Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Chinese spies exposed in election interference scandal, including Trudeau minister

00:00:00.000 Oh, hello, my Rebels. Today we talk to our friend Andy Lee, one of the few investigative

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00:01:44.440 Tonight, naming names, we'll talk about the Chinese spies in parliament, including a conservative.

00:02:04.800 It's November 1st, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:07.560 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:22.520 There are two Canadian journalists that I think have done more than any other

00:02:26.220 to move the ball forward on Chinese interference. I want to give honorable mention

00:02:31.140 to Steve Chase and Bob Fyfe of the Globe and Mail. We have to give credit where it's due.

00:02:35.200 But over the last year, I think two journalists have really made a name for themselves. Sam Cooper,

00:02:41.140 who's now an independent journalist, and of course, our dear friend, Andy Lee. These two have done deep

00:02:46.880 research, not just in the English language, but of course, in Chinese too, where a lot of the

00:02:51.320 interference can be tracked. We're going to talk to Andy Lee today about what she has discovered.

00:02:57.780 But first, let's let Sam Cooper set the table. I'm going to run a few minutes of this. 0.95

00:03:02.660 So tuck in and watch, because this is one of Canada's leading investigative journalists

00:03:08.080 doing the work that we all knew. He was finding things we all knew in our bones,

00:03:13.320 but he's proving it. Take a listen to Sam Cooper at his recent announcement,

00:03:17.960 the revelations indeed, that he made while on Parliament Hill.

00:03:22.160 So watch for a few minutes, and we'll come back and we'll talk to Andy. Take a look.

00:03:25.080 Thank you, MP Vaughan. I'm here today to highlight some of the names and entities covered in my updated

00:03:33.460 book and to pose a question. Should other Canadian journalists be examining the openly available

00:03:39.300 evidence surrounding these networks? Firstly, my book recounts reporting on a 2020 tape recording

00:03:46.860 provided to me, where Senator Yuen Pau Wu is heard in a 47-minute private briefing with the Canada

00:03:54.040 Committee 100 Society. This group included Conservative Senator Victor Oh as an advisory

00:04:01.440 member, along with an individual officially listed in a Chinese United Front Overseas Leaders Group.

00:04:09.740 The Canada Committee 100 Society is led in Vancouver by Ding Guo, a journalist who is also an advisor

00:04:17.600 to British Columbia Premier David Eby. Other journalists participating in this tape-recorded

00:04:24.080 meeting with Senator Wu later supported Liberal candidate Parm Baines in 2021. Baines had told

00:04:31.700 these journalists he opposed Kenny Chu's Foreign Agent Registry Bill, describing it as an exclusionary

00:04:38.700 policy. Ding Guo was also reportedly involved in the 2022 Conservative Party leadership race,

00:04:47.620 alongside community leaders officially connected to Beijing's overseas influence arm, the United

00:04:53.780 Front. I can provide more details later on how this should illuminate NSI COP 2024. In the taped meeting,

00:05:02.900 attendees asked Senator Wu about his stance regarding United Front Work Department community group

00:05:09.160 activities in Canada. These groups, according to CSIS, are central to targeting Canadian politicians for

00:05:16.240 influence and election interference. Senator Wu expressed his concerns about Canada's focus

00:05:22.520 on United Front groups, stating,

00:05:24.880 whether you belong to an organization that happens to be listed as a United Front organization should not be a

00:05:32.400 litmus test, and added, I am fighting very hard against that type of litmus test.

00:05:40.060 To provide the evidence of this tape-recorded meeting, which my colleague Charles Burton, a

00:05:46.500 sinologist and Mandarin language expert, reviewed and analyzed for myself, I'll briefly play

00:05:53.620 a transcript from this meeting.

00:05:56.460 I'm very worried that the mainstream in Canada, including a lot of my friends and political leaders and

00:06:04.960 business leaders and media leaders, are falling into a very dangerous trap where they are using what I call a

00:06:14.980 litmus test to demonstrate the loyalty of Chinese Canadians in this country.

00:06:21.340 We can identify, for example, your views of Hong Kong, your views of Tibet, your views of Peter's, your views of

00:06:30.900 South China Sea, whether you belong to an organization that is officially part of the

00:06:36.180 Korean Transition United Front. You know, many organizations are listed as part of a

00:06:43.420 an electronic list of organizations, and the fact that you are simply associated with one is out in use as a litmus test, and this is not a good development.

