Rebel News Podcast - July 09, 2021


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Did you know Canada gives foreign aid to China？

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Something Trudeau Donald Trump Alan Bokhari Wendy Mansley Mark Zuckerberg Ron DeSantis Jack Dorsey Justin Trudeau Brooke Rollins John McCallum Clintons Clinton Frank Giustra Peter Mansbridge Clarence Thomas Michael Spavor Michael Kovrig Linda McMahon Jared Kushner Wendy Mesley and 6 more
SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Alberta Institute Founder Peter McCaffery Holds Big Government To Account DAVID MENZIES ｜ Vietnamese Church Arson, $12k COVID Fine

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Did you know Canada gives foreign aid to China? China? That's how bad things are in China, and here's why: It's because China is the worst country in the world, politically, militarily, economically, and culturally.

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00:00:00.000 Hello my friends, a great story in black locks. That's one of the few independent media left in
00:00:05.460 this country. They go through Canadian foreign aid to China. Did you even know we were sending
00:00:11.520 foreign aid to China? I'll have the details for you from them. Before I get there, let me invite
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00:00:43.260 Tonight, did you know Canada gives foreign aid to China?
00:00:57.300 China? That's how bad things are. It's July 8th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:04.300 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:08.020 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:12.100 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:16.960 right to do so.
00:01:17.940 There aren't a lot of independent media in Canada, but a small company based in Ottawa
00:01:27.580 called BlackLocks.ca is one of them. They're not cheap. A subscription is more than $300 a year,
00:01:34.540 but they're just plain old cover news that others don't. Sometimes it's with real scoops that they
00:01:41.340 root out, but sometimes it's simply by reporting what everyone else is ignoring that's just lying
00:01:46.940 right in plain sight. This is one of those stories. You can see it on their website here.
00:01:52.560 Aid to China is little known, as in foreign aid from Canada.
00:01:58.460 Did you know Canada gives foreign aid to China?
00:02:00.940 China? Depending on how you measure it, China is either the biggest economy in the world or the
00:02:07.320 second biggest economy in the world next only to the United States. They're an authoritarian
00:02:12.280 dictatorship. They're a cruel one-party state. They're militaristic. They threaten their neighbors
00:02:18.520 and the world. They abuse their own citizens, especially ethnic minorities like the Uyghur Muslims, 1.00
00:02:25.100 like Tibetans. They are the worst espionage threat to the West in history. 1.00
00:02:30.200 Far worse than the Soviets. Their spying isn't just military secrets, but commercial 0.94
00:02:35.500 and technological secrets too. Huawei was basically built by hacking into Canada's
00:02:41.420 once-upon-a-time tech giant Nortel. Remember them? China is the worst country in the world, 1.00
00:02:48.740 politically, militarily. North Korea is a hermit kingdom. It's more totalitarian, but smaller. 1.00
00:02:55.120 And it's a colony of China. Iran is more irrational, but it sells oil to China. Somalia and Libya are 0.61
00:03:03.020 failed states, but China is 1.4 billion people. Like the Soviet Union, most of their citizens are 0.98
00:03:09.820 victims. It's really the Chinese Communist Party that is evil. And the victims, the first victims 1.00
00:03:18.420 of the Chinese Communist Party are the Chinese people themselves. But they hate Taiwan. They hate
00:03:26.140 India. They're at war with India. They threaten war against Taiwan. Through their proxy, North Korea, 0.60
00:03:32.480 they threaten war against others, South Korea, Japan. They hate America and they seek to replace it 0.99
00:03:38.940 as the world's dominant power. But lately, the Chinese Communist Party has taken a hatred to Canada too.
00:03:47.320 Because if you can believe that, Justin Trudeau is just not obedient enough and submissive enough
00:03:52.480 for their taste. That is hard to believe. I mean, how can you be more submissive than this?
00:03:58.840 There's a level of admiration I actually have for China. Because their basic dictatorship is allowing
00:04:09.840 them to actually turn their economy around on a dime. And this is Trudeau's right-hand man in the
00:04:16.620 Senate, who he personally appointed. Well, as political theorists will remind us, there are two
00:04:22.340 kinds of state legitimacy. There's input legitimacy and there's output legitimacy. In the West, we tend
00:04:30.520 to place much more emphasis on input legitimacy, which is essentially about how we select our
00:04:36.960 representatives. Hence, our focus, rightly so, on free and fair elections. But in practice, citizens also
00:04:45.940 confer legitimacy to the governments based on the results that are produced by that government.
