00:00:30.840It's the day after Charlie Kirk was assassinated in the United States, and it still weighs heavily on my mind.
00:00:37.820I'm in London, in the U.K. right now, a country that Charlie cared about.
00:00:42.420He came over here to warn the U.K. about losing its freedom, and he spoke passionately.
00:00:47.880And as Charlie Kirk is famous for doing, he engages in debate.
00:00:51.640He would go into the heart of university campuses and spend all day talking one-on-one in conversations with people who disagreed with him, trying to reason together.
00:01:02.020He was the best of America in that way.
00:01:05.760He didn't shout. He didn't lecture. He engaged. It was participative.
00:01:11.660And I think he treated everyone with respect, even people he deeply disagreed with.
00:01:15.940And his assassination is so shocking, in part because of that, because he was such a humanitarian, and he would have time even for people who deeply disagreed with him.
00:01:28.640I've been thinking about what the assassins wanted to accomplish, and I think some of it's obvious.
00:01:35.560The first thing they wanted to stop, Charlie Kirk himself.
00:01:39.440He's one in a million. He's hard-working, intelligent, effective.
00:01:47.300So they wanted to stop that man, and they did.
00:01:52.020He will no longer do his campus outreach, and Charlie Kirk probably would have eventually run for office himself, and who knows how high he would have gone.
00:02:00.840So that wonderful life was stopped short.
00:02:04.740So in that way, the terrorism that was unleashed yesterday was successful.
00:02:12.320There were two other things I think the assassin was trying to do.
00:02:15.780One was to demoralize us, to make us feel hopeless, to make us realize that we can never get Charlie Kirk back,
00:02:24.600and that maybe the world we live in is not what we thought it was, to make us question ourselves and lose our own motivation.
00:02:31.460And the third, of course, is to scare us, to make us think, well, will we be killed for our freedom of speech and for being in the public square also?
00:02:41.680And here's what I would say in response to all three of these goals from the assassin.
00:02:47.180It's true they killed Charlie Kirk, but if Charlie Kirk's supporters and friends choose,
00:02:54.120rather than to leave the field of the battle of ideas, but rather than to double down and to reinvest,
00:03:02.380maybe we can in some way compensate for Charlie's untimely death.
00:03:09.040And maybe if we all say, well, I'll take a part of the load he was carrying, maybe we can blunt the public effect of it.
00:03:15.460Obviously, no one can bring the man back, especially for his two young children.
00:03:21.620If instead of being demoralized, if we show resolve and say we cannot let the bad guys win
00:03:27.900and just make a conscious, intentional decision that we're not going to flee, we're not going to hide,
00:04:14.400And I think the answer is to take precautions, to be thoughtful about things, not to be reckless,
00:04:19.860but again, to show up in large numbers.
00:04:23.080And in a way, Charlie Kirk is a martyr.
00:04:26.720And the thing to do is to remember how the martyr lived and to try and replicate what made him so special in our own lives.
00:04:34.480I guess what I'm saying is we have a choice.
00:04:38.560We cannot bring Charlie Kirk back, but we have control over how we react to his murder.
00:04:44.540And I want to get over my funk and my sadness about Charlie Kirk's passing and transform that into resolve and, if I can, a little bit of courage.
00:04:57.220And maybe that's the best way to remember Charlie Kirk is to carry a little piece of his memory with us
00:05:05.480and to try and be a little more courageous and a little more fearless than they were before.
00:05:11.100I know these words are very little comfort in the day after his death.
00:05:23.120And I'm actually stunned by how many people all around the world were touched by him.
00:05:28.260I see even foreign leaders, even Canada's prime minister, made a comment, even Keir Starmer here in the UK.
00:05:36.340And I think that's a testament to the force for good of Charlie Kirk.
00:06:53.340Yeah, somber is definitely a great word to describe how today feels.
00:06:58.420And I was really hoping, you know, and the news hit yesterday, and just the shock of Charlie's untimely death as a young 31-year-old father.
00:07:11.460Husband with an entire life supposed to be ahead of him.
