Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ CBC's $1.5 billion lie machine： Fake graves and smear campaigns

00:00:00.000 How CBC's lies about Black Olives led to a lawsuit against the victims of CBC's misinformation.

00:00:05.980 And it appears the era of political debanking is not yet over.

00:00:11.000 It's July 24th, 2025. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:17.100 You fight for freedom! 0.95

00:00:19.940 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:00:30.000 The federal election has kicked off, and many of you have asked how CBC News will be fact-checking claims made on the trail.

00:00:38.120 From missing context to full-blown conspiracies, we have a game plan.

00:00:42.260 The fact-check team is responsible for researching, writing, and reporting on claims made by political parties and their leaders on election issues.

00:00:50.220 This could include policy statements, campaign matters, or issues about the leaders themselves.

00:00:55.040 Generally, this is what our day looks like.

00:00:56.980 Every morning, the senior producer, me, decides on the fact-check priorities, in collaboration with the election assignment desk.

00:01:03.780 Then I assign the fact-check team with what stories they're going to work on, as well as what treatments they might do, and which platforms they'll go on.

00:01:10.440 The team will build a database of facts that reporters and producers can then refer to.

00:01:14.700 It's meant to be comprehensive and easily searchable for journalists who are working on stories.

00:01:19.560 Let's talk about the truth, or at least the version of it pumped out daily by Canada's state broadcaster, the CBC.

00:01:26.200 CBC likes to pretend it's a firewall against fake news, a champion of the facts, the moral compass in an age of misinformation.

00:01:35.940 But if you've paid any attention over the last few years, you'll know they're not the hoes putting out the fire. 1.00

00:01:42.100 They're the ones lighting the match and then also bringing a jerry can of gas to make it worse.

00:01:48.640 Let's talk about something seemingly innocent, black olives.

00:01:54.180 I saw this story this morning and I knew I just had to talk about it.

00:01:57.820 In 2019, CBC's French-language show La Pisserie aired a sensational segment suggesting black olives weren't naturally ripened but chemically dyed.

00:02:12.320 It spooked a viewer in Quebec so badly, she launched a class-action lawsuit.

00:02:19.700 Not against CBC, mind you, but against grocery giants like Walmart, Loblaw, Sobeys.

00:02:25.720 She accused them of selling fake food to millions of unsuspecting Canadians.

00:02:31.600 Why?

00:02:32.820 Because she believed the CBC.

00:02:34.400 She took them at their word.

00:02:35.620 But the claim was bogus.

00:02:38.540 As first reported by Blacklock's reporter, the process in question is called oxidation.

00:02:43.900 And ferrous gluconate, a federally approved compound, is used to stabilize the black color.

00:02:49.720 Not dye it.

00:02:50.940 It's safe.

00:02:51.820 It's regulated and listed on the label.

00:02:54.500 The judge threw the case out, calling the CBC-fueled panic vague and imprecise.

00:03:02.100 That's a nice way of saying it was misinformation.

00:03:07.020 So the CBC makes a bogus claim.

00:03:09.880 Viewers, believing them, panic.

00:03:13.200 And innocent businesses get hauled to court to defend themselves.

00:03:16.780 And CBC, they walk away like nothing happened.

00:03:20.880 It's a pattern.

00:03:22.420 Especially when it comes to food, actually.

00:03:25.060 Let's talk about chicken.

00:03:26.140 In 2017, CBC's Marketplace claimed Subway's chicken sandwiches were only about 50% chicken.

00:03:35.120 The rest, you name it.

00:03:37.240 Soy filler.

00:03:38.520 Subway adds that the other samples don't.

00:03:41.760 Soy protein.

00:03:43.120 Why would you need to put more protein in a chicken product?

00:03:47.420 A lot of great binding capabilities.

00:03:51.720 Potentially improved texture.

00:03:54.140 Those type of things.

00:03:55.040 And in some sense, it also makes the product slightly more cost effective.

00:04:00.500 Okay, so cheaper.

00:04:02.660 Yes, exactly.

00:04:03.820 Okay.

00:04:04.560 Remember, our DNA test shows Subway strips and oven-roasted chicken could be only about 50% chicken.

00:04:12.400 And guess what?

00:04:13.520 The rest?

00:04:14.560 Mostly soy.

00:04:17.100 So it's very likely that they're probably making more of a product that contains this ground chicken

00:04:22.680 and forming it into a patty. 0.64

00:04:24.360 It made national headlines.

00:04:26.320 Viewers were disgusted.

00:04:28.120 If you care about not eating soy, and I do, you were not going back to Subway.

00:04:33.940 Subway's brand was dragged through the dirt.

00:04:38.100 Subway fought back.

00:04:39.800 They had independent labs test their product.

00:04:41.820 The results showed far more chicken than CBC claimed.