00:04:51.180 That is to say, on outputs. Now, like most of you, I was brought up in the orthodoxy that input
00:04:58.560 democracy through free and fair elections will in the long run outperform because citizens can always
00:05:05.300 vote out a government that has not performed and in that way seek to improve outputs by changing the
00:05:13.560 inputs. But we are learning the hard way that democratic elections and changes in government over
00:05:20.880 decades have not consistently produced better outcomes for citizens in many industrialized economies.
00:05:28.260 Sure, there has been economic growth, but income and wealth inequality have increased with stagnating
00:05:35.460 median incomes and growing societal tension. That is the reason for what is now widely observed to be the
00:05:42.900 problem of a democratic deficit in some western industrialized economies and the rise of populist leaders who have
00:05:50.440 illiberal instincts but nevertheless command much support through democratic elections.
00:05:58.280 Let me be clear. I much prefer the vagaries of democratic choice to the certainty of authoritarian rule.
00:06:06.740 But we cannot be smug about our preference for input legitimacy as the only way to validate state power.
00:06:15.080 And we cannot deny that the Chinese state has its own claim to a kind of legitimacy, even if we don't like it.
00:06:23.860 I mean, here's John McCallum, Trudeau's former ambassador to China, telling you his strategy for negotiating with China.
00:06:30.480 Within 24 hours of arriving in China, I was invited to present my credentials to President Xi Jinping,
00:06:39.220 and I conveyed to him a message from our Prime Minister that can be summarized in three words,
00:06:45.200 more, more, more. Or in Mandarin, gung dua, gung dua, gung dua.
00:06:50.120 So how could the Chinese Communist Party possibly quarrel with such an obedient country as Canada?
00:06:55.780 Well, because Canadian police arrested the daughter of a very important man in China,
00:07:00.740 the daughter of the Huawei president, in fact.
00:07:03.940 And unlike in China, here in Canada, we don't just call up police and tell them to release someone 0.84
00:07:09.500 because their daddy is important.
00:07:12.460 Well, actually, that is how it works sometimes.
00:07:15.520 My little brother, Mishi, died about 20 years ago in an avalanche accident.
00:07:19.880 About six months before, he was driving back home from the West Coast across the country,
00:07:28.700 and he got in a terrible, terrible car accident, and his truck tumbled,
00:07:33.380 and a Sucretes box went flying across the highway.
00:07:36.840 And when the police were helping him clean up and tow,
00:07:40.680 they opened up the Sucretes box, and there was a couple of joints inside.
00:07:43.260 So he was charged with possession.
00:07:48.220 When he got back home to Montreal, my dad said,
00:07:52.300 okay, don't worry about it.
00:07:54.480 Reached out to his friends in the legal community,
00:07:57.120 got the best possible lawyer,
00:07:59.400 and was very confident that we were going to be able to make those charges go away.
00:08:03.920 We were able to do that because we had resources,
00:08:07.760 my dad had a couple of connections,
00:08:09.020 and we were confident that my little brother wasn't going to be saddled with a criminal record for life.
00:08:14.900 Frankly, it's amazing that Trudeau just hasn't done that,
00:08:18.340 though I wouldn't rule out him doing it eventually.
00:08:20.820 So China is pouting and having a temper tantrum against Canada.
00:08:25.180 I've shown you things that Chinese propaganda outlets have been publishing in recent days.
00:08:30.180 Here's a shocking one, the latest,
00:08:31.900 really taking a run at Trudeau on Indian residential schools.
00:08:35.020 They mock him, and I think it stings him.
00:08:38.640 They're not enough to stop Trudeau from, you know, being Trudeau.
00:08:41.960 Look at this official release from the Trudeau campaign.
00:08:45.360 He was literally doing a staged photo op in an Indian cemetery.
00:08:50.800 He was posed with a teddy bear that I presume he brought with him as a prop.
