Rebel News Podcast - May 14, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ CBC sets up undercover sting to humiliate conservative women


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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I want to talk to you about this crazy hoax that the CBC has been trying to
00:00:05.300 perpetrate against conservative activists like Frances Whittowson and Lindsay Shepard. 0.81
00:00:09.860 Just so gross. It's not undercover journalism. It's not comedy. It is a hoax designed to humiliate
00:00:16.980 conservatives. You're not going to believe what we show you. But first, let me invite you to become
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00:00:26.480 what we're going to show you.
00:00:28.100 There's a clip that Frances Whitteson recorded
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00:00:56.480 tonight the cbc sets up an undercover sting operation
00:01:13.760 not to catch criminals but to humiliate conservatives it's may 13th and this is
00:01:19.380 Ezra Levant show shame on you you sensorism bug
00:01:26.980 i remember almost 10 years ago something that the cbc did called the trump effect and the trump
00:01:43.080 effect if you don't remember was them claiming that it turned the whole world racist including
00:01:48.880 including canada too so trump had just been inaugurated and the cbc's thesis was there was
00:01:54.900 racism everywhere on the streets in toronto and montreal but the problem is they couldn't
00:01:58.900 actually find any racists and they looked so they hired actors to pretend to be racist
00:02:09.220 and to well actually to be racist to go out and to say and do racist things and actually to sell
00:02:15.280 racist stuff and to engage people in conversations to whip them up it was a entrapment
00:02:23.240 take a look for yourself at the cbc bragging about this on a show they call cbc marketplace
00:02:30.080 which is supposed to be about debunking hoaxes they committed a hoax themselves and they were
00:02:35.680 proud take a look ten dollar shirts white pride worldwide white pride ten dollars white pride
00:02:42.780 worldwide.
00:02:43.780 Hey Kyle, are you kidding me?
00:02:49.780 You want to know why you decided to buy that t-shirt?
00:02:52.780 Because I agree with him. 0.98
00:02:53.780 It's disgusting.
00:02:54.780 It's frightening a little as well. 0.98
00:02:56.780 I am anti-immigration. 1.00
00:02:57.780 I can honestly say that. 1.00
00:02:58.780 I'm anti-immigration. 0.99
00:02:59.780 How are you able to justify saying getting rid of immigrants when our own people are immigrants
00:03:06.780 here?
00:03:07.780 I believe that Trump has tapped into something that was already there.
00:03:08.780 You wanted to buy a t-shirt.
00:03:09.780 Yeah.
00:03:10.780 Why?
00:03:11.780 I live in a neighborhood where everybody is from a different country.
00:03:17.480 My kids go to a school where in 22 kids out of the class, there's 17 languages spoken. 0.98
00:03:22.560 That's the country I live in, not that. 0.66
00:03:33.020 That was so gross.
00:03:35.360 But that happens a lot these days. 0.93
00:03:37.180 It's a cousin to racist hoaxes.
00:03:40.240 Like I remember when the BBC, other racist hoaxes, like I remember when there was a young woman in the greater Toronto area who claimed that she was attacked by a man who used scissors to cut her hijab. 0.95
00:03:58.680 I know that's such a weird thing to say and it fell apart so quickly on scrutiny, but the whole Muslim PR community was behind this girl. 0.95
00:04:07.920 Justin Trudeau retweeted the claim. It was very quickly proven to be a hoax. 0.93
00:04:12.980 And as you can see by this international story in the BBC, the family finally apologized for lying.
00:04:20.080 That's because there's so little supply of racism in the West, but such a huge demand from the left.
00:04:25.760 You may recall a few weeks ago, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC, was charged in the states that were indicted for fraud.
00:04:32.520 they literally took money from their donors to pay people to be racist in the Ku Klux Klan and
00:04:38.760 other places. And then they fundraised from their donors off the shock of these racists who were
00:04:44.940 secretly on their payroll. And, you know, it's the same sort of thing the CBC is doing, isn't it?