00:06:52.980 Mr. Burton, the sinologist and Mandarin language expert, reviewed the full tape recording and told me, quote,

00:07:03.540 Senator Wu's briefing to Canada Committee 100 Society effectively enables the legitimacy of agencies of the Chinese Communist Party in our country.

00:07:13.420 This does call into question Senator Wu's intervener status in the inquiry.

00:07:18.980 Senator Wu didn't comment to me about his remarks, but said I should question the Hogue Commission, who also didn't comment.

00:07:26.980 Ding Guo has said there is nothing inappropriate with Canada Committee 100 Society activities.

00:07:33.980 Therefore, in Willful Blindness 3rd Edition update, I write,

00:07:40.540 In a way, Senator Wu's intervention in the Hogue Commission seemed to fulfill his taped pledge to the United Front.

00:07:46.820 He repeatedly filed submissions undermining Canadian intelligence and using Chinese intelligence talking points.

00:07:53.480 Confidential Source 2 also repeatedly stressed that Conservative Senator Victor Oh, an advisor to the Canada Committee 100 Society,

00:08:18.000 was a significant target in CSIS's investigation into federal election interference.

00:08:24.560 In Willful Blindness, I write about investigations that began in early 2019.

00:08:31.100 I write,

00:08:31.820 According to three national security sources, Liberal Cabinet Minister Mary Ng was identified in CSIS investigations as one of 11 Toronto-area candidates

00:08:43.080 clandestinely supported by Chinese Consulate and United Front influence networks in the 2019 election.

00:08:50.040 CSIS assessed that Mary Ng was unwittingly implicated in this interference network.

00:08:56.480 Despite my requests, Mary Ng and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's office never responded for comment.

00:09:03.240 As I write in Willful Blindness, Mary Ng was one of the key Ontario Liberal Government staffers who moved to Ottawa with Trudeau,

00:09:13.420 alongside more high-profile advisors like Katie Telford and Gerald Butts.

00:09:20.480 Two national security sources indicated that a specific CSIS concern was Ng's staff allegedly meeting privately

00:09:29.040 with a Toronto Consulate diplomat to consult on China-related issues.

00:09:34.040 CSIS identified this diplomat, Zhou Wei, as a confirmed intelligence actor.

00:09:41.360 According to one source,

00:09:43.560 This is a critical detail hinted at in the Hogue Commission's initial report, which, for some reason,

00:10:08.440 did not disclose the involvement of Mary Ng's staff with Zhou Wei or clarify what this implies about Ng's position in Trudeau's Cabinet.

00:10:18.280 Thank you.

00:10:19.120 Well, there you have it, Sam Cooper.

00:10:20.900 You know what?

00:10:21.400 I let that run the full...

00:10:23.200 I mean, it was just so densely packed with info.

00:10:28.060 UN Pa Wu, really a senior hand to Justin Trudeau in the Senate, a Liberal.

00:10:33.480 Victor Oh, a conservative senator.

00:10:36.900 Now, his term just expired in June because he hit the mandatory retirement age.

00:10:42.360 I was going to say, I certainly hope Pierre Polyev kicks him out of the caucus.

00:10:46.480 Well, actually, just his...

00:10:49.320 He aged out of the Senate on his own.

00:10:52.400 But I think that, you know, it certainly seems like he was up to his eyeballs.

00:10:55.820 Let's go to our expert, Andy Lee.

00:10:58.340 Andy, tell me a little bit more about this Canada Committee 100 Society.

00:11:04.900 That's sort of a strange name.

00:11:06.600 It doesn't really tell you what it's about.

00:11:08.100 What does it mean?

00:11:08.780 What's the 100 mean?

00:11:10.340 Who is it?

00:11:11.020 It sounds like it's an operation by the Chinese intelligence side.

00:11:15.060 Yeah, well, it's a, you know, it's a nonprofit.

00:11:17.580 It was founded by Ding Guo, who is an acting advisor on Premier David Eby's, you know, Canada-China Committee.

00:11:28.240 He's actually authored a book, Ding Guo, and we can put that up.

00:11:33.820 And he posed with Senator Wu.

