Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Eastern Canadians resent Trump tariffs, yet punish freedom-loving Albertans

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I've been thinking a lot about Alberta. I'm born and raised in Alberta,

00:00:03.800 and I'm sort of an Albertan in heart, even though I've been out in Toronto for more than a decade.

00:00:07.780 I'm going to do my best to try and, I don't know, explain what's going on in Alberta through the

00:00:13.300 lens of Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal. I'm going to try and help Central Canadians understand

00:00:19.660 maybe what Albertans feel these days. And I have an analogy that might work. So that's up next. But

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00:01:33.400 our independent journalism. Tonight, what should Torontonians and Montrealers think

00:01:55.960 of what's going on in Alberta? It's May 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:03.400 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:15.040 Hi, everybody. You know, I've been in Toronto for a while now. I'm still Albertan at heart,

00:02:19.800 and I think I'm Albertan enough to understand what's going on out there. I still visit Alberta

00:02:25.280 all the time. My folks are there. Let me translate for my fellow Easterners what I think is happening.

00:02:31.420 Remember how Eastern Canadians, Central Canadians felt when Donald Trump put tariffs on the prestige

00:02:38.040 industries in Quebec and Ontario in a manner that seemed unfair and irrational and just out of the

00:02:44.340 blue? And rational or not, it hurt the Ontario economy and cost jobs. And how do people in Ontario

00:02:52.680 Quebec feel knowing that Trump is still vowing to move Canada's car and steel industries to the U.S.?

00:02:59.820 He said that when Mark Carney was right there. Well, we'll be talking about different things. You know,

00:03:04.940 we want to protect our automobile business, and so does Mark. But we want to protect, we want to make

00:03:11.600 the automobiles, and we want to, you know, we have a tremendous abundance of energy more than any country.

00:03:17.620 We have just in Alaska alone, ANWR has been reopened now. ANWR is probably the largest find anywhere in

00:03:23.560 the world. They say it's larger than Saudi Arabia. I don't know, but it's a lot. But we have tremendous

00:03:29.100 amounts of energy. Other countries don't. We're both lucky in that way. They have energy. We have energy.

00:03:34.140 We have more than we can ever use and more than we could ever sell, actually. And you have the same

00:03:39.500 thing. So we're two countries that are very lucky. If you look at China, they don't have that.

00:03:43.560 You know, it's a big disadvantage. Other countries, most countries don't have, you know,

00:03:47.820 most countries don't have that. So Canada and us, we have a lot of advantages over other places.

00:03:55.440 I'd like Ontarians and Quebecers to remember how they felt that their own political autonomy

00:04:01.360 and sovereignty was being challenged and insulted by Trump's proposal to become a 51st state.

00:04:07.620 That it felt like an indecent proposal, if you remember that old movie.

00:04:10.940 And even if it was just an empty taunt, it showed disrespect. Like if a stranger made

00:04:16.920 a marriage proposal to someone who was already married. Well, Alberta has been doing all of that. 1.00

00:04:24.020 That exact same thing. Ontario has been doing that. Ottawa has been doing that to Alberta

00:04:29.640 for generations. And it's been rewarded election after election by voters in Ontario and Quebec.

00:04:36.680 If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on the support of Paul. Now, Donald Trump

00:04:41.200 has an excuse. His job is America first. Nothing else matters to him. What's Mark Carney's excuse?

00:04:48.500 What's Justin Trudeau's excuse before him? What's Canada's excuse? Frankly,

00:04:52.920 Trump imposed tariffs on Canada, typically 10% or 25%. Ottawa blocked Alberta and Saskatchewan pipelines

00:05:02.000 altogether. Banned tankers altogether requires a gender analysis on new industrial projects, 1.00

00:05:07.840 if you can believe it. They're talking about a production cap on the oil sands. They've threatened

00:05:13.200 to transition the industry. That means shut it down. That's like a 100% tariff. It's an outright veto.

00:05:22.220 Stopping a pipeline is worse than a tariff. Alberta and Saskatchewan voted for a grand total of three

00:05:28.220 liberal MPs out of all those districts in the last election. But Alberta and Saskatchewan,

00:05:32.880 they are not the deciders in Canada, are they? They're just the people who keep paying the bills

00:05:37.840 for the rest of the country, equalization and all that. You're about to see something very interesting,

00:05:43.300 though. In the last Quebec referendum, the entire Canadian establishment sent a message to Quebec.

