A plan to take over an empty Chrysler factory in Canada and turn it into a factory making Chinese vehicles. What would that do to our access to the U.S. market? I'll go into it a little bit, but first let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. It's 8 bucks a month, which we sure need.
00:00:00.100Hello, my friends. Very strange story today I read about in Bloomberg about a plan to take over an empty Chrysler factory in Canada and turn it into a factory making Chinese vehicles.
00:00:14.120What would that do to our access to the U.S. market?
00:00:17.360I'll go into it a little bit, but first let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.
00:00:21.820That's the video version of this podcast.
00:04:28.620I just want to say the obvious. This came about because of Mark Carney's visit to China earlier this year. A few months ago, he opened the door to all this. I don't know how this works. I thought he was going there to try and get China to buy Canadian things. Isn't that what Mark Carney says? We need to find other markets besides the United States.
00:04:49.300we need to double our other markets which still is such a fraction even if we did double it of
00:04:55.200what we sell to america but isn't the whole idea what bloomberg alluded to there is the world's
00:05:00.840largest market don't we want to sell to them as opposed to buy from them i mean he came back
00:05:07.100with them extracting a promise from him to allow 49 000 chinese made cars into canada every single
00:05:17.800year and that number actually goes up so the jobs are in china they would take up our market
00:05:24.700canadians would apparently buy these 49 000 cars and since chinese cars aren't allowed into the
00:05:30.080united states it 100 would become coming at the cost of canadian auto uh sales it's it's not like
00:05:36.560these cars could be sold to anyone else other than canadians here's the u.s ambassador talking
00:05:43.680about those cars with me last week i think it's those cars can come in from china come out come
00:05:50.320into canada they're not going to cross the border into the u.s you know china's imports brought to
00:05:58.040you through canada into the u.s chinese air imports or imports uh you know that ain't going
00:06:03.940to happen okay uh the canadians are going to buy you know if anybody buys those cars it's going to
00:06:08.860be Canadians. And they'll, you know, you guys will have to take a look at it. I'm rather a
00:06:16.720simple guy on some of this stuff. It's kind of like, okay, if you're buying 49,000 cars that
00:06:22.180are made in China, that means that you're probably not going to be buying 49,000 cars that were built
00:06:30.260in Ontario. Okay. That's a Canadian decision. 49,000 cars is not enough cars to build a factory.
00:06:43.060Again, I'm a marketing guy. I'm not an engineer. But my understanding in talking to
00:06:49.300folks in the auto industry that if you really want to build to scale a car plant, you know,
00:06:57.880where the efficiencies and all of that in you got to be at least at a quarter of a million cars
00:07:03.160okay you're not going to you're not going to build a factory for maybe the chinese will but
00:07:07.560you're not going to build a factory to build 49 000 cars um but those are those are decisions
00:07:13.800that canada has to make you know you had other factors in play um like uh you know exports of
00:07:21.160canola or canola that played into this and other tariffs so that you know but
00:07:28.720we're not gonna get involved in that but we know that we're not gonna open you
00:07:32.620know the we're not gonna open the floodgates to have Chinese cars coming
00:07:37.000into the US from Canada that ain't gonna happen and so you know security
00:07:43.760standpoint you know with the technology that they now have built into cars you
00:07:50.580You know, and I think the, you know, some insurance companies or some states are looking at, you know, when you go out and buy your license plates, it's going to be dependent on how many miles you drive per year.
00:08:03.020And that number is not going to be, you know, derived from a form that you fill out that says, oh, I drove 11,500 miles last year.
00:08:11.720it'll come from some data that they're getting that has tracked your car for the last year and
00:08:17.980they said yeah you said you drove 11 500 we're tracking it you drove 13 321 miles and here's
00:08:27.000exactly where you went uh and so uh you know i i would expect coming out of the intelligence world
00:08:35.400that little, that car driving around from China, it's a great gobbler of data and information.
00:08:51.020It's consuming and getting information, and at times it will be sending information.
00:09:00.980By the way, I noticed that today the Wall Street Journal China refers to my conversation with the ambassador about that point.
00:09:09.320And Bloomberg has done two news stories about that comment from the ambassador, which is funny because no other mainstream media in Canada has even referred to the interview.
00:09:17.420They would rather not tell their customers the news than to tip their hat to rebel.