00:11:35.840 So he wrote about how to turn Richmond into a Chinese city using the nonprofit Canada Committee 100 Society.

00:11:44.940 And I think that was back around 2018, that they were promoting this book about how they could use this society to turn Richmond into a Chinese city.

00:11:55.200 What does that mean?

00:11:57.100 It kind of...

00:11:59.460 Ding Guo's a journalist, and he works for a media outlet called Rise Media.

00:12:04.940 And Rise Media, you know, sort of came into the spotlight because Ding Guo prominently featured Parm Baines in the last election.

00:12:15.760 And Parm Baines was seen speaking out very publicly against Kenny Chu's proposed private members bill, which would have introduced foreign agent registration legislation.

00:12:26.880 So all of it always, these activities always seem to be geared towards stifling this sort of registry being put into place.

00:12:35.580 So Rise Media was one of those media outlets that was maybe linked to Beijing that, you know, publicized Parm Baines and platformed him and maybe contributed to Kenny Chu ultimately losing his seat and killing that legislation.

00:12:50.660 And so that was noted by the commission.

00:12:53.720 So what's Rise Media, right?

00:12:56.760 What is it?

00:12:57.720 So Rise Media, I did some digging, is it was founded in 2015 by a company called Lahu.ca.

00:13:07.920 So Lahu.ca is what?

00:13:12.200 What is it, right?

00:13:12.980 Who made this media platform that we've got Ding Guo using to sort of rally and, you know, put out pro-Beijing talking points and especially try to stifle any sort of foreign agent legislation.

00:13:26.660 So it's a bit unclear as to what Lahu is.

00:13:30.120 It claims to be based in Burnaby, British Columbia.

00:13:34.360 But I found a interview with a managing editor and her name is Shui Mingming.

00:13:42.780 And Shui Mingming very clearly starts off her interview.

00:13:45.820 And this is, you know, again, open source information.

00:13:49.380 And she says it's a media company based in China.

00:13:52.320 Where in China, we don't know.

00:13:54.080 But if she's the managing director, she would probably know where it is.

00:13:59.020 So she says it's in China.

00:14:00.220 So that's the first thing about Lahu.ca.

00:14:02.740 And Rise Media is not the only platform that Lahu runs.

00:14:06.260 They run many, many, many platforms.

00:14:07.960 So I wanted to know more about Lahu.ca, right?

00:14:10.580 What's the parent company?

00:14:12.800 Again, it's really obscured.

00:14:17.320 But I did find out a couple of other things.

00:14:19.920 Somebody that manages both Lahu.ca and Rise Media is a gentleman called Tatu Shing.

00:14:27.900 Now, he also used to work at the Global Times.

00:14:33.500 And we know that Global Times is a subsidiary of the People's Daily Press, also both implicated in foreign interference operations and election interference.

00:14:45.100 They were flagged during the recent attacks against another outspoken MP and China critic, Michael Chong.

00:14:51.760 So he used to work at Global Times.

00:14:55.720 And now he's editing and directing Lahu.ca, who puts out Rise Media.

00:15:03.420 And we know that Global Times and the People's Daily Press is run by the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:15:08.220 You know, it's sort of overwhelming all the names and the connections.

00:15:12.620 But if I were to sum it up, what you're basically saying is there is a group active at promoting Beijing's political interests.

00:15:22.420 The group is organized and run out of China.

00:15:25.480 It's using and co-opting Canadian politicians, senators, advisors, MPs.

00:15:34.020 And its hand goes straight back to Beijing.

00:15:36.220 I think that's what you're saying.

00:15:37.040 Am I right?

00:15:38.260 Well, I mean, that's certainly what it seems to look like.

00:15:41.120 And I do agree with Sam when he says, you know, journalists should be looking at the open source information a lot closer and asking questions as to where these lobbies, right?

00:15:50.860 And people who pair at these kind of talking points that seem to be, you know, just CCP mouthpieces.

00:15:58.020 You know, where's their background?

00:16:00.120 Where's it coming from?

00:16:01.300 Again, everything points back to it being really, really closely linked to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:16:06.940 So, and this is, these are the questions that need to be asked.

00:16:11.280 And these are why, you know, perhaps these people do not want a foreign agent registry.

00:16:17.340 For instance, and I love to promote other people who do independent work.

00:16:21.660 Rise Media's Ding Guo last year.

