Rebel News Podcast - January 31, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ David Lametti reinstates government Twitter account after being sued by Rebel News

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martial law invocation David Lamedi Twitter account resurrection Lamedi suit
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Justin Trudeau David Lamedi David Lamenti Steven Guilbeault Ryan O'Connor Pride Toronto Tom Hopper Sue Ann Ezra Douglas MacArthur Mitchell Erickson Chad Williamson Robert Krejcik David Menzies Niagara Falls Andrew Lawton Laith Marouf Mary Ottoman John Tory Rick Salata and 7 more
EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau Liberals lose another court battle in bid to censor Canadians EZRA LEVANT ｜ Alberta Premier Danielle Smith brings in a sensitive, sensible policy on transgenderism — and the left goes nuts

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Rebel News has an update on the court hearing in our lawsuit against David Lamedi, the former Trudeau Justice Minister, and a reminder of why we're doing things no one else in the whole country is doing, and why it matters.

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00:00:00.040 Hello, my friends. I want to give you an update on last night's court hearing in our lawsuit
00:00:05.780 against David Lamedi, the former Trudeau Justice Minister. I think it's going really well. I can't
00:00:10.180 even believe how well it's going. I thought we'd have an uphill battle, but holy cow, did we catch
00:00:16.100 the guy with his hand in the cookie jar? I want you to see what we're up to. But first, let me
00:00:20.140 invite you to get a subscription to what we call Rebel News Plus. It's eight bucks a month. You
00:00:24.860 get the video version of this podcast, which I think is worth eight bucks. But more than
00:00:29.580 that, you're helping Rebel News stay alive. We are doing things like this Lamedi lawsuit
00:00:34.060 that no one else in the whole country is doing. Not the official opposition, not public interest
00:00:38.580 law firms, not other media. We caught the guy sneaking out, and it's sort of amazing. Go
00:00:44.940 to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe. Thanks very much. Here's today's podcast.
00:00:54.860 Tonight, David Lamedi's lawyers reinstate his government Twitter account just days after
00:01:10.700 being sued by Rebel News. But we're not done yet. It's January 30th, and this is the Ezra
00:01:15.600 LeVant Show. Shame on you, you censorious bug. I've got news for you. Yesterday, from 4 till
00:01:34.720 5 p.m., after I had taped my show yesterday, I sat in on an emergency court hearing in the
00:01:41.620 matter of Rebel News v. David Lamedi, the former Trudeau justice minister. It's a lawsuit that we
00:01:47.940 filed, if you can believe it, on Saturday. And we served it on the government on Sunday, and we had
00:01:54.660 an emergency first hearing called a case management hearing on Monday at 4 p.m. That's moving pretty
00:02:01.060 quickly, if you ask me. I didn't even know you could file things like that on a weekend.
00:02:05.160 The judge was a pretty senior guy. Justice Simon Fothergill is his name. He said he hadn't had the
00:02:13.480 chance to read all the material that we had filed, but his purpose yesterday was limited to putting
00:02:19.260 things on a schedule to manage the case, as they say. And the main thing we were looking for was an
00:02:24.760 emergency order to preserve the government records in Lamedi's possession. I'll tell you how that went
00:02:30.280 in a moment, but please let me give you a proper update on the background, because it's really
00:02:35.640 happened so quickly. I want to make sure you understand why we're doing what we're doing, why it's
00:02:39.500 important. More is happening every day, it seems. So give me just five minutes to refresh your memory about why
00:02:45.740 we're doing this. Last week was a disaster for Justin Trudeau and the Liberals in a stunning, unequivocal,
00:02:51.500 devastating court ruling. The Federal Court of Canada goes through the Emergencies Act, and how it was
00:02:57.780 invoked by Trudeau two years ago to stop the truckers, and how it was used, and clearly ruled that what
00:03:05.520 Trudeau did was illegal. Canada was actually not at risk of serious violence in the nature of a revolution
00:03:13.080 or an invasion or something on an existential level like that, which is necessary for the invocation of martial law.
00:03:19.660 Current authorities have enough power in existing laws to deal with any problems, and those problems were, to be
00:03:25.740 clear, horn honking, and some traffic and parking violations. There was no violence. There was no
00:03:31.440 insurrection. They didn't even really get out of their trucks. It was no January 6th moment, though
00:03:37.460 Trudeau really wished it was. The bridge between Windsor and Detroit was blocked for, I don't know, a day.