00:08:55.820 He literally brought a professional campaign photographer and a teddy bear prop
00:09:02.640 to do a fashion shoot, a political photo shoot, on the graves of Indian children.
00:09:09.260 You know, on this issue, maybe China actually has his number.
00:09:13.240 Speaking of numbers, the number is 51.
00:09:16.300 That's the number of boil water advisories in Canada,
00:09:19.220 mainly Indian reserves where you just can't drink the water.
00:09:22.360 Which brings me to the story of the day, just lying out there unreported until Black Locks got to it.
00:09:29.260 A few Canadians, only 4%, are aware Canada is still sending foreign aid to China,
00:09:35.880 according to a Department of Foreign Affairs survey.
00:09:38.380 Millions in aid last year included money for local Chinese projects on empowerment and environmental justice.
00:09:46.120 I knew that we were giving money in foreign aid to China,
00:09:49.220 but I didn't know the details of it, did you?
00:09:51.240 Asked, when thinking about Canada helping people in the developing countries,
00:09:57.180 how does it make you feel?
00:09:59.140 35% replied, it feels good.
00:10:01.760 13% replied, we need to look after Canadians.
00:10:05.060 5% said, it depends on the country getting aid.
00:10:08.000 Those are interesting answers, and those are good questions,
00:10:10.420 but I wonder if it had been phrased a bit differently, like,
00:10:13.240 China and its dictatorship have been holding two Canadian hostages,
00:10:19.000 Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, for nearly 1,000 days.
00:10:22.560 Given that, how appropriate is it for Canada to send 14.2 million of your tax dollars in foreign aid to China?
00:10:30.720 I'm kidding, that would be called a push-pull.
00:10:33.180 People would be too furious to answer it in an unbiased way.
00:10:36.520 But it goes to the fact that no one actually talks about either part of that.
00:10:40.680 The two Michaels still being held in jail almost 1,000 days now,
00:10:43.980 and the fact that we give money to Canada, to China, the richest or second richest country in the world.
00:10:50.940 I'll read more.
00:10:52.040 Federal agencies paid out a total of $6.5 billion in foreign aid worldwide last year.
00:10:56.700 According to a statistical report on international assistance, a total of $4.2 million went to China.
00:11:03.360 I wonder how many clean drinking water wells you could dig for $14.2 million on Indian reserves in Canada.
00:11:10.280 I'll read more.
00:11:10.840 Cabinet, in a separate inquiry of ministry, table in the House of Commons,
00:11:15.080 detailed a portion of Chinese aid, a total of $941,000 in grants awarded through a Canada Fund for Local Initiatives.
00:11:22.860 The fund provides modest funding for small-scale but high-impact projects, said the inquiry.
00:11:29.860 Spending included $37,000 to foster dialogue on the challenges of young female offenders in China.
00:11:37.460 $31,000 on empowerment to help low-income single mothers and girls grow up happily.
00:11:42.880 Is that all it takes?
00:11:44.200 $30,000 on enhancing environmental justice and ecological restoration.
00:11:48.700 $18,000 to advocate equal reproductive rights for non-married women and lesbians.
00:11:55.600 And $1,200 for increasing understanding of sanitation workers.
00:12:01.960 That's real.
00:12:02.720 That's not something from The Onion or the Babylon Bee satire sites.
00:12:07.200 Foster dialogue on the challenges of young female offenders.
00:12:10.340 Does that include China's definition of offenders, like young women in the Uyghur concentration camps?
00:12:15.920 Empowerment to help single moms and girls to grow up happily.
00:12:19.540 How about some of that happiness here in Canada, where moms and girls have been flattened for 18 months
00:12:24.200 by pandemic lockdowns caused by China's virus and exacerbated by Trudeau's rules.
00:12:30.840 Advocating for lesbians in China. 0.61
00:12:32.780 Again, would that include, you know, Tibetans or people in Hong Kong?
00:12:38.740 Are you kidding me?
00:12:39.520 You know what?
00:12:40.500 You can't...
00:12:41.920 I don't think we can give any more for foreign aid.
00:12:44.500 I just don't think we can't.
00:12:46.580 We're too broke in Canada.
00:12:48.420 We're broker than China, that's for sure.
00:12:50.060 They actually have all the money.
