Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Elon Musk WARS with British gov't over grooming gangs

00:00:00.000 Oh boy, the battle between Elon Musk and the labor party in the UK is just amazing.

00:00:06.140 Elon Musk is not stopping. I think he's doing 100 tweets or retweets a day.

00:00:10.200 I don't even think I'm exaggerating. It is rocking that country's politics.

00:00:15.200 I have a friend who works in the House of Lords at the Palace of Westminster in Parliament,

00:00:20.660 and he's got an interesting eye view on this. He works for a UKIP peer.

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00:01:48.480 Tonight, Elon Musk continues his war against the U.K. Labor government.

00:02:05.220 We'll have a whole discussion about it with someone who works in the British Parliament.

00:02:09.640 It's January 8th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:12.400 You're fighting for freedom!

00:02:15.700 Shame on you, you censorious!

00:02:18.200 Well, Rebel News is based in Canada.

00:02:30.020 Even though we do have a correspondent in Melbourne, Australia, the great Avi Yamini.

00:02:35.320 I call him a one-man army.

00:02:36.920 He's actually got two associates down there.

00:02:39.600 He's doing a great job in Australia.

00:02:41.700 Canada is our home.

00:02:42.660 We love Canada.

00:02:43.900 We find it amusing that Donald Trump wants to annex us.

00:02:47.100 By the way, you know, I think he's a little bit serious about Greenland.

00:02:51.700 Donald Trump Jr. just landed there to poke around to see about acquiring some real estate.

00:02:57.860 But I think that Canada is an important and independent country, and we were once, I would say, a great country.

00:03:05.060 We're not a mighty country, but, I mean, look at our history.

00:03:07.960 Look what we did.

00:03:08.560 We had a beach, Juneau Beach, right next to the big boys on D-Day.

00:03:13.620 And I think we punch above our way, to use a phrase.

00:03:16.940 I think that when Justin Trudeau announced his intentions to resign, a very interesting observation I saw was not a single G7 world leader even mentioned it.

00:03:28.540 It was just like an empty cab pulled up on Parliament Hill, and Justin Trudeau got out.

00:03:34.920 He's a nullity.

00:03:37.340 No one even cares.

00:03:40.000 Canada's our home.

00:03:40.780 We love Canada, and so we understand the gentle ribbing of Donald Trump, but we want to remain independent.

00:03:46.640 That said, we care about the world because we see the same themes here at home in Canada, around the world, sometimes further down the path.

00:03:54.760 And you know that I travel to the United Kingdom, and you know that I call it my dystopian time machine, that if I visit there, I feel like I'm five years into the future, further down the road on mass immigration. 0.99

00:04:05.860 We haven't talked a lot about what they call ultra-low emission zones, or ULEZ, and they have these spy cameras, CCTV cameras, checking who's driving on a street at a certain time.

00:04:18.060 And you get a ticket or a fine if you're not allowed to be there.

00:04:21.840 That's the 15-minute cities going down that road.

00:04:25.740 Censorship.

00:04:26.460 So I go to the United Kingdom, and I report on stories like Tommy Robinson, who's in jail right now, for violating a court order not to publish a video.

00:04:34.660 Well, that's a form, a very draconian form of censorship, the lads in solitary confinement.

00:04:40.080 And so I go to the United Kingdom because I love it, because I love the people, and I love the history, and I love the language.

00:04:45.220 I love the culture.

00:04:46.000 I love Shakespeare.

00:04:47.140 I love so many things about the U.K.

00:04:48.820 Maybe I'm searching for a classiness that I myself don't have.

00:04:53.280 But I also go there because I know what happens there today will happen to us if we don't change the course we're on.

00:04:59.620 And a lot has happened.

00:05:01.080 And they say sometimes years go by when nothing happens, and then weeks go by and years happen.

00:05:07.040 And I think it's the latter.

00:05:08.240 And joining us now to talk about a fascinating week, and it's only been a week, in the United Kingdom, is my friend, Peter McIlvenna,

00:05:16.920 who is a special assistant to a member of the House of Lords, Lord Pearson of Rannock.

00:05:21.980 What a delight to talk to Peter, who, by the way, is the host of his own show called Hearts of Oak.

00:05:28.560 Peter, nice to see you.

00:05:30.400 Great to see you, Ezra.

00:05:31.620 And I remember two years ago visiting your offices there and seeing your phenomenal setup,

00:05:36.180 and always good to see you in London, but it's an honor to join you on your show, Ezra.

00:05:40.160 Well, you're very nice to say that.

00:05:41.720 I mean, we have a pretty humble setup here, but it's all crowdfunded from our viewers,

00:05:46.820 so they'll be grateful to hear your compliments.

00:05:48.800 Before we talk about what's happened in this last week, I want to talk about your boss,

00:05:55.000 who I've had the pleasure of meeting.

00:05:56.880 He's just such a classic Brit.

00:05:58.960 He's a member of the House of Lords.

00:06:00.320 He started as a Conservative.

00:06:02.800 Then he joined the UK Independence Party, which was the pro-Brexit party.

00:06:07.740 Give us a minute on Lord Pearson, and then I'm going to show an amazing video of him in action in the House of Lords.

00:06:13.600 But tell us who Lord Pearson is.

00:06:15.780 So Lord Pearson's background was insurance.

00:06:17.860 He was a Lloyds of London name, so in insurance, and actually was concerned of how the insurance industry was scamming people.

00:06:28.600 And he stood up to Lloyds of London.

00:06:31.000 He lost that fight, but Margaret Thatcher saw his tenacity in standing up to corruption,

00:06:36.580 and Margaret Thatcher asked him to join her government.

00:06:40.840 She put him in the House of Lords.

00:06:42.540 Lord Pearson was one of Margaret Thatcher's last appointees in the House of Lords before she was stabbed in the back and removed as leader.

00:06:50.960 So Lord Pearson went in as a Conservative.

00:06:52.860 And then at the misfortune of reading, it was one of the European treaties, and said, why is no one reading this?

00:07:00.320 This is passing over power to another entity.

00:07:03.160 So he highlighted that, was one of the original Eurosceptic rebels, the original Brexit rebels, and for basically standing up to that and talking about this new little party that we're starting called UKIP, United Kingdom Independence Party, headed up by Nigel Farage.

00:07:21.140 He highlighted the good things they were doing, and because of that, he was thrown out of the Conservative Party.

00:07:27.080 So he joined UKIP.

00:07:28.840 He was UKIP leader in 2009, 2010, as being one of the most original Maastricht rebels, original Brexit rebels, and now is the only one in the House of Lords, maybe bar Baroness Cox, who speaks on Islam and the clash of Islam between the freedoms we have in the West.

00:07:46.800 And he's done that for 10 years, and he is a lone voice in the House of Lords.

00:07:52.180 That doesn't put him off.

00:07:53.700 He is a maverick.

00:07:54.720 He does what he thinks is right, and to hell with the consequences.

00:07:59.220 And that's why it's a privilege working for him for the last 10 plus years.

00:08:04.460 Yeah, he really is quite a character.

00:08:07.140 He loves the history of the UK, and I think he truly lives up to what a good member of the House of Lords is.

00:08:14.140 It wasn't just a patronage gig.

00:08:15.880 It wasn't just a, as we say in canon about our Senate, you know, you've heard the phrase a thankless task.

00:08:21.560 We call the Senate here a taskless thanks.

00:08:24.840 I think Lord Pearson takes his seat there very seriously, and I want to show you, before I go further, I had the pleasure of interviewing him a few years ago.

00:08:34.180 Let me just show you a quick clip of me talking to Lord Pearson about what it's like being a maverick,

00:08:38.940 and then I'm going to throw to a very important speech he gave in the House of Lords that was recently retweeted by Elon Musk that millions of people saw.

00:08:48.000 But here's when I first met Lord Pearson.

00:08:49.900 Take a look.

00:08:50.300 I am standing in the precincts of the Mother of Parliaments here in the United Kingdom, and standing with me is Lord Pearson of Rannoch.

00:08:57.100 What a pleasure to meet you in your home turf.

00:08:59.980 The honor is entirely mine.

00:09:01.620 Well, come now.

00:09:02.380 It's nice of you to say.

00:09:03.380 What was so interesting to me is that you're a peer.

00:09:06.860 You're a member of the House of Lords, and yet you are friends with someone that someone would say is on the opposite end of the spectrum from you in many walks of life.

00:09:14.920 I'm talking about Tommy Robinson.

00:09:17.000 How did that unlikely friendship come about?

00:09:20.860 Well, I can't remember.

00:09:22.040 I remember now how Tommy and I met.

00:09:23.900 I was asking one of my questions in the Lords, really trying to talk about Islam.

00:09:29.620 And I was trying to find out, ask publicly, whether to talk about Islam, to try and understand Islam, the tenets of Islam and all that, constituted hate speech.

00:09:45.280 And Tommy heard about this, and so he decided to come and listen.

00:09:50.000 And he was supposed to go into the public gallery, as I understood it.

00:09:53.480 But, of course, he met up with some of my friends.

00:09:55.760 And before we knew where we were, he was in the Distinguished Visitors Gallery in the front row in front of the Liberal Democrat Party, who all got extremely jumpy about the whole thing.

00:10:06.280 And then I had such a rough ride in that particular question, which I think has gone on YouTube and that sort of thing, that when Tommy came to him, I said, I'd like to interview him.

00:10:15.860 I said, yes, Tommy, come on, let's do an interview.

00:10:17.480 So we went and did an interview together, which isn't very good, but it's got some good parts in it.

00:10:22.540 And I met him, and I met a most remarkable man.

00:10:26.800 I met someone who's not at all what the mainstream media and the idiotic political establishment would have you believe.

00:10:36.140 Well, I really like him.

00:10:37.760 Just his personality alone makes me want to be his friend.

00:10:41.180 I am so grateful he's there in the House of Lords.

00:10:43.820 But to be serious for a moment, here is an astonishingly bold and clear and fair speech that he gave in the House of Lords that Elon Musk recently discovered this video and retweeted.

00:10:56.060 Take a look.

00:10:56.420 I would accept that if we extrapolate nationally the Jay report on Rotherham and other reports on Telford and Oxford, there appear to have been upwards of 250,000 young white girls raped in this century, very largely by Muslim men.