00:09:22.340Isn't that interesting? The Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg don't care about rebel news.
00:09:25.600They have no rebel derangement syndrome.
00:09:27.760So they're happy. I mean, the Wall Street Journal China, that's a pretty big newspaper.
00:09:31.320That is the newspaper in China read by anyone from the West, any Western expats, anyone.
00:09:38.460It's sort of the bridge newspaper between China and the United States.
00:09:42.300Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool that it was in there.
00:09:43.700Now, back to the deal that Mark Carney is trying to get.
00:09:49.740Like I say, I thought they wanted, I thought we wanted them to buy stuff from us.
00:09:53.980I thought that's what these missions were about.
00:09:55.940I think China does want to buy things from us, mainly oil and gas and other raw materials.
00:10:02.000But like South Korea and Japan, they were told no by the liberals.
00:10:08.040It was Trudeau who told them and Carney, who was Trudeau's economic advisor for half a decade, who said, no, we're not going to build another pipeline to the West.
00:11:16.860Do you trust the Chinese Communist Party?
00:11:19.020on anything from quality control to industrial espionage to sanctity of contracts. They don't
00:11:25.760have independent courts in China to even letting Canadians work in these plants. When China invests
00:11:31.700somewhere in a third country, they typically insist that it's their own countrymen who did
00:11:36.620the construction and the operation. Will there even be any jobs for Canadian auto workers here?
00:11:43.640Or is there going to be Chinese nationals working in a car plant that has been emptied out of Canadians?
00:11:51.300Well, Melanie Jolie, who makes Trudeau look like a PhD, said this about that.
00:11:56.960Quote, we believe that these great Canadian champions can partner with Chinese EV companies to make a Canadian Chinese car to export it around the world, Jolie told Bloomberg News in February.
00:12:09.280Do you really think that's going to happen?
00:12:11.120she said any chinese auto production in canada may have conditions around it to address concerns
00:12:17.640about software security jobs and parts suppliers quote we think we're able to have labor standards
00:12:23.220that are in conformity with what we accept and expect in canada and that there can be local
00:12:27.660supply chains in canada that are created out of these investments hey do you think you can make
00:12:31.840a chinese car in canada with chinese with sir with canadian labor canadian parts and be able
00:12:38.960to export it from Canada to the world, except for to the United States, and to be able to compete
00:12:45.960with the exact same car being made in China by Chinese labor under Chinese conditions. That is
00:12:51.120like no unions allowed, no environmental, no healthcare. So I say again, other than the
00:12:56.440Canadian market, these cars cannot go anywhere. They can't go into the United States. So do you
00:13:02.220really think a Chinese car made in high-cost Canada is going to be able to beat the sales
00:13:10.040of a Chinese car made in low-cost China anywhere in the world? I just don't get it. What do you
00:13:15.920think? I mean, they just have two possible buyers, Canadians or foreigners other than the U.S.
00:13:20.740Here's that Bloomberg story mentioning my interview with the ambassador again. Those cars can come in
00:13:25.840from China, come into Canada, but they're not going to cross the border into the U.S.,
00:13:29.860Hoekstra told Canada's Rebel News, that ain't going to happen.
00:13:34.200It was unclear whether he meant that Chinese cars legally imported into Canada would be denied.
00:13:38.060The U.S. paperwork needed for resale in the U.S., barred entirely from going across the border,
00:13:43.520were subjected to other administrative hurdles.
00:13:46.380Yeah, I mean, the idea makes no sense here.
00:13:49.320If you're a Canadian auto worker, it makes less sense even than zero.
00:13:53.040It makes no sense if you want to keep access to the U.S. market.
00:13:55.560I mean, factories only make sense with that U.S. market in mind.
00:14:00.060That's something Ambassador Hoekstra, who's from Michigan, said to me.
00:16:07.760And, you know, so they're making cars one day and the next day.
00:16:10.580They've taken a line, or I'm sure it's not a line,
00:16:13.360But they've taken a lot of their engineering capability and all that and said, OK, instead of building an escape tomorrow, you're building a ventilator.
00:16:23.300And they figured it out. That's why you need and why the president is so insistent on having that capability.
00:16:30.920But to maintain that capability, our biggest threats are from Korea, Japan, Mexico.
00:16:41.260So we've got to work on those are the places where you really can move some numbers and getting car production here back into the U.S.
