger volumes it's about using scarce public dollars to maximum effect um and that is

00:10:53.160 catalyzing financial instruments using risk mitigation tools to better allocate risk between

00:10:58.520 the public and private sector i will just refer for speed uh to the agenda of the private sector

00:11:03.800 investment lab uh and what the world bank has been doing on risk management the second point

00:11:08.120 is crowding in institutional capital through originate to distribute models there's a lot

00:11:13.240 of words there what it basically means is recycling the balance sheets of our international financial

00:11:19.640 institutions so they are there catalyzing the new lending once it matures it's parked off to other

00:11:26.760 holders they can hold it for the long term and it's all about action new action at the uh mdbs the third

00:11:33.640 point is strengthening the structures processes governance of the institutions to put it into

00:11:40.280 plain words uh the shareholders should be looking at key performance indicators that are directly tied of

00:11:46.600 course to the sustainable development goals but also absolute volumes of capital that are moving

00:11:53.000 right now is the biggest crisis in mark carney's short tenure doug ford with no constitutional authority

00:12:00.120 let alone the approval of canadians especially from outside his province has become the de facto

00:12:04.920 negotiator with trump and ford's style is a combination of insults like calling trump a tyrant

00:12:11.320 and an unconvincing attempt to out bully trump my number one job is make sure we protect the people

00:12:18.680 of ontario i need to protect the communities against that tyrant south of the border which drives me

00:12:24.440 absolutely nuts and we'll always be there to protect the families and businesses who call our province

00:12:30.600 home ford is normally despised by the regime media in ontario but they love his anti-trump outburst so

00:12:37.800 they made him canada's face in the u.s while carney runs away imagine making a statement in french which

00:12:44.360 carney did today so the americans can't understand it and then running away without answering any questions

00:12:49.400 carney is hiding and letting doug ford his sole provincial ally fill the gap look the problem

00:12:55.720 with the ad wasn't the ad it was that ford was trying to hustle trump and hustle commerce secretary

00:13:02.840 howard lutnik and and was spending that money campaigning during an election year it's always

00:13:07.880 election year down there they correctly the americans correctly have identified ford as carney's attack dog

00:13:15.000 don't they know that trump always engages in tit for tat if you push him he pushes back of course

00:13:21.400 they know that but as foreign minister anita anand announced the other day they're all fine with this

00:13:28.920 after all they seek to realign canada towards china seriously she just said that she had a great meeting

00:13:35.480 with the chinese not so good with the americans but the chinese lover now i don't know how to negotiate

00:13:40.600 with trump to save ontario's auto factories i don't know i don't know if it's possible but i didn't

00:13:45.880 promise millions of canadians that i had a secret ability to connect with trump like carney did occam's

00:13:51.480 razor suggests an explanation here maybe this is exactly what carney wants for a decade at the world

00:13:58.520 economic forum mark carney has been promoting decarbonization he's been promoting stakeholder

00:14:05.240 capitalism that is socialism he was the u.n climate ambassador he laid an industry movement to debank

00:14:14.440 oil companies his wife diana fox is even more extreme than carney is going to be the carney 1.00

00:14:21.400 is actually fine with all this in fact that he's glad he can blame an external bogeyman for it all

00:14:27.320 the de-industrialization of ontario the de-marketing of the oil sands the de-linking

00:14:33.960 of canada to the u.s moving towards a more china-centric world defying western alliances

00:14:39.480 putting the u.n and palestine ahead of traditional bilateral relationships with the u.s

00:14:45.960 israel and nato countries oh and by the way don't forget that mark carney refused to sell any of his 600

00:14:52.040 different stocks when he became prime minister only five percent of his companies are canadian we don't

00:14:59.640 know his net worth no regime journalists have bothered to ask him he's an oligarch we just don't

00:15:05.320 know if it's a hundred million dollars or a billion dollars but the strange fact is he refuses to sell

