Rebel News Podcast - September 18, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Celebrating a Decade of Rebel News!


Episode Stats

Length

52 minutes

Words per Minute

160.6008

Word Count

8,390

Sentence Count

555

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today, an interview with Karima Saad, lawyer and independent street journalist
00:00:06.660 whose specialty is covering protests, even those that turn violent. It's very timely now that
00:00:13.000 Donald Trump says he wants to ban Antifa as a terrorist organization. I'll also give you a
00:00:19.260 retrospective. Tonight is our 10th anniversary party in Calgary. I'll have more details on how
00:00:24.620 you can participate in our upcoming party. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber
00:00:29.380 to Rebel News Plus. It's the video version of this podcast. Especially with stories like
00:00:34.600 Karima Saad, I want you to see the street violence, not just hear about it. Go to rebelnewsplus.com
00:00:40.580 and click subscribe.
00:00:41.700 Tonight, happy birthday to Rebel News. It's September 18th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:01.020 You know, Rebel News turned 10 years old earlier this year, but we're only getting around to having
00:01:21.780 a celebration now. As soon as I'm done recording this, I'm hopping on a plane, and we're going to
00:01:26.880 have a celebration event in Calgary, and Tamara Leach will be providing the entertainment. As you
00:01:31.860 know, she's a bit of a rock star. We're also having an event in Toronto in a few weeks, and I'm sure
00:01:37.460 you've seen our emails about these events, so hopefully you can come if you want to come, and
00:01:43.180 this isn't news that you're only hearing about for the first time now. I just want to tell you a few of
00:01:47.720 my thoughts on being 10, or I guess we're more like 10 and a half now. It all started with the
00:01:52.820 shuttering of Sun News Network, which was a real TV station regulated by the CRTC, funded by a big
00:02:00.720 regime media company called Quebecor. It was amazing because Quebecor, as it sounds like, was based in
00:02:06.860 Quebec, and they are very much the establishment, especially out there. Like, they really dominate
00:02:11.900 the landscape there, and the owner himself, Pierre-Carl Pelletot, a billionaire. It was always a miracle in my
00:02:18.720 mind that such a person, who is a separatist also, by the way, he briefly was the leader of the Parti
00:02:24.940 Quebecois, if I'm not mistaken. He supported an English-speaking, pro-Western Canada, pro-freedom,
00:02:31.820 pro-conservative news station. I mean, they hired me, for heaven's sakes. So that was an amazing job,
00:02:38.240 and it required me to move out to Toronto. I've sort of been stuck out here ever since, but
00:02:43.280 unfortunately, it was killed by the aforementioned CRTC. That's the government TV regulator in Canada,
00:02:50.400 and even though Stephen Harper was prime minister at the time, he refused to intervene to save it,
00:02:55.580 and I'll always rank that as one of Harper's big mistakes. It didn't need a subsidy. It didn't need
00:03:01.900 a handout from the government. It just needed to be put on the same regulatory footing as its
00:03:07.260 competitors, including CBC Newsworld and CTV News Channel. And I think that the fact that Stephen
00:03:13.820 Harper allowed his CRTC to kill Sun News just really months before the 2015 election is one of the
00:03:22.440 reasons he lost that election, and one of the reasons why Canada is such a leftist place to this
00:03:26.960 day. Had he simply demanded that his appointees on the CRTC have a level playing field, I think Sun News
00:03:34.100 would be there right now, and frankly, I think it would be the biggest news channel in Canada.
00:03:38.040 Just like Fox News, when it debuted, people laughed at it. Yeah, they're not laughing anymore. It's by
00:03:42.860 far the largest news channel in the United States. So that's where we all came from. You might recall
00:03:48.700 that when we were shut down, I invited a team that worked on my show to come to my house, and we
00:03:54.200 did our very first video. Here's a quick clip from that. We won't show you the whole thing, and me
00:03:58.860 in my living room saying, we're gonna try on YouTube. Remember that?
00:04:04.860 I'm Ezra Levant. Welcome to... Whoa, I was gonna say welcome to the source, but that's gone now. The TV show
00:04:10.700 that I love so much is gone, as is the whole Sun News Network. We were always a dissident network, a network
00:04:16.100 of rebels. I'm not even coming at you from the Sun Studios in downtown Toronto. I'm in a secure, undisclosed
00:04:22.220 location. I'm kidding. I'm just at home in my living room. I wanted to take a show right away, though, and I
00:04:27.200 haven't had time to get new office space yet. Later on, I'll tell you a little bit about my
00:04:31.080 plans for what's next, and I hope you'll be a part of those plans. But let me spend
00:04:35.540 another moment on the Sun News Network. It was the best job I've ever had. I'm deeply
00:04:41.440 sorry it's gone, and judging from the hundreds of emails, actually more than a
00:04:45.280 thousand and thousands of comments on Twitter and Facebook, a lot of you are
00:04:50.160 sorry that we're gone, too. But why? Why would anyone care? I mean, there are hundreds of channels
00:04:55.200 on your TV dial, and a million different channels on YouTube and other TV-based
00:04:59.200 internet. Why would anybody care so passionately about an obscure all-news
00:05:03.260 network on channel a million that hadn't even been around for four full years?
00:05:08.380 Newspapers and magazines shut down almost every week, and other than the immediate
00:05:12.720 concern of those people who are without jobs, nobody cares. Why did so many thousands
00:05:18.300 of people care about this? And why did so many rival media rejoice over our demise? I mean, seriously,
00:05:25.020 page four of today's Toronto Star, a half-page rejoicing over our shutting down. Isn't that
00:05:31.100 weird? Literally every other news channel in the country made a big hullabaloo about it.
00:05:36.480 Sun News Network is off the air. Why do you think it didn't get an audience?
00:05:40.880 It was a lot of yelling back and forth and a certain mode of expression.
00:05:47.280 Its downfall may have been its combative approach that failed to resonate with Canadians.
00:05:51.700 The station attracted its share of controversy, but it couldn't attract the audience share it needed
00:05:56.880 to survive. Now, I must acknowledge not all of the reports were as sneering as the Toronto Star,
00:06:03.260 but they were quite disproportionate to our tiny size. Why would a tiny little network have such a big
00:06:08.240 presence in the national conversation? I mean, just Google the phrase Sun News Network. More than
00:06:13.840 1.2 million search results. So what's the big deal? Well, it's because we were contrarian,
00:06:19.440 not just in our style, but in our values. For example, we deeply believed in freedom of speech
00:06:24.500 and freedom of religion.