00:04:50.260 Now, I should tell you, I am not totally averse to performance art, even if there's some politics
00:04:56.120 involved. But generally, if you are a reporter, if you're a journalist and you find yourself
00:05:02.360 lying about who you are and paying other people to lie and paying other people to be racist
00:05:08.400 and using tricks to provoke a reaction that wouldn't naturally occur.
00:05:13.540 I think you're doing journalism wrong.
00:05:16.240 That may be something else you're doing, but I don't think it's news.
00:05:21.120 Which brings me to an absolutely insane story today about Lindsay Shepard, the former teacher's
00:05:27.560 assistant or grad student rather at Wilfrid Laurier University. You might recall she recommended
00:05:34.860 watching a video of Jordan Peterson to her class and she was subject to a terrible persecution.
00:05:41.280 Frances Widowson, a professor at Mount Royal University, fired for having a conservative view
00:05:46.820 on Indigenous relations. Both of these women were targeted by the CBC because they supported
00:05:56.320 the Canadian history that says Sir John A. Macdonald was a hero, not a genocider.
00:06:01.840 So the CBC set up a massive sting operation, setting up fake companies and giving their
00:06:08.460 people fake names to get close to Lindsay Shepard and Frances Whitteson by telling them
00:06:13.800 flattering lies.
00:06:14.880 Oh, we love you.
00:06:15.700 We're supporting you.
00:06:16.860 What you're doing is very brave.
00:06:18.260 And then to trick them by filming and not just filming them, but provoking them and doing
00:06:24.980 things to get a reaction. It's just sort of incredible. Don't you find it interesting that
00:06:29.860 both women I just mentioned were fired for their views? So these are not strong people crushing
00:06:35.320 weak people. These were people who themselves were crushed, fired for their views. And yet the
00:06:40.240 mighty CBC thinks they're the ones to do this. I mean, it would be something if they went after
00:06:45.820 a cabinet minister or exposed some sort of grift or graft. That's what James O'Keefe does at
00:06:51.720 Project Veritas, you could say that his people are deceptive and that they claim to be strangers
00:06:58.760 found on a dating app, but they don't trick people into saying things. In fact, it's sort of the
00:07:04.600 opposite. It's getting people to let their guard down. And the people that James O'Keefe always
00:07:08.740 goes after are powerful people in powerful organizations. And he uses the trick of sending
00:07:15.120 someone out, usually on a date with them, is to let them speak candidly with their guard down.
00:07:20.000 That's not the case of what happened here. These are not powerful people who need to be held to account, especially in Lindsay Shepard's case. I mean, she's a fairly quiet mom. I mean, she is a journalist too, but she's not a powerful cabinet minister.
00:07:33.680 It's almost unthinkable that a Canadian journalist would engage in a trap like this for someone in high public office.
00:07:42.260 And it's certainly unthinkable that the CBC would do so.
00:07:45.100 I suppose they might do so if they were going after a conservative like Pierre Polyam.
00:07:50.060 I mean, that's sort of the CBC specialty these days is going after the underdog, going after the opposition.
00:07:56.080 Here's a recent video just to remind you of Frances Whittowson being physically attacked
00:08:01.200 when she was at a university recently talking about her point of view on indigenous relations.
00:08:07.720 Imagine looking at this elderly woman being attacked and thinking,
00:08:11.120 she needs to be taken down a peg. Take a look.
00:08:25.480 Thank you.
00:08:55.480 I don't want to keep you there.
00:09:03.480 Why are you being arrested?
00:09:07.480 The person loves her.
00:09:09.480 It's completely failed.
00:09:11.480 It's an academic mission.
00:09:17.480 It allows for policies to be professional.
00:09:21.480 and it should not have an academic institution.
00:09:33.480 Academic institution is a place where you can explore ideas.
00:09:38.480 You can have free speech.
00:09:43.480 So, like I say, a CBC funded project conceived and executed in secret was designed to trick
00:10:08.600 these conservatives, about being on their side.
