Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Everything they said about Russian foreign interference, they've done with China

00:00:00.120 Hello, my friends. It sort of hit me, and maybe it's obvious, and maybe it hit you already, but

00:00:03.820 everything they accuse you of being foreign-funded, foreign-controlled, an agent of Russia,

00:00:11.040 an agent of America, they never meant it. They just meant to preempt you saying it about them

00:00:16.820 where it's actually true. They are enthralled to communist China, and now it's actually proved.

00:00:23.600 I'll take you through the proof, and I'll remind you that they accused you of doing what they

00:00:27.480 themselves were doing. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. It's

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00:00:41.880 by the way, we never will. All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:57.480 Tonight, everything they said about Russia and foreign interference, they themselves have

00:01:06.560 done, but with China. It's March 10th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:11.360 You're ready for freedom! 0.66

00:01:14.220 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.86

00:01:17.380 You know, there's something about the left. Oh, they do it all the time. It's called projection. 0.75

00:01:31.900 They accuse you of doing what they do. Racism. They're the ones whose poster boy in this country

00:01:40.800 dressed up in blackface so many times he can't even remember. How many?

00:01:45.980 They accuse you of being sexist, or the new word, misogynist. But Justin Trudeau is the one who

00:01:52.460 assaulted Rose Knight, a young woman he met in Creston, BC. And when asked about it, he said,

00:01:59.260 well, she just experienced it differently. Remember that atrocious clip?

00:02:04.000 I've been reflecting very carefully on what I remember from that incident almost 20 years ago.

00:02:13.020 And again, I feel I am confident that I did not act inappropriately. But part of this awakening

00:02:23.660 that we're having as a society, a long-awaited realization, is that it's not just one sign,

00:02:34.000 of the story that matters. That the same interactions could be experienced very differently

00:02:40.520 from one person to the next. And I am not going to speak for the woman in question. I would never

00:02:48.560 presume to speak for her. But I know that there is an awful lot of reflection to be had as we move

00:02:56.780 forward as a society on how people perceive different interactions. Like I said, I do not

00:03:04.060 feel that I acted inappropriately in any way. But I respect the fact that someone else might have

00:03:12.120 experienced that differently. And this is part of the reflections that we have to go through.

00:03:16.260 The liberals claim they care about Indigenous issues. But of course, they fired Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:03:23.140 the first Indigenous justice minister, because she dared get in the way of his cronyism. And on Truth

00:03:30.120 and Reconciliation Day, Justin Trudeau hid and sneaked out to go surfing in Tofino and had his office lie,

00:03:39.820 claiming he was in Ottawa the whole time. He did a whole show on that recently.

00:03:43.380 You know, they said that the trucker convoy was foreign funded, by which they meant to say it

00:03:50.960 wasn't representative of actual Canadians. Well, that was repeated everywhere. But when the facts

00:03:57.940 finally came out, when the GoFundMe executives testified, they said, no, no, the vast majority of

00:04:05.900 funds were from Canadians. It was a lie. They said that the truckers were taking orders from foreigners

00:04:13.360 not just money, but orders, including from Vladimir Putin. Remember this disgraceful moment?

00:04:19.860 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with

00:04:26.460 Russia, I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be

00:04:34.260 continuing to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:04:40.480 Obviously a lie. But it took months for the CBC's own ombudsman to admit it was a lie. And by that

00:04:48.820 point, the reporter in question was promoted. You know, Justin Trudeau's man at the University of

00:04:55.940 Calgary, Professor Boucher, published a paper and went on the media and said that Maxime Bernier,

00:05:02.400 the leader of the People's Party, and Rupa Subramania, a columnist for National Post and

00:05:07.520 Rebel News and myself were Russian agents, Russian propagandists. But that's a lie too. The People's 0.82

00:05:15.800 Party of Canada cannot accept any money from any foreigners. Rupa is from India originally, and

00:05:22.800 she's a proud Canadian. And she works for True North as well. And it's all lies about us. I actually

00:05:30.120 checked. On a hunch, I checked. And we have a bit of a database of our supporters. And I did the math.

00:05:37.360 And 0.0026% of our supporters are in Russia, which makes me think our website might actually be banned

00:05:50.180 in Russia because we literally have supporters in countries all over the world in the strangest places.

00:05:56.540 But we have almost zero in Russia. I think we're blocked to have that few. You know, maybe it's

00:06:04.920 because I wrote a book called Groundswell, where I denounced Vladimir Putin and his natural gas

00:06:10.860 monopoly called Gazprom. And I sort of mocked him pretty hard. And then I went on a speaking tour, you

00:06:15.580 might recall. So I actually think that revolutions might be blocked. They always accuse Canadian

00:06:23.880 conservatives of U.S.-style campaigning and being Republicans. I don't know if you remember, but

00:06:30.360 way long ago, Stephen Harper gave a speech to some Americans once, and this became a scandal.