00:12:51.700 I'm not kidding.
00:12:52.260 They literally have trillions, with a T, of dollars in foreign currency reserves.
00:12:58.940 They've got all the money.
00:13:00.820 We owe them money.
00:13:02.760 Maybe we shouldn't be giving them foreign aid.
00:13:04.580 Maybe they should be giving us foreign aid.
00:13:06.740 No more foreign aid.
00:13:08.340 It only gets siphoned off by local bosses.
00:13:10.100 Do you really think that sanitation worker understanding grant wasn't just put in the pocket of some local Chinese Communist Party boss?
00:13:18.300 How about let's help Canadians?
00:13:20.640 And you know what?
00:13:22.520 I'm for treating people the same, regardless of their race or, you know, whether they're lesbians or sanitation workers or whatever.
00:13:31.920 That said, I'd be happy to agree to spend it on getting clean water to Indian reserves first.
00:13:37.640 Let's do that first.
00:13:38.900 Something Trudeau said was his top priority five years ago.
00:13:41.480 But as the Chinese propaganda accurately says, that's just another lie.
00:13:47.900 Stay with us for a moment.
00:13:48.880 Today, in conjunction with the America First Policy Institute,
00:14:07.720 I'm filing as the lead class representative a major class action lawsuit against the big tech giants,
00:14:16.840 including Facebook, Google and Twitter, as well as their CEOs, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pache and Jack Dorsey.
00:14:28.300 Three real nice guys.
00:14:29.840 That's a clip of Donald Trump announcing that he is suing the big social media companies, the big tech companies.
00:14:40.560 He made that announcement this week.
00:14:44.240 And joining us now to talk about it is our friend Alan Bokhari,
00:14:47.240 the senior tech editor at Breitbart.com,
00:14:50.700 who wrote an article called Donald Trump to Sue Masters of the Universe.
00:14:55.520 Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg.
00:14:57.680 Alan, great to see you again.
00:14:59.060 I look forward to talking about this.
00:15:01.760 Whenever I think of this, I can't help but think he had four years as president
00:15:09.080 where he controlled at least one branch of the government.
00:15:13.220 For a period, he controlled two branches of the government, you might say.
00:15:18.080 He didn't need to sue.
00:15:20.340 He could have done something.
00:15:22.240 And now he has no more power than you and me.
00:15:24.660 He's just going to court.
00:15:25.480 I find it, I look at this and I think, OK, I'm glad he's suing.
00:15:30.080 But what a missed opportunity.
00:15:33.280 Yeah, I mean, you know, it's good that he's suing and something may come of it.
00:15:38.820 I mean, you know, we talked earlier this year about Clarence Thomas coming out and saying
00:15:44.860 that the Supreme Court might need to make a ruling on tech censorship at some point,
00:15:50.180 which is really, you know, it says a lot because the Supreme Court rarely does that
00:15:54.800 and conservative justices especially rarely do that saying they're going to have to make
00:15:58.160 a ruling on this issue that hasn't been decided by legislators yet.
00:16:01.840 And that, you know, speaks to the fact it's been this has been going on for five years now.
00:16:06.620 Big Tech just obliterating the First Amendment rights of Americans and both the Trump administration
00:16:14.840 and Republicans in Congress fail to do anything about it when they when they could have done.
00:16:19.940 So, you know, hopefully the the lawsuit does well.
00:16:24.140 It's going to be difficult with Section 230 still on the books, of course.
00:16:28.620 But it's also possible that, you know, it gets to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court just says,
00:16:33.640 OK, enough.
00:16:34.160 But enough is enough.
00:16:35.040 You know, you guys haven't fixed this, so we will.
00:16:37.580 Yeah.
00:16:38.120 Well, I want to look at who the lawsuit is emanating from.
00:16:44.120 And I'm not sure if the lawsuit itself has been filed or if it's just an announcement.
00:16:49.060 Your story says the lawsuit will be spearheaded by the America First Policy Institute,
00:16:54.560 a group founded by Trump administration alumni, Brooke Rollins and Linda McMahon.
00:16:59.740 So I'm not sure if it's been filed yet.
00:17:01.800 Do you know if the document is actually being lodged to the court?
00:17:06.980 That I don't know.