00:07:15.320I was hoping that by now I would have done a little bit more processing and be able to have collected myself a little bit more than I did yesterday.
00:07:29.260This is just absolutely devastating news.
00:07:32.820And anyone that I speak to is equally as devastated and somber and praying for Charlie's wife, their two children.
00:07:42.660As someone who's obviously married and has children of my own, just that dark thought of being in that situation is unfathomable.
00:07:53.180And I thought I would have more words, you know, as a commentator.
00:07:59.520I just really don't, other than trying to uphold the legacy that was Charlie Kirk and his ability to tap into the political will and political power of young people across America.
00:08:18.340And, you know, the ricochet effect that we can glean from that here in Canada, where he built this, you know, over the course of several years, he built this massive movement through the very same events that took his life yesterday at a university campus in Utah.
00:08:37.700Um, it's just, it's just, it's so disturbing that at a place that is supposed to ignite discussion and debate and critical thinking.
00:08:49.700And, uh, it could also be the site of such political persecution and prosecution, as you say, and assassination.
00:09:00.060Um, he reached millions in his podcast.
00:09:03.140And that is such, you know, other than the obvious loss to his wife, his family, his children, um, that is such a loss to those, the young conservatives who he was influential in, in initiating that open discourse and that dialogue.
00:09:21.660And I think the only thing that Charlie Kirk is guilty of here is having respectful, open public discussion about controversial topics that, you know, the establishment would rather you just cower away from.
00:09:35.940Um, and sadly, I think there will be two sides to this situation where it does serve to stifle that discussion, uh, for people who may be terrified now, even more terrified than they were previously into submission to the narrative, to the establishment.
00:09:51.880But I think it will also serve to embolden, um, people to, to live his legacy through and live on by saying, you know what, no, we need to make sure that we continue to have these conversations.
00:10:04.000We need to continue to have this dialogue.
00:10:07.340And, um, I really hope to see more of that because there are so many amazing clips and I hope we can go through some of them of Charlie Kirk's speeches, his talks, his debates, his discussions that, um, we will not let die.
00:10:22.060I mean, there are things in recent history that, you know, you can remember exactly what you were doing when, when you heard the news.
00:10:29.240Like, I remember what I was doing when Princess Diana died.
00:10:31.540I remember what I was doing when the towers fell.
00:10:34.980I remember exactly what I was doing when I found out that Andrew Breitbart had died.
00:10:39.820Cause you just knew that these were things that in an instant changed everything.
00:10:45.560And, uh, I know exactly what I was doing yesterday and I don't think I'll ever forget because, uh, and I was giving some thought to this because it is 9-11 today.
00:10:56.500And I remember the coming together of everybody post 9-11, like everybody was an American that day.
00:11:06.200That even people like the people whose rhetoric led to the weaponization of the person or persons who did this still won't shut up.
00:11:21.760You know, when you go around telling everybody that you go around telling the punch a Nazi crowd, that, uh, not only is Charlie Kirk a Nazi, everybody who agrees with Charlie or even just agrees with his viewpoint that we should engage in civil debate.
00:11:40.720Oh, and by the way, they're also genociding you by not affirming you.
00:11:45.000Well, then what would you do if someone was genociding you?
00:11:47.480You would meet them with deadly force and now we've got it.
00:11:50.940And you would think, you would think they would have changed after Trump was very nearly killed twice on the campaign trail.
00:11:58.720But, you know, you still, I also remember where I was when I heard that Steve Scalise was shot in 2017 while playing baseball.
00:12:07.420That was an attempted political assassination.
00:12:10.620And you think things would have changed then?
00:12:12.780But no, um, you, you keep saying, you know, like you as, like us as a society, we keep saying this, we got to bring the temperature down because somebody is going to get killed.
00:12:21.180And then somebody gets killed and the temperature is just as hot as ever.
00:12:25.440And I don't know what to do with my anger today.
00:12:29.260Um, but there are plenty of people on our side who have been thrown around the word Nazi, trying to get liked by the punch Nazi crowd, maligning their, uh, critics.
