Rebel News Podcast - January 09, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Elon Musk WARS with British gov't over grooming gangs


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

171.98773

Word Count

9,368

Sentence Count

515

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

The battle between Elon Musk and the Labour Party in the UK is just amazing. I have a friend who works in the House of Lords at the Palace of Westminster in Parliament, and he s got an interesting eye view on this. He works for a UKIP peer. I ll explain what all that means if you don t understand it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Oh boy, the battle between Elon Musk and the labor party in the UK is just amazing.
00:00:06.140 Elon Musk is not stopping. I think he's doing 100 tweets or retweets a day.
00:00:10.200 I don't even think I'm exaggerating. It is rocking that country's politics.
00:00:15.200 I have a friend who works in the House of Lords at the Palace of Westminster in Parliament,
00:00:20.660 and he's got an interesting eye view on this. He works for a UKIP peer.
00:00:25.760 I'll explain what all that means if you don't understand it.
00:00:27.940 But basically, we'll get the inside view from the eye of the hurricane on this free speech battle.
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00:01:48.480 Tonight, Elon Musk continues his war against the U.K. Labor government.
00:02:05.220 We'll have a whole discussion about it with someone who works in the British Parliament.
00:02:09.640 It's January 8th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:02:12.400 You're fighting for freedom!
00:02:15.700 Shame on you, you censorious!
00:02:18.200 Well, Rebel News is based in Canada.
00:02:30.020 Even though we do have a correspondent in Melbourne, Australia, the great Avi Yamini.
00:02:35.320 I call him a one-man army.
00:02:36.920 He's actually got two associates down there.
00:02:39.600 He's doing a great job in Australia.
00:02:41.700 Canada is our home.
00:02:42.660 We love Canada.
00:02:43.900 We find it amusing that Donald Trump wants to annex us.
00:02:47.100 By the way, you know, I think he's a little bit serious about Greenland.
00:02:51.700 Donald Trump Jr. just landed there to poke around to see about acquiring some real estate.
00:02:57.860 But I think that Canada is an important and independent country, and we were once, I would say, a great country.
00:03:05.060 We're not a mighty country, but, I mean, look at our history.
00:03:07.960 Look what we did.
00:03:08.560 We had a beach, Juneau Beach, right next to the big boys on D-Day.
00:03:13.620 And I think we punch above our way, to use a phrase.
00:03:16.940 I think that when Justin Trudeau announced his intentions to resign, a very interesting observation I saw was not a single G7 world leader even mentioned it.
00:03:28.540 It was just like an empty cab pulled up on Parliament Hill, and Justin Trudeau got out.
00:03:34.920 He's a nullity.
00:03:37.340 No one even cares.
00:03:40.000 Canada's our home.
00:03:40.780 We love Canada, and so we understand the gentle ribbing of Donald Trump, but we want to remain independent.
00:03:46.640 That said, we care about the world because we see the same themes here at home in Canada, around the world, sometimes further down the path.
00:03:54.760 And you know that I travel to the United Kingdom, and you know that I call it my dystopian time machine, that if I visit there, I feel like I'm five years into the future, further down the road on mass immigration.
00:04:05.860 We haven't talked a lot about what they call ultra-low emission zones, or ULEZ, and they have these spy cameras, CCTV cameras, checking who's driving on a street at a certain time.
00:04:18.060 And you get a ticket or a fine if you're not allowed to be there.
00:04:21.840 That's the 15-minute cities going down that road.
00:04:25.740 Censorship.
00:04:26.460 So I go to the United Kingdom, and I report on stories like Tommy Robinson, who's in jail right now, for violating a court order not to publish a video.
00:04:34.660 Well, that's a form, a very draconian form of censorship, the lads in solitary confinement.
00:04:40.080 And so I go to the United Kingdom because I love it, because I love the people, and I love the history, and I love the language.
00:04:45.220 I love the culture.
00:04:46.000 I love Shakespeare.
00:04:47.140 I love so many things about the U.K.
00:04:48.820 Maybe I'm searching for a classiness that I myself don't have.
00:04:53.280 But I also go there because I know what happens there today will happen to us if we don't change the course we're on.
00:04:59.620 And a lot has happened.
00:05:01.080 And they say sometimes years go by when nothing happens, and then weeks go by and years happen.
00:05:07.040 And I think it's the latter.
00:05:08.240 And joining us now to talk about a fascinating week, and it's only been a week, in the United Kingdom, is my friend, Peter McIlvenna,
00:05:16.920 who is a special assistant to a member of the House of Lords, Lord Pearson of Rannock.
00:05:21.980 What a delight to talk to Peter, who, by the way, is the host of his own show called Hearts of Oak.
00:05:28.560 Peter, nice to see you.
00:05:30.400 Great to see you, Ezra.
00:05:31.620 And I remember two years ago visiting your offices there and seeing your phenomenal setup,
00:05:36.180 and always good to see you in London, but it's an honor to join you on your show, Ezra.
00:05:40.160 Well, you're very nice to say that.
00:05:41.720 I mean, we have a pretty humble setup here, but it's all crowdfunded from our viewers,
00:05:46.820 so they'll be grateful to hear your compliments.
00:05:48.800 Before we talk about what's happened in this last week, I want to talk about your boss,
00:05:55.000 who I've had the pleasure of meeting.
00:05:56.880 He's just such a classic Brit.
00:05:58.960 He's a member of the House of Lords.
00:06:00.320 He started as a Conservative.
00:06:02.800 Then he joined the UK Independence Party, which was the pro-Brexit party.
00:06:07.740 Give us a minute on Lord Pearson, and then I'm going to show an amazing video of him in action in the House of Lords.
00:06:13.600 But tell us who Lord Pearson is.
00:06:15.780 So Lord Pearson's background was insurance.
00:06:17.860 He was a Lloyds of London name, so in insurance, and actually was concerned of how the insurance industry was scamming people.
00:06:28.600 And he stood up to Lloyds of London.
00:06:31.000 He lost that fight, but Margaret Thatcher saw his tenacity in standing up to corruption,
00:06:36.580 and Margaret Thatcher asked him to join her government.
00:06:40.840 She put him in the House of Lords.
00:06:42.540 Lord Pearson was one of Margaret Thatcher's last appointees in the House of Lords before she was stabbed in the back and removed as leader.
00:06:50.960 So Lord Pearson went in as a Conservative.
00:06:52.860 And then at the misfortune of reading, it was one of the European treaties, and said, why is no one reading this?
00:07:00.320 This is passing over power to another entity.
00:07:03.160 So he highlighted that, was one of the original Eurosceptic rebels, the original Brexit rebels, and for basically standing up to that and talking about this new little party that we're starting called UKIP, United Kingdom Independence Party, headed up by Nigel Farage.
00:07:21.140 He highlighted the good things they were doing, and because of that, he was thrown out of the Conservative Party.
00:07:27.080 So he joined UKIP.
00:07:28.840 He was UKIP leader in 2009, 2010, as being one of the most original Maastricht rebels, original Brexit rebels, and now is the only one in the House of Lords, maybe bar Baroness Cox, who speaks on Islam and the clash of Islam between the freedoms we have in the West.
00:07:46.800 And he's done that for 10 years, and he is a lone voice in the House of Lords.
00:07:52.180 That doesn't put him off.
00:07:53.700 He is a maverick.
00:07:54.720 He does what he thinks is right, and to hell with the consequences.
00:07:59.220 And that's why it's a privilege working for him for the last 10 plus years.
00:08:04.460 Yeah, he really is quite a character.
00:08:07.140 He loves the history of the UK, and I think he truly lives up to what a good member of the House of Lords is.
00:08:14.140 It wasn't just a patronage gig.
00:08:15.880 It wasn't just a, as we say in canon about our Senate, you know, you've heard the phrase a thankless task.
00:08:21.560 We call the Senate here a taskless thanks.
00:08:24.840 I think Lord Pearson takes his seat there very seriously, and I want to show you, before I go further, I had the pleasure of interviewing him a few years ago.
00:08:34.180 Let me just show you a quick clip of me talking to Lord Pearson about what it's like being a maverick,
00:08:38.940 and then I'm going to throw to a very important speech he gave in the House of Lords that was recently retweeted by Elon Musk that millions of people saw.
00:08:48.000 But here's when I first met Lord Pearson.
00:08:49.900 Take a look.
00:08:50.300 I am standing in the precincts of the Mother of Parliaments here in the United Kingdom, and standing with me is Lord Pearson of Rannoch.
00:08:57.100 What a pleasure to meet you in your home turf.
00:08:59.980 The honor is entirely mine.
00:09:01.620 Well, come now.
00:09:02.380 It's nice of you to say.
00:09:03.380 What was so interesting to me is that you're a peer.
00:09:06.860 You're a member of the House of Lords, and yet you are friends with someone that someone would say is on the opposite end of the spectrum from you in many walks of life.
00:09:14.920 I'm talking about Tommy Robinson.
00:09:17.000 How did that unlikely friendship come about?
00:09:20.860 Well, I can't remember.
00:09:22.040 I remember now how Tommy and I met.
00:09:23.900 I was asking one of my questions in the Lords, really trying to talk about Islam.
00:09:29.620 And I was trying to find out, ask publicly, whether to talk about Islam, to try and understand Islam, the tenets of Islam and all that, constituted hate speech.
00:09:45.280 And Tommy heard about this, and so he decided to come and listen.
00:09:50.000 And he was supposed to go into the public gallery, as I understood it.
00:09:53.480 But, of course, he met up with some of my friends.
00:09:55.760 And before we knew where we were, he was in the Distinguished Visitors Gallery in the front row in front of the Liberal Democrat Party, who all got extremely jumpy about the whole thing.
00:10:06.280 And then I had such a rough ride in that particular question, which I think has gone on YouTube and that sort of thing, that when Tommy came to him, I said, I'd like to interview him.
00:10:15.860 I said, yes, Tommy, come on, let's do an interview.
00:10:17.480 So we went and did an interview together, which isn't very good, but it's got some good parts in it.
00:10:22.540 And I met him, and I met a most remarkable man.
00:10:26.800 I met someone who's not at all what the mainstream media and the idiotic political establishment would have you believe.
00:10:36.140 Well, I really like him.
00:10:37.760 Just his personality alone makes me want to be his friend.