00:17:07.800 I haven't seen the document yet.
00:17:09.640 I do know that it makes an argument which is slightly different to to previous lawsuits against the tech companies.
00:17:16.700 Most previous lawsuits, that is, which is that the tech companies colluded with the state because they were taking advice from public health officials, which which obviously takes it beyond the realm of a private company.
00:17:32.000 And it's more a case of the state and private companies colluding.
00:17:35.460 And that makes it more of a First Amendment issue.
00:17:37.760 So that's an interesting argument.
00:17:39.100 We'll see where that goes.
00:17:40.420 Yeah.
00:17:40.880 The reason I ask about the the law firm is that I know that a lot of Donald Trump's challenges to elections issues.
00:17:49.500 Now, you've got to take critics with a grain of salt because there's a lot of bad faith critics when Trump is involved.
00:17:57.360 But I'm not sure if he had the finest legal minds in America behind those challenges to election irregularities.
00:18:06.620 Maybe he did.
00:18:07.720 But I I'm unfamiliar with the America First Policy Institute.
00:18:11.600 Maybe they are the best and they have the best arguments.
00:18:16.040 But if you're going to take on the mightiest, richest corporations in America, Twitter, Facebook, who have unlimited funds to hire not just the best lawyers, but to hire all the best lawyers.
00:18:30.180 You'd better be going in there with the sharpest knives in the drawer.
00:18:34.460 Maybe the America First Policy Institute has those.
00:18:37.500 But without knowing more, I'm nervous because I saw, you know, I think of some of the more colorful legal claims that were made between November and January by Trump's team.
00:18:51.720 And a lot of them fell apart under scrutiny.
00:18:55.060 Yes.
00:18:55.920 And, you know, the America First Policy Institute, Brooke Rollins, they're primarily known as one as good fundraisers, which I suppose is good if you're, you know, going up against the tech giants.
00:19:08.080 Two, for being in the orbit of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump.
00:19:13.480 And, you know, that's not exactly a compliment in MAGA circles.
00:19:19.020 But, you know, you can certainly say that the crowd is maybe a little bit more competent than some of the people who were involved in the election challenges.
00:19:27.100 I do know that, you know, there are some, you know, pretty decent legal minds who have advised the case, people who know their stuff on this issue.
00:19:36.940 So hopefully it won't be a whole clown show.
00:19:40.940 But even if it's like a really solid case with really solid lawyers behind it, it's still going to run into this Section 230 issue.
00:19:49.500 And it didn't need to be that way because, you know, Trump being a Florida citizen could have taken advantage of some Florida law against tech censorship.
00:20:00.760 There was a Florida law against tech censorship.
00:20:02.640 But, one, it didn't regulate the tech companies as common carriers or places of public accommodation, as Clarence Thomas advised.
00:20:10.860 And it was, you know, as a result of that, it was, you know, knocked down by a federal judge.
00:20:16.720 He was a Clinton-appointed judge.
00:20:18.000 And, you know, he would have tried the same thing if it was a common carrier bill or public accommodation bill.
00:20:23.100 But I think it would have been part of him to do that if it were the case.
00:20:26.300 Now, just, I'm a former lawyer myself, but I'm not an expert in what common carrier means.
00:20:31.840 That's basically when, for example, there's a freight train going or a phone company.
00:20:37.020 They have to let you on for the same fee you pay everyone else.
00:20:41.620 It's basically a way to stop monopolies from, if I had to guess without looking it up, it's probably the kind of thing that was brought in after the oligopolies, the great robber barons said,
00:20:54.880 well, I own this rail line and I'm not letting you put your coal on my rail line because I'm trying to bankrupt you.
00:21:00.420 If I had to guess, that's where common carrier law probably has some of its policy roots.
00:21:07.040 So basically, am I right in understanding common carrier means?
00:21:10.240 Yeah, that is correct.
00:21:12.060 If you're an airline's fallen with this category as well, it's a type of business that's expected to provide its services to all customers on reasonable, non-discriminatory grounds.
00:21:23.600 Yeah. Well, I tell you, I sure hope someone does something because every day the censorship gets more and more brutal.
00:21:31.320 And just, I mean, we've talked about Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which when it was passed decades ago,
00:21:38.380 was designed to protect Internet companies from legal liability for things they didn't know about.
