Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ EXCLUSIVE： Pfizer's COVID jabs were NOT 'safe and effective,' says activist Naomi Wolf

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00:01:15.220 Tonight, a feature interview with Naomi Wolf, cultural leader, author, and COVID dissident.

00:01:22.640 It's February 4th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:26.020 You're ready for freedom!

00:01:28.800 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:40.400 My dear friend David Menzies had a sit-down with Naomi Wolf, the famous American author and activist.

00:01:48.700 I would say it's fair to describe her in the past as being a woman of the left.

00:01:53.760 But what does left and right even mean anymore with issues like the pandemic and lockdowns?

00:01:59.540 Are you right-wing or left-wing if you didn't want to be forced to have a jab?

00:02:04.600 It's sort of scrambled traditional notions of right and left.

00:02:07.920 My friend David Menzies sat down with her as she was through Canada, and that is our special episode of today's Ezra LeVance Show, hosted by my friend David Menzies.

00:02:18.400 Here it is.

00:02:22.020 David Menzies for Rebel News here in Toronto, and I am delighted to be with Naomi Wolf.

00:02:28.480 She is a journalist and a prolific author, and her most recent book, along with Amy Kelly, is the Pfizer Papers, subtitled Pfizer's Crimes Against Humanity.

00:02:42.140 And as you can imagine, folks, this book has garnered lavish praise and also harsh criticism.

00:02:49.280 It all depends, I guess, where one stands vis-a-vis experimental vaccines and government control.

00:02:56.640 And, Naomi, I want to thank you, first of all, for making the time to speak with us.

00:03:03.440 I think your book is fantastic.

00:03:05.780 It's very important.

00:03:07.900 It's an important book about a really horrible time in our recent history when the vaccine mandates went out, the lockdowns went out due to COVID-19.

00:03:20.320 And in a nutshell, the premise of the book is that Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine trials were deeply flawed, yet those trials were knowingly misrepresented as safe and effective.

00:03:36.320 For starters, Naomi, how do you back up those allegations?

00:03:39.880 Well, first, let me just set the record straight a tiny bit.

00:03:45.200 Oh, sure.

00:03:45.680 Thank you.

00:03:48.680 To my knowledge, this book hasn't gotten criticism.

00:03:51.480 You may be aware of some of which I'm not aware, but pretty much all of my books have gotten both praise and criticism when I wrote them.

00:03:58.680 This book is a collection of about 50 reports based on 450,000 documents, internal Pfizer documents released by court order when lawyer Aaron Seary won a lawsuit against the Food and Drug Administration in the United States, which was custodian of these documents.

00:04:17.920 And so the reports are not written by me.

00:04:21.200 They're written by 3,250 experts, again, doctors and scientists from many backgrounds.

00:04:27.300 And to my knowledge, no one has challenged their findings.

00:04:31.360 So if you have information I don't have, please let me know.

00:04:33.440 You know, just by going online, I mean, it might be the usual trolls.

00:04:39.680 There are, I mean, even today on Route 2, your hotel here in downtown Toronto, you still see ones and twos of people, typically young people, still wearing, you know, masks.

00:04:53.020 And the pandemic is over.

00:04:54.740 Maybe they're early adopters of the next pandemic to come along.

00:05:00.200 So I guess there is a, I guess, a percentage of the population which says they have no problem with big government and big lockdowns and big pharma.

00:05:14.500 I hear you.

00:05:16.840 But again, just to be super clear, to my knowledge, because that's a big statement that you made, that the book received criticism, because it's a, it's not analysis.

00:05:25.780 It's not opinion.

00:05:26.960 It's not what I, it's not the kinds of books I write, which are commentary, political or social commentary.

00:05:32.720 It's pure science.

00:05:33.960 So to say that science receives criticism suggests that it's not correct.

00:05:38.780 And to my knowledge, nobody, the book's been out, no lawyer's letters.

00:05:42.480 It was published in mid-September.

00:05:44.540 No one has raised any challenges to the science in the Pfizer paper.

00:05:49.720 Speaking of scientific integrity, why don't we take it from there, Naomi?

00:05:54.680 How did Pfizer's actions during the clinical trials deviate from standard scientific and ethical protocols?

00:06:05.500 Oh, so many ways.

00:06:06.520 So these 3,250 doctors and scientists who come from backgrounds ranging from oncology to cardiology to medical fraud investigators, clinicians, biostatisticians, they found, well, let me first give you the headlines of what they found.

00:06:26.980 What they found is the greatest crime against humanity in recorded history, because Pfizer knew, and thus the FDA knew, and the chain of command all the way up to the White House knew that these injections, A, failed.

00:06:40.700 Within a month after rollout in November of 2020, Pfizer concluded internally that the vaccines didn't stop COVID.

00:06:47.080 So to this day, when you see, as you mentioned, people lining up to get a COVID shot, they're getting an injection, if it's made by Pfizer, that Pfizer knew within a month of rollout into the population didn't work for the purpose for which it was commissioned.

00:07:04.060 The internal language is vaccine failure and failure of efficacy.

00:07:07.760 So what you've got to process is that everything that followed, the kids being kept out of school, here in Canada, people being forbidden to travel if they're not vaccinated.

00:07:17.560 I have Canadian friends who couldn't go see their families if they weren't vaccinated.

00:07:21.200 I know a Canadian who was told, even though she had a history of anaphylactic shock in relation to one of the ingredients, that she had to take it.

00:07:29.920 And her doctor said, if you go into shock, I'll treat you then.

00:07:32.740 Like, all those horrors, the deaths, the injuries, the young adults dropping dead on athletic fields, that, you know, people losing their jobs, that was all based on a lie.

00:07:44.620 So, number one.

00:07:46.020 Number two, 1,223 people died within three months of the injection in the records.

00:07:53.200 And there are thousands and thousands, like, industrial-scale side effects in the Pfizer documents that are not the side effects of which people were warned.

00:08:02.740 People were told there would be maybe chills, fever, pain at the injection site, industrial-scale heart damage, blood clots, lung clots, leg clots, neurological conditions,

00:08:14.960 fluorid neurological conditions, Bell's palsy, Guillain-Barre, Alzheimer's, dementia, strokes, epilepsies, you know, joint disorders is the number two side effect, muscle pain, myalgia, and the number one side effect.

00:08:30.900 Number three side effect is COVID, as I mentioned.

00:08:34.640 Unbelievable.

00:08:35.020 And so serious, horrific injuries.

00:08:40.700 And the last thing I want to say to make sure I say it is, in spite of all of these horrors, the centerpiece of the Pfizer papers is focused on human reproduction and on 360-degree processes to disrupt and upend human reproduction, especially female fertility.

00:09:00.000 Yeah, and I'd like to get into that a little later, Naomi, but certainly this is, to me, beyond a dereliction of duty.

00:09:08.320 And not a month goes by, or a week for that matter, where we don't learn more of the shenanigans behind the COVID mandates.

00:09:17.220 Even Dr. Fauci himself said the six-week, sorry, the six-feet or two-meter social distancing, I was just made up.

00:09:25.720 They plucked that number out of the blue.

00:09:27.120 Yeah, I sort of feel like the admissions that Dr. Fauci and others responsible for this, what clearly is a mass murder, mass sterilization, and I say that advisedly, you know, having looked at the law, what is mass murder, what is manslaughter, what is fraud, what is human trafficking, all of that is involved in the rollout of this injection onto a population, especially forcing it.

00:09:52.960 Those are red herring, for someone to say, oh, I'm sorry, I told people to stand six feet apart, or I'm sorry, I said two masks and then one mask, it's a red herring.

00:10:03.740 Going back to your question, which I haven't fully answered, what is the deviation in normal protocols for this, I'm going to say it again in case there's background noise.

00:10:14.640 Going back to your question, what are the failures in the study and then the rollout into the population, called the post-marketing surveillance?

00:10:25.420 They're astonishing, for instance, women were told not to get pregnant in the trials, and nonetheless, 270 of them got pregnant.

00:10:39.280 Pfizer managed to lose the records of 236 of them, which is illegal.

00:10:44.000 Oh, come on.

00:10:44.640 Oh, yeah, I'm not done.

00:10:45.980 Of the 34 women whose pregnancies went to term, 80% of those lost their babies.

00:10:52.420 So that's just one example.

