Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Does Israel want Canada's help？ Or does it just want us to not interfere with them helping themselves？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. More today on the war between Israel, the democratic nation, and Hamas, the terrorist entity.

00:00:11.160 But also a review of Maxime Bernier's tweet on the situation.

00:00:15.840 He says we should all be Canada first, but what does that mean?

00:00:19.140 I'll go through it. I did invite him on the show today, haven't heard back.

00:00:23.240 I'll take you through that, and we'll also have an update from Avi Yamini, who's on the ground in Israel doing reporting for us.

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00:00:52.600 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:58.040 Tonight, does Israel want Canada's help? 0.97

00:01:12.220 Or does Israel just want Canada to not interfere with them helping themselves?

00:01:16.780 It's October 12th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:19.500 We're fighting for freedom! 0.99

00:01:22.320 Shame on you, you censorious thug! 0.92

00:01:25.520 I saw this tweet today by Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party of Canada. 0.91

00:01:39.640 He said, to all those living in Canada who care more about what's going on in Ukraine and the Middle East than in this country,

00:01:47.720 and want to import these conflicts and get us more involved in them,

00:01:51.720 why don't you just go and fight there yourself instead?

00:01:55.460 Canada first.

00:01:57.620 Well, I'm pretty much Canada first.

00:01:59.620 I think I know what that means.

00:02:01.000 To me, it means that I'm skeptical of foreign entanglements for our country. 0.91

00:02:06.040 I mean, look at Trudeau and all of his entanglements in India, in China.

00:02:10.280 It's made a mess of foreign policy, and it's caused enormous troubles in domestic policy.

00:02:15.560 I mean, what I mean is I'm skeptical of Canadian resources being sent to other countries at all,

00:02:21.160 either for military aid or for more general foreign aid.

00:02:24.780 I mean, we are learning every day how much has been wasted and defrauded in our own domestic spending in Canada,

00:02:31.200 like the scandal of the Arrive Can app.

00:02:34.380 I think it's fair to say, I'm just making an estimate here,

00:02:38.160 that 25% of Trudeau's spending is misappropriated, misdirected, or outright stolen.

00:02:45.240 I don't think that's outlandish to say.

00:02:48.060 Well, imagine what the percentage would be in third world countries that take billions in foreign aid from Canada.

00:02:53.680 I mean, it just couldn't be less than 50% stolen, and that's just aid.

00:02:58.500 I'm generally opposed to Canadians sending troops abroad, too,

00:03:02.920 including when Stephen Harper sent troops, military ship,

00:03:07.120 in a counterproductive decision to join Hillary Clinton's war against Muammar Gaddafi,

00:03:13.240 which handed Libya over to terrorists and unleashed 1,000 monsters, 0.97

00:03:19.280 including open-air slave markets again.

00:03:21.860 I think it's fair to say that Trudeau sent troops to the country of Mali.

00:03:27.280 Hey, no Googling.

00:03:28.820 Can you even find it on a map?

00:03:31.420 Do you know where Mali is without checking?

00:03:34.200 I think he did that because Trudeau's mom went to Mali on some kind of, you know,

00:03:41.020 theological vacation or something, spiritual journey.

00:03:44.740 I can think of no other reason why Trudeau would have done it

00:03:48.200 other than his mom thought it was a really cool country.

00:03:50.480 I'm skeptical about expanding NATO to encircle Russia because each of those countries that signs up 0.98

00:03:57.900 is now a tripwire that could pull Canada into a conflict.

00:04:03.420 I'm genuinely worried about war with Russia. 0.93

00:04:06.340 I think we've never been this close to war with Russia since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:04:10.060 And I don't think we're exactly working with the Winston Churchill's of our age,

00:04:15.740 Santa Marin, who brought Finland out of almost a century of neutrality into NATO.

00:04:22.740 She's a party girl who dances and parties and goes to raves and just reads scripts written for her by who knows.

00:04:29.520 Seriously, her claim to fame is going to booze and drug-fueled raves as prime minister. 1.00

00:04:34.360 You go, girl.

00:04:35.480 I just, that makes me scared.

00:04:37.800 I don't want entanglements with people like her.

00:04:41.280 I'm skeptical of the deep state.

00:04:43.660 And I long for the days of Donald Trump's foreign policy.

00:04:47.260 And before you hate on Trump, he emphasized peace through strength and deterrent.

00:04:52.900 He dealt with threats directly, massively, and quickly, which meant everyone in the world knew not to mess with America.

00:05:01.740 When Trump was boss, I point out to you, Putin invaded countries before Trump, Georgia, Ukraine.

00:05:10.020 And he invaded countries after Trump, Ukraine, but he didn't invade any countries during Trump, did he?