00:11:15.480 And given these girls are usually raped several times a day for years, so, my Lords, what is the Government's answer to the Chief Constable of Northumberland, of Northumbria, who has just said that there is every likelihood that these grooming gangs are operating in every one of our major cities?

00:11:36.140 So, my Lords, what is the Government doing to prosecute those in authority who turned a blind eye to all this because they were afraid of being Islamophobic and so on?

00:11:47.840 And what is it doing to compensate and help these victims mentally?

00:11:53.140 Mentally.

00:11:56.020 My Lords, I really refute the fact that the Government is turning a blind eye to those in authority.

00:12:03.400 Sorry that those in authority are turning a blind eye to this.

00:12:07.020 Noble Lords from across the House have outlined the various child sexual abuse perpetrations in various parts of the country.

00:12:17.940 And, my Lords, one thing we can say above all else is what these people target is vulnerability.

00:12:25.380 It's not specific to race, creed, or colour. It's vulnerability.

00:12:29.300 Now, Peter, that video of that speech was a few years ago, but something amazing has been happening in the UK over the last seven days.

00:12:36.880 I'm not sure what sparked it, but Elon Musk, the world's richest man, the owner of X, formerly Twitter, and the most followed man on Twitter with more than 200 million followers, has taken a very intense interest in the UK, especially around the issue of what is euphemistically called grooming gangs.

00:12:57.400 I don't like that because it really is a euphemism. It hides the atrocious reality.

00:13:04.260 These are serial rape gangs that rape girls night after night. 0.97

00:13:08.660 They extort and blackmail. And they're girls. They're not women. 1.00

00:13:13.040 They're as young as 9 or 10 or 11 years old.

00:13:17.340 Elon Musk has taken a passionate interest in this outrage, this scandal.

00:13:22.720 Tell us about it.

00:13:23.720 Well, I mean, you're there. I mean, I'm here and I'm watching it with amazement.

00:13:27.900 Tell us about Elon Musk in the UK over the last week.

00:13:31.580 Well, first, I remember that interview, Ezra.

00:13:34.480 I remember being there right in front of the Lords in one of your many visits.

00:13:38.560 And I know Lord Pearson has met up with you on nearly all of those visits.

00:13:42.780 And he's found a privilege to meet with you as you speak truth worldwide.

00:13:48.040 But that, Elon Musk, so I looked at my phone.

00:13:53.040 It was the 1st of January.

00:13:56.000 And what a happy new year present you could get.

00:13:59.620 Elon Musk had posted free Tommy Robinson.

00:14:03.280 So that, not only had he posted that, but he had pinned it to the top of his profile.

00:14:07.860 And he pinned it for two days.

00:14:09.240 This caused, as you can imagine, a lot of ructions in the UK political system, the UK media system, the UK establishment that were in sheer panic at Elon Musk mentioning the name of the person who cannot be named, Tommy Robinson.

00:14:27.060 So you've got that on one side.

00:14:30.140 And then it started that Elon Musk started highlighting the failure of the grooming gangs.

00:14:35.600 I think partially this came from Oldham Council, a council in the middle of England.

00:14:42.060 The council officials had called for an investigation into grooming gangs in Oldham, which is Muslim Pakistani rape gangs that have happened since 1975, was a rather madvertiser first post.

00:14:55.220 So we're looking at 50-plus years in the UK.

00:14:58.880 And Elon Musk had highlighted this failure of the government to have an independent inquiry into this area in Oldham, called by the council.

00:15:09.100 I think that was possibly the lightning rod.

00:15:11.660 Now, Tommy has done Raid for Britain series.

00:15:14.360 He's up to about number five, highlighting this injustice and making this a personal issue.

00:15:19.820 Talking to the girls who face this issue, not just the numbers, which Noor Pierce talked about, Gore Vermillion, Sarah Champion, the MP for one of those areas, has talked about up to a million girls have been affected.

00:15:33.540 This is industrial scale sexual abuse of white girls across the country by Muslim Pakistani men. 0.99

00:15:41.080 And therefore, the police, local authority, child services have all turned a blind eye to this for fear of a race riot. 0.99

00:15:50.020 That's the term that's being used by a number of officials.

00:15:53.260 Elon, of course, doesn't really give a damn about any of that.

00:15:56.240 So he just goes for it.

00:15:58.060 And he highlights this.

00:15:58.940 Listen, we have, I know that whenever we started Hearts of Oak in 2020, we wanted to highlight this in our first petition, which got 100,000 within three days.

00:16:08.880 We had a government debate on the deportation of a lot of these evil individuals.

00:16:14.620 If they had dual nationalities, they should be deported. 1.00

00:16:17.060 The government, of course, ignored that.

00:16:18.620 We also had a petition to call for the release of a government report on this.

00:16:25.260 The government had failed to release that.

00:16:27.000 We were able to force that to be put out in December 2020.

00:16:31.840 And, of course, Lord Pearson has been talking about this since 2018.

00:16:34.600 He's been highlighting the issue of Islam, the incompatibility of Islam and the freedoms we have in the West, especially look at the freedoms of women, the freedoms of those who are non-Muslim. 0.96

00:16:46.060 And he's talked about that since 2015 at least and grooming gang since 2018.

00:16:52.320 And it's that speech that he talked about quarter of a million girls have been affected by this and millions and millions of rips.

00:17:00.920 And you look at the stories, you talk to these girls.

00:17:03.300 I've talked to quite a number of them and it is harrowing.

00:17:06.920 And Lord Pearson seems to be the only one, really apart from Baroness Cox, who stood up in the House of Lords and has highlighted this.

00:17:15.060 And because he has highlighted that he has been attacked, he has been criticized in the media, in politics, they have tried to eject him from the House of Lords for linking what is happening in these rape gangs to Islam.

00:17:31.200 And he's laid it out.

00:17:32.320 And they have tried to attack him for that and change the language so you can no longer talk about Islam, you have to talk about Islamism.

00:17:38.640 It is huge.

00:17:39.840 And Elon Musk in the last six days has actually shown a bigger spotlight on this than we've been able to do since 2012 from when this was on the front page of the Times.

00:17:50.600 You know, it was on New Year's Day.

00:17:52.600 I saw that tweet by Elon Musk that said, free Tommy Robinson.

00:17:56.360 And as you know, we try and help Tommy.

00:17:58.860 We don't just journalism about it.

00:18:00.800 We're crowdfunding his lawyers.

00:18:03.120 And I try and give a little help.

00:18:04.340 I'm a former lawyer myself.

00:18:05.320 So I wrote a little letter on Twitter and I did a show about this.

00:18:10.220 I said, dear Elon Musk, here's what's going on.

00:18:14.260 To my surprise, he saw it.

00:18:16.500 I mean, I don't know how he – there's so much content on Twitter and there's so many people trying to get Elon Musk's attention.

00:18:23.380 I do not know how I managed to cut through the clutter.

00:18:26.240 I mean, I can only imagine it's just – there's a million people a day probably.

00:18:32.080 But he saw it.

00:18:33.760 He reposted it.

00:18:35.380 41 million people saw my little summary.

00:18:38.440 41 million saw my little summary of Tommy's case.

00:18:43.440 And I think Tommy – I don't know if you know where the word scapegoat comes from.

00:18:48.140 It's a biblical idea that you put the sins on the goat and drive the goat out.

00:18:54.080 And the scapegoat is where all the innocent people deposit their sins on the animal to bear the sins away.

00:19:02.180 That's the ancient biblical source of scapegoat.

00:19:08.280 And Tommy is the scapegoat.

00:19:10.960 All the sins, all the omissions, all the people turning a blind eye, let's put it on Tommy.

00:19:18.260 He's a ruffian. 1.00

00:19:19.220 He's a convicted criminal.

00:19:20.400 Did you know he served time in jail for violence?

00:19:23.820 You know, all these – or whatever it was.

00:19:25.760 I mean, he got into a fight.

00:19:27.380 And if we just hate Tommy Robinson, we can distract from our own sins.

00:19:32.340 And the establishment that covered it – I read the Commission of Inquiry into Rotherham.

00:19:38.420 It's a shocking document.

00:19:39.940 I think it was actually quite revealing.

00:19:42.420 I think you'll learn a lot from it.

00:19:44.900 It'll terrify you.

00:19:45.960 And you can search for the word racism.

00:19:47.820 You know, it's an electronic document.

00:19:50.120 You alt-F. 0.93

00:19:51.340 You type in R-A-C-I-S, racism, racist.

00:19:56.320 It pops up again and again.

00:19:58.020 When people were asked, why didn't you say anything?

00:20:00.920 They said, I was worried about being called racist.

00:20:04.080 So you – and I think that's such an important thing here.

00:20:06.960 There's a dynamic, and you alluded to it.

00:20:09.800 Eighty-plus percent of the rapists are Pakistani Muslim men.

00:20:14.480 And 90-plus percent of the rape victims are working-class white girls. 0.99

00:20:20.100 And I contend, Peter, that if it was white rapists and white girls, 0.50

00:20:25.320 or Pakistani rapists and Pakistani girls, this would be a mainstream story. 1.00

00:20:33.920 But – and certainly if it was white rapists and Pakistani girls. 1.00

00:20:37.960 But because it was foreign, visible minority, religious minority rapists, 1.00

00:20:45.980 and working-class white girls that nobody cares about, 1.00

00:20:49.700 that perfect storm of DEI rapes, of woke rapes, is why everyone was afraid.

00:20:57.980 And it's so hard to talk about.

00:21:00.660 But here's Majid Nawaz, who has an interesting and colorful history himself.

00:21:06.100 Here he is on a radio station called LBC a few years ago, saying,

00:21:11.460 everyone was afraid to talk about it.

00:21:13.640 So Tommy Robinson filled the void.

00:21:16.300 And anyone who's mad at Tommy should ask, why was that void left?

00:21:21.880 Why did all the acceptable people shut up?

00:21:25.440 Here's Majid Nawaz.

00:21:26.360 And so from fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country

00:21:33.600 as multiple cases of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country,

00:21:38.520 as evidenced now due to multiple prosecutions, successful prosecutions,

00:21:44.040 but sadly and unfortunately too late.

00:21:46.320 If we hadn't all been silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on

00:21:51.640 when it needed to be addressed, when it was time to address it,

00:21:56.200 then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap

00:22:01.960 and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue.

00:22:07.980 They ended up hijacking what should have been the concern

00:22:11.320 of every right-minded citizen in this country.