00:10:54.800 Another important example of the non-science of these trials is Pfizer delayed, basically hid the bodies of eight dead vaccinated people who died with COVID, right?

00:11:07.680 They didn't report the deaths in the way that the law required so that they could get the emergency use authorization, and so that Pfizer and the FDA and the White House, and probably your government as well, could falsely claim that the injection was 95% effective, and that you're more likely to not be hospitalized and not die if you take the injection.

00:11:32.220 In fact, if they had correctly counted the eight people who were dead, who were vaccinated, they would have had to say, which we now know to be true, you're more likely to be hospitalized or die if you take the injection with COVID.

00:11:45.540 Astonishing.

00:11:46.100 As they say in Las Vegas, the fix is in.

00:11:48.780 But in the department, Naomi, of there's plenty of blame to go around, what do you see as the root cause of the FDA's failure to act on the warning signs from Pfizer's trial data?

00:12:04.560 I mean, that's a very good question, and I don't think we'll have the full answer unless there's a complete investigation and criminal and civil lawsuits.

00:12:15.780 It's imponderable, really, because anyone who reads the Pfizer papers can see clearly that there wasn't one red flag.

00:12:27.080 There weren't three red flags.

00:12:28.580 Every page screams, this disables people, this sterilizes people, this kills people.

00:12:36.700 And every page also, like there's no way to conclude after you look at the Pfizer papers that the goal, you know, as we say in tech, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

00:12:48.200 The goal of this injection is to drop the population.

00:12:51.420 This is not a conspiracy theory.

00:12:52.960 It's not my opinion.

00:12:54.280 It's literally the centerpiece of the trials, and Pfizer is the custodian of, they're supposed to oversee every page.

00:13:01.000 The bottom of many of these pages say FDA confidential, right?

00:13:04.900 It's their brief to protect us from injurious medicine and food.

00:13:12.420 The centerpiece, as I say, is, for example, records such as a chart with thousands of women in it that shows, like, cells of a spreadsheet.

00:13:24.440 10,000 women have no menstrual menses at all, 15,000, meaning they're totally infertile, 15,000 women are bleeding twice a month, 7,500 women have agonizing cramps and are passing tissue, a 10-year-old girl is bleeding upon injection, an 87-year-old woman is bleeding upon injection, these many women are casting their, you know, uterine linings.

00:13:47.480 I mean, it's a chart of menstrual damage, and I was deplatformed at the behest of the White House, it turns out, from two attorneys general lawsuits revealing this, because I warned that women were having, correctly, accurately, that women were having menstrual dysregulation and problems after receiving this injection.

00:14:06.520 That is the goal of this injection, one of them.

00:14:09.420 Another red flag, they knew it was killing babies in utero, and indeed, live births in the West, especially North America, have dropped by 13 to 20% since 2021 and the rollout of this injection.

00:14:25.380 There's a chart that went to the White House on April 20th, 2021, that it's called the Pregnancy and Lactation Report, and it's an eight-page report that proves that they're killing babies in the womb, and that went right to Dr. Walensky.

00:14:40.500 Two babies died in utero, Pfizer concluded that the cause of death was maternal exposure to the vaccine, this went right to the White House, they also have a chart of babies getting sick from lactating from vaccinated moms, babies, this many babies vomited, this many babies,

00:14:55.380 have edema, which is swollen tissue, this many babies have chills and fever, you know, one poor baby died of multi-organ system failure in the hospital, because the breast milk of vaccinated moms is poisoned by a spike and by lipid nanoparticles,

00:15:10.100 polyethylene glycol, an ingredient in antifreeze, it's a petroleum byproduct, and instead of warning the women of Canada and the women of America,

00:15:22.260 this report went to the White House, and three days later, Dr. Walensky gave a White House press conference, saying to the women of America,

00:15:31.240 there is no bad time to get a COVID vaccine before your pregnancy, during your pregnancy, or after your baby is born.

00:15:37.300 She had this document in her hands. These people are murderers, so, and the last thing I want to mention is,

00:15:42.260 Pfizer warned men who were vaccinated not to have intercourse with women of childbearing age, and if they did, to use two reliable forms of contraception, and

00:15:55.880 so there's something in the semen of vaccinated men, according to the papers, that Pfizer's worried about, causing damage either to women or to zygotes, to the fetus,

00:16:07.520 but they're not, to this day, disclosing what it is, and yet now we know that the lipid nanoparticles traverse every membrane in the human body.

00:16:17.280 They degrade the placenta, right? They block the ovaries, which is one reason women are having such horrible infertility and menstrual problems.

00:16:27.360 They traverse the placenta, and many midwives now, and Dr. James Thorpe, a fetal maternal medicine specialist, have shown nettings of calcifications in the placentas of vaccinated moms,

00:16:42.380 keeping babies from growing to term, and I pretty much don't know a pregnancy that has gone to term, full term, since 2021,

00:16:50.380 and babies are being born tiny and with so many problems, anecdotally and statistically, and then they also degrade the membrane around the testes of baby boys in utero,

00:17:04.760 degrading the Sertoli cells and the Leydig cells, which are the factories of masculine hormones that switch on in adolescence,

00:17:12.360 causing secondary male sex characteristics like deep voices, facial hair, the ability to father children,

00:17:18.460 so we don't even know if these baby boys born to vaccinated moms will grow up to be fertile, normal adult men.

00:17:26.880 So all of this damage is reproductive damage, and they knew it. They didn't stop it.

00:17:33.640 Again, it's, I mean, this is the weirdest thing about the Pfizer documents.

00:17:38.180 COVID is a respiratory illness. There's virtually so little to nothing about breathing,

00:17:45.500 or oxygen, blood oxygen levels, or mucous membranes, or nasal passages in the documents.

00:17:52.400 The centerpiece, as I keep saying, is sex and reproduction. And, like, they'll do weird things like

00:17:59.500 mate a vaccinated male rat with an unvaccinated female rat, sacrifice both rats, then analyze the tissues

00:18:07.700 of their sex organs, right? So it is a full-on successful experiment in disrupting human

00:18:14.760 reproduction, and it's worked. And we analyzed government data here in Canada, in one province,

00:18:20.200 and we found shocking sexual dysfunction, menstrual dysfunction, and reproductive dysfunction levels.

00:18:27.340 Naomi, what you're telling me is chilling my bones. It's also, I'm also having a profound experience

00:18:35.760 of deja vu. And if I can give you a personal anecdote, I'm not necessarily anti-pharmaceutical.

00:18:42.040 I definitely am anti-experimental vaccines. We know that a vaccine typically takes a decade

00:18:49.400 to develop. If you can do it in five years, that's considered lightning fast. I'm a 1962 baby. I believe

00:18:56.640 you share my birth year. Back then, there was a product on the market to cure morning sickness

00:19:02.240 called thalidomide. And more than 10,000 babies around the world were born with terrible birth

00:19:12.400 defects. Many were stillborn. My mother, she got a prescription for thalidomide. It sat in her night

00:19:21.140 table like a hand grenade with the pin still in. For whatever reason, woman's intuition, a hunch,

00:19:27.380 and she suffered greatly. I was told of morning sickness. She never took one tablet. I was brought

00:19:33.540 up by my grandparents. I've never had much contact with my mother or father, but her not taking that

00:19:41.160 pill was the greatest gift she could ever have given me. And when we go back to when this was developed

00:19:48.120 in the late 1950s, the woman of the world were lied to and betrayed by big pharma, by doctors, by pharmacists,

00:19:57.640 by nurses, this was completely safe. I know in Canada, when thalidomide was taken off the shelves

00:20:03.960 in Britain and Germany, it was still being prescribed for three more months, even though they knew the

00:20:12.480 results of thalidomide. To me, this COVID-19 shot, I'm sorry, it's the tragedy of thalidomide all over again.

00:20:22.680 Well, first of all, thank God your mom did that, you know, for you. Having had a lot of morning sickness

00:20:30.360 myself in my life, that's a very brave woman and took a lot. As a feminist, I would say, like, you're having

00:20:37.620 deja vu, I'm having deja vu. I've been to Canada many times in my long career as a feminist, and I met

00:20:44.440 many, many advocates for women's health, women's well-being, women's sexual health, women's reproductive

00:20:50.060 health, moms, babies, you know, same in my country. Where are they, right? Where are the feminists? Where

00:20:57.900 are the people who are supposed to care about women's health, baby's health? Literally, many of them have

00:21:04.720 been bought off. Dr. Walensky did a sit down with the author of What to Expect When You're

00:21:09.820 Expecting, and it, you know, promoted vaccines. But it's shocking to me that we're such a lonely

00:21:19.140 group of, you know, journalistic outcasts bringing this important story that is the kind of story I've

00:21:27.020 covered my whole career, you know, to kind of global recognition. And now it's like taboo to care

00:21:33.360 about women and babies. And Naomi, on that point...