00:04:46.160 So Subway sued CBC for $210 million in damages, alleging defamation and reputational harm.

00:04:55.200 At first, CBC dodged accountability.

00:04:58.420 A judge tossed the case under Ontario's anti-SLAPP laws.

00:05:04.460 Not because CBC's reporting was accurate.

00:05:07.540 They never actually said that.

00:05:09.380 But because it was deemed in the public interest, even if it was wrong.

00:05:14.780 But in 2021, the Ontario Court of Appeal overturned that decision, saying Subway's case had merit,

00:05:22.620 and I think it does, and deserved a full trial.

00:05:25.860 That case is still active four years later.

00:05:29.320 And yes, you the taxpayer, you are footing the bill for CBC's legal defense.

00:05:36.860 So we've got bogus olive stories triggering lawsuits,

00:05:41.200 and chicken scandals leading to multi-million dollar court battles.

00:05:46.560 But the CBC doesn't just hurt companies with their lies.

00:05:50.260 They go after people too.

00:05:52.880 Take Rebel News reporter, Draya Humphrey.

00:05:55.440 During the 2025 federal election, Draya asked a question at the leaders' debate.

00:06:02.160 Remember this?

00:06:03.760 Hello, Mr. Singh.

00:06:04.960 Draya Humphrey with Rebel News.

00:06:07.020 Your party takes great pride in standing against hate,

00:06:09.840 such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online.

00:06:12.200 Sorry, I didn't get your outlet.

00:06:14.400 Draya Humphrey with Rebel News.

00:06:15.860 Okay.

00:06:16.920 You know where I'm going to go with this, though, right?

00:06:19.720 Can I speak?

00:06:20.680 Yeah, you can.

00:06:21.200 I'm just going to say you know where I'm going to go with it, though.

00:06:22.640 Wow.

00:06:23.120 Your party takes pride in standing against hate,

00:06:25.900 such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online hate speech.

00:06:30.080 Yet you stay silent about ongoing attacks against Christians,

00:06:34.120 even after Conservative MP Jamil Javani's order paper question

00:06:38.060 revealed that over 200 churches have been targeted by arson and vandalism

00:06:42.840 since claims of remains being discovered at former residential schools swept the nation in 2021.

00:06:49.800 These claims have been disproven by bans that excavated and remain unproven by those that have not.

00:06:57.260 Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today

00:07:01.180 and explain what your party will do moving forward to keep Christians safe from hate in Canada?

00:07:08.920 Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization that promotes misinformation and disinformation like Rebel News,

00:07:15.280 so no, I'm not going to respond to your question.

00:07:16.880 Wow.

00:07:17.160 What she said had no misinformation in it.

00:07:20.080 Perhaps you didn't hear me.

00:07:23.420 Over 200 Christian places of worship have been attacked in Canada since 2021.

00:07:28.540 Many served First Nations communities, many were historic,

00:07:32.860 and they diverted police and resources and put others at risk.

00:07:38.580 What do you say to Canadians who see your refusal to answer,

00:07:42.060 especially from one of the few media outlets here that are not funded by the state,

00:07:46.380 as proof that a vote for you is a vote for a dangerous radical party

00:07:51.480 that gaslights the public into thinking it stands against hate

00:07:54.500 when its silence is instead emboldening Christophobia?

00:07:59.020 Your question is another example of why I don't respond to agencies like Rebel News

00:08:03.680 that promote misinformation and disinformation.

00:08:05.820 Now, that same night, CBC's Rosemary Barton accused Drea on national television

00:08:12.600 of spreading misinformation about Kamloops' residential school graves and church burnings.

00:08:19.320 Look at this.

00:08:20.800 There's three right-wing, very right-wing media, we can call them media,

00:08:27.260 websites that are present in there.

00:08:29.740 They get in line to ask a question like anybody else.

00:08:31.900 Their accreditation has been approved by the Commission of Debates.

00:08:35.960 And so they get the right to stand in line and ask a question that they choose to ask.

00:08:40.920 In this case, you saw Mr. Singh, and this has been his position for some time,

00:08:44.780 to refuse to answer questions.

00:08:46.740 Rebel News in particular, traffics in misinformation, facts, lack of facts.

00:08:52.060 And as you heard in that question, which was woven with some truth

00:08:56.340 and some things that weren't true.

00:08:57.900 Yes, there have been burnings of Christian Catholic churches.

00:09:02.180 Yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places around the country,

00:09:07.780 which she misrepresented.

00:09:09.420 We'll see if Mr. Poiliev gets any questions from right-wing organizations.

00:09:12.600 I was suspect.

00:09:12.980 What Barton said was the misinformation.

00:09:15.540 What Barton said was the complete fabrication.