00:15:11.240 his stocks suggesting that running canada is not his sole priority getting richer is and look at those

00:15:19.480 stocks he is personally bearish on canada his last act at brookfield was to shut down the canadian head

00:15:26.200 office and move it to new york city mark carney will make money by canada doing poorly show me an

00:15:33.240 error in my thinking this is a very difficult time right now you can blame doug ford and he deserves

00:15:39.240 some of the blame but this is all mark carney's plan stay with us for more on this

00:15:54.120 you know it's incredible how mark carney and doug ford are handling things and i'm not saying that

00:16:00.120 it's easy to handle trump and i'm not saying that trump's objections are all in good faith i think he is

00:16:05.080 perhaps overreacting although if it's true that the government of ontario is spending 75 million

00:16:11.160 dollars on this ad and i find that such a staggering sum it's almost defies belief that would affect

00:16:19.560 political campaigns in the united states i mean imagine if trump spent 25 75 million dollars in a

00:16:26.520 canadian political cycle it would be considered outrageous so maybe trump is uh i don't maybe he's

00:16:34.360 not flying off the handle maybe it is in good faith you dump 75 million bucks as i mentioned earlier

00:16:39.800 the entire nra ad spend in the last presidential election was just 10 million dollars imagine being

00:16:46.520 seven and a half times that um but what is the right approach to take i mean is it even possible to

00:16:53.960 negotiate with donald trump or you just have to sit and take terms i think it is possible to negotiate

00:17:00.200 with him other countries have managed to achieve that in fact other countries seem to have a be

00:17:04.680 favorite pets of donald trump i refer to naive bukele of el salvador and even javier mille of argentina

00:17:12.680 trump has gone beyond the call of duty to prop them up to support them to shower them with praise and

00:17:19.000 actual useful things for some reason mark carney who billed himself as the trump whisperer has failed

00:17:25.640 joining me now to talk about this and to talk about how different provinces have had different

00:17:30.760 tactics we're joined by keith wilson king's council we know him as a freedom lawyer from alberta but he's

00:17:36.360 got a lot to say about canada and alberta too keith great to see you again uh good to be on you know

00:17:42.680 danielle smith i think has taken the right approach i saw her in washington dc i was down there

00:17:48.200 for trump's inauguration and there was danielle smith working the rooms going to receptions and

00:17:53.400 she had booked a boardroom in a hotel in central dc and one after the other there were all sorts of

00:18:00.840 industry groups and politicians coming through and she was selling them on canada not berating america not

00:18:07.240 fighting trump but trying to say look here's how we work together it was quite something to see

00:18:13.400 uh i don't i don't know if any of the other provinces did the same but they certainly criticized smith

00:18:19.720 for being too friendly to trump looks like she had the right approach all along am i wrong

00:18:24.440 you're not wrong and what's so spectacular about what's happening particularly with what doug ford and

00:18:30.360 the ontario government has done to antagonize president trump um and really assault insult him

00:18:37.720 and offend him um is that you know what are we talking about here we're talking about trade right

00:18:44.440 well trade involves a seller and a buyer it involves a customer 75 of ontario's trade is with one

00:18:53.160 customer the united states of america you don't antagonize customers you don't insult customers if

00:19:02.760 you have any modicum of intelligence that's what's so stunning here is that 400 000 jobs in ontario

00:19:12.120 are dependent upon um having a good relationship with the customer called the united states of america

00:19:20.040 america and uh what sensible intelligent leaders do is they don't take out ads uh insulting the

00:19:31.720 head of the customer they rent as danielle smith did a ballroom at a hotel and they invite people

00:19:38.280 in and they have cocktails and they get to know them and they get to understand what their needs and

00:19:42.680 concerns are and how you can better meet those so you can sell more stuff to your customer

00:19:47.640 yeah hey i want to put to you two possibilities and if there's a third one you tell me