00:10:41.180 I am so grateful he's there in the House of Lords.
00:10:43.820 But to be serious for a moment, here is an astonishingly bold and clear and fair speech that he gave in the House of Lords that Elon Musk recently discovered this video and retweeted.
00:10:56.060 Take a look.
00:10:56.420 I would accept that if we extrapolate nationally the Jay report on Rotherham and other reports on Telford and Oxford, there appear to have been upwards of 250,000 young white girls raped in this century, very largely by Muslim men.
00:11:15.480 And given these girls are usually raped several times a day for years, so, my Lords, what is the Government's answer to the Chief Constable of Northumberland, of Northumbria, who has just said that there is every likelihood that these grooming gangs are operating in every one of our major cities?
00:11:36.140 So, my Lords, what is the Government doing to prosecute those in authority who turned a blind eye to all this because they were afraid of being Islamophobic and so on?
00:11:47.840 And what is it doing to compensate and help these victims mentally?
00:11:53.140 Mentally.
00:11:56.020 My Lords, I really refute the fact that the Government is turning a blind eye to those in authority.
00:12:03.400 Sorry that those in authority are turning a blind eye to this.
00:12:07.020 Noble Lords from across the House have outlined the various child sexual abuse perpetrations in various parts of the country.
00:12:17.940 And, my Lords, one thing we can say above all else is what these people target is vulnerability.
00:12:25.380 It's not specific to race, creed, or colour. It's vulnerability.
00:12:29.300 Now, Peter, that video of that speech was a few years ago, but something amazing has been happening in the UK over the last seven days.
00:12:36.880 I'm not sure what sparked it, but Elon Musk, the world's richest man, the owner of X, formerly Twitter, and the most followed man on Twitter with more than 200 million followers, has taken a very intense interest in the UK, especially around the issue of what is euphemistically called grooming gangs.
00:12:57.400 I don't like that because it really is a euphemism. It hides the atrocious reality.
00:13:04.260 These are serial rape gangs that rape girls night after night.
00:13:08.660 They extort and blackmail. And they're girls. They're not women.
00:13:13.040 They're as young as 9 or 10 or 11 years old.
00:13:17.340 Elon Musk has taken a passionate interest in this outrage, this scandal.
00:13:22.720 Tell us about it.
00:13:23.720 Well, I mean, you're there. I mean, I'm here and I'm watching it with amazement.
00:13:27.900 Tell us about Elon Musk in the UK over the last week.
00:13:31.580 Well, first, I remember that interview, Ezra.
00:13:34.480 I remember being there right in front of the Lords in one of your many visits.
00:13:38.560 And I know Lord Pearson has met up with you on nearly all of those visits.
00:13:42.780 And he's found a privilege to meet with you as you speak truth worldwide.
00:13:48.040 But that, Elon Musk, so I looked at my phone.
00:13:53.040 It was the 1st of January.
00:13:56.000 And what a happy new year present you could get.
00:13:59.620 Elon Musk had posted free Tommy Robinson.
00:14:03.280 So that, not only had he posted that, but he had pinned it to the top of his profile.
00:14:07.860 And he pinned it for two days.
00:14:09.240 This caused, as you can imagine, a lot of ructions in the UK political system, the UK media system, the UK establishment that were in sheer panic at Elon Musk mentioning the name of the person who cannot be named, Tommy Robinson.
00:14:27.060 So you've got that on one side.
00:14:30.140 And then it started that Elon Musk started highlighting the failure of the grooming gangs.
00:14:35.600 I think partially this came from Oldham Council, a council in the middle of England.
00:14:42.060 The council officials had called for an investigation into grooming gangs in Oldham, which is Muslim Pakistani rape gangs that have happened since 1975, was a rather madvertiser first post.
00:14:55.220 So we're looking at 50-plus years in the UK.
00:14:58.880 And Elon Musk had highlighted this failure of the government to have an independent inquiry into this area in Oldham, called by the council.
00:15:09.100 I think that was possibly the lightning rod.
00:15:11.660 Now, Tommy has done Raid for Britain series.
00:15:14.360 He's up to about number five, highlighting this injustice and making this a personal issue.
00:15:19.820 Talking to the girls who face this issue, not just the numbers, which Noor Pierce talked about, Gore Vermillion, Sarah Champion, the MP for one of those areas, has talked about up to a million girls have been affected.
00:15:33.540 This is industrial scale sexual abuse of white girls across the country by Muslim Pakistani men.
00:15:41.080 And therefore, the police, local authority, child services have all turned a blind eye to this for fear of a race riot.
00:15:50.020 That's the term that's being used by a number of officials.
00:15:53.260 Elon, of course, doesn't really give a damn about any of that.
00:15:56.240 So he just goes for it.
00:15:58.060 And he highlights this.
00:15:58.940 Listen, we have, I know that whenever we started Hearts of Oak in 2020, we wanted to highlight this in our first petition, which got 100,000 within three days.
00:16:08.880 We had a government debate on the deportation of a lot of these evil individuals.
00:16:14.620 If they had dual nationalities, they should be deported.
00:16:17.060 The government, of course, ignored that.
00:16:18.620 We also had a petition to call for the release of a government report on this.
00:16:25.260 The government had failed to release that.
00:16:27.000 We were able to force that to be put out in December 2020.
00:16:31.840 And, of course, Lord Pearson has been talking about this since 2018.
00:16:34.600 He's been highlighting the issue of Islam, the incompatibility of Islam and the freedoms we have in the West, especially look at the freedoms of women, the freedoms of those who are non-Muslim.
00:16:46.060 And he's talked about that since 2015 at least and grooming gang since 2018.
00:16:52.320 And it's that speech that he talked about quarter of a million girls have been affected by this and millions and millions of rips.
00:17:00.920 And you look at the stories, you talk to these girls.
00:17:03.300 I've talked to quite a number of them and it is harrowing.
00:17:06.920 And Lord Pearson seems to be the only one, really apart from Baroness Cox, who stood up in the House of Lords and has highlighted this.
00:17:15.060 And because he has highlighted that he has been attacked, he has been criticized in the media, in politics, they have tried to eject him from the House of Lords for linking what is happening in these rape gangs to Islam.
00:17:31.200 And he's laid it out.
00:17:32.320 And they have tried to attack him for that and change the language so you can no longer talk about Islam, you have to talk about Islamism.
00:17:38.640 It is huge.
00:17:39.840 And Elon Musk in the last six days has actually shown a bigger spotlight on this than we've been able to do since 2012 from when this was on the front page of the Times.
00:17:50.600 You know, it was on New Year's Day.
00:17:52.600 I saw that tweet by Elon Musk that said, free Tommy Robinson.
00:17:56.360 And as you know, we try and help Tommy.
00:17:58.860 We don't just journalism about it.
00:18:00.800 We're crowdfunding his lawyers.
00:18:03.120 And I try and give a little help.
00:18:04.340 I'm a former lawyer myself.
00:18:05.320 So I wrote a little letter on Twitter and I did a show about this.
00:18:10.220 I said, dear Elon Musk, here's what's going on.
00:18:14.260 To my surprise, he saw it.
00:18:16.500 I mean, I don't know how he – there's so much content on Twitter and there's so many people trying to get Elon Musk's attention.
00:18:23.380 I do not know how I managed to cut through the clutter.
00:18:26.240 I mean, I can only imagine it's just – there's a million people a day probably.
00:18:32.080 But he saw it.
00:18:33.760 He reposted it.
00:18:35.380 41 million people saw my little summary.
00:18:38.440 41 million saw my little summary of Tommy's case.
00:18:43.440 And I think Tommy – I don't know if you know where the word scapegoat comes from.
00:18:48.140 It's a biblical idea that you put the sins on the goat and drive the goat out.
00:18:54.080 And the scapegoat is where all the innocent people deposit their sins on the animal to bear the sins away.
00:19:02.180 That's the ancient biblical source of scapegoat.
00:19:08.280 And Tommy is the scapegoat.
00:19:10.960 All the sins, all the omissions, all the people turning a blind eye, let's put it on Tommy.
00:19:18.260 He's a ruffian.
00:19:19.220 He's a convicted criminal.
00:19:20.400 Did you know he served time in jail for violence?
00:19:23.820 You know, all these – or whatever it was.
00:19:25.760 I mean, he got into a fight.
00:19:27.380 And if we just hate Tommy Robinson, we can distract from our own sins.
00:19:32.340 And the establishment that covered it – I read the Commission of Inquiry into Rotherham.
00:19:38.420 It's a shocking document.
00:19:39.940 I think it was actually quite revealing.
00:19:42.420 I think you'll learn a lot from it.
00:19:44.900 It'll terrify you.
00:19:45.960 And you can search for the word racism.
00:19:47.820 You know, it's an electronic document.
00:19:50.120 You alt-F.
00:19:51.340 You type in R-A-C-I-S, racism, racist.
00:19:56.320 It pops up again and again.
00:19:58.020 When people were asked, why didn't you say anything?
00:20:00.920 They said, I was worried about being called racist.
00:20:04.080 So you – and I think that's such an important thing here.
00:20:06.960 There's a dynamic, and you alluded to it.
00:20:09.800 Eighty-plus percent of the rapists are Pakistani Muslim men.
00:20:14.480 And 90-plus percent of the rape victims are working-class white girls.
00:20:20.100 And I contend, Peter, that if it was white rapists and white girls,
00:20:25.320 or Pakistani rapists and Pakistani girls, this would be a mainstream story.
00:20:33.920 But – and certainly if it was white rapists and Pakistani girls.
00:20:37.960 But because it was foreign, visible minority, religious minority rapists,
00:20:45.980 and working-class white girls that nobody cares about,
00:20:49.700 that perfect storm of DEI rapes, of woke rapes, is why everyone was afraid.
00:20:57.980 And it's so hard to talk about.
00:21:00.660 But here's Majid Nawaz, who has an interesting and colorful history himself.
00:21:06.100 Here he is on a radio station called LBC a few years ago, saying,
00:21:11.460 everyone was afraid to talk about it.
00:21:13.640 So Tommy Robinson filled the void.
00:21:16.300 And anyone who's mad at Tommy should ask, why was that void left?
00:21:21.880 Why did all the acceptable people shut up?
00:21:25.440 Here's Majid Nawaz.