00:16:49.700And then we've got to figure out what we're going to do with China because that's that's the biggest threat.
00:16:53.560So if you're going to let China colonize Canada's auto market, you're basically saying you're going to cut yourself out of the U.S. market.
00:17:01.920All right. I mean, that market has been a source of tens of billions of dollars over the 60 plus
00:17:09.440years since the auto pact was signed. I don't know, more than a hundred billion dollars net
00:17:13.640to Canada. So you're going to nuke your access to that market in return for the privilege of
00:17:18.580making a few Chinese spy mobiles that you can't sell anywhere else. Just, just crazy.
00:17:26.760That's what it's like, I guess, when a government centrally plans an economy,
00:17:30.060that's really no better than Avi Lewis's NDP planned his centrally planned and nationalized
00:17:35.020grocery stores. Is this the elbows up part or is it the new world order part? I'm not quite sure.
00:22:16.260Well, there's a very interesting story in Juneau News by our favorite reporter over there,
00:22:20.460Melanie Bennett, who has discovered that there is a left-wing equivalent to Second Sons,
00:22:25.620a so-called active club where left-wingers are taught to fight in a way that suggests that they
00:22:33.020should be scrutinized the same way the CBC is scrutinizing the far right active clubs. Joining
00:22:38.100us now via Skype is Melanie Bennett. Nice to see you again. Thanks for coming back on the show.
00:22:43.420I'm trying to say that there are groups that have this paramilitary style on the far right and on
00:22:49.300the far left. But as far as I know, the only ones who have actually been violent in street gangs
00:22:54.960are the ones on the left are you aware of any right-wing groups that are violent paramilitary
00:23:00.440style on the street i just don't know any and i follow it pretty closely well thank you for
00:23:06.540uh being here a pleasure as always ezra i am i'm not personally aware of right-wing groups on the
00:23:15.100streets fighting i have seen these videos promotional videos and posts from second sons
00:23:20.340And I think there's also Nationalist 13, I think they're called, so that, I mean, these right wing active groups do exist and, you know, they are organizing politically and that is a thing that is going on.
00:23:32.860But no, I have not seen them rush people at protests in the way that we see Antifa doing on a regular basis.
00:23:38.900and it's not just that i mean like the attacks on our reporter alexa lavar are insane we've
00:23:45.340actually sued the police of montreal for standing by watching as antifa attacks them and that is a
00:23:52.900conscious decision the montreal police in fairness have been sued multiple times by leftist protesters
00:23:59.520and in one case the city forced them to settle and paid millions of dollars to the far left street
00:24:07.100activists so i think police in montreal where they might like to stop antifa have basically
00:24:13.160been told by their bosses to roll over because we'll be sued again so it's really shocking
00:24:19.200and we've had to uh not only provide alexa lavois with bodyguards every time she goes up because
00:24:25.140the police are of no use but we're suing the police i'll let you know how that goes but tell
00:24:29.080me a little bit more about what you've discovered melanie a group called proletarian fighting arts
00:24:36.600arts collective um what's that well the proletarian fighting arts collective was not my discovery i'd
00:24:46.100like to just do a little shout out to an account called restore canada who brought that to my
00:24:49.940attention and i noticed that it didn't actually get a whole lot of views so i started looking
00:24:54.740into this particular group and they appear to be mostly active on instagram um and from what i can
00:25:00.920tell they start in about 2020 so you mentioned the right-wing active clubs I when I saw this
00:25:07.340proletarian fight club I was kind of surprised because there has been an awful lot of attention
00:25:11.420on these right-wing active clubs and the attention has been it's not just it's not just a physical
00:25:19.540activity it's not just sport they're politically organizing for a particular cause but this club
00:25:26.160the proletarian fighting arts collective you could say is a left-wing active club they are doing
00:25:30.300exactly the same thing and they have been doing since 2020. And I really did try to have a look
00:25:36.120in the legacy media, whether or not anyone had ever reported on them, because there has been
00:25:41.800such attention on the right-wing version of these. And I didn't find any. And I found that very
00:25:46.960interesting because as a journalist, when I'm looking things up, I should be able to pick up
00:25:54.700on the left-wing clubs like the proletarian fighting arts collective so that's that suggests
00:26:00.480to me that perhaps they haven't even bothered to look yeah you know um i think a lot of this
00:26:05.900antifa is much more violent in some parts of europe in some parts of germany for example
00:26:12.380where they sort of began and some cities they basically rule the streets in seattle and portland
00:26:18.780I mean, the mayor, the police chief, they effectively have signed a peace treaty with Antifa, giving them swaths of territory.