00:19:53.880 sure um look there is a permanent diplomatic corps in washington dc at our embassy and obviously in the

00:20:00.120 department of foreign affairs in ottawa a lot of them are focused on the u.s relationship so there are

00:20:05.320 lifelong diplomats who i would say most of them are non-partisan they have they have a lot of enduring

00:20:11.800 relationships with staff and and probably congressmen and senators so you have a lot of people

00:20:17.720 who could probably say well this is how we do it this is how we did it under both harper and trudeau

00:20:22.360 like i i truly believe that a lot of the diplomats are non-partisan i believe that maybe i'm a fool but

00:20:27.080 i think so but it seems to me like mark carney and doug ford are completely ignoring any advice any norms

00:20:35.720 like running a 75 million dollar ad campaign denouncing him as a tyrant doug ford threatening

00:20:41.800 to turn off electricity so here's my two theories theory number one instead of taking normal diplomatic

00:20:49.880 advice from the pros they are getting extremely bad advice from someone else who in my opinion maybe hates

00:20:59.160 trump and thinks that they can be the trump buster where no other country in the world has succeeded

00:21:05.960 in doing that so explanation number one is that this is the canadian government and the ontario

00:21:11.960 government following really dumb advice they mean well but boy are they misguided here's explanation

00:21:21.240 number two keith and you tell me if i'm what you think of this or if there's a third explanation

00:21:25.560 explanation two is so outrageous part of me doesn't even want to say it but it it fits what if doug ford

00:21:35.960 and mark carney actually want a battle with trump because domestically it keeps enough people voting

00:21:45.800 liberal or for doug ford or whatever in the coming recession ford can blame donald trump for all

00:21:53.480 the hardship as opposed to his weak leadership these past years carney can say i've always told

00:22:00.040 you we have to pivot towards china we have to decarbonize de-industrialize sorry to see the so 0.99

00:22:07.720 theory one whoa they're getting bad advice but they really want to help canada they're just doing it

00:22:12.200 wrong theory two they actually want trump to punish us to tariff us to move the auto sector down there

00:22:22.040 to devastate our economy the worst the better so they can say trump did this to us

00:22:28.360 never vote for pierre polyev he's too trump-like vote mark carney vote for doug ford the trump fighter

00:22:34.680 like theory two is that these guys are are not so stupid that they realize calling trump a tyrant

00:22:42.200 will irritate them they're not stupid they're just too clever what do you think of those two theories or do

00:22:48.040 you have a third theory well i have a blended theory i think both of those things can be true at the

00:22:53.080 same time and think about this you know look what's happened to venezuela you know second largest reserve

00:22:59.560 of oil in the world and their money became so worthless that it litters the streets um and so

00:23:07.080 chavez and then maduro they explain away the failures of socialism not as the failures of socialism but

00:23:15.320 rather the oppressive and uh trade interference and unfair trade activities by the united states with

00:23:22.200 tariffs and sanctions right so it provides cover for their policy failure in the in venezuela it

00:23:29.000 provides cover for their ideological mess and their leadership failures um so it could be the case that

00:23:36.360 carney and um um ford and eb and others see themselves as somewhat protected uh by being able to blame

00:23:46.680 trump but i also think in the first instance this was glaring incompetence and and a really good

00:23:52.200 illustration of the incompetence is the execution and what i mean by that is they made a one they took a

00:23:58.120 one minute clip from president reagan from a five minute and ten second radio address and what and

00:24:06.360 they they took them a minute in the middle and at the beginning of the address uh reagan was talking

00:24:13.560 about the need to use tariffs to achieve fair trade specifically japanese semiconductors because

00:24:22.440 they were flooding the market we wouldn't have a silicon valley today we probably wouldn't have a

00:24:27.160 google we wouldn't have a meta we you know etc had reagan not used tariffs significant tariffs to curtail

00:24:36.360 the flooding of semiconductors into the american market in 1987. he used tariffs uh president reagan did

