Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney threatened Netanyahu — now he bows to China's Xi

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Big show today. Mark Carney and his cabinet go to China and call for a new

00:00:06.220 world order. I'm not kidding. We'll play for you the videotape. Also, a discussion with our friend

00:00:10.900 Mark Morano, who's going to the World Economic Forum in Davos, too. But first, let me invite

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00:00:20.140 go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe. Eight bucks a month might not sound like a lot to you,

00:00:25.300 but it sure adds up to us. Tonight, Mark Carney threatened to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu,

00:00:46.640 but he's getting on his knees to meet China's Xi Jinping. It's January 15th, and this is the

00:00:52.260 Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:55.300 Shame on you, you sensorious bug. 0.99

00:01:08.600 Oh, hi, everybody. I am in our Toronto studio, but I'm recording this on my laptop because there's 0.86

00:01:14.740 such a huge snowstorm, and the snow is so high that a lot of our staff are unable to come in. It's not

00:01:20.400 that I have any special powers. It's just my car has a little bit more clearance, so I was able to

00:01:24.680 get over the snow. So forgive me for our sort of homemade way of recording today, but we have

00:01:29.960 my monologue, letters, and an interview with Mark Morano, who's going to be at the Davos World Economic

00:01:36.260 Forum for the first time. So we're going to show him around a little. Anyways, I want to talk a little

00:01:41.120 bit about Mark Carney's trip to communist China. He and his cabinet ministers are on yet another junk, 0.96

00:01:48.060 and I swear he never stops. It's what he likes to do best in life, private jets, five-star hotels, 0.96

00:01:53.840 hobnobbing with the global elites, lots of conferences, not really doing anything, but lots

00:01:58.640 of meetings and photo ops. Has he actually done anything? Can you name one thing concrete that

00:02:04.720 he's achieved in his nearly year as prime minister? And I can tell you one thing, he hates doing grubby

00:02:12.680 things, like having to answer questions in question period. He's got one of the lowest number of work

00:02:18.860 days of any parliament in recent memory. He just doesn't really care about parliament. That's too

00:02:23.140 democratic. He's busy going to conferences, though. On this trip alone, he's going to Communist China,

00:02:29.400 the World Economic Forum, where he used to be a board member, and Qatar, the strongest supporter of

00:02:35.180 terrorism in the world. If Iran falls, it'll really be the last refuge for all the scoundrels. 1.00

00:02:40.760 I call it an anti-American tour, wouldn't you? China, World Economic Forum, Qatar. I mean,

00:02:46.880 I think that's our new policy. We have a new foreign policy. I don't know if you know that.

00:02:52.540 It just is new and different. There was no election about this. Carney did not give in any indication

00:03:00.020 about this in the election. There was no vote in parliament, not even a debate. Here's Anita Anand,

00:03:05.560 the foreign minister, who sounds a little bit like Kamala Harris here. She sort of makes 1.00

00:03:09.640 Melanie Jolie look smart by comparison. She's just sort of announcing that we have a new

00:03:15.260 foreign policy. Did you know that? Here, take a look.

00:03:18.540 This is a new government with a new prime minister, a new foreign policy, and a new

00:03:26.380 geopolitical environment. In this moment of economic stress for our country,

00:03:34.480 it is necessary for us to diversify our trading partners and to grow non-U.S. trade

00:03:44.600 by at least 50 percent over the next 10 years. The work that we will continue to do

00:03:54.720 is to diversify supply chains while continuing to stand up for Canadian interests at every turn.

00:04:05.120 New government, new foreign policy, and we're diversifying exports and supply chains. We're

00:04:12.000 literally trying to replace our supply chain, as in the parts that we put together into manufacturing.

00:04:19.540 Or we think China would be a better supplier than the United States. Is that a good idea?

00:04:27.940 Her job is to stand up for Canadian interests, and she says she's going to do that there. But

00:04:32.260 I really don't think she's standing up for Canadian interests. I don't think that China

00:04:37.940 fits with Canada's interests, not economically, not democratically. They have massive industrial espionage

00:04:43.540 activities here. They basically destroyed Nortel, our national champion, and took all the secrets and

00:04:50.500 made Huawei. They steal things from our Ebola labs. They infiltrate our democracy. The Communist Party of

00:04:59.460 China is in no way in Canada's interests. I think Anita and Ann just is looking at the money and the

00:05:05.780 anti-American opportunities. And I'm not the only one to think this, and you don't have to be a right

00:05:11.860 winger to think this. And you take a look at a couple of journalists who were traveling with Mark

00:05:16.580 Carney and Anita and Ann, so you know they were regime journalists. Even they were saying, hey,

00:05:20.980 how come we have to have burner phones? You know what I mean by that? Not your real laptop,

00:05:25.540 not your real cell phone, just something you use for the few days you're in China, because it'll be

00:05:29.780 totally hacked by Chinese spies, because that's what they do. Here, take a look at that question. 0.98

00:05:34.420 Can I just ask a general question about investing in China? There's a ton of experts we've spoken to

00:05:40.100 in the business community in Canada who are gun-shy about investing in China. Joint ventures aren't

00:05:45.060 such. It's China win. It's not win-win. We're using burner phones for the first time when we covered

00:05:50.740 this because China spies on journalists and businessmen. China intercepts communications. Is

00:05:56.900 China really the right kind of partner for Canadian industry? Listen, we've been clear-eyed. We're eyes

00:06:03.140 wide open. We know this. But there's been investments by Canadian companies for years here.