00:06:37.280 Here's the state broadcaster at the time. Harper defends remarks to U.S. conservative movement.

00:06:45.780 Conservative leader Stephen Harper faced questions over past remarks he made to an American

00:06:51.440 conservative movement. Comments, the liberals claim, prove his allegiance to a radical right-wing

00:06:58.740 agenda. Let me read a little bit. The comment is quoted in one of a series of controversial ads

00:07:03.780 the liberals released earlier this week. One quotes a speech Harper made eight years ago to a conservative

00:07:08.780 American think tank. America, and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an

00:07:13.120 inspiration of people in this country and across the world, the ad quotes Harper as saying.

00:07:17.220 Yeah, it is. How is that controversial? That's the best they got. They dug up a speech he gave like

00:07:25.000 eight years earlier. But by contrast, the liberals are deeply and completely linked to U.S. dirty

00:07:33.340 tricksters in the Democrats. I mean, not just politicians. Here's Trudeau and Hillary Clinton in a photo,

00:07:39.600 and here's Trudeau and George Soros in a photo. But here's a story in the Globe and Mail about

00:07:44.720 Justin Trudeau's liberals have quietly been getting regular advice from Jennifer O'Malley Dillon,

00:07:50.180 Barack Obama's deputy campaign manager in the last U.S. presidential campaign. What? David Axelrod,

00:07:56.840 Barack Obama's chief strategist, has been offering similar advice to the Trudeau team in the form of

00:08:01.820 general encouragement during the election campaign. David Axelrod. Precision Strategies' Jen

00:08:08.440 O'Malley Dillon, who worked with the liberals, tweeted her congratulations to Trudeau advisors,

00:08:13.560 Gerald Butts, Katie Telford, and Jeremy Broadhurst, saying, hope and hard work every single day paid

00:08:19.480 off. Proud, she wrote. O'Malley Dillon's firm also boasted of being honored to be a part of Team

00:08:25.860 Trudeau on Twitter. There's so many, they're boasting about it. Two of Obama's campaign aides

00:08:30.720 worked for Trudeau's campaign. That's the New York Times. The liberals knew exactly who to go to as they

00:08:38.700 were putting together their own data operation for the 2015 campaign. They hired Precision Strategies,

00:08:44.740 a U.S. firm created by some of the masterminds behind the Obama campaign's data operation,

00:08:49.260 including Jen O'Malley Dillon, the architect of Mr. Obama. Like, there's so many stories

00:08:53.400 about it. They're boasting about it. They're not shy about it. The campaign was run by U.S. Democrats.

00:09:03.760 It wasn't even a Canadian campaign. And these people were not shy and hiding from it because

00:09:11.500 they knew the Canadian media is absolutely fine with foreign meddling, as long as it's not American 0.54

00:09:17.820 right-wingers. I mean, the environmental movement in Canada is largely financed from abroad,

00:09:24.380 from Americans. The David Suzuki Foundation takes a million bucks a year from foreigners to stop our 0.92

00:09:29.860 oil and gas and forestry and fisheries industry, not to stop Russia's or Iran's or Saudi Arabia's.

00:09:36.100 Isn't that odd? Imagine if the conservatives had contracted out their campaign to the republic. You

00:09:43.420 can't imagine it. They would never do it. But now we know they contracted out the work to work to the

00:09:50.260 Obama Democrats. The work was done by the Obama Democrats, but the money came from communist China.

00:09:57.460 China. That's what we've all found out. I mean, I wrote about it in this book three years ago,

00:10:03.560 China virus, how Justin Trudeau's pro-communist ideology is putting Canadians in danger. The book

00:10:08.780 wasn't even really about the pandemic. It was about China and communism being the virus. A lot of those 0.93

00:10:14.720 facts are being rehashed now. There is some important news, of course. We're finding out that the money

00:10:21.820 came from China and also that 11 candidates were favored by the communists in China. And money was

00:10:30.280 even funneled through a sitting member of the provincial parliament. And look at this about

00:10:34.980 Papineau. Papineau is Justin Trudeau's own riding. Here's Norman Spector, a pundit who used to be a

00:10:40.800 conservative in Victoria, who points out, in 2016, Justin Trudeau's riding association received nearly

00:10:46.020 $70,000 from donors in the Vancouver Chinese community, 68% of all contributions for the year.