00:24:45.400 on motorcycle parts he used it on steel he used it on grain and um and then

00:24:53.160 so they took the middle minute so the first part of is is president reagan talking about the importance

00:24:57.880 of him having the power to impose tariffs to achieve fair trade to protect american interests

00:25:05.400 and at the last minute or two is him talking again about the importance of him right president

00:25:12.200 reagan at the time not being blocked from using tariff powers look at the parallel to what's happening

00:25:18.840 right now the the the the left and the progressives the democrats are trying to convince the supreme

00:25:25.160 court of the united states to block president trump from using tariff powers so then he sees this ad

00:25:32.040 that's cherry-picked edited taken out of context and he becomes furious and rightly so regardless of your

00:25:39.880 views on the issue right uh and the merits of trump and trade and all these things you've got to

00:25:45.800 acknowledge and fairness that that was dirty pool so this is a i think this is incompetence in the extreme

00:25:53.160 and unfortunately canadians are going to suffer because of this it's just blows my mind you know

00:26:00.760 75 percent of the trade from ontario is to the united states over 400 000 jobs

00:26:07.960 and and uh premier ford and carney are just engaging in such reckless economic behavior

00:26:13.800 yeah and ford constitutionally historically by custom would not be leading the charge would

00:26:21.640 not be the lead spokesman would not be the point man for an international negotiation he's a provincial

00:26:26.440 premier he's obviously doing this with carney's approval now carney said call it off so he's calling

00:26:31.480 it off in a couple of days but it it's sort of crazy like why what next uh the mayor of toronto or

00:26:38.040 the mayor of vancouver running attack ads in the states it's just such but ezra but wait a minute

00:26:43.240 it's not that they're calling it off you know well how is it 75 million right because they bought

00:26:49.480 a whole bunch of time for the world series oh my gosh i did oh and i i couldn't so they're still

00:26:56.200 going to yeah go ahead they're still going to run it over the world series trump's going to see that

00:27:02.360 oh my god you know what i'm thinking how do you how do you 75 million i've never heard of an ad

00:27:07.560 by that large you know it's it's seven and a half times what the nra spent in the last

00:27:13.160 presidential election elon musk's enormous gift of 100 million dollars it's almost as big as that

00:27:18.680 and that helped change the election this is so i can imagine trump is saying who's attacking me

00:27:24.920 that guy who threatened to turn off electricity that guy like i can imagine why he blew a circuit

00:27:30.280 it's but but as if i just could one important detail here yeah trump knows now as of a few hours

00:27:37.640 ago with premier ford's announcement this in the afternoon of the friday that um he's going to

00:27:44.520 continue to run in the ads until monday right he knows that he's going to run them at the super bowl

00:27:49.400 right is trump going to sit there and do nothing right i guess we're going to find out wouldn't surprise

00:27:53.800 me if he says no you're not pal you're stopping those ads now wow so what are his options i don't

00:28:00.840 know i'm starting to think about that but i don't think this is over by any stretch and if if trump was

00:28:06.840 angry yesterday he's going to be even more angry i would suspect as will his supporters in the united

00:28:14.040 states as will his cabinet as well as trade negotiators if doug ford and mark carney continue

00:28:23.160 to insult and offend and antagonize by running these outrageously misleading ads misleading ads

00:28:31.480 uh knowingly misleading that was a conscious decision to edit them the way they did and run them during

00:28:37.400 the super bowl yeah wow wow wow wow well you know what doug ford has done is he's got himself on american

00:28:44.360 tv and you know so many different canadians look down to the states as the big leagues and it's true i mean

00:28:50.120 we're one-tenth the size and whether it's in sports or in music like or comedy uh or business they are

00:28:58.600 the big time right and so you have all these politicians who are the premiers of their provinces

00:29:04.680 but they know the the big game is down south and so even as doug ford realizes he's he's uh you know