00:06:08.820 Tomorrow, I'm meeting with Magna. Magna, one of the biggest car auto parts companies in the world.

00:06:14.820 They have 30,000 people working here. We're meeting with Manulife. We're meeting with BMO. These have

00:06:22.660 been – these companies have been in China for years. Now, obviously, we're having these conversations

00:06:27.780 with the Chinese government. If they're going to invest in our country, they need to make sure that 0.99

00:06:33.060 our companies are able to invest and have access to stability and have access to a form of

00:06:38.660 certainty. And so that's what we're working on. When we engage with China and we engage with

00:06:44.740 businesses like Tim and I have been doing, we put everything on the table to address these risks.

00:06:50.260 And that's why this visit is so important. And it's been a focus of the prime minister.

00:06:54.980 Yeah, so they went to Melanie Jolie for that tough question. And did you hear – there was a – what

00:07:00.180 she said, but? It was just sort of a classic one. Yeah, we know they're terrible. We have clear – we're

00:07:06.420 clear-eyed. Our eyes are open. But, hey, did you know that we have Canadian firms trying to get rich in

00:07:13.060 China? Okay, I know that's true. Of course, Jean-Claude Chen has been in China for more than 20 years trying

00:07:20.340 to get rich, and I'm sure he has. But isn't this junket supposed to be about getting China to invest

00:07:28.180 here in Canada, to make jobs and wealth here in Canada? How exactly does Anita Annan stand up for 1.00

00:07:34.980 Canadians? Is it like this? Take a look at this tweet she said. I don't know if you heard,

00:07:38.580 but a Canadian was murdered in Iran. A Canadian democracy activist murdered by the Iranian Ayatollahs.

00:07:45.380 And this is what our foreign minister said. I have just learned that a Canadian citizen

00:07:51.140 has died in Iran at the hands of the Iranian authorities. Has died? It's pretty passive

00:07:57.140 language. You mean was killed? Was murdered even? No. Has died. What was he – did he die of old age?

00:08:03.860 Our consular officials are in contact with the victim's family in Canada,

00:08:09.460 and my deepest condolences are with us at this time. Peaceful protest by the Iranian people asking 0.98

00:08:14.420 that their voices be heard in the face of the Iranian regime's repression and ongoing human

00:08:18.580 rights violations has led the regime to flagrantly disregard human life. The violence must end.

00:08:25.140 Canada condemns and calls for an immediate end to the Iranian regime's violence. Okay, are you going to

00:08:30.340 threaten to arrest the Ayatollahs like you said you would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu? Are you going to 0.52

00:08:36.740 declare sanctions on Iran? Or what are you going to do other than just put a little tweet?

00:08:43.060 It was so gross. You can see the capitulation in real time. But I think the classic moment today

00:08:49.140 was Mark Carney sitting in a meeting with communist officials and pledging allegiance to the New World

00:08:56.180 Order. That's literally the phrase he used. And you can see that Saskatchewan's premier,

00:09:00.820 Scott Moe, is seated right next to him. And Moe is thinking, oh my God, am I on camera as he's saying

00:09:07.540 this? Take a look. I don't know if you know this, but Canada's new foreign policy,

00:09:11.620 and it's called the New World Order. Take a look.

00:09:13.380 I think the first visit of a Canadian Prime Minister to China in nearly a decade.

00:09:25.220 The world has changed much since that last visit. And I believe the progress that we have made in

00:09:33.220 the partnership sets us up well for the New World Order. 0.50

00:09:42.660 Yeah, it wasn't always this way. I mean, there was a brief moment when Carney was running for office,

00:09:48.020 and it wasn't in the bag yet. And he said things, I'm going to call them lies, about China that I

00:09:55.940 think he thought would win Canadians over. And then he could reveal his belief in the New World Order.

00:10:00.660 Like, here he is, saying that the biggest security threat in the world to Canada

00:10:06.260 is China. He said this. Take a look.

00:10:09.220 Well, we're in a security section. I think we didn't have a chance to talk about anything

00:10:13.700 internationally. I think the biggest security threat to Canada is China. 0.96

00:10:17.380 China, you say?

00:10:18.500 Yeah. He doesn't say that anymore. Or he's willing to accept it as a price for what? There's no Chinese 1.00

00:10:27.380 investment. There's no Chinese money coming over here. China takes. It doesn't give. It's not a

00:10:33.460 generous country. It's a communist dictatorship. Here's a couple of more Mark Carney cabinet ministers

00:10:39.620 talking about selling energy and other things to China. Try to make sense of this. Take a listen.

00:10:47.700 And so that is why Tim and I, obviously, with the Prime Minister, supporting the Prime Minister,

00:10:53.780 have met many businesses today. Maybe in natural resources, energy, maybe in clean tech, maybe also

00:11:04.260 much more in manufacturing. And the goal was to see what type of investments could be made in Canada

00:11:10.180 and how also can Canadian companies export to China. Because it's important to remember ourselves,

00:11:18.500 China is the third biggest investor in Canada with $50 billion invested in 2024. But also, China

00:11:26.500 is our second biggest client in the world because it is our second biggest market where we export.