00:21:38.460 But I do want to say one more thing. You know, it's so tempting, and I want to myself, because

00:21:44.040 going past that point involves real cognitive recalibration of your whole sense of the universe.

00:21:51.460 But it's not like thalidomide. Thalidomide, you want many bad things, you know, and I've broken many

00:21:58.760 of the stories. Silicone breast implants that have to be removed and were withdrawn from the market. I

00:22:02.620 helped break that story in the 90s. You know, Mirena birth control that had to be withdrawn from

00:22:08.080 the market. I mean, women are constantly being told something is the miracle drug, and then it turns out

00:22:13.240 that it's unsafe after the investors have made buckets of dosh, right? This isn't that. I too wanted

00:22:19.580 to believe that, you know, this would be just a case of, yet again, corporate greed, corporate,

00:22:26.160 you know, cutting corners to get to market, a little bit of overkill, bad unintended consequences.

00:22:31.900 That's not what this is. And like, now imagine thalidomide with the intention of creating a

00:22:39.420 population of deformed babies. You know, again, more chilling information. Let's talk about,

00:22:46.880 because you raise a great point, the feminists. When we look at the abortion debate, for decades,

00:22:53.640 the argument is always my body, my choice. But what we saw with the rollout of these COVID-19

00:23:00.840 vaccines was your body, government's choice. And by that, I mean coercion to get the shots,

00:23:08.060 dismissal, economic penalization, being pilloried. Where, indeed, as you asked, where were the

00:23:18.200 feminists? Is it my body, my choice only applies to terminating the life of a baby in the womb?

00:23:26.140 Totally. Apparently. I mean, I have a section in my book, Facing the Beast, which is about this last

00:23:33.000 four years and what's happened to us, in which I talk about U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor and

00:23:41.460 Kagan. And they were reiterating my body, my choice in relation to abortion rights, literally at the

00:23:50.020 same period in history that they were upholding vaccine mandates. Amazing. And like, how can that

00:23:57.580 kind of cognitive dissonance exist? I don't have an answer to that, except that, I mean, that brings

00:24:04.880 up all kinds of other questions about what happened to the ability to think critically of North

00:24:10.320 Americans. And there's, you know, many of us are seeing our loved ones who are vaccinated losing the

00:24:18.540 ability to think critically or to notice contradictions, right? Or, you know, they're engaging

00:24:24.200 binary thinking, black and white. They freak out when facts are presented that challenge their

00:24:30.260 worldview or, you know, the dominant narrative of the culture. And something that people really also

00:24:35.840 have to understand, unfortunately, is that one of our experts, Dr. Chris Flowers, has concluded that

00:24:41.100 these injections do cause brain damage. And they cause brain damage because they cross the blood-brain

00:24:45.360 barrier and they damage the prefrontal cortex. And Dr. Michael Nels, a German neurologist,

00:24:52.460 has written a very important book called The Indoctrinated Brain that also talks about

00:24:56.700 damage to the brain by these injections. But the prefrontal cortex is where we, I mean,

00:25:02.340 talk about road rage, right? People freaking out, being unable to moderate their emotions.

00:25:07.220 The prefrontal cortex is where you think twice, right? It's where you moderate your responses,

00:25:13.900 you edit your impulses, and you're also, that's where nuanced critical reasoning, gray areas,

00:25:20.600 back and forth, takes place. So this is a very, very, very dangerous, damaging drug. It's not even a

00:25:29.840 drug intervention, not just because of what it does to human fertility, but what it does to human's

00:25:35.320 ability to think to free will, right? And nuanced discussion.

00:25:39.100 You know, Naomi, I got to tell you, I think anyone watching this interview, those who did not take the

00:25:44.320 shot, they are breathing a sigh of relief right now, and maybe a big portion of those that did get

00:25:50.900 vaxxed, maybe having buyer's remorse right now, given all these horrible side effects. But let me ask

00:25:57.700 you about, if you can elaborate on COVAX disease, how was this condition identified? And what evidence

00:26:05.660 links it directly to the vaccine?

00:26:07.860 Before I answer that, can I speak to what you just said? Because I don't want to cause people distress

00:26:14.480 without hope.

00:26:15.620 Absolutely.

00:26:16.180 Thank you. Because I know this is very heavy, especially for people who, you know, have taken the vaccine,

00:26:22.800 which is the vast majority of Canadians, right? Because the penalties were so severe for not doing so.

00:26:28.920 So, you know, I've got, since I saw the horrible damage in the Pfizer papers, I've been obsessed,

00:26:37.420 because I have loved ones who are multiply injected. I've been obsessed with finding

00:26:42.140 healing paths, right? And I've asked our experts to find them as well. I'm not saying I have any,

00:26:50.640 concretely, but I do know much more about the nature, how the damage is wrought, and some of the

00:26:58.920 avenues to undoing the damage. And so I just basically want to say, the number one cause of damage is

00:27:10.020 inflammation, because the lipid nanoparticles bio distribute throughout the body and cause

00:27:14.340 inflammation. So anything you do that's anti-inflammatory is very good to help heal, you

00:27:21.120 know, that damage. So whether it's turmeric, or, you know, garlic, or their whole like leafy greens,

00:27:27.820 there's a whole number of anti-inflammatory, can look them up online, they're very available,

00:27:32.540 you know, ways to support your life, your healing. Another, another thing is the lymphatic system is

00:27:41.780 where a lot of these toxins circulate. And so whatever you can do to support your lymphatic

00:27:48.120 drainage is very important. I'm sorry to get all like gross and technical.

00:27:51.920 Oh, no, this is very helpful information, I think, really want to know. And, you know,

00:27:55.600 I've really changed my own life, just because there's shedding, too. And to protect myself,

00:27:59.860 I've changed my whole lifestyle. But so lymphatic, the lymphatic system is very, very important.

00:28:07.900 The, the, the materials spike in the lipid nanoparticles accumulate in the adrenals, the spleen,

00:28:14.580 the liver, the ovaries, unfortunately, if you're a woman, and the lymphatic nodes and systems. So

00:28:21.480 like lymphatic drainage massage, saunas, red light therapy, you know, exercise that makes you sweat,

00:28:28.700 sorry to, you know, be so graphic, but, and, and living as detoxified alive sunlight is a great healer,

00:28:37.880 as it turns out, vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin K. So I could go on at great length, but, and then the

00:28:45.480 immune system is damaged, right? So the things that you can do to support your immune system,

00:28:49.500 again, sun, sun, sun, turns out to be, interestingly, we were told it will kill you, but it's a great

00:28:55.140 healer and other ways to support your immune system, which you can go online and find. But those,

00:29:00.600 those are the three things, you know, lymphatic system, inflammation, and immunities. And so people

00:29:06.480 can undo, I think a lot of the damage, like, I'm just going to spit it out. I've come to believe

00:29:11.680 very deeply in God. And I think this whole thing has been, I don't mean to like detour from

00:29:16.240 conventional journalism. But I do think there's something here, because I feel like this whole

00:29:23.120 evil was accomplished in a more impressive way than humans alone manifested, right? Like all over

00:29:30.780 the world, all at once, the same evil messages. And it was a test. And, you know, a lot of us

00:29:37.420 failed it. I don't mean by getting vaccinated. I mean, like our institutions failed to serve humanity,

00:29:43.420 to serve the truth. Like hospitals failed to protect people. Doctors failed to protect people.

00:29:49.020 Journalists failed to tell the truth. Elected officials failed to protect their populations.