00:06:26.120 I knew we would one day no longer be in my living room if for no other reason than my wife would kick
00:06:31.740 us out. So I knew we were starting. Really, there was nowhere to go but up. And here we are 10 and a
00:06:37.320 half years later, and it's been quite an adventure. And in those early days, I would say for the first
00:06:42.240 year, we really didn't have any haters amongst the regime media or amongst the left. It's hard to
00:06:49.280 believe. I think that Paul Wells, who was then with Maclean's magazine, consummate insider, like
00:06:54.780 basically deputy of the media party, he actually sort of said, go get them, you guys. Like there
00:07:00.080 was a feeling when we deployed our new news channel on YouTube, because no one else in Canada was doing
00:07:07.120 that. There were a couple of American outlets trying it. One was called The Young Turks with
00:07:12.240 St. Uyghur. Like it was, you could count on one hand's fingers the number of YouTube-based news
00:07:19.080 channels. We were amongst the first and certainly the first in Canada. So people sort of chuckled,
00:07:23.760 oh, you go, you get them. It was like we were at the kids' table and we were kicked out of the
00:07:29.880 grown-ups' table. And so, oh yeah, you kids, you're doing great there, Rebel News. You're doing great.
00:07:35.560 And there wasn't hatred because we were not relevant. We were an amusement. We were a curiosity.
00:07:41.460 And I felt that. I felt slightly inferior. And so I was always checking statistics and I made the
00:07:51.260 mistake one day of publishing our traffic stats. And I remember that they were bigger when I published
00:07:58.560 them than the National Post. And I went through and I showed how we were bigger than so many regime
00:08:03.620 media. And I think I shouldn't have done that. It was, I suppose, boastfulness on my part. I was trying
00:08:09.460 to prove that we were real, that we were relevant, that we were legit. But why did I have to prove
00:08:13.320 that to anyone other than our own viewers? And I think members of the media party were shocked
00:08:19.020 and they said, oh my God, they're not at the kids' table anymore. Or they are at some other table,
00:08:24.740 but it's suddenly way bigger than the grown-ups' table we ejected them from. We got big.
00:08:32.420 And immediately the tone completely changed because they realized
00:08:36.080 their industry was more and more in trouble because of online-based competitors. And that was
00:08:43.020 around the same time that newspapers really, the acceleration of their deterioration happened,
00:08:48.440 as well as the deterioration of regular TV, all of it being devoured by the internet,
00:08:53.700 little guys like us. So the attacks on us began immediately. And survival has been a theme of ours
00:09:02.320 for 10 years. Not just surviving like anyone else in business. You have to pay the bills. You have to
00:09:08.780 pay the rent. You have to bring in more than you spend. That's regular survival for a business. But
00:09:14.560 we had to deal with attacks. That's not normal. When was the last time you saw CBC really attack
00:09:21.480 CTV or really attack global? Never. Because they're all peas in a pod. They're all, as the Brits would say,
00:09:29.660 two cheeks of the same ours. Tweedledee and Tweedledum. They're very interchangeable. In fact,
00:09:34.760 you see journalists come and go amongst them all the time. It's a collective. It's a clique,
00:09:40.920 as I say, in the media party. But their rage towards Rebel News was white hot.
00:09:47.300 We have been attacked. I think being attacked and surviving has been a major theme of ours over the
00:09:52.180 last 10 years. So we're attacked physically. I'd say over the course of time, half a dozen of our
00:09:56.960 reporters have been physically attacked, including, I hate to say, by police. We're attacked legally,
00:10:03.640 either by being banned from places that we have to go to court to overcome, like the leaders' debates,
00:10:08.380 or nuisance suits. We have about four of that coming in, people just trying to slap us, strategic
00:10:14.040 litigation against public participation, and deplatforming. There was a moment in time,
00:10:20.620 now it's thankfully in the past, but in 2017, when there was a real push to literally kick us off
00:10:27.600 the internet in shocking ways. And for many years, YouTube completely demonetized us. They never had
00:10:34.780 the courage to actually shut us down, but they completely turned off the tap for ads and even
00:10:40.000 super chats for many years that only ended after Donald Trump's second inauguration.
00:10:44.940 But the original shunning, the looking down their nose at us, has continued the whole time.
00:10:51.940 That's that psychological poking that perhaps I reacted to by boasting of our size nine years ago.
00:10:58.980 But the mean girls shun a lot of people, I've learned. They look down their nose at the truckers,
00:11:05.880 at farmers, including farmers in the Netherlands. I learned that this snootiness, this meanness,
00:11:12.400 this classism, was in a lot of places, including in the United Kingdom, where British patriots were
00:11:19.280 against a very powerful establishment, and classism is a big factor there. In the last year and a half,
00:11:25.320 I've seen how Irish patriots have been looked down on by the mean girls. So it's an interesting thing
00:11:31.720 of different strata of society, and I would call it classism, look down on a citizen journalist
00:11:38.740 and anyone who doesn't want to get their news from a state broadcaster. That's something else I've
00:11:43.220 learned over the years. What's the similarity between Canada and the UK and Ireland? Each of our
00:11:49.760 three countries have a very powerful, well-funded state broadcaster that despises anything from the
00:11:57.520 grassroots people. I mean, as Hillary Clinton would call us, the deplorables. Despite all that,
00:12:04.080 we've grown. I don't have the latest statistics of our audience. I honestly stopped counting once we
00:12:11.020 hit two billion views. I mean, does it really matter to you if we have four billion views or
00:12:16.480 six billion views? I suppose I should try and tabulate it just so I can report it to you, but
00:12:21.400 you probably know that we are quite well known. I feel it when I'm on the streets and people say hi to
00:12:26.980 me, even in foreign countries. We've grown geographically, not just across Canada, where we have Alexa
00:12:33.320 Lavoie in Montreal offices along the way, including out west where Drea Humphrey is our BC bureau chief.
00:12:40.860 We have Avi Yamini in Melbourne, Australia, and he's done such a great job there. I call him a one-man
00:12:45.980 army. And we're always going to the UK because I call it their dystopian time machine. We have a new
00:12:51.640 freelance reporter there now too, Emma Dunwell. Over the years, we've sort of altered and changed and
00:12:57.720 tried out different ways of doing journalism. One of the things we've focused on, I think, is
00:13:02.880 on location news video, as opposed to being in studio. Now you're thinking, Ezra, you're in the
00:13:09.700 studio right now. You're just giving your opinions right now. It's true. Every day I have the Ezra
00:13:14.700 LeBanc show and Sheila Gunn-Reed has it on a weekly basis. But if you look at our most popular work,
00:13:20.440 if you look at the work that I think really defines us, it's when we are in the field.