00:11:33.220 I think a lot of people in the auto sector right now, I'm thinking obviously of auto workers,

00:11:38.340 have been preoccupied when hearing what is happening south of the border and the different comments

00:11:43.940 regarding the capacity of Canada to continue to export autos, cars across North America.

00:11:52.740 And so that's why my team and I have been working on a new auto strategy. Because our goal is to make

00:11:58.900 sure that we favour auto production in Canada. We need to make sure that we continue to have a very strong

00:12:07.060 auto sector. There's 125,000 people working in the sector with direct jobs. Indirect, it becomes 400,000

00:12:16.420 people involved in the auto sector. And at the same time, we're trying to attract a lot of investments

00:12:23.140 from Korea, from Germany, and also we're looking at different partners around the world. And so these

00:12:30.340 are ongoing conversations. And that's why we'll have more to say tomorrow.

00:12:34.020 What we heard loud and clear is China is looking for reliable trading partners,

00:12:42.740 trading partners that don't use energy for coercion. China is already a major consumer of Canadian energy,

00:12:51.300 like we heard when I was in the UK, like we heard when I was in Germany,

00:12:56.740 like my colleagues have already heard in Japan and Korea. The world wants more of what Canada has.

00:13:03.940 Canada has the lowest carbon intensity LNG in the world. And we are decarbonizing our barrels and more

00:13:12.020 aggressively looking to decarbonize our barrels than any other country in the world. That's consistent

00:13:17.060 with the values of many of our trading partners, including the Chinese. They want more of what we've got.

00:13:22.340 There's actually some points in there that have meaning. Tim Hodgson, that's the natural resources

00:13:26.100 minister under Carney, says that China wants to buy some oil where there's no political coercion.

00:13:32.100 What does that mean? Well, he's talking, of course, about the United States,

00:13:35.220 because the United States has sanctions on Iranian oil and Russian oil. And Trump just announced a

00:13:43.060 couple of days ago that any country still buying energy from Iran will have a 25% tariff added to them.

00:13:49.780 So who possibly could Tim Hodgson, Carney's natural resources minister, be talking about?

00:13:55.940 Talking about America. Because Trump, now that Trump is taking control of Venezuela's oil,

00:14:01.860 between Venezuelan oil in the hands of America and Iran being tariffed, China is being surrounded.

00:14:08.100 This is Trump's way of isolating China and Russia, frankly, by stripping these oil reserves.

00:14:14.260 Tim Hodgson is going to China and say, hey, hey, hey, we will be your secret exit. We will be your

00:14:21.540 way out of this problem of political coercion through oil. Let me say that again. Mark Carney's

00:14:27.620 cabinet minister is saying to China, we, unlike the Americans, will let you buy our oil. We're not

00:14:34.180 going to put tariffs on things. You can get it from us instead of America. Boy, good luck with that. 0.76

00:14:40.100 Yeah. Then it goes on and gets a little weird where Hodgson talks about reduced carbon

00:14:46.740 being some selling point. Have you ever heard any country in the world, let alone a totalitarian

00:14:51.940 regime like China say, will only buy your oil if it has lower carbon? No one else in the world is

00:14:57.620 crazy like that. No one talks about that made up stuff. Certainly not China, which is the world's 0.99

00:15:02.340 largest emitter of carbon dioxide, if you care about that sort of thing. And most people don't.

00:15:06.900 Certainly not China. The idea that China really cares and agrees with this self-delusion is quite

00:15:12.740 something. But look, what's the reason they went to China? I think the main reason they went to China

00:15:17.940 was to tweak Donald Trump's nose. I think they went to China to give the perception that they're

00:15:25.380 going to replace America as Canada's economic engine. So I think it's about two shows. One,

00:15:31.700 to propagandize to Canadian people that they can find a substitute to America. And the other is to

00:15:38.500 target Trump and irritate him to keep the back and forth battle of words going so anti-Americanism

00:15:45.540 continues to grow so Carney can be reelected. I think that's what's going on here. But let me show you

00:15:50.660 a chart of Canadian exports by country. I got to tell you, we really don't export a lot to China.

00:15:58.420 Look at the chart here. We export $550 billion worth of stuff to the United States.

00:16:05.620 And then sort of tied for second and third place are China and the United Kingdom at $20 billion each.

00:16:12.820 So America is at $550 billion. And China and the UK are $20 billion each and Japan is $10 billion each.

00:16:21.060 You know, Anita Anand and Melanie Jolie talk about doubling exports over the next decade. Okay,

00:16:26.580 let's say you manage to double exports to China. So it's not $20 billion anymore. It's $40 billion.

00:16:32.900 Okay, congratulations. The United States is still at $550 billion. There's literally no way to make up

00:16:40.020 your losses. And what are the big things that America buys from Canada now? Automobiles,

00:16:46.180 which is why Ontario is worried, and oil. Those are the two biggest exports by far.