00:16:24.480 He came out with a piece saying that pro-Beijing Chinese Canadians will punish bad politicians with their votes.

00:16:32.720 So, you know, he said, basically, we're going to punish you with our votes.

00:16:37.980 And he said something else really, really interesting, too.

00:16:40.640 He made some comments as to how it could be done.

00:16:44.340 So he said there are, and this is from, I should point out, it's from a sub stack.

00:16:49.780 And it's run by a companion of mine who runs a sub stack called Found in Translation.

00:16:54.680 So she translated this.

00:16:56.080 And so what Ding Guo said, there are many ways to participate in Canadian politics.

00:17:00.240 The first one is to participate in petitions.

00:17:03.580 And he goes on and on.

00:17:05.560 Now, a few short days after that, Senator Wu launched his petition against a foreign agent registry.

00:17:16.400 So it seems like Ding Guo...

00:17:17.340 So they're basically instructing, they're instructing Canadian politicians on what to do.

00:17:21.160 It seems like Ding Guo somewhat set the stage using his media platform to set up people and say, please sign this petition that's coming out.

00:17:30.380 So the petition dropped a few days after that article came out.

00:17:34.980 And, you know, they had been urging people to sign it.

00:17:38.460 And we know that the petition against the foreign agent registry that Senator Wu launched was highly suspect in and of itself.

00:17:47.600 This was a petition against the foreign agent registry?

00:17:51.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:52.460 So, you know, he launched this petition, you know, saying we have to stand against all modern day forms of exclusion and things like that.

00:18:00.800 And what they're really talking about is a foreign agent registry.

00:18:03.040 And that's what was on that recording when he was saying, we're going to try to fight back against this, right?

00:18:07.800 We don't want you guys to have to register.

00:18:09.600 And there's probably good reason for that is because all of these people who are fighting back against it might be, you know, subjected to, you know, the specifications within such an act.

00:18:19.700 And they might have to register.

00:18:21.200 But we know that that petition wasn't authored by Senator Wu at all.

00:18:25.460 It was put forward by somebody called Ali Wang.

00:18:28.540 Now, Ali Wang is somebody who has also bombed the Foreign Interference Commission. 0.72

00:18:32.000 She runs something called the Canadian Go-To Vote Association, which is another third party that came out and fought to unseat Kenny Chu and rallied against and rallied for, sorry, Parm Baines.

00:18:47.740 And just to clarify for our viewers, Kenny Chu is a Chinese-Canadian who was against Beijing's control.

00:18:54.300 So the fact that he was ethnically Chinese-Canadian didn't save him because Communist China found him to be an impediment to their aims.

00:19:03.240 Am I right?

00:19:03.720 Am I saying that correctly?

00:19:05.040 I believe that Kenny Chu had to go and that his, they were trying to kill his legislation.

00:19:11.420 And so they threw their weight behind it using, you know, maybe foreign-funded or foreign-affiliated media outlets, platforms where a lot of people don't go.

00:19:21.600 We know that British Columbia has a very large Chinese population.

00:19:25.460 And for some of them, English isn't their first language.

00:19:28.360 So what they do is they turn to foreign media.

00:19:30.280 And so what do you see on foreign media is maybe you see somebody who's saying this bill is going to be racist.

00:19:36.620 We're going to, you know, make all Chinese citizens register and things like that.

00:19:41.640 And, you know, that puts fear into these citizens and gets them to vote against the person who's putting the legislation forward.

00:19:49.500 You know, and they use the nonprofits and NGOs and there's so much of this.

00:19:53.360 But most of them are interconnected.

00:19:54.660 I mean, Ding Guo knows Ali Wang.

00:19:58.020 They all know Senator Wu, you know, and they all came out with this subtle movement to try to kill a bill being put in place.

00:20:06.620 And that seems to be the, you know, the big push.

00:20:09.280 And there's no doubt that these people are affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:20:15.440 You know, you and I use Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, but a lot of Chinese Canadians use an app called WeChat.

00:20:20.860 And you correct me if I'm wrong.

00:20:21.880 I have an acquaintance who that's where all her news comes from.

00:20:25.400 So she's not following Canadian press.

00:20:28.620 She's not following the CBC.

00:20:30.160 She gets her news in Canada from a Chinese government controlled news app, which does give actual news.