00:03:45.680 Regular police cleared it without an incident. The border between Coots, Alberta, and Sweetgrass, Montana
00:03:50.880 was blocked for a few days, but it too was ended without incident. Both of those were resolved before
00:03:57.080 the invocation of martial law, which obviously proves that martial law was not needed, which is one of the
00:04:02.860 requirements for the Emergencies Act. Here, let me read to you Section 3 of the Emergencies Act, just so
00:04:09.840 you can see with your own eyes the law that Trudeau clearly broke. I'm just going to quote the law. It's in
00:04:15.420 plain English, national emergency. For the purposes of this act, a national emergency is an urgent and
00:04:24.000 critical situation of a temporary nature that, A, seriously endangers the lives, health, or safety
00:04:31.420 of Canadians, and yet is of such proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a
00:04:39.400 province to deal with it. That didn't happen. Or, B, seriously threatens the ability of the government
00:04:48.000 of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security, and territorial integrity of Canada, and that cannot
00:04:53.940 be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada. That's all you need to know.
00:05:01.300 Pretty clear, and pretty clear Trudeau didn't meet either of those tests. Trudeau, as usual,
00:05:05.060 is a coward when the crunch comes. When the truckers came to Ottawa two years ago, Trudeau claimed he had 0.96
00:05:11.080 COVID and went into hiding. Last week, when the federal court issued this ruling, he went into
00:05:16.420 hiding again, sending out Chrystia Freeland to take the heat for it. She said the government was going 1.00
00:05:22.180 to appeal this ruling. Good luck with that. But the world saw what happened. No wonder Trudeau is an
00:05:27.200 all-time low in the polls. No one believes him on anything anymore. By the way, even his own base hates him.
00:05:35.060 I think he has two bases left politically. He's got journalists and civil servants, I guess. Same
00:05:41.580 thing. And then he has pro-Hamas voters. Did you see this clip? Apparently, this is outside a mosque
00:05:46.540 in Montreal that he was visiting, of course. And when he came out, even mosque members hate him. No wonder 0.98
00:05:52.480 he takes in as many foreign trips as he can. Canadians of all stripes love them. He just likes to go to
00:05:57.940 Jamaica. Remember this clip? Shame, shame, Trudeau! Shame, shame, Trudeau! Shame, shame, Trudeau!
00:06:12.160 Shame on you! 1.00
00:06:25.280 Shame on you! 1.00
00:06:38.240 Shame on you! 1.00
00:06:39.240 Shame on you! 1.00
00:06:40.240 Shame on you! 1.00
00:06:41.240 Shame on you! 1.00
00:06:42.240 Cowards! 1.00
00:06:43.240 Free! 0.99
00:06:44.240 Free!
00:06:45.240 Free! 1.00
00:06:46.240 You guys are cowards! 1.00
00:06:47.240 They're all in there! 1.00
00:06:48.240 They're all in there!
00:06:49.240 By the way, the RCMP arrested and assaulted David Menzies for less than those people did
00:06:53.240 to Trudeau there.
00:06:54.240 Of course, it's the Prime Minister's job to decide whether or not to invoke the Emergencies
00:06:59.240 Act, so it's a momentous decision really akin to declaring war on your own people.
00:07:03.240 It would be one of the most grave decisions a government could possibly make.
00:07:07.240 He would be advised by different people, by police, by the military, by national security
00:07:11.240 advisors, but at the end of the day, it would be the Prime Minister's chief legal officer
00:07:17.240 who would assess the law and ensure the government acted accordingly, and he would give advice
00:07:22.240 to Trudeau, go or don't go.
00:07:24.240 And that advisor, that lawyer, is David Lemeny, the Justice Minister at the time.
00:07:29.240 He's the one who was supposed to look at the Emergencies Act and said, yeah, that horn honking
00:07:35.240 is loud, and those truckers are embarrassing my partisan team, so I'm going to ring a martial
00:07:42.240 law alarm that has never been rung before, not even on 9-11.
00:07:46.240 I'm going to break the glass and call 9-1-1.
00:07:48.240 It's the worst thing that has ever happened to Canada, this horn honking.
00:07:52.240 And what's the line from the law?
00:07:55.240 Seriously threatens the ability of the government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security,
00:07:59.240 and territorial integrity of Canada.
00:08:01.240 What was it, the bouncy castles that did it, or was it the hot tub that did it?
00:08:05.240 Hmm.