00:13:24.240 I think the perfect example of that, and to this day, I think it remains our most viewed video of
00:13:32.560 all time on different platforms. It's when we were at Davos, Switzerland, doing real on the ground TV
00:13:40.000 reporting. We were locked out of the inner sanctum, but we were on the streets of Davos. We were hunting
00:13:46.540 for Klaus Schwab. And instead, we came upon Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer. And it just so happened
00:13:54.560 we spotted him when Avi and I were together there with each of our cameramen. So we had four people
00:13:59.780 and we, it was thrilling. It's not very long. I'm just going to play it for you because I love
00:14:04.000 watching it. Take a look. Mr. Bourla, can I ask you, when did you know that the vaccines didn't stop
00:14:10.040 transmission? How long did you know that without saying it publicly? Thank you very much. I'm sorry.
00:14:15.580 I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission, but why did you keep it secret?
00:14:24.500 You said it was 100% effective, then 90%, then 80%, then 70%. But we now know that the vaccines do not
00:14:31.960 stop transmission. Why did you keep that secret? Have a nice day. I won't have a nice day until I know
00:14:38.760 the answer. Why did you keep it a secret that your vaccine did not stop transmission?
00:14:46.680 Is it time to apologize to the world, sir, to give refunds back to the countries that
00:14:51.440 poured all their money into your vaccine that doesn't work, your ineffective vaccine?
00:14:55.940 Yeah, you have a little bit of a ring.
00:14:57.640 Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple of years?
00:15:00.440 Do you have any apologies to the public, sir?
00:15:02.320 That's it.
00:15:04.060 Are you proud of it? You've made millions on the backs of people's entire livelihoods.
00:15:11.020 How does that feel to walk the streets as a millionaire on the backs of the regular person
00:15:16.320 at home in Australia, in England, in Canada?
00:15:19.480 What do you think about on your yacht, sir? What do you think about on your private jet?
00:15:24.260 Are you worried about product liability? Are you worried about myocarditis?
00:15:28.520 What about the sudden deaths?
00:15:33.440 What do you have to say about young men dropping dead of heart attacks every day?
00:15:40.480 Why won't you answer these basic questions?
00:15:46.320 No apologies, sir.
00:15:47.740 Do you think you should be charged criminally for some of the criminal behavior you've
00:15:54.000 obviously been a part of?
00:15:57.000 How much money have you personally made off the vaccine?
00:16:01.180 How many boosters do you think it'll take for you to be happy enough with your earnings?
00:16:09.800 Nothing?
00:16:11.240 Who did you meet with here in secret?
00:16:14.020 Will you disclose who you met with?
00:16:18.380 Who did you pay commissions to?
00:16:20.240 In the past, Pfizer has paid $2.3 billion in fines for deceptive marketing.
00:16:27.260 Have you engaged in that same conduct again?
00:16:33.300 Are you under investigation like you were before for your deceptive marketing, sir?
00:16:41.160 If any other product in the world doesn't work, as promised, you get a refund.
00:16:45.960 Should you not refund to countries that laid out billions for your ineffective vaccine?
00:16:54.100 Are you used to only sympathetic media so you don't know how to answer any questions?
00:17:00.240 There's so many things about that.
00:17:02.360 The fact that we were contrarian on COVID-19 and we were willing to ask challenging questions
00:17:08.520 of an oligarch, a powerful man, something that CBC, CTV, Global News, and even some independent
00:17:14.660 media didn't have the courage to do.
00:17:16.480 The fact that we had taken the entrepreneurial risk to go all the way to Davos on spec, on
00:17:24.020 our own dime, crowdfunded by our viewers, that's a very rebel thing to do.
00:17:28.000 And the fact that we had our stuff, we had our facts in hand.
00:17:32.280 And I don't think Albert Brula has ever had that happen to him before or since.
00:17:37.960 As you know, last year we got Larry Fink from BlackRock.
00:17:41.340 So our specialty is on the scene video.
00:17:44.280 And there's another thing that is so rebel.
00:17:48.000 And that's activism.
00:17:49.420 What I mean by that is every once in a while you see something in the news just so awful.
00:17:53.000 And you got to do something about it.
00:17:55.260 It's not enough just to look at it.
00:17:56.960 Not enough just to be a rubberneck, you know, driving by a traffic accident.
00:18:01.260 Sometimes you got to get out of your car and help.
00:18:03.420 And I think Rebel News does that.
00:18:04.980 And I think that's one of the reasons people love us, if I may say so.
00:18:09.360 During the pandemic, I already talked about that, how we came not only morally to the aid
00:18:14.600 of people, but we actually helped them.
00:18:16.500 Same with the truckers.
00:18:17.940 We helped so many people that we actually worked with a new charity that we helped.
00:18:23.480 Boost called the Democracy Fund, which, as you know, has taken 3,000 cases of ordinary
00:18:29.620 people that were hit with Arrive Can app fines and things like that.
00:18:33.500 More recently, we've taken on the case of the Amish in Ontario.
00:18:36.820 It's a crazy story that the Amish were fined and that their farms had liens put on them
00:18:41.860 by Doug Ford because they didn't fill out the Arrive Can app.
00:18:44.920 As you know, the Amish don't use smartphones.
00:18:47.220 But shouldn't you do something about it?
00:18:49.460 You know a deep injustice is happening, but shouldn't you do something?
00:18:53.800 And that's what Rebel News specializes in.
00:18:56.480 It's what we love to do.
00:18:57.920 It's one of the reasons we were part of the massive Tommy Robinson rally in the UK on Saturday.
00:19:04.140 It's sort of unusual when you think about it, but Rebel News, based here in Canada,
00:19:08.080 took the lead in crowdfunding Tommy Robinson's legal defense for many years.
00:19:12.440 Now, luckily, Elon Musk has started to help with different parts of Tommy's legal defense.
00:19:18.020 And boy, I'm glad.
00:19:20.560 I mean, that'll really change the balance of power there.
00:19:23.600 But until that miracle happened, it was Rebel News.
00:19:26.640 And we can still continue to take a keen interest in him.
00:19:30.320 And I think that some of his success is because our viewers were willing to help him get out of a pickle
00:19:37.100 from time to time.
00:19:39.120 So 10 years, what's our future going to be like?
00:19:42.640 Well, I can't quite predict.
00:19:44.220 We can make plans.
00:19:45.480 But as the Yiddish saying goes,
00:19:49.000 men tracht un gott lacht, which means men can plan, but God laughs.
00:19:53.620 I don't know exactly what the future will hold.
00:19:56.060 No one could have seen the pandemic coming, and that utterly changed our company in many ways.
00:20:02.680 I think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk is going to have a larger impact around the world than we think.
00:20:09.560 I think it's going to shine a light on violence and political violence.
00:20:13.320 And hopefully, it'll also stop the Canadian government in time from funding political violence,
00:20:19.920 which they do.
00:20:20.800 Our next guest today will talk about that.
00:20:23.040 But if I had to say what the great battle ahead is, it's going to be censorship.