00:05:17.640 Trump's occasional show of force, like when he had dinner, I don't know if you remember this,

00:05:22.620 he had dinner with Xi Jinping, the Chinese dictator at Mar-a-Lago.

00:05:26.540 And Trump timed it.

00:05:28.400 So he launched a cruise missile attack on Syria, just over dessert, just over dessert.

00:05:34.620 It was designed to send Syria and Russia a message, but China too.

00:05:40.020 One day a year, Trump would flex muscles like that, and then 99% of the year, there would be peace.

00:05:46.340 Trump was better at foreign affairs than Trudeau or Biden.

00:05:50.940 You know, I never used to believe in the phrase, the military-industrial complex.

00:05:55.160 That's what Dwight D. Eisenhower called it, and he would know.

00:05:58.000 He was the general who led the D-Day invasion, and then he was president.

00:06:01.460 I thought that phrase, military-industrial complex, was sort of a goofy Marxist thing used by Noam Chomsky and other peaceniks.

00:06:10.020 But watching any random TV clip of people like Lindsey Graham, the senator, or the late John McCain, show that it is a very real thing.

00:06:18.480 I mean, here's just one example.

00:06:19.920 Tell me this isn't unnerving.

00:06:21.540 The best money we've ever spent. 0.99

00:06:23.540 Free or die. 0.99

00:06:24.440 Free or die. 0.57

00:06:25.560 Now we are free.

00:06:26.900 Yes.

00:06:27.300 And we will be.

00:06:28.160 And the Russians are dying. 0.82

00:06:29.280 But back to Maxime Bernier's tweet.

00:06:31.620 And by the way, I wrote to him today and invited him to come on the show just to talk about it.

00:06:36.500 He said, to all those living in Canada who care more about what's going on in Ukraine and the Middle East than in this country and want to import these conflicts and get us more involved in them, why don't you just go there and fight there yourself instead?

00:06:48.360 Canada first.

00:06:48.900 But I think Bernier is not only tone deaf here and controversy farming on Twitter to stay on the media, social media radar.

00:06:58.220 I think he's wrong in substance.

00:07:00.060 I haven't heard a single voice calling for Canada to send troops to Israel or even for Canada to send foreign aid to Israel.

00:07:09.960 I don't think Canada has done either in a very long time.

00:07:14.680 This is one of the most up-to-date lists of foreign aid recipients I could find.

00:07:20.360 I don't think Israel is even on the list.

00:07:22.400 I actually don't think Canada gives Israel a dollar.

00:07:26.320 By contrast, the Liberals actually do send, they've sent over $100 million to UN agencies that are embedded with Hamas.

00:07:33.500 One is called UNRWA.

00:07:35.040 It's a UN agency.

00:07:36.120 You see, Trudeau did that after other countries pulled out their money over worries about terrorism and just plain old embezzlement.

00:07:44.460 And Ukraine obviously has received billions of dollars in the past year, including in the form of actual Canadian Armed Forces equipment.

00:07:51.500 Trudeau says he sent $9 billion over.

00:07:53.520 But the newspeg for Bernier's tweet is obviously the Hamas attacks on Israel.

00:07:58.320 I mean, nothing new has happened in Ukraine.

00:08:00.420 What is the Canada-first approach that Bernier would recommend for Israel that is different from what is happening now or what anyone is calling for?

00:08:10.520 There is one Canadian Armed Forces jet that's going to Israel to bring home some stranded Canadians.

00:08:16.680 And that's pretty much standard operating procedure all the time.

00:08:20.540 I don't think it's a particularly big deal.

00:08:22.520 I don't think that Israel these days even thinks about Canada.

00:08:28.180 We're now known for Justin Trudeau's socks and for bungling every file from India to China.

00:08:35.040 I mean, here's what Trudeau had to say at the G20 meeting a few weeks ago.

00:08:40.340 This is so embarrassing.

00:08:41.580 Who would say, we need help?

00:08:43.180 Who can we call?

00:08:44.560 Trudeau.

00:08:45.360 This is what he said.

00:08:46.340 What did Canada contribute to the UK?

00:08:48.980 As always, Canada is a strong voice for inclusion of gender language, inclusion of indigenous reflections.

00:09:00.460 Got it.

00:09:01.060 So indigenous reflections and gendered language. 0.99

00:09:04.600 You know, he's not even a joke.

00:09:06.060 He's a joke to us because we have to listen to him.

00:09:08.000 But real countries just ignore him.

00:09:10.240 The five allies that put out a statement on Hamas the other day were like super friends.

00:09:15.300 The US, the United Kingdom, Italy, Germany and France.