00:20:37.300 But it's always from the Beijing point of view.

00:20:40.080 And when it comes to election time, there's no way that any of that's being registered or monitored by Elections Canada.

00:20:47.500 What do you have to say about WeChat, which is sort of like, it's not just like Twitter.

00:20:55.320 There's a commerce side to it.

00:20:57.940 Like, it's an everything app.

00:21:00.100 A lot of Chinese Canadians, their center of news and information is back in China, isn't it?

00:21:05.720 Yeah.

00:21:06.220 I mean, well, this is the problem with WeChat.

00:21:08.180 And again, it's, you know, it's a resource that a lot of Chinese Canadians use, but it's also very susceptible to influence.

00:21:14.900 And it's been one of the main vehicles where we've seen people who might be backed by the Chinese Communist Party or affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party or affiliated with the United Front Work Department push out pro-Beijing, you know, messaging that is geared towards manipulating.

00:21:32.040 And this is the really insidious part, is that if maybe English isn't your first language and you're looking here, you're being subtly manipulated in your own country by a foreign government.

00:21:44.320 So it's very, very disturbing.

00:21:45.820 It's very, very disturbing when you see politicians back this, as David Eby has done, using Deng Guo as an advisor, because, you know, it's not really a fair playing field.

00:21:57.580 You know, it's not just that you're subject to persuasion.

00:22:04.140 It's that they're spying on you, too.

00:22:06.200 Like all the data that these apps collect on you, it's typically done for commercial purposes on Facebook, on TikTok.

00:22:14.340 If you say something near your phone, you know how you see an ad about that subject later.

00:22:19.460 You think, oh, boy, they're trying to sell me.

00:22:21.260 Well, with WeChat, when the Chinese government is the one collecting everything you say, do, buy, read, click, it's a little more nefarious. 0.51

00:22:31.940 I think it's clear it's spyware, not just propagandaware.

00:22:35.620 It's not just broadcasting.

00:22:37.440 It's receiving info about the users, isn't it?

00:22:42.180 Yeah.

00:22:42.520 I mean, we know that it collects a tremendous amount of material on its users.

00:22:46.600 You know, I use it anonymously, but I have no doubt that they probably know who I am and have all of my information.

00:22:56.700 So, yeah, but it's just kind of, you know, it's so unfortunate because it is, you know, it's a great resource and a lot of Chinese Canadians use it.

00:23:02.940 So, it's really unfortunate to see politicians align themselves with people who may be lobbying for Beijing's best interests and feeding this messaging to Chinese Canadians.

00:23:16.720 And I find it a very, very deplorable tactic and very, very insidious in the way that they're subtly manipulating this population and creating fear and trying to get them to vote for their preferred politician.

00:23:30.440 That, of course, they benefit from if they win, right?

00:23:33.920 Yeah.

00:23:34.640 Well, that's the thing.

00:23:35.740 Trudeau loves China's interference, not only electoral, which helped give them MPs, but financial. 0.64

00:23:43.200 Hey, I got one last question for you.

00:23:46.080 In the last couple of weeks, Trudeau has really ramped up his diplomatic war with India.

00:23:51.800 And there may be some reason to object to India's conduct in Canada.

00:23:55.260 I don't know the fact of it, but there are claims that India has committed extraterritorial assassinations in Canada.

00:24:03.380 They would say they would deny it.

00:24:05.340 And if pressed, they might say, well, we're harboring certain violent terrorists here.

00:24:09.820 But without getting into the substance of it, it's sort of shocking how Trudeau has declared a full diplomatic war on India

00:24:17.220 and had his senior intelligence advisor leak confidential material to the Washington Post,

00:24:24.220 basically to try to get not just America, but the media on side with this war against India.

00:24:32.120 I don't think the Americans have joined it.

00:24:34.380 What do you make about that?

00:24:35.740 I mean, I like, this is the first time ever that Justin Trudeau has stood up for Canadian sovereignty against foreign interference.

00:24:41.780 But I don't take it at face value.

00:24:43.940 I think it was an attempt to distract from his own caucus dissension.

00:24:49.020 And I think he'd rather talk about India, which may be, than talk about China.

00:24:53.740 What do you think?

00:24:55.620 Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's the look of squirrel of politics.