00:16:51.060 Well, China doesn't want our cars. Our cars are too expensive for them. They have their own auto

00:16:55.860 industry. They want access to Canada's auto market. And China gets some of our oil right now,

00:17:01.540 but it can't really get a lot more because no one can, because there's the tanker ban,

00:17:07.780 there's all these activists stopping new pipelines. So the two things that we could use some help on,

00:17:15.060 energy exports and auto exports, they're not going to go to China. One, because they don't want our 0.99

00:17:20.100 cars and the others, they can't get our oil. I looked at how much we import from China and we do about

00:17:28.980 triple buying of stuff from them than they do from us. And that's obviously true to go to any

00:17:34.980 Walmart, go to any store of any sort, go to your computers. I mean, you don't have to,

00:17:40.420 doesn't have to be, you know, low quality stuff, high tech stuff. Your Apple iPhone is made in China.

00:17:47.860 Absolutely. It is. We buy three times more stuff from China than they buy from us. China is not helping

00:17:56.180 us. This is just a pouting tour. You know, Carney's doing this a lot, and I think it's going to catch up

00:18:01.940 with them. Donald Trump's a really busy man and his attention is on many things in the world. Right

00:18:06.100 now it's on Iran. It wouldn't surprise me if this weekend he attacks Iran. He seems to do these 1.00

00:18:11.380 attacks on Fridays and Saturdays. He's focused on that. He's focused on Russia and Ukraine. He's

00:18:17.780 focused on the midterms. He's got a lot of things on his mind. I don't think he's following Mark Carney

00:18:21.860 closely. And I think that is very lucky because look at this. The other day, Mark Carney called up

00:18:27.380 Lula. That's the communist president of Brazil. And they had a conversation on the phone and Mark

00:18:34.420 Carney told Lula that what Trump did in Venezuela was illegal. Now, I guess you can have a debate over

00:18:41.060 this. The American contention is that Nicolas Maduro was an illegal usurper. He lost the election. He had

00:18:48.740 no legal right to be in the president's mansion. And more to the point, he's a narco-terrorist and an 0.99

00:18:53.780 indicted criminal who has to go on trial. That's their case. They said they weren't invading. They

00:18:58.020 just snatched the narco-terrorist. And now they're dealing with the Venezuelan regime that remains. 0.92

00:19:04.820 Mark Carney disagrees. And he told that to Lula. And Lula was so excited to hear this anti-Americanism

00:19:11.140 coming from Mark Carney that he publicized it online. Okay, well, maybe he was exaggerating,

00:19:16.820 right? Maybe he was just weaponizing what Carney said. But no, you can see underneath that,

00:19:22.340 Canada's embassies gave the thumbs up and amplified it. They're so excited that Lula sees Mark Carney is

00:19:29.620 on his side, not Trump's side. How's that helping us? Foreign affairs and diplomacy are about one thing

00:19:36.580 only, promoting Canada's national interest. Anita Nan says that, but she doesn't mean it or to understand

00:19:42.180 it. There's a hard-nosed saying in diplomacy sometimes that a country has no permanent friends,

00:19:47.940 only permanent interests. That's probably not true if you're dealing with like-minded countries

00:19:53.060 like Canada and the United States. We're really unseparable. It's like Siamese twins. There's no

00:19:59.220 difference between us in terms of we share the political, cultural, linguistic history,

00:20:05.460 and we were just so much in common that whatever differences we have are trivial. But how is

00:20:14.100 what they're doing in China and Qatar in the World Economic Forum, how is that pursuing our interests?

00:20:18.740 You'll never win over. You'll never succeed in our permanent interests of prosperity

00:20:27.780 if you keep poking at the United States and sucking up to their rival, China or the World Economic Forum

00:20:34.660 and the globalists. So you'll never replace the Canada-US relationship is what I'm saying. And you

00:20:39.780 would never want to. Every other country in the world would love to be next to the United States.

00:20:46.980 You don't have to have a defense. That's our shame. We're slackers. We're free riders, but they protect

00:20:51.700 us. You have access to the world's greatest market. Heck, you can scoot across the border and get cheap

00:20:57.940 gasoline and cheap milk. There's a million reasons why we're the luckiest country to be next to them.

00:21:03.700 Trump will be gone in three years plus one week, by the way. You don't need to hate America. You

00:21:12.020 shouldn't. You shouldn't hate Trump either. But even if you do, he's going to be gone in about a thousand

00:21:18.420 days. Mark Carney is trying to whip up anti-Americanism as a permanent feature of the Canadian psyche. That is

00:21:26.100 wrong. I think this is going to continue under Carney. Canada was anti-Israel and pro-Hamas. Canada

00:21:35.700 was praised three times by Hamas. Now Canada is murmuring pro-Maduro comments, going to China to

00:21:41.940 talk about a new world order. Canada is going in a direction that was never approved by the people,

00:21:47.380 not even a debate in the parliament. I think, though, that Carney could win another election right now

00:21:53.700 on anti-Americanism. I think the media has helped with that, with their Trump derangement.

00:21:59.300 But every year, I think Canada gets weaker because of this. And I think that's going to accelerate soon.

00:22:06.180 Stay with us for more with Mark Morano next.