00:10:52.980 The contributions were divided into 45 individual donations, not to exceed the maximum amount allowed.

00:11:00.680 68% of all donations in Trudeau's riding came from Chinese Canadians in Vancouver. Here's a picture

00:11:10.860 of that list. Now, of course, Chinese Canadians are free to donate to whoever they want, just as any

00:11:17.420 other ethnicity. But we've just learned from CSIS and others that the Chinese government took money

00:11:25.040 and then laundered it, laundered it to McGill University, laundered it to the Trudeau Foundation.

00:11:31.600 Did they launder it with 45 people saying, here, donate $1,500 to Justin Trudeau and Papineau?

00:11:37.600 Sure looks like it. And I come back to my opening point about projection. Everything they accused you

00:11:45.880 of doing, they did. They accused you and the truckers from taking money from foreigners. They're the ones 1.00

00:11:53.000 who took money from foreigners. They accused foreign interference on behalf of the truckers.

00:11:58.540 There was none. Putin didn't do it. But foreign interference in their favors, both to run their campaigns

00:12:03.800 and on the financing. You bet. And foreign propaganda, absolutely. Everything they accuse

00:12:11.600 you of doing, they have done first. Today, Marco Mendocino made an announcement trying to shift the

00:12:20.280 focus of this infiltration by Communist China. It was actually a re-announcement of other announcements

00:12:26.520 that he's going to look into the, he's going to get to the bottom of this. Just you wait and see.

00:12:32.140 Remains much more work to be done. We are at a critical juncture when it comes to the security

00:12:38.560 of our democratic institutions. And now we're taking another step in protecting them.

00:12:46.360 Today, I'm announcing the launch of consultations to guide how we will set up a new foreign influence

00:12:54.300 transparency registry in Canada. Consultations will involve direct engagements with communities,

00:13:03.340 stakeholders, and the general public. And these consultations will inform the path forward.

00:13:10.500 A virtual portal has also been set up on our Public Safety Canada website, where individuals

00:13:17.720 will be able to submit their ideas. This process will begin now and conclude on May 9. At its core,

00:13:28.480 the purpose of our consultation will seek to do three things. Foster transparency regarding legitimate

00:13:36.680 foreign state lobbying and activities. Modernize existing legislative authorities to address and mitigate

00:13:45.160 foreign state activities that go beyond legitimate diplomacy in an attempt to clandestinely or deceptively

00:13:53.760 manipulate Canada's open democracy, economy, and society. And finally, to broadly engage all Canadians

00:14:03.460 in a conversation about how to protect our institutions from foreign interference in an inclusive manner

00:14:12.240 that respects the diversity of our population and, of course, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:14:20.960 I hope that all Canadians will take part in this exercise.

00:14:25.340 And I, along with my colleagues, look forward to engaging through roundtable discussions in the coming weeks.

00:14:32.480 Yeah, more general, generic studies into the matter, not specific investigations into specific donations

00:14:40.200 and specific MLAs and MPPs and MPs. Of course, do you doubt it, for a second it will target Trudeau's enemies.

00:14:49.120 Here's Trudeau himself, a clip we showed you yesterday.

00:14:51.580 And finally, today I can announce that we're investing $5.5 million to build capacity of civil society organizations

00:14:59.980 to combat disinformation. Because we know disinformation, often generated abroad,

00:15:06.540 can be a real threat to our elections, and it's a threat that the federal government cannot combat alone.

00:15:12.800 Do you think that will investigate the Chinese Communist Party and their support for the liberals?

00:15:18.120 Or do you think it'll investigate, oh, say, online sources like us?

00:15:22.240 This morning, along with Marco Mendocino, Mary Ng took the stand. 0.86

00:15:27.240 She's so corrupt. Look at these headlines. I just got to remind you who she is. 1.00

00:15:31.180 Here's a story in the National Post.

00:15:33.240 Trade minister says no one in office flagged ethics issue when doling out contracts to close friend.

00:15:41.020 There is simply no excuse for contracting with a friend's company, the ethics commissioner said in December.

00:15:45.460 So Mary Ng is the person who gave a huge contract to her good friend, and her excuse was,

00:15:53.000 well, no one told me I couldn't. I certainly didn't know better.

00:15:56.360 I'm a Trudeau cabinet minister. She's just following what the boss says. 0.99

00:15:59.760 Anyways, so Mary Ng, who you can trust, was rolled out yesterday to call people racist. 0.96

00:16:08.340 But of course, here, take a look.

00:16:10.040 What specifically are you referring to when you talk about history?

00:16:12.940 What are you fearful that we're going to replicate that we've done in the past?