00:05:48.500 We love you. Please come back. Don't leave. We'll work it out within Canada.

00:05:53.040 Quebec received countless political, economic, and constitutional favors, plus a lot of good old

00:06:00.180 fashioned cash. You might even say that Quebec separatism has been a bit of a sham for decades.

00:06:06.700 It's just a good cop, bad cop routine of fleecing Alberta. It's not really serious. I don't think they

00:06:13.840 actually want to go. It's a permanent revolution. It's sort of theatrical. I mean, what's more revealing

00:06:21.020 than the fact that Bloc Québécois MPs collect their parliamentary pensions? That's how long they've

00:06:26.400 been around. But watch for the opposite response to Alberta separatism. There is a genuine hatred

00:06:33.480 against Alberta in parts of Ontario and Quebec. Towards Alberta and what I call Alberta-ness,

00:06:41.960 being Alberta-ish. The only Albertans respected by the CBC or Mark Carney are the underminers,

00:06:48.320 like Naheed Nenshi and Rachel Notley, people who promised to destroy the Alberta oil and gas

00:06:54.520 industry and the Alberta freedom spirit from the inside. Albertans who are Alberta-ish,

00:07:00.940 they're shunned, they're demonized, they're mocked, they're attacked. Look at how the CBC has tried to

00:07:04.980 destroy Danielle Smith, the premier of Alberta. She was the only female premier in the entire country

00:07:10.060 for years, actually. Normally, that would make her a CBC favorite on DEI grounds alone, but

00:07:16.980 she's the wrong kind of woman. She's too Albertan, so they hate her and they lie about her daily. But 1.00

00:07:23.580 buckle up now. Every national media company, every national corporation, every bank, every NGO,

00:07:30.800 every community activist will now be deployed to denigrate and smear Albertans who are just tired

00:07:36.320 of Ottawa's war on the West. Again, if you're from Toronto or Montreal and need help imagining things,

00:07:41.260 picture Trump-style taxes, tariffs, and other economic warfare. But for 40 years, I mean,

00:07:48.380 going back before the national energy program in the 1980s even, all from your own country,

00:07:54.340 not a foreign leader. Albertans aren't even angry anymore, I don't think. I think they're just sort

00:08:00.000 of done. A friendly tip to my friends in Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, if you're a politician or a pundit

00:08:06.480 using the same language you used with the trucker convoy, you're racist. You're a fringe minority 0.92

00:08:12.520 with unacceptable views. You're a crackpot. You're MAGA. You're January 6th. If you're saying things 1.00

00:08:19.740 like that, think about it. You're not actually trying to persuade anyone, are you? You're

00:08:26.560 demonstrating that you hate Alberta, or at least the Albertaness of it. It's an interesting Venn diagram,

00:08:32.360 I think. The people who called for a Team Canada approach and who promised to end internal trade

00:08:38.320 barriers as a response to Trump, they're the same ones denigrating Albertans who were asking for an

00:08:44.160 end to Ottawa's sanctions. And what is a pipeline ban other than a non-tariff barrier? The Canadian

00:08:50.960 establishment demonized Donald Trump as a bully, an economic illiterate, and an unreliable friend and 0.99

00:08:58.120 ally. But they, the Ontario-Quebec establishment, the Ottawa establishment, they are all of those 0.97

00:09:04.580 things and worse towards Albertans. At least Trump kept telling Canada he cherished us as he shook us

00:09:12.160 down. Carney, Trudeau, Guilbeau, they genuinely hate Alberta. And it shows. We're going to have a

00:09:21.140 town hall meetings next week, one in Edmonton on Monday, one in Calgary on Wednesday. I think

00:09:28.000 they're pretty much sold out. You can find details on our website, rebelnews.com. If you're asking me

00:09:34.100 how we're going to cover this journalistically, the answer is respectfully. We're not going to call

00:09:39.380 anyone crackpots. We're not going to call anyone MAGA North. And if anyone does, ask them, are you really

00:09:46.260 trying to keep Canada together or are you just showing how much you hate Albertans? Because that's