00:10:11.060 But the whole thing was a hoax, a stunt to embarrass them, humiliate them, trick them.
00:10:17.600 Frances Whittowson sort of realized something was awry,
00:10:20.900 and she recorded some of it on her cell phone with the main provocateur.
00:10:26.040 It's terribly embarrassing for the provocateur, that is.
00:10:29.620 Take a listen.
00:10:30.980 What's this about?
00:10:33.520 Tell me what this is about.
00:10:38.600 Who are you? 1.00
00:10:56.140 This is a pile of shoes that I believe two Aboriginal people came and dumped on the table. 1.00
00:11:04.480 this seems to be a setup of some outfit that's doing a reality television show 0.96
00:11:10.600 that wants to paint me i guess as some kind of a racist or something that they're going to post
00:11:17.860 on social media what's your name sir mike smith mike smith yeah i and and i think um yeah you got
00:11:27.400 it exactly right you you've defined it precise well i wouldn't say exactly right it's this is
00:11:33.420 this is uh social experiment okay and it's on video and i'm on video too so we're on video
00:11:44.060 together yeah we're on video together yep so um i think that you've figured it out and now we can
00:11:51.340 wrap it up okay but uh am i am i the target are you got other people are you just focusing on me
00:11:57.780 No, you're not a target. No. You're participating.
00:12:01.740 Okay. And what am I participating in?
00:12:04.540 This social experiment.
00:12:05.980 Okay. What is the social experiment?
00:12:08.860 You just experienced it. You could tell me.
00:12:11.820 You wanted to get me Francis Whittowson, who is a known controversial figure.
00:12:20.040 you wanted to get me to talk about my views in a i guess a candid way
00:12:27.680 uh which i i told everything truthful you you've you brought two who are these aboriginal were
00:12:36.420 they aboriginal people we don't know i i've met people who who are japanese and i thought they
00:12:41.220 were aboriginal so these are two aboriginal people that you brought in uh oh i didn't bring
00:12:47.180 i didn't bring aboriginal people in now i'm i work for them you work for the aboriginal who do you
00:12:53.540 sorry who do you work for uh for them who is them the aboriginal people indigenous people
00:13:00.960 that you're talking about so yeah so you yep that's that's the whole that's the deal other
00:13:06.780 details have emerged that are super gross i mentioned before the lindsey shepherd is a young 1.00
00:13:11.640 mom. Well, the CBC undercover team really wanted to film her at home and had their plans for the
00:13:19.660 young children. The CBC wanted to set up plans and interact with and deal with the kids. I mean,
00:13:26.820 the message was slightly vague. What are you even doing going to her home? And why are you
00:13:32.420 obsessed with her children? So gross. And I'm not sure. I think they sort of claim this as being 0.99
00:13:38.940 humorous or funny. It's not. They came up with this trick of Sir John A. McDonald figurines,
00:13:46.160 which is sort of interesting. And they promised Lindsay Shepard cash and travel.
00:13:52.020 You know, they must have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on this. I counted.
00:13:56.300 There was a picture and there was 25 of them working on this. You have 25 people working
00:14:01.100 on an elaborate stunt like this. You're probably over a million dollars. And again, one of my
00:14:05.900 criticisms is if this is supposed to be comedy, it's just deeply unfunny. I don't know if these
00:14:12.440 people claim to be journalists. I don't even know if they could claim to be actors or comedians.
00:14:17.540 I think they're just thugs who managed to get funding for something to humiliate some women.
00:14:25.120 One of them, by the way, is a name I recognize because it's a name you don't forget.
00:14:29.320 Gits Crazy Boy was one of the, you know, he's been doing stunts like this for decades and he
00:14:35.580 was one of the ones aimed at Francis Whittowson. He's always been for hire though. He's a marginal
00:14:41.760 person. I met him in Vancouver almost 15 years ago when I was part of a debate on the oil sands
00:14:48.380 and he tried to crash the events. And I don't know, what do you think of it? He was gets crazy
00:14:54.260 boy. In this case, he was working for foreign funded anti-oil activists. Today he's working 0.92
00:15:00.400 for CBC-funded anti-conservative activists.