00:09:18.580 And by the way, Drea was on site at CBC Radio Canada.

00:09:24.260 Same place that Barton was.

00:09:25.440 Did Barton ever invite Drea on to give her the right of reply to get her side of the story?

00:09:33.520 Definitely not.

00:09:34.620 Although that is responsible journalism.

00:09:36.940 CBC and responsible journalism, they don't know each other.

00:09:42.420 Now, Barton's smear was so egregious that CBC had to issue a correction on its website.

00:09:48.840 But did Rosemary Barton ever apologize? 0.99

00:09:52.040 Did she correct the record on air the way CBC's own retraction policy demands?

00:09:58.900 Nope, not even once.

00:10:00.900 There was no retraction during the nightly news.

00:10:04.240 No apology to Drea, just a silent back-page correction online.

00:10:10.180 Buried like an afterthought.

00:10:11.720 No accountability, no consequences.

00:10:14.060 And speaking of Kamloops, let's not forget how CBC breathlessly reported that 215 children

00:10:19.420 had been buried in a mass grave.

00:10:22.000 That was the claim.

00:10:22.820 It ran for weeks, months.

00:10:25.020 In fact, the CBC still calls residential school discoveries mass graves.

00:10:30.920 I found this this morning.

00:10:32.600 And to this date, it should be noted that at least at Kamloops, no bodies have been exhumed.

00:10:38.520 No forensic evidence has confirmed the existence of a mass grave or any grave at all.

00:10:43.760 The CBC, however, didn't question any of those facts.

00:10:48.200 They didn't verify.

00:10:49.500 They just ran with it.

00:10:51.060 And what was the result?

00:10:52.220 National mourning.

00:10:53.680 Church burnings.

00:10:55.500 Statue topplings.

00:10:56.840 Division.

00:10:57.500 A full-blown moral panic.

00:10:59.140 Built on radar anomalies and zero exhumations.

00:11:02.920 And when the truth began to trickle out, again, CBC, quiet.

00:11:06.800 No correction, no retraction, no reflection.

00:11:09.340 Just let's just all move along.

00:11:11.640 Nothing to see here.

00:11:13.220 So let's add it all up.

00:11:14.820 CBC scares viewers with a false story about olives.

00:11:18.720 And innocent grocers get sued.

00:11:20.880 I mean, it's laughable, but innocent grocers got sued because of the lies.

00:11:25.800 CBC botches chicken DNA claims.

00:11:28.920 Subway gets smeared, then sues.

00:11:30.980 The case is still alive.

00:11:33.240 We're paying for it.

00:11:34.980 CBC defames journalists.

00:11:37.140 No apology.

00:11:38.420 CBC fuels mass hysteria over a mass grave that has yet to be proven.

00:11:43.220 And no one at the network gets held to account.

00:11:45.640 And you, as I said, pay for it all.

00:11:47.720 CBC receives $1.5 billion a year in taxpayer money.

00:11:51.460 That's your money funding this misinformation train wreck.

00:11:54.960 They don't just fail to report the truth.

00:11:56.940 They bulldoze it, spin it, bury it, and then demand praise for the wreckage.

00:12:01.360 They're not Canada's answer to disinformation.

00:12:04.740 They're the problem.

00:12:05.640 That phone call is coming from inside the house, CBC.

00:12:08.680 They hurt businesses.

00:12:09.760 They destroy reputations.

00:12:11.220 They fan hysteria.

00:12:12.640 And when they get caught, they issue a one-line correction on a webpage nobody sees,

00:12:17.320 while the reputational damage they caused lives on.

00:12:20.740 CBC says it exists to protect the public.

00:12:23.300 But ask yourself, who's protecting the public from them?

00:12:27.020 Joining us after the break, convoy lawyer Eva Chipiak, who is just debanked by RBC.

00:12:34.600 Stay with us.

00:12:43.800 You know, I thought with a new prime minister in Canada and a new president in the United States

00:12:49.460 that the era of political debanking might, might be over.

00:12:53.740 But I think I was a little too optimistic.

00:12:57.640 That's not my way to be optimistic like that.

00:13:00.320 But we just saw in the United States, Michael Knowles, podcaster Michael Knowles with the Daily Wire,

00:13:05.640 fighting with Stripe over a political debanking.

00:13:10.300 And yesterday, I saw online good friend of Rebel News and good friend of Freedom in general,

00:13:19.180 lawyer Eva Chipiak, saying that her bank, RBC, was ceasing their business relationship.

00:13:29.540 And so I thought I had to have Eva on.

00:13:32.120 She, for those of you who don't know her, and I don't know how you couldn't,

00:13:35.300 she's the convoy lawyer who examined Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for his role

00:13:41.860 in violating the rights of thousands of peaceful, freedom-minded Canadians for standing up

00:13:49.040 to mandates and other forms of government overreach.