00:09:52.260 not persuasiveness. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:09:58.000 You know, something completely astonishing happened during the election. It was truly shocking. It

00:10:12.200 was like it was out of a Hollywood movie. And then everyone just sort of forgot about it. I'm

00:10:17.040 talking about the astonishing case of a liberal candidate who was actually an incumbent MP, Paul

00:10:22.440 Chiang, who said multiple times to journalists, that there was a million dollar Hong Kong dollar

00:10:29.020 bounty on one of his political rivals, a bounty offered by the Chinese government. And he encouraged 1.00

00:10:38.140 any people, Chinese Canadians or others, to physically kidnap this political rival of his,

00:10:46.440 Joe Tay is his name, and deliver him to the Chinese consulate to collect the reward. I know it sounds 0.73

00:10:53.180 too crazy to believe, but it was all captured on video. Take a look at this.

00:10:57.020 The other person that's running, most probably is, you know, the Chinese community, Joe Tay.

00:11:02.260 He's looking for the nomination. The Chinese media knows him. He was in the media business in Hong Kong.

00:11:14.760 And here in Canada, he's a radio host or, I don't know, for Sinktown media or, so their child, he was a media person. So that's all he did, all he's like. But also right now, he is wanted by the Chinese government. And there's a $1 million reward on his head.

00:11:32.500 So they want, if you guys want to pick him up and take him to the Chinese consulate, you make him a million dollars. I'm just joking. But there is a arrest warrant out for him from the government of China. And there is a reward for him. But apart from that, I can't say more than that.

00:11:48.960 That reverberated, not just within the Chinese Canadian community, which is very dense in the neighborhoods of Markham, but in the general meeting, too. And Mark Carney was pressed on the subject. And he, he stood by his man, not the Canadian democracy activist, Joe Tay, who was threatened. He stood by the threatener. Take a look at this.

00:12:13.720 The comments were deeply offensive. This is a terrible lapse of judgment by Mr. Chang. He has apologized for those comments. He has apologized directly now to the person that he mentioned. Apologized directly to him yesterday. I've spoken to Mr. Chang as well over the course of the weekend. I understand his position.

00:12:43.720 He is a veteran policeman. He is a veteran policeman with more than a quarter century of service to his community. 28 years of defending rights in this community.

00:13:00.720 And he will continue with his candidacy going forward, having made those apologies very clearly to the individual, to the community, and moving forward to serve.

00:13:13.880 And he stood by him. And he stood by him. And a week went by. And only then did Paul Chang resign. But not with Mark Carney ever criticizing him. It was just absolutely shocking.

00:13:27.540 And Chang's successor was the same again. Not issuing threats to kidnap anybody. But he was a Chinese-Canadian police officer, which is outstanding. I think it's important that Chinese communities have a police officer who understands them, speaks the language, as long as he's meeting the standards of being a good cop.

00:13:47.380 But incredibly, he acted as if he was representing the Chinese state, not the Canadian state. Here's a video of him singing Chinese nationalist songs at a Chinese political event.

00:14:00.580 Absolutely astonishing. All of this just happened. The election came. Mark Carney won, including a dominating majority in the greater Toronto area.

00:14:24.980 But would you look at this? Absolutely shocking. The headlines I'm going to read now from our friend Sam Cooper at TheBureau.News. Let me read this headline and then I'll call on Sam.

00:14:35.380 Breaking. Hong Kong police detain relatives of Canadian candidate targeted by Beijing election interference. Move follows aggressive People's Republic of China disinformation against Joe Tay.

00:14:50.140 RCMP security security warnings and raises pressure on Prime Minister Mark Carney after a White House meeting.

00:14:57.680 And Sam Cooper joins us now. Sam.

00:15:00.700 This feels like a five-alarm fire. Although Joe Tay's relatives, I understand, are not Canadian nationals, they are so obviously being arrested as a way to put pressure on him.

00:15:13.300 Sam, you have this story. It's outstanding in TheBureau.News. Let me ask you, has there been a response from the Canadian government, if not from Mark Carney, from the Foreign Affairs Department at all, from Global Affairs Canada?

00:15:28.100 It's a day after the story, and I reached out to the Prime Minister's office with the full story and asking for a response.