00:09:18.100 Canada was not on that list.

00:09:20.600 Look, I think what Israel wants is not intervention from Canada, but non-intervention.

00:09:29.880 Don't lecture it.

00:09:31.480 Don't try to stop it from extirpating the terrorists on the other side of that fence with Gaza. 0.92

00:09:37.980 I think Israel is just saying to Canada, stay out, not come in. 0.83

00:09:41.740 I think it's a very different argument from the Ukraine matter where Canada is using unusual bellicosity in terms of language and diplomacy and the $9 billion in aid.

00:09:52.260 I mean, here's Trudeau the other day when Zelensky was in town.

00:09:54.940 It's hard for the democracies around the world who are there to support their citizens, who are investing for the future, who are challenged with a challenging economy around the world to continue to step up as Canada has.

00:10:07.320 We're close to $9 billion in aid for Ukraine, but we will because the cost on Canadians, on our lives, on our world will be so much greater.

00:10:18.320 If Putin wins this war, that we will and have to stand every single day until Ukraine wins this war.

00:10:26.560 How is that comparable to the Israel situation?

00:10:29.380 Why is he lumping them together?

00:10:30.940 If Bernier is talking about, and I think he actually is, the pro-Hamas hate rallies and say so.

00:10:39.100 There's a lot to talk about there.

00:10:41.180 Remember, the Gaza Plaza Hamas parade that we broke the news on by videotaping it, rallies across Canada supporting Hamas, cheering the murders, cheering the terrorism, people talking about exterminating Israel.

00:10:56.380 If that's what you're mad about, and I think you should be, say so.

00:11:00.920 But the tweet has written, it bundles the murderers and the murder victims together and tells them both to shut up.

00:11:07.520 Bernier is a friend of mine. I've known him since before he was even a member of parliament.

00:11:12.880 I knew him when he was a vice president at the Montreal Economic Institute years ago, sort of a free market think tank.

00:11:20.100 I think Rebel News has got to be the most supportive media company in the whole country towards him.

00:11:25.400 We've interviewed him countless times.

00:11:27.460 We've been supportive of him in many ways.

00:11:29.420 We've even invited him to speak at our live, in-person events.

00:11:32.580 I consider him a friend, although, honestly, I realize you can never fully be a friend with a politician, especially if you're a journalist.

00:11:39.740 I've always regarded Bernier as courageous, especially during the lockdowns.

00:11:45.720 I mean, I remember when he was arrested.

00:11:47.500 We covered it extensively.

00:11:49.260 He showed courage.

00:11:50.380 I remember when he joined a lawsuit against the no-fly rule for vaccinated, unvaccinated people.

00:11:55.540 But I think this tweet is a rare instance where Bernier is actually not showing courage.

00:12:03.560 And here's why I say that.

00:12:05.780 There's a lot of Muslim and Arab supporters of Bernier, which is great, including his past candidates, which is great.

00:12:12.500 But I think Bernier is worried about losing their support, and he's already losing support to Pierre Polyev on other issues.

00:12:22.040 Bernier did really well when the red Tory, Aaron O'Toole, was the Conservative Party leader.

00:12:28.300 Under him, the Conservatives, I don't even want to use that word, they were against the truckers.

00:12:34.160 They were against the convoy.

00:12:35.100 They were for vaccine mandates, or at least didn't depose them.

00:12:38.480 Even for the carbon tax, Aaron O'Toole was for the carbon tax.

00:12:43.840 Isn't that crazy?

00:12:45.460 But now Pierre Polyev is the leader, and he's done none of those things.

00:12:50.440 There are fewer and fewer differences between Bernier and Polyev, and that means that the People's Party vote is sort of sliding back to Polyev.

00:12:58.820 I think it is already.

00:13:00.620 I think polls show that.

00:13:03.220 And Bernier is trying to differentiate himself.

00:13:05.060 But back to the terrorism statement, to me, the past week has not been about policy A versus policy B, or this solution or that solution, or is the war being prosecuted correctly.

00:13:17.120 None of that's happened yet.

00:13:19.760 The past week has just been about acknowledging the most barbaric moment in a generation, deliberately barbaric, designed to terrorize and terrify and humiliate.

00:13:30.220 It is a massive pogrom, a massive Nazi moment, like Kristallnacht. 0.85

00:13:35.840 But in some ways, it's worse.

00:13:38.560 I think the main reaction to the terror has been personal and emotional, not even political.

00:13:43.920 I mean, this is just pure evil.

00:13:46.680 No one I know, no one I've heard of, is asking for Canadians to send tax dollars or troops or even weapons to Israel.