00:21:26.360 And so from fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country
00:21:33.600 as multiple cases of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country,
00:21:38.520 as evidenced now due to multiple prosecutions, successful prosecutions,
00:21:44.040 but sadly and unfortunately too late.
00:21:46.320 If we hadn't all been silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on
00:21:51.640 when it needed to be addressed, when it was time to address it,
00:21:56.200 then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap
00:22:01.960 and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue.
00:22:07.980 They ended up hijacking what should have been the concern
00:22:11.320 of every right-minded citizen in this country.
00:22:14.260 And unfortunately, it takes a bit of courage to address something
00:22:20.300 that people will hurl abuse at you for talking about.
00:22:23.940 There have been multiple cases now, and it's beyond any level of doubt
00:22:27.860 that there's a disproportionate number of British Muslims involved in grooming gangs
00:22:32.600 against underage white girls.
00:22:34.760 And to say that is to report on the facts.
00:22:38.760 It's not to be racist.
00:22:40.780 And if we're backing away from this conversation,
00:22:43.320 then all we're doing is leaving the ground far open
00:22:46.860 in what is a legitimate issue that requires addressing.
00:22:50.340 We're leaving the ground for the populist to hijack that legitimate issue
00:22:54.120 and make it their own for their own nefarious purposes.
00:22:58.540 And that's precisely what's been going on.
00:23:01.340 And it's in that regard that what I'm saying here is I just wish,
00:23:06.880 I wish that those young girls had seen justice served for them
00:23:13.360 as fast as the judge served Tommy Robinson justice in this case.
00:23:18.640 Because in this case, it's very easy for us to pick on the bogeyman.
00:23:22.480 But actually, the truth is that our silence over decades in this country
00:23:26.600 is the real bogeyman.
00:23:27.940 And that's the real thing we should despise,
00:23:29.780 our own cowardice in the face of grooming of young girls
00:23:33.000 up and down this country and our conspiracy of silence.
00:23:36.400 You know, it's so hard to talk about it.
00:23:38.200 I think that's why Nigel Farage himself,
00:23:40.280 who I regard as a hero for Brexit
00:23:42.460 and his fight against the banks for debanking conservatives,
00:23:47.120 I regard Nigel Farage as a hero.
00:23:48.980 But I think he's so afraid of being called racist,
00:23:51.860 or in the UK they use the word far right,
00:23:54.560 which would be like alt right here.
00:23:56.340 I think Nigel Farage probably agrees with Tommy on 80% of things,
00:24:01.160 but he feels a need to, in a very demonstrative way,
00:24:05.160 denounce Tommy lest he be lumped in with him.
00:24:07.840 What do you make of that?
00:24:09.180 What do you make of the absolute sheer terror?
00:24:14.160 It's the same terror that the social workers, the police,
00:24:17.040 the hospital workers in Rotherham faced.
00:24:19.580 That's what they told the Rotherham Commission.
00:24:21.300 I think Nigel Farage has the same fear in him.
00:24:25.200 I think you're right.
00:24:26.960 And Ezra, I saw that tweet you put up and he reposted it,
00:24:31.160 and it's been one of the many wow moments in the last week.
00:24:33.740 And I thought, well done for Ezra.
00:24:35.660 I saw that.
00:24:36.800 I'm meddling in your,
00:24:37.860 I'm a foreigner meddling in British affairs.
00:24:41.300 Meddle away.
00:24:42.260 Hey, you've got rid of your prime minister,
00:24:44.200 me, you can help us get rid of ours.
00:24:45.660 But that's a whole other issue.
00:24:47.220 So meddle away.
00:24:48.060 But I saw that reposting and that was great
00:24:51.360 because that gave some of the facts and information
00:24:54.340 about why Tommy is where he is.
00:24:57.620 Now, it's weird seeing this clash
00:24:59.440 because Nigel didn't have to be in this situation.
00:25:01.680 I don't know who's giving Nigel the media advice,
00:25:05.060 but whoever they are needs to be taken out and, well, sacked.
00:25:07.960 Let's say that, sacked.
00:25:09.700 Because they are basically saying that you have to attack Tommy.
00:25:15.500 No, no.
00:25:15.820 Nigel could have done what other reform MPs have done,
00:25:19.220 like Rupert Lue.
00:25:19.960 He could have given credit to Tommy
00:25:21.780 for the work he's done on grooming gangs.
00:25:24.320 And Tommy was one of the early people talk about grooming gangs
00:25:27.320 and people talk about, you know,
00:25:29.100 I was first, I was first.
00:25:30.660 Well, no, no, no, you weren't.
00:25:32.200 Julie Bindell was maybe the first person in the media in 2007.
00:25:37.860 Andrew Norfolk was the first person front page
00:25:41.000 in the Times in 2012.
00:25:42.660 And Cryer was the first MP back in 2003, a Labour MP.
00:25:47.920 They have all suffered abuse for highlighting this issue.
00:25:51.500 Tommy has also suffered abuse for highlighting this issue.
00:25:53.520 And he has highlighted this back in his EDL days.
00:25:57.100 And he's been criticised a lot for that.
00:25:59.160 But back then, he was talking about this clash in Islam in the West.
00:26:03.520 And early on, he talked about that issue in grooming gangs.
00:26:06.480 He's highlighted this, as has Nigel at times as well.
00:26:09.800 But not the focus of Tommy.
00:26:11.840 But Nigel has a lot of other issues on his plate.
00:26:14.040 But you don't need to go to war against Tommy.
00:26:15.800 You can say, well done for what you've done.
00:26:17.940 But actually, we are building a new political party, Reform UK.
00:26:22.160 And we don't want you to be part of it.
00:26:23.580 He could have done that.
00:26:24.420 But instead, he attacked Tommy and called him all these things.
00:26:28.760 Mocked him, ridiculed him, saying he was basically one of those.
00:26:34.360 He's in prison.
00:26:35.300 He's serving time.
00:26:36.240 He's got many records on his name for doing all different things.
00:26:41.540 But Nigel didn't have to do that.
00:26:44.680 And I think Nigel, maybe he's worried about Tommy getting the spotlight.
00:26:50.700 Maybe this is the class issue of Tommy being a working class lad
00:26:53.680 from Luton, a down-and-out town in the UK.
00:26:57.360 And Nigel is different.
00:26:58.640 I don't know.
00:26:59.240 But Nigel doesn't have to have this battle.
00:27:01.300 And I think he's been fairly foolish.
00:27:02.800 He's tried to roll back a little bit in terms of,
00:27:06.060 Elon, I didn't mean it.
00:27:07.640 I'm kind of sorry.
00:27:09.340 Let's be friends.
00:27:10.440 But at the same time, even this morning,
00:27:11.980 he was attacking Tommy again.
00:27:14.140 And there's no need for that.
00:27:15.960 I found in the media space that if you disagree with someone,
00:27:20.820 don't spend the time attacking them.
00:27:23.080 Focus on things actually you want to do, you want to build up.
00:27:27.080 Because the media space can be a negative space.
00:27:30.820 And you can choose whether you're partaking in that or not.
00:27:33.640 And Nigel's chosen to partake in that negative side
00:27:36.960 and attack Tommy when he didn't need to.
00:27:39.740 So it's a peculiar fight that he has picked.
00:27:43.040 And obviously, he's picked it up against Elon Musk,
00:27:45.660 which is a rather foolish fight to have.
00:27:48.560 Yeah.
00:27:48.740 I mean, Elon Musk was contemplating really supporting Reform UK.
00:27:53.540 I mean, he was a huge help to Donald Trump in America.
00:27:57.600 You mentioned Nigel poking at Tommy Robinson.
00:28:02.060 I mean, listen, if I was a party leader of a new party,
00:28:04.480 I wouldn't want to consort with a guy who had so many little asterisks
00:28:08.320 near his name.
00:28:09.220 And Tommy has served time in jail on multiple occasions.
00:28:13.340 And not all of it has been political.
00:28:15.680 I mean, he did have some other...
00:28:18.100 I mean, he is a mixed bag if you're a political leader.
00:28:23.760 But there's no need to attack Tommy so performatively
00:28:28.240 in a way that I think was calculated to impress the regime media.
00:28:32.540 I think that that shows too much deference to the peer pressure
00:28:36.440 of the cool kids in the regime media.
00:28:38.340 We see that in Canada too.
00:28:40.600 One of the things I like about Canada's Pierre Pauly,
00:28:42.780 of the new leader of the Conservative Party here,
00:28:44.660 is he hates the media.
00:28:45.680 Well, he doesn't hate the media.
00:28:46.680 He fights with the media.
00:28:47.860 He never grants them the moral high ground.
00:28:50.080 He always challenges their premises.
00:28:52.720 He doesn't allow them to have the moral authority.
00:28:56.220 That's...
00:28:56.520 In fact, I think that's his greatest strength.
00:28:58.180 And that tells me he won't be blown off course.
00:29:00.460 Nigel, I fear it's the opposite.
00:29:01.600 Here's that clip you referred to.
00:29:03.060 Here's Nigel Farage this morning on a radio station called LBC,
00:29:08.340 claiming that Tommy has a bunch of...
00:29:10.320 Claiming that Tommy is violence against women.
00:29:12.640 And I know I checked this morning.
00:29:15.320 I'm familiar with all of Tommy's grapes with the law.
00:29:17.700 And there have been too many.
00:29:18.920 But this goes too far.
00:29:20.200 Take a look.
00:29:20.780 This Tommy Robinson character, who some see as a hero.
00:29:24.900 And all right, you know, he's talked about grooming gangs and other things.
00:29:28.240 Although he'd hardly been on his own on that, has he?
00:29:30.380 I mean, I was first being condemned in 2012 for daring to talk about it.
00:29:34.460 Anne Cryer was talking about it in 2002.
00:29:36.160 Yeah, no, she was...
00:29:37.240 I mean, she is the heroine...
00:29:38.080 20-plus years.
00:29:38.640 She's the heroine of all of this.
00:29:40.560 As, indeed, to be fair, Andrew Norfolk, who was writing for the Times.
00:29:43.520 Yes, the Times journalist.
00:29:43.980 You know, and Sue Reid on the Mail.
00:29:45.540 There were some very brave figures early on.
00:29:47.900 But when figures like myself as party leaders dared pop their head over the parapet,
00:29:51.680 we were smashed back down very, very quickly.