00:29:53.080 So having seen all of that, I am convinced that our human bodies are a miracle of being able to

00:30:02.000 heal. But that we need to kind of change our complete orientation toward healing in our bodies. And,

00:30:09.460 you know, what's our place in the universe in order to fully tap those resources? Sorry to get a

00:30:15.680 little California. Not at all. And Naomi, before we get to the COVAX, and just building on what you just

00:30:20.720 said, I am sure there are those in the medical establishment in big pharma, doctors that will

00:30:28.660 listen to what you just said. And they'll say, this is poppycock. This is nonsense. They still cling

00:30:34.360 to the efficiency and the effectiveness of those COVID-19 vaccines. What would you say to them in

00:30:42.340 rebuttal? I'm so sorry. I'm almost crying because I, you know, I have some of those doctors and

00:30:48.180 scientists in my immediate circle and, you know, my loved ones. And for the first two years, they

00:30:54.080 were like, this is poppycock. And now so many people, so many people I know and love are injured

00:30:59.660 that those doctors and scientists are coming to me for advice. Oh, that is fascinating. It's not

00:31:05.660 what I would have chosen. But I think that there's been, look, studies, at least in the United States,

00:31:11.480 which has a much more open information system, I fear, than Canada, because of what we discussed,

00:31:16.880 the kind of monopolization of Canadian media by your government, which is the biggest criminal

00:31:22.520 in this whole affair. In the US, at least, there's been a complete collapse of trust in public health

00:31:30.440 authorities and in the medical system. People know there's a 1% uptake in the booster. And that's

00:31:36.240 largely due to my team and the Pfizer papers and people like Steve Bannon, who brought this

00:31:40.800 information to a wide public and, you know, other truth tellers, a handful of truth tellers,

00:31:45.900 and a handful of platforms that didn't censor them. And that people don't trust their doctors

00:31:53.200 anymore. They don't want to be in the hospital. They don't believe what they're being told. They're

00:31:57.220 doing their own research. And it turns out that now it turns out, I mean, there's another

00:32:00.860 conversation, but ranging from traditional cancer care to statins to, you know, like the, what is it,

00:32:08.620 72 injections kids get compared to the four our generation got. No one believes, no one believes

00:32:15.320 conventional medicine anymore, unless they have literally no access to other sources of information

00:32:21.120 in the United States. So I don't think you're right in my country. In my country, what's happening

00:32:26.700 is doctors and scientists and public health authorities are turning to each other and

00:32:30.540 saying, how do we get public trust back? And they know they messed up.

00:32:34.560 That's fascinating. And let's hope they learn from their mistakes of these last four years.

00:32:40.260 Tell me again, going back to the COVAX disease. Naomi, how was this condition identified? And what

00:32:47.400 evidence links it directly to the vaccine?

00:32:50.520 Thank you. I will tell you, that is the work of one of our experts called Dr. Robert Chandler. He

00:32:58.260 is a sports medicine physician, very distinguished. He treated the Angels and the Lakers and other

00:33:04.180 national sports teams. And he got the tranche of slides, pathology slides by a deceased German

00:33:14.740 pathologist, whose name I can't pronounce, but I refer you to the book. And those are reproduced in

00:33:21.980 the Pfizer papers. And you can see clearly things like changes in the cardiac muscle, you know, changes

00:33:29.520 in striations, changes in the lining of the vascular system. Oh, there's one thing I haven't mentioned

00:33:36.860 when I talked about healing, which is the vascular system, like doing everything you can to keep your

00:33:41.860 circulatory system, your blood vessels clear, like netokinase, for instance, and Bromelain.

00:33:48.120 But anyway, back to Dr. Chandler. So he's called that set of serious changes in the body, which are

00:33:57.060 shown in autopsy reports, COVAX disease. It's a coinage. And in the autopsies that he has looked at,

00:34:05.900 the deaths came with so much causal relationship to the injection, that he's concluding that it is,

00:34:15.660 and the pathologist in Germany also concluded that it's due to the injection.

00:34:19.740 Naomi, you spoke of how the vaccine adversely affected women, pregnant women. Why don't we also

00:34:30.460 talk about in terms of gender? Did we not bear witness to a disproportionate number of young,

00:34:38.720 very healthy males that were literally, and some of them were elite athletes, just dropping dead

00:34:45.640 shortly after getting the vaccine? What is going on there?

00:34:50.600 Unfortunately, I think I can tell you. Well, first, physiologically, I mean, let's face it, right?

00:34:58.400 Babies didn't used to have strokes. In the Pfizer papers, there's a seven-year-old girl who had a

00:35:03.380 stroke upon being injected. She's in England, and her death is buried in a footnote, right? Like,

00:35:08.840 we've never seen this in our lifetimes. This doesn't happen. You know, teenagers with turbo cancers who

00:35:14.740 are fine one day and dead four months later. It's never happened in our, you know, in our memory,

00:35:21.660 even, in the West. And it's happening now. And as you mentioned, many elite athletes have dropped dead.

00:35:28.640 Many performers have dropped dead while performing. My friend, Dr. Mark Crispin Miller of NYU has a

00:35:35.820 substat column called Died Suddenly, and he chronicles the deaths around the world. So that's

00:35:42.840 physiologically, Dr. Peter McCullough explained it to me. The, when there's a surge of adrenaline in a

00:35:50.380 compromised heart muscle, that can cause cardiac arrhythmia, that can cause a sudden death,

00:35:58.000 people dropping dead. And so when people die in their sleep, which never used to happen,

00:36:04.520 it's because shortly before you wake up, there's a surge of adrenaline in your system,

00:36:08.900 and that now the heart can't handle it because the heart is compromised by these injections,

00:36:13.360 right? And so there's cardiac compromise. And Dr. Chandler's slides will show you exactly what that

00:36:21.720 looks like, right? The lipid nanoparticles basically penetrate the heart, right? Muscle,

00:36:26.840 they penetrate everything. So they, what that does is the heart conducts electricity in order to keep

00:36:33.940 eating regularly. And the lipid nanoparticles degrade the nervous system. And as I mentioned,

00:36:39.560 they penetrate the heart, the spike penetrates the heart. And so it's that system of receiving the

00:36:46.540 electrical impulses is compromised by the injection. And so you're more vulnerable to that surge of

00:36:51.880 adrenaline just taking you out. But there's another thing, unbelievably, and this is my original reporting

00:36:56.940 that, you know, it's one of the most important stories of my career, but the saddest. I looked into

00:37:04.400 who created the injection because I've covered, you know, wars my whole career. And if you, and I learned

00:37:15.480 as a political consultant to Clinton's re-election campaign and to Vice President Gore, that you read,

00:37:21.800 you should read news events backwards. You should look at whom they benefit and then move back because

00:37:28.620 the story never matches the goal. Follow the money, in other words. Pretty much, yes. So this, you know,

00:37:34.760 this looked to me like a war on the West. And, and especially in the Pfizer documents, 42,000 plus

00:37:41.700 adverse events, 36,000 are in North America. The next largest tranche is in Western Europe in order of

00:37:51.040 political importance. So, you know, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy, right? And all the

00:37:58.540 rest of the world combined, 52 countries amount to only 7,000 adverse events. So it's not randomly

00:38:05.100 distributed. It's disproportionately taking out the West. So what's happened in the last four years in

00:38:12.420 Canada, I came through immigration, you know, it's literally, I could just stay here forever. It looks

00:38:18.420 like, you know, it's so easy to immigrate. And you could be put up in a three-star hotel in Niagara Falls.

00:38:24.360 It looks great. It looks great. It looks very tempting. You'll never get rid of me. But, you know, in the U.S.,

00:38:31.060 15 to 30 million people were transported by the U.N. and by the State Department, we've now confirmed, into our

00:38:38.500 country, supported by our tax dollars, you know, housed in luxury hotels in Midtown. Well, so this is an act of war.