00:15:36.700 There's been absolutely no response from Mr. Carney's office yet. CSIS, Canada's intelligence agency, also received my questions, including were they looking into complaints that Joe Tay's campaign potentially was stalked during the election campaign?

00:15:54.340 That's something that I also reported, and CSIS has informed me that they're working on a response, so certainly any new information that I get on this story that I've been chasing, I will update, but deafening silence from Mr. Carney, who, as you rightly point out, has said nothing, essentially, in nothing to tell China that it's absolutely unacceptable what's happened to Mr. Tay.

00:16:23.860 And as you say, and as you say, he stood by his candidate right to the end and hasn't acted.

00:16:31.320 You know, I left out the worst part of the story, Sam, and that's at the RCMP, and you correct me if I'm getting this even one word wrong, that the RCMP cautioned Joe Tay against campaigning in public, that they implied there was some threat against him.

00:16:48.600 And instead of rallying around him, supporting him, protecting him, helping him, they said, don't go out there.

00:16:55.480 It would be like telling, and this has happened in some jurisdictions, telling Jewish people not to go out wearing a Yarmulke because you'll be attacked by Andy Simmons.

00:17:04.160 Just stay home.

00:17:04.980 Well, no, your job is to protect me.

00:17:06.600 It felt the same, telling Joe Tay, don't go out on the streets of Canada to campaign.

00:17:11.600 You're under threat.

00:17:12.580 Did that actually happen?

00:17:13.840 Am I misremembering?

00:17:14.600 Just remembering, because that sounds too crazy to be true.

00:17:17.860 No, Ezra, I reported this based on certain sources close to the campaign.

00:17:23.000 Remember, this is a very sensitive, ongoing story, so certain people can't be identified.

00:17:28.200 But I confirmed with 100% confidence that the day that the site task force came out with that public disclosure saying that broad cyber operations against Joe Tay had been rolled out, on that same day, I was informed that Mr. Tay was advised by RCMP for safety reasons.

00:17:50.660 It would be better for him not to campaign in person, on that day at least.

00:17:57.940 And the New York Times followed my reporting with similar reporting within days.

00:18:03.000 So that is the fact.

00:18:05.380 And you're right.

00:18:06.260 I mean, certainly the RCMP have a job to do to keep Mr. Tay safe.

00:18:11.220 But as Canadians, we should be asking, well, with a way to do that, to give Mr. Tay officers around him so that he could campaign and run a fair campaign in person.

00:18:27.360 And as the New York Times reported, supporting and corroborating my reports, he ran a quiet campaign.

00:18:33.240 And he did very well at that.

00:18:34.900 Yeah.

00:18:35.560 Wow.

00:18:36.300 You know, this story reminds me, I had the pleasure of meeting a man named Joe Wong, who is with Falun Gong, which is a religious sect that the Chinese Communist Party wants to destroy.

00:18:49.120 And he's a journalist in Canada here.

00:18:51.800 And he said that his family member, I forget if it was his brother, was back in China in the hospital.

00:18:58.360 And his brother called on the phone and said that there was secret police there and handed the phone to the secret police who threatened him to stop criticizing China.

00:19:07.780 Joe Wong continued doing it.

00:19:09.120 Imagine how terrifying that is.

00:19:10.460 Your own blood, your brother, calls you from the hospital and says, the secret police are here.

00:19:17.080 They have something to say.

00:19:18.100 You would feel violated.

00:19:20.180 You would feel terrified.

00:19:21.260 Well, let me, I'm going to quote from your story again, Sam.

00:19:24.720 The move to detain and question Tay's cousin and the man's wife in Hong Kong, reported by multiple sources, including the Hong Kong Free Press, appears aimed at ramping up pressure on Liberal Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:19:36.860 So they're doing the same.

00:19:38.320 They're going after the family.

00:19:39.540 And that's going to terrify.

00:19:40.840 It's going to terrify the Chinese-Canadian community.

00:19:43.640 And I think that's what a lot of this is.

00:19:45.340 When you have these Chinese-Canadian police officers and it's revealed that they're taking orders as much from China as they are from the police boss, that's terrifying because all these people who have come to Canada hoping to be free, they've still got to look over their shoulder.