00:13:53.020 Last question, Mr. Prime Minister.

00:13:55.420 When did you and your government start to become so afraid of your own citizens?

00:14:01.680 That's a very unfair...

00:14:02.800 I am not, and we are not.

00:14:04.760 Eva, thanks for coming on the show.

00:14:07.220 So, you posted the letter that you received from RBC, Royal Bank of Canada, yesterday.

00:14:14.260 What's happening to you?

00:14:16.440 Well, to be perfectly honest, I'm still in a bit of shock.

00:14:20.180 Yeah.

00:14:20.960 I opened the letter not expecting that, and so I was taken aback, didn't honestly know what to do,

00:14:28.000 and then decided to post it, and clearly it's gone.

00:14:31.920 It's taken on a life of its own.

00:14:33.560 What I just want to highlight right from the start is just how many people said they had

00:14:41.060 similar experiences, which really causes me pause and concern, because here I get this letter,

00:14:48.040 and of course, we know about some of them during the convoy, and they suggested it was connected

00:14:53.960 to that, and now it's just so many more people are sharing their story that they've had similar

00:14:59.620 circumstances with the big banks in Canada.

00:15:04.100 Yeah, and just going back to the convoy, how quickly the big banks buckled under pressure

00:15:13.580 from the federal government.

00:15:14.820 I mean, it hardly even seemed like pressure.

00:15:17.280 The federal government decided that they were going to treat freedom-minded Canadians

00:15:23.440 as though they were terrorist financiers and freeze their bank accounts, leaving them all

00:15:30.640 but indigent with no clue about how long those seizures would last, and yet we have a federal

00:15:38.040 government right now that doesn't seem to be using their powers under Fintrack to figure

00:15:42.580 out who's funding these pro-Hamas protests every single week.

00:15:46.820 Like, it's hard to argue that this targeting isn't political when you see it like that.

00:15:53.880 Yeah, and I think you're right, and I think I would even go almost further in some of the

00:15:58.480 evidence that we saw at the Public Order Emergency Commission, and I know we were talking almost

00:16:02.580 daily at the time, is there was evidence when Chrystia Freeland at the time, the deputy minister

00:16:09.320 and finance minister, I think it was, was showing, she was being questioned on some of the notes

00:16:16.420 she took, and it was, she was having discussions with the CEOs of the big banks, and it wasn't

00:16:22.360 even the government telling them, it was them telling the government, label them as terrorists.

00:16:28.400 That's something you can't, we can't forget, is that closeness between the CEOs and the bank,

00:16:38.300 and then without any due process then, same thing, no due process now, and like, it, it happening

00:16:44.220 to me, it just is, really feels like, obviously, a huge violation.

00:16:48.940 You get a letter in the mail, and you have no recourse, not even a one, two, three strikes,

00:16:55.000 you're out, it's just, you're out, and we rely on these online banks and banking in general

00:17:02.820 for our day-to-day activity, and basically, you're not invited into polite society when

00:17:08.180 they do this.

00:17:09.760 Yeah, you know, there's this increased digitization of how we do commerce, how we do business, how

00:17:15.560 we interact with retailers, but, and it, it is convenient, let's be completely honest, it

00:17:22.860 is convenient to just take out your phone and go, boop, and you're done, but we're trading

00:17:28.260 a lot of freedom away when we do that, because all of a sudden, just like that, you don't

00:17:35.900 have access to your cash, because you've bought into this state of convenience, you don't even

00:17:42.240 have to carry a wallet anymore, everything's on your phone, but then pretty quick, because

00:17:46.540 somebody doesn't like your politics, or you run afoul of the government who wants to paint you as

00:17:52.460 a terrorist, all of a sudden, your life savings are just locked away from you, I mean, it's a

00:18:00.780 terrifying thing, and I've heard stories of people during the Freedom Convoy, the fear that they lived

00:18:06.700 in, that their bank account could be seized every single day, and thinking, how am I going to feed

00:18:10.840 my kids, how am I going to pay my mortgage, and then there were those people that it actually

00:18:15.080 happened to, did the bank ever, have they offered you an explanation, or at least an excuse, I'll say

00:18:23.700 explanation, but what I mean is an excuse for doing this. No, and I posted about this, you know, obviously

00:18:29.220 it's a bit hard to explain things on Twitter, or online, but the last interaction was kind of my third

00:18:38.140 strike, and you're out with the Royal Bank, so it was the third time my bank account was frozen

00:18:43.820 out of the blue, and I had to, I called, and then they said, you have to go in, and I had to beg to

00:18:51.280 get access back to my bank account, I'm like, it's me, transactions are valid, you know, please unfreeze it,

00:18:59.560 and just, I was always met with this disdain, and I, you know, I don't know where that came from,