00:13:55.460 I think people such as myself are simply looking for political leaders to say, what happened is pure evil and we're morally against it.

00:14:02.800 Just, just say that.

00:14:05.820 How's that not Canada first?

00:14:08.980 Instead, Bernier has come across as saying, you are wrong to care about this. 0.98

00:14:13.640 Just shut up or go over there. 1.00

00:14:15.400 Because, and I think this is actually the explanation, I think he didn't have the political courage to say what he actually means, which is, you pro-Hamas supporters with your pro-terrorism rallies, you should go back to Gaza. 0.91

00:14:31.960 Because Bernier, who's normally quite courageous, didn't quite have the political courage to speak the unvarnished truth, because to do so would mean to lose, I don't know, 10% of his party.

00:14:45.700 So instead, he came across as absolutely heartless towards people who weren't asking for anything from him, other than to maybe say, I'm so sorry for this atrocity.

00:14:56.580 I stand with you and I stand against the monsters.

00:14:58.840 Instead, he lumped the monsters and the victims together and said, enough out of both of you.

00:15:06.340 I think he actually lacked the political courage to say what he actually meant.

00:15:10.180 And I think he screwed up.

00:15:12.600 Look, I like the guy, but this is a big error.

00:15:15.160 It's a shocking historical moment.

00:15:17.620 It's like the 9-11 moment.

00:15:20.040 There's even a touch of Holocaust-style Nazism there. 0.81

00:15:24.120 Telling everyone just to shut up isn't the right message.

00:15:27.540 And I don't even think it's Bernier's message.

00:15:31.400 Ironically, I think it's Bernier because he didn't say what he believes, well, what I think he believes, which is that he's truly revolted by the pro-Hamas rallies we've seen across the country.

00:15:42.640 He's playing politics, which is rare for him.

00:15:45.800 But he got it really wrong.

00:15:46.840 By the way, if he accepts my invitation, I'm happy to have him on the show.

00:15:50.480 He can correct me if I'm wrong.

00:15:52.760 He can explain.

00:15:53.520 Hey, instead of having our regular interview, I've asked our friend Avi Amini to record a little video from being on the ground in southern Israel earlier today.

00:16:07.760 He was there when a rocket attack happened.

00:16:10.800 He arrived, and five minutes later, rockets slammed into the town of Sterot.

00:16:15.340 Here's a little video that Avi put together for our show today.

00:16:18.600 Avi Amini for Rebel News in Sterot, southern Israel.

00:16:23.540 We're at the site right now of a direct hit minutes ago.

00:16:27.880 Literally five minutes after arriving here in Sterot, we heard a loud explosion.

00:16:33.700 What's happened here today?

00:16:34.700 Today, it's what's happened yesterday.

00:16:37.260 They continue to throw the missile, and three people injured from the missile here, and we have 20 rockets that land in the town.

00:16:45.920 This is the reality now because we're in a war.

00:16:47.960 As we drove into this city, a city that only days ago there were terrorists marching the street and butchering anyone in their way, we suddenly heard explosions having to run for our lives.

00:17:00.120 I didn't hear a warning, and there certainly wasn't 15 seconds to get to shelter, but it didn't hit us.

00:17:05.500 It's about 500 meters from where we were, and unfortunately, there are three victims, one in a critical condition.

00:17:13.360 I was driving in as it happened, as the explosions.

00:17:16.980 I didn't hear any warning.

00:17:18.380 What was that about?

00:17:19.480 I don't know.

00:17:20.100 I think I hear a warning, and I run away.

00:17:24.020 The problem is that everyone, even you, everyone that stay here, every time that they hear something, they need to run and run and go under the ground or go to a bomb shelter to save their life.

00:17:38.660 I don't think there was time for me.

00:17:40.020 When we heard the explosions, there was no time.

00:17:41.460 Avi, you're in this situation one day.

00:17:44.840 I'm in this situation 20 years.

00:17:46.740 I have seven kids.

00:17:48.080 Seven of my children don't know any reality, any other reality.

00:17:53.300 So, Avi, what you suggest me to do to Hamas in the Jihad?

00:17:56.820 If they will do it in your family, in your city, what we need to do?

00:18:01.760 We need to crush them. 1.00

00:18:02.740 We need to kill them. 1.00

00:18:03.640 They are barbaris. 1.00

00:18:04.980 They are organized of evil. 1.00

00:18:06.900 They are animals. 1.00

00:18:08.240 They killed innocent women and babies, cut their head. 1.00

00:18:14.600 They are animals. 1.00

00:18:15.300 They are the new ISIS of the world. 1.00

00:18:16.800 We need to destroy them. 1.00

00:18:17.840 We need to kill them. 1.00

00:18:18.620 The blood of one of the victims and the shrapnel on the wall is evident of what these rockets are able to achieve. 1.00

00:18:27.180 Three injured, at least one in a critical condition, two in this car, and one up against that wall.