00:29:14.040 messed up a little bit wob canoe the premier of manitoba made sort of a copycat video and we'll just

00:29:22.200 play it we won't play it with the sound up but i just want to show you like most canadians don't know

00:29:27.080 who wob canoe is and i actually don't think he's that terrible i mean he's a socialist but he's actually i

00:29:32.600 i think done his expectations were so low he's done better than that but this is how he's going

00:29:37.240 to be famous this is how he's going to get an invitation on cnn and david eby the premier of

00:29:43.320 british columbia here let me uh read to you eb's tweet like after this entire meltdown he says americans

00:29:52.120 need to hear how tariffs raise prices we're making ads to defend british columbia and canada's forestry

00:29:57.720 workers are wood faces higher u.s tariffs than russia absurd truth will win okay now i'm not saying

00:30:04.040 any of those facts are inaccurate and i i don't know i mean if if we pay higher tariffs in russia

00:30:10.040 that is absurd but to to double down on attack ads in the united states after trump's reaction

00:30:17.960 i think eb and wob canoe just want to be internet famous they want to be the toast of the town on cnn

00:30:24.840 they they want to maybe get invited on jimmy kimmel's show or something they are certainly not

00:30:29.720 going to help the industries they claim to be rooting for they've lost the plot they're exploiting

00:30:37.320 the trump derangement syndrome with their base they've lost the plot in that they've realized what

00:30:44.120 they're playing with what they put into peril is average canadians jobs their ability to provide for

00:30:51.080 their families that this is about trade and trade is about meeting the needs of a customer and being

00:30:58.280 responsive to the needs of a customer it's not about screaming at them it's not about threatening them

00:31:04.680 it's not about antagonizing them who could run a successful business when they become fixated on

00:31:13.240 punishing and antagonizing and fighting with their customer yeah so they've lost the plot and

00:31:20.120 unfortunately it will be canadians that suffer and this is a huge incentive for alberta separatists

00:31:28.040 yeah speaking of alberta here let me read the tweet put out today by danielle smith and i say

00:31:32.440 again i saw her and and she was not obsequious she was friendly and complimentary and she is the most

00:31:39.960 conservative of the canadian premier so that that was genuine let me read what she said she said

00:31:44.520 i remain convinced that the path to a positive resolution with our us partners lies in strong

00:31:49.000 consistent diplomacy and a commitment to working in good faith towards shared priorities such as

00:31:53.320 north american energy dominance to that end i'm pleased to see ontario's ad campaign is being

00:31:57.960 suspended as you point out not till the damage is done and i once again urge the federal government

00:32:03.320 to continue negotiating to resolve these tariff issues and restore a free and fair trade agreement

00:32:07.400 with the united states while diversifying and strengthening the canadian economy by unleashing

00:32:11.960 our world-class natural resource sector so that was a tweet and of course the answer to strengthening

00:32:19.480 canada's economy is say yes to the pipelines uh i mean you would immediately have tens of billions

00:32:25.400 of dollars of construction jobs and you would have behind that tens of billions maybe hundreds

00:32:30.120 of billions over time more oil and gas jobs but mark carney's ideology is against that

00:32:37.080 you know it's crazy that they were saying that she was the disloyal one she was the one that would wreck

00:32:41.720 everything she's the only one who has had the common sense here and i don't know it's it's sort of

00:32:47.000 crazy that these rogue premiers are what's up in donald trump's grill i bet that there are some

00:32:52.840 professional civil servants at our embassy in in washington and in you know fort pearson as they call

00:32:58.920 it pearson bunker in ottawa who are thinking what are these freelancers what are these kamikaze

00:33:06.200 pilots doing they're wrecking everything i i've got to think there's a lot of professional diplomats

00:33:12.600 who are pulling out their hair right now well and and it's pretty clear from the leadership that we're

00:33:18.200 seeing from premier smith here in alberta that she appears to be the only adult in the room at the