00:19:07.360 but it was always unpleasant, and I had to fight, and advocate for myself, which I'm fine doing,

00:19:14.780 obviously, but I don't expect it, when it's my own money, and my bank, and we, I thought we had

00:19:21.980 a contract that, you know, I'm the customer, and we have this equal relationship, it certainly never

00:19:28.620 felt that way, and so this time, I actually was at a Bitcoin conference in Calgary, and was inspired to

00:19:35.280 buy a bit more Bitcoin, I made two transactions in a row, to, in two days, and on the second one,

00:19:42.240 the bank froze my bank account, without notifying me, and that's also a frustration, if you're gonna,

00:19:48.500 you know, claim to be the virtuous one, and may want to make sure that I'm not being scammed, and

00:19:54.800 thank you for that, I appreciate it, but maybe let me know that you've also frozen access to my

00:20:00.120 account, that would be the first thing, without knowledge, so I go to do a transaction, no access,

00:20:06.080 I call, they say, I have to go in, I went into the bank, and talk to the teller, and then they had

00:20:17.180 to call the fraud department, and then this is where, and I posted the interaction, because then

00:20:23.080 the fraud department made this young man ask me a series of questions, including, did, did you have

00:20:33.820 to download software on your computer, how long have you been doing, and I'm just like, I'm not a child,

00:20:43.020 I am a professional, I have a young gentleman, he was lovely, other people in the bank, not so,

00:20:50.280 I have to say, he was really lovely, and I'm just like, I, I, it was so uncomfortable, and so

00:20:56.080 unnecessary, and that I recorded it, and I posted that, he went back to the fraud department on the

00:21:03.080 phone, I waited there, like, the criminal that I was, and then at the end of it, he said, okay,

00:21:10.460 your bank account is in order, just be careful in the future with crypto, and I'm like, again,

00:21:16.820 unnecessary lecturing, and then I got the letter, a couple weeks later.

00:21:25.980 Buying crypto isn't illegal, you're not committing a crime by buying crypto, I mean, I guess you might

00:21:31.580 be committing a, a crime against the sensibilities of the big banking system by trying to go outside

00:21:38.820 of it, but it's not a criminal activity to buy crypto.

00:21:44.180 Yeah, and that's where I took offense, too, because I, well, what are you buying with it,

00:21:50.180 and I'm like, well, you know what, it's kind of none of your business, and so, of course, that's

00:21:54.160 where it, you know, escalates, when they're making these demands of me, and I'm like, I know you don't

00:21:59.420 have the ability, the right to be asking me these things, and so I'm not willing to share that

00:22:05.060 information with you, that's just how it's going to be, and so, anyway, but they would not let me

00:22:10.760 access my bank account until I answered those questions, and then, apparently, that was too

00:22:16.460 much for them, and then the letter came in the mail. So, I think the letter came because you exposed

00:22:21.980 what they were up to, they're, they're, like, I think the fact that you posted your conversations

00:22:27.580 with them, they found offensive. Oh, that was only today. Oh, that was only today. Yeah, yesterday.

00:22:32.860 So, this came before you did it. Because people asked for context, and I'm like, all I have is

00:22:37.100 this. I wasn't, I just recorded it because I was so uncomfortable. I never posted it. I wasn't

00:22:43.980 intending to do anything with it, and then, when this letter came, I, I think I said right from the

00:22:49.660 start, I didn't even know what to do with the letter. I just felt so helpless, basically, and I'm like,

00:22:53.820 I'm going to put this on social media, and it took a life of its own. Yeah, I mean, and I see now that

00:23:00.120 you have till the 18th to move all your funds, your, take your business somewhere else. I'm worried

00:23:06.700 that you're going to have a tough time finding another bank that will do business with you now,

00:23:10.220 right? Because, I mean, they all collude. We saw that during the convoy. Yeah, well, thankfully,

00:23:15.740 like I said, after that incident, I knew I, that relationship was not a pleasant one, and it wasn't

00:23:21.100 one that I really wanted to continue. Yeah. So, I have set up a bank account with Bow Valley Credit

00:23:26.720 Union. Nice. And they have been lovely, so that's been great. And so, you know, I wasn't rushing to

00:23:32.540 make any changes, and it's also just a big hassle. So, I guess I'm just going to have to hurry up with

00:23:38.800 making those changes. And so, I guess that's what's next for you. You're moving over to a freedom-minded

00:23:46.140 credit union, Bow Valley. We like those guys over there. Pretty open-minded to the idea of your

00:23:54.260 money being your money, and your opinions should not debank you. How very controversial.