00:18:32.720 This is a reality that they're living with every single day across the country, but especially here in southern Israel.

00:18:40.280 Avi, many for Rebel News in Sderot, Israel.

00:18:42.820 If you like that, you can go to thetruthaboutthewar.com.

00:18:47.120 Yeah, thanks, Ezra.

00:18:59.940 Yeah, day one, it's been a wild ride.

00:19:03.720 We really just woke up and head straight to the south without really touching base with anyone.

00:19:09.840 We thought we'll just see what's happening for ourselves, and we got to Sderot within five minutes, literally driving in Sderot.

00:19:22.720 What is that sound?

00:19:23.900 Those are sirens.

00:19:24.640 There we go.

00:19:25.020 It's all happening here.

00:19:27.680 There's actually just not far from us now in Jerusalem Police Station, there's just been a terrorist attack.

00:19:34.920 Apparently, one serious injured and one lightly injured police officer.

00:19:40.860 But today, we got to Sderot within five minutes.

00:19:44.560 We didn't even hear the warnings.

00:19:46.340 We just felt and heard the explosions, jumped out of the car.

00:19:50.420 Honestly, I didn't even see where the shelter was, didn't have time until it was over.

00:19:57.200 The shelter happened to be across the road.

00:20:00.340 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:20:02.220 Outside, on top, missiles, missiles, missiles.

00:20:04.720 What is that?

00:20:06.880 That looks like something that just got hit.

00:20:15.560 We saw the smoke.

00:20:16.820 We kind of went to where it seemed like it had hit.

00:20:20.600 And indeed, it was a direct hit.

00:20:23.120 There was three injured, one in a serious condition, all taken to hospital when we got there.

00:20:30.600 And you can just see the daily life for Israelis here.

00:20:34.520 And the thing that was interesting, the thing that struck me is that they were saying this is new to the world.

00:20:39.920 But this has been their life for 20 years.

00:20:42.240 And a lot of the people who live in and around these areas were actually removed out of Gaza, so out of Gush Katif and places like that in 2005 as part of the disengagement plan for peace.

00:20:55.260 And they say they were warning Israel, they were warning the government that if we move, all we're doing is we're bringing the problem closer.

00:21:05.260 You know, they saw themselves in Gaza before 2005 as the defense.

00:21:12.860 They were what was standing between Hamas and the different terrorist groups and the rest of Israel, the non-occupied territories.

00:21:25.640 Because you've got to remember, Gaza is not occupied.

00:21:28.220 It was given back, like I said, in 2005.

00:21:31.100 And, you know, when we went there, we saw, as soon as we got there, we saw the mayor, basically the mayor, calming one civilian down who was visibly really upset and cursing out.

00:21:46.500 And it felt like it felt like the government almost, as well as Hamas, as in felt like, come on, this has been 20 years.

00:21:54.820 We caught up with the mayor who, you know, told us that this has been his life forever.

00:22:01.660 That's the sentiment here is that, yeah, the world's woken up because they saw the horrific scenes over the weekend.

00:22:07.220 But really, this has been the reality for people, especially in the south.

00:22:10.440 There was one mother, and I think she was a volunteer to the local council, who literally just started speaking to us.

00:22:21.920 And it was raw and it was passionate in the moment right after an attack.

00:22:27.540 And she said exactly how she felt.

00:22:29.460 Do you know that the border is 800 meters away, right?

00:22:32.380 So the city sits 800 meters from the border.

00:22:34.480 The minute they destroyed the border and our first line of defense was gone and they walked in 6 a.m. in the morning or 5 a.m. in the morning or something like this, of course they were on the streets because it was a holiday.

00:22:47.560 Some people already left the city to travel.

00:22:51.400 Some people were on their way thinking about going to the synagogues to pray.

00:22:57.280 However, the sirens went off.

00:22:59.740 When the sirens go off, people go into the bomb shelters.

00:23:03.920 So no one was on the street and they just had a clean shot.

00:23:07.380 Now, usually our first line of defense is our army.

00:23:12.900 They weren't here.

00:23:13.920 They were caught off guard.

00:23:15.400 How, though?

00:23:15.960 That's what so many people around the world are asking.

00:23:17.580 So you can see all what the experts are saying.

00:23:20.220 And right now they're trying to figure out what happened.

00:23:22.360 But I have to tell you, this is not the focus right now.

00:23:24.900 For us, this is not the focus.

00:23:26.300 This is old news.