00:22:08.340 Well, as you probably saw with our video announcing our editorial plans,

00:22:21.220 I'm headed back to Davos, Switzerland, along with my colleague, Avi Yamini, who's coming all the way

00:22:25.780 from Melbourne, Australia. And we're each coming with a trained videographer. Lincoln Jay is affiliated

00:22:31.620 with me and Benji Chung with Avi. And it's a fun job. It's like going fishing. You never know what

00:22:39.220 you're going to catch. We wait outside the inner sanctum of the World Economic Forum for when the VVIPs

00:22:47.300 walk out amongst the peasants. And we do our best to identify them quickly and scrum them. We've had

00:22:53.620 good luck every year we've done it. It's a very exciting kind of journalism, even if when we finally

00:22:59.140 catch us an oligarch, they don't have a lot to say. I'm excited to hear that an old friend of mine

00:23:05.300 who follows these globalist beats will actually be in Switzerland at the same time. You'll be

00:23:11.060 delighted to hear that it's Mark Morano, the boss of climatedepot.com. And he joins us now. Mark,

00:23:18.020 great to see you. Normally, we see with the global warming conferences, but this time you're coming to

00:23:24.180 the World Economic Forum. Have you ever been to the World Economic Forum before?

00:23:27.860 No, never been to Switzerland or Davos before. So I'm looking forward to it. Even though I wrote a

00:23:34.180 whole book on it, the Great Reset, Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown. But it's all part of

00:23:40.020 the same agenda. And Donald Trump is expected, scheduled to go. And he gave a great speech,

00:23:45.060 I think it was 2019, just laying waste to the World Economic Forum, particularly their climate agenda,

00:23:50.580 comparing them to fortune tellers of old, based on the old climate agenda and the climate models. So

00:23:56.820 I'm hoping Donald Trump shows up this year and just does what he did to the United Nations back in

00:24:02.580 September of 2025 and just ripped them. I mean, he had an incredible section just on the climate

00:24:08.180 agenda. It was phenomenal. And I expect something similar next week in Davos.

00:24:12.580 Yeah, I'm excited about it, too. I mean, Trump really is going right into the heart of darkness.

00:24:18.340 Klaus Schwab is sort of the anti-Trump. Larry Fink, the head of Blackwater, sort of taking over now

00:24:24.420 from Klaus Schwab as he's, uh, Schwab has been engulfed by scandals and he's probably time hit for

00:24:30.580 him to retire anyways. Um, but there's still a lot of things going on. A lot of masters of the universe are

00:24:36.660 there. From Canada's point of view, our prime minister, Mark Carney, was on the board of the

00:24:43.300 World Economic Forum for years. Chrystia Freeland, our finance minister, was on the board for years.

00:24:49.860 Justin Trudeau was a World Economic Forum young leader. So when people say, oh, you're exaggerating

00:24:56.100 the power of these globalist institutions, I say, no, they may not have formal power. Like,

00:25:02.100 they don't pass actual laws. They don't have police or armies, but they're a think tank that gets

00:25:08.740 injected right into the veins of politicians and business people and cultural elites around the

00:25:16.020 world. Like all of a sudden you start hearing everyone say the phrase, build back better at the

00:25:20.720 same time. That's cooked up in Davos, Mark. I'm really glad you're coming because I think you're

00:25:26.560 sort of a kryptonite to these people. At least I hope you will be. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

00:25:31.680 You know, I think most people, pre-COVID, and I credit COVID lockdowns and the mandates and the

00:25:41.000 vaccine mandates and the stay-at-home orders, all that, with this rise of climate skepticism,

00:25:45.820 which is the reason, you know, in the United States, CNN's reporting where lower climate

00:25:50.220 skepticism, more climate skepticism, same levels we had in the 1980s. That's how people just don't

00:25:56.520 care anymore. They lost, by COVID lockdowns, the appeal to authority. And I think the World Economic

00:26:02.480 Forum was front and center, along with the World Health Organization, the idea that you can't

00:26:06.600 question this. You're an anti-science denier. You know, don't question the science. I believe in

00:26:12.280 science. Because of that, you had people like RFK Jr. basically say, I'm no longer going to talk

00:26:17.260 about climate change. It's been hijacked by the World Economic Forum for totalitarian control of

00:26:21.920 society. I think that in some ways we owe a debt of gratitude to Klaus Schwab and the world because

00:26:27.980 no one had heard, I mean, the phrase, I think, Great Reset began in 2014. It wasn't until June of

00:26:34.000 2020 when Klaus Schwab penned that article where he called, now is the time for a Great Reset.

00:26:40.060 And then they all, of course, Justin Trudeau and every world leader parroted that phrase ad nauseum.

00:26:45.160 But what they didn't realize is that corporate sort of melding of government and politics and

00:26:51.840 governments and the melding of corporations and governments turned off the public globally so

00:26:58.060 much. It just led to, of course, the truckers' rebellion. It led to, I think, Donald Trump's

00:27:02.240 re-election in 2024 by such an overwhelming margin. It's the reason people don't trust institutions

00:27:08.740 anymore. We don't trust public health. We don't trust government science. We don't trust

00:27:14.800 the world health. We don't trust world economic forum. And the fact that Larry Fink is now the

00:27:20.460 co-chair and head of it is kind of a dark episode because this is a guy ahead of BlackRock. This is

00:27:26.820 a guy heavily invested now in AI. I don't actually know your personal views or your views on AI, but

00:27:32.540 I, you know, I still can't get the words of Yuval Harari out of my head, the World Economic

00:27:38.080 Advisor, World Economic Forum Advisor, about useless eaters and how we're going to need

00:27:42.780 psychotropic drugs and video games to keep us all occupied once AI takes over all the jobs.