00:16:16.940 Well, there are generations of Canadians now in British Columbia who are Japanese Canadians

00:16:22.660 who've had an experience of being excluded.

00:16:25.820 We have had an exclusion act in this country.

00:16:29.600 We have had other mechanisms where my colleagues shared that after 9-11,

00:16:40.060 again, an aspersion that has been cast.

00:16:44.220 What I want to say is that Chinese Canadians care deeply about Canada's democracy.

00:16:50.060 And they expect that their vote will count and that there isn't a shadow on their exercise of democracy.

00:16:57.520 I think putting together this registry and doing the work,

00:17:02.060 doing the work of listening to Canadians so that we get it right,

00:17:06.120 is what Minister Mendicino has announced today.

00:17:08.920 And that is the work that I'm committed to doing with my ministerial colleague.

00:17:13.080 And indeed, that's the work our government is committed to doing.

00:17:15.600 But like I said, everything they accuse you of doing is what they did first.

00:17:19.860 They project.

00:17:20.860 They have a guilty conscience if they have a conscience.

00:17:24.680 Plus, they want to say it first about you before you say it about them.

00:17:28.120 I remember when I was in grade school and I hit my friend Lenny on the back with a hockey stick.

00:17:33.000 It didn't hurt him, but I knew it was wrong.

00:17:35.040 And I was very little.

00:17:36.540 I was of tender years.

00:17:37.620 And I ran to the principal to tattle on him first.

00:17:40.760 This is true confession time.

00:17:42.020 I was in grade school.

00:17:43.300 And even then, as a child, I knew, well, if I complain about Lenny first, I'll muddy the waters.

00:17:48.720 And when he comes to complain that I hit him in the back with a hockey stick, it'll be too confusing.

00:17:53.660 That's the liberal strategy as grownups.

00:17:55.840 That was when I was a child.

00:17:56.900 I put aside childish things.

00:17:58.220 But the liberals do that. 0.77

00:18:00.320 They know that they're racist, but they know it's wise to call you a racist first. 0.98

00:18:05.500 They know they're sexist. 0.99

00:18:06.760 Justin Trudeau sexually assaulted Rao's night. 0.98

00:18:09.200 But he'll call you that first because they know that you care about not being a racist, not being a sexist, not being corrupt. 0.84

00:18:14.880 So you will actually stop and answer in good faith.

00:18:18.860 You'll answer the substance, even though it was a bad faith attack.

00:18:21.380 Someone calls you a racist or a sexist, you're going to be offended.

00:18:24.560 You're going to have your feelings hurt and you'll stop and you'll answer it and you'll be stuck talking about racism, sexism and trying to prove a negative.

00:18:32.860 They're laughing because they never meant it.

00:18:35.300 They just wanted to distract and muddy the waters and make you say it first.

00:18:38.580 They project whatever they accuse you of doing, they did first. 0.94

00:18:43.140 By the way, they are racist too.

00:18:44.680 Against the Falun Gong, against Tibetans, against Hong Kongers, against Chinese Canadians who came to Canada and want to be free.

00:18:54.880 And they don't want the Chinese government meddling in our affairs. 0.81

00:18:57.900 Here's a Hong Kong Canadian who's talking about why it's so important that we root out these Chinese communist spies.

00:19:06.740 Because there is a very serious allegation saying that our democracy being threatened, some foreign powers are trying to undermine it and also allegedly being compromised.

00:19:18.860 So as Canadians, we need to know actually how our system works and where is it broken, if any.

00:19:25.660 And also, as Chinese Canadians, I think it's really important to know who are the culprits in our community, if there's any. 1.00

00:19:33.540 And also, like, who are the ones that have dealings or untoward dealings with foreign agencies, especially those among us elected officials.

00:19:44.280 So for the sake of the entire Chinese Canadian community, I think it's also important because otherwise, this whole suspicion will be shrouded upon the entire Chinese community, which is not good for anyone.

00:19:57.820 And also, to those being named or being alleged, saying that they have done something wrong, it will treat them justice if they really have done nothing wrong.

00:20:08.380 Ask them to come clean. Tell us, actually, what happened? What do you do? And what's your activities with any of those kind of foreign agents?

00:20:16.860 What is your professional way or the natural, normal behaviour?

00:20:21.620 As a politician, we need to know all this, go to the bottom of it. I think it's just fair and do just for everyone.

00:20:28.780 You mentioned suspicion on the Chinese Canadian community because you've warned of a backlash against the Chinese Canadian population because of this issue.

00:20:36.140 What are you seeing that backlash? What are you seeing there?