00:15:04.400 This is what your tax dollars are going to.
00:15:06.800 ...of the population here.
00:15:07.720 It's not going to come from 80 people.
00:15:08.780 This isn't going to happen.
00:15:10.760 The Tarnassans do set the environmental standard 0.99
00:15:12.580 for the rest of Canada. 0.97
00:15:13.860 My people are dying indiscriminately right now.
00:15:15.500 It's up to each and every one of you members here
00:15:16.980 to do something about it and get more educated on it,
00:15:19.420 learn both sides of the story,
00:15:20.480 not just mine, but his as well.
00:15:21.480 Thank you.
00:15:30.400 um you know i didn't play the race card which is what
00:15:59.680 we're seeing right here. But I will now. But I will now. You know, there is no industry in Canada
00:16:10.200 that employs more Aboriginal people than the oil sands. Yeah, it's sort of gross. Huge CBC effort 1.00
00:16:17.220 having a U.S.-based Asian provocateur. Let me tell you, I'm open to humour, but usually humour 0.99
00:16:25.100 isn't punching down. It's not saying, can I interact with your children? Which is sort of
00:16:29.560 gross. Sacha Baron Cohen is sort of famous for this. He has different characters. Borat is one
00:16:35.080 of them you might recall. And he dresses up and he tries to trick people. Donald Trump is famous
00:16:41.420 for being someone who very quickly detected that it was a hoax. I don't know if you've ever seen
00:16:46.020 that. One of the characters was Ali G, where Sacha Baron Cohen would pretend to be a British rapper.
00:16:54.420 Trump figured that out in just a few seconds.
00:16:56.660 Here's that.
00:17:00.060 And how does I call you, like?
00:17:02.120 You can call me Donald.
00:17:03.560 For real.
00:17:04.400 It's Trump, isn't it?
00:17:05.980 Right.
00:17:06.320 And Rakim, remember at the beginning, what are you doing?
00:17:08.300 TR, something.
00:17:11.080 So how long has there been businesses?
00:17:14.940 Well, business started from the day one, from early in the world.
00:17:19.820 And what was they doing business in back in the day?
00:17:23.780 Many, many, many years ago, hundreds of millions of years ago,
00:17:27.940 people were doing business and they were trading in rocks and stones and other things.
00:17:32.520 Who would want to buy rocks?
00:17:34.000 I don't know, man. You've got to ask them that.
00:17:37.080 I've got some business idea that I just want to tell you about. 0.99
00:17:40.100 And I'll be a fool if... 0.98
00:17:41.060 Very quickly. 0.75
00:17:42.020 What is the most popular thing in the world?
00:17:46.940 Music.
00:17:48.560 No.
00:17:50.080 Tell me.
00:17:51.180 Ice cream.
00:17:52.360 Okay.
00:17:52.700 everyone has it and what is the problem with ice cream I have no idea it drips 0.99
00:17:59.060 okay so me idea is what to make a drip proof ice cream no that's a fucking
00:18:05.840 brilliant idea this all right whatever you ain't gonna come out with that though
00:18:10.940 no I promise you I won't well me idea is to come out with just like these ice
00:18:15.860 ice cream gloves that make the ice cream not go on your hands and make it all well sticky
00:18:22.100 and also keep your hands warm when you is eating the ice cream.
00:18:28.020 Is you in or is you in?
00:18:29.680 Okay, well, it sounds like a good idea and I hope you make a lot of money.
00:18:33.160 Good luck, folks. It's been nice seeing you. You take care of yourself, okay?
00:18:36.160 Is you going to be in on that?
00:18:37.080 Well, it sounds like an interesting one.
00:18:38.120 We've got like P. Diddy is going to be in it.