00:24:00.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah. How very 10 years ago, very mainstream, but not in 2025 Canada. But, I guess,

00:24:08.840 what's next for the people that were debanked during the Freedom Convoy, or the people who have

00:24:16.580 gotten similar letters as you? And you can make the inference that it has something to do with their

00:24:24.380 politics. And, you know, people have forgotten. Farm Credit Canada denied farmers credit. And they

00:24:33.220 never actually explained why, but documents show that it was related to their support of the Freedom

00:24:38.760 Convoy. They actually didn't even have to donate to the Freedom Convoy to have their credit denied for

00:24:44.640 political reasons. What happens for those people now? Like, you're a lawyer, you found a great bank

00:24:50.420 that you can work with, but what happens to all those other people who were denied their right to

00:24:57.720 political free speech for fear of being debanked? Yeah, really good question. And I think it really

00:25:03.760 goes to where this country is heading at the moment, and what people are willing to do about it.

00:25:10.060 You know, there's people's... The one thing is that when you push people so far, is people are creative.

00:25:16.740 They're thinking outside the box. And I think that is good. I think in Canada, for a while, we've been

00:25:22.360 quite comfortable with things. And so nobody was pushing the boundaries and the box. So now I think

00:25:30.760 people are looking at alternatives during the COVID era. It started with healthcare. People were

00:25:36.500 recognizing there was an issue here that they were being denied access. So I think in the end, the more

00:25:44.320 tyranny pushes people away, the more people become resilient. And I think that that's also a good thing.

00:25:50.900 It's really exposing what's going on in this country. And because I sue the government, I see it a lot.

00:25:59.160 And it's just, you know, lots of people don't realize how public sector in Canada, and you know,

00:26:08.840 I'm not happy saying this, but it is not serving the public. And we really have to open our eyes up to

00:26:14.560 that. And it's not hard to see when you look around and the public services that are provided to us are

00:26:20.500 failing us. And we're just happily paying more. We really have to come to terms with the fact that

00:26:26.700 something is not right, we need to hold our elected officials to account, demand what's going on in

00:26:34.800 behind the scenes, there demand some accountability and transparency, I think that would really help

00:26:40.560 the public at the public at a minimum.

00:26:43.860 Yeah, you see, like Bow Valley Credit Union, you see these alternative institutions

00:26:50.560 popping up to address the problems with the legacy institutions. While I have you, I want to talk to

00:26:59.120 you about the elephant in the room. And that is the sentencing arguments underway right now.

00:27:05.360 Um, with Tamera Leach and Chris Barber, not just the longest, but I think the most expensive

00:27:12.720 nonviolent mischief trial in the entire Commonwealth. Um, in a normal country, these two wouldn't see

00:27:20.620 the inside of a jail cell, the Crown wants seven and eight years respectively for Tamera Leach and

00:27:27.140 Chris Barber also want to leave Chris Barber unable to support himself and his family by crushing

00:27:33.560 Big Red his iconic truck. Uh, I did some research. These are in line with the sentences received by

00:27:40.140 the Toronto 18. So terrorism related sentences for mischief, because I think the Crown wants to

00:27:48.840 treat these two as terrorists, even though that's not what's happening. But I want to get your take

00:27:54.480 because you were in the public order emergency commission advocating for the truckers. Um, you're

00:28:00.540 really there from the very beginning. What do you see here? What's your take?

00:28:04.860 Well, it goes to everything we've been talking about is what, who is the public

00:28:09.220 servants and institution serving? It's certainly not the public. They are serving and protecting

00:28:16.920 themselves, the system, the bureaucracy. And that's what this is. If you look at crime went down in

00:28:24.580 Ottawa. Tamera Leach and Chris Barber were interacting with the police on a daily basis.

00:28:31.640 They were setting up meetings with city officials. Everyone else abandoned them. All elected officials

00:28:39.380 and anybody in power with the police abandoned them. And they mismanaged the entire protest. And these

00:28:49.200 two individuals are being blamed for elected officials failing, uh, policing officials failing,

00:28:56.000 and a general mismanagement of a protest. Citizens in Ottawa should be rightfully mad at elected officials

00:29:05.460 and the policing department, not Tamera Leach and Chris Barber. They were just the convenient pawns.

00:29:12.260 Yeah. And I think at the end of the day, where else are you supposed to protest to the federal

00:29:18.640 government? If not Ottawa, I think there's a lot of, uh, bureaucratic class grossed out by the fact

00:29:26.380 that blue collar people went to their fancy well-kept city. Um, us Albertans, us Westerners,

00:29:32.680 us blue collar people, we should stay out of their bureaucratic safe space. Yes. We're yucky. We have to

00:29:38.460 stay out of their safe space. There's a lot of that. They felt invaded, uh, by their fellow Canadians.