00:20:00.860 My heart goes out to these folks, Sam.

00:20:04.100 I agree, Ezra.

00:20:06.840 As Joe Tay himself said, when Paul Chien issued an apology saying that he was just joking when he suggested Mr. Tay could be turned over to Chinese officials in Toronto, Joe Tay rightly said, apology not accepted.

00:20:21.760 That message was CCP statecraft from the Liberal MP, and it was not only aimed at Joe Tay, it was aimed broadly at the Chinese-Canadian community saying, do not support democracy.

00:20:36.100 Do not vote for Joe Tay.

00:20:38.160 And look, he was right.

00:20:39.720 Now his relatives, under questioning in Hong Kong, again, that message being sent out to the Chinese-Canadian community, do not vote for conservatives because they're harder on China than the Liberals.

00:20:56.000 And look, who benefited from those very same cyber operations as site disclosed and the Bureau reported?

00:21:02.600 Prime Minister Mark Carney, who remains silent on this issue.

00:21:05.900 So the damage continues, Ezra.

00:21:07.680 You know, that's right.

00:21:09.220 There's this committee called SITE, S-I-T-E.

00:21:13.320 This is a SITE task force, and I forget exactly who's on it.

00:21:16.740 It's a combination of political and national security and foreign affairs.

00:21:21.740 It's sort of a different multidisciplinary committee, and their job during the election is to sort of warn the public if there is some evidence of foreign interference.

00:21:32.200 And I remember when they announced the formation of this committee, I thought, oh, brother, here we go.

00:21:36.400 Because politically, people say, oh, Donald Trump is interfering.

00:21:41.660 Or I remember when the CBC had a reporter who said that Vladimir Putin was organizing the truckers.

00:21:47.280 And I thought, oh, brother, this SITE task force is just going to call conservatives bad names.

00:21:53.280 It didn't.

00:21:54.420 It warned about China supporting Mark Carney.

00:21:57.080 I was actually surprised they were doing their job.

00:22:00.200 And again, I'm not saying the story was ignored.

00:22:02.940 It was covered.

00:22:04.240 But it's almost like it's gone down the memory hole.

00:22:08.460 And your thesis here, Sam, that this is a test of Mark Carney, I think is completely right.

00:22:14.860 And I think so far Mark Carney has not risen to the challenge.

00:22:17.620 I agree.

00:22:19.500 It has to be a test.

00:22:21.380 Look, the man met with Donald Trump, and it was supposed to be elbows up Mark Carney.

00:22:26.540 Very clearly, it wasn't.

00:22:28.400 China knows in the private closed-door meeting, Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and Mark Carney were having some very serious discussions about how China fits into that tariff battle.

00:22:39.340 And we don't know what we're discussed, but surely we can assess that China is watching Mark Carney very closely.

00:22:47.700 And I do believe they're testing him.

00:22:50.160 Will he come out?

00:22:51.340 Will he tell Canadians?

00:22:53.240 He, Global Affairs Canada, has confirmed Mr. Tay's relatives have been detained, and that's unacceptable.

00:22:59.600 I'm waiting to hear that message.

00:23:01.440 But certainly, that's what a Canadian leader should be saying.

00:23:04.520 And he has failed that test so far, Ezra.

00:23:06.660 That is as true as the morning shine.

00:23:09.820 Yeah.

00:23:10.200 I think Canada did not rise to the occasion when the two Michaels were, I think, kidnapped is the right term and held for years.

00:23:17.980 Well, Sam, it's great to catch up with you, and I'm grateful for your generous time.

00:23:21.880 You're so busy, and I see you being interviewed as a subject matter expert on other media, so we're really grateful to you to make time for us.

00:23:29.620 The best way to follow you, if I'm not mistaken, is at thebureau.news.

00:23:34.580 Is that right?

00:23:36.660 You got it right, Ezra, and it's almost two years.

00:23:39.320 I've been up and running 30,000 subscribers, so it's growing, and it's getting traction globally.

00:23:45.740 Yeah, so if you're a viewer who likes getting things faster than the mainstream media, Sam is often the guy breaking these stories.

00:23:53.480 So you may get your news one, two, three days faster, sometimes weeks faster, by going to Sam's thebureau.news than waiting to hear from it from other sources.