00:08:06.240 And David Lemeny said, yeah, sure boss, no problem, we'll just use this very special
00:08:11.240 law that's never been used before.
00:08:13.240 If you recall two years ago, Lemeny claimed he had a secret legal opinion, he wouldn't
00:08:20.240 tell us who wrote it, that justified invoking martial law.
00:08:24.240 Sure he does, you bet he does.
00:08:27.240 It's secret, he won't show us, but it's the proof that he should have done what he did.
00:08:32.240 It's like that old American joke from 100 movies and TV sitcoms.
00:08:37.240 Oh yeah, I have a girlfriend, you just don't know her, because she goes to a different high
00:08:41.240 school in Canada.
00:08:44.240 She lives in Canada.
00:08:46.240 I met her at Niagara Falls.
00:08:48.240 You wouldn't know her. 0.97
00:08:49.240 Yeah, so David Lemeny's a liar.
00:08:51.240 Trudeau fired him a few months ago, even though he lied for Trudeau.
00:08:55.240 He did what Trudeau wanted.
00:08:56.240 He fired him from cabinet, but he still stuck around as an MP.
00:08:59.240 Right after the federal court ruling last week, he finally announced he was resigning.
00:09:03.240 Good riddance.
00:09:04.240 And going to a liberal connected law firm called Faskin Martineau.
00:09:08.240 Here's what they tweeted.
00:09:09.240 Honored to welcome Mr. David Lemeny, former justice minister and attorney general of Canada,
00:09:14.240 to Faskin as counsel.
00:09:15.240 A dedicated advocate for indigenous reconciliation.
00:09:18.240 He's also deeply engaged in emerging technology, particularly artificial intelligence.
00:09:23.240 Yeah.
00:09:24.240 Yeah, he's so into indigenous reconciliation.
00:09:26.240 He stole the justice minister's job away from the first indigenous justice minister in
00:09:30.240 history, Jody Wilson Rabel, because he was willing to interfere in court cases for Trudeau,
00:09:35.240 but she wasn't.
00:09:36.240 But I'm glad to learn that he's interested in artificial intelligence, because I don't think
00:09:41.240 he's shown a lot of natural intelligence to you.
00:09:44.240 As you know, as he was skulking away, as he quit parliament, he thought he would do one
00:09:50.240 last disgraceful act and destroy all of his official state records on Twitter by pressing
00:09:55.240 delete on his government Twitter account.
00:09:58.240 I've been down this Twitter road before.
00:10:00.240 I'm not sure if it's something to brag about, but I think I've sued more politicians for
00:10:04.240 misconduct on Twitter than anyone else in Canada.
00:10:06.240 The main lawsuit was against Stephen Gilboa, the execrable environment minister, that shifty 0.70
00:10:12.240 little criminal. 0.91
00:10:13.240 He's a convicted criminal, as you know.
00:10:15.240 Because he blocked Rebel News on Twitter, thus denying our reporters access to important
00:10:20.240 government announcements, as well as our ability to interact with the minister and other
00:10:24.240 Twitter followers.
00:10:25.240 And here's the key point of why I mentioned that lawsuit that ended in Gilboa's abject
00:10:30.240 surrender and this consent agreement.
00:10:32.240 He agreed never to block us again for the rest of his career.
00:10:35.240 He agreed to pay us $20,000 in court costs, even though he forced taxpayers to pay that
00:10:40.240 for him.
00:10:41.240 But here's the key point.
00:10:42.240 For two years, Stephen Gilboa and the government of Canada's lawyers argued that Gilboa could
00:10:48.240 block whomever he wanted from his government Twitter account because it was actually his own
00:10:53.240 private personal property, they claimed.
00:10:56.240 That's what they argued for two years, even though his Twitter account had that official
00:11:00.240 gray checkmark that comes from being a verified government account.
00:11:04.240 And more obviously, it was run by two dozen civil servants using taxpayers' resources.
00:11:09.240 So if that was the government's position for two full years, argued loudly and proudly in court,
00:11:15.240 how on earth could we possibly trust David Lamedi not to destroy government records pertaining to his
00:11:21.240 role as justice minister, especially and importantly, right as the federal court ruled that the
00:11:27.240 Emergencies Act invocation was illegal and thus opening up the government and Lamedi to hundreds of
00:11:32.240 lawsuits from people who had their bank accounts frozen.
00:11:35.240 So we had this hearing yesterday at 4 p.m.
00:11:38.240 Eastern time.