00:29:55.220 So, you know, Robinson's talked about this,
00:29:58.120 but he has a criminal record, a list as long as your arm.
00:30:01.940 Violence, violence against women.
00:30:04.480 I mean, I could go on, Nick.
00:30:05.880 And all I'm saying is, look, Mr Robinson, do what the hell you like.
00:30:09.440 We are totally separate from that.
00:30:11.820 And I never wanted...
00:30:12.840 You know this.
00:30:13.640 You've known me long enough to know.
00:30:14.760 I've never wanted my parties to have anything to do with the BMP or extremism.
00:30:19.740 And I never will.
00:30:20.160 Why have they attracted people then, Mr Farage?
00:30:22.120 Because in the past they have attracted that light.
00:30:24.040 Well, not when I've led parties, no.
00:30:26.280 So, you know, what I inherited...
00:30:28.020 I take you back to the last general election.
00:30:29.600 Well, well...
00:30:30.100 Possibly you didn't have enough time.
00:30:31.500 No, no, no.
00:30:32.060 I had no say over that whatsoever.
00:30:33.700 I came in right at the last minute.
00:30:35.380 There were people there that shouldn't have been there.
00:30:36.920 That will never happen again.
00:30:38.420 And the thing about that, Peter,
00:30:40.580 is that a lot of Tommy supporters will know that's untrue
00:30:43.860 and will feel that's deeply unfair.
00:30:45.460 And they will feel that sort of like a deplorables moment
00:30:48.740 when Hillary Clinton said,
00:30:49.980 oh, this basket of deplorable people.
00:30:52.660 And you don't talk that way about people.
00:30:54.560 I was in Clacton.
00:30:56.000 That's Nigel Farage's district on election night.
00:30:58.760 I went there.
00:30:59.900 I wanted to see what was going on.
00:31:01.580 And there's this UK tradition of the votes being brought to one central building.
00:31:06.680 All the candidates coming to the central building,
00:31:09.420 like they may have their parties elsewhere,
00:31:11.280 but they all come together.
00:31:12.920 It's a really lovely tradition.
00:31:16.680 The votes are counted so meticulously.
00:31:19.100 I don't think we had the result till 4 a.m.
00:31:21.660 I'd never seen anything like it.
00:31:23.500 I really enjoyed it.
00:31:24.320 I was so tired.
00:31:26.080 And so what do you do when you're waiting for eight hours
00:31:28.680 for the votes to be counted?
00:31:30.500 Well, you chat.
00:31:31.840 And here's the funny thing, Peter.
00:31:34.360 I'm an anonymous foreigner in Clacton.
00:31:36.880 Like who would possibly know me?
00:31:38.840 A ton of people did
00:31:39.940 because Tommy Robinson had just visited Canada
00:31:42.200 and he was arrested in Canada.
00:31:44.240 We got him out without any charges or any conditions.
00:31:47.200 So all these people in Clacton recognize me,
00:31:52.000 which tells me,
00:31:53.080 and they asked me about Tommy Robinson,
00:31:55.120 which tells me they follow him pretty closely.
00:31:57.360 Like if you are in Clacton-on-the-Sea,
00:31:59.860 which is this little town in the UK,
00:32:02.960 it's not a big place,
00:32:03.980 and you know who Ezra Levant is,
00:32:05.780 it's not because I have a connection to Clacton.
00:32:07.940 And it's because you're watching Tommy Robinson.
00:32:10.160 The overlap between Tommy supporters
00:32:13.080 and Nigel supporters is so much.
00:32:16.200 And Nigel Farage doesn't have to emphasize that
00:32:19.260 or revel in it,
00:32:20.540 but by gosh,
00:32:21.440 it's stupid for him to be poking and insulting Tommy.
00:32:26.540 Here's another MP for Reform UK,
00:32:30.340 Richard Tice,
00:32:31.240 using that phrase,
00:32:32.240 that lot.
00:32:32.980 Here's a quick look at it.
00:32:34.340 There's no need to do that.
00:32:36.620 If you're the party of the working man,
00:32:38.600 don't get a sneering condescension.
00:32:40.980 Here, take a look at this.
00:32:42.060 Tommy Robinson,
00:32:43.100 people have been protesting in his name.
00:32:44.860 What do you make of Tommy Robinson?
00:32:46.080 Is he a good guy in your eyes?
00:32:47.620 No.
00:32:48.340 All of that lot,
00:32:49.420 we have nothing to do with them.
00:32:50.380 Even the protesters who have got banners up
00:32:52.640 saying two-tier care,
00:32:54.220 you agree with them on the policing and justice thing?
00:32:56.000 We agree with ourselves.
00:32:57.760 I'm not aligning ourselves
00:32:58.960 with Tommy Robinson's lot
00:33:01.420 in any shape or form.
00:33:02.920 Anyhow,
00:33:03.260 I hate the fact
00:33:04.200 that in order to suck up
00:33:07.080 to the powerful people,
00:33:11.080 they're punching down.
00:33:12.760 I just hate that,
00:33:14.060 Peter.
00:33:15.380 I agree.
00:33:16.660 And look,
00:33:17.760 I think from Canadian politics,
00:33:19.340 every politician should do an interview
00:33:21.000 eating an apple.
00:33:21.840 To me,
00:33:22.200 that's Pierre's advice to everyone.
00:33:24.680 But it's true
00:33:26.720 that Nigel has kind of said
00:33:28.380 it's him or me.
00:33:30.460 And it doesn't need to be.
00:33:31.760 There are two very different individuals
00:33:33.880 in very different fights.
00:33:35.440 Tommy does not lead a political party.
00:33:38.300 He's never asked to join reform.
00:33:40.400 He asked to join UKIP
00:33:41.440 and I was very much part of those conversations
00:33:43.480 back in 2019
00:33:44.520 when he was campaign manager
00:33:45.960 of Tommy joining UKIP
00:33:47.680 to run in the European elections.
00:33:49.520 But it's a different situation at the moment.
00:33:52.020 Tommy has never requested to join reform.
00:33:54.420 He has called on his supporters
00:33:56.360 to back reform
00:33:57.360 many, many times.
00:34:00.040 And if you're the leader of reform,
00:34:01.680 you shouldn't really attack
00:34:02.880 probably one of the most...
00:34:04.760 Nigel and Tommy,
00:34:06.020 there aren't really any other individuals
00:34:08.380 of a higher profile
00:34:10.060 politically campaign-wise
00:34:11.660 than those two individuals.
00:34:13.860 And I've kind of been with them both
00:34:15.740 at different times
00:34:16.640 and you get them mobbed
00:34:18.280 for people wanting selfies
00:34:19.700 because they're regarded as heroes.
00:34:21.920 It doesn't have to be
00:34:23.480 you either choose him or me.
00:34:25.740 It can be we're very different people.
00:34:28.020 Tommy is doing something.
00:34:29.420 I'm doing something
00:34:30.300 as Nigel's a political figure.
00:34:32.260 And we are quite different.
00:34:34.600 But I certainly see Tommy
00:34:36.220 as an absolute hero.
00:34:38.100 I'm visiting him in prison next week.
00:34:39.980 And I've known him for 15 years.
00:34:43.740 I've known Nigel much less.
00:34:45.540 I watch him from afar.
00:34:46.860 I don't know him personally.
00:34:48.760 But there is no need
00:34:51.000 to have this fight.
00:34:52.920 And that's why I'm confused
00:34:54.540 at why Nigel
00:34:55.320 has gone down this route.
00:34:58.560 And when you compare
00:34:59.640 Nigel or political figures
00:35:01.280 to someone like
00:35:02.100 President Trump,
00:35:03.400 and Trump speaks his mind,
00:35:04.600 he does what he thinks,
00:35:05.380 he doesn't need an opinion poll.
00:35:06.580 I think reformer
00:35:07.740 may be a little bit different.
00:35:09.420 They're maybe more concerned
00:35:11.180 of what the media may say
00:35:12.920 and therefore check
00:35:14.500 what they may say
00:35:15.500 with a focus group
00:35:16.460 to see if it will fit or not.
00:35:18.560 I want a President Trump style leader
00:35:20.660 who just says what he thinks
00:35:22.700 and let's see what happens.
00:35:25.240 Or what Elon Musk has been doing.
00:35:27.540 Actually, he says what he thinks
00:35:29.320 and then you get a response.
00:35:30.960 That to me is a better,
00:35:32.060 a leader who leads by conviction
00:35:34.300 and not by consensus.
00:35:36.260 And I'm tired of that
00:35:37.060 consensus politics
00:35:38.060 that we have had in the UK.
00:35:39.820 And reformer doing
00:35:40.820 very well politically.
00:35:42.860 The so-called Conservative Party
00:35:44.740 led by Kimmy Bednock,
00:35:46.220 we'll see how that performs.
00:35:47.880 They are not doing well
00:35:48.940 at all in the polls.
00:35:49.920 Reform under Nigel Fraser
00:35:51.180 doing exceptionally well.
00:35:52.300 But I think they could do
00:35:53.120 so much better
00:35:54.860 if they understood
00:35:56.000 the threat of Islam
00:35:57.600 and they understood
00:35:58.960 that people like Tommy
00:35:59.840 are not actually a threat
00:36:01.060 and they can embrace them
00:36:02.380 without making them part
00:36:03.860 of the party.
00:36:04.980 That's what I would say
00:36:05.980 to his PR team
00:36:06.980 and I don't know why
00:36:08.040 they haven't embraced that
00:36:09.000 or understood that yet.
00:36:11.000 Winston Marshall
00:36:11.940 is a former musician
00:36:13.760 who was cancelled
00:36:14.820 for having politically
00:36:16.440 incorrect views
00:36:17.140 and he's become a bit
00:36:17.880 of a political pundit
00:36:19.180 and organiser.
00:36:19.940 Seems like a bright young man.
00:36:21.380 He recently had a sit-down
00:36:23.020 with Nigel Farage
00:36:23.800 and they talked about Islam.
00:36:26.320 And people say
00:36:28.420 it's been taken out of context.
00:36:29.620 I don't know if it has.
00:36:30.400 Here's a clip of Nigel Farage
00:36:32.920 saying that Islam is growing
00:36:36.180 75% every 10 years
00:36:39.800 I think was his stat.
00:36:41.280 And so UKIP must accommodate it.
00:36:44.700 Here, tell me what you think
00:36:45.720 of this clip.