00:12:38.440And I don't think we should let those people recede into the bushes, embarrassed Homer Simpson mean style either.
00:12:44.200I think those people need to be called out tougher than ever.
00:12:46.980Let's get, uh, we could, I could just rant about this, uh, forever, but you, and we do have some guests on the show today, hopefully that will join us.
00:12:57.200She's the editor in chief over at post-millennial and human events.
00:13:00.100And, uh, we should have Viva Fry, uh, joining us later in the show, David Fryheit.
00:13:06.140Um, he's in, he's a Canadian in America.
00:13:09.320So I think he has a unique, uh, viewpoint on this, but you wrote this up today.
00:13:13.860Anyway, tone deaf, mainstream media host fired following Charlie Kirk murder commentary.
00:13:19.240Uh, I hope there are many, many, many firings coming up in academia and otherwise, and we'll get to those, but tell us what happened here, Tamara.
00:13:34.900For wrong thing, but to be so out of touch and so tone deaf to the tragic loss of life of a father, a husband, and someone who had amassed such a massive following bred from positivity.
00:13:52.740I view Charlie Kirk's commentary as positive, open dialogue and discussion that is obviously so desperately needed in this world.
00:14:04.240And, uh, so here we have the first of, as you mentioned, Sheila, perhaps a string of firings, um, that will take place.
00:14:11.860But this comes from an MSNBC political analyst, Matthew Dowd, who was fired after suggesting on air, right?
00:14:20.060Like just as this was breaking news that Charlie Kirk was somehow responsible for or contributed to his own assassination.
00:14:28.200And I'm going to read through this article while also, um, throwing to some of these highlights, because I think that it is so important for everyone to see the kind of response that the mainstream media and the collectivists are having to this tragedy.
00:14:47.660Um, and I think it was Charlie Kirk who actually said himself, you can judge someone by how they react when someone dies.
00:15:07.960Uh, MSNBC has canned political analyst, Matthew Dowd, after his jaw dropping the insensitive remarks following the tragic assassination of conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk.
00:15:18.340During a live broadcast, Dowd essentially implied that Kirk's bold, unapologetic takes on everything from gun rights to civil liberties,
00:15:25.860somehow invited the bullet that ended his life at the young age of 31.
00:15:30.960Um, you can't stop with these sorts of awful thoughts you have, and then saying these awful words and then not expect awful actions to take place.
00:15:47.940He said, you know, he, he says this as though debating liberal views or questioning them or having open dialogue about them is some sort of capital offense.
00:15:55.140MSNBC is now appearing to scramble to save face, um, following the backlash of this commentary, calling Dowd's words inappropriate, insensitive, and unacceptable.
00:16:07.760Sadly, what's equal parts shocking and utterly predictable is that this is not an isolated incident in the United States.
00:16:15.240Here in Canada, our taxpayer-funded propaganda machine, the state broadcaster, CBC, has pulled a similar stunt.
00:16:23.000And before I continue on, maybe we can just play this little clip from the CBC, what they were saying.
00:16:46.560The provocations, uh, these university tours, he's going to these campuses, you know, to sort of, um, provocation and confrontation and debate and argument was a big part of what he did with this Turning Point USA.
00:16:59.460But he was very close to Donald Trump, who was ordered all U.S. flags to be lowered in honor of Charlie Kirk for his murder today.
00:17:19.160And we'll get to more, there's a couple more clips of, of David Cochran there as well, who's, uh, host of Power of Politics on the state broadcaster.
00:19:26.120I mean, talk about, oh, I say it in the article, kicking a man when he's down.
00:19:32.040Instead of, you know, mourning like we just saw from humans and people that knew Kirk personally.
00:19:39.780Um, mourning that father, that husband, a friend, a defender of free speech.
00:19:46.000Someone who engaged in respectful discourse.
00:19:48.840It dredged up these criticisms of liberal views as if, you know, to capitalize on his death as some sort of like gotcha moment.
00:19:57.500Look at what will happen to you if these are your views.
00:20:01.160You know, a normal publication would say, uh, maybe they could have dug up the times where Charlie was threatened by somebody in the audience.