00:20:40.420 Actually, I see that we are in a triple whammy situation, three levels.

00:20:45.540 First of all, as Canadians, as I just say, we see our democracy being threatened and allegedly being compromised.

00:20:51.620 So that's one thing. And on the other level, we, as Chinese Canadians, we are particularly vulnerable and the easiest targets to the Chinese influence here. 0.92

00:21:04.760 So that's why we need to come clean and also people, we need to come clean and also tell us exactly what happened so that we know who are the culprits.

00:21:15.420 And thirdly, if we don't root out those culprits, that's exactly what you're talking about.

00:21:21.600 The racist backlash and the rising anti-Asian sentiments will be upon every one of us in the Chinese community and as well as for the Asian Canadian community as well.

00:21:33.420 You know, it reminds me of how Rudy Giuliani, obviously a proud Italian man, rooted out the mafia in New York.

00:21:41.600 And at first you might think, well, why would an Italian man root out the mafia in New York?

00:21:45.520 First of all, because he had the moral authority to do. He was a great prosecutor and a mayor.

00:21:49.600 But second of all, as that lady from Hong Kong said, he didn't want Italian-American to be synonymous with mafia.

00:21:58.560 He was embarrassed by the mafia.

00:22:01.640 And if anything, he wanted to show that he as an Italian was against it, he'd put them in prison. 0.80

00:22:06.160 There are a lot of reasons to stop communist China from infiltrating in Canada.

00:22:12.120 And a big reason is that so that it's not approved that Chinese Canadians can be spies from the government of China,

00:22:21.460 which is obviously what Trudeau approves of and is happy to approve of if there's enough cash in it for him.

00:22:28.600 I just think of all the accusations.

00:22:31.120 You're a Russian spy. 0.74

00:22:32.700 You're being funded by Americans.

00:22:34.700 You're American-style campaigning.

00:22:38.160 I don't think they actually ever meant it.

00:22:41.380 I think all they were doing is making us defend ourselves over something we weren't guilty for

00:22:46.600 and making the discussion on our side of the fence rather than theirs.

00:22:51.740 They were guilty of it all along.

00:22:54.840 Stay with us for more.

00:23:00.320 Well, Roxham Road has been in the news a lot lately,

00:23:03.340 and our own Alexa Lavoie has gone there several times, not just on the Quebec side,

00:23:07.820 but she went on the New York side.

00:23:09.680 And as you know, one of the human traffickers who didn't much like her journalism actually assaulted her.

00:23:16.420 This was shocking to us when we are taking legal action, as we always do when our people are attacked.

00:23:21.940 But it, perhaps in retrospect, shouldn't have been that surprising.

00:23:25.800 We were surprised.

00:23:27.160 It was surprising all the more so because there was a police officer mere feet away.

00:23:32.460 However, the human trafficker knew what I guess we didn't think of,

00:23:35.980 which is that you can have a ton of police, but if they're on the wrong side of the border,

00:23:41.220 they can't do anything.

00:23:42.500 Here, just take a quick glance at what I'm talking about.

00:23:45.240 An assault on Alexa Lavoie, with RCMP standing helplessly, just feet away. 1.00

00:23:51.800 Ooh, that ass f*** off. 1.00

00:23:53.920 Can you be... 1.00

00:23:55.240 Stop it! 0.99

00:23:56.020 Hey! 0.99

00:23:56.760 Watch it!

00:23:58.120 I'm trying to...

00:23:58.940 You don't put the... 1.00

00:24:00.020 Give me that f***. 1.00

00:24:01.040 Hey! 0.99

00:24:01.360 I'm gonna throw the way into that.

00:24:03.080 Let me doing my job!

00:24:05.160 What's your job?

00:24:08.220 I'm going...

00:24:09.240 I'm going... 1.00

00:24:10.180 Give me that f***ing c***. 1.00

00:24:11.140 Hey! 1.00

00:24:11.460 I'm gonna show you. 0.99

00:24:12.460 I'm gonna broke that c***. 1.00

00:24:13.760 You... 1.00

00:24:14.440 Give me that f***ing c***. 1.00

00:24:15.220 You go away. 1.00

00:24:17.380 You go away.

00:24:19.280 Put that phone away.

00:24:20.180 You go away.

00:24:22.200 You don't touch my stuff. 0.86

00:24:23.860 Don't touch me.

00:24:26.500 I'm going to report your car.

00:24:29.880 But your witness...

00:24:31.820 See, that police is witness.

00:24:33.720 Yeah. 1.00

00:24:33.900 Give me that f***ing c***. 1.00

00:24:34.900 You don't touch me. 1.00

00:24:36.540 You don't touch me.