00:36:48.940 Is this the right view?
00:36:50.720 This feels a little fatalistic
00:36:52.240 and it feels like it's...
00:36:54.920 And Farage has said
00:36:56.100 he's against mass deportations
00:36:58.440 which I think is essential
00:37:00.560 to fixing some of the problems
00:37:03.100 with illegal immigration
00:37:04.180 and criminal immigration.
00:37:05.900 Here, let's play a clip
00:37:07.140 of Nigel Farage
00:37:08.700 being interviewed
00:37:09.440 by Winston Marshall.
00:37:10.840 But the nub of it is
00:37:11.880 we have a Muslim population
00:37:14.480 in Britain growing
00:37:15.480 by about 75%
00:37:18.360 every 10 years.
00:37:20.020 Right?
00:37:20.320 That's just where we are.
00:37:21.220 If we politically
00:37:24.920 alienate
00:37:26.780 the whole of Islam
00:37:28.560 we will lose.
00:37:30.620 We'll lose.
00:37:31.520 So how does one include them?
00:37:32.700 We will lose.
00:37:33.640 By 2050
00:37:34.480 goodness knows what
00:37:37.020 kind of a terrible state
00:37:38.300 we're going to be in.
00:37:38.960 Well, what does that mean?
00:37:40.140 And by the way
00:37:41.020 I don't want to be racist
00:37:42.540 and I don't want to be
00:37:43.580 I don't want to prejudge people
00:37:45.280 but I want to stop
00:37:46.500 mass immigration in Canada.
00:37:47.900 I want to deport people
00:37:49.580 who bring violence
00:37:51.260 or criminality with them
00:37:52.400 deport people
00:37:53.100 who are here illegally
00:37:54.100 and frankly
00:37:55.100 if someone
00:37:55.660 supports terrorism
00:37:58.940 I think they should be
00:37:59.920 stripped of their
00:38:00.960 citizenship
00:38:02.800 and deported
00:38:03.460 if they're dual citizen.
00:38:04.360 I don't think
00:38:04.680 these are radical thoughts.
00:38:07.100 Mass deportations
00:38:08.100 I think are about to start
00:38:09.160 on January 20th
00:38:10.420 if you believe
00:38:11.020 Trump's new
00:38:12.980 borders are.
00:38:14.980 I believe them.
00:38:15.800 Why is
00:38:17.720 is this another case
00:38:18.800 of Nigel
00:38:19.340 just not wanting
00:38:20.240 to rock the boat
00:38:20.960 and worried about
00:38:22.400 what the cool kids
00:38:23.160 have to say?
00:38:24.720 I watch an interview
00:38:26.400 and I was so confused.
00:38:27.880 One that he doesn't see
00:38:29.120 necessarily
00:38:30.640 that Islam
00:38:31.200 as a clash
00:38:31.840 with the West.
00:38:33.320 Two that
00:38:33.820 he doesn't necessarily
00:38:35.620 say that we need
00:38:36.540 to embrace Islam
00:38:38.800 but he seems to say
00:38:40.240 you know
00:38:40.640 well they're going faster.
00:38:41.900 I think it was
00:38:42.100 Lord Pearson
00:38:42.700 had asked the government
00:38:43.360 a question
00:38:43.860 on demographics
00:38:44.680 and the Islamic
00:38:45.960 population
00:38:46.520 over 15 years
00:38:47.480 grew at 110%
00:38:48.920 compared to the UK
00:38:50.320 at 10.7
00:38:51.680 so 10 times.
00:38:53.840 You don't
00:38:54.420 accommodate
00:38:55.000 a grouping
00:38:56.100 that fails to integrate
00:38:57.440 and has a completely
00:38:58.300 separate idea
00:38:59.400 of how
00:39:00.620 women are treated
00:39:01.700 children are treated
00:39:02.520 and those
00:39:02.960 outside their grouping
00:39:04.100 and demand
00:39:04.780 their own legal system
00:39:05.840 and food system
00:39:06.680 and their own way of life.
00:39:08.640 That's not
00:39:09.560 how you integrate.
00:39:10.960 In the UK
00:39:11.320 we've always integrated
00:39:12.760 where waves of immigrants
00:39:14.060 have come over
00:39:14.680 that we've always
00:39:16.100 had integration
00:39:17.200 and yet
00:39:18.300 now with Islam
00:39:19.540 we seem to fail
00:39:20.260 to have it
00:39:20.720 and that's been
00:39:21.180 mentioned by many
00:39:22.060 commentators.
00:39:23.460 Nigel doesn't seem
00:39:24.160 to see that
00:39:24.700 and he seems
00:39:25.160 to be concerned
00:39:25.920 and in one way
00:39:27.020 understand
00:39:27.460 if you do not
00:39:28.580 have a strong
00:39:29.940 understanding
00:39:30.480 of what it means
00:39:31.020 to be British
00:39:31.760 and maybe
00:39:32.680 because Nigel
00:39:33.600 doesn't come
00:39:34.160 from a Christian
00:39:35.080 perspective
00:39:35.600 maybe that's
00:39:37.020 what is missing
00:39:37.700 there
00:39:37.960 that kind of
00:39:38.600 anchor
00:39:39.000 to your
00:39:40.000 society
00:39:40.820 to your culture
00:39:42.300 to what makes
00:39:43.200 you a nation
00:39:43.800 then of course
00:39:45.060 you will think
00:39:45.840 we need to be nice
00:39:46.720 to these people
00:39:47.220 coming over.
00:39:48.300 You can be nice
00:39:49.000 to them
00:39:49.320 but you don't have
00:39:50.200 to acquiesce
00:39:51.020 to them
00:39:51.360 and I don't know
00:39:52.160 why reform
00:39:52.840 want to acquiesce
00:39:54.720 and mass deportation
00:39:56.080 I'm looking forward
00:39:56.880 to the mass deportations
00:39:58.160 in the US
00:39:58.800 with the new borders
00:40:00.740 bring it on
00:40:01.880 AFD
00:40:03.020 in Germany
00:40:03.800 Alternative
00:40:04.260 for Deutschland
00:40:04.580 the German government
00:40:05.420 have collapsed
00:40:05.920 they're having
00:40:06.340 elections in a month
00:40:07.420 they talk about
00:40:08.640 mass deportations
00:40:09.760 a number of parties
00:40:11.160 across here
00:40:11.620 the Swedish Democrats
00:40:12.380 have talked about
00:40:13.060 mass deportations
00:40:14.140 let's see about
00:40:15.180 the Freedom Party
00:40:15.900 in Austria
00:40:16.400 and they've been
00:40:16.880 invited to form
00:40:17.600 a government
00:40:18.100 this is what
00:40:19.260 you need to do
00:40:19.720 a few people
00:40:20.340 in your country
00:40:21.000 if you've got
00:40:22.260 and our prisons
00:40:22.960 in the UK
00:40:23.380 are full of
00:40:23.980 non-Brit
00:40:24.560 maybe 30%
00:40:25.680 non-Brit
00:40:26.240 well if you can
00:40:27.520 send them back
00:40:28.080 to their country
00:40:28.620 that makes sense
00:40:29.340 because you don't
00:40:29.640 have to pay for them
00:40:30.640 to stay in a prison
00:40:31.580 for years
00:40:32.140 all the grooming gang
00:40:33.780 the mass rapists
00:40:34.740 we should deport them
00:40:36.080 but today
00:40:36.980 in the Daily Mail
00:40:37.940 it came over
00:40:38.560 that one of the
00:40:39.000 huge ringleaders
00:40:39.780 despite the government
00:40:40.660 promising to deport him
00:40:41.960 has not been deported
00:40:43.200 years later
00:40:43.980 why shouldn't we
00:40:45.260 send people back
00:40:46.200 who break the laws
00:40:47.220 in this country
00:40:47.820 why should taxpayers
00:40:49.300 have to pay
00:40:50.100 years worth
00:40:50.980 of jail time
00:40:52.360 for these individuals
00:40:53.480 at tens of thousands
00:40:54.540 of pounds a year
00:40:55.380 whenever you can
00:40:56.300 stick them on
00:40:56.960 an easy jet flight
00:40:58.220 for 100 quid
00:40:59.100 send them back home
00:41:00.300 they can serve
00:41:01.180 their time
00:41:01.640 in that country
00:41:02.280 that has to be
00:41:03.540 the agreement
00:41:04.220 within Europe
00:41:05.040 surely
00:41:05.640 that has to be
00:41:06.280 the agreement
00:41:06.640 between nation states
00:41:07.660 and for Nigel
00:41:08.800 not to say
00:41:09.400 we need to deport
00:41:10.180 these people
00:41:10.860 what he wants us
00:41:12.340 to actually then
00:41:13.180 pay for them
00:41:14.020 is he going to raise
00:41:14.740 taxes to pay
00:41:15.540 for these people
00:41:16.200 it does not make sense
00:41:18.440 and I don't know
00:41:18.940 whether he is afraid
00:41:19.880 of a backlash
00:41:20.780 from the mainstream media
00:41:22.040 but again
00:41:22.940 I want a leader
00:41:23.720 who does
00:41:24.960 what they believe
00:41:26.220 is right
00:41:26.920 and lead
00:41:27.660 and on this case
00:41:29.120 on immigration
00:41:30.280 many other cases
00:41:31.420 Nigel has led well
00:41:32.620 but on this case
00:41:33.700 of deportation
00:41:34.880 he is not leading
00:41:36.060 yeah
00:41:37.040 he was so sure
00:41:38.140 of himself
00:41:38.480 with Brexit
00:41:39.020 and on the debanking
00:41:40.320 and I want that
00:41:41.680 Nigel Farage back
00:41:42.620 hey we've been talking