00:11:39.240 As I mentioned in my emergency live stream yesterday, a couple hours before that, Lamedi
00:11:45.240 had reinstated his Twitter account in response to our lawsuit.
00:11:50.240 Which is incredible when you think about it.
00:11:52.240 He didn't fight.
00:11:53.240 He didn't defend what he did.
00:11:55.240 We just caught him with his hand in the cookie jar.
00:11:58.240 He said, oh, you got me.
00:11:59.240 Before he even spoke to us, he reinstated it.
00:12:02.240 Which is pretty incredible when you think about it, how hard Gilboa fought for two years.
00:12:06.240 But like I say, who could trust a liberal politician?
00:12:10.240 Would you trust David Lamedi for anything?
00:12:12.240 If he said it was raining, I would go outside to check.
00:12:14.240 I wouldn't believe him.
00:12:16.240 Especially a liberal as slippery as Lamedi, who was willing to sell out the whole country.
00:12:21.240 We need a court order ensuring that he doesn't take it down again tomorrow or next week or
00:12:28.240 next year.
00:12:29.240 And to make sure that he doesn't go in selectively delete anything, including private direct messages
00:12:34.240 to other cabinet ministers that we haven't even been allowed to see yet.
00:12:38.240 Those private messages may well come out during the lawsuits that are bound to be filed
00:12:42.240 against Lamedi.
00:12:44.240 So the hearing yesterday was almost an hour long.
00:12:47.240 And it was interesting because it was only about whether or not the court would move
00:12:52.240 on an emergency basis to grant a temporary order freezing the Twitter account until we
00:12:58.240 have time to have a proper legal battle in court on the substance of it.
00:13:02.240 And the judge yesterday was certainly open to the idea.
00:13:05.240 At least that's how it seemed to me.
00:13:07.240 He said, though, that he wanted to give Lamedi a few more days to hire a personal lawyer,
00:13:11.240 not just the government lawyer who was standing in yesterday.
00:13:14.240 But if you've seen our lawsuit at StopTheCoverUp.com, you know that the two plaintiffs are me
00:13:20.240 and Rebel News and the two defendants are Lamedi himself and Lamedi as the representative
00:13:26.240 of the government of Canada.
00:13:27.240 So he needs a personal lawyer, too.
00:13:29.240 So Lamedi says he hasn't had a chance to get a personal lawyer yet.
00:13:32.240 So the judge is giving him until Friday at 4 p.m., at which time we'll have another case
00:13:37.240 management hearing.
00:13:38.240 This is, you know, how lawyers...
00:13:40.240 This is...
00:13:41.240 Welcome to lawyering.
00:13:42.240 The government lawyer tried to argue that no interim injunction is necessary now.
00:13:47.240 No special court order freezing things because, look, they've already complied voluntarily
00:13:51.240 already.
00:13:52.240 And I suppose in one sense it's true, but of course that could change in a heartbeat.
00:13:57.240 I don't trust the liberals and I don't think you do either.
00:14:00.240 I don't think many people do.
00:14:01.240 But it was exciting and it was encouraging and it was affirming to know a few things.
00:14:07.240 Here, I made a short list.
00:14:08.240 Number one, we made Lamedi blink. 1.00
00:14:12.240 We made him reinstate his Twitter account, or at least it looks that way.
00:14:16.240 Number two, we made a judge take this seriously enough that he's having case management hearings
00:14:21.240 about it, including scheduling another one quickly for Friday.
00:14:25.240 Number three, it really looks like either through a trial and a judgment or what's called a
00:14:31.240 consent order where the bad guys just agree to a kind of plea bargain, looks like Lamedi
00:14:37.240 actually might just agree to everything we're asking for in regards to his Twitter account.
00:14:43.240 I mean, we caught him red-handed.
00:14:45.240 Now, there are some other things we're asking for in the lawsuit, but the Twitter thing was
00:14:48.240 the main thing, the thing that got us going.
00:14:51.240 Of course, all this is important.
00:14:55.240 Number four, because no politician should be allowed to destroy public records.
00:15:00.240 You'd hope they would follow the law because the public ought to be able to see the public
00:15:05.240 records of a cabinet administrator and because anyone who needs access to those records for
00:15:09.240 lawsuits or other reasons ought to be able to get them in the future through the normal
00:15:13.240 processes, including the hundreds of pending lawsuits.
00:15:16.240 It's wrong for someone to destroy records.
00:15:18.240 It's against the law, too, by the way.