00:22:14.260 And unfortunately, it takes a bit of courage to address something

00:22:20.300 that people will hurl abuse at you for talking about.

00:22:23.940 There have been multiple cases now, and it's beyond any level of doubt

00:22:27.860 that there's a disproportionate number of British Muslims involved in grooming gangs

00:22:32.600 against underage white girls.

00:22:34.760 And to say that is to report on the facts.

00:22:38.760 It's not to be racist.

00:22:40.780 And if we're backing away from this conversation,

00:22:43.320 then all we're doing is leaving the ground far open

00:22:46.860 in what is a legitimate issue that requires addressing.

00:22:50.340 We're leaving the ground for the populist to hijack that legitimate issue 0.98

00:22:54.120 and make it their own for their own nefarious purposes.

00:22:58.540 And that's precisely what's been going on.

00:23:01.340 And it's in that regard that what I'm saying here is I just wish,

00:23:06.880 I wish that those young girls had seen justice served for them

00:23:13.360 as fast as the judge served Tommy Robinson justice in this case.

00:23:18.640 Because in this case, it's very easy for us to pick on the bogeyman.

00:23:22.480 But actually, the truth is that our silence over decades in this country

00:23:26.600 is the real bogeyman.

00:23:27.940 And that's the real thing we should despise,

00:23:29.780 our own cowardice in the face of grooming of young girls

00:23:33.000 up and down this country and our conspiracy of silence.

00:23:36.400 You know, it's so hard to talk about it.

00:23:38.200 I think that's why Nigel Farage himself,

00:23:40.280 who I regard as a hero for Brexit

00:23:42.460 and his fight against the banks for debanking conservatives,

00:23:47.120 I regard Nigel Farage as a hero.

00:23:48.980 But I think he's so afraid of being called racist,

00:23:51.860 or in the UK they use the word far right,

00:23:54.560 which would be like alt right here.

00:23:56.340 I think Nigel Farage probably agrees with Tommy on 80% of things,

00:24:01.160 but he feels a need to, in a very demonstrative way,

00:24:05.160 denounce Tommy lest he be lumped in with him.

00:24:07.840 What do you make of that?

00:24:09.180 What do you make of the absolute sheer terror?

00:24:14.160 It's the same terror that the social workers, the police,

00:24:17.040 the hospital workers in Rotherham faced.

00:24:19.580 That's what they told the Rotherham Commission.

00:24:21.300 I think Nigel Farage has the same fear in him.

00:24:25.200 I think you're right.

00:24:26.960 And Ezra, I saw that tweet you put up and he reposted it,

00:24:31.160 and it's been one of the many wow moments in the last week.

00:24:33.740 And I thought, well done for Ezra.

00:24:35.660 I saw that.

00:24:36.800 I'm meddling in your,

00:24:37.860 I'm a foreigner meddling in British affairs.

00:24:41.300 Meddle away. 0.74

00:24:42.260 Hey, you've got rid of your prime minister,

00:24:44.200 me, you can help us get rid of ours.

00:24:45.660 But that's a whole other issue.

00:24:47.220 So meddle away. 1.00

00:24:48.060 But I saw that reposting and that was great

00:24:51.360 because that gave some of the facts and information

00:24:54.340 about why Tommy is where he is.

00:24:57.620 Now, it's weird seeing this clash

00:24:59.440 because Nigel didn't have to be in this situation.

00:25:01.680 I don't know who's giving Nigel the media advice,

00:25:05.060 but whoever they are needs to be taken out and, well, sacked.

00:25:07.960 Let's say that, sacked.

00:25:09.700 Because they are basically saying that you have to attack Tommy.

00:25:15.500 No, no.

00:25:15.820 Nigel could have done what other reform MPs have done,

00:25:19.220 like Rupert Lue.

00:25:19.960 He could have given credit to Tommy

00:25:21.780 for the work he's done on grooming gangs.

00:25:24.320 And Tommy was one of the early people talk about grooming gangs

00:25:27.320 and people talk about, you know,

00:25:29.100 I was first, I was first.

00:25:30.660 Well, no, no, no, you weren't.

00:25:32.200 Julie Bindell was maybe the first person in the media in 2007.

00:25:37.860 Andrew Norfolk was the first person front page

00:25:41.000 in the Times in 2012.

00:25:42.660 And Cryer was the first MP back in 2003, a Labour MP.

00:25:47.920 They have all suffered abuse for highlighting this issue.

00:25:51.500 Tommy has also suffered abuse for highlighting this issue.

00:25:53.520 And he has highlighted this back in his EDL days.

00:25:57.100 And he's been criticised a lot for that.

00:25:59.160 But back then, he was talking about this clash in Islam in the West.

00:26:03.520 And early on, he talked about that issue in grooming gangs.

00:26:06.480 He's highlighted this, as has Nigel at times as well.

00:26:09.800 But not the focus of Tommy.

00:26:11.840 But Nigel has a lot of other issues on his plate.

00:26:14.040 But you don't need to go to war against Tommy.

00:26:15.800 You can say, well done for what you've done.

00:26:17.940 But actually, we are building a new political party, Reform UK.

00:26:22.160 And we don't want you to be part of it.

00:26:23.580 He could have done that.

00:26:24.420 But instead, he attacked Tommy and called him all these things.

00:26:28.760 Mocked him, ridiculed him, saying he was basically one of those.

00:26:34.360 He's in prison.

00:26:35.300 He's serving time.

00:26:36.240 He's got many records on his name for doing all different things.

00:26:41.540 But Nigel didn't have to do that.

00:26:44.680 And I think Nigel, maybe he's worried about Tommy getting the spotlight.

00:26:50.700 Maybe this is the class issue of Tommy being a working class lad

00:26:53.680 from Luton, a down-and-out town in the UK.

00:26:57.360 And Nigel is different.

00:26:58.640 I don't know.

00:26:59.240 But Nigel doesn't have to have this battle.

00:27:01.300 And I think he's been fairly foolish.

00:27:02.800 He's tried to roll back a little bit in terms of,

00:27:06.060 Elon, I didn't mean it.

00:27:07.640 I'm kind of sorry.

00:27:09.340 Let's be friends.

00:27:10.440 But at the same time, even this morning,

00:27:11.980 he was attacking Tommy again.

00:27:14.140 And there's no need for that.

00:27:15.960 I found in the media space that if you disagree with someone,

00:27:20.820 don't spend the time attacking them.

00:27:23.080 Focus on things actually you want to do, you want to build up.

00:27:27.080 Because the media space can be a negative space.

00:27:30.820 And you can choose whether you're partaking in that or not.

00:27:33.640 And Nigel's chosen to partake in that negative side

00:27:36.960 and attack Tommy when he didn't need to.

00:27:39.740 So it's a peculiar fight that he has picked.

00:27:43.040 And obviously, he's picked it up against Elon Musk,

00:27:45.660 which is a rather foolish fight to have.

00:27:48.560 Yeah.

00:27:48.740 I mean, Elon Musk was contemplating really supporting Reform UK.

00:27:53.540 I mean, he was a huge help to Donald Trump in America.

00:27:57.600 You mentioned Nigel poking at Tommy Robinson.

00:28:02.060 I mean, listen, if I was a party leader of a new party,

00:28:04.480 I wouldn't want to consort with a guy who had so many little asterisks

00:28:08.320 near his name.

00:28:09.220 And Tommy has served time in jail on multiple occasions.

00:28:13.340 And not all of it has been political.

00:28:15.680 I mean, he did have some other...

00:28:18.100 I mean, he is a mixed bag if you're a political leader.

00:28:23.760 But there's no need to attack Tommy so performatively

00:28:28.240 in a way that I think was calculated to impress the regime media.

00:28:32.540 I think that that shows too much deference to the peer pressure

00:28:36.440 of the cool kids in the regime media.

00:28:38.340 We see that in Canada too.

00:28:40.600 One of the things I like about Canada's Pierre Pauly,

00:28:42.780 of the new leader of the Conservative Party here,

00:28:44.660 is he hates the media.

00:28:45.680 Well, he doesn't hate the media.

00:28:46.680 He fights with the media.

00:28:47.860 He never grants them the moral high ground.

00:28:50.080 He always challenges their premises.

00:28:52.720 He doesn't allow them to have the moral authority.

00:28:56.220 That's...

00:28:56.520 In fact, I think that's his greatest strength.

00:28:58.180 And that tells me he won't be blown off course.

00:29:00.460 Nigel, I fear it's the opposite.

00:29:01.600 Here's that clip you referred to.

00:29:03.060 Here's Nigel Farage this morning on a radio station called LBC,

00:29:08.340 claiming that Tommy has a bunch of...

00:29:10.320 Claiming that Tommy is violence against women.

00:29:12.640 And I know I checked this morning.

00:29:15.320 I'm familiar with all of Tommy's grapes with the law.

00:29:17.700 And there have been too many.

00:29:18.920 But this goes too far.

00:29:20.200 Take a look.

00:29:20.780 This Tommy Robinson character, who some see as a hero.

00:29:24.900 And all right, you know, he's talked about grooming gangs and other things.

00:29:28.240 Although he'd hardly been on his own on that, has he?

00:29:30.380 I mean, I was first being condemned in 2012 for daring to talk about it.

00:29:34.460 Anne Cryer was talking about it in 2002.

00:29:36.160 Yeah, no, she was... 0.99

00:29:37.240 I mean, she is the heroine...

00:29:38.080 20-plus years.

00:29:38.640 She's the heroine of all of this.

00:29:40.560 As, indeed, to be fair, Andrew Norfolk, who was writing for the Times.

00:29:43.520 Yes, the Times journalist.

00:29:43.980 You know, and Sue Reid on the Mail.

00:29:45.540 There were some very brave figures early on.

00:29:47.900 But when figures like myself as party leaders dared pop their head over the parapet,

00:29:51.680 we were smashed back down very, very quickly.

00:29:55.220 So, you know, Robinson's talked about this,

00:29:58.120 but he has a criminal record, a list as long as your arm.

00:30:01.940 Violence, violence against women.

00:30:04.480 I mean, I could go on, Nick.

00:30:05.880 And all I'm saying is, look, Mr Robinson, do what the hell you like.

00:30:09.440 We are totally separate from that.

00:30:11.820 And I never wanted...

00:30:12.840 You know this.