00:18:40.280 Good.
00:18:40.720 Good for Trump. It's surprising how many people fell for it.
00:18:43.180 But it was sometimes funny.
00:18:45.040 And I guess Donald Trump, that was punching up.
00:18:47.300 So good for Sacha Baron Cohen for trying.
00:18:50.400 But what happens if you're not going after a wealthy, famous, powerful billionaire?
00:18:54.660 You're going after a professor who was fired and is physically threatened.
00:18:58.520 And you're going after a young mom.
00:19:00.020 It's just not as funny anymore.
00:19:02.080 And then when you learn that this is paid for by the government, it's not funny at all.
00:19:07.660 When you learn that they targeted Aaron Gunn, a conservative MP2.
00:19:11.820 so they deliberately went in to mess with the opposition.
00:19:16.360 They went after other media, too.
00:19:18.640 Anyone who disagrees with them.
00:19:20.240 Probably a multi-million dollar project.
00:19:22.800 So the government broadcaster is trying to mess with the government's opponents.
00:19:27.720 Just like the government media panels obsess over Pierre Paglia
00:19:31.320 but give a red carpet to Mark Carney.
00:19:34.880 The government media is being subsidized and those subsidies are being increased.
00:19:39.280 Government media doesn't touch Mark Carney.
00:19:41.820 government critics though are being silenced there was a story in black walks just the other
00:19:47.780 day about a secret meeting of a blacklist of journalists that are supposed to be kept out of
00:19:53.220 various places i wonder if rebel news is on it um i mean there's even a government comedy show
00:19:59.220 called this hour is 22 minutes they really don't go after mark carney but boy the number one target
00:20:04.700 is donald trump and their number two target is pierre polyan so much for speaking truth to power
00:20:09.360 I remember once at Sun News Network, so we're talking about 15 years ago now, I went to the CBC headquarters to not to trick anyone, but to do a little video stand up.
00:20:22.660 I'll see if I can find the clip of that.
00:20:25.500 But after I went there, I did an access to information request to see what the CBC had to say about my visit.
00:20:31.840 I was just curious.
00:20:32.580 And the executives at the CBC were very alarmed by my visit.
00:20:37.180 And one of their proposals, though, was to send their comedy team, this hour has 22 minutes, after me.
00:20:45.640 I don't know, maybe that would have been funny, but do you see what they've admitted?
00:20:49.880 That they use their comedians, they use their staff as a weapon to settle scores and grudges.
00:20:57.540 I mean, could have been funny, but never think for a second that the CBC are nonpartisan or neutral.
00:21:03.180 Their own executives refer to their comedians as weapons that can be used.
00:21:08.740 The CBC has a lot of rules about this kind of trickery and undercover conduct, by the way.
00:21:12.640 I know, because I remember once they jumped out of the bushes in a gotcha,
00:21:16.080 this same CBC marketplace, they were trying to get a doctor on behalf of a lying patient.
00:21:23.820 It was actually terrifying, the smears they were going to say.
00:21:27.200 They went undercover, they pretended to be his patients,
00:21:29.660 but they broke their own rules so many times in the end.
00:21:33.020 and this is when I was a practicing lawyer,
00:21:35.580 we managed to convince the CBC to kill the story
00:21:38.100 because it was just based on lies.
00:21:41.380 The reason we were able to convince the CBC
00:21:43.440 is we showed how they violated their own rules.
00:21:46.260 I'm certain they violated many of their own rules here.
00:21:49.800 But it's the usual.
00:21:51.620 I mean, the government broadcaster is the single largest purveyor
00:21:56.020 of disinformation and fake news in Canada.
00:21:58.800 This whole project I've just been discussing is fake news from beginning to end.
00:22:06.500 Hey, by the way, do you think they'll use this kind of trickery,
00:22:11.580 oh, say, if the Alberta referendum goes ahead or the next election?
00:22:16.740 Oh, you can bet on it.