00:38:47.120 You take out the population, and I'm the daughter and granddaughter of immigrants, right? I believe in legal

00:38:52.180 immigration set by national boundaries, by the population, levels set by the population in a republic or a

00:38:58.880 democracy. But you take out the West, you take out the superpower of the United States, which China said they want to be

00:39:06.680 done with by 2049. They want to be the world's hegemon. You take out Canada, you take out people who remember the

00:39:15.700 Charter of Rights, or who remember the Constitution. You replace them with people from, and no disrespect to

00:39:22.940 people from other countries, but Azerbaijan, Yemen, you know, countries with no tradition of human rights,

00:39:31.860 no tradition of representational government. And there you have it. You know, then you get your kind

00:39:38.820 of feudalist, technocratic, world economic forum, you know, paradise. So that's what's happening. And

00:39:46.260 just to tell you, if I may, and I'll stop, I promise, Pfizer's BioNTech injection is not made by

00:39:54.020 Pfizer, a German company. It's made by China in an MOU with Pfizer, that led Fosin Pharmaceutical,

00:40:02.320 the CCP's biggest pharmaceutical company to make a billion doses for export. They exported them 11

00:40:11.040 distribution sites in Western Europe, 14 in North America. And that's why people are dropping dead,

00:40:18.080 because our existential adversary is in charge of formulating, manufacturing, packaging, distributing,

00:40:24.680 and injecting the West. And lastly, I promise it is very easy to take people out specifically with

00:40:35.080 this injection. So I'm very interested in the fact that leaders have dropped dead, mayors have dropped

00:40:40.280 dead, athletes and entertainers have dropped dead, because it's very easy to do that. And that's why they

00:40:45.400 want a vaccine registry. You know, it's so easy to do that with things as simple as temperature or

00:40:51.240 dosage, with Moderna being three times more lethal than Pfizer, for instance.

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00:41:22.280 You know, the China connection is fascinating and yet more shame, I would argue, for our outgoing

00:41:28.760 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who in 2013 said he admired China. He admired the basic dictatorship

00:41:37.880 in terms of getting things done. And if what you're saying is accurate, well, another scathing

00:41:45.320 rebuttal to admiring a foreign dictatorship, I should think. But you know, Naomi, I know the haters

00:41:52.760 watching this video, based on what you just said, they're screaming conspiracy theorists. What do you

00:41:59.480 say to that? You know, in 2025, I'm so tired of people not noticing that, A, every conspiracy theory

00:42:09.480 allegedly that I've presented to the public has come true. And B, those of us who paid attention

00:42:15.560 and checked the sourcing of those conspiracy theorists are the ones who are surviving well.

00:42:21.960 Well said. I mean, at this stage, I don't know what a conspiracy theory is anymore.

00:42:26.840 But critical thinking or a hypothesis. But the dropping dead thing, I did want to say for those

00:42:34.120 who are, you know, saying conspiracy theory, look at the SEC filing, which is public record in 2021.

00:42:39.800 And it says the SEC filing for BioNTech, giving the IP to China, it says to China, not to an individual

00:42:47.960 or a company in China, but to China. It basically says falling from a height suddenly is one of the

00:42:55.960 the side effects of the injection. So they knew that people would fall so hard they could kill

00:43:01.320 themselves. And some people I know of are dying from the fall. Unbelievable. Naomi, let's talk about

00:43:08.040 the PREP Act. The PREP Act, I think, has created a culture of impunity in vaccine development and

00:43:15.720 deployment. Should it be reformed or outright repealed? It should certainly be repealed. There's no way to

00:43:22.760 reform it. It's a very bad law. And interestingly, I have a platform called BillCam, which I developed

00:43:30.440 so anyone could share state or federal bills. And there are some very good bills already proposed

00:43:37.240 that would get rid of the PREP Act. But basically, what the PREP Act does for a Canadian audience who's

00:43:41.800 not familiar with it, is it makes it impossible to sue pharmaceutical companies for the damage they're

00:43:47.160 doing? And that gives them impunity and an incentive to keep rolling out dangerous or deadly injections,

00:43:53.960 because there's nothing, there's no risk. And you know, I think that was part of the quid pro quo,

00:43:59.880 if you will, Naomi. As we mentioned earlier, it takes, you know, 10 years, five years, if you're lucky,

00:44:05.640 to develop a vaccine. So maybe the pharmaceutical companies realized that we are getting into a

00:44:13.160 potential deadly and legal liability quagmire. We need some caveat that gives us impunity.

00:44:23.640 Don't think it's worked out that well for just about anyone, unless of course, well,

00:44:28.520 yeah, I was just going to say, unless you're the CEO of the likes of Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson,

00:44:33.320 Moderna, etc. So is there any likelihood that the PREP Act will indeed be put into a paper shredder?

00:44:46.680 There's something else that pharma does in the US. I don't think you have the same problem here,

00:44:52.840 because so much of your media is funded by the government. But in the US, pharma funds our media,

00:44:57.960 our legacy media. So that's why it's been only alternative media that's been able to cover this

00:45:02.680 biggest story of the 21st century, if not, you know, recorded history. Because all the other

00:45:10.600 news outlets took the money and took money, millions buried in the CARES Act, and millions from the Bill

00:45:18.360 and Melinda Gates Foundation to do to overcome vaccine hesitancy. So, so we're the only country,

00:45:24.920 the US plus New Zealand that allows direct to consumer marketing of pharmaceuticals. So a very

00:45:30.120 important law or addendum to reversing the PREP Act would be to make that illegal, as it is in other

00:45:35.480 countries. Okay, so we just elected a new president. Maha, Make America Healthy Again, and RFK Jr.'s voters,

00:45:44.520 of whom I am one, made that possible. The Republicans will never have the numbers without those swing voters.

00:45:52.360 And by rights, we should have representation, if RFK Jr. is confirmed, which we don't know yet, to have an

00:46:05.160 advocate in there who would push for reversal of the PREP Act, which would have to come from Congress.

00:46:09.960 I don't know if that will happen. Because, because Americans and Canadians too have to get rid of a

00:46:20.120 fallacy. Americans in our system believe all you have to do is elect your guy, and then you get your

00:46:26.280 wish list. And that's just not true. And it's, that's what they want you to believe, because they

00:46:30.280 want you to go back to the couch after an election. But we can repeal the PREP Act, but it takes organized,

00:46:37.720 persistent advocacy of every citizen, badgering their elected official, asking for meetings with

00:46:44.360 their state representative, asking people to sponsor these mini-bills that are in the database,

00:46:51.720 you know, threatening political consequences, and warning President Trump. And I will say it right now,

00:46:57.400 I endorsed him, which is the shock of my life. You know, as a lifelong Democrat, I advocated for

00:47:06.280 him and for RFK Jr. to join forces early on in essays on Substack. I will say Maha can go away.

00:47:14.920 And if Maha doesn't get its, some of its key wish lists, I know in politics you don't get everything,

00:47:21.320 PREP Act has got to go if you want to win another election in the United States Republicans.

00:47:27.640 But it's up to us.

00:47:28.440 You know, I find it fascinating what you're saying, Naomi, because, as you said, a lifelong Democrat,

00:47:35.000 you worked on the Clinton and Gore campaigns. Are you maybe...

00:47:39.080 I advised them. I didn't just work on them. I advised them.

00:47:42.280 Gotcha. Would you identify as, say, a Democrat or a former Democrat that would subscribe to the saying,

00:47:51.560 uh, I didn't leave the Democratic Party, uh, the Democrats left me?

00:47:55.960 I certainly resonate with that. I do. I have no idea who these people are. They're, they're,

00:48:03.320 like, insane Marxists from another planet. This is not my grandmother's Democratic Party.

00:48:08.360 But I still consider myself a classical liberal, which, you know, seems to exist among three or four

00:48:13.800 people, you know, in the United States. I mean, I can...

00:48:16.840 I would argue a classical liberal is now a conservative.

00:48:19.560 I guess. I mean, yes, but no. There's still things I'm not on board for. I think conservatives

00:48:25.000 respectfully make some mistakes, critically around, well, three issues. I think you have to have some

00:48:30.120 reasonable access to abortion in the first trimester. You have to, if you're going to have,

00:48:35.480 you know, a functional society, as sad as that is. You have to have an environmental policy. You have to.

00:48:41.080 It doesn't have to be their environmental policy, but you have to save the planet in some way.

00:48:44.920 And there are plenty of conservative ways to do that. And lastly, get over the gay stuff.

00:48:50.280 Like, seriously. Like, that didn't used to be a conservative issue. Ronald Reagan was not anti-gay,

00:48:55.560 you know. So I know there are legitimate, like, trans men and women's spaces issues that are civil

00:49:01.400 rights issues that I'm on board with debating. But I don't know when, you know, hating gay people

00:49:07.800 became a conservative thing. I wish that the right wing would abandon it. And also, like,

00:49:15.240 God bless you for being Christians if you're Christian, but we in the United States don't

00:49:20.920 have an established religion. We have freedom of religion. So it would be lovely if they would,

00:49:26.440 you know, celebrate Jesus Christ and, you know, celebrate the fact that we don't have a state

00:49:30.840 religion as well. You know, I really question, though. Political consulting. Sorry.