00:30:13.640 You've known me long enough to know.

00:30:14.760 I've never wanted my parties to have anything to do with the BMP or extremism.

00:30:19.740 And I never will.

00:30:20.160 Why have they attracted people then, Mr Farage?

00:30:22.120 Because in the past they have attracted that light.

00:30:24.040 Well, not when I've led parties, no.

00:30:26.280 So, you know, what I inherited...

00:30:28.020 I take you back to the last general election.

00:30:29.600 Well, well...

00:30:30.100 Possibly you didn't have enough time.

00:30:31.500 No, no, no.

00:30:32.060 I had no say over that whatsoever.

00:30:33.700 I came in right at the last minute.

00:30:35.380 There were people there that shouldn't have been there.

00:30:36.920 That will never happen again.

00:30:38.420 And the thing about that, Peter,

00:30:40.580 is that a lot of Tommy supporters will know that's untrue

00:30:43.860 and will feel that's deeply unfair.

00:30:45.460 And they will feel that sort of like a deplorables moment

00:30:48.740 when Hillary Clinton said,

00:30:49.980 oh, this basket of deplorable people.

00:30:52.660 And you don't talk that way about people.

00:30:54.560 I was in Clacton.

00:30:56.000 That's Nigel Farage's district on election night.

00:30:58.760 I went there.

00:30:59.900 I wanted to see what was going on.

00:31:01.580 And there's this UK tradition of the votes being brought to one central building.

00:31:06.680 All the candidates coming to the central building,

00:31:09.420 like they may have their parties elsewhere,

00:31:11.280 but they all come together.

00:31:12.920 It's a really lovely tradition.

00:31:16.680 The votes are counted so meticulously.

00:31:19.100 I don't think we had the result till 4 a.m.

00:31:21.660 I'd never seen anything like it.

00:31:23.500 I really enjoyed it.

00:31:24.320 I was so tired.

00:31:26.080 And so what do you do when you're waiting for eight hours

00:31:28.680 for the votes to be counted?

00:31:30.500 Well, you chat.

00:31:31.840 And here's the funny thing, Peter.

00:31:34.360 I'm an anonymous foreigner in Clacton.

00:31:36.880 Like who would possibly know me?

00:31:38.840 A ton of people did

00:31:39.940 because Tommy Robinson had just visited Canada

00:31:42.200 and he was arrested in Canada.

00:31:44.240 We got him out without any charges or any conditions.

00:31:47.200 So all these people in Clacton recognize me,

00:31:52.000 which tells me,

00:31:53.080 and they asked me about Tommy Robinson,

00:31:55.120 which tells me they follow him pretty closely.

00:31:57.360 Like if you are in Clacton-on-the-Sea,

00:31:59.860 which is this little town in the UK,

00:32:02.960 it's not a big place,

00:32:03.980 and you know who Ezra Levant is,

00:32:05.780 it's not because I have a connection to Clacton.

00:32:07.940 And it's because you're watching Tommy Robinson.

00:32:10.160 The overlap between Tommy supporters

00:32:13.080 and Nigel supporters is so much.

00:32:16.200 And Nigel Farage doesn't have to emphasize that

00:32:19.260 or revel in it,

00:32:20.540 but by gosh,

00:32:21.440 it's stupid for him to be poking and insulting Tommy.

00:32:26.540 Here's another MP for Reform UK,

00:32:30.340 Richard Tice,

00:32:31.240 using that phrase,

00:32:32.240 that lot.

00:32:32.980 Here's a quick look at it.

00:32:34.340 There's no need to do that.

00:32:36.620 If you're the party of the working man, 0.90

00:32:38.600 don't get a sneering condescension.

00:32:40.980 Here, take a look at this.

00:32:42.060 Tommy Robinson,

00:32:43.100 people have been protesting in his name.

00:32:44.860 What do you make of Tommy Robinson?

00:32:46.080 Is he a good guy in your eyes?

00:32:47.620 No.

00:32:48.340 All of that lot,

00:32:49.420 we have nothing to do with them.

00:32:50.380 Even the protesters who have got banners up

00:32:52.640 saying two-tier care,

00:32:54.220 you agree with them on the policing and justice thing?

00:32:56.000 We agree with ourselves.

00:32:57.760 I'm not aligning ourselves

00:32:58.960 with Tommy Robinson's lot

00:33:01.420 in any shape or form.

00:33:02.920 Anyhow,

00:33:03.260 I hate the fact

00:33:04.200 that in order to suck up 0.99

00:33:07.080 to the powerful people,

00:33:11.080 they're punching down.

00:33:12.760 I just hate that,

00:33:14.060 Peter.

00:33:15.380 I agree.

00:33:16.660 And look,

00:33:17.760 I think from Canadian politics,

00:33:19.340 every politician should do an interview

00:33:21.000 eating an apple.

00:33:21.840 To me,

00:33:22.200 that's Pierre's advice to everyone.

00:33:24.680 But it's true 0.90

00:33:26.720 that Nigel has kind of said

00:33:28.380 it's him or me.

00:33:30.460 And it doesn't need to be.

00:33:31.760 There are two very different individuals

00:33:33.880 in very different fights.

00:33:35.440 Tommy does not lead a political party.

00:33:38.300 He's never asked to join reform.

00:33:40.400 He asked to join UKIP

00:33:41.440 and I was very much part of those conversations

00:33:43.480 back in 2019

00:33:44.520 when he was campaign manager

00:33:45.960 of Tommy joining UKIP

00:33:47.680 to run in the European elections.

00:33:49.520 But it's a different situation at the moment.

00:33:52.020 Tommy has never requested to join reform.

00:33:54.420 He has called on his supporters

00:33:56.360 to back reform

00:33:57.360 many, many times.

00:34:00.040 And if you're the leader of reform,

00:34:01.680 you shouldn't really attack

00:34:02.880 probably one of the most...

00:34:04.760 Nigel and Tommy,

00:34:06.020 there aren't really any other individuals

00:34:08.380 of a higher profile

00:34:10.060 politically campaign-wise

00:34:11.660 than those two individuals.

00:34:13.860 And I've kind of been with them both

00:34:15.740 at different times

00:34:16.640 and you get them mobbed

00:34:18.280 for people wanting selfies

00:34:19.700 because they're regarded as heroes.

00:34:21.920 It doesn't have to be

00:34:23.480 you either choose him or me.

00:34:25.740 It can be we're very different people.

00:34:28.020 Tommy is doing something.

00:34:29.420 I'm doing something

00:34:30.300 as Nigel's a political figure.

00:34:32.260 And we are quite different.

00:34:34.600 But I certainly see Tommy

00:34:36.220 as an absolute hero.

00:34:38.100 I'm visiting him in prison next week.

00:34:39.980 And I've known him for 15 years.

00:34:43.740 I've known Nigel much less.

00:34:45.540 I watch him from afar.

00:34:46.860 I don't know him personally.

00:34:48.760 But there is no need

00:34:51.000 to have this fight.

00:34:52.920 And that's why I'm confused

00:34:54.540 at why Nigel

00:34:55.320 has gone down this route.

00:34:58.560 And when you compare

00:34:59.640 Nigel or political figures

00:35:01.280 to someone like

00:35:02.100 President Trump,

00:35:03.400 and Trump speaks his mind,

00:35:04.600 he does what he thinks,

00:35:05.380 he doesn't need an opinion poll.

00:35:06.580 I think reformer

00:35:07.740 may be a little bit different.

00:35:09.420 They're maybe more concerned

00:35:11.180 of what the media may say

00:35:12.920 and therefore check

00:35:14.500 what they may say

00:35:15.500 with a focus group

00:35:16.460 to see if it will fit or not.

00:35:18.560 I want a President Trump style leader

00:35:20.660 who just says what he thinks

00:35:22.700 and let's see what happens.

00:35:25.240 Or what Elon Musk has been doing.

00:35:27.540 Actually, he says what he thinks

00:35:29.320 and then you get a response.

00:35:30.960 That to me is a better,

00:35:32.060 a leader who leads by conviction

00:35:34.300 and not by consensus.

00:35:36.260 And I'm tired of that

00:35:37.060 consensus politics

00:35:38.060 that we have had in the UK.

00:35:39.820 And reformer doing

00:35:40.820 very well politically.

00:35:42.860 The so-called Conservative Party

00:35:44.740 led by Kimmy Bednock,

00:35:46.220 we'll see how that performs.

00:35:47.880 They are not doing well

00:35:48.940 at all in the polls.

00:35:49.920 Reform under Nigel Fraser

00:35:51.180 doing exceptionally well.

00:35:52.300 But I think they could do

00:35:53.120 so much better

00:35:54.860 if they understood

00:35:56.000 the threat of Islam 1.00

00:35:57.600 and they understood

00:35:58.960 that people like Tommy

00:35:59.840 are not actually a threat

00:36:01.060 and they can embrace them

00:36:02.380 without making them part

00:36:03.860 of the party.

00:36:04.980 That's what I would say

00:36:05.980 to his PR team

00:36:06.980 and I don't know why

00:36:08.040 they haven't embraced that

00:36:09.000 or understood that yet.

00:36:11.000 Winston Marshall

00:36:11.940 is a former musician

00:36:13.760 who was cancelled

00:36:14.820 for having politically

00:36:16.440 incorrect views

00:36:17.140 and he's become a bit

00:36:17.880 of a political pundit

00:36:19.180 and organiser.

00:36:19.940 Seems like a bright young man.

00:36:21.380 He recently had a sit-down

00:36:23.020 with Nigel Farage

00:36:23.800 and they talked about Islam.

00:36:26.320 And people say

00:36:28.420 it's been taken out of context.

00:36:29.620 I don't know if it has.

00:36:30.400 Here's a clip of Nigel Farage

00:36:32.920 saying that Islam is growing

00:36:36.180 75% every 10 years

00:36:39.800 I think was his stat.

00:36:41.280 And so UKIP must accommodate it.

00:36:44.700 Here, tell me what you think

00:36:45.720 of this clip.

00:36:48.940 Is this the right view?

00:36:50.720 This feels a little fatalistic

00:36:52.240 and it feels like it's...

00:36:54.920 And Farage has said

00:36:56.100 he's against mass deportations

00:36:58.440 which I think is essential

00:37:00.560 to fixing some of the problems

00:37:03.100 with illegal immigration

00:37:04.180 and criminal immigration.