00:27:49.900 I look at AI as fraught with danger. And I think Donald Trump, just in the last couple of weeks,

00:27:55.820 in a lot of pushing, I was on Fox News over the weekend. The Fox News hosts are now saying that

00:28:00.940 AI data centers are equivalent to solar and wind farms out there. They're almost like a virtue

00:28:07.580 signal to this future that we don't really want. And they're sucking down all the power. So this is

00:28:13.780 what I think is really going on behind the scenes here is the sort of billionaire oligarch

00:28:19.740 corporation. They're going to be pushing this sort of AI, the idea as to displace the masses,

00:28:27.200 which is you and I, that's part of it. They're looking for a post-climate agenda. And they're

00:28:32.520 going to be continuation, I think, at this summit of that merging of climate into public health.

00:28:38.600 This is why, again, just to repeat, you go back, the doctors in 2020, Australian University wanted to

00:28:45.420 have climate listed as a cause of death on death certificates. You had the Canadian doctors for the

00:28:50.480 first time ever, about three or four years ago, list climate change as a, you know, as a condition

00:28:54.960 on your diagnosis, your first medically diagnosed case of climate change. And then, of course,

00:29:01.180 you have this whole net zero hospital push. You have the American Cancer Society fretting over the

00:29:05.840 carbon footprint of cancer care. You have doctors with carbon footprint climate kits that they're

00:29:14.020 going to be talking to people. So that is what I think they're trying to do with climate. They now

00:29:18.520 know, my headline at Climate Depot is Axios, mainstream media, calling about the total collapse of the

00:29:23.560 climate agenda. In the U.S., there's no pushback, even from the usual suspects. Bernie Sanders is

00:29:28.860 silent. AOC is. And they can still fight back. They're fighting Trump on immigration, but they're

00:29:33.520 not fighting them on climate. It's just been utter silence as that whole agenda collapses. So I think

00:29:39.700 this is a really pivotal World Economic Forum meeting next week because they've got to figure their

00:29:45.180 new strategy. They have to regroup. They've been beaten, battered, and scarred, and they need to come

00:29:50.540 up with new ways to deceive the public. And I think one of it is to go stealth on climate. And I think

00:29:56.500 there's going to be touting this AI, which is a serious double-edged sword for humanity.

00:30:02.000 I think I share your view on AI. I did a big show on it the other day where I outlined some of my

00:30:07.560 worries. You know that climate is over when Bill Gates, one of the worst climate fear mongers,

00:30:13.500 as well. It's not that important anymore because he wants his data centers, which have a lot of

00:30:19.500 missions. So that's over. But you know, I'm very excited that you're coming to Davos and stuff.

00:30:25.460 That's the town in the Alps. It's a few hours train ride or car drive up from Zurich. And what you'll

00:30:31.000 find interesting, and our viewers know this, is that this is a lovely ski town, 51 weeks of the year.

00:30:38.040 But for the other week of the year, the World Economic Forum takes over everything. By the way,

00:30:44.020 the rents and hotel rooms go up in price at least 10 times, sometimes 20-fold. And the main street of

00:30:52.500 Davos, this is so interesting, it's turned into like a movie set. Like all the shops and cafes for that

00:31:00.020 one week shut down, and they're remade into like a pavilion for BlackRock, a pavilion for Meta,

00:31:06.280 for OpenAI. So you walk down what was once beautiful downtown Davos, there's still a few

00:31:12.920 restaurants and shops open, but maybe only 10%. The other 90% have been transformed into these little

00:31:19.240 propaganda kiosks for the different companies. And it's in, you can sort of get a read for the pulse

00:31:26.240 of it by what they're talking about. And AI for sure is the number one thing. And just walking by and

00:31:33.720 hearing snippets of people talking as they walk by you, it was so clear to me, Mark, that stopping

00:31:40.020 Trump was their most important goal a couple years ago. And so their secondary goal was stopping Elon

00:31:46.820 Musk. And that really hasn't changed. They don't, they're going to try and do it through AI. If they

00:31:53.320 can remove any human accountability or responsibility and teach the machines to silence us and censor us

00:32:01.300 and monitor us, that's what I'm afraid of. I mean, I look forward to your direct observations when

00:32:07.720 we get there, because you'll have a unique take. By the way, on the main street, last year, I encountered

00:32:14.040 a guy giving away chocolate bars made with bugs. He was that, you know, you will eat the bugs. It was for

00:32:22.400 real. He was giving them away. And he wasn't being very conspicuous about what was in it. Some people

00:32:28.740 just didn't really hear what was in it. And they took one to eat for free. Other people,

00:32:33.380 when they heard what it was, they said no things. Others said, sure. So there's little quirky things

00:32:37.580 that I'd love to get your feedback on. Hopefully we can connect in Davos, because I would just love

00:32:42.560 to see your reaction being in that weird Disneyland for globalists. It's like a movie set, that weird

00:32:49.100 globalist Disneyland. I want to see your first reaction. I can hardly wait to see your face.