00:15:21.240 So we'll see how this all goes.
00:15:23.240 I'm full of confidence.
00:15:24.240 We've beaten four other cabinet ministers in our Twitter lawsuits already.
00:15:28.240 I'm happy to fight a fifth.
00:15:30.240 I think we've got a winning team of lawyers and we've got an open-minded judge.
00:15:34.240 I feel like we're actually really doing things in the public interest, things that should be done,
00:15:39.240 but no one else thought to do it.
00:15:41.240 And if they thought to do it, they didn't quite know how to do it.
00:15:44.240 And even if they knew how to do it, they couldn't do it for whatever reason.
00:15:47.240 We had the idea.
00:15:48.240 We had the lawyers led by Chad Williamson.
00:15:50.240 We had the viewers to support the campaign through crowdfunding.
00:15:54.240 I feel like we made a real difference.
00:15:56.240 Let me show you this tweet by Ryan O'Connor, a freedom-oriented lawyer in the greater Toronto area.
00:16:04.240 He says,
00:16:05.240 Fascinating to return to former Attorney General David Lamedi's posts about the Emergencies Act from 2022,
00:16:12.240 during which he insisted that his invocation of the act respected the charter,
00:16:16.240 after the federal court held last week that some emergency orders were unconstitutional.
00:16:22.240 And you can see that he has a thread of tweets.
00:16:26.240 Ryan O'Connor is a good guy.
00:16:28.240 He goes through Lamedi's statements from two years ago about the Emergencies Act
00:16:34.240 and compares them immediately with the lawsuit.
00:16:38.240 Don't you think that's an important exercise to compare what Lamedi said to what the court said?
00:16:43.240 And look at O'Connor's last tweet in that interesting thread.
00:16:47.240 This made me feel good.
00:16:48.240 He said,
00:16:49.240 You'll note that David Lamedi's Twitter account has been resurrected.
00:16:52.240 This was a direct response to an urgent lawsuit which Rebel News brought last weekend in Rebel vs. Lamedi,
00:16:59.240 and is an important temporary win for government transparency.
00:17:03.240 Exactly.
00:17:04.240 It is an important temporary win.
00:17:06.240 And we're looking to make it a permanent win,
00:17:09.240 either in a plea deal with Lamedi called a consent order
00:17:12.240 or by smashing away at him in the court for two years, which I sort of want to do,
00:17:16.240 which is what we did with Stephen Gilboa.
00:17:18.240 I'm just not sure that David Lamedi,
00:17:21.240 who wants to skulk away to a private law firm and be done with Parliament,
00:17:25.240 I'm just not sure he wants a two-year legal battle hanging over him.
00:17:28.240 I think there's a real chance he'll just sign the plea bargain,
00:17:31.240 take a consent order like his fellow Twitter lawbreakers,
00:17:34.240 and move on and never show his face in public again.
00:17:37.240 What a disgraceful way for a disgraceful minister to end a disgraceful public career.
00:17:43.240 I have to wonder if it was worth it for him.
00:17:46.240 I'm proud that Rebel News, with the support of our viewers,
00:17:49.240 was able to make a difference.
00:17:50.240 I think we really did.
00:17:52.240 Hey, can you imagine?
00:17:54.240 We haven't even got the legal bill for the lawsuit yet.
00:17:57.240 And it's not going to be light.
00:17:59.240 Three of our lawyers worked on it all weekend.
00:18:02.240 If you want to help us out, because we're not done yet, by the way,
00:18:05.240 we got this hearing on Friday,
00:18:07.240 please go to StopTheCoverUp.com, because that's exactly what we're doing.
00:18:14.240 Stay with us for more.
00:18:15.240 Well, it seems to be a bit of a pattern.
00:18:29.240 Three quarters of the money spent, taxpayers' dollars,
00:18:32.240 by the federal government on the Arrive Can app.
00:18:34.240 No one can see where the money went.
00:18:36.240 Boy, they billed by the tens of millions.
00:18:39.240 But the work simply wasn't done.
00:18:41.240 It was pocketed.
00:18:43.240 We see a lot of that going on.
00:18:45.240 Leith Maroof, the viciously anti-Semitic and racist activist who was hired by Trudeau to do anti-racism workshops.
00:18:55.240 But he still has not disgorged the hundreds of thousands of dollars that he pocketed.
00:18:59.240 And here is the latest.
00:19:01.240 Unbelievable.
00:19:02.240 The Toronto Gay Pride Parade, which has taken millions of dollars in taxpayer money.