00:29:44.400 They seem to forget that there are, there are lots of different kinds of Canadians and they think

00:29:51.280 Ottawa is just for their kind of Canadian. Well, and the way you describe that, can you wonder at 0.60

00:29:59.140 all why there's such a growing movement of Alberta independence? It's like, okay, clearly we're not

00:30:05.220 aligned. Clearly you're not interested in welcoming us into this kind and inclusive Ottawa you proclaim

00:30:11.960 to have. And just it, you know, Albertans and Westerners are rightfully frustrated. It just is

00:30:20.600 the next step. Uh, I would argue we're culturally incompatible and that's okay. Um, but how do people

00:30:28.220 find out more about the work that you do? I know you have a podcast, um, you encourage conversations,

00:30:35.180 which is something we're not allowed to have anymore with each other, according to the, the fancy

00:30:39.820 people. So how do people find out more about what you're up to and learn more about your story?

00:30:44.280 Because I think we're going to learn more about your debanking in the coming, uh, days and hours.

00:30:48.960 Yeah. Well, you can find me on X, uh, at each IPAC. That's where I post most of my stuff and on other

00:30:55.020 social media. And, um, just while I'm here too, I'm also anything related to the two class actions

00:31:01.540 I'm involved in that's suing the government, one for the, uh, business restrictions in Alberta. And

00:31:06.600 one is on behalf of vaccine injured the way, again, the government has treated these two groups that

00:31:11.480 have been legitimately harmed by the government directives and mandates. Um, and that is all,

00:31:19.200 you can find all that information on wrath and company. We regularly post, uh, updates, but, um,

00:31:25.120 I have a little website just to pick up, uh, .ca, um, where you could find more about me, but

00:31:31.820 I'm pretty easy to find. If you put my name in, I didn't ask for this everywhere.

00:31:37.460 Nobody ever does. Eva, thanks so much for the work that you do on behalf of Canadians who've had

00:31:44.600 their rights violated at the hands of the state. Uh, it's important work. Um, and, uh, it's,

00:31:51.360 it's important that what happened isn't memory hold by the people who control what his, who think

00:31:59.340 they control what history is. Yeah. Agreed. Well, thank you for having me so much and keep doing what

00:32:05.840 you're doing. We will. Thank you, Eva. Stay with us. Your letters to Ezra unceremoniously read by me

00:32:12.260 up after the break. Last portion of the show is always yours. We exist only because of you. We

00:32:26.580 will never take a penny from any level of government to hold them to account, to do the journalism

00:32:31.160 that we do. So of course we care about what you think about the work that we do. So, uh, we take

00:32:38.420 your viewer feedback, your letters to Ezra on my regular Wednesday night show. I do the last segment

00:32:44.260 viewer feedback. Um, so the viewer feedback today comes from Ezra's reporting at the sentencing hearing,

00:32:54.740 the sentencing arguments are being heard for, as I said, with Eva Chipiak, Tamara Leach and Chris

00:33:01.680 Barber, the two leaders of the entirely peaceful anti-mandate freedom convoy back in 2022. And

00:33:12.320 Ezra's out there on the streets with the big, beautiful Revel News billboard truck. And I went over

00:33:18.940 to the comment section on YouTube to see what you guys had to say. So Alec Turek 433 says the freedom

00:33:27.880 convoy gave me and likely a couple million Canadians hope during a dark, tyrannical moment in this

00:33:32.920 country. I was uplifted by the thousands that came out during the frigid winter to show solidarity

00:33:38.220 and support for those of us that dare to stand up against the vaccine madness mandate. I've heard that

00:33:45.420 over and over again, over the last three years, that when the people saw those trucks rolling

00:33:51.560 and the convoy get bigger and the crowds get bigger and bigger coming out to watch the convoy,

00:33:58.460 people had the scales fall off their eyes because they knew something was wrong, but they didn't know

00:34:05.920 how many other people also felt that same way. But because the government kept us apart, stay home to

00:34:13.260 stay safe. You didn't really know how many other people felt the same way as you. It sort of lifted

00:34:19.460 the gaslighting of the government. Hante Weekai 1215 says, I cried when the freedom convoy rolled

00:34:30.660 through Canada. So proud. I'm crying right now for the heroes who tried so hard to free us. And we have

00:34:36.240 other Canadians and our government treating them like this. It's so devastating. Freedom. I can't believe

00:34:41.940 how Canada changed so much. Next one. YouTube Free Speech Outlaw says, as an outsider looking in,

00:34:54.180 this seems very ridiculous to me. It seems as long as you're a lefty or have left-leaning protests,

00:35:00.740 you can get away with whatever you'd like, no matter how violent it is. But if you're right-leaning

00:35:06.260 and have a peaceful protest and are semi-noisy, look, all protests are noisy. You think those

00:35:11.420 Hamas protests are quiet? You get treated like a terrorist. And if I were the judge, I would have