00:20:30.420 It always is.
00:20:31.400 And I think that Mark Carney presents a terrifying new force for censorship.
00:20:38.180 He isn't as hated yet as Justin Trudeau.
00:20:42.040 The media aren't even pretending to be critical of him.
00:20:45.500 And I think that he wants to prove himself to be anti-American and un-American so badly
00:20:51.920 that he will, I think, plunge ahead in censorship,
00:20:56.240 even though he'll be censoring U.S. social media platforms.
00:21:00.180 We'll see how that goes.
00:21:01.380 It's a worry of mine.
00:21:02.380 I cannot predict how that's going to go.
00:21:04.640 But in Canada, censorship and thought crimes are always in fashion.
00:21:07.920 But in the meantime, we'll keep telling you the news, the other side of the story.
00:21:14.020 It's what we started doing when we were born 10 years ago.
00:21:17.000 It's what we've done despite the constant onslaught by our critics, both peaceful and violent.
00:21:23.860 And it's the reason that we've managed to survive without a great benefactor like Elon Musk,
00:21:30.220 who we admire very much.
00:21:31.540 But there's something to it being completely crowdfunded,
00:21:34.800 something that was very novel when we started 10 years ago,
00:21:37.720 but something that's more commonplace now.
00:21:39.420 In fact, I think Rebel News helped normalize it.
00:21:42.760 The fact that there's no single donor out there who gives us even 1% of our income
00:21:49.280 means that we are beholden not to any special interest or single person,
00:21:54.640 but to our ordinary viewers, the average crowdfunding donation of which is $58.
00:22:00.480 I care about all of our viewers, whether they donate nothing, $58 or $5,800,
00:22:07.300 but I know that we have been able to follow our conscience and follow our hearts
00:22:11.240 because we're not owned by some external force.
00:22:15.080 And hopefully that shows.
00:22:16.540 And hopefully that's one of the reasons why you trust us and have supported us all these years.
00:22:21.180 If you're in Calgary, I'll see you tonight at the Carriage House.
00:22:23.900 If you're in Toronto, you can find more about our birthday bash online.
00:22:27.040 And 10 years, you know, I've lost a lot of hair and what hair I have remaining is gray,
00:22:32.720 but it's been a wonderful adventure.
00:22:34.240 And thank you for being an important part of it.
00:22:36.880 Stay with us.
00:22:38.320 Karima Saad about violent politics next.
00:22:41.460 Well, one of Donald Trump's early executive orders was to declare
00:22:54.360 that the drug cartels that are responsible for bringing so much mayhem to American cities,
00:23:01.900 these drug cartels would be classified under the Department of Homeland Security
00:23:06.640 as terrorist groups, which would be a legal change for them.
00:23:10.840 They wouldn't be treated like criminals so much.
00:23:13.320 There would be, there's a special legal category for terrorists similar to that of pirates.
00:23:18.260 Basically, they're outside the law and you could shoot them on site, deal with them like a terrorist.
00:23:23.980 In recent weeks, Donald Trump has indeed started doing that.
00:23:26.860 It's very interesting.
00:23:28.540 And it seems to be all completely legal, despite friends of the cartels objecting.
00:23:35.140 Yesterday, Donald Trump mused that he will quite shortly declare that Antifa is a terrorist group,
00:23:42.800 which I think is literally its definition.
00:23:46.400 There may be some problems with doing this in that Antifa is disaggregated.
00:23:51.700 Antifa is in some ways like ISIS.
00:23:56.100 I mean, there's lots of rogue cells and rogue actors.
00:24:00.540 It'll be interesting to see how that is outlined in any executive order or order by the Department of Homeland Security.
00:24:08.700 But I'll tell you this, you can see already Antifa thugs on the ground who know exactly who they are,
00:24:14.560 who are now a little bit worried that they won't be dealing with Democrat-run local cities and their defunded police,
00:24:21.100 but rather the strong arm of Donald Trump.
00:24:23.880 But much more important than these street thugs, the financiers of Antifa must be panicking,
00:24:30.120 because the only thing worse than being a terrorist is being a financier of terrorism.
00:24:34.800 And we know historically that George Soros and other leftist billionaires have indeed funded Antifa
00:24:40.140 as the street teams, the violent street gangs, enforcing the narratives and the viewpoints of the left.
00:24:48.900 We have Antifa in Canada, I think, if I had to say where it's strongest, I would probably say Montreal.
00:24:55.500 And again, with the cooperation and toleration of the police, it's somewhat active in Toronto and Ottawa, our nation's capital.
00:25:02.940 You don't see much of it in the West. There's some of it in Vancouver.
00:25:06.920 But there is some in Toronto.
00:25:08.740 And on the weekend, they made their fangs scene.
00:25:13.420 Joining us now to talk about what happened on Saturday in Toronto is Karima Saad,
00:25:18.840 a lawyer and independent journalist, a member of the Independent Press Gallery,
00:25:22.580 who joins us now via Zoom. Karima, great to see you. How are you?
00:25:26.300 Good, thanks. Thanks for having me.
00:25:27.660 Good. It's a pleasure to have you. You're always out there on the street.
00:25:30.880 You and your cameraman seem to have a nose for news.
00:25:34.040 You just know where things are going to be.
00:25:35.780 And that place on Saturday was a place in Toronto called Christy Pits.
00:25:41.580 Why don't you tell my viewers a little bit about the history of Christy Pits and what happened there on Saturday?
00:25:47.900 So it's a public park that itself is a historically significant backdrop because in 1933, a riot broke out that was essentially it happened during a baseball game.
00:26:02.480 And there were Jewish and Italian immigrants fighting with members of swastika clubs.
00:26:10.280 And it was an hours long brawl. Police were heavily criticized for not doing much to prevent it, despite prior warning.
00:26:19.700 And since then, Christy Pits has sort of carried that legacy, which has been, let's say, the imagery from it has been drawn on by local Antifa groups.
00:26:37.000 And with the Christy Pits hardball league, it's three baseball bats pointing downwards in the same style as an Antifa arrow.
00:26:48.060 And, you know, that's sort of the backdrop to what happened on Saturday, which was a rally held by Canada First, an anti-mass immigration rally.
00:26:59.220 And in response to that, different groups planned counter protests, including Antifa counter protesters.
00:27:07.200 Now, did it get violent?
00:27:09.760 Were there baseball bats that were wielded?
00:27:13.500 I did not see any baseball bats.
00:27:15.320 You know, in the weeks leading up to the event, there were stickers indicating BYOB.
00:27:24.540 It seems there were no B's to bring.
00:27:27.620 So I thankfully no violence of that nature.
00:27:30.720 But there was nonetheless verbal and physical assaults.