00:24:37.860 Don't put your coverage with me. 1.00

00:24:39.800 Shut the f*** up, man. 1.00

00:24:41.140 Don't call me, man. 1.00

00:24:41.920 You tell me to stop.

00:24:43.900 Are you talking to me?

00:24:45.100 I'm talking to you.

00:24:46.240 I don't understand you.

00:24:47.920 I don't understand you. 1.00

00:24:48.820 F*** yourself. 1.00

00:24:49.640 Do you know who I am? 1.00

00:24:50.720 Do you want to know who I am?

00:24:52.260 Do you want to know who I am?

00:24:53.840 Do you want to know who I am?

00:24:55.740 Do you want to know? 1.00

00:24:56.740 F***ing c***. 1.00

00:24:57.560 Oh, thank you very much. 0.99

00:24:59.240 You too.

00:24:59.980 Keep on doing what you do best.

00:25:05.860 This is why.

00:25:07.280 This is why.

00:25:08.180 This is exactly what it's causing.

00:25:10.320 Chaos.

00:25:10.680 Well, that's very infuriating.

00:25:13.380 I can tell you that we are taking steps on the New York side, retaining legal counsel,

00:25:18.400 and we hope to be able to identify the man in question and take legal steps against him.

00:25:22.780 I tell you all this because Roxham Road is heating up for a number of reasons.

00:25:26.860 One of them is because on the New York side, Mayor Adams of New York City is sick of migrants coming in from the southern United States,

00:25:38.200 crossing in from the border with Mexico, and being shipped to New York.

00:25:43.120 That's a move that some Republican governors, including from Florida and Texas, are doing, saying,

00:25:49.480 hey, you blue state liberals who are all for open borders, let's see how you can do with a few hundred or a few thousand migrants straining your social welfare system. 0.96

00:25:59.720 Well, the same thing has happened in Canada.

00:26:03.920 As millions of migrants have come into the United States, well, about a hundred thousand or more migrants have come across the Roxham Road border.

00:26:11.820 They're immediately arrested, but then set free.

00:26:16.000 It's like fishing when you catch and release.

00:26:18.640 Many of them do not find work quickly.

00:26:20.940 They go on social welfare programs and even finding a place to stay.

00:26:27.660 Joining us now via Skype from British Columbia is our friend Lindsay Shepard,

00:26:32.900 who is a journalist with True North, who has a new story on the subject entitled,

00:26:37.160 B.C., Alberta have no current plans to accept relocated Roxham Road asylum seekers.

00:26:44.040 Lindsay, great to see you again, and congratulations on this story.

00:26:47.660 Thank you. It's nice to see you as well.

00:26:50.340 It's an interesting story because Roxham Road is the border between New York State and Quebec.

00:26:57.640 And that is the territory that all these illegal migrants step onto. 0.90

00:27:03.060 But Quebec says they're full, am I right?

00:27:05.420 And they're trying to push these migrants to other provinces, including some quite far away. 0.98

00:27:12.960 Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.

00:27:15.280 So Quebec Premier François Legault, he has said he cannot handle any more asylum seekers in Quebec.

00:27:23.420 You know, they're too strained there.

00:27:26.360 So the federal government has started shipping these asylum seekers to Ontario. 0.96

00:27:31.340 But now we're hearing the mayors and social support workers in these Ontario communities saying that they are overextended as well now.

00:27:41.020 So there are 4,300 of these, you know, Roxham Road crossers in Niagara Falls. 1.00

00:27:47.440 They are paying for, you know, the federal government.

00:27:51.700 So Canadian taxpayers are funding about 2,000 hotel rooms there.

00:27:56.380 And that doesn't include any other kind of, you know, social services like legal assistance, language classes, food banks.

00:28:04.060 So that mayor in Niagara Falls, he's asking for $5 million to support these migrants.

00:28:12.740 So, you know, he's asking for more resources rather than just saying, okay, hold off.

00:28:18.100 We can't take any more of this.

00:28:20.020 And that kind of is the trend because we're also seeing about 1,400 asylum seekers who are shipped to Cornwall, Ontario.

00:28:27.400 Same thing.

00:28:28.140 They're just asking for more money.

00:28:29.580 But my question is, why aren't we saying, okay, just no.

00:28:35.960 But that does seem to be what BC and Alberta, that seems to be the line there.

00:28:41.020 They have no current plans to accept any asylum seekers who cross via Roxham Road.

00:28:46.800 Now, I don't think this is any kind of principled stand on the part of BC and Alberta.

00:28:51.980 I think it might just be a matter of geography, and maybe the federal government hasn't asked them yet if they could transfer any migrants there.