00:19:08.240 Well, surprise, they didn't do the things that they took the money to do.
00:19:13.240 But instead of prosecuting them for theft, the government's just begging,
00:19:17.240 pretty please, can we have our money back that you took from us under fraudulent conditions?
00:19:23.240 Oh, it must be nice to be a liberal.
00:19:25.240 If you get away with it, you're home free.
00:19:27.240 And if you're caught, well, maybe they'll ask politely for it back.
00:19:31.240 And whether or not you give it back is sort of up to you.
00:19:35.240 Joining us now is the reporter who first broke the lid on this story years ago
00:19:42.240 by talking about malfeasance of Pride Toronto.
00:19:45.240 And she writes for True North.
00:19:47.240 And her latest essay is called Pride Toronto Cashed Grant Checks Without Delivering Honest Provences.
00:19:52.240 And Levy, great to see you again.
00:19:54.240 Hi there, Ezra.
00:19:55.240 It's great to see you.
00:19:56.240 Well, you know, you were way ahead of your time on this because you called out financial shenanigans in Pride Toronto years ago.
00:20:04.240 And they just called you names.
00:20:06.240 They called you, you know, and that's typical of the woke left.
00:20:10.240 Give us the facts.
00:20:11.240 What happened at Pride Toronto?
00:20:13.240 What kind of an organization is it?
00:20:14.240 What did they get the money for?
00:20:16.240 And what did they do or not do?
00:20:19.240 Well, Pride Toronto was a train wreck years ago.
00:20:22.240 And it really started, Ezra, in 2016.
00:20:26.240 Do you remember Black Lives Matter?
00:20:28.240 They sat down at the intersection of Young and Gerard and refused to go any further unless Pride met their demands.
00:20:36.240 From that day forward, the police were banned from the parade.
00:20:39.240 They lost a ton, a ton of money.
00:20:42.240 And I remember showing up at meetings and being called all kinds of names, even though I'm gay, too. 0.95
00:20:49.240 But evidently you can't be an accountable gay. 1.00
00:20:51.240 You just have to go along with the flow. 0.97
00:20:53.240 So I knew it was an accident waiting to happen.
00:20:56.240 And the last I left them was in, I guess, in 2020, just a year before I retired from the sun.
00:21:04.240 And they had this outrageous AGM.
00:21:08.240 And I had written about allegations of improprieties.
00:21:13.240 They had this outrageous AGM where certain board members installed themselves on the board, just put themselves on like they're, you know, kings and queens for the day.
00:21:23.240 You should pardon the expression.
00:21:25.240 And Michael Erickson, who owns Gladday Bookshop, headed up this meeting where they wouldn't answer any questions.
00:21:34.240 They screamed and yelled at people.
00:21:36.240 They said that I was my articles were full of trash and they wouldn't address the improprieties. 0.93
00:21:43.240 They let the clock run out.
00:21:44.240 And lo and behold, here we find out that they took two point eight million dollars in grants just from the feds.
00:21:52.240 OK, this is not the province.
00:21:54.240 This is not the city because the city gives them a sizable cash gift every year of about two hundred thousand.
00:22:00.240 They took this money.
00:22:02.240 They promised all kinds of deliverables.
00:22:04.240 And guess what?
00:22:05.240 They didn't deliver probably anything.
00:22:08.240 They because they had lost money.
00:22:10.240 And I'm trying to connect the dots myself because they had lost so much money when they banned the police from the parade.
00:22:19.240 They they used the grant money to pay staff salaries and to pay contractors to keep them as a going concern, which is just fraudulent.
00:22:30.240 Absolutely fraudulent.
00:22:31.240 That is fraud.
00:22:32.240 I mean, if you and I did that, we would not just be asked nicely return the money.
00:22:36.240 We most likely would be prosecuted for fraud here.
00:22:38.240 Let me quote from your article.
00:22:39.240 There were three separate grants, one million dollars from Public Safety Canada to develop better relations with the police.
00:22:46.240 But then you say the one million dollar grant came with the agreement to allow police back into the parade.
00:22:52.240 But in January of 2019, Pride members voted 163 to 161 to renege on the agreement and uphold the ban.
00:23:01.240 All right.
00:23:02.240 But they kept them.
00:23:03.240 They kept the money.
00:23:04.240 That's sort of the money.