00:37:05.900 Here, let's play a clip

00:37:07.140 of Nigel Farage

00:37:08.700 being interviewed

00:37:09.440 by Winston Marshall.

00:37:10.840 But the nub of it is

00:37:11.880 we have a Muslim population

00:37:14.480 in Britain growing

00:37:15.480 by about 75%

00:37:18.360 every 10 years.

00:37:20.020 Right?

00:37:20.320 That's just where we are.

00:37:21.220 If we politically

00:37:24.920 alienate

00:37:26.780 the whole of Islam

00:37:28.560 we will lose.

00:37:30.620 We'll lose.

00:37:31.520 So how does one include them?

00:37:32.700 We will lose.

00:37:33.640 By 2050

00:37:34.480 goodness knows what

00:37:37.020 kind of a terrible state

00:37:38.300 we're going to be in.

00:37:38.960 Well, what does that mean?

00:37:40.140 And by the way

00:37:41.020 I don't want to be racist

00:37:42.540 and I don't want to be

00:37:43.580 I don't want to prejudge people

00:37:45.280 but I want to stop

00:37:46.500 mass immigration in Canada.

00:37:47.900 I want to deport people 0.96

00:37:49.580 who bring violence

00:37:51.260 or criminality with them

00:37:52.400 deport people

00:37:53.100 who are here illegally 0.88

00:37:54.100 and frankly

00:37:55.100 if someone

00:37:55.660 supports terrorism

00:37:58.940 I think they should be

00:37:59.920 stripped of their

00:38:00.960 citizenship

00:38:02.800 and deported

00:38:03.460 if they're dual citizen.

00:38:04.360 I don't think

00:38:04.680 these are radical thoughts.

00:38:07.100 Mass deportations

00:38:08.100 I think are about to start

00:38:09.160 on January 20th

00:38:10.420 if you believe

00:38:11.020 Trump's new

00:38:12.980 borders are.

00:38:14.980 I believe them.

00:38:15.800 Why is

00:38:17.720 is this another case

00:38:18.800 of Nigel

00:38:19.340 just not wanting

00:38:20.240 to rock the boat

00:38:20.960 and worried about

00:38:22.400 what the cool kids

00:38:23.160 have to say?

00:38:24.720 I watch an interview

00:38:26.400 and I was so confused.

00:38:27.880 One that he doesn't see

00:38:29.120 necessarily

00:38:30.640 that Islam 0.98

00:38:31.200 as a clash

00:38:31.840 with the West.

00:38:33.320 Two that

00:38:33.820 he doesn't necessarily

00:38:35.620 say that we need

00:38:36.540 to embrace Islam

00:38:38.800 but he seems to say

00:38:40.240 you know

00:38:40.640 well they're going faster.

00:38:41.900 I think it was

00:38:42.100 Lord Pearson

00:38:42.700 had asked the government

00:38:43.360 a question

00:38:43.860 on demographics

00:38:44.680 and the Islamic

00:38:45.960 population

00:38:46.520 over 15 years

00:38:47.480 grew at 110%

00:38:48.920 compared to the UK

00:38:50.320 at 10.7

00:38:51.680 so 10 times.

00:38:53.840 You don't

00:38:54.420 accommodate

00:38:55.000 a grouping

00:38:56.100 that fails to integrate

00:38:57.440 and has a completely

00:38:58.300 separate idea

00:38:59.400 of how

00:39:00.620 women are treated 1.00

00:39:01.700 children are treated

00:39:02.520 and those

00:39:02.960 outside their grouping

00:39:04.100 and demand

00:39:04.780 their own legal system

00:39:05.840 and food system

00:39:06.680 and their own way of life.

00:39:08.640 That's not

00:39:09.560 how you integrate.

00:39:10.960 In the UK 0.52

00:39:11.320 we've always integrated

00:39:12.760 where waves of immigrants 0.93

00:39:14.060 have come over

00:39:14.680 that we've always

00:39:16.100 had integration

00:39:17.200 and yet

00:39:18.300 now with Islam 1.00

00:39:19.540 we seem to fail

00:39:20.260 to have it

00:39:20.720 and that's been

00:39:21.180 mentioned by many

00:39:22.060 commentators.

00:39:23.460 Nigel doesn't seem

00:39:24.160 to see that

00:39:24.700 and he seems

00:39:25.160 to be concerned

00:39:25.920 and in one way

00:39:27.020 understand

00:39:27.460 if you do not

00:39:28.580 have a strong

00:39:29.940 understanding

00:39:30.480 of what it means

00:39:31.020 to be British

00:39:31.760 and maybe

00:39:32.680 because Nigel

00:39:33.600 doesn't come

00:39:34.160 from a Christian

00:39:35.080 perspective

00:39:35.600 maybe that's

00:39:37.020 what is missing

00:39:37.700 there

00:39:37.960 that kind of

00:39:38.600 anchor

00:39:39.000 to your

00:39:40.000 society

00:39:40.820 to your culture

00:39:42.300 to what makes

00:39:43.200 you a nation

00:39:43.800 then of course

00:39:45.060 you will think

00:39:45.840 we need to be nice

00:39:46.720 to these people

00:39:47.220 coming over.