00:20:14.420Like, these are the times over the years where he was threatened by maniacs in the audience.
00:20:21.200Was screamed at by them and still reacted calmly and civilly, um, to show, you know, instead they're trying to make Charlie the bad guy here.
00:20:32.960But he was the victim of a bad guy and it was escalating over years and years and years.
00:20:39.340I was listening to Steven Crowder this morning.
00:20:41.880Um, and you know, he was sort of going through all the times because he is the, you know, the guy who sits down at the table and says, prove me wrong.
00:20:50.080Um, which is a discussion and they would have stuff thrown at them.
00:20:54.700And if you could throw something at somebody, you could shoot them, right?
00:20:58.840You can be that if you can get that close and wing something at somebody, well, it's easy to shoot them.
00:21:03.660And he was going through all the times where he's just having to, trying to have a civil discussion.
00:21:07.880People walk up, scream at him and then assault him or his crew.
00:21:11.440And so it's a pernicious and systemic problem, uh, and it's not going to get any better when the mainstream media keeps saying, well, you kind of brought it on yourself.
00:21:23.840It's truly adds fuel to the fire and just goes to show how compromised the state broadcaster here is in Canada.
00:21:35.000I mean, in our political supposed leaders haven't been much better, better, I want to point to a post from Anthony Housefather, liberal MP, um, who really is subtly blaming, well, not even subtly, he's blaming targeted, hateful rhetoric.
00:22:08.400He says, uh, he makes himself the victim here, obviously.
00:22:12.120Um, and he was the only liberal to say something for hours and hours and hours and hours.
00:22:18.920Um, but I wish he had actually kept his mouth shut.
00:22:22.460Uh, the murder of Charlie Kirk is a tragedy and I pray for his family.
00:22:25.880I hope that those on this and other platforms that repeatedly personally attack people and incite hate against them, look at this and see the potential real life consequences.
00:22:33.960consequences of targeted hateful rhetoric.
00:22:35.440That phone call is coming from inside the house.
00:22:41.200Conservatives are the victims of violence in real life because somebody sent a hate tweet to you, like, grow up, um, you're not the victim.
00:23:08.540And Mark Carney simultaneously posts some clip from his nonsense interview about shifting mindsets.
00:23:17.660Low-level local, yeah, a low-level local podcaster.
00:23:21.260I checked yesterday and it had, like, under 3,000 views for hours and hours and hours because nobody cares.
00:23:27.440Everybody was waiting for him to say something about a political assassination.
00:23:31.120Even if you don't like Charlie Kirk, um, as a leader of a free country, next door to the Americans, our alleged best friends in the world, somebody very close to Donald Trump was just politically assassinated.
00:23:48.820Uh, hello, Canada, you might want to say something.
00:23:56.760And then, I think it was two hours prior to this, Kier Polyev had already posted, we must all strongly denounce the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
00:24:08.540Political violence is never justified.
00:24:12.340He called for the attacker to be brought to justice and free speech upheld.
00:24:16.360Yeah, I mean, it was constant yesterday.
00:24:19.700Like, right after it happened, it was Daniel Smith said something.
00:24:23.440Doug Ford, by the way, sent out a fundraising email.
00:24:28.060Daniel Smith almost instantly sent out a message of condolences.
00:24:33.160I think just about everybody in the Conservative Caucus, from Michael Barrett to Michelle Rempel to, uh, Andrew Scheer, um, condolences, uh, to the family and denouncing political violence.
00:24:49.800I'm saddened and horrified by the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
00:24:52.560Our hearts are with Charlie and his family.
00:24:54.180Political violence has no place in a free and democratic society and must be condemned without reservation.
00:24:58.980And let us remember it is the same ideology.
00:25:01.300Attacking Daniel Smith for, uh, banning graphic pornography from, uh, from schools and attacking her for banning, uh, men from women's sports.
00:25:19.240Yeah, you, this is a, a sacred cow, the DEI, the trans sanity, uh, you can't criticize this without facing actual hate and violence out in public.