00:35:17.800 said this is a waste of my time. This case is null and void. I would go after the government or the

00:35:24.160 premier for wasting people's time. Time and money. This is the most expensive mischief trial in Canadian

00:35:32.000 history. Deerland AB9833 says, I remember being so grateful to and for the truckers taking the

00:35:42.140 actions they took. Somebody had to do it. And so often these movements are led by blue-collar people

00:35:50.900 who just don't take it anymore. That someone was standing up for us when most of us were feeling

00:35:57.540 so helpless. All the people cheering them on as they went down the road. I was in tears of hope

00:36:02.820 and gratefulness and the horrifying shock that I felt as our country's government did not even give

00:36:09.140 them the grace to talk to them or us as citizens of our country. I send you love. I mean, that's the

00:36:15.400 thing. We weren't being listened to by the federal government. So where do you go to talk to them?

00:36:22.700 Ottawa. Justin Trudeau will meet with anybody. He didn't meet with them.

00:36:27.540 I remember he met with Chief Chicken Noodle. You remember her? 10 years ago plus,

00:36:33.220 Chief Teresa Spence of Attawapiskat. The Harper government was auditing her reserve for

00:36:41.760 mismanagement of funds. And she went on a hunger strike. You know, like the houses in Attawapiskat

00:36:50.020 were falling down. She's rolling in an escalate, her and her boyfriend, who is the financial manager of

00:36:55.340 the band. And she went on a hunger strike, which was the fakest hunger strike ever because she didn't

00:37:02.480 lose any weight during a hunger strike. And she said she was sleeping in a tent in a, or a teepee

00:37:09.840 in a park in Ottawa. She was going to a hotel every night. And Justin Trudeau went to meet with her.

00:37:16.840 He went and sat in her teepee with her mid-afternoon because, you know, she wasn't there at night.

00:37:26.060 John Katsaros, 7340. There have been at least 100 free Palestine protests in Ottawa with police

00:37:33.880 escorts since October 7th, 2023. Someone should do a Freedom of Information request to find out

00:37:38.840 how much has been spent for that policing. I think it would be in the millions. Thank you.

00:37:42.960 That's what I love to do around here at Rebel News is file Freedom of Information. I'm writing a note

00:37:50.360 for myself. I want the policing costs. And I will tell you, those protests have been violent.

00:37:56.400 Violent. Chris Dacey, independent journalist, he was violently assaulted in Ottawa at the hands of

00:38:06.360 these people. Their bank accounts, not frozen. No one's even wondered, where's all the funding

00:38:13.140 coming from? We have actually a government agency called FinTrack. It's set up to track the proceeds

00:38:19.860 of terrorism. But the only time in recent memory that I can recall it being used was to go after

00:38:25.680 the Freedom Convoy. And we have quite likely Iranian-funded protests on the streets of the

00:38:32.580 nation's capital every single week that are violent and FinTrack. I don't know. There's the

00:38:37.560 tumbleweeds rolling through that office. Mary Martins, 6805. The police in Ottawa knew the

00:38:45.200 truckers weren't breaking any laws, so they allowed the protests to go on. The only dangerous thing that

00:38:49.980 we all saw on TV was the black-clad terrorists that came on horses and trampled the protesters.

00:38:55.400 That surely was breaking Canadian laws. The ones on horseback should be the ones facing time in jail

00:39:00.180 for attacking a group of people who were peacefully protesting in a free country called Canada.

00:39:04.060 During the trial, they weren't able to find any of the protesters breaking any of Canada's laws.

00:39:08.500 Well, they were able to convict them of mischief, which is really just a catch-all of the police

00:39:14.640 don't know what to do with you. So, mischief. The protesters were and are Canada's heroes. They

00:39:21.720 don't deserve to spend one day in jail. Tamara spent 50. Maybe this case should be taken to the 0.95

00:39:26.520 United Nations to get some proper results without the horrible bias of Trudeau and now

00:39:30.360 Carney's government. This is a terrible slur on Canada, which used to be a country to be proud of.

00:39:38.440 Well, guys, that's the show for today.

00:39:42.400 Ezra should be back in the driver's seat

00:39:45.000 tomorrow, depending on how long the sentencing arguments go on in Ottawa for Tamara Leach and Chris

00:39:53.520 Barber to see his coverage and to support Tamara because we found out that she was not like she's 0.99

00:40:03.600 paying out of pocket for bodyguards. We thought that's outrageous. You can go to helptamara.com.

00:40:10.680 So, that's it. Let's keep Tamara and Chris and their families in our thoughts and our prayers if

00:40:18.460 that's something that you do. And as Ezra Levant always says, keep fighting for freedom.

00:40:40.680 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - July 24, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ CBC's $1.5 billion lie machine： Fake graves and smear campaigns

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