00:23:27.560 And this was for Saturday.

00:23:28.920 In order for us to continue, if you look at what's happening right now, we're not in the same situation we were on Saturday.

00:23:34.920 Right now we're the hunters.

00:23:36.860 And they better run.

00:23:38.720 Right now the IDF is back.

00:23:40.800 And we're back big time.

00:23:41.920 And it has been for a few days.

00:23:43.540 They are running around being chased by people.

00:23:46.240 People are not hiding from them.

00:23:47.460 It's the other way around.

00:23:48.560 Our soldiers are in the streets and strong.

00:23:50.220 And we are right now in the middle of an attack, you know, with all these rockets.

00:23:54.960 And we will go in and out of these bomb shelters if it buys time for the IDF to go and demolish them.

00:24:01.120 The Hamas has to go.

00:24:02.120 I have to tell you, we have been warning governments and organizations that have been giving money to the Hamas for years.

00:24:10.660 And we've been saying, if you're going to teach a five-year-old how to stab a Jew, and if this is the ceremony, ending ceremony of kindergarten, how to stab a Jew, what do you think is going to happen in 20 years? 0.90

00:24:22.200 Do you think he's going to be a rocket scientist or is he going to be a terrorist? 0.64

00:24:26.700 What are you going to raise? 0.97

00:24:28.060 If a mother or the women that I've seen from Gaza are celebrating their son's success by killing and raping women, when they do that, do you think I have someone to talk to? 0.99

00:24:42.060 I am a mother. 0.95

00:24:43.900 I will never celebrate something like this. 0.98

00:24:45.500 Who the hell do they think they are?

00:24:47.740 The culture has to change. 0.97

00:24:49.520 They have to shift.

00:24:50.640 Hamas has to go.

00:24:51.560 And they have to decide, are they for good or are they for evil?

00:24:55.460 Are they for peace or are they for war?

00:24:57.840 They need to make a decision.

00:24:59.140 It's not on us anymore.

00:25:00.820 It is done.

00:25:02.160 What would you say?

00:25:02.920 So we just saw the deadly reality of, you know, the daily, deadly, daily reality for Israelis. 0.98

00:25:08.340 This is also going to change.

00:25:08.760 But what would you say to people that say, well, you know, what about the reality of the Gaza, you know, 40% of Gaza is kids.

00:25:16.160 What about their reality?

00:25:17.000 If you would have asked me two years ago, I would say, OK.

00:25:19.300 If you would have even asked me six months ago, I would say, OK, I don't care.

00:25:23.860 Once you touch our kids the way you did, once you showed such brutality towards children and women, you are no longer someone that we need to take account for.

00:25:35.460 You are done.

00:25:36.400 But what about the kids, the kids?

00:25:38.200 I don't care because, you know what, what about our kids?

00:25:40.920 What about the kids that have been killed in our kibbutzim?

00:25:45.460 What about our kids?

00:25:46.740 We are done.

00:25:47.640 This is not the same equation.

00:25:49.020 We are not dealing with people.

00:25:50.180 Again, the people of Gaza, if they want a new government, then choose differently.

00:25:56.660 Stop choosing these people.

00:25:58.280 Stop praising these people.

00:25:59.820 Stop showing all these videos and glorifying your people.

00:26:03.180 Enough is enough.

00:26:04.020 And the Palestinian Authority, one more thing for them. 0.99

00:26:06.340 They have been paying terrorists $3,500 per month for killing a Jew. 0.74

00:26:14.820 Do you understand that?

00:26:15.940 It comes from money that Europe is giving them and the U.S. is giving them.

00:26:19.700 And we have been saying this for years.

00:26:21.600 Why are you OK with them paying for terrorists?

00:26:25.020 If you murder someone, you get paid here. 0.90

00:26:28.280 So don't you tell me that these guys are OK and these guys are evil. 0.91

00:26:33.220 Enough is enough.

00:26:34.620 Your lie has been exposed.

00:26:36.240 We are resilient.

00:26:37.480 We are resilient.

00:26:38.820 We are here.

00:26:39.660 And we will take it.

00:26:40.740 And we will be on the other side of this.

00:26:43.060 You will not win.

00:26:44.380 Israel is here to stay. 1.00

00:26:45.700 And that's the message that I have for everybody.

00:26:47.200 What I found really good, you know, amazing about the way she articulated it was that it was everything I keep hearing in Hebrew,

00:26:56.240 but perfectly articulated in English, which is sometimes hard because some of the Hebrew words don't translate.

00:27:03.420 And sometimes, you know, an example was I was talking to a soldier, an officer who basically said to me he was,

00:27:12.400 and this was his wording, I was excited when this happened.