00:41:43.640 about Nigel Farage
00:41:44.560 and with good reason
00:41:46.060 I think he
00:41:46.680 I think he's a hero
00:41:47.820 I think he's done more
00:41:49.360 for the UK
00:41:49.920 in the last generation
00:41:51.780 than anyone else
00:41:53.300 I can think of
00:41:54.100 I think Tommy Robinson
00:41:57.160 is also a hero as well
00:41:58.500 a flawed hero
00:41:59.920 an anti-hero
00:42:01.120 perhaps as they say
00:42:02.340 but I believe
00:42:04.420 that he has
00:42:05.220 you know
00:42:06.140 I think it was
00:42:06.840 George Bernard Shaw
00:42:07.560 who said
00:42:08.200 reasonable people
00:42:09.940 conform to the world
00:42:10.880 unreasonable people
00:42:11.980 make the world
00:42:12.480 conform to them
00:42:13.220 therefore all progress
00:42:14.720 defends on unreasonable people
00:42:16.240 Tommy Robinson
00:42:16.980 is unreasonable
00:42:18.500 I was there in court
00:42:20.060 when he was sentenced
00:42:20.880 the judge said
00:42:22.380 will you take this video
00:42:23.700 down off Twitter
00:42:24.580 if you do
00:42:25.500 I'll knock several months
00:42:26.760 off your prison sentence
00:42:28.380 and he said
00:42:29.980 no
00:42:30.260 he didn't say it
00:42:30.960 he just declined
00:42:32.100 to do so
00:42:32.680 I mean Peter
00:42:33.620 if someone said to you
00:42:35.980 you have a tweet
00:42:36.900 up
00:42:37.380 that's been seen
00:42:38.960 50 or 60 million times
00:42:40.720 take it down now
00:42:42.180 and you'll
00:42:42.800 be spared
00:42:43.840 months of prison time
00:42:45.440 I
00:42:46.740 I gotta
00:42:47.220 think
00:42:47.760 99.9%
00:42:49.680 of people
00:42:50.180 would say
00:42:50.600 55 million people
00:42:52.100 have seen this tweet
00:42:52.820 I can declare victory
00:42:53.860 I'm gonna go home
00:42:54.740 he did not
00:42:56.060 and
00:42:57.180 you know
00:42:57.800 he would say
00:42:58.260 he's been vindicated
00:42:59.140 that tweet
00:42:59.660 that video
00:43:00.340 has now been seen
00:43:01.060 about 150 million times
00:43:03.200 and it's gotten
00:43:04.200 a lot of news
00:43:04.840 but
00:43:05.080 that is not
00:43:06.380 someone who's acting
00:43:07.700 in their rational
00:43:08.440 self-interest
00:43:09.200 to make the pain
00:43:10.580 go away
00:43:10.940 that's why the British
00:43:11.620 government is having
00:43:12.160 so much trouble
00:43:12.700 dealing with them
00:43:13.320 because they don't
00:43:14.180 have tools
00:43:14.800 to deal with someone
00:43:15.780 who is in a way
00:43:17.100 a conscientious objector
00:43:18.300 and doesn't care
00:43:18.700 what they do to him
00:43:19.360 that's what's so
00:43:20.260 astonishing
00:43:20.800 about Tommy Robinson
00:43:21.740 despite all the
00:43:23.600 accusations against him
00:43:24.820 there's an innate
00:43:26.340 selflessness there
00:43:27.640 who amongst us
00:43:28.740 would agree to
00:43:29.560 spend that much time
00:43:31.380 in solitary confinement
00:43:32.500 on a point of principle
00:43:33.800 I don't think
00:43:36.000 one in a million would
00:43:37.420 hey
00:43:37.800 let me show you
00:43:38.720 one last video
00:43:39.680 because we've been
00:43:41.240 talking about how
00:43:42.340 Nigel Farage
00:43:43.640 and Kemi Badenoch
00:43:44.600 the conservative leader
00:43:45.500 she's just as
00:43:46.320 scared of Tommy Robinson
00:43:47.720 he probably even more so
00:43:49.060 which is odd
00:43:51.080 because she
00:43:51.660 she doesn't have to be
00:43:52.880 because no one's
00:43:53.300 going to accuse her
00:43:54.060 of racism
00:43:54.520 she's a black woman
00:43:55.380 but the language
00:43:59.000 that Nigel Farage
00:44:00.120 is using
00:44:00.720 that lot
00:44:01.920 here's Keir Starmer
00:44:04.800 the labor prime minister
00:44:06.340 just yesterday
00:44:07.620 or the day before
00:44:08.440 denouncing
00:44:11.040 Elon Musk
00:44:12.160 Tommy Robinson
00:44:13.300 and anyone who's
00:44:14.760 worried about
00:44:15.380 these rape gangs
00:44:16.300 denouncing them
00:44:17.700 as far right
00:44:19.300 including
00:44:20.000 completely
00:44:21.160 apolitical
00:44:22.400 victims
00:44:23.560 and families
00:44:24.460 of victims
00:44:25.000 take a look
00:44:25.700 take a look at
00:44:25.840 Keir Starmer
00:44:26.500 basically doing
00:44:29.020 what those victims
00:44:30.820 in the
00:44:31.680 commission of inquiry
00:44:33.500 said
00:44:34.000 I'm worried about
00:44:35.420 being denounced
00:44:36.180 as racist
00:44:37.300 so I won't speak up
00:44:38.620 so what does
00:44:39.220 Keir Starmer do?
00:44:40.780 denounce them
00:44:41.420 as racist
00:44:41.960 when
00:44:42.380 politicians
00:44:44.080 and I mean
00:44:45.120 politicians
00:44:45.700 who sat in government
00:44:47.760 for many years
00:44:48.580 are casual
00:44:49.720 about honesty
00:44:51.920 decency
00:44:52.660 truth
00:44:53.320 and the rule
00:44:53.880 of law
00:44:54.360 calling for inquiries
00:44:57.080 because they want
00:44:57.700 to jump on a bandwagon
00:44:59.260 of the far right
00:45:00.680 then that affects
00:45:02.760 politics
00:45:03.420 because
00:45:04.540 a robust debate
00:45:06.260 can only be based
00:45:07.180 on the true facts
00:45:08.500 I think that's
00:45:09.320 outrageous
00:45:09.840 to say that
00:45:11.000 anyone
00:45:11.460 who's concerned
00:45:13.080 about rape gangs
00:45:13.840 is racist
00:45:14.740 that's essentially
00:45:15.360 what far right
00:45:16.160 means in the UK
00:45:16.880 but really
00:45:18.380 that's not
00:45:18.960 that different
00:45:19.880 in language
00:45:20.420 from what
00:45:21.080 Nigel Farage
00:45:21.740 was saying
00:45:22.120 what do you think?
00:45:23.860 I agree
00:45:24.820 if the term
00:45:26.680 far right
00:45:27.380 is defined
00:45:28.100 by whether
00:45:28.760 or not
00:45:29.260 you say
00:45:29.760 children should
00:45:30.320 be protected
00:45:31.220 from being
00:45:32.540 sexually abused
00:45:33.400 then I guess
00:45:34.480 we're all far right
00:45:35.480 if that's the definition
00:45:36.500 and this is
00:45:37.800 just like the term
00:45:38.580 racism
00:45:39.160 is a term
00:45:40.160 that is branded
00:45:41.020 whenever you're
00:45:42.160 losing the argument
00:45:43.320 whenever you want
00:45:44.180 to shut down
00:45:45.040 debate
00:45:45.460 and that's been
00:45:46.220 used by the media
00:45:47.120 it's been used
00:45:47.600 by politicians
00:45:48.420 and this is used
00:45:50.640 by Keir Stormer
00:45:51.660 today
00:45:52.420 to shut down
00:45:53.360 the conversation
00:45:54.400 to call those
00:45:55.400 who are
00:45:56.320 calling
00:45:57.060 for a full-on
00:45:58.720 inquiry
00:45:59.360 far right
00:46:00.400 now
00:46:00.760 the issue
00:46:01.960 is we've never
00:46:02.600 had a national
00:46:03.740 inquiry
00:46:04.280 on grooming gangs
00:46:05.540 so we have had
00:46:07.100 an independent
00:46:07.920 inquiry
00:46:09.100 into
00:46:10.020 child sexual
00:46:11.160 abuse
00:46:11.780 that was a
00:46:12.600 seven-year inquiry
00:46:13.480 costing close
00:46:14.300 to 200 million
00:46:15.220 200 million
00:46:16.440 the only people
00:46:17.760 that benefited
00:46:18.300 were the lawyers
00:46:19.080 who pocketed
00:46:19.820 all the money
00:46:20.500 so these
00:46:21.900 inquiries
00:46:23.100 only benefit
00:46:24.180 the legal profession
00:46:25.080 they don't get
00:46:25.620 justice
00:46:26.100 that was done
00:46:27.240 for seven years
00:46:29.780 originally put in
00:46:30.820 by Theresa May
00:46:31.740 I think in
00:46:32.160 2015
00:46:33.460 but that was
00:46:34.380 only done
00:46:35.040 because of
00:46:35.480 Jimmy Savile
00:46:36.120 that was not done
00:46:37.200 because of
00:46:37.740 grooming gangs
00:46:38.360 and there's only
00:46:38.840 a subsection
00:46:39.740 in that
00:46:40.860 200 million
00:46:42.120 pound inquiry
00:46:43.380 into grooming
00:46:44.420 gangs
00:46:44.900 so
00:46:45.860 people are
00:46:47.260 right to call
00:46:48.320 for an inquiry
00:46:49.420 into this
00:46:50.140 specific area
00:46:51.200 and why this
00:46:52.320 specific area
00:46:53.100 well this area
00:46:53.900 is not being
00:46:54.340 talked about
00:46:54.860 this area
00:46:55.280 is being
00:46:55.540 ignored
00:46:55.880 this area