00:27:37.000 The Canada First group was outnumbered by a large margin, and they were encircled by counter protesters.
00:27:46.640 When they then moved to leave the park, some counter protesters followed them down the street, down side streets, pushing, shoving, blocking, things of that nature.
00:27:58.500 You know, it looks like police were fairly numerous.
00:28:02.860 They had bike helmets, not ride helmets so much.
00:28:06.180 It looks like they didn't let things get too out of hand.
00:28:08.920 I'm going to say, if someone started swinging a baseball bat at people, I think the police would have been there very quickly.
00:28:14.600 Because that would be a very assault with a weapon, aggravated assault.
00:28:18.980 You start hitting people with baseball bats, you could kill them or grievously injure them.
00:28:23.540 It doesn't quite look like it got that bad.
00:28:25.740 Am I correct?
00:28:26.780 I would agree with that.
00:28:27.980 And in fact, I would say that there was a relatively short period of time where police didn't have a good handle on the situation, maybe 10 minutes or so going down Bloor Street.
00:28:39.720 For the rest, police maintained a visible presence and more proactive than I've seen at other rallies in the past.
00:28:49.680 The one point of criticism I might raise is, unlike other events where counter-protesters and protesters are separated by barricades or are prevented from intermingling, that didn't happen here.
00:29:04.240 Now, you go to, as I mentioned at the top, you go to so many street events, some are one-sided protests, a few of them are, as you mentioned, protesters, generally separated by some physical barrier and by police.
00:29:17.360 Is Antifa a real threat?
00:29:23.360 Do you, I mean, you go to so many of these protests or rallies, do you recognize the same people?
00:29:28.820 Do you recognize an Antifa boss or organizer?
00:29:32.360 Minister, I know you criticize the so-called Canadian anti-hate network, which is actually funded by the Trudeau government and now the Kearney government.
00:29:39.820 Is Antifa a real force in the greater Toronto area, for example?
00:29:45.600 There is most definitely a movement that exists.
00:29:49.060 I don't know that there is a leader as such.
00:29:52.300 I think that they try to organize in a more flat structure, although there are people who have positions of maybe informally, but who are the organizers and so forth.
00:30:09.080 And to your point, it's often, you know, there's repetition in the characters who appear at different events, different parts of the city for different reasons.
00:30:20.160 And that's part of what drew me into wanting to document Ontario's protest subculture, trying to understand how and why that is.
00:30:30.800 So there is a real presence, you know, and my general experience, I would say at most protests is that most people are there in good faith.
00:30:42.040 And it's the ones who have ulterior purposes, including the opportunity to hijack social justice causes or righteous anger for their own sort of personal ends, whether that's just catharsis, the sake of harassment for its own sake or whatever the case may be.
00:31:06.700 But it is here, it is real, and as far as the Canadian Anti-Hate Network is concerned, there is an Ontario court ruling that confirms that Khan has assisted the Antifa movement, which has been violent.
00:31:23.140 And there are individual players who can be connected to that organization, although I do note that Khan keeps its activists at arm's length.
00:31:34.900 You know, one of the things that, I remember the first time I really encountered Antifa, and it was over a decade ago, it was actually during the Occupy Wall Street movement, which there was an echo encampment in Toronto, even though no Canadian banks fell.
00:31:51.900 It was a movement basically that said, look, all these big banks are failing, they're getting bailed out, what about the rest of us?
00:31:58.720 And there is a compelling logic there, but that wasn't a Canadian story, Canada actually weathered that crisis, but they had an encampment and I went down there, and I sort of poked around and they had an encampment, but actually no one was staying there.
00:32:13.720 Like, it was more sort of theatre, and I got to know, not in a friendly way, but I got to, I started to recognise some of the leaders.
00:32:22.900 I have to say, here, let me just throw to a clip, and this is from when I was at the Sun News Network, of what it was like, street encampment protests.
00:32:31.040 I'm guessing this was more than 15 years ago. Here, take a look, about 15 years ago, take a look.
00:32:37.560 Did you vote in the last election?
00:32:38.920 I did, the federal election?
00:32:40.180 How about the provincial election?
00:32:42.020 I missed that, I was working.
00:32:43.140 Okay, whereabouts were you working?
00:32:44.860 Landscaped.
00:32:45.420 Yeah, alright.
00:32:46.360 They didn't give you the time off to vote, it just wasn't that important?
00:32:48.300 Under the table, unfortunately, there was nobody I wanted to vote for in the provincial election, I seriously mean that?
00:32:53.020 But listen, how can you come here and talk if you're not going to vote?
00:32:56.560 Well, that's what they say, but you can't kill people, you can't, no, you can't kill people.
00:33:01.460 You can't kill people in the voting.
00:33:03.280 Car, table, how are you doing?
00:33:07.300 What's up, how are you doing?
00:33:08.720 Why didn't I vote?
00:33:09.640 Because they weren't talking about renters issues.
00:33:11.680 50% of GTA is renters, and rent is going up and nobody can afford to live.
00:33:18.060 Maybe you did get a little action.
00:33:19.580 Well, I don't know.
00:33:20.740 Did you sleep in your bed last night?
00:33:22.640 Did you sleep in a tent last night?
00:33:23.680 Did you sleep here tonight?
00:33:24.900 I did, I haven't left this park except for the protest since I got here on Saturday.
00:33:28.080 Where did you live, uh, where did you live before you came here?
00:33:30.780 Where do you live?
00:33:31.700 I live, uh, just on, uh, where did you live?
00:33:35.080 So yeah, yeah, go sleep in a tent, come sleep out here with us tonight.
00:33:37.720 That sounds sort of gross.
00:33:38.880 Yeah, there you go, it is, but that's the point.
00:33:41.040 We've got a good tent.
00:33:41.820 One of the big differences, I think, is the masks.
00:33:46.320 I think COVID-19 normalized wearing masks, and I think when, when protesters or protesters
00:33:53.200 who want to get into some fisticuffs wear masks, it gives them some courage because they
00:33:58.680 feel anonymous and they can get away with things sometimes.
00:34:01.520 It adds a bit of a menace to it.
00:34:03.640 Um, do you have any thoughts about mask wearing at protests, especially where violence is
00:34:10.140 in the air?
00:34:11.780 Well, at the outset, I would note that, uh, activists are encouraged to wear masks.
00:34:17.440 And so that is part of their strategic or tactical planning, um, how they advertise themselves
00:34:24.660 to their followers.
00:34:25.820 Um, and, you know, the, the rationale varies from COVID-19 justifications, um, even today
00:34:35.060 in, in 2025, um, to, it will help conceal your identity from being doxed or from law enforcement.
00:34:43.320 So there is an understanding that, um, one might conceal their identity from police.