00:27:17.760 But he didn't mean excited as in English as excited.

00:27:22.060 It didn't sound good.

00:27:22.620 We couldn't actually use it in the footage because I feel like people would watch that and think,

00:27:26.960 why are you excited by the terrorist attack?

00:27:28.980 But it's not.

00:27:29.700 It was his translation of the emotions he was feeling.

00:27:35.720 He was trying to say he was emotional, which it translates.

00:27:39.340 If you translate the Hebrew word, it just comes to excited.

00:27:43.080 So, yeah, it's – what else happened today?

00:27:47.920 I'm just trying to go through it so much.

00:27:51.920 The place is on edge.

00:27:54.080 I've never seen Israel like this. 0.99

00:27:56.120 And I was here in the Second Lebanon War.

00:27:59.000 I served and I remember being here through what was a big war at the time.

00:28:03.900 But it's very different this time.

00:28:05.740 This time, the sense of unity is amazing.

00:28:09.080 That is similar to what I saw in Lebanon there.

00:28:13.140 You know, one of the stories we captured today were soldiers that pulled us over,

00:28:17.240 telling us that we have to give credit to a burger store because they went in

00:28:22.200 and they basically purchased burgers for the entire platoon.

00:28:26.420 And they went to pay.

00:28:28.160 They raised the money to pay for it, but they just wouldn't accept the money.

00:28:31.780 And they said, no, this is our donation to you guys.

00:28:35.500 Keep it up.

00:28:36.120 Use the money for something else.

00:28:37.360 Avi Yaminif for Rebel News in southern Israel.

00:28:40.880 Now, we were just here filming another story where soldiers pulled up to us and said,

00:28:45.780 you need to go to that burger shop and give them credit because,

00:28:52.040 like we're seeing across this country,

00:28:54.940 this shop refused to take the soldiers' money for the entire platoon.

00:28:58.980 So, we have hamburgers for a lot of our guys.

00:29:01.880 We wanted to order to treat everyone.

00:29:05.960 We're all working hard to defend the country and do whatever we can to defend the people.

00:29:11.160 We went to go and do the order and the owner of the burger place BBB here told us it's on the house.

00:29:21.340 You guys deserve it and they treated us.

00:29:24.660 And it goes to show how great everyone's coming together to defend the country and just supporting by any way they can.

00:29:33.080 Are you seeing this kind of broad support widely or is this a unique story?

00:29:38.300 I would say from what we've been seeing, there's been a lot of special people doing amazing donations

00:29:43.520 and doing everyone, even if they're not serving in the army or they're not connected, finding and doing their part.

00:29:49.360 But this was a very pleasant surprise and it goes to show that the sacrifice that everyone will make to defend our people and defend our country.

00:29:58.460 And Israel's been in a pretty divided place the last few years.

00:30:01.500 Has this attack and basically now the response, is that uniting the country?

00:30:07.780 Does anyone even remember the protests about the law reform?

00:30:11.780 Is there a shift now?

00:30:12.760 I would say from my opinion, what I see and throughout history, regardless of what goes on in the country

00:30:21.720 when there's serious situations like this that threaten our existence or threaten our, really hurt us,

00:30:29.500 like this terrible terrorist attack happened, people drop the issues that seem minor at certain points

00:30:35.740 and realize what's really important, restoring peace and defending our country.

00:30:39.280 So I would say to answer that, these things are put on the back burner.

00:30:45.000 And at this point, it's regardless, left, right, people are coming together and realize what we have to do.

00:30:50.720 So they told us to come in here and give him credit.

00:30:53.820 He doesn't want credit.

00:30:55.160 So first I want to understand what is happening in Israel now from that side of things, besides the conflict.

00:31:02.040 A lot of people, due to the situation, are in the spirit of volunteering.

00:31:07.160 You know, with all the war that we are suffering right now.

00:31:11.720 So I think it's what unite us as Jews, as the Israeli countries for Jews, that in time of crisis,

00:31:20.260 we are united together and we help each other.

00:31:24.020 We're always united when something happens.

00:31:26.720 And we're also united in our hearts, always, even when we have arguments.

00:31:31.480 So it's like a married couple, you know.

00:31:33.080 If the owner now, which I'm going to go and see, if the owner's watching this, what would you say to him?

00:31:38.120 I would say, thank you very much.

00:31:39.840 We really appreciate it.

00:31:41.580 It's really going to help our soldiers keep the morale up and make sure we have enough protein

00:31:47.520 and the stuff we need to stay strong and fight to the best of our abilities.

00:31:52.260 And that's what you see here is really a country that has been the most divided in its history has come together so quickly.