00:24:03.320 So once again, Sam, thanks for giving the inside scoop to our people.

00:24:06.920 Good luck out there, and we'll keep following what you're doing.

00:24:09.820 Thanks, Ezra.

00:24:10.400 Hey, welcome back.

00:24:23.200 Your letters to me about my quick trip to Bermuda.

00:24:26.340 Have you ever seen such a quick trip in your life?

00:24:28.200 Jojo Pickett says, this is what I expect from journalism, not what I see from CBC, CDB, Global, etc.

00:24:35.200 Well, I mean, I didn't do a lot when you think about it.

00:24:38.660 I just read what was published already.

00:24:41.820 I reviewed some videos.

00:24:43.080 I went to some of the SEC, Securities and Exchange Commission, filings of these Brookfield companies.

00:24:49.320 There are literally thousands of documents.

00:24:51.720 Obviously, I only read a small sample.

00:24:54.280 And I started to think about what could be happening in Bermuda.

00:24:59.020 And then I just went there to see with my own eyes.

00:25:01.260 It wasn't a particularly complex action.

00:25:04.500 And we managed to do it in one day because I thought, you know, we're just really going to see what's there.

00:25:08.880 We can do that in a few hours.

00:25:10.420 So that managed to save us probably two grand in hotel rooms.

00:25:15.140 The reason I tell you that is it wasn't particularly onerous.

00:25:18.180 But I thought it was interesting.

00:25:19.600 And I thought it was interesting to engage with Brookfield's PR team who really said absolutely nothing.

00:25:27.400 But I felt very journalistic-y.

00:25:29.980 And when I was down there, remember, I asked the bike guy, the bike store guy,

00:25:33.420 has anyone else from Canada even bothered to inquire?

00:25:37.120 And he said, no, I promise you.

00:25:39.280 If it was Pierre Polyev or Stephen Harper or some other conservative who had an interest in Bermuda,

00:25:45.760 oh, it would be a regular stop for all the other journalists.

00:25:49.700 Rosemary Brown says, I had an uncle who used to be a banker.

00:25:53.220 He said, never trust a banker.

00:25:57.300 Well, you know, I don't, I'm not thrilled with Canada's banks myself.

00:26:02.100 But this isn't even about banking, I think.

00:26:05.300 This is about tax tricks.

00:26:08.080 It's about pretending that your business operations are in a place where they're clearly not.

00:26:14.080 So you can take advantage of a tax dodge.

00:26:17.740 And, you know, I'm told that that's legal, although the CRA is in court fighting against Brookfield.

00:26:24.320 But I'm not even here to say, is it legal or not?

00:26:27.620 I'm not a judge.

00:26:28.340 I'm not a tax law expert.

00:26:29.700 But how can you be a prime minister extracting maximum money from the little people when you hide your own profits?

00:26:38.180 It's just not, it's not ethical.

00:26:41.700 Geek at Heart says, if Carney isn't a permanent resident of Canada, if Carney doesn't pay his taxes in Canada, how is he running Canada?

00:26:49.400 He shouldn't be allowed in Canadian politics.

00:26:51.600 Well, I don't think we know some basic facts about him.

00:26:54.920 When did he move back to Canada?

00:26:56.640 Does he even have a Canadian driver's license or a health care car?

00:27:01.420 Where does he actually live?

00:27:02.540 I know his wife lives in New York.

00:27:04.860 We don't know anything about this guy.

00:27:07.560 We know he's an international man of mystery.

00:27:10.440 Three passports.

00:27:12.340 Former director of the World Economic Forum.

00:27:14.520 So the world's his, and he just sort of picked up a little bauble called Canada along the way.

00:27:20.420 Didn't feel very democratic.

00:27:22.800 Well, that's our show for today.

00:27:24.860 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:27:37.740 Ottawa is breaking this country, and 50% of Westerners are saying maybe it's time we let them.

00:27:43.040 Now let's cut through the political spin and get right to the truth.

00:27:45.940 Alberta and Saskatchewan didn't break Canada.

00:27:48.840 Ottawa and successive liberal governments did.

00:27:51.660 And if this country comes apart at the seams, it won't be because the West walked away.