00:22:18.760 Stay with us. More ahead.
00:22:19.960 well as you may know whenever i hear of a fire at a church i do my best to learn as much about
00:22:35.340 it as i can i've been doing this for quite some time i remember the horrific day when the notre
00:22:39.640 dame cathedral in paris france was torched and before the investigation they announced it wasn't
00:22:46.240 terrorism. I don't buy that. We sent our reporters at the time, and it was just a heartbreaking thing
00:22:51.340 to cover. Thankfully, that enormous cathedral has been rebuilt. It really was striking at the heart
00:22:57.460 of France. Here in Canada, more than 100 churches have been vandalized, tortured, or even burnt to
00:23:05.160 the ground. And I hear about them just obliquely, like I see something on some obscure social media
00:23:12.220 post. I find it very hard to get the facts about them because it's almost as if, I'm not going to
00:23:17.440 say there's a publication ban, but it sort of almost feels like that. Like it's, you have to
00:23:22.440 go and get the news yourself. And indeed I do. Just very recently, I was out in Quebec where an
00:23:27.860 enormous church, I'm not going to say enormous, a large church in the heart of the city burnt to
00:23:32.760 the ground. And what was so curious about that is it was so close to the fire station, you could
00:23:38.580 literally see the fire department I don't know how that happened I went to one in New Brunswick
00:23:43.460 in that case I have a theory personal theory that maybe it was just because the church hadn't been
00:23:49.540 used for a while then looked like an abandoned building it was attacked I don't know and that's
00:23:54.180 the thing what's behind this who's behind this there is no task force of CSIS and the RCMP and
00:24:02.840 local police we don't have a a the same sort of an example the missing and murdered indigenous
00:24:11.660 women task force there's enormous police cooperation it's obviously a clear priority
00:24:17.820 you see politicians refer to it all the time because there's a phenomenon they wanted to
00:24:22.500 understand which is missing and murdered indigenous women and i think the police actually came up
00:24:26.720 with a pretty good explanation of what's happening i won't get into that now but there's not the same
00:24:31.400 interest in churches being burned and our small acts of journalism are just that they're not
00:24:39.500 an important professional scientific investigation as to what happened but i am so happy today to
00:24:48.840 report to you that our favorite charity the democracy fund has started a project that you
00:24:54.740 can learn about and i'm just going to get this website correct so i don't give it to you wrong
00:24:59.060 The website is arsoninvestigation.ca.
00:25:04.920 The Democracy Fund is going to have a formal and professional investigation of these fires.
00:25:11.980 Joining me now to talk about it is Mark Joseph, the boss of litigation at the Democracy Fund.
00:25:16.780 Mark, great to see you again.
00:25:17.780 Thanks for having me.
00:25:18.920 Now, I had a rather long ramble there, but the real news of the day is that you and the
00:25:24.400 democracy fund are retaining a professional fire inspector is that the job title that he holds
00:25:32.040 to review all of the church fires he can in canada is that right yeah basically we've retained a fire
00:25:39.780 investigator he's a fire marshal in alberta uh he's has decades of experience he's got over
00:25:45.120 i think uh 250 fire investigations under his belt for arson and explosions uh and he's going to take
00:25:52.420 comprehensive forensic review of uh the documents produced after the investigation of about a hundred
00:25:58.660 of the church fire so not all of those churches burned to the ground but but obviously all of them
00:26:03.800 were damaged by fire in some uh respect i think that's very interesting are these documents
00:26:09.640 available to him are they available to the public i i've never thought about getting a report from
00:26:16.720 a fire investigator after a fire i now that i think about that would be an obvious thing to do
00:26:22.400 do you know anything about the process he'll follow well that's interesting we sort of learned
00:26:29.480 of this process i think from recent quebec fire that we're following uh and quebec allows you to
00:26:34.180 put in a request for information so we retain a any tip specialist access to information private