00:21:47.540 And basically, you brought something to their attention.
00:21:50.560 If it was obscenity, really, I mean, you could see it right there in the name of the law, the Communications Decency Act.
00:21:56.300 If there was obscenity on their system, you brought it to their attention, they could take it down and be immune from liability,
00:22:05.880 both for putting it up in the first place and, second of all, for taking it down.
00:22:08.720 That's a very reasonable thing to do.
00:22:10.560 But the fact that that is being used to justify censorship in 2021 has so far from the original intent of that section.
00:22:21.340 Yeah. And it also justifies defamation.
00:22:25.340 I mean, Wikipedia uses this law as well.
00:22:28.860 If there's one company that I think should be liable for defamation, it's Wikipedia, arguably the most powerful publisher in the world,
00:22:35.200 yet it's still claiming to be a platform under this law.
00:22:37.700 Yeah. Well, you know what? Let me just throw something at you.
00:22:40.760 I don't know if you know this, but there is a Canadian mining magnate who's actually in the orbit of the Clintons.
00:22:50.660 His name is Frank Giustra, and he's a pretty wealthy guy, and he donated a ton of dough to the Clinton foundations.
00:22:59.100 I don't know that much about him, but I know that he's a donor of the Clintons. That tells me a lot.
00:23:03.800 He was defamed on Twitter repeatedly, and he sued Twitter in Vancouver, Canada, for defamation.
00:23:13.020 And they argued Section 230, and the judge said, you're not in Kansas anymore, Toto, or really, you're not in America.
00:23:21.720 Section 230 is an American law. We're in Canada. You defamed this man in Vancouver.
00:23:27.380 He has the right to sue in Vancouver for the damages done to him in Vancouver.
00:23:32.520 He doesn't have to go down to California where you get the benefit of the First Amendment, or you have the benefit of Section 230.
00:23:42.080 I'm sure that that will be appealed all the way to our Supreme Court, because imagine what would happen to Twitter, YouTube, Google, Facebook, if this caught on, and you could sue in non-free speech jurisdictions.
00:23:57.540 I believe in free speech, by the way, Alan, but the absolutely unrestricted partisan bias of these companies.
00:24:05.840 I'm not a Frank Jooster fan, but I think that's an important win for accountability against these tech giants.
00:24:13.520 Arguably so, yes. I mean, I think there's a case to be made for social media platforms to have some sort of liability shield for hosting content.
00:24:22.380 I think in the case of Wikipedia, it's completely different, because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.
00:24:27.980 That's how it brands itself. It publishes things, and it still hides behind Section.
00:24:32.860 And it's, you know, the biggest defamer on the Internet, in my view.
00:24:35.820 Its results appear right at the top of Google results, and you've probably seen how it talks about Rebel News, Breitbart News, any conservative.
00:24:46.000 Just, you know, all these articles just laden with smears.
00:24:49.560 So I think it should be liable for that.
00:24:51.940 It's interesting, you mentioned that the judge in Vancouver said you're not going to be covered by Section 230,
00:24:58.060 because one of the provisions of USMCA is a Section 230, essentially a clone of Section 230.
00:25:06.320 It's in the USMCA trade agreement.
00:25:08.680 And, you know, I published a lot of articles criticizing that at the time,
00:25:11.520 because, of course, the Trump administration that got USMCA through.
00:25:15.540 So we'll see if that gets brought into proceedings at higher courts.
00:25:19.660 Yeah, very interesting. Well, I tell you, yeah, Wikipedia is just the most politically malicious site on the Internet.
00:25:28.300 And it is powerful precisely because it has this patina of authority.
00:25:33.680 Oh, it's an encyclopedia. This must be true.
00:25:35.840 I've actually attended events by friends and allies where they read my Wikipedia page as my introduction.
00:25:43.720 And there are parts of it. I thought, oh, my God, you're reading the absolute worst smears of me.
00:25:49.100 And because because they think, well, it's just normal. That's Wikipedia.
00:25:52.620 Very interesting. Well, listen, Alan, great to talk to you again.
00:25:56.020 I know you're the guy to follow on this.