00:27:56.520 It will be because the Laurentian elite shoved us right out the door.

00:28:01.080 This week, the Angus Reid Institute dropped a bombshell poll.

00:28:04.560 50% of Albertans and Saskatchewanians now say they support holding a referendum on independence.

00:28:11.600 In Alberta, 36% say they'd vote to leave.

00:28:17.160 In Saskatchewan, it's 34%.

00:28:19.140 And while the hardcore definitely leave no matter what crowd sits at 19% in Alberta and 15% in Saskatchewan,

00:28:27.440 that still represents hundreds of thousands of people ready to exit Confederation today,

00:28:34.700 no matter what the liberals in Ottawa do to try to keep us here.

00:28:39.140 Now, let that sink in.

00:28:41.840 That's not fringe.

00:28:43.280 That's a movement.

00:28:44.700 One that Ottawa and the liberals built with their own arrogance.

00:28:49.400 Now, why is this happening?

00:28:50.620 Well, because Ottawa and the liberals just refuse to listen.

00:28:53.980 They refuse to change.

00:28:55.420 They refuse to respect us.

00:28:57.320 Instead, we get Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines Law,

00:29:01.080 still on the books and will remain on the books, according to Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:29:05.340 Bill C-69, with your plans to build infrastructure in Canada, do you plan to repeal Bill C-69?

00:29:12.400 We do not plan to repeal Bill C-69, to answer your question correctly.

00:29:17.680 A suffocating emissions cap that targets Alberta and Saskatchewan while letting global polluters off the hook.

00:29:24.120 No national vision whatsoever for a West-East pipeline,

00:29:28.000 leaving our energy landlocked and our people unemployed.

00:29:31.300 And what else does this poll show?

00:29:33.700 Well, that we're not unmovable separatists.

00:29:36.880 We're desperate realists.

00:29:39.000 We're actually quite reluctant.

00:29:40.860 According to the Angus Reid data,

00:29:43.220 69% of Alberta leave voters and 61% in Saskatchewan say they'd vote to stay

00:29:48.300 if the liberals let us build a pipeline across the country.

00:29:53.160 62% in Alberta and 56% in Saskatchewan would stay if Bill C-69 was repealed.

00:29:58.580 61% of Alberta separatists and 54% of Saskatchewan ones say ending the emissions cap would convince them to vote stay.

00:30:08.360 So the liberals could put out this fire tomorrow.

00:30:11.000 Oh, but they won't.

00:30:12.260 Why?

00:30:12.660 Because they don't see the West as a partner.

00:30:14.340 They see us as a piggy bank.

00:30:15.980 We supply the resources, we pay the bills, and then they punish us for it.

00:30:19.640 And let's talk about how this could backfire fast.

00:30:23.100 Angus Reid polling also found that if British Columbia blocked access to tidewater,

00:30:29.560 or if Quebec vetoed future pipelines, support for separation would increase across the board

00:30:35.920 by as much as 20 percentage points among the soft-leave voters.

00:30:40.980 It would radicalize them.

00:30:43.020 Even Indigenous protests won't hold back the separatist tide.

00:30:46.600 Among the definitely-leave group, a full majority said that major Indigenous resistance would actually make them more likely to support separation.

00:30:56.240 Here's one number that you won't hear on the CBC.

00:30:59.040 71% of Alberta separatists and 74% of Saskatchewan separatists would vote to stay if the federal Conservatives formed government.

00:31:09.080 First translation, this isn't so much a separatist revolution as it is a desperate cry for fairness.

00:31:18.240 But if Ottawa keeps treating Alberta and Saskatchewan-like provinces to be punished, taxed, and controlled,

00:31:23.340 then maybe we've got no choice but to take our future into our own hands, whatever that may look like.

00:31:28.580 Because how long can you stay in a relationship where you're the one always paying, always blamed, and then never heard?

00:31:35.120 So here's one question no one in the Laurentian bubble is asking.

00:31:39.780 Why are Westerners being asked to save a country that won't take its foot off our heads while we drown?

00:31:47.660 If Ottawa won't change, maybe it's time we did.

00:31:51.000 For Rebel News, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed.

Rebel News Podcast - May 09, 2025

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