00:29:00.160 But for now, they have said, both of those provinces have said that they will not be accepting any Roxham Road asylum seekers.

00:29:07.840 As for Saskatchewan and Manitoba, I did not get a response from any of their spokespeople.

00:29:15.100 So take from that what you will.

00:29:18.100 Maybe they will be soon announcing that they'll be taking in some migrants.

00:29:21.840 But yeah, we are seeing them, you know, the trip seems to be kind of Latin America.

00:29:26.900 And then, like you said, they go to maybe a Republican state, get shipped to somewhere like New York.

00:29:33.200 Then the New York City mayor pays for them to go to Plattsburgh, New York, and then they cross into Roxham Road.

00:29:40.860 Then they can either be bused into Ontario or Atlantic Canada for now.

00:29:44.680 So who knows what their next destinations will be, though?

00:29:48.180 Yeah, you raised a lot of interesting points.

00:29:49.920 I was just doing the math.

00:29:51.280 Niagara Falls, the city proper, has less than 100,000 people.

00:29:54.880 I mean, there's sort of a greater area to have, I think you said, over 4,000 migrants being stacked up in hotels.

00:30:05.220 And I've been to Niagara Falls.

00:30:06.600 I mean, the hotels are lovely if you have a falls view.

00:30:09.040 That's sort of very romantic.

00:30:10.520 I mean, Niagara Falls is sort of a classic honeymoon location.

00:30:15.980 It's very touristy.

00:30:16.880 It strikes me as odd to take up thousands of hotel rooms with migrants who are not there to spend money in the local restaurants and souvenir shops and things like that. 1.00

00:30:29.740 They're there just as a place to stay.

00:30:32.360 And I was in my mind thinking, OK, you've got 3,000, 4,000 people in a city of less than 100,000.

00:30:38.940 Well, compare that to Calgary.

00:30:40.640 Calgary's got over a million people.

00:30:42.300 That would be like having 40,000 people just dumped in Calgary.

00:30:48.740 Like, you couldn't, everything would be affected by it.

00:30:52.760 Everything from policing to waiting lines in hospitals to schools to English as a second language training to the demand for insurance.

00:31:01.280 Like, it's just crazy.

00:31:03.800 And you're right to say that the reaction from the mayor, well, give me more money.

00:31:07.380 That's not the reaction.

00:31:09.100 That's not the solution.

00:31:10.600 Give me five million bucks.

00:31:11.660 That's not going to fix the problem.

00:31:13.740 The problem is to put up a fence or just to enforce the law.

00:31:18.140 Right.

00:31:18.740 And I think Niagara Falls was chosen because they have a lot of hotel rooms.

00:31:22.420 But I think the mayor got to the point where he's like, OK, tourist season is looming and all of the hotel rooms are booked.

00:31:29.320 So, I mean, as you're saying, so for his part, conservative leader Pierre Polyev has said, close Roxham Road, close that illegal border point crossing within 30 days.

00:31:44.000 And I think that's totally reasonable.

00:31:46.000 You know, 30 days kind of gives a chance for the message to spread internationally, right?

00:31:52.500 Because right now, people remember Trudeau's 2017 tweet, welcome to Canada, to those fleeing war and persecution.

00:32:01.500 You're welcome here, you know.

00:32:02.960 And then that's when the flood kind of started through Roxham Road.

00:32:07.840 It stopped during the pandemic.

00:32:09.820 So they are capable of closing it.

00:32:11.960 But that's kind of when this all started.

00:32:15.020 For his part, Quebec Premier Legault has said Trudeau needs to issue a new tweet and he needs to say, don't come anymore.

00:32:22.740 And that's right.

00:32:23.600 You know, we need to say, you know, in the past, OK, at Roxham Road, there were Canadian authorities ready to hug you and welcome you in and carry your luggage for you.

00:32:34.160 But that stops now.

00:32:35.740 And this is a snowy, frozen, forested area and people can and do die crossing this border.

00:32:44.440 Do not attempt.

00:32:46.320 I'm not sure if anyone's died at the Roxham Road one.

00:32:48.760 I know people have died crossing over the Manitoba border because you're in the middle of a big field and really there's no one around.

00:32:55.220 This is, I'm not going to say it's urban, but there's towns nearby.

00:32:59.380 It's sort of a country road, but there's so many RCMP immediately, it's not even a big border.

00:33:05.640 It's like a little ditch.

00:33:07.120 You could put up a chain link fence in an hour and just start sending people back.

00:33:13.680 It's not that it's an invasion.