00:46:56.520 are media
00:46:57.580 and politicians
00:46:58.360 and local
00:46:58.940 authority
00:46:59.240 run away from
00:47:00.060 because they're
00:47:00.640 afraid
00:47:00.940 so you have
00:47:02.260 to focus
00:47:02.720 on what
00:47:03.420 others are
00:47:03.880 not talking
00:47:04.420 about
00:47:04.780 if there are
00:47:05.660 other areas
00:47:07.240 of abuse
00:47:07.980 then if they're
00:47:09.280 being addressed
00:47:09.820 and focused on
00:47:10.580 then that is
00:47:11.080 good
00:47:11.440 and therefore
00:47:11.980 you'll get
00:47:12.380 justice
00:47:12.720 in those
00:47:13.080 areas
00:47:13.400 but in this
00:47:13.940 area
00:47:14.260 the focus
00:47:15.120 is not
00:47:15.560 on this
00:47:16.020 and justice
00:47:16.780 has not
00:47:17.160 been done
00:47:17.640 and not
00:47:18.460 one single
00:47:19.180 girl
00:47:19.460 we're involved
00:47:20.200 in a legal
00:47:22.280 battle
00:47:22.700 we're four
00:47:23.420 years in the
00:47:23.900 legal battle
00:47:24.500 of getting
00:47:25.460 one of the
00:47:26.120 survivors
00:47:26.680 legal recompense
00:47:28.840 she is suing
00:47:29.880 her perpetrator
00:47:30.780 and getting
00:47:31.460 money
00:47:31.820 never done
00:47:32.660 before
00:47:33.060 no British
00:47:34.200 government
00:47:34.600 conservatives
00:47:35.180 or labour
00:47:35.660 have never
00:47:36.240 said
00:47:36.600 you know
00:47:36.980 if an
00:47:37.960 individual
00:47:38.380 is sent
00:47:38.880 away
00:47:39.300 for
00:47:40.140 abusing
00:47:40.960 these
00:47:41.240 girls
00:47:41.600 for
00:47:42.240 child
00:47:43.400 rape
00:47:43.700 then
00:47:43.980 actually
00:47:44.460 they
00:47:45.140 must
00:47:45.580 pay
00:47:45.960 recompense
00:47:46.680 to the
00:47:47.020 girls
00:47:47.320 that would
00:47:47.980 make sense
00:47:48.460 but these
00:47:48.820 girls are
00:47:49.260 dragged through
00:47:49.820 the courts
00:47:50.260 again
00:47:50.900 have to
00:47:51.740 pay
00:47:52.060 tens of
00:47:53.700 thousands
00:47:54.100 tens of
00:47:54.660 thousands
00:47:55.000 30,000
00:47:56.220 plus
00:47:56.660 if they
00:47:57.360 want to
00:47:57.840 fight
00:47:58.140 against
00:47:58.600 their
00:47:58.960 perpetrator
00:48:00.160 for money
00:48:00.980 back
00:48:01.300 that should
00:48:01.960 not be
00:48:02.240 the case
00:48:02.540 there's so
00:48:03.080 many things
00:48:03.720 that could
00:48:04.060 be done
00:48:04.540 to make
00:48:05.000 this
00:48:05.320 a fair
00:48:06.080 system
00:48:06.960 for the
00:48:07.320 girls
00:48:07.620 you cannot
00:48:08.880 reclaim
00:48:09.480 their
00:48:09.720 childhood
00:48:10.100 no
00:48:10.600 but you
00:48:11.320 can say
00:48:12.020 actually
00:48:12.400 we will
00:48:12.780 give you
00:48:13.140 financial
00:48:13.660 justice
00:48:14.540 and that's
00:48:15.360 what should
00:48:15.580 happen
00:48:15.960 these
00:48:16.440 individuals
00:48:16.920 should stay
00:48:17.580 in jail
00:48:17.900 for life
00:48:18.580 they should
00:48:19.140 never be
00:48:19.620 released
00:48:20.080 they should
00:48:20.820 have all
00:48:21.400 their assets
00:48:21.860 taken off
00:48:22.500 them
00:48:22.680 and those
00:48:23.340 assets
00:48:23.660 should be
00:48:24.000 given
00:48:24.260 to these
00:48:24.840 girls
00:48:25.220 that's
00:48:25.900 what should
00:48:26.160 happen
00:48:26.520 but hey
00:48:27.240 if you
00:48:27.760 say that
00:48:28.320 you're
00:48:28.740 far right
00:48:29.320 if you're
00:48:29.640 on the
00:48:30.080 side
00:48:30.700 of those
00:48:31.560 who are
00:48:31.780 abused
00:48:32.220 those who
00:48:32.600 are disadvantaged
00:48:33.240 those who
00:48:33.740 are
00:48:33.880 downtrodden
00:48:34.520 in society
00:48:35.300 surely
00:48:36.180 that's
00:48:36.600 what we
00:48:36.800 should
00:48:36.940 be doing
00:48:37.340 and that's
00:48:37.780 what you
00:48:38.280 have highlighted
00:48:39.060 Ezra
00:48:39.400 that's
00:48:39.700 what we've
00:48:39.960 tried to
00:48:40.260 highlight
00:48:40.540 in Hearts
00:48:40.940 of Oak
00:48:41.160 that's
00:48:41.380 what Lord
00:48:41.700 Pearson
00:48:42.080 that's
00:48:42.780 what Tommy
00:48:43.180 has highlighted
00:48:43.800 and there
00:48:45.060 are a few
00:48:45.380 loud voices
00:48:46.060 that have
00:48:46.560 championed
00:48:47.600 these girls
00:48:48.480 and have
00:48:49.100 highlighted
00:48:49.460 the injustice
00:48:50.120 and I think
00:48:51.200 with Elon Musk
00:48:51.860 shining light
00:48:52.380 on this
00:48:52.720 we will
00:48:53.200 get justice
00:48:53.960 yeah
00:48:54.400 well that's
00:48:55.140 the point
00:48:55.300 about Elon
00:48:55.740 Musk
00:48:56.080 I mean
00:48:56.360 obviously
00:48:56.660 he's the
00:48:56.960 world's
00:48:57.320 richest man
00:48:57.880 I think
00:48:58.160 he's the
00:48:58.420 world's
00:48:58.660 most
00:48:58.900 interesting
00:48:59.360 man
00:48:59.680 he's the
00:49:00.500 world's
00:49:00.820 most followed
00:49:04.520 and as far
00:49:05.460 as I know
00:49:05.860 he has
00:49:06.200 only used
00:49:06.860 in this
00:49:07.240 UK case
00:49:08.000 the power
00:49:08.700 of his
00:49:08.940 voice
00:49:09.200 in America
00:49:09.880 he spent
00:49:10.920 a lot
00:49:11.200 of money
00:49:11.600 also
00:49:12.280 and he
00:49:13.600 campaigned
00:49:14.480 personally
00:49:15.660 with Donald
00:49:16.320 Trump
00:49:16.520 actually
00:49:16.800 every day
00:49:17.340 he campaigned
00:49:17.920 in Pennsylvania
00:49:18.320 but so far
00:49:20.540 in the UK
00:49:21.040 he's really
00:49:21.600 just used
00:49:22.200 the power
00:49:22.720 of his
00:49:23.080 voice
00:49:23.560 which is
00:49:24.420 fascinating
00:49:24.860 I mean
00:49:25.140 technically
00:49:25.520 anyone
00:49:25.880 could do
00:49:26.340 it
00:49:26.580 Kim Kardashian
00:49:27.840 has a lot
00:49:28.420 of followers
00:49:28.820 on Twitter
00:49:29.240 too
00:49:29.540 if she chose
00:49:30.580 to weigh in
00:49:31.060 I'm sure
00:49:31.340 that would
00:49:31.620 make news
00:49:32.080 but I think
00:49:32.760 one of the
00:49:33.040 reasons
00:49:33.280 why Elon
00:49:33.760 Musk's
00:49:34.520 comments
00:49:34.960 pack an
00:49:35.480 extra
00:49:35.900 wallop
00:49:36.440 is because
00:49:37.200 people know
00:49:37.720 he has been
00:49:38.220 named
00:49:38.760 by Donald
00:49:39.680 Trump
00:49:39.880 as an
00:49:40.160 incoming
00:49:40.580 advisor
00:49:41.360 on how
00:49:41.840 to shrink
00:49:43.340 government
00:49:43.900 waste
00:49:44.500 and so
00:49:46.520 I think
00:49:47.040 part of
00:49:47.940 it is
00:49:48.440 Brits
00:49:49.580 and I
00:49:50.340 mean
00:49:50.440 Emmanuel
00:49:50.940 Macron
00:49:51.340 yesterday
00:49:51.720 was denouncing
00:49:52.680 Elon Musk
00:49:53.300 as a meddler
00:49:53.900 in European
00:49:54.860 affairs
00:49:55.300 I think
00:49:57.320 a lot
00:49:57.740 of European
00:49:58.260 leaders
00:49:59.020 especially
00:49:59.420 on the
00:49:59.800 left
00:50:00.020 are worried
00:50:00.740 that this
00:50:01.800 isn't just
00:50:02.380 Elon Musk
00:50:03.180 Donald
00:50:03.880 Trump
00:50:04.240 may share
00:50:04.880 some of
00:50:05.240 these views
00:50:05.680 and may
00:50:06.040 try something
00:50:06.840 dramatic
00:50:07.760 I mean
00:50:08.080 Elon Musk
00:50:08.600 has called
00:50:09.080 for the
00:50:10.560 king of
00:50:11.020 England
00:50:11.320 to dissolve
00:50:13.260 the parliament
00:50:14.980 and I'm not
00:50:16.200 quite sure
00:50:16.780 if it would
00:50:17.660 rise to
00:50:18.100 I mean
00:50:18.340 I think
00:50:18.640 that's
00:50:19.180 technically
00:50:19.660 a power
00:50:20.540 the king
00:50:20.900 has
00:50:21.160 but I
00:50:21.400 don't
00:50:21.500 think
00:50:21.660 he would
00:50:21.860 ever
00:50:22.040 use it
00:50:22.500 six months
00:50:23.760 into a
00:50:24.820 government
00:50:26.140 just because
00:50:26.660 they're having
00:50:27.120 a run
00:50:27.880 of the mill
00:50:28.140 crisis
00:50:28.600 I think
00:50:31.000 people are
00:50:31.760 worried
00:50:32.260 that
00:50:32.560 Donald
00:50:32.900 Trump
00:50:33.300 might
00:50:33.580 get
00:50:33.820 some
00:50:34.040 of
00:50:34.140 this
00:50:34.280 Elon
00:50:34.580 Musk
00:50:34.980 zeal
00:50:35.620 and do
00:50:36.880 something
00:50:37.260 dramatic
00:50:37.780 and with