00:34:49.060 Um, and it's a, it's a huge factor, I think, in a lot of the protests I attend, um, for the
00:34:57.900 reasons you've identified.
00:34:58.820 It emboldens people, um, and it, it, it makes it difficult for whether it's pedestrians passing
00:35:06.600 by or demonstrators who are there in opposition, um, to identify, um, if something does happen
00:35:14.940 to them, you know, who did it or like what, what exactly took place.
00:35:19.860 Um, so, so that is a, uh, an element of, uh, of what complicates, um, things on the ground.
00:35:27.980 Yeah, I think you're right.
00:35:28.880 I mean, the whole black block look head to toe in black, no, uh, distinguishing characteristics.
00:35:35.020 Um, it, it's an expressly a tactic to avoid accountability.
00:35:39.140 Let me close by asking you what you make of Donald Trump's post.
00:35:42.360 Now, as far as I have seen, there is no executive order yet.
00:35:45.660 I can understand how calling the cartels, terrorist groups could be done.
00:35:51.040 They, they're a cohesive team.
00:35:52.440 They have a cohesive purpose.
00:35:53.640 They're in a geographical area and they do a particular thing, smuggle drugs.
00:35:58.180 Um, I can understand, I mean, whether or not you would agree with that, I can see how
00:36:02.580 that could be affected.
00:36:04.340 How likely is it that an, an order can be drafted to go after quote Antifa?
00:36:10.140 Uh, uh, would they just change their name?
00:36:13.180 I don't, you know, would they just change their affiliation?
00:36:16.820 Um, how likely is it that Trump will be able to actually achieve what he sets out to do?
00:36:22.560 Well, firstly, I, I believe he tried to make a similar statement or proclamation back in
00:36:28.440 2020, uh, and that didn't really land anywhere.
00:36:31.600 And I think that's in large part due to the first amendment.
00:36:35.760 So the U S has a different legal landscape entirely.
00:36:39.760 Um, and the first amendment and its broad protections, um, really, uh, preclude domestic
00:36:48.000 organizations from being declared, uh, illegal per se.
00:36:53.220 Um, in, in, in my view, you know, there are enough tools in the toolkit, um, that can be
00:37:01.440 used and deployed to address the criminal element because it is such a nebulous movement, the
00:37:08.740 Antifa movement.
00:37:09.920 Um, there is a risk that people who are, you know, uh, innocent or simply adhering to beliefs
00:37:18.740 or ideology without the, without any corresponding, um, criminality or violence, um, be caught up
00:37:26.040 in that.
00:37:26.400 Right.
00:37:26.660 So I, I understand the apprehension, um, there, uh, I think it's going to be a very difficult
00:37:32.900 undertaking, maybe to the extent that there is, uh, foreign participation, but that's not
00:37:39.220 really, uh, my understanding of, of how the movement works.
00:37:42.340 So I'm not overly holding my breath, but if this does mean, um, perhaps more conspiracy
00:37:49.120 or RICO charges, um, even at the federal level, um, that is something that, uh, is, is within
00:37:56.660 the realm of possibility as well.
00:37:58.960 You know, I think you're right.
00:38:00.220 First of all, the American first amendment really does protect a lot of speech, including
00:38:04.700 speech that you and I might find offensive, but it's the, it's the activities, it's the criminal
00:38:09.900 activities that I think are concerning people.
00:38:12.580 And it's true that many U S cities, particularly, I mean, I, I spent a little bit of time in
00:38:17.120 Portland.
00:38:17.700 The city is basically conceded the streets to Antifa.
00:38:22.480 And I, I don't know if you remember the Chaz, the, uh, autonomous zone that Antifa had carved
00:38:28.060 out.
00:38:28.360 I think it was in Seattle.
00:38:29.860 Like I, there are laws on the books to deal with that.
00:38:33.120 Now they just lack the will from either the police force, the city politicians, or the attorney,
00:38:38.260 the district attorney there.
00:38:39.420 I think there may be more regular and routine solutions that don't involve banning entire
00:38:45.880 groups.
00:38:46.200 I think you're probably right on that.
00:38:48.000 Uh, it'll be interesting to see how this goes.
00:38:50.520 I think it may be an attempt to go after the moneyed financiers.
00:38:56.140 It wouldn't surprise me if, if, uh, this was really about people like George Soros being
00:39:01.240 put on the back foot.
00:39:02.520 We'll have to keep watching and Kareem, I want to thank you.
00:39:05.360 I'm, I'm an avid follower of your Twitter account.
00:39:08.200 Now what's your Twitter account just to tell people in case they're not always already
00:39:11.320 following it.
00:39:12.520 You can find me at Karima rules.
00:39:14.660 And if that's hard to spell, um, it's at the bottom of the screen, but, uh, Google sad
00:39:19.540 lawyer Toronto, and you will find me.
00:39:21.800 Great.
00:39:22.300 Well, listen, thanks so much for being with us.
00:39:23.940 And I have to say you're quite courageous on the streets because, um, some of these protesters
00:39:29.300 don't like you shining a spotlight on them.
00:39:32.060 And I know that you and your cameraman have been physically accosted.
00:39:35.380 You've been verbally threatened.
00:39:36.700 And I think you've been actually assaulted a few times too.
00:39:40.140 And police don't really seem to be motivated to protect you.
00:39:42.920 So stay safe out there.
00:39:44.660 And thanks for coming on the show.
00:39:46.440 Thanks for having me.
00:39:47.580 All right.
00:39:47.780 There you have it.
00:39:48.340 Karima sad.
00:39:50.240 And, uh, I really encourage you to follow her at Karima spelled C A R Y M A.
00:39:55.560 Karima rules on X.
00:39:57.280 Stay with us more ahead.
00:39:58.500 Hey, welcome back.
00:40:08.440 Your letters to me on immigration numbers being revealed in the order paper question.
00:40:14.400 Northern light says the damage is permanent.
00:40:16.180 Too bad.
00:40:16.540 The simple minded citizens didn't catch on in time.
00:40:19.500 Well, part of that is the job of the opposition and the conservative party has been pro immigration
00:40:24.420 forever.
00:40:25.360 Maxime Bernier rang the alarm about immigration, but he was never in a place for that alarm
00:40:29.980 to be heard.
00:40:31.060 One of my deep regrets about Maxime Bernier is he never fought to get into the leaders
00:40:36.100 debates.
00:40:36.620 I think this last leaders debate would not have been his moment, but the 2021 leaders debate
00:40:42.900 in the height of the pandemic, if he had sued to get in there and we did, I don't know
00:40:49.820 why he didn't.
00:40:51.140 Perhaps he could have not only spoken against the lockdown, but talked about immigration.
00:40:55.360 Alas, we'll never know how that alternative history would have gone.