00:26:29.060You might remember when they had sort of this zone, this collective zone where a territory, I think they called it the CHAZ.
00:26:39.080They literally ceded blocks of territory to Antifa, as it sort of reminds me of the Batman movie and where Gotham was handed over to Bane.
00:26:51.020Do you have any evidence that these proletarian fighting arts collectives, this left wing fight club, do we know if they have actually done violence or are they?
00:27:04.600Because it's easy to talk tough online.
00:27:06.420Half the fun of being online is you can escape your reality and become, you know, a fantasy role player.
00:27:14.080You can be a little tougher online than you are in real life.
00:27:17.320Do we know if these left-wing fight clubs actually do meet?
00:27:26.420I don't think that there's any evidence at all that this particular group have gone out onto the streets to cause violence.
00:27:33.960However, the reason that I feature them is because of the parallel between the right-wing active clubs and completely ignoring this club because it seems to be an utter parallel.
00:27:42.200So, for example, the right-wing active clubs, one of the complaints by Legacy Media is that they were politically organizing.
00:27:48.160Now, if you go through the Instagram, there are many posts that talk about, quote, political education, political education, organizing, for example, also, quote, community defense and collective power.
00:28:00.640So that's very, very similar to the right wing clubs. But in the video of the CBC little mini clip documentary, they talk about how, well, these groups, you know, they're saying on their social media that they don't attack first.
00:28:12.920And then you look here at the left wing clubs, the proletarian fighting our club, and they say on a number of occasions throughout that they they're learning to fight individually and collectively, they said, but also that they're training to, quote, overcome passivity amongst other sections which talk about proactive fighting.
00:28:29.880So, for example, they say in one post, quote, we at the PFAC would never advocate for waiting for a known and certain aggressor to attack you.
00:28:39.240And so there's all kinds of posts like this. So they do, in other words, punch first.
00:28:42.920That's what they're telling their members to do. They do meet regularly in Scarborough, in Macowan Road area, I believe.
00:28:52.180They have been for some time. They're also associated with multiple, I mean, being socialists and left wing.
00:28:58.240They're not acting on their own. They're not individualists. They're collectivists. And so they do work with and advocate with many other organizations, some tenant collectives, but also, you know, the BDS movement.
00:29:11.320They're very close with the Toronto Palestinian families, who's been controversial, but also multiple other pro-Palestinian organizations causing some trouble on the streets.
00:29:21.260And so whilst there's no credible evidence that the people of this collective are themselves engaging in violent action on the streets, it could be the case, given the people that they are absolutely associating with and their propensity to encourage their members to be proactive.
00:29:37.900Yeah, you know, there's two visions I have in my brain when I think of left-wing activists.
00:29:42.640The first is what we saw out in force at the NDP Leadership Convention over the last few days, which is absolute clownishness, people who revel in being losers and, you know, seeking equity and, you know, their disability that or their pronouns.
00:30:01.480this like really um people who i i think uh would not be a physical threat to anyone other than to
00:30:09.380themselves they're sort of laughable um however you put those people in a mask and cover them
00:30:15.680head to toe in black the black block style suddenly some of them find a little bit of
00:30:20.800courage like if you actually see antifa thugs who are unmasked they're sort of losers but then they
00:30:26.340get this strength from their anonymity from their uniform and from their collective action
00:30:30.620I was in Portland when Andy Ngo was suing some of the Antifa who almost beat him to death.
00:30:37.840And as individuals without their masks on, they are as laughable as the NDP we all saw on TV.
00:30:43.580But you put masks on them and make them anonymous, they can get violent.
00:30:48.180But I want to touch on something you just said.
00:30:50.420They have made alliances with foreign nationals who are pushing pro-Hamas, pro-Iran lines.
00:30:57.360And my personal observation is those people are lawbreakers every time they go out, whether it's uttering threats, mischief, vandalism, harassment, trespass.
00:31:07.660You know, in Toronto recently, there's been three synagogues and a consulate shot all within a week.
00:31:13.740So I think on the one hand, this is sort of LARPing, live action role playing where they're sort of playing tough guy.