00:33:23.800 premier's table yeah like this when you compare the rhetoric and the screaming and the crybaby behavior

00:33:30.920 uh ford and and and and eb and wab canoe and compare it to the mature reason calm diplomatic tone

00:33:41.160 of recognizing the united states is the most important customer that canada has and will ever

00:33:47.000 have you know we're geographically advantaged we've seen over the last several months how countries around

00:33:54.120 the world have come to meet with the americans with president trump and the oval office to try and

00:34:00.200 get increased access to that market and we are better positioned than anyone else but maybe for mexico

00:34:09.000 and these guys are blowing it and it's canadians and our children that are going to suffer we're going

00:34:15.720 to see there is direct result of this is going to be inflation it's going to be increasing job losses

00:34:21.480 lower standard of living gutting out the middle class it's just spectacular that we have such 1.00

00:34:27.560 poor leadership in canada and that's why so many canadians want off or albertans rather so many

00:34:32.600 albertans want off the bus we don't need these idiots let me throw one last thing at you and i said 0.99

00:34:37.880 this in my monologue um mark carney presented himself as a man who knew how the world works that's

00:34:43.080 what he said and he always wore a suit and he looked the part and he was the former head of the bank

00:34:47.960 of england and the bank of canada and like he he had a great looking resume and he was the chairman

00:34:53.880 of brookfield asset management which is huge he has a trillion dollars under under management but

00:34:59.080 he was the chairman not the ceo so he was the guy who would preside over meetings and and be high level

00:35:07.240 um more like a mascot than a roll up the sleeves guy like he was not in fact he traveled around going to

00:35:13.160 conferences he was in the world economic forum he worked for the un like i i i'm not going to say

00:35:17.960 it was just a ceremonial job but it was a largely ceremonial job i don't think he knows how to

00:35:23.320 actually do anything he was an analyst at goldman sachs he i mean i if you could tell me what the bank

00:35:29.880 of canada bank of england does then you're you're ahead of me um like he was just uh a resume guy a cv

00:35:37.240 guy a guy who was wafted up higher and higher and he's the kind of guy who would hang out

00:35:41.720 with gilaine maxwell jeffrey epstein's uh girlfriend i mean he was in those elite circles

00:35:47.720 but does he actually know anything has he actually done anything i put it to you that an average

00:35:54.920 corner store convenience store operator knows more how to solve problems and deal with things

00:36:00.920 than mr jet set and i think he said more than 200 days as prime minister and he has no bloody clue he

00:36:08.760 has no idea what to do if you listen to him it's all word salad he does not know what to do what do

00:36:16.120 you think of that well i've been watching him carefully both prior to him becoming prime minister

00:36:23.640 and since and what's become clear is that he's a good looking empty suit and not only that so he's book

00:36:33.320 smart but he's not street smart um but but there's two aspects to this one is let's look at brookfield

00:36:40.760 brookfield and you just mentioned the guy at the corner store and that guy at the corner store might

00:36:45.960 have it might have been used to be a hair salon or a barber shop or a tax accounting office and he had

00:36:52.280 to remodel it and he had to stock it and he had to figure out how to advertise it he had to figure out

00:36:57.000 how to build a market and a customer base and balance a book and manage employees that's not what

00:37:02.280 brookfield does brookfield goes in other people do that heavy lift some guy builds an oil field

00:37:08.200 service company or an oil and gas company or some kind of manufacturing company or builds a residential

00:37:15.560 real estate company and then brookfield is essentially a hedge fund comes in and buys it up

00:37:20.760 right and then carves it up and squeezes it out and sells off pieces right so that's is it to the

00:37:26.920 extent he has experience beyond being a mystical banker right um that's it so he doesn't know how

00:37:36.440 to build a company from scratch he doesn't know how to actually build a customer base and get access to

00:37:43.080 markets and this is painfully obvious right when he says we're going to increase our steel sales to