00:40:59.340 Fahim Shah says conservatives should force government to disclose the number of individuals
00:41:03.700 in Canada with expired visas.
00:41:05.800 That's a fascinating point.
00:41:07.340 It's something I didn't get into when I went through that order paper question.
00:41:10.920 The government doesn't even track it.
00:41:12.780 They don't even track people who are supposed to leave, but don't.
00:41:16.220 Jason Dean says exactly the same all over Europe and England.
00:41:19.380 So I wonder who is telling all the governments to allow this.
00:41:22.400 That's a good point.
00:41:23.160 One answer, and it's not a conspiracy theory, it's a real answer, is George Soros.
00:41:27.080 His open society foundations massively fund mass immigration to the West.
00:41:32.440 It's a top issue and it's one we'll continue to cover.
00:41:36.120 That's our show for today.
00:41:37.540 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Hack Warriors, to you at home,
00:41:41.700 good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:41:43.840 I don't have tens of millions of dollars to start a new TV station.
00:41:53.900 I don't have political connections at the CRTC.
00:41:56.660 I don't have a billion dollars a year in corporate welfare bailouts.
00:42:00.060 So what can I do?
00:42:01.760 It was captured on video by Rebel News.
00:42:04.160 Founded by Ezra Levant.
00:42:06.400 So you're the rebel media.
00:42:07.700 The men's of Rebel News was arrested yesterday.
00:42:09.820 They can only ask me to leave if I've broken the law.
00:42:13.700 Mr. Tedros, how are you?
00:42:15.180 How are you, Mr. Tedros?
00:42:16.360 The riot police ready to intervene.
00:42:19.540 They'll tell you that the fight is not over.
00:42:21.280 Their fight is not done yet.
00:42:23.020 They're burning churches and vandalizing them and you're not calling it a hate crime.
00:42:27.320 Do you think that you should be subject to any sort of accountability?
00:42:31.020 Media.
00:42:31.980 I say you become the media.
00:42:34.080 That's what you do.
00:42:35.660 I got on this convoy because my boss, Ezra Levant, he told me,
00:42:40.180 Kian, the mainstream media is not going to give these guys a fair shake at what they're going to say.
00:42:45.080 They're going to try and discredit them because they're scared of you.
00:42:47.820 In case I will break your camera.
00:42:49.260 You're not going to have the right to.
00:42:51.000 Whoa!
00:42:52.880 Hey, what's going on?
00:42:53.880 Hey, media, media.
00:42:54.940 Okay.
00:42:55.140 We'll understand now.
00:42:58.280 Shame on these police.
00:43:00.620 When Montreal police accost our reporters, you know what they call us?
00:43:05.700 Jew media.
00:43:07.400 You're just me, sir.
00:43:09.600 What?
00:43:10.700 Who are you, sir?
00:43:11.760 I'm with Rebel News.
00:43:13.320 Sheila Gunn-Reed here on special assignment this week in Iraqi Kurdistan.
00:43:17.280 I'm here documenting your efforts to save the Christian survivors of an ISIS genocide here in the place that has been the cradle of Christianity
00:43:24.320 for 2,000 years.
00:43:26.700 I'll be meaning for Rebel News in Bari, southern Israel, at the site of the horrific massacre at the Nova Festival.
00:43:35.380 The Rebel Media's part was to give this a lift.
00:43:37.720 Let everyone see it.
00:43:38.380 Let everyone hear it.
00:43:39.220 Let everyone hear the voice of the community.
00:43:40.540 How angry local people are.
00:43:41.920 And get justice for Chelsea.
00:43:42.840 Let them know.
00:43:53.900 Fucking USA, eh?
00:43:56.200 USA, eh?
00:43:57.580 USA, eh?
00:43:58.800 AMAZING CIVIL LIBERTYS INITIATIVE LAUNCHED BY THE REBELS TO GIVE THESE GUYS SOME REPRESENTATION AND HOPEFULLY CONFUSE THE SITUATION THAT WE'VE GOT DOWN HERE.
00:44:10.440 THEY WANT US TO MOVE THIS SIGN AROUND. WE CAN CONTINUE DISPLAYING IT, APPARENTLY, AS LONG AS WE MOVE IT BACK AND FORTH.
00:44:20.160 SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
00:44:22.360 I'M HERE WITH SARAH MILLER, ONE OF CANADA'S BEST HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYERS, AND WE ARE HERE TO HAND DELIVER HER METICULOUSLY DRAFTED HUMAN RIGHTS COMPLAINT DOCUMENTING THE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES THAT UNFOLDED IN CANADA OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE PANDEMIC.
00:44:46.320 GOOD NEWS, EVERYBODY. REBEL NEWS HAS DECIDED TO HELP US OUT WITH LAWYER FEES.
00:44:51.920 WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATE. THANK YOU, GUYS. SO THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR DONATING. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
00:44:57.920 WE STARTED OFF THIS CONVOY CALLING IT TAKING BACK OUR FREEDOMS, BUT OUR FREEDOMS ARE NOBODY'S TO TAKE AWAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO RESTORE EVERYBODY'S FREEDOMS.
00:45:13.920 AND WE SURE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT AND THE LOVE THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I HAVE ANY MORE TEARS TO CRY.
00:45:20.920 AND I WANT TO THANK EZRA LEVANT AND REBEL NEWS. IF EZRA IS THERE, EZRA COME.
00:45:30.920 YOU SEE, THIS IS A MAN THAT I HAVE DIFFERENCES WITH.
00:45:40.920 AND WE'LL CALL IT A MEDIA ORGANIZATION. YOUR GROUP.
00:45:42.920 NEARLY EVERY MEDIA OUTLET HAS FALLEN IN LIFE, EXCEPT HER ONE.
00:45:48.920 I PROMISE YOU THIS. I'LL GIVE IT EVERYTHING I HAVE NOT.
00:45:52.920 WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO CENTER? ANSWER.
00:45:54.920 AND YOU ASK THEM A QUESTION, AND THEY CAN'T ANSWER IT.
00:45:58.920 BILLIONS FOR YOUR INAFFECTIVE VACCINE.
00:46:04.920 I'VE BEEN TOLD OVER THREE TIMES TODAY.
00:46:06.920 YOU'RE IN A CITY FACILITY? YEAH, SO ARE YOU.
00:46:08.920 WHY ARE YOU LYING TO CENEGANS?
00:46:10.920 WELL, AS WE KNOW, ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.
00:46:13.920 PEOPLE FROM THE PRESS, THEY ARE SHOVING THEM IN THEIR LEGS.
00:46:16.920 WHY IS YOUR GOVERNMENT SUPPORTING IS LAUGHING NOW?
00:46:19.920 PUSHING YOUR LUCK, I THINK.