00:49:35.640 I question, Naomi, how many conservatives, you know, take a negative view to sexual orientation as

00:49:44.520 opposed to gender identification. And I go back to where the feminists, we see biological men

00:49:51.240 passing themselves off as trans women, going into female safe spaces, bathrooms, change rooms,

00:49:57.960 sporting teams, prisons here in Canada. And to the detriment of real biological women. What are your

00:50:08.040 views on that? Oh, God. Well, you know, I wrote my doctoral thesis on the history of the

00:50:16.360 gay rights movement. And so I guess the first thing I would say is that this is a complete anomaly.

00:50:23.640 And I don't think it's organic. You know, I've known trans people, trans, that's an invented term.

00:50:29.720 The term used to be transvestite or transsexual. And trans was literally invented like five years ago.

00:50:36.440 And it has no real meaning, right? Like trans youth literally has no real meaning. When you look it up,

00:50:41.880 it's like, are you uncomfortable with traditional gender roles? Everyone's uncomfortable with

00:50:46.440 traditional gender roles, right? But it's a neologism made up to, I believe, by the same

00:50:53.080 people who are responsible for stripping Canada and Austria and England of their national flags. Like,

00:50:59.080 I see so few Canadian flags compared with last time I was here. You know, all...

00:51:03.720 Come here in June and you will see a sea of rainbow flags.

00:51:06.760 I know you guys are facing the destruction of your national monuments and national histories that's

00:51:14.520 going on throughout the West. The drama of men dressed as women who identify as trans,

00:51:22.840 demanding access to private female spaces is completely, I believe, artificial, spun up,

00:51:31.080 probably funded to destabilize and divide our nations. I don't think it is organically from the

00:51:38.120 LGBTQ community. It's become its own thing through a lot of actually non-profits who are whipping this

00:51:46.760 discourse up. But literally no trans sexual or transvestite man who wanted to dress and be taken

00:51:56.840 as a woman that I knew before 2020 ever wanted to cause disrespect, discomfort,

00:52:04.280 distress to biological women. That was not part of transsexual people's culture at all.

00:52:10.520 You know, this is fascinating because, you know, I'm all about freedom. And I mean,

00:52:14.360 if you're a man that wants to go through life pretending to be a woman or vice versa,

00:52:18.760 and you're living in suburbia and you're going about your life, that's fine. But if you are,

00:52:23.960 say, a male getting involved in contact sports with a female and injuring them and breaking the

00:52:30.600 rules of the world governing body, let's face it, with the exception of auto racing and equestrian,

00:52:36.920 males and females have always been divided into separate divisions for obvious biological

00:52:42.600 reasons. Well, that's where I draw the line. I say that's wrong. I would think the feminists would

00:52:49.000 say that's wrong. They've literally got skin in the game. But we don't see any outcry. Why do you

00:52:54.840 think that is? Well, there's a lot of horrible names that women are called if they try to

00:53:05.480 speak up for traditional feminist championing of biological women. I actually hate to say biological

00:53:12.760 women because there's nothing wrong with just being a woman. You know, it should have to be qualified.

00:53:20.120 But I'll give you an example. I used to be a volunteer at a rape crisis center in Edinburgh,

00:53:24.840 Scotland, when I lived there. And it's, and I'm a rape survivor. And it's the most painful work you

00:53:33.080 could possibly do. And the women who are telling their stories are,

00:53:36.120 it takes the most extraordinary, you know, courage to tell those stories. And it was an all female

00:53:44.520 space because these women were traumatized. And, you know, pretty much everyone was traumatized by a

00:53:50.600 man. I'm not saying all men are rapists, but all these women were raped by men. And they needed to be

00:53:57.320 cared for by other women in an all female space. So the head of the rape crisis center now is a man,

00:54:03.320 you know, who's a trans person, whatever that means. And I can't imagine the emotional strain

00:54:15.080 of that. And also, God, this is a bigger conversation, but I don't think there's anything,

00:54:23.080 there's nothing discriminatory about acknowledging the fact that men and women are biologically

00:54:28.920 different. And if you want to dress like the opposite sex, or, you know, have modifications

00:54:34.840 to your body to resemble the opposite sex, God bless you. But I wrote a book called Vagina, and I looked

00:54:39.960 closely at sex differences. And, you know, they're in the brain. I'm not saying, like, the jury's out,

00:54:47.480 are men and women more different or more similar? But there's like, you can tell from the hips of a

00:54:52.680 skeleton, if it's male or female, like, you literally, you know, if you're a mom, and you're

00:54:57.880 lactating, your brain changes, you know, like, literally, you're, you know, when the baby's

00:55:02.520 nursing, it changes your brain, it changes the neural networks in your brain. There's nothing

00:55:07.800 wrong with that. And, and it's been sad to see this organized campaign that literally preys on women's

00:55:16.840 socialized niceness, to intimidate women from saying, No, these are our spaces, these are our

00:55:22.200 sports, it's all right to be a woman, you know, my identity is a woman, I get to have my tribe of

00:55:28.520 women, you know, you wear a beautiful dress, God bless you, I'll see you look lovely. But you know,

00:55:33.800 there's nothing wrong with being a woman. So but we've been badgered about that. I mean, look what

00:55:39.160 happened to JK Rowling, who, I have to say, I used to think she was really wrong. I used to think the

00:55:44.600 people who are making a fuss about cross dressing men in women's bathrooms were really messed up,

00:55:51.480 you know, fanatic goal, right wing, Christian white nationalists who couldn't handle diversity.

00:55:57.640 I've, I've come to see that this is a true psyop. And it's aimed at breaking down

00:56:05.240 social order, it's aimed at breaking down women's sense of safety, it's breaking down the sacred

00:56:09.640 feminine, really, I'll just say it like that. And I've learned in these four years,

00:56:13.880 what they target is what we need to cherish most, because they know something we don't know.

00:56:19.240 Like women must be really special and good if they're trying so hard to erase them.

00:56:24.680 You know, it's fascinating. I go as far as saying this is a war on women.

00:56:29.080 Oh, it's a total war on women.

00:56:30.600 And you know, I can tell you a quick anecdote. Last summer, I covered the three day trial of

00:56:34.440 someone in Windsor, Ontario, his name is Cody Detremont. He started to identify as a female. I mean,

00:56:40.920 he's got facial hair, he's got all his male equipment, took on the name Desiree Anderson,

00:56:47.160 got into a shelter where he allegedly raped a woman. I covered the trial. The female judge said

00:56:55.240 about the alleged victim that she found her credible, but not reliable. I'm still scratching

00:57:02.440 my head about that. Cody Detremont was found not guilty. And I'm not kidding you, Naomi. And I think

00:57:09.800 this speaks to the mental illness of some of these people. This man who became a woman is now identifying

00:57:17.160 as a cat. I mean, again, I think a lot of these narratives are spun up to destabilize Canadian

00:57:24.520 and American and British society. So who's, who's paying that person, you know, like, for example,

00:57:33.000 the way a lot of these men who are dressing as women look, transsexual or transvestite women

00:57:40.760 pre 2020 never looked like that. Right. So but I guess I'll now speak just as a woman.

00:57:49.480 Um, anyone like I don't know a woman who hasn't suffered some kind of sexual assault. I just don't

00:57:55.800 know any woman who hasn't really like women in the room. Right? Do you know any woman who hasn't

00:58:03.480 suffered some kind of sexual assault? Yeah. I mean, it's it's like, it's so rare. It's heartbreaking to

00:58:10.040 hear that. But but I take you at your word. Welcome to reality. But I'm sorry, I don't mean

00:58:15.240 to be rude. But but this is this is our reality, right? So we know about predators. So now create

00:58:21.240 a social condition in which the the government says, all you have to do predators is say you're

00:58:28.520 a woman, right? And you can go be in the women's prison being the predator instead of the possible

00:58:34.840 rape victim in the male prison. You can go be in the rape crisis center getting to, you know, whatever,

00:58:41.320 intruding. Like, how can I put it? Predators love intruding on women and making them uncomfortable.