00:37:51.560 um we're not going to sell steel to the united states anymore we're going to ship it all the

00:37:57.160 way across the world to europe well europe already has steel suppliers they're not going to say oh no

00:38:02.440 way canada you want it oh sure no problem we'll stop selling we'll shut our plants down we'll lay

00:38:07.320 all our workers off canada come on and take our market share no way not only that 75 of the steel in

00:38:13.320 europe comes from europe the 25 that doesn't comes from china russia um turkey that have far lower

00:38:21.080 environmental standards they're not worrying about decarbonizing their steel they're not paying that

00:38:26.360 they have non-union low wages and they don't have the shipping costs so this guy has demonstrated he

00:38:33.240 doesn't know what he's doing if he were serious at all if he were nothing more than a good looking

00:38:37.960 empty suit he would not be on a plane right now to asia he would be in ottawa he would be drafting bills

00:38:45.000 to repeal the emissions cap which is a production cap to incentivize investment of all kinds of things

00:38:50.360 including in our electricity grid that are soon going to be failing he would be repealing the tanker

00:38:55.480 ban he would be repealing the no more projects no more pipelines bill so that people and investors

00:39:01.800 could invest and build projects and build mines and build forestry projects pulp mills oil and gas

00:39:06.920 activities manufacturing facilities uh smelters and so on he would be repealing all of these laws that

00:39:13.720 are blocking development investment causing capital flight causing job loss and preventing growth in our

00:39:19.720 economy yeah you know you're so right about bookfield being about vulture funds in a way buying other

00:39:27.320 people's work i saw a little bit of that i don't know if you remember i went to the isle of man and then i

00:39:31.720 went to bermuda not as vacations but to try and track down these shell corporations if i had to tell

00:39:37.960 you what mark carney's specialties were i would say climate mumbo jumbo and evading taxes including

00:39:45.240 personally by the way i'm sure that's why he had an irish passport he loves the word analyze yeah to

00:39:51.720 catalyze and you know you when he starts talking about economics break it down it says nothing oh he's got

00:39:59.880 this list of buzzwords generational investment catalyze catalyze transform it you know it's like

00:40:06.440 justin trudeau but with 10 new words if you took those words out of any given speech of his there

00:40:11.240 would be nothing left correct keith wilson king's council great to catch up with you thanks for your

00:40:17.480 time today good to see ezra all right you too stay with us your letters to me next

00:40:31.640 hey welcome back your letters to me bernard jetzik says i've heard her referred to as a japanese

00:40:39.160 margaret thatcher you're talking about the new prime minister of japan yes i've heard that also and

00:40:44.840 in fact i've heard that she sort of looks up to margaret thatcher as a role model um i think

00:40:50.120 ideologically in terms of military and nationalism i think that's true japan of course being a very

00:40:55.560 different place but her immigration platform i believe is the most interesting thing about her

00:41:02.040 paul schofield says listening to mark carney's nonsense makes my ears bleed and yes ezra he is

00:41:08.280 lying i'm still trying to get a measure of the man i i think that keith wilson is exactly right mark

00:41:14.600 carney never actually ran a company brookfield is just about buying other assets that somebody

00:41:20.200 already made and it's true it's not like carney was in the office looking over balance sheets all

00:41:24.600 the time he was swanning around the world going to world economic forum meetings and un meetings

00:41:29.560 and his anti-carbon campaign mark carney is not actually a serious man he's a consultant he chairs

00:41:37.080 meetings and i don't think he has the foggiest clue of what to do if the goal is to save canada's auto

00:41:43.720 sector but if the goal is to decarbonize and de-industrialize and move canada into chinese

00:41:49.960 orbit in i think mark carney is actually the man that's our show for today until next week on behalf

00:41:57.400 of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

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Rebel News Podcast - October 24, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney's unholy alliance with Doug Ford kills U.S. trade talks

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