00:23:06.240 Yeah. 0.60
00:23:07.240 And the excuse was, well, I was at that meeting, actually, and I thought, they're crazy. 0.98
00:23:11.240 These people are crazy. 0.98
00:23:12.240 And they had all these radical lefty queer people, you know, saying no police. 0.98
00:23:18.240 And it was around the time that Douglas MacArthur had been found out in the serial killings.
00:23:25.240 And they used that as an excuse not to establish relations with the police.
00:23:30.240 Yeah.
00:23:31.240 And remember, John Tory was mayor and I think he did a piss poor job, a very weak job of trying to bring everybody together.
00:23:37.240 And and so it continued.
00:23:39.240 The police were banned and they have been banned to this day.
00:23:42.240 Yeah.
00:23:43.240 You know, there was a time when I think police forces were inherently adverse to gay people.
00:23:51.240 I mean, the vice squads that would raid the bath houses and whatnot.
00:23:56.240 And and I suppose it was the same with other minority groups in the past.
00:24:02.240 Mm hmm.
00:24:03.240 But I would think that in the 2020s, having police, especially police in uniform, attend gay gay pride parades is something that gay activists would want.
00:24:16.240 Not only to make contacts in the police department in case they need help with something, but to show.
00:24:23.240 If I was a gay activist, I would want to show the normalization of the gay community and how that in 2020 they're allied with the police and the police will help them if necessary to turn against the police.
00:24:36.240 I don't know how that helps.
00:24:38.240 Like, I just don't get how that helps the gay community. 1.00
00:24:41.240 And what I think what it is, is it's it's putting other agendas ahead of the gay agenda. 0.69
00:24:48.240 I mean, listen, I'm not I'm not part of the gay community. 0.99
00:24:52.240 But they were perfectly perfectly hypocritical. 0.99
00:24:55.240 This is the thing that drove me crazy. 0.95
00:24:57.240 They were perfectly fine with having the police do the security for the parade so they could stand outside the actual parade march.
00:25:05.240 And again, I was there covering it and they were perfectly fine with that giving free policing.
00:25:11.240 And it amounted to a sizable amount.
00:25:14.240 We don't even talk about that grant.
00:25:16.240 That was, you know, donations in kind, which would have been about a million and a half for that one day.
00:25:22.240 They're OK with that.
00:25:24.240 But gay officers, lesbian officers couldn't march in the parade. 1.00
00:25:29.240 That's crazy.
00:25:31.240 I mean, that that's discrimination.
00:25:33.240 I mean, that's anti-inclusion.
00:25:35.240 Let me read another paragraph from your essay.
00:25:37.240 By the way, folks can find it at TNC dot news, where we love True North, where I recently spent some time at the World Economic Forum with your colleague, Andrew Lawton.
00:25:47.240 He's a really good egg.
00:25:48.240 Let me read.
00:25:49.240 He's a sweetie.
00:25:50.240 Let me read this line.
00:25:51.240 I thought this was very interesting.
00:25:53.240 Another one million dollar grant from the Federal Economic Development Agency.
00:25:58.240 If you told me they were created to give grants to pride parades, I wouldn't have believed you.
00:26:03.240 Was not studied by KPMG, but is thoroughly documented in an independent review by Pride Toronto member and York University ethics professor Tom Hooper.
00:26:14.240 Hooper put together his extremely comprehensive review at pridegrants.ca.
00:26:20.240 He alleged fraud and forgery.
00:26:23.240 I mean, so again, he's a member of the gay community.
00:26:27.240 He's an out and about gay man. 0.52
00:26:29.240 He's a professor.
00:26:30.240 He's an ethics professor.
00:26:31.240 He's part of the Pride movement. 0.97
00:26:32.240 He's and he's saying this, you know, just because you're a gay racist, you're not doing the anti-police. 0.96
00:26:38.240 And he's alleged. 0.98
00:26:39.240 I mean, forgery in a financial context is a crime.
00:26:42.240 Well, they forged.
00:26:44.240 I mean, it was outrageous.
00:26:45.240 They forged signatures from the Toronto District School Board, the Peel District School Board, the Assembly of First Nations, saying that, you know, these people were going after grants and that they supported the grants.
00:26:59.240 I mean, I couldn't be that creative.
00:27:02.240 You know, it was just I guess they were just so desperate for money and so desperate to keep going as a going concern.
00:27:10.240 You know, as when I covered pride and I did it fairly extensively and covered their financials, there were so many people who said they should be cut off from government funding.
00:27:20.240 It's just a recipe for disaster.