00:32:03.740 And that's, you know, an incredible thing.

00:32:06.040 You think Hamas, they don't realize, well, I don't think they realized when they did this

00:32:11.320 that they would actually solve one problem that Israel's had for a few years.

00:32:16.440 And that's been the disunity and the divide in the country.

00:32:19.620 You know, you had weekly protests and people really angry at each other, brothers and sisters, family.

00:32:27.520 My own family has been split over the last few years.

00:32:30.540 My mother goes to protest in support of the judicial review reforms.

00:32:37.300 And her son, my brother, goes to Antia.

00:32:40.920 And that's how divided the country was, whereas right now there is this unity as in we're in this together.

00:32:47.760 And you see it playing out on every level, which I guess is something nice coming out of a tough time.

00:32:59.640 It is dark times here and you can feel it.

00:33:02.260 It is heavy in the air and I'm grateful for the fact that I'm here to be able to record it

00:33:11.240 and show the world it, thanks to all the viewers.

00:33:14.800 And we'll keep, we'll go out there every day no matter where it takes us.

00:33:19.520 The URL again is thetruthaboutthewar.com.

00:33:26.840 Ezra, till tomorrow, take care.

00:33:32.260 Hey, welcome back.

00:33:42.680 Your Letters to Me.

00:33:43.320 Terry Purvis says, France stopped these kinds of protests in the streets.

00:33:48.420 Why aren't our Canadian government doing the same thing?

00:33:51.240 I saw the same news that you did that France has banned pro-Hamas protests.

00:33:56.140 And then later today I saw images of massive protests with tens of thousands of people just ignoring the law.

00:34:05.120 And what's France going to do?

00:34:07.060 Like literally, what are they going to do when 10, 20,000 people show up for an illegal protest?

00:34:13.240 What are you going to do?

00:34:15.380 Alpha Mike says, didn't Justin set up hate speech laws for just such an eventuality?

00:34:19.400 Or is it only for use when the rainbow people are involved?

00:34:22.760 Hey, that's a great point.

00:34:23.680 You know, there's this far left wing NGO that's affiliated with Antifa thugs.

00:34:29.080 It's called anti-hate, which is sort of a joke because it, you know, it's the opposite.

00:34:33.660 That's a deceptive labeling.

00:34:35.860 They receive an enormous amount of money from Justin Trudeau to call out hate.

00:34:40.440 Well, I think we've had the most hateful week in 80 years.

00:34:45.380 And we've had hate rallies calling for death and atrocities.

00:34:50.120 And this group, the Canadian Anti-Hate Coalition, hasn't said a word in a week because it's the kind of hate they like.

00:35:01.100 They have no criticism of Hamas or left-wing hate, do they?

00:35:06.040 Blizzara 316 says, I'm on the hunt for a conservative viewpoint that at least explains why people are protesting Israel's actions instead of just being baffled and outraged.

00:35:17.000 Listen, every single war in history has civilian casualties.

00:35:20.780 The Second World War had tens of millions of civilian casualties.

00:35:25.160 And by the way, America contributed to that.

00:35:27.880 And I think that dropping the nuclear bombs on Japan were the right thing to do. 1.00

00:35:31.840 So it's estimated that a land invasion would have had a one million casualty count, which, I mean, imagine a million lives lost to invade Japan.

00:35:42.620 So dropping two atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was atrocious.

00:35:47.520 And in some ways, you could say a violation of the laws of war.

00:35:50.840 You could say that targeting cities instead of military bases.

00:35:53.640 But those tens of thousands of lives lost probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives by averting the need for a full invasion.

00:36:03.720 But all of this goes to my point.

00:36:05.440 There is no such thing as a war without civilian casualties.

00:36:09.520 The difference is, do you try to kill people who are civilians or not?

00:36:13.480 As we saw in these terrorist attacks, killing civilians was their emphasis.

00:36:18.200 It was their highest goal.

00:36:19.420 Yes, they did kill soldiers when they saw them, but they specifically, their main target was this youth dance party. 0.91

00:36:27.960 And they raped and murdered and took as hostage those young women. 0.81

00:36:33.000 That was their purpose. 0.59

00:36:35.440 It's a very different thing than the accidental or collateral death of civilians.

00:36:40.360 And yet, be prepared for the pro-Hamas media to declare that Israel's attempt to fight back and minimize civilian casualties is morally more grave than Hamas' deliberate strategy of targeting Israeli civilians.

00:36:57.640 Well, that's our show for today.

00:36:58.940 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:37:04.160 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:37:05.500 And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - October 12, 2023

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Does Israel want Canada's help？ Or does it just want us to not interfere with them helping themselves？

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