00:25:57.520 Let me just mention that the twinkle of hope and you and you throw to this in the end of your article is Florida,
00:26:05.360 where you have a Trumpian governor who is maybe a little bit more organized and maybe a little bit more systemic.
00:26:12.920 And he is using the levers of power. He's not wasting time.
00:26:16.460 I'm talking about Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:26:18.700 It may be that that first law regulating tech companies had flaws in it.
00:26:24.620 But if I am reading Ron DeSantis correctly, he is tenacious enough to redo it and to make a run at the tech companies.
00:26:33.460 And if you have enough states doing it, Florida, Texas, et cetera, you might even get some progress.
00:26:39.380 You know, in a way, we're relying on Ron DeSantis as a little junior president right now.
00:26:44.160 Last word to you, Alan.
00:26:46.120 Yeah, I agree with that. Republicans should look to their states, look to their state representatives to get this problem fixed,
00:26:51.420 because it certainly won't happen from the federal government in the next four years.
00:26:54.940 Yeah. Well, I'm great to see you again, folks.
00:26:57.040 You can check out the article on Breitbart.com.
00:26:59.200 It's called Donald Trump to Sue Masters of the Universe, Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg.
00:27:03.800 And isn't that the truth?
00:27:04.880 Alan, take care. Thanks again.
00:27:07.340 All right. Cheers. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:27:21.420 On my show last night, John writes, hey, Ezra, why don't you hire Wendy?
00:27:24.640 That way she can learn what real journalism is about.
00:27:27.760 Well, I'm not going to hire a serial racist like that.
00:27:30.620 I'm not going to hire someone who goes around dropping the N-word.
00:27:33.080 I might get in trouble.
00:27:34.700 And the next Wendy Manstead would ask me questions about why I'm hiring some alt-right, you know, foul-mouthed N-word dropper. 1.00
00:27:44.060 You know, I was talking to our producer-editor, Justin, earlier in the day,
00:27:49.980 and I was remarking on my own late grandfather, who was from the silent generation,
00:27:53.980 the generation that, you know, World War II.
00:27:57.680 And I'm thinking back a generation now, but he would say the word Japs.
00:28:02.440 And I would sort of, oh, tense every time he said it, because you don't say that.
00:28:06.180 But you know what? For the generation that grew up in World War II,
00:28:08.560 that was the disparaging word for the Japanese.
00:28:12.800 And it's not a nice word, but that's, the entire culture said that.
00:28:17.600 It was part of, you know, allied propaganda against Japan.
00:28:22.000 And you wouldn't judge someone who grew up in the war, and those were the language, and he fought,
00:28:28.220 I mean, for those who fought.
00:28:31.600 Wendy Manstead is not much older than me,
00:28:34.720 and she grew up in the most progressive liberal place, 40 years at the CBC.
00:28:40.240 So she doesn't have the excuse of someone, you know, born in the 1910s kind of thing. 0.85
00:28:48.680 She has no excuse for dropping the N-bomb repeatedly in the year 2020 in the CBC.
00:28:56.940 I mean, I'm not disparaging my late grandfather at all.
00:28:59.880 I'm just remarking what generational terms are different.
00:29:04.420 I mean, what's Wendy Mesley's excuse for dropping the N-word in the year 2020 as a progressive activist at the CBC?
00:29:14.140 There's no excuse for it.
00:29:16.580 Chris writes,
00:29:17.920 Wendy was bitten by her own snake.
00:29:21.020 Oh, exactly.
00:29:21.640 I have no sympathy for her.
00:29:24.280 Her entire existence at the CBC, besides some payoff to Peter Mansbridge, some pension for his ex,
00:29:31.680 was to smear conservatives as racist.
00:29:34.160 So to see her taken down by that, I'm sorry, I have no sympathy left.
00:29:37.740 But more to the point, even in her goodbye letter yesterday,
00:29:41.720 she was refusing to call herself an anti-cancellor.
00:29:45.700 She said her life was about cancelling injustice.
00:29:50.460 That's sort of weird.
00:29:51.160 How do you say that's your life's goal and then complain when you yourself are cancelled?
00:29:55.980 What a world we live in.
00:29:57.440 That's the show for today.
00:29:58.500 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:30:01.560 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:30:03.280 We'll see you next time.