00:46:21.920 I'VE BEEN A PUBLIC FIGURE IN CANADA.
00:46:25.920 I'VE BEEN A PUBLIC FIGURE IN THE UK.
00:46:26.920 I KNOW YOU GOT ANSWER TOUGH QUESTIONS.
00:46:28.920 AND YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS, AND THAT'S FAIR.
00:46:31.920 HELLO, MR. SINGH. DREA HUMFREY WITH REBEL NEWS.
00:46:34.920 YOUR PARTY TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN STANDING AGAINST HATE,
00:46:37.920 SUCH AS WHITE SUPREMACY, ISLAMOPHOBIA, AND ALL...
00:46:40.920 SORRY, I DIDN'T GET YOUR OUTLET.
00:46:42.920 DREA HUMFREY WITH REBEL NEWS.
00:46:44.920 OKAY.
00:46:45.920 YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO GO WITH THIS, ALL RIGHT?
00:46:47.920 LET ME TELL YOU, GOING IN THAT BUILDING IS LIKE GOING IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST.
00:46:51.920 THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIKE US THERE, AND THEY LET US KNOW IT.
00:46:56.920 REBEL NEWS GOT AS MANY QUESTIONS AS I THINK CBC, RADIO CANADA, PRESS CANADA,
00:46:59.920 AND CTV OR GLOBAL COMBINED LAST NIGHT.
00:47:02.920 THERE WERE ALMOST 50% OF THE QUESTIONS.
00:47:04.920 SHEILA GUNRIED FOR REBEL NEWS.
00:47:06.920 OH, YAY, SHEILA.
00:47:07.920 WE'VE SEEN THE NDP TONIGHT REFUSE TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS.
00:47:11.920 THE LIBERALS HAVE GONE ONE STEP FURTHER.
00:47:14.920 THE CARNEY CAMPAIGN HAS CALLED THE POLICE ON INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS.
00:47:17.920 THE POWERS THAT BE, WHO ORGANIZED THE DEBATE, THE LEGACY MEDIA TYPES,
00:47:22.920 WITH CBC RADICALLY INVOLVED, COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXCLUDE REBEL MEDIA.
00:47:26.920 WILL YOU CONDEMN THE RISE IN ACTS OF HATE AGAINST CHRISTIANS TODAY,
00:47:30.920 AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR PARTY WILL DO MOVING FORWARD
00:47:34.920 TO KEEP CHRISTIANS SAFE FROM HATE IN CANADA?
00:47:38.920 AGAIN, THANK YOU, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO AN ORGANIZATION
00:47:40.920 THAT PROMOTES MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION LIKE REBEL NEWS,
00:47:44.920 SO NO, I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION.
00:47:46.920 REBEL NEWS IN PARTICULAR TRAFFICS IN MISINFORMATION, FACTS, LACK OF FACTS,
00:47:51.920 AND AS YOU HEARD IN THAT QUESTION, WHICH WAS WOVEN WITH SOME TRUTH
00:47:55.920 AND SOME THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.
00:47:57.920 YES, THERE HAVE BEEN BURNINGS OF CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES.
00:48:01.920 YES, THERE HAVE BEEN REMAINS OF INDIGENOUS CHILDREN FOUND IN VARIOUS PLACES
00:48:06.920 AROUND THE COUNTRY.
00:48:08.920 I DON'T BELIEVE THEM EITHER, NO, DAVID.
00:48:22.920 ACTUALLY, WE DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING WE READ ON THE NEWS, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE REBEL.
00:48:27.920 THANK YOU, MAM.
00:48:28.920 APPRECIATE IT.
00:48:29.920 THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
00:48:30.920 THANK YOU.
00:48:31.920 THANK YOU.
00:48:32.920 THANK YOU.
00:48:33.920 THANK YOU.
00:48:34.920 SCHILA GUNREED FOR REBELL NEWS, AND I AM HERE JUST OUTSIDE OF EDMONTON ALBERTA.
00:48:45.920 AND THE REASON I AM HERE IS THIS IS THE WHEREHOUSE THAT WILL HOUSE ΠIERE
00:48:51.920 PAUIIEV'S FIRST ALBERTA CANADA FIRST RALLY.
00:48:55.920 yea moldy.
00:48:56.920 Good morning Saskatchewan, it is so good to see you all here today.
00:49:06.160 My name is Lise Merle and I am Saskatchewan's girl.
00:49:10.960 When you take back your country you will be able to say you were there, you were there
00:49:16.280 at a turning point, you were there when the people decided in their millions to no longer
00:49:23.040 be afraid to love their country. Good luck and keep fighting for freedom.
00:49:33.720 Many if not all of us here today shared the very values that the great Charlie James Kirk
00:49:40.920 shared and defended.
00:49:43.800 Hundreds have gathered here for a candlelight vigil in honour of Charlie Kirk.
00:49:47.800 You're a big Charlie Kirk fan, why?
00:50:08.480 Because he's good and he's a Christian and he believes in Jesus.
00:50:13.480 No fear!
00:50:14.480 Fascists are not welcome here!
00:50:16.480 No hate, no fear!
00:50:17.480 Hey guys, fascists are not welcome here!
00:50:19.480 I don't know if you know this but a father just had his head blasted in front of the world
00:50:25.480 and we're grieving.
00:50:26.480 Can you maybe not take pictures and videos of us?
00:50:27.480 We're grieving that right now.
00:50:28.480 F*** you, fascists!
00:50:29.480 What's her message to people?
00:50:31.480 Die, fascists!
00:50:33.480 I think some people might censor because of the fear of maybe having the same ending.
00:50:42.480 I think people are not going to be afraid.
00:50:44.480 I think they're going to, they're going to say for what they believe and we're going to,
00:50:49.480 we have to stay strong and stand up for what we believe.
00:50:54.480 This is the turning point. That's what that is.
00:51:01.480 He was an important person in my life and our lives and what was done was absolutely cruel and devastating
00:51:08.480 and it means a lot to show our support for Charlie Kirk and his family.
00:51:11.480 We're all Canada's patriots. We're all courageous. We're all Charlie Kirk.
00:51:16.480 We have just made millions of Charlie Kirks across the world and rest in peace Charlie.
00:51:22.480 We will carry on your legacy. I swear on it.
00:51:25.480 Christ says the biggest form of love is to lay down your life for one another.
00:51:30.480 Charlie Kirk did that for the conservative movement and to reunite young people to Christianity.
00:51:36.480 And for that, I think that Charlie Kirk is a martyr for the conservative movement.
00:51:43.480 This is the moment we stand in truth, unfettered. We know what's right and wrong and we all be more like Charlie Kirk.
00:52:08.480 And we went over minds and souls, one conversation at a time.