00:50:39.180 Trump
00:50:39.380 it's hard
00:50:39.680 to tell
00:50:40.100 if he's
00:50:40.940 serious
00:50:41.220 when he
00:50:41.520 says he
00:50:41.780 wants to
00:50:42.100 buy
00:50:42.380 Greenland
00:50:43.080 is he
00:50:43.840 serious
00:50:44.200 I think
00:50:44.480 he is
00:50:44.820 in that
00:50:45.100 case
00:50:45.380 when he
00:50:46.180 wants to
00:50:46.520 annex
00:50:46.840 Canada
00:50:47.300 as the
00:50:47.620 51st
00:50:48.140 state
00:50:48.440 I think
00:50:49.180 he would
00:50:49.580 I don't
00:50:49.820 think
00:50:49.960 that's
00:50:50.180 going to
00:50:50.380 happen
00:50:50.600 but Trump
00:50:51.060 likes
00:50:51.320 to
00:50:51.540 banter
00:50:52.000 I think
00:50:53.220 part of
00:50:53.940 it is
00:50:54.300 the Brits
00:50:54.820 are scared
00:50:55.400 of Trump
00:50:56.000 and Keir
00:50:57.220 Starmer
00:50:57.720 and his
00:50:58.160 foreign
00:50:58.420 secretary
00:50:58.900 David
00:50:59.260 Lammy
00:50:59.540 have both
00:51:00.400 personally
00:51:01.940 insulted
00:51:03.320 Trump
00:51:03.800 in the
00:51:04.080 most
00:51:04.360 outrageous
00:51:04.920 language
00:51:05.380 calling him
00:51:05.860 a neo-Nazi
00:51:06.620 a misogynist
00:51:07.960 so I think
00:51:09.220 they're worried
00:51:11.220 that they're
00:51:11.620 going to get
00:51:12.140 smacked back
00:51:13.300 I don't know
00:51:13.740 it's sort of
00:51:14.180 interesting to
00:51:14.860 see
00:51:15.100 because is
00:51:15.820 Musk
00:51:16.560 acting for
00:51:17.320 himself
00:51:17.800 is he
00:51:18.960 I don't
00:51:20.280 know
00:51:20.820 all of his
00:51:21.700 motivations
00:51:22.340 and I
00:51:23.600 don't know
00:51:24.040 where Trump
00:51:24.960 is on this
00:51:25.500 but I
00:51:26.220 have to
00:51:26.540 tell you
00:51:26.860 it's been
00:51:27.240 fascinating
00:51:27.800 and a
00:51:28.200 pleasure
00:51:28.480 to see
00:51:29.020 a cause
00:51:29.820 that you
00:51:30.200 and I
00:51:30.420 both care
00:51:30.920 about
00:51:31.300 being given
00:51:32.640 such a
00:51:33.680 huge platform
00:51:35.440 last word
00:51:35.960 to you
00:51:36.240 Peter
00:51:36.480 well I
00:51:38.500 don't think
00:51:39.160 there is
00:51:39.440 going to be
00:51:39.740 a Trump
00:51:40.060 tower
00:51:40.280 in Greenland
00:51:40.740 they've got
00:51:41.080 60,000
00:51:41.800 people so
00:51:42.280 I don't
00:51:42.440 think they
00:51:42.740 could fill
00:51:43.100 a Trump
00:51:43.440 tower
00:51:43.720 so that's
00:51:44.180 one thing
00:51:44.700 that's not
00:51:45.120 going to
00:51:45.340 happen
00:51:45.600 but you're
00:51:46.900 right
00:51:47.160 we've
00:51:47.960 there's a
00:51:48.540 lot of
00:51:48.820 talk about
00:51:49.540 billionaires
00:51:50.440 affecting
00:51:51.000 world politics
00:51:51.920 I mean
00:51:52.320 Soros and
00:51:53.800 Gates have
00:51:54.380 never done
00:51:55.000 that have
00:51:55.440 they
00:51:55.660 no we've
00:51:56.460 been critical
00:51:57.080 of that
00:51:57.820 side
00:51:58.260 now I
00:51:59.200 but we've
00:51:59.940 seen the
00:52:00.380 woke pendulum
00:52:01.120 swing so
00:52:02.080 far
00:52:02.660 and to me
00:52:03.680 whenever you
00:52:04.300 talk about
00:52:05.420 the issue of
00:52:05.920 grooming gangs
00:52:06.640 of up to
00:52:07.460 million girls
00:52:08.320 being trafficked
00:52:09.700 sexually trafficked
00:52:11.400 in the UK
00:52:11.980 and that
00:52:12.860 being accepted
00:52:13.500 as completely
00:52:14.120 normal
00:52:14.620 if you're
00:52:15.900 against that
00:52:16.640 you're an
00:52:17.040 extremist
00:52:17.620 you're far
00:52:18.100 right
00:52:18.440 then I
00:52:20.600 want a
00:52:21.020 light to
00:52:21.360 be shown
00:52:21.840 on that
00:52:22.540 injustice
00:52:23.100 and if
00:52:24.000 that means
00:52:24.440 a billionaire
00:52:24.920 affecting UK
00:52:26.600 politics
00:52:27.260 then bring
00:52:28.720 it on
00:52:29.120 I don't know
00:52:29.720 whether that
00:52:30.160 makes me a
00:52:30.980 hypocrite
00:52:31.440 I haven't
00:52:32.420 sat back
00:52:33.000 and looked
00:52:33.360 because we're
00:52:33.760 only seven
00:52:34.320 days into
00:52:34.780 this year
00:52:35.300 so I
00:52:35.980 haven't yet
00:52:36.360 processed
00:52:36.880 what exactly
00:52:38.060 is happening
00:52:38.660 but as
00:52:40.200 someone
00:52:40.880 who has
00:52:42.880 talked about
00:52:43.700 and highlighted
00:52:44.640 this horrendous
00:52:45.880 issue
00:52:46.300 back from
00:52:47.180 when we
00:52:47.460 launched in
00:52:47.880 Horto in
00:52:48.300 2020
00:52:48.820 Laura Pearson
00:52:49.300 will be
00:52:49.500 doing it
00:52:49.760 for longer
00:52:50.220 many others
00:52:50.900 have been
00:52:51.200 doing it
00:52:51.460 for even
00:52:51.680 longer
00:52:52.020 than that
00:52:52.540 we need
00:52:54.160 to get
00:52:54.520 justice
00:52:54.880 for these
00:52:55.300 girls
00:52:55.520 so I'm
00:52:56.020 interested
00:52:56.460 in justice
00:52:57.260 and if
00:52:58.300 Elon Musk
00:52:58.980 speaking
00:52:59.500 brings justice
00:53:00.940 to those
00:53:01.780 girls
00:53:02.180 then I'm
00:53:03.740 extremely
00:53:04.200 happy with
00:53:04.840 that
00:53:05.000 if that
00:53:05.380 makes me
00:53:05.760 a hypocrite
00:53:06.200 then that
00:53:06.480 makes me
00:53:06.800 a hypocrite
00:53:07.360 but I'll
00:53:08.060 want that
00:53:08.720 to be
00:53:09.000 outweighed
00:53:09.700 by the
00:53:10.280 good that
00:53:10.640 it does
00:53:11.100 to get
00:53:11.720 injustice
00:53:12.180 for these
00:53:13.080 girls
00:53:13.420 that have
00:53:14.040 been
00:53:14.180 completely
00:53:14.540 ignored
00:53:15.400 by society
00:53:16.580 and the
00:53:17.180 media
00:53:17.500 so this
00:53:18.860 is what
00:53:19.240 we have
00:53:19.700 hoped for
00:53:20.720 wished for
00:53:21.320 prayed for
00:53:22.120 for many
00:53:22.920 years
00:53:23.400 that someone
00:53:24.580 like Elon
00:53:25.340 Musk would
00:53:25.960 see this
00:53:26.500 issue for
00:53:27.000 what it
00:53:27.400 was as
00:53:27.940 an injustice
00:53:28.500 and highlight
00:53:29.820 this
00:53:30.260 now you
00:53:30.960 see some
00:53:31.380 of his
00:53:31.660 tweets
00:53:32.000 and you
00:53:32.220 think
00:53:32.460 I wouldn't
00:53:33.540 tweet that
00:53:34.120 and you
00:53:34.560 wonder
00:53:34.920 what's
00:53:35.880 happening
00:53:36.220 but at
00:53:37.240 the end
00:53:37.540 of the
00:53:37.780 day
00:53:38.120 the focus
00:53:39.000 is on
00:53:40.000 good
00:53:40.360 the focus
00:53:40.800 is on
00:53:41.180 getting
00:53:41.420 these
00:53:41.720 girls
00:53:42.140 the right
00:53:43.860 for justice
00:53:44.460 so I'll
00:53:45.640 go along
00:53:46.080 with that
00:53:46.560 I don't know
00:53:47.240 why that makes
00:53:47.760 me a hypocrite
00:53:48.380 but hey
00:53:49.260 we'll go along
00:53:50.520 with that
00:53:50.860 I'm enjoying
00:53:51.480 the ride
00:53:52.000 and hey
00:53:52.700 we've got
00:53:53.580 another 51
00:53:54.380 weeks in the
00:53:54.940 year to go
00:53:55.360 so who knows
00:53:55.880 what could
00:53:56.200 happen
00:53:56.460 and Trump
00:53:57.120 hasn't even
00:53:57.580 taken the
00:53:58.060 White House
00:53:58.520 yet
00:53:58.780 he's not
00:53:59.420 in his seat
00:54:00.140 so who knows
00:54:01.080 yeah it's
00:54:01.520 amazing days
00:54:02.140 well Peter
00:54:02.660 great to see you
00:54:03.320 great to catch
00:54:03.880 up give my
00:54:04.460 best to Lord
00:54:05.140 Pearson
00:54:05.520 and we'll
00:54:07.620 keep watching
00:54:08.260 and we'll
00:54:08.700 visit from
00:54:09.160 time to
00:54:09.600 time we've
00:54:10.000 been talking
00:54:10.380 with Peter
00:54:10.740 McIlvenna
00:54:11.260 he's a special
00:54:12.260 assistant to
00:54:12.880 Lord Pearson
00:54:13.520 member of the
00:54:14.340 House of Lords
00:54:14.840 in the UK
00:54:15.280 he's the founder
00:54:15.940 of Hearts of
00:54:16.500 Oak
00:54:16.720 and like me
00:54:17.700 he's a friend
00:54:18.720 of Tommy
00:54:19.160 that's our show
00:54:20.500 for today
00:54:20.940 until next time
00:54:22.280 on behalf of
00:54:23.120 all of us here
00:54:23.720 at Rebel World
00:54:24.560 Headquarters
00:54:25.140 to you at home
00:54:25.760 good night
00:54:26.200 and keep fighting
00:54:27.540 for freedom