00:26:39.840 online request specialist who's going to go and pull these uh documents some which will be redacted
00:26:45.700 obviously for privacy reasons but we're hoping to get uh incident reports or arson investigation
00:26:50.560 reports uh police logs um all of those sorts of documents and he's going to do a forensic review
00:26:57.360 to see if there's any methodological errors or evidentiary errors uh to see what exactly
00:27:03.760 the authorities looked at before coming to the conclusions they did when i was in new brunswick
00:27:09.940 uh the door of a church had been torched and the fire had been put out before it consumed the whole
00:27:16.700 church. The church was somewhat run down. It was no longer being used as a church. So I can see
00:27:23.400 someone say, oh, that was just some random abandoned building that some kids thought they
00:27:28.600 burned. That's plausible, but I don't know. And I want to know if the police have a theory,
00:27:36.340 if they have any witnesses, if they saw some kids and detained them and released them. Like
00:27:41.600 that that could be a church attack because it's a church i don't know and and the thing is we we
00:27:47.660 would have the resources to know if it were politically important it is politically important
00:27:54.520 that this story be covered up that's how it seems no one in authority wants to talk about it so i
00:27:59.920 feel like the democracy fund is filling the gap here well right i mean there's there's been a
00:28:05.160 certain amount of incuriosity on the part of the authorities there's as you said there's been no
00:28:09.200 RCMP task force. There's no parliamentary committee struck. It just seems like it's
00:28:15.060 been left to the media and some outside research to take a look at it. And that's strange. If there
00:28:20.120 was a hundred mosques or a hundred gudwaras or temples burned to the ground, I think that would
00:28:26.100 get a lot of attention. I don't know why churches and synagogues don't get the same amount of
00:28:31.560 attention, but it is strange. So we're going to take a look. We enter this with no preconceived
00:28:37.280 notions. We're going to take a look and see if there's any patterns here, um, and, and what's
00:28:42.680 involved. I, I attended the wreckage of a major cathedral in Toronto. I almost forgot about it.
00:28:49.720 I mean, it, it was a very large church and it, I understand was deemed an arson yet the, and it's
00:28:57.460 such a, it's such a landmark in Toronto. So you have a large church in the largest city and yes,
00:29:04.980 it was arson and no one's talking about it no one's looking into it it just it feels as odd
00:29:10.960 as the assassination of that billionaire couple that you know it's a mystery who was behind it
00:29:17.300 it feels like the same sort of mystery when that billionaire husband and wife team were murdered
00:29:22.640 there was a thousand news articles because it was perhaps salacious or shocking i think this church
00:29:29.220 being torched got one story i mean i suppose it's not the same as a double murder but it's just
00:29:34.140 it neither the media nor the politicians have taken an interest i think we need to know and
00:29:40.880 if it's just a hundred churches by coincidence okay but let's test that let's let's send a real
00:29:47.960 fire investigator to find out right i the mcdonald laurier institute i think that a statistical study
00:29:53.960 so we don't believe nor do they i believe that that this was just in the normal course you'd
00:30:00.260 have 100 churches burned down in, you know, several years. That doesn't seem plausible. So
00:30:04.920 as you say, there's got to be something else going on. I think 24 churches have been burned
00:30:10.060 to the ground and there's nine charges have been laid, something like that. So that's a policy
00:30:16.560 decision. The judicial resources are scarce. The Crown has to decide what to pursue. And there's
00:30:21.940 only nine charges for arson laid. That seems strange to us. Again, my colleague Adam and I
00:30:26.960 in the trenches, dealing with low-level charges for street preachers who've been charged
00:30:32.320 for things, and as democracy-funded, defended Pastor Pawlowski, and that the Crown spends
00:30:38.660 a lot of time and effort going after certain types of people, and there doesn't seem to
00:30:42.700 be the same sort of resources devoted to this issue, which is strange to us.
00:30:47.040 Yeah.
00:30:48.040 Well, let me read a couple paragraphs from your press release the other day.