00:39:48.300 You can be nice

00:39:49.000 to them

00:39:49.320 but you don't have

00:39:50.200 to acquiesce

00:39:51.020 to them

00:39:51.360 and I don't know

00:39:52.160 why reform

00:39:52.840 want to acquiesce

00:39:54.720 and mass deportation

00:39:56.080 I'm looking forward

00:39:56.880 to the mass deportations

00:39:58.160 in the US

00:39:58.800 with the new borders

00:40:00.740 bring it on

00:40:01.880 AFD

00:40:03.020 in Germany

00:40:03.800 Alternative

00:40:04.260 for Deutschland

00:40:04.580 the German government

00:40:05.420 have collapsed

00:40:05.920 they're having

00:40:06.340 elections in a month

00:40:07.420 they talk about

00:40:08.640 mass deportations

00:40:09.760 a number of parties

00:40:11.160 across here

00:40:11.620 the Swedish Democrats

00:40:12.380 have talked about

00:40:13.060 mass deportations

00:40:14.140 let's see about

00:40:15.180 the Freedom Party

00:40:15.900 in Austria

00:40:16.400 and they've been

00:40:16.880 invited to form

00:40:17.600 a government

00:40:18.100 this is what

00:40:19.260 you need to do

00:40:19.720 a few people

00:40:20.340 in your country

00:40:21.000 if you've got

00:40:22.260 and our prisons

00:40:22.960 in the UK

00:40:23.380 are full of

00:40:23.980 non-Brit 0.93

00:40:24.560 maybe 30%

00:40:25.680 non-Brit 0.93

00:40:26.240 well if you can

00:40:27.520 send them back

00:40:28.080 to their country

00:40:28.620 that makes sense

00:40:29.340 because you don't

00:40:29.640 have to pay for them

00:40:30.640 to stay in a prison

00:40:31.580 for years

00:40:32.140 all the grooming gang

00:40:33.780 the mass rapists

00:40:34.740 we should deport them

00:40:36.080 but today

00:40:36.980 in the Daily Mail

00:40:37.940 it came over

00:40:38.560 that one of the

00:40:39.000 huge ringleaders

00:40:39.780 despite the government

00:40:40.660 promising to deport him

00:40:41.960 has not been deported

00:40:43.200 years later

00:40:43.980 why shouldn't we

00:40:45.260 send people back

00:40:46.200 who break the laws

00:40:47.220 in this country

00:40:47.820 why should taxpayers

00:40:49.300 have to pay

00:40:50.100 years worth

00:40:50.980 of jail time

00:40:52.360 for these individuals

00:40:53.480 at tens of thousands

00:40:54.540 of pounds a year

00:40:55.380 whenever you can

00:40:56.300 stick them on

00:40:56.960 an easy jet flight

00:40:58.220 for 100 quid

00:40:59.100 send them back home

00:41:00.300 they can serve

00:41:01.180 their time

00:41:01.640 in that country

00:41:02.280 that has to be

00:41:03.540 the agreement

00:41:04.220 within Europe

00:41:05.040 surely

00:41:05.640 that has to be

00:41:06.280 the agreement

00:41:06.640 between nation states

00:41:07.660 and for Nigel

00:41:08.800 not to say

00:41:09.400 we need to deport 0.99

00:41:10.180 these people

00:41:10.860 what he wants us

00:41:12.340 to actually then

00:41:13.180 pay for them

00:41:14.020 is he going to raise

00:41:14.740 taxes to pay

00:41:15.540 for these people

00:41:16.200 it does not make sense

00:41:18.440 and I don't know

00:41:18.940 whether he is afraid

00:41:19.880 of a backlash

00:41:20.780 from the mainstream media

00:41:22.040 but again

00:41:22.940 I want a leader

00:41:23.720 who does

00:41:24.960 what they believe

00:41:26.220 is right

00:41:26.920 and lead

00:41:27.660 and on this case

00:41:29.120 on immigration

00:41:30.280 many other cases

00:41:31.420 Nigel has led well

00:41:32.620 but on this case

00:41:33.700 of deportation

00:41:34.880 he is not leading

00:41:36.060 yeah

00:41:37.040 he was so sure

00:41:38.140 of himself

00:41:38.480 with Brexit

00:41:39.020 and on the debanking

00:41:40.320 and I want that

00:41:41.680 Nigel Farage back

00:41:42.620 hey we've been talking

00:41:43.640 about Nigel Farage

00:41:44.560 and with good reason

00:41:46.060 I think he

00:41:46.680 I think he's a hero

00:41:47.820 I think he's done more

00:41:49.360 for the UK

00:41:49.920 in the last generation

00:41:51.780 than anyone else

00:41:53.300 I can think of

00:41:54.100 I think Tommy Robinson

00:41:57.160 is also a hero as well

00:41:58.500 a flawed hero

00:41:59.920 an anti-hero

00:42:01.120 perhaps as they say

00:42:02.340 but I believe

00:42:04.420 that he has

00:42:05.220 you know

00:42:06.140 I think it was

00:42:06.840 George Bernard Shaw

00:42:07.560 who said

00:42:08.200 reasonable people

00:42:09.940 conform to the world

00:42:10.880 unreasonable people

00:42:11.980 make the world

00:42:12.480 conform to them

00:42:13.220 therefore all progress

00:42:14.720 defends on unreasonable people

00:42:16.240 Tommy Robinson

00:42:16.980 is unreasonable

00:42:18.500 I was there in court

00:42:20.060 when he was sentenced

00:42:20.880 the judge said

00:42:22.380 will you take this video

00:42:23.700 down off Twitter

00:42:24.580 if you do

00:42:25.500 I'll knock several months

00:42:26.760 off your prison sentence

00:42:28.380 and he said

00:42:29.980 no

00:42:30.260 he didn't say it

00:42:30.960 he just declined

00:42:32.100 to do so

00:42:32.680 I mean Peter

00:42:33.620 if someone said to you

00:42:35.980 you have a tweet

00:42:36.900 up

00:42:37.380 that's been seen

00:42:38.960 50 or 60 million times

00:42:40.720 take it down now

00:42:42.180 and you'll

00:42:42.800 be spared

00:42:43.840 months of prison time

00:42:45.440 I

00:42:46.740 I gotta

00:42:47.220 think

00:42:47.760 99.9%

00:42:49.680 of people

00:42:50.180 would say

00:42:50.600 55 million people

00:42:52.100 have seen this tweet

00:42:52.820 I can declare victory

00:42:53.860 I'm gonna go home

00:42:54.740 he did not

00:42:56.060 and

00:42:57.180 you know

00:42:57.800 he would say

00:42:58.260 he's been vindicated

00:42:59.140 that tweet

00:42:59.660 that video

00:43:00.340 has now been seen

00:43:01.060 about 150 million times

00:43:03.200 and it's gotten

00:43:04.200 a lot of news

00:43:04.840 but

00:43:05.080 that is not

00:43:06.380 someone who's acting

00:43:07.700 in their rational

00:43:08.440 self-interest

00:43:09.200 to make the pain

00:43:10.580 go away

00:43:10.940 that's why the British 0.77

00:43:11.620 government is having

00:43:12.160 so much trouble

00:43:12.700 dealing with them

00:43:13.320 because they don't

00:43:14.180 have tools

00:43:14.800 to deal with someone

00:43:15.780 who is in a way

00:43:17.100 a conscientious objector

00:43:18.300 and doesn't care

00:43:18.700 what they do to him

00:43:19.360 that's what's so

00:43:20.260 astonishing

00:43:20.800 about Tommy Robinson

00:43:21.740 despite all the

00:43:23.600 accusations against him

00:43:24.820 there's an innate

00:43:26.340 selflessness there

00:43:27.640 who amongst us

00:43:28.740 would agree to

00:43:29.560 spend that much time

00:43:31.380 in solitary confinement

00:43:32.500 on a point of principle

00:43:33.800 I don't think

00:43:36.000 one in a million would

00:43:37.420 hey

00:43:37.800 let me show you

00:43:38.720 one last video

00:43:39.680 because we've been

00:43:41.240 talking about how

00:43:42.340 Nigel Farage

00:43:43.640 and Kemi Badenoch

00:43:44.600 the conservative leader

00:43:45.500 she's just as

00:43:46.320 scared of Tommy Robinson

00:43:47.720 he probably even more so

00:43:49.060 which is odd

00:43:51.080 because she

00:43:51.660 she doesn't have to be

00:43:52.880 because no one's

00:43:53.300 going to accuse her

00:43:54.060 of racism

00:43:54.520 she's a black woman 0.99

00:43:55.380 but the language

00:43:59.000 that Nigel Farage

00:44:00.120 is using

00:44:00.720 that lot

00:44:01.920 here's Keir Starmer

00:44:04.800 the labor prime minister

00:44:06.340 just yesterday

00:44:07.620 or the day before

00:44:08.440 denouncing

00:44:11.040 Elon Musk

00:44:12.160 Tommy Robinson

00:44:13.300 and anyone who's

00:44:14.760 worried about

00:44:15.380 these rape gangs 0.99

00:44:16.300 denouncing them

00:44:17.700 as far right

00:44:19.300 including

00:44:20.000 completely

00:44:21.160 apolitical

00:44:22.400 victims

00:44:23.560 and families

00:44:24.460 of victims

00:44:25.000 take a look

00:44:25.700 take a look at

00:44:25.840 Keir Starmer

00:44:26.500 basically doing

00:44:29.020 what those victims

00:44:30.820 in the

00:44:31.680 commission of inquiry

00:44:33.500 said

00:44:34.000 I'm worried about

00:44:35.420 being denounced

00:44:36.180 as racist

00:44:37.300 so I won't speak up

00:44:38.620 so what does

00:44:39.220 Keir Starmer do?

00:44:40.780 denounce them

00:44:41.420 as racist

00:44:41.960 when

00:44:42.380 politicians

00:44:44.080 and I mean

00:44:45.120 politicians

00:44:45.700 who sat in government

00:44:47.760 for many years

00:44:48.580 are casual

00:44:49.720 about honesty

00:44:51.920 decency

00:44:52.660 truth

00:44:53.320 and the rule

00:44:53.880 of law

00:44:54.360 calling for inquiries

00:44:57.080 because they want

00:44:57.700 to jump on a bandwagon

00:44:59.260 of the far right

00:45:00.680 then that affects

00:45:02.760 politics

00:45:03.420 because

00:45:04.540 a robust debate

00:45:06.260 can only be based

00:45:07.180 on the true facts

00:45:08.500 I think that's

00:45:09.320 outrageous

00:45:09.840 to say that

00:45:11.000 anyone

00:45:11.460 who's concerned

00:45:13.080 about rape gangs

00:45:13.840 is racist

00:45:14.740 that's essentially

00:45:15.360 what far right

00:45:16.160 means in the UK

00:45:16.880 but really

00:45:18.380 that's not

00:45:18.960 that different

00:45:19.880 in language

00:45:20.420 from what

00:45:21.080 Nigel Farage

00:45:21.740 was saying

00:45:22.120 what do you think?