00:32:53.600 Yeah. I mean, I'm a veteran, of course, of these UN climate summits, 22 out of the last 24 summits

00:33:01.680 going back to 2002. But they don't have the sort of power and wealth that you're describing that

00:33:08.160 comes from the World Economic Forum. And what's interesting is the current co-chair head,

00:33:12.860 Larry Fink, has basically already thrown the entire climate agenda under the bus. It was April 2024 when he

00:33:19.520 said, solar and wind can't power AI. We basically need nuclear and fossil fuels. And lo and behold,

00:33:26.180 that's part of the reason that Bill Gates flipped himself. That's why Mark Zuckerberg is now trying

00:33:32.340 to get nuclear power plants that's solely devoted to powering his AI. Bill Gates is trying to get

00:33:40.520 Three Mile Island nuclear power plant to power his AI. Suddenly you have all of these climate activists

00:33:46.860 now embracing fossil fuels and nuclear, something that never would have happened. And I think this

00:33:52.240 is why the corporate media globally is shifting. You can now read the BBC and Bloomberg. I have

00:33:58.580 articles up from Bloomberg News talking about today, Ezra, Sweden is now abandoning climate goals.

00:34:05.580 And not only that, but they went so far in this article from Bloomberg News, mainstream corporate news,

00:34:10.360 from a child of Michael Bloomberg, one of the biggest climate activist funders in the world,

00:34:15.880 saying that the Fridays for Future that Greta Thunberg had started way back in 2000,

00:34:21.260 I think it's 18, I have to look it up, 2018 and 19, is now down to one or two kids. They called it,

00:34:27.240 quote, deflated. There's no passion left for climate, even in Greta's home country. Of course,

00:34:33.200 Greta abandoned it. I like to joke that the one great contribution of Greta going to Israel was that

00:34:41.580 she became a hypocrite because she violated her no-fly pledge after the Israeli government sent 0.97

00:34:46.680 her back home on an airplane. And I don't know if you saw that picture of her sitting on the plane 0.99

00:34:50.700 involuntarily. I did. I did see that one. You know, that's funny. Hey, let me ask you this. You

00:34:55.980 mentioned that the reason you're over there is that there is a counter conference, like an antidote

00:35:01.960 conference in Zurich, which is a few hours away. As I mentioned to you just before we turn on the

00:35:06.380 cameras, we're going to be pretty busy hunting for oligarchs on the streets of Davos. But tell me a

00:35:14.000 little bit and tell our viewers about what's cooking in Zurich. You guys are putting together

00:35:18.700 an alternative conference. Maybe we could, I don't know if we're able to send someone down there

00:35:23.620 because we got to do what we do in Davos. But give us a minute on what you're actually up to

00:35:28.460 in Zurich. Yeah, I'm one of the speakers at it. They say they're trying to get Nigel Farage or

00:35:32.980 get many EU parliament members. And they're going to have a counter summit every day, Monday through

00:35:38.480 Friday of next week, during the same time that Davos is going on. And I'm giving my speech is going to

00:35:44.200 be on update to the Great Reset. My speech is titled The Great Reject. And I'm going to talk about

00:35:50.240 everything that's happened post-COVID and how all of the things the World Economic Forum pushed has

00:35:55.460 turned against them and the public's turned against them. Not to say that the World Economic

00:35:59.060 Forum is losing or going to lose, because this is the most powerful people on earth,

00:36:03.020 presidents, prime ministers, corporate leaders, billionaires, but how they, all these missteps

00:36:08.360 and how we can fight back and how they're, of course, what's happened to the climate agenda.

00:36:13.260 But this is going to be the cream of the crop of European government leaders and European

00:36:18.700 think tank leaders all coming together and a lot of them from America as well, to basically how we fight

00:36:24.280 the Great Reset 2.0, which will be happening in Davos. And a lot of it is going to be under the

00:36:29.820 stewardship of Donald Trump. We're expecting him to go and just literally eviscerate the World

00:36:35.460 Economic Forum as he did the UN. I can't guarantee that's going to happen, but I have a good sense

00:36:39.580 that that's going to happen. Yeah. I mean, by the way, Europe is totally obsessed now with America

00:36:46.480 and sovereignty of other countries. A lot of them were apoplectic when Trump took out

00:36:52.200 Nicolas Maduro, the dictator of Venezuela. They're upset with his ambitions in Greenland.

00:36:59.300 And of course, I don't know if you know this, but every year at Davos, the Ukrainian government

00:37:04.180 has a pavilion where they make the case for standing with Ukraine. So there's all sorts of

00:37:09.700 global geo-military politics. It's not just the climate stuff. It's not just the AI.

00:37:16.860 They, there are, I mean, Ukraine has been a big issue over there. So he may, it wouldn't surprise 1.00

00:37:21.840 me if Trump talks a lot about his vision for NATO and for the world and America's new Monroe

00:37:30.120 doctrine. So it's not, it will hopefully be a counterpoint to some of the ideologies of globalism

00:37:36.500 and climate alarmism. Um, but you never know what he's going to talk about, but it could be about

00:37:42.080 censorship because the Americans are really on a tear in Europe, smashing them for their intended 1.00

00:37:47.960 use of AI, which is of course censorship. Have you been following that at all? Cause I mentioned AI

00:37:52.920 is a big deal there, but censorship and AI go hand in glove and the world economic form. Give me one

00:37:58.200 minute on your thoughts of censorship and what the Trump administration has been doing in saying,

00:38:04.340 especially in Europe to push back against censorship of American social media companies.