00:27:22.240 And as we see, it has become one.
00:27:24.240 Well, any organization that gets money from government does a few things.
00:27:29.240 First of all, they ignore their real constituents and pay attention on the grant giver.
00:27:34.240 In a journalistic context, that would mean you would ignore your readers and viewers and you would pay attention to what the politicians want.
00:27:40.240 That's a terrible thing for a journalistic organization.
00:27:43.240 And it would be a terrible thing for an advocacy group because you would do all sorts of strange things.
00:27:47.240 And you would bend all sorts of, I don't know, it's just a really bad thing.
00:27:52.240 But I can't help but think if instead of being a gay pride group, if this were a Christian organization or something that was less politically correct and forgery and fraud and grants taken for one purpose but used for another, this would be big news. 0.55
00:28:08.240 And it wouldn't fall to just independent journalists like yourself.
00:28:11.240 This would be front page.
00:28:12.240 Like I could just imagine if some, I don't know, Canadian Council of Bishops or something was found to have stolen money.
00:28:19.240 Right.
00:28:20.240 That would be front page of the Globe and Mail.
00:28:21.240 But this, well, you know, we don't want to make a fuss.
00:28:25.240 Can you please, pretty please just give the money back or at least some of it.
00:28:28.240 Like I can't believe they're only asking for half a million dollars back when the whole million dollars was to get a deal with police.
00:28:36.240 This is crazy.
00:28:38.240 And there's so many levels here.
00:28:40.240 It's the financial waste.
00:28:41.240 It's the lack of give a damn by auditors or police.
00:28:46.240 And, of course, it's the wokeness of it all.
00:28:48.240 Last word to you, Sue Ann.
00:28:50.240 Well, you know, the professor, Tom Hooper, went so far as to say on his website, and I urge your listeners and your viewers to go on his website because he was very thorough.
00:29:03.240 He said that KPMG or anyone else did not study the fraud or forgery or investigate.
00:29:11.240 And to me, that is the real issue that this organization has been allowed to do all these things, as you say.
00:29:19.240 And the government's saying, oh, pretty, please give us a few dollars back.
00:29:23.240 Yeah.
00:29:24.240 Unbelievable.
00:29:25.240 Well, Sue Ann, we like your journalism.
00:29:26.240 We like True North.
00:29:27.240 Great to see you again.
00:29:28.240 Thank you.
00:29:29.240 Keep up the fight.
00:29:30.240 And we look forward to talking to you again soon.
00:29:31.240 Thank you.
00:29:32.240 Sure.
00:29:33.240 Thank you.
00:29:34.240 From our friends at True North.
00:29:35.240 Stay with us.
00:29:36.240 Your letters to me, next.
00:29:49.240 Hey, welcome back.
00:29:50.240 Your letters to me about my interview with Robert Krejcik at the beginning of the sort of politically rigged inquiry into foreign influence.
00:29:59.240 Mary Ottoman says, the judge must be independent and chosen by Canadian taxpayers.
00:30:05.240 Well, this is just like what Trudeau did with Judge Rollo, who did this sort of half real, half fake cover-up inquiry a year ago and said, Trudeau's A-OK.
00:30:19.240 Well, then we had a real judge last week say, no, he's not.
00:30:22.240 Same sort of stitch up here.
00:30:24.240 Rock Salt says, Trudeau has figured what many Ontarians already know when making inquiries about accessing their health care system.
00:30:32.240 If you don't get the answer you want, call back the next day.
00:30:35.240 Chances are you'll get a different person with a different answer.
00:30:38.240 It looks like politicians have the same approach when looking for a judge.
00:30:41.240 Yeah. I mean, and this judge is off to a terrible start, granting full intervener status to people like Han Dong, who have been accused of being in league with foreign governments, but only giving limited intervener status to the official opposition.
00:30:54.240 It's, as they say in the UK, a stitch up.
00:30:58.240 Well, that's the show for today. I'm sort of excited how this whole Lamedi suit is going.
00:31:02.240 I don't know what you think of it, but I think we, I think we, we caught the guy driving the getaway car.
00:31:07.240 I think we really did.
00:31:09.240 He was trying to make a hasty exit and no one was stopping him and we did.
00:31:12.240 Anyway, keep following that.
00:31:14.240 Go to StopTheCoverUp.com.
00:31:16.240 You can see our whole lawsuit there.
00:31:18.240 All right.
00:31:19.240 Well, until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:31:28.240 We'll be right back.