00:45:23.860 I agree

00:45:24.820 if the term

00:45:26.680 far right

00:45:27.380 is defined

00:45:28.100 by whether

00:45:28.760 or not

00:45:29.260 you say

00:45:29.760 children should 0.99

00:45:30.320 be protected

00:45:31.220 from being

00:45:32.540 sexually abused

00:45:33.400 then I guess

00:45:34.480 we're all far right

00:45:35.480 if that's the definition

00:45:36.500 and this is

00:45:37.800 just like the term

00:45:38.580 racism

00:45:39.160 is a term

00:45:40.160 that is branded

00:45:41.020 whenever you're

00:45:42.160 losing the argument

00:45:43.320 whenever you want

00:45:44.180 to shut down

00:45:45.040 debate

00:45:45.460 and that's been

00:45:46.220 used by the media

00:45:47.120 it's been used

00:45:47.600 by politicians

00:45:48.420 and this is used

00:45:50.640 by Keir Stormer

00:45:51.660 today

00:45:52.420 to shut down

00:45:53.360 the conversation

00:45:54.400 to call those

00:45:55.400 who are

00:45:56.320 calling

00:45:57.060 for a full-on

00:45:58.720 inquiry

00:45:59.360 far right

00:46:00.400 now

00:46:00.760 the issue

00:46:01.960 is we've never

00:46:02.600 had a national

00:46:03.740 inquiry

00:46:04.280 on grooming gangs

00:46:05.540 so we have had

00:46:07.100 an independent

00:46:07.920 inquiry

00:46:09.100 into

00:46:10.020 child sexual

00:46:11.160 abuse

00:46:11.780 that was a

00:46:12.600 seven-year inquiry

00:46:13.480 costing close

00:46:14.300 to 200 million

00:46:15.220 200 million

00:46:16.440 the only people

00:46:17.760 that benefited

00:46:18.300 were the lawyers

00:46:19.080 who pocketed

00:46:19.820 all the money

00:46:20.500 so these

00:46:21.900 inquiries

00:46:23.100 only benefit

00:46:24.180 the legal profession

00:46:25.080 they don't get

00:46:25.620 justice

00:46:26.100 that was done

00:46:27.240 for seven years

00:46:29.780 originally put in

00:46:30.820 by Theresa May

00:46:31.740 I think in

00:46:32.160 2015

00:46:33.460 but that was

00:46:34.380 only done

00:46:35.040 because of

00:46:35.480 Jimmy Savile

00:46:36.120 that was not done

00:46:37.200 because of

00:46:37.740 grooming gangs

00:46:38.360 and there's only

00:46:38.840 a subsection

00:46:39.740 in that

00:46:40.860 200 million

00:46:42.120 pound inquiry

00:46:43.380 into grooming

00:46:44.420 gangs

00:46:44.900 so

00:46:45.860 people are

00:46:47.260 right to call

00:46:48.320 for an inquiry

00:46:49.420 into this

00:46:50.140 specific area

00:46:51.200 and why this

00:46:52.320 specific area

00:46:53.100 well this area

00:46:53.900 is not being

00:46:54.340 talked about

00:46:54.860 this area

00:46:55.280 is being

00:46:55.540 ignored

00:46:55.880 this area

00:46:56.520 are media

00:46:57.580 and politicians

00:46:58.360 and local

00:46:58.940 authority

00:46:59.240 run away from

00:47:00.060 because they're

00:47:00.640 afraid

00:47:00.940 so you have

00:47:02.260 to focus

00:47:02.720 on what

00:47:03.420 others are

00:47:03.880 not talking

00:47:04.420 about

00:47:04.780 if there are

00:47:05.660 other areas

00:47:07.240 of abuse

00:47:07.980 then if they're

00:47:09.280 being addressed

00:47:09.820 and focused on

00:47:10.580 then that is

00:47:11.080 good

00:47:11.440 and therefore

00:47:11.980 you'll get

00:47:12.380 justice

00:47:12.720 in those

00:47:13.080 areas

00:47:13.400 but in this

00:47:13.940 area

00:47:14.260 the focus

00:47:15.120 is not

00:47:15.560 on this

00:47:16.020 and justice

00:47:16.780 has not

00:47:17.160 been done

00:47:17.640 and not

00:47:18.460 one single

00:47:19.180 girl 0.91

00:47:19.460 we're involved

00:47:20.200 in a legal

00:47:22.280 battle

00:47:22.700 we're four

00:47:23.420 years in the

00:47:23.900 legal battle

00:47:24.500 of getting

00:47:25.460 one of the

00:47:26.120 survivors

00:47:26.680 legal recompense

00:47:28.840 she is suing

00:47:29.880 her perpetrator

00:47:30.780 and getting

00:47:31.460 money

00:47:31.820 never done

00:47:32.660 before

00:47:33.060 no British 1.00

00:47:34.200 government

00:47:34.600 conservatives

00:47:35.180 or labour

00:47:35.660 have never

00:47:36.240 said

00:47:36.600 you know

00:47:36.980 if an

00:47:37.960 individual

00:47:38.380 is sent

00:47:38.880 away

00:47:39.300 for

00:47:40.140 abusing

00:47:40.960 these

00:47:41.240 girls 0.98

00:47:41.600 for

00:47:42.240 child

00:47:43.400 rape 0.93

00:47:43.700 then

00:47:43.980 actually

00:47:44.460 they

00:47:45.140 must

00:47:45.580 pay

00:47:45.960 recompense

00:47:46.680 to the

00:47:47.020 girls 0.98

00:47:47.320 that would

00:47:47.980 make sense

00:47:48.460 but these

00:47:48.820 girls are 0.93

00:47:49.260 dragged through

00:47:49.820 the courts

00:47:50.260 again

00:47:50.900 have to

00:47:51.740 pay

00:47:52.060 tens of

00:47:53.700 thousands

00:47:54.100 tens of

00:47:54.660 thousands

00:47:55.000 30,000

00:47:56.220 plus

00:47:56.660 if they

00:47:57.360 want to

00:47:57.840 fight

00:47:58.140 against

00:47:58.600 their

00:47:58.960 perpetrator

00:48:00.160 for money

00:48:00.980 back

00:48:01.300 that should

00:48:01.960 not be

00:48:02.240 the case

00:48:02.540 there's so

00:48:03.080 many things

00:48:03.720 that could 0.68

00:48:04.060 be done

00:48:04.540 to make

00:48:05.000 this

00:48:05.320 a fair

00:48:06.080 system

00:48:06.960 for the

00:48:07.320 girls 0.98

00:48:07.620 you cannot

00:48:08.880 reclaim

00:48:09.480 their

00:48:09.720 childhood

00:48:10.100 no

00:48:10.600 but you

00:48:11.320 can say

00:48:12.020 actually

00:48:12.400 we will

00:48:12.780 give you

00:48:13.140 financial

00:48:13.660 justice

00:48:14.540 and that's

00:48:15.360 what should

00:48:15.580 happen

00:48:15.960 these

00:48:16.440 individuals

00:48:16.920 should stay

00:48:17.580 in jail

00:48:17.900 for life

00:48:18.580 they should

00:48:19.140 never be

00:48:19.620 released

00:48:20.080 they should

00:48:20.820 have all

00:48:21.400 their assets

00:48:21.860 taken off

00:48:22.500 them

00:48:22.680 and those

00:48:23.340 assets

00:48:23.660 should be

00:48:24.000 given

00:48:24.260 to these

00:48:24.840 girls 0.98

00:48:25.220 that's

00:48:25.900 what should

00:48:26.160 happen

00:48:26.520 but hey

00:48:27.240 if you

00:48:27.760 say that

00:48:28.320 you're

00:48:28.740 far right

00:48:29.320 if you're

00:48:29.640 on the

00:48:30.080 side

00:48:30.700 of those

00:48:31.560 who are

00:48:31.780 abused

00:48:32.220 those who

00:48:32.600 are disadvantaged

00:48:33.240 those who

00:48:33.740 are

00:48:33.880 downtrodden

00:48:34.520 in society

00:48:35.300 surely

00:48:36.180 that's

00:48:36.600 what we

00:48:36.800 should

00:48:36.940 be doing

00:48:37.340 and that's

00:48:37.780 what you

00:48:38.280 have highlighted

00:48:39.060 Ezra

00:48:39.400 that's

00:48:39.700 what we've

00:48:39.960 tried to

00:48:40.260 highlight

00:48:40.540 in Hearts

00:48:40.940 of Oak

00:48:41.160 that's

00:48:41.380 what Lord

00:48:41.700 Pearson

00:48:42.080 that's

00:48:42.780 what Tommy

00:48:43.180 has highlighted

00:48:43.800 and there

00:48:45.060 are a few

00:48:45.380 loud voices

00:48:46.060 that have

00:48:46.560 championed

00:48:47.600 these girls 0.99

00:48:48.480 and have

00:48:49.100 highlighted

00:48:49.460 the injustice

00:48:50.120 and I think

00:48:51.200 with Elon Musk

00:48:51.860 shining light

00:48:52.380 on this

00:48:52.720 we will

00:48:53.200 get justice

00:48:53.960 yeah

00:48:54.400 well that's

00:48:55.140 the point

00:48:55.300 about Elon

00:48:55.740 Musk 0.77

00:48:56.080 I mean

00:48:56.360 obviously

00:48:56.660 he's the

00:48:56.960 world's

00:48:57.320 richest man

00:48:57.880 I think

00:48:58.160 he's the

00:48:58.420 world's

00:48:58.660 most

00:48:58.900 interesting

00:48:59.360 man

00:48:59.680 he's the

00:49:00.500 world's

00:49:00.820 most followed

00:49:04.520 and as far

00:49:05.460 as I know

00:49:05.860 he has

00:49:06.200 only used

00:49:06.860 in this

00:49:07.240 UK case

00:49:08.000 the power

00:49:08.700 of his

00:49:08.940 voice

00:49:09.200 in America

00:49:09.880 he spent

00:49:10.920 a lot

00:49:11.200 of money

00:49:11.600 also

00:49:12.280 and he

00:49:13.600 campaigned

00:49:14.480 personally

00:49:15.660 with Donald

00:49:16.320 Trump

00:49:16.520 actually

00:49:16.800 every day

00:49:17.340 he campaigned

00:49:17.920 in Pennsylvania

00:49:18.320 but so far

00:49:20.540 in the UK

00:49:21.040 he's really

00:49:21.600 just used

00:49:22.200 the power

00:49:22.720 of his

00:49:23.080 voice

00:49:23.560 which is

00:49:24.420 fascinating

00:49:24.860 I mean

00:49:25.140 technically

00:49:25.520 anyone

00:49:25.880 could do

00:49:26.340 it

00:49:26.580 Kim Kardashian

00:49:27.840 has a lot

00:49:28.420 of followers

00:49:28.820 on Twitter

00:49:29.240 too

00:49:29.540 if she chose

00:49:30.580 to weigh in

00:49:31.060 I'm sure

00:49:31.340 that would

00:49:31.620 make news

00:49:32.080 but I think

00:49:32.760 one of the

00:49:33.040 reasons

00:49:33.280 why Elon

00:49:33.760 Musk's 0.98

00:49:34.520 comments

00:49:34.960 pack an

00:49:35.480 extra

00:49:35.900 wallop

00:49:36.440 is because

00:49:37.200 people know

00:49:37.720 he has been

00:49:38.220 named

00:49:38.760 by Donald

00:49:39.680 Trump

00:49:39.880 as an

00:49:40.160 incoming

00:49:40.580 advisor

00:49:41.360 on how

00:49:41.840 to shrink

00:49:43.340 government

00:49:43.900 waste

00:49:44.500 and so

00:49:46.520 I think

00:49:47.040 part of

00:49:47.940 it is

00:49:48.440 Brits

00:49:49.580 and I

00:49:50.340 mean

00:49:50.440 Emmanuel

00:49:50.940 Macron

00:49:51.340 yesterday

00:49:51.720 was denouncing

00:49:52.680 Elon Musk

00:49:53.300 as a meddler

00:49:53.900 in European

00:49:54.860 affairs

00:49:55.300 I think

00:49:57.320 a lot

00:49:57.740 of European

00:49:58.260 leaders

00:49:59.020 especially

00:49:59.420 on the

00:49:59.800 left

00:50:00.020 are worried

00:50:00.740 that this

00:50:01.800 isn't just

00:50:02.380 Elon Musk

00:50:03.180 Donald

00:50:03.880 Trump