00:30:51.040 The expert, and you're referring to the fire investigator, will then examine, among other
00:30:54.980 things whether fires were investigated properly according to professional standards whether the
00:31:00.420 pattern of destruction indicates an organized or ideologically motivated campaign and whether
00:31:06.500 canadian authorities responded according to international standards findings from the
00:31:10.980 investigation will be compiled into a public report which may inform future legal action
00:31:15.460 public advocacy efforts and formal demands for government accountability you mentioned not just
00:31:20.580 churches but synagogues too which have been hit in recent attacks i know there was some fire bombings
00:31:25.780 in montreal in toronto they seem to prefer gunfire these days dark days but i'm glad the democracy
00:31:32.740 fund is on it i'm a fan of the democracy fund i sometimes call myself a chief volunteer there
00:31:38.900 if you want to help with this project the democracy fund is hiring this fire investigator
00:31:44.820 he's a real professional so this is not something that can be done for free there are the expenses
00:31:49.540 of the access to information requests if you believe that we should have a independent
00:31:55.460 professional fire investigator review all the records of these church fires and i think it's
00:32:01.500 a really good idea then go to the website which we've set up tdf has set up arsoninvestigation.ca
00:32:10.740 last word to you mark yeah we're hoping to get a report out uh it could take some months to go
00:32:16.600 through it uh but we'll keep our our donors and our viewers uh apprised of the situation and if
00:32:21.520 you want to help out you can go to that website you know i think it's a good idea i mean it's
00:32:24.980 really i can't think of anything else practical to do on the rebel news side we'd like to cover
00:32:29.280 these things journalistically just so there's some sort of public record uh some of the churches
00:32:34.780 we've attended no one cares like just zero but once you have that public record what are you
00:32:40.660 going to do about it and this in uh fire investigation seems like an answer that's
00:32:45.520 arsoninvestigation.ca stay with us more ahead
00:32:49.480 hey welcome back your thoughts on our act for alberta campaign wayne canola says i beg to
00:33:03.940 differ on the trudeau carny cult they ultimately want to stamp down the energy industry so they
00:33:08.280 can steal the wealth as communists are wont to do. Yeah, I think you could be right. It's just,
00:33:14.180 I think of the old Soviet propaganda posters. You would see working, I'm thinking of the symbol,
00:33:19.420 the hammer and the sickle. And so many propaganda posters are smoke belting factories. They praised
00:33:28.040 factories and trades. I think they believed in production, coal, steel, electricity, bulldozers,
00:33:36.040 whatever. They just wanted the means of production owned by the proletariat or by the 0.95
00:33:41.300 Communist Party. I don't think the Russians actually wanted to shut down production. They
00:33:46.360 just wanted it owned by the Communist Party. I could be wrong. Clive Lewis says Carney wants
00:33:51.280 destabilization of the Canadian economy. Then he can bring in whatever legislation he needs to
00:33:56.220 fix it. Carney won't live in Canada for two weeks after he's done being PM. You know, you're so right
00:34:01.160 on that. I mean, Michael Ignatieff, after he ran for Canadian liberal leader and then ran in the
00:34:04.880 election and got crushed. It wasn't long before he left Canada for Europe again. Eugene Price says,
00:34:11.880 Keith Wilson for premier. Keith Wilson is doing a great job providing sober-minded thoughts,
00:34:17.000 especially on legal matters in Alberta. And I'm a little bit worried because we don't see a real
00:34:21.580 leader of the project. I mean, if I had to choose someone, it would be Brad Wall,
00:34:28.200 the former premier of Saskatchewan, who's very pro-Western. He doesn't care about offending
00:34:33.700 Toronto. He was very successful bringing Saskatchewan back for the brink, but now he
00:34:38.180 watches how Trudeau and Carney are throwing it all away. I wish that he, Brad Wall, would consider
00:34:45.340 leading the movement because it needs a leader like him. Well, that's our show for today. Until
00:34:50.280 tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at all, good night
00:34:54.780 and keep fighting for freedom.