00:58:46.040 We know this, right? We've we like, I'm not even talking about sexual assault. Every woman has probably

00:58:52.200 dozens of examples of a teacher or a doctor or a dentist or, you know, whatever, making them that

00:58:59.400 little bit uncomfortable because it turns them on. You know, that's so standard, right? And so now you

00:59:06.200 give any man who wants to do that carte blanche to do it. What a thrill. I mean, I've seen like I used

00:59:12.760 to think big deal of you know, a transsexual woman is using women's bathroom big deal be a grown up.

00:59:18.600 But I've seen these videos of people men who literally put on a wig and are clearly, you know,

00:59:25.080 having an erotic experience intimidating women and girls walking into the women's bathroom.

00:59:31.160 And also how unsafe it is. Any of us as women who have traveled alone know that when you're pulling

00:59:36.840 up to use a restroom in at night in a gas station, you know, it's already dangerous. And if there's a

00:59:45.160 man dressed as a woman in that bathroom, it's like off the charts dangerous. So this is just like a big

00:59:53.320 psyop to traumatize women, I think, ultimately, if you look at the big picture. And the thing AI can

00:59:59.160 do, which is so interesting, is AI, and this is what we see in a lot of like these incremental

01:00:04.040 changes, incremental changes, is it can make it be step by step by step by step. This isn't human

01:00:09.800 reasoning, right? Oh, first use the bathroom, then go into the sports teams, then, you know, chest feed.

01:00:16.040 This is AI, right? This is like creating a script, how do you break down women? Oh, do it bit by bit by bit

01:00:22.200 like this?

01:00:22.840 One last point on this subject, Naomi. What do you feel about Donald Trump saying there are only

01:00:29.480 two genders? And in all likelihood, I guess he's going to restore Title IX to its original mandate

01:00:35.960 in terms of female scholarships, that you're a biological female as opposed to saying,

01:00:41.160 a man saying, I identify as a woman. What are your thoughts?

01:00:44.520 Well, again, going back to eighth grade biology, it's my understanding that there are

01:00:52.920 X-X's and X-Y's, and sometimes people can have an extra chromosome. So X-X-Y, X-Y-Y, I believe.

01:00:59.800 But that there are two genders. Sometimes babies can be born with indeterminate genitalia, but that's

01:01:10.280 incredibly rare. And still, biologically, they're male or female. So then their genitalia can be,

01:01:22.120 you know, surgically altered, which I think is a difficult, ethical decision to conform with their

01:01:29.960 biological identity. I think those are very personal decisions. But it's my understanding

01:01:36.760 from brain science and reproductive science that there are two genders. And we know this in the animal

01:01:43.960 kingdom, right? We're like, there's a male, there's a rooster, there's like, we're not, we're not having

01:01:49.960 these discussions about any species other than human beings. And so it seems thoroughly imaginary to me.

01:01:58.200 And, and also, how can I put this? If there weren't two genders, I wouldn't, you know, half of,

01:02:09.800 how can I, I need to say this right. But if one could wish gender away, half of the world wouldn't

01:02:16.120 be physically afraid of the other half. Fascinating. Let's get back to the Pfizer papers.

01:02:23.400 Naomi, you made mention of the mainstream media. I'm curious what your thoughts are on the mainstream

01:02:31.560 media, the lens they went to, to shaping public misconceptions about the vaccine.

01:02:39.800 Um, you know, I, I, I believe there's a, an incredible clip. It's about five or seven minutes long.

01:02:45.800 Uh, it's a stitching together of a two second phrase, uh, brought to you by Pfizer and showing

01:02:54.920 a litany of us talk shows, sporting events, dramas, you name it, where, uh, the chief advertiser is Pfizer.

01:03:04.760 Um, is this all about a matter? Um, and I think you alluded to it of, um, follow the money that the

01:03:11.880 mainstream media does not want to bite the hand that feeds. And certainly big pharma has billions of

01:03:19.480 dollars of advertising dollars to spend. Uh, I mean, certainly the mainstream media doesn't want to

01:03:25.720 bite the hand that feeds it. Can you imagine this juicy story? 450,000 documents

01:03:33.960 released under court order showing catastrophic attacks on the whole population, massive corruption

01:03:41.240 leading up to the White House. And every time I'm on War Room, Steve Bannon's platform, I offer it

01:03:48.120 to the Washington Post and the New York Times. And I've, they've never taken, they've never even

01:03:52.520 covered the book. Biggest story of our time. Like you're a journalist. This is juicy. Whatever you

01:03:57.960 think about Pfizer or, you know, the White House or Biden or Trump, this is a big, juicy Pulitzer

01:04:04.360 prize level story. Nothing crickets. It's because of the money. Uh, so it would be very good for democracy.

01:04:11.240 If, um, RFK Jr. can, God willing, if he gets confirmed, um, you know, lead a charge to

01:04:20.040 make it illegal to subsidize, uh, media with pharmaceutical advertising. Oh, that's fascinating.

01:04:27.320 What would, do you think that would violate any, uh, aspect of the First Amendment? Not, I mean,

01:04:33.160 we have legislation like that related to, for instance, cigarettes and cigarettes used to fund

01:04:37.800 a lot of media and then it was, um, made illegal to do direct to consumer marketing for cigarettes.

01:04:46.440 I would need to look at, I mean, I am a free speech absolutist, but I think

01:04:52.600 constitutionally it's, there's been a precedent that you can restrict certain kinds of advertising.

01:04:57.240 You know, and, um, I'm old enough to remember the days when, uh, Camel had an ad campaign where,

01:05:03.720 uh, the camel was like a, a child-friendly Disney-like character. Why would they do that?

01:05:10.840 Indeed. Indeed. Very cynical. Very cynical. Absolutely. Yeah, no, I mean, they need future smokers.

01:05:19.080 Naomi, uh, beyond the U.S., how do you see the global implications of, uh, big pharma, especially,

01:05:26.280 uh, when there are pandemics, uh, we're out of the woods with this one, but they keep hinting that

01:05:33.560 another one is coming. So I, I guess, um, given what people live through, do you think that people

01:05:42.840 are a little more cynical, shall we say? If there is another global pandemic, will they be, even the

01:05:49.160 people that got vaccinated and had their boosters, will they be that gung ho, um, to get with the

01:05:56.360 mandates? Uh, yeah, I certainly, I mean, I certainly hope so. Um, I think friends of mine here in Canada

01:06:05.960 have said that Canadians were traumatized by the lockdowns and the abuses of them by the government,

01:06:11.480 um, Canadian citizens being beaten by police, having their bank accounts frozen, uh, your charter of

01:06:17.880 rights, freedom of assembly suspended, um, horrible lockdowns like I'd never seen. I mean, I would

01:06:24.040 interview people in Canada during 2021, 2022, and they were literally, I couldn't believe what

01:06:29.560 they were going through. I can't believe what Canadian school children went through. I mean,

01:06:32.760 I write about this in my book, you know, made to eat on the ground. I mean, I don't like what,

01:06:37.000 what is that? So I think that your whole country was, um, systematically abused, like a battered wife,

01:06:45.080 kind of abused, traumatized. Uh, I'm just gonna say something if you don't mind about Canadians.

01:06:50.520 They're so nice. No, but I'm going somewhere with this. I've always loved Canada and I've always

01:06:55.880 loved Canadians and I've always felt like Canada was like a sane version of the United States.

01:07:00.200 Um, but, and I've always admired Canadians kind of cultural civility and, um, calmness and desire

01:07:09.640 to talk things out and not have a fight. I will just be very lovingly honest. I think in the last

01:07:16.360 few years with the lockdowns and the mandates, that cultural orientation, um,

01:07:25.480 I don't want to say betrayed the country, but made it difficult to resist.

01:07:30.120 Well, you know, anyway, we, we spoke about this off camera before the interview began.

01:07:34.360 I think our two nations, the U S and Canada, we, we were cut from different cloth. We have different DNA.

01:07:40.200 Your nation was born out of revolution. Uh, what happened after the revolution? We had so many

01:07:45.960 Americans who were called United empire loyalists coming north to Canada. They wanted the crown.

01:07:52.120 They wanted big government. They don't want to revolt or rebel. So maybe it's in our inherent DNA that,

01:07:59.000 um, we'll be more accepting, uh, of mandates like this as opposed to Americans.