00:31:20.820it's easy to do on instagram but it wouldn't surprise me if some of them actually go out and
00:31:26.240and do at the very least vandalism and i don't know i don't know who's behind shooting these
00:31:30.980synagogues and the police haven't told us yet um i don't know what do you think about that
00:31:35.020the the intersection the red green alliance the the communist canadians and the islamist foreigners
00:31:42.540Listen, I'm not a fan of, you know, politically organizing far left or far right groups training to fight. Sometimes, I mean, going through this, it felt like perhaps they're training to fight each other and people like you and me, Ezra, for example, are kind of caught in the crosshairs here.
00:32:01.480But don't forget, and yes, I do think there's concern of this particular group, especially if we're going to be covering the far left. I am not aware of the right wing active clubs bringing children along to their training. I've not seen that. I mean, it could be, but I have not seen that.
00:32:20.040But one of the central things that the proletarian Fighting Arts Collective are doing is regularly training youth, so young children, into this particular ideology to proactively go after the so-called fascists.
00:32:34.000And by the way, it's not just fascists. I mean, in their posts, they say that they are criticizing liberals, fascists, right-wing libertarians, but even social democrats.
00:32:46.740And so they're expanding their, their, their, their spectrum of political ideologies that they're against. And so, you know, who's next? Progressives, other socialists, we don't know. And one of the clips that I found to be concerning about the youth element, the youth faction of the proletarian fighting arts collective is football games, sorry, American football.
00:33:09.120So soccer games being played. And the two teams were communists versus Gaza with some music about liberating Palestine and so forth.
00:33:19.180And so, you know, that deserves a little bit of attention in and of itself.
00:33:24.220You know, it's funny. I was just going to say, I'm looking at some of these Instagram posts of the groups who seem to support this fight club.
00:33:31.360and half of them have palestinian logos they have you know the the map of israel or the
00:33:38.220watermelon symbol which is the pro-hammas symbol so i suppose in that way there's really no
00:33:44.760difference between second sons and the proletarian fighting arts collective the one thing they can
00:33:51.320agree on is they don't like the jews very much they don't like the jews yeah um well do you
00:33:57.920think this is do you think this is something that um is a real risk is this the kind of i tell you
00:34:03.480one thing if this if these groups were on the right it would be a top thesis priority top
00:34:09.020research priority a top media priority there would be undercover police infiltrating which
00:34:15.240probably a good idea i i wonder if any of those responses have come to this group on the left or
00:34:21.300like with Gabrielle LePage in Quebec, if he's, you know, if his crimes are pardoned in advance
00:34:28.380because he's on the right side? I can't say about risk. I mean, I think I would be speculating. But
00:34:34.460what I do think is a risk is this growing trend for our national security organizations. Now,
00:34:42.840whether that be the local police, whether that be, you know, the RCMP or CSIS to focus very,
00:34:50.160very heavily on some groups and not others. When taking this example, taking this article as an
00:34:56.680example, the parallels between these two different groups are very striking. And I would actually say
00:35:03.800that to many, to a large degree, the proletarian fighting arts collective is possibly even more
00:35:09.080worrisome for the mere fact that they advocate very strongly to punch first, as I said, but also
00:35:14.800that they're training children in this ideology and they're receiving no attention whatsoever.
00:35:19.600the advantage of, I guess, you know, having attention on right-wing fight clips, they know
00:35:24.400they're being watched. So there's an advantage there. They know that they have to be careful,
00:35:28.540but these guys, they don't care. They know that they're not being watched. They know, for example,
00:35:32.780their alliances with some very questionable pro-Palestinian organizations who have engaged
00:35:38.360in crimes or have had members or affiliates engage in crimes on the streets over the past few years,
00:35:43.320they're not being watched. And, you know, we see the result of that, whether it was before October
00:35:49.0207th, whether it's anyone who was considered conservative or a white wing. And let's be
00:35:53.280honest, I'm not even conservative. I don't even know if I'm right wing, but I've been treated
00:35:57.300with the same ire from these Antifa types, right? So anyone they don't like, and after October 7th
00:36:03.740turned into the Jews and everyone they don't like. So yes, I do think there's a risk. And I think
00:36:08.360the risk is heightened by the fact that there's no scrutiny from the police services or national
00:36:15.240security services on these individuals.