00:38:10.800 Well, yeah, what happened first with J.D. Vance, when he was first sworn in, he went to Europe and

00:38:15.720 condemned their censorship. And actually surprisingly our 60 minutes CBS, uh, here in the United States

00:38:21.440 had a great interview. I'm sure you saw it with the three European, I want to say bureaucrats, but

00:38:25.800 you know, talking about how the censorship and what's legal and what's not and how liking posts,

00:38:30.440 uh, that's been a huge battle. Uh, they're trying to essentially come out after censorship

00:38:36.840 via through the EU to Americans. And I think that will be a big part of what Donald Trump talks about

00:38:42.840 and AI again, it's just a scary technology that is so easy to be misused because when you have

00:38:51.900 the world's billionaires, all backing this up, like we, I'm in Virginia, which is the number one state

00:38:56.340 for AI data centers in the country. That's where I live. State of Virginia, outside of Washington,

00:39:00.840 D.C. We have politicians, they get elected. We're going to stop the data says we're going to,

00:39:05.120 and they don't get stopped. And when you think about, you know, these are look like Soviet air

00:39:09.680 architecture. They're big, endless, eight football fields, long, all concrete windowless buildings.

00:39:16.180 First of all, get the sense that within five to 10 years, they're going to end up not needing

00:39:19.640 these data centers because there'll be a technological advance. You're going to end up

00:39:22.320 a blight on the landscape already, but they're going to have these abandoned data centers. But

00:39:26.460 anyway, all this is going on. And I think one of the driving forces is for global censorship and

00:39:32.220 particularly to use the EU bureaucrats to help impose that. Well, we'll keep our eyes filled. I

00:39:39.440 hope we have a chance to bump into each other. For sure, we will in Davos. If we can get down to

00:39:43.660 Zurich to see you in action, we will too. Mark, great to catch up with you. Thanks for taking the time.

00:39:48.320 Thank you, Ezra. Appreciate it.

00:39:49.520 There he is, Mark Morano, the boss of ClimateDepot.com. We always see him at the global warming

00:39:54.640 UN conferences. It'll be fun to have him at the World Economic Federation. Stay with us. Your

00:39:59.980 Letters to Me next.

00:40:09.880 Hey, welcome back. Your Letters to Me. FedUp says about the Sam Cooper interview about China and

00:40:15.700 Carney. It is interesting to see that Canadians are concerned, mainstream media driven, about a Trump

00:40:21.220 takeover, but show no concern about communist China infiltrating Canada. You're so right. And real 0.94

00:40:27.400 infiltration, like packing school buses to send voters to nominations, crazy stuff, threatening Joe

00:40:34.040 Tay with a political bounty. Just madness. Marie Perrin says, tell China no billion dollar ferry deal

00:40:42.000 unless tariffs are removed from canola. Hey, that's a good point. But normally in negotiations,

00:40:46.900 you don't agree to pay a country a billion dollars for their ferry and then ask for something in return.

00:40:54.100 That's Canada just showing we have no art of the deal. We have no clue how to negotiate

00:40:58.080 with friends or enemies. And that's why Donald Trump so infuriates us. We just don't know how

00:41:02.980 to deal with them. And Mark Carney was supposed to be the guy who did. He doesn't.

00:41:08.440 Grizzlehead says, PetroChina is trying to gain full control of the Grand Rapids pipeline.

00:41:12.920 Canada and Alberta cannot let this happen. This is why we don't want Chinese investment.

00:41:17.580 Well, Stephen Harper put a stop to Chinese investment in the oil sands. But then Justin Trudeau and

00:41:23.700 Alberta's premier, Rachel Notley, put an end to all investment in the oil sands. So they're on

00:41:28.520 their back right now. It would be really weird if Mark Carney supported the new growth of the oil

00:41:36.920 sands as a favor to China, as opposed to his hatred for Alberta. Like Carney and Trudeau hate Alberta,

00:41:42.660 so they stopped the oil sands. Wouldn't it be crazy if Carney loved China more than he hated Alberta

00:41:49.800 and allowed the pipeline to go? Trouble is, that takes years to do. And China needs the oil now.

00:41:57.120 Jojo Pag says, I could see Trump going with a team to the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos. It

00:42:02.280 will be interesting to see this. Trump has gone before, and he's given a speech before. He's gone

00:42:06.960 right in the lion's den and sort of told them what's what. And I think Davos, they sort of love

00:42:12.520 having him, even though he really criticizes them. Think about what it means to have Donald Trump come

00:42:17.400 and speak at your conference. It means your conference is the most important place in the

00:42:21.480 world. So it's very interesting. He will be there speaking, and I look forward to hearing what he has

00:42:27.280 to say. Well, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, and hopefully our team will be back despite

00:42:33.040 the snowstorm. On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,

00:42:37.480 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - January 16, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Carney threatened Netanyahu — now he bows to China's Xi

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