00:50:04.240 may share

00:50:04.880 some of

00:50:05.240 these views

00:50:05.680 and may

00:50:06.040 try something

00:50:06.840 dramatic

00:50:07.760 I mean

00:50:08.080 Elon Musk

00:50:08.600 has called

00:50:09.080 for the

00:50:10.560 king of

00:50:11.020 England

00:50:11.320 to dissolve

00:50:13.260 the parliament

00:50:14.980 and I'm not

00:50:16.200 quite sure

00:50:16.780 if it would

00:50:17.660 rise to

00:50:18.100 I mean

00:50:18.340 I think

00:50:18.640 that's

00:50:19.180 technically

00:50:19.660 a power

00:50:20.540 the king

00:50:20.900 has

00:50:21.160 but I

00:50:21.400 don't

00:50:21.500 think

00:50:21.660 he would

00:50:21.860 ever

00:50:22.040 use it

00:50:22.500 six months

00:50:23.760 into a

00:50:24.820 government

00:50:26.140 just because

00:50:26.660 they're having

00:50:27.120 a run

00:50:27.880 of the mill

00:50:28.140 crisis

00:50:28.600 I think

00:50:31.000 people are

00:50:31.760 worried

00:50:32.260 that

00:50:32.560 Donald

00:50:32.900 Trump

00:50:33.300 might

00:50:33.580 get

00:50:33.820 some

00:50:34.040 of

00:50:34.140 this

00:50:34.280 Elon

00:50:34.580 Musk 0.77

00:50:34.980 zeal

00:50:35.620 and do

00:50:36.880 something

00:50:37.260 dramatic

00:50:37.780 and with

00:50:39.180 Trump

00:50:39.380 it's hard

00:50:39.680 to tell

00:50:40.100 if he's

00:50:40.940 serious

00:50:41.220 when he

00:50:41.520 says he

00:50:41.780 wants to

00:50:42.100 buy

00:50:42.380 Greenland

00:50:43.080 is he

00:50:43.840 serious

00:50:44.200 I think

00:50:44.480 he is

00:50:44.820 in that

00:50:45.100 case

00:50:45.380 when he

00:50:46.180 wants to

00:50:46.520 annex

00:50:46.840 Canada

00:50:47.300 as the

00:50:47.620 51st

00:50:48.140 state

00:50:48.440 I think

00:50:49.180 he would

00:50:49.580 I don't

00:50:49.820 think

00:50:49.960 that's

00:50:50.180 going to

00:50:50.380 happen

00:50:50.600 but Trump

00:50:51.060 likes

00:50:51.320 to

00:50:51.540 banter

00:50:52.000 I think

00:50:53.220 part of

00:50:53.940 it is

00:50:54.300 the Brits

00:50:54.820 are scared

00:50:55.400 of Trump

00:50:56.000 and Keir

00:50:57.220 Starmer

00:50:57.720 and his

00:50:58.160 foreign

00:50:58.420 secretary

00:50:58.900 David

00:50:59.260 Lammy

00:50:59.540 have both

00:51:00.400 personally

00:51:01.940 insulted

00:51:03.320 Trump

00:51:03.800 in the

00:51:04.080 most

00:51:04.360 outrageous

00:51:04.920 language

00:51:05.380 calling him

00:51:05.860 a neo-Nazi

00:51:06.620 a misogynist

00:51:07.960 so I think

00:51:09.220 they're worried

00:51:11.220 that they're

00:51:11.620 going to get

00:51:12.140 smacked back

00:51:13.300 I don't know

00:51:13.740 it's sort of

00:51:14.180 interesting to

00:51:14.860 see

00:51:15.100 because is

00:51:15.820 Musk 0.77

00:51:16.560 acting for

00:51:17.320 himself

00:51:17.800 is he

00:51:18.960 I don't

00:51:20.280 know

00:51:20.820 all of his

00:51:21.700 motivations

00:51:22.340 and I

00:51:23.600 don't know

00:51:24.040 where Trump

00:51:24.960 is on this

00:51:25.500 but I

00:51:26.220 have to

00:51:26.540 tell you

00:51:26.860 it's been

00:51:27.240 fascinating

00:51:27.800 and a

00:51:28.200 pleasure

00:51:28.480 to see

00:51:29.020 a cause

00:51:29.820 that you

00:51:30.200 and I

00:51:30.420 both care

00:51:30.920 about

00:51:31.300 being given

00:51:32.640 such a

00:51:33.680 huge platform

00:51:35.440 last word

00:51:35.960 to you

00:51:36.240 Peter

00:51:36.480 well I

00:51:38.500 don't think

00:51:39.160 there is

00:51:39.440 going to be

00:51:39.740 a Trump

00:51:40.060 tower

00:51:40.280 in Greenland

00:51:40.740 they've got

00:51:41.080 60,000

00:51:41.800 people so

00:51:42.280 I don't

00:51:42.440 think they

00:51:42.740 could fill

00:51:43.100 a Trump

00:51:43.440 tower

00:51:43.720 so that's

00:51:44.180 one thing

00:51:44.700 that's not

00:51:45.120 going to

00:51:45.340 happen

00:51:45.600 but you're

00:51:46.900 right

00:51:47.160 we've

00:51:47.960 there's a

00:51:48.540 lot of

00:51:48.820 talk about

00:51:49.540 billionaires

00:51:50.440 affecting

00:51:51.000 world politics

00:51:51.920 I mean

00:51:52.320 Soros and

00:51:53.800 Gates have

00:51:54.380 never done

00:51:55.000 that have

00:51:55.440 they

00:51:55.660 no we've

00:51:56.460 been critical

00:51:57.080 of that

00:51:57.820 side

00:51:58.260 now I

00:51:59.200 but we've

00:51:59.940 seen the

00:52:00.380 woke pendulum

00:52:01.120 swing so

00:52:02.080 far

00:52:02.660 and to me

00:52:03.680 whenever you

00:52:04.300 talk about

00:52:05.420 the issue of

00:52:05.920 grooming gangs

00:52:06.640 of up to

00:52:07.460 million girls 1.00

00:52:08.320 being trafficked

00:52:09.700 sexually trafficked

00:52:11.400 in the UK

00:52:11.980 and that

00:52:12.860 being accepted

00:52:13.500 as completely

00:52:14.120 normal

00:52:14.620 if you're

00:52:15.900 against that

00:52:16.640 you're an

00:52:17.040 extremist

00:52:17.620 you're far

00:52:18.100 right

00:52:18.440 then I

00:52:20.600 want a

00:52:21.020 light to

00:52:21.360 be shown

00:52:21.840 on that

00:52:22.540 injustice

00:52:23.100 and if

00:52:24.000 that means

00:52:24.440 a billionaire

00:52:24.920 affecting UK

00:52:26.600 politics

00:52:27.260 then bring

00:52:28.720 it on

00:52:29.120 I don't know

00:52:29.720 whether that

00:52:30.160 makes me a

00:52:30.980 hypocrite

00:52:31.440 I haven't

00:52:32.420 sat back

00:52:33.000 and looked

00:52:33.360 because we're

00:52:33.760 only seven

00:52:34.320 days into

00:52:34.780 this year

00:52:35.300 so I

00:52:35.980 haven't yet

00:52:36.360 processed

00:52:36.880 what exactly

00:52:38.060 is happening

00:52:38.660 but as

00:52:40.200 someone

00:52:40.880 who has

00:52:42.880 talked about

00:52:43.700 and highlighted

00:52:44.640 this horrendous

00:52:45.880 issue

00:52:46.300 back from

00:52:47.180 when we

00:52:47.460 launched in

00:52:47.880 Horto in

00:52:48.300 2020

00:52:48.820 Laura Pearson

00:52:49.300 will be

00:52:49.500 doing it

00:52:49.760 for longer

00:52:50.220 many others

00:52:50.900 have been

00:52:51.200 doing it

00:52:51.460 for even

00:52:51.680 longer

00:52:52.020 than that

00:52:52.540 we need

00:52:54.160 to get

00:52:54.520 justice

00:52:54.880 for these

00:52:55.300 girls 0.98

00:52:55.520 so I'm

00:52:56.020 interested

00:52:56.460 in justice

00:52:57.260 and if

00:52:58.300 Elon Musk

00:52:58.980 speaking

00:52:59.500 brings justice

00:53:00.940 to those

00:53:01.780 girls 0.98

00:53:02.180 then I'm

00:53:03.740 extremely

00:53:04.200 happy with

00:53:04.840 that

00:53:05.000 if that

00:53:05.380 makes me

00:53:05.760 a hypocrite

00:53:06.200 then that

00:53:06.480 makes me

00:53:06.800 a hypocrite

00:53:07.360 but I'll

00:53:08.060 want that

00:53:08.720 to be

00:53:09.000 outweighed

00:53:09.700 by the

00:53:10.280 good that

00:53:10.640 it does

00:53:11.100 to get

00:53:11.720 injustice

00:53:12.180 for these

00:53:13.080 girls 0.98

00:53:13.420 that have

00:53:14.040 been

00:53:14.180 completely

00:53:14.540 ignored

00:53:15.400 by society

00:53:16.580 and the

00:53:17.180 media

00:53:17.500 so this

00:53:18.860 is what

00:53:19.240 we have

00:53:19.700 hoped for

00:53:20.720 wished for

00:53:21.320 prayed for

00:53:22.120 for many

00:53:22.920 years

00:53:23.400 that someone

00:53:24.580 like Elon

00:53:25.340 Musk would 1.00

00:53:25.960 see this

00:53:26.500 issue for

00:53:27.000 what it

00:53:27.400 was as

00:53:27.940 an injustice

00:53:28.500 and highlight

00:53:29.820 this

00:53:30.260 now you

00:53:30.960 see some

00:53:31.380 of his

00:53:31.660 tweets

00:53:32.000 and you

00:53:32.220 think

00:53:32.460 I wouldn't

00:53:33.540 tweet that

00:53:34.120 and you

00:53:34.560 wonder

00:53:34.920 what's

00:53:35.880 happening

00:53:36.220 but at

00:53:37.240 the end

00:53:37.540 of the

00:53:37.780 day

00:53:38.120 the focus

00:53:39.000 is on

00:53:40.000 good

00:53:40.360 the focus

00:53:40.800 is on

00:53:41.180 getting

00:53:41.420 these

00:53:41.720 girls 0.98

00:53:42.140 the right

00:53:43.860 for justice

00:53:44.460 so I'll

00:53:45.640 go along

00:53:46.080 with that

00:53:46.560 I don't know

00:53:47.240 why that makes

00:53:47.760 me a hypocrite

00:53:48.380 but hey

00:53:49.260 we'll go along

00:53:50.520 with that

00:53:50.860 I'm enjoying

00:53:51.480 the ride

00:53:52.000 and hey

00:53:52.700 we've got

00:53:53.580 another 51

00:53:54.380 weeks in the

00:53:54.940 year to go

00:53:55.360 so who knows

00:53:55.880 what could

00:53:56.200 happen

00:53:56.460 and Trump

00:53:57.120 hasn't even

00:53:57.580 taken the

00:53:58.060 White House

00:53:58.520 yet

00:53:58.780 he's not

00:53:59.420 in his seat

00:54:00.140 so who knows

00:54:01.080 yeah it's

00:54:01.520 amazing days

00:54:02.140 well Peter

00:54:02.660 great to see you

00:54:03.320 great to catch

00:54:03.880 up give my

00:54:04.460 best to Lord

00:54:05.140 Pearson

00:54:05.520 and we'll

00:54:07.620 keep watching

00:54:08.260 and we'll

00:54:08.700 visit from

00:54:09.160 time to

00:54:09.600 time we've

00:54:10.000 been talking

00:54:10.380 with Peter

00:54:10.740 McIlvenna

00:54:11.260 he's a special

00:54:12.260 assistant to

00:54:12.880 Lord Pearson

00:54:13.520 member of the

00:54:14.340 House of Lords

00:54:14.840 in the UK

00:54:15.280 he's the founder

00:54:15.940 of Hearts of

00:54:16.500 Oak

00:54:16.720 and like me

00:54:17.700 he's a friend

00:54:18.720 of Tommy

00:54:19.160 that's our show

00:54:20.500 for today

00:54:20.940 until next time

00:54:22.280 on behalf of

00:54:23.120 all of us here

00:54:23.720 at Rebel World

00:54:24.560 Headquarters

00:54:25.140 to you at home

00:54:25.760 good night

00:54:26.200 and keep fighting

00:54:27.540 for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - January 09, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Elon Musk WARS with British gov't over grooming gangs

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