00:33:15.780 It's just, I mean, it's been the world's largest, longest undefended border for, well, since the beginning.

00:33:23.040 The only reason they're crossing now is they know they won't be ejected.

00:33:27.400 So it's not even a lack of a barrier.

00:33:30.140 It's that they know they will be welcomed and not spat back out.

00:33:32.980 I think it's incredible.

00:33:34.860 And I think part of me thinks it will hasten the end of this by spreading the pain to other mayors and premiers completely unrelated.

00:33:45.580 By taking tens of thousands of these migrants and warehousing them in other cities and provinces is maybe will result in some action. 1.00

00:33:58.040 But I don't know.

00:33:58.940 I don't want to be too optimistic.

00:34:00.480 Nothing's happened so far.

00:34:01.520 Do you think Roxham Road will be closed under a liberal government?

00:34:06.180 It doesn't look like it.

00:34:10.860 Trudeau has said he wants to renegotiate the safe third country agreement.

00:34:15.120 I don't know if that actually involves closing Roxham Road.

00:34:20.220 But, you know, what we do know is that about 150 people are crossing each day.

00:34:26.260 And before Legault from Quebec kind of put his foot down, I mean, right now, Quebec is spending $20 million a month on welfare checks for asylum seekers.

00:34:39.060 So that is $20 million per month just for the asylum seekers that are in Quebec.

00:34:43.080 So that's kind of what he was facing before he decided to say, OK, disperse these asylum seekers. 1.00

00:34:50.120 Just in January of this year, there were 4,875 crossers into Quebec, illegal crossers.

00:34:58.900 Well, we're certainly going to stay on the subject.

00:35:01.500 Thanks, Lindsay.

00:35:02.280 Great to see you again.

00:35:03.080 Keep up the great work at True North.

00:35:04.980 Thank you.

00:35:05.720 All right.

00:35:06.060 There you have it, Lindsay Shepard.

00:35:07.480 Stay with us.

00:35:08.120 More ahead.

00:35:13.080 Hey, welcome back.

00:35:21.000 Marion writes, just watched your interview with Coach Blade, and it roused a reaction in me that has been there since I first heard a man pretending to be women just to get a place where they could win.

00:35:31.120 No one has suggested perhaps we need a couple of extra categories, the usual men's sports and women's sports, plus a transgendered man to woman and a transgendered woman to man category.

00:35:40.560 Well, listen, it certainly sounds like a lot of categories and a lot of things.

00:35:45.780 I think, you know, I'm not opposed to everyone having their own league.

00:35:51.220 I think what's important is in the name of fairness, in the name of sport, that we separate women from big, burly, macho man, Randy Savage. 0.57

00:36:00.520 That's why I just can't get over that South Park episode, which was a joke three years ago.

00:36:06.740 Now it's the news.

00:36:07.920 The Age of Goddess writes, one big slap in the face of all women. 0.97

00:36:13.400 If this doesn't radicalize us, I don't know what will.

00:36:16.420 Well, radicalize can mean various things.

00:36:18.940 I mean, it means go to the root.

00:36:19.920 That's what radix means in Latin, excuse me.

00:36:24.740 I think wake us up is the better phrase because the other side will say, oh, who radicalized you?

00:36:29.140 Who made you an extremist?

00:36:30.940 We're not the extremists.

00:36:32.880 They are.

00:36:33.580 That's what's so crazy about Pastor Derek Reimer being prosecuted in Calgary.

00:36:38.860 He heckled, for sure.

00:36:40.060 He heckled the drag queen story hour.

00:36:42.640 That's not a crime to heckle.

00:36:44.520 But the people who were exposing children of tender years to such sexuality, that's not arrested or prosecuted.

00:36:51.080 That's crazy to me.

00:36:53.000 TCZ says, the censoring of malinformation is the ultimate form of censorship.

00:36:57.500 It is truly the suspension of the freedom of speech.

00:37:01.300 Yeah, you know what?

00:37:02.040 I don't think I'd ever heard malinformation before.

00:37:03.980 I don't think it's a real word.

00:37:05.720 Misinformation is a word.

00:37:06.900 We've heard that you're misinformed.

00:37:09.680 Disinformation was sort of a made-up word, I think, in the Cold War.

00:37:13.000 And I think it's a word enough.

00:37:15.220 Malinformation. 0.87

00:37:16.100 Now they're just making things up because it sounds a lot more sinister than, okay, fine, you're telling the truth, but I don't like it.

00:37:25.100 Of course, Justin Trudeau is going to be using the word malinformation any moment now.

00:37:30.880 Well, that's our show for today.

00:37:32.680 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 11, 2023

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