00:24:59.520 He was set to testify, you know, at the Foreign Interference Commission.

00:25:04.280 So he had to give something to sort of distract from that and, you know, try to take away from the seriousness of what transpired under his governments.

00:25:15.900 Which, I mean, you know, we've had some national security advisors say it's close to treason.

00:25:22.960 You know, we've got some people saying silence is complicity at this point.

00:25:27.480 So I do, and I don't want to underplay any, you know, anything that India's government might have done on Canadian soil.

00:25:34.020 And I don't advocate for that, you know, if that's what transpired.

00:25:38.700 And, of course, we saw that leaking intelligence is fine if you're doing it to a United States media outlet like the Washington Post.

00:25:46.460 Apparently then intelligence can be declassified in a heartbeat and leaked out to try to detract from what's going on in your own country.

00:25:54.860 So, you know, I think that that was the political stint that, you know, he wanted it to be.

00:26:03.320 And it did take a little bit of heat off him and, you know, gave them time to ramp up this security clearance thing about Pierre.

00:26:10.380 But, again, that's been disproved.

00:26:13.520 He's able to declassify that intelligence and share it with us.

00:26:16.920 And CSIS, that's written into the CSIS Act, that threat reduction measures can be performed under Section 12.1.

00:26:24.640 Anybody can be briefed if CSIS determines that that needs to be done using that provision in the Act.

00:26:32.040 So, yeah, I mean, you know, as for Ebi and this, so, I mean, we know that Rise Media used their platform and, you know, the official agent of the NDP authorized advertisements and attack ads against the BC conservatives on Rise Media.

00:26:50.520 You know, so, again, a huge conflict of interest there if he's got Ding Guo sitting on his board of advisors, even more unsavory given the background into Rise Media.

00:27:01.500 Some of the interference activities that they've performed in the past, which may have resulted, may have resulted in conservative Kenny Chu losing his seat because of his private members legislation.

00:27:13.180 But, you know, they've got a good game and nobody's going to stop them until people call them out on it.

00:27:19.860 Ding Guo put out a very clear, and I can send you this, an article as to how they can target six or seven key districts and use those Chinese voters to swing the election.

00:27:30.840 And that's all it would have taken.

00:27:32.440 I'm not going to say that that happened and that this election wasn't free and fair.

00:27:36.660 But, you know, again, I find it's a highly manipulative practice that they're using.

00:27:41.940 There's no way that David Eby isn't aware of it.

00:27:45.060 This has been brought up.

00:27:47.320 And it's not going to stop until we get some legislation, you know, asking these people respectfully.

00:27:53.540 We're not even saying that you can't do that.

00:27:56.360 Right.

00:27:56.980 We're not being unreasonable saying you can't perform these activities.

00:27:59.640 All we want to know is where your activities come from.

00:28:03.100 Are you affiliated with a foreign government?

00:28:05.000 And tell us about that.

00:28:06.220 Right.

00:28:06.420 Let's talk to transparency as to who's putting out advertising and things like that.

00:28:11.940 And rallying and lobbying on behalf of a foreign interest in our own country.

00:28:16.200 Right.

00:28:16.980 Until we stick up for ourselves, this is going to continue.

00:28:20.800 Andy, we've got to leave it there.

00:28:21.940 Great to see you again.

00:28:22.760 Andy Lee, what's the best place for people to follow your work?

00:28:25.680 Is it on Twitter?

00:28:27.340 Yeah, it's on Twitter.

00:28:28.500 So I'm the real Andy Lee show.

00:28:30.500 I also run a sub stack, which I apologize for.

00:28:34.160 I have been badly neglecting and have to catch up.

00:28:37.220 But that's called Sleeping with Giants because we're in bed with the Chinese Communist Party. 0.84

00:28:41.240 Great to see you again.

00:28:42.160 Thanks for your research.

00:28:43.080 You and Sam Cooper are really saving the day.

00:28:45.260 And hopefully others will join the battle.

00:28:47.360 Good luck, Andy.

00:28:48.620 Yeah, thank you.

00:28:49.920 Right on.

00:28:50.440 There you have it, Andy Lee.

00:28:52.220 Well, that's our show for today.

00:28:54.160 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:28:58.600 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:29:00.800 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - November 01, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Chinese spies exposed in election interference scandal, including Trudeau minister

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