01:08:04.600 That's a fascinating suggestion. And I, I think there's probably truth to it. I didn't know that

01:08:09.880 part of Canadian history, but that's really, really interesting. And it makes sense. Um,

01:08:15.640 yeah, we came out of revolution and yeah, if, if that was a kind of weeding out of the people who

01:08:22.600 are comfortable with revolution, the people who like an orderly society subject to authority,

01:08:27.960 um, that would make sense. I don't want to generalize about Canadians because I know some

01:08:31.480 real fighters here. Uh, but, but that's interesting. Anyway, I don't mean to be like

01:08:37.640 painting Canadians with a broad brush. I'm just saying you guys have been

01:08:41.080 very badly traumatized. I can feel it. I can feel, um, even in my day and a half back here

01:08:47.800 after not having been here for maybe five years, uh, a kind of, um, surveillance society

01:08:56.520 having been put in place, uh, kind of 15 minute city type, um, control grid being put in place

01:09:04.680 in many ways. And, you know, I mentioned AI can do it bit by bit by bit. It's so incremental,

01:09:10.520 incremental, whether it's my driver's phones shrieking when we left a certain perimeter,

01:09:16.280 leaving the airport, uh, because he left his area, you know, to the camera that he said the insurance

01:09:23.240 required him to have that has a sensor that when he touches his phone, it says, don't pick up your

01:09:28.040 phone or slow down or the stories that our friends here were telling us about, um, what happens to you

01:09:33.160 if you, you know, don't stop at a yellow light. I mean, this all is in the name of public safety,

01:09:38.920 keeping us safe, fighting fraud. It's all terrifying to me, um, because it's such a nice way to have

01:09:48.280 a population that can't resist, right? It's so, um, iron fist and velvet glove.

01:09:55.720 And, you know, I, I, that is indeed a cliche of Canadians. Uh, you'll bump into them and we'll

01:10:01.080 say we're sorry. Um, but I, by the same token, going back to the COVID-19, uh, pandemic, I think that

01:10:09.720 millions of Canadians feel betrayed. And if we look at the trucker convoy, um, that was all about

01:10:17.240 during the early stages of the pandemic. Remember the, uh, truckers, they are the frontline heroes.

01:10:23.800 Everything you buy at a supermarket, a pharmacy, the gas you get at a gas station, it came via a truck.

01:10:30.120 And then when the vaccine mandates were rolled out, you either get the vaccine or you're fired.

01:10:36.120 So the frontline heroes were turned into zeros. They were vilified. They were demonized.

01:10:42.600 We had Chrystia Freeland, the deputy PM who seeks to become the prime minister, um, coercing the banks

01:10:50.680 to freeze the bank accounts of Canadians who donated money to the trucker convoy as an American.

01:10:58.040 What, what do you make of that? I mean, it's terrifying. It's, it's, I, we watched it.

01:11:03.160 If one reason we were able to fight, inspired to fight so hard, the ones who resisted in

01:11:10.520 South of here is watching Canada. It was in watching Australia. I mean, it was such a

01:11:16.120 Petri dish for what lay ahead if, you know, if we didn't defeat it. Um, I'll never forget

01:11:24.840 watching people who didn't look like Canadian police. They looked like the same kind of mercenary

01:11:31.800 type builds, like global special operators that were beating protesters in France and beating

01:11:37.720 protesters in Australia. You know, they didn't look like Canadian police. I, I've seen Canadian

01:11:42.040 police. They're lovely people. You know, these seemed like God knows what, you know, you couldn't

01:11:46.760 see their faces. You couldn't see their, they're wearing black, like beatings Canadian citizens, like

01:11:53.000 savagely. And it, it sent a message for sure. I think it sent a message to the rest of Canada and

01:11:58.520 the rest of the West and North America. And also I will never forget. And I told you before the camera

01:12:04.360 started rolling, it affected me and my family very much. The freezing of the, um, truckers bank accounts,

01:12:12.760 this scented shell throughout everybody, we could all be debanked. Right. And so I literally transferred,

01:12:19.400 you know, what, what liquid assets I had into non-liquid assets because of watching

01:12:24.360 the debanking of the truckers. And I mentioned to you, uh, that someone from a major news outlet,

01:12:29.800 I'm not sure if I said it in this interview, called me and asked me if I donated money to the truckers.

01:12:35.480 So it was the whole control grid right there. Did you resist? We're going to freeze your account.

01:12:43.080 Did you protest? We're going to beat you in front of the, you know, eyewitnessing of all your fellow

01:12:48.200 nationals. Um, did you even give to support these people? You know, you're on the list,

01:12:52.840 we can see who you are, we can trace you, we can track you. It's, it's absolutely terrifying.

01:12:57.800 And I think it was a turning point for Canada. Um, I don't think Canada could, uh, come back from that

01:13:05.800 without a massive restructuring of your system of, um, holding elected officials accountable,

01:13:12.520 your legal system. Uh, there's, there's, you have so little recourse in your system because

01:13:19.880 it seems like, how do you lobby parliament? I don't know. How do you bring lawsuits? I don't know. You

01:13:25.000 know, it, it's more opaque than the United States, uh, getting recourse if someone abuses the human

01:13:31.320 rights of a Canadian or violates the charter of rights, which is not as strong as it should be.

01:13:35.880 So I think that that was a demonstration to all Canadians and really all North Americans that you

01:13:41.800 can be broken in a heartbeat and incarcerated. I mean, people are still facing 10 years in prison

01:13:47.720 for lawful peaceful protest protected by the charter of rights from what I understand. So it's super scary.

01:13:55.560 I was scared coming in. Honestly, I'm, I'm scared leaving. I didn't bring my computer because,

01:14:00.760 you know, my husband let me know that they can suck all your data out of your computer when you're

01:14:05.080 coming into the country. It's not the free, beautiful, proud, patriotic society with a strong

01:14:10.600 middle class that I loved so much. Um, it's been badly bruised and beaten through no fault of its own.

01:14:18.040 And I guess what we're going to do tonight is try to figure out, you know, what, what recourse is

01:14:22.440 there? What leverage points are there that are still left? Because nothing without resistance,

01:14:28.920 it's only going to get worse.

01:14:30.600 I think that's a very accurate assessment of our country. And I guess, you know, you've been so generous

01:14:36.680 with your time, Naomi. One last question. I think what happened during the COVID-19 pandemic,

01:14:44.040 it was injustice and justice should be done. So I have a two prong question. What the first is,

01:14:51.240 what do you make of, uh, now former president Joe Biden, giving, uh, Dr. Fauci, uh, a preemptive

01:14:59.400 pardon? Going back to 2014. Um, well, you pardon criminals, you know, you don't pardon innocent

01:15:08.360 people. Uh, but, but let's be clear. Uh, Dr. Fauci said, I appreciate the pardon, but he said,

01:15:14.360 I didn't do anything illegal. He still accepted it. Yes. Uh, everything he did was illegal. Yeah. I,

01:15:22.120 I, we know that. I mean, look in the Pfizer papers, it's crime after crime, after crime,

01:15:27.640 after crime. And I'll tell you one thing I know he did in April of 2021. One of our lawyers did a

01:15:36.120 FOIA, uh, for the word myocarditis. And it turns out that the Israeli ministry of health and a

01:15:42.440 pediatric, um, cardiology association had warned the white house that young people and teenagers

01:15:49.240 were getting injured from with myocarditis from the injection. Instead of calling a halt,

01:15:54.840 issuing a press conference, telling parents, don't inject your healthy teenager, your healthy young

01:15:59.720 adult. Um, there was a freak out at the highest levels with Dr. Fauci on CC, Dr. Walensky on CC,

01:16:10.120 the white house, 15 white house staffers, including possibly POTUS, like a template that lifted up to

01:16:16.120 POTUS, meaning the president on CC. Um, and they coordinated a 17 page script to minimize the threat

01:16:25.160 of myocarditis. The script is a hundred percent redacted. Uh, Senator Johnson is working to unredact

01:16:30.280 the script and have hearings about this criminal, criminal, criminal. Teenagers died that summer

01:16:35.720 when, you know, all you heard from the white house was vaccinate your teen. They hired influencers

01:16:40.920 to reach out to teens. Teens were boasting on social media. They got vaccinated. Fauci knew

01:16:46.760 that this would kill teenagers. So boom, Dr. Fauci, you're guilty. Shameful. And the second, uh, part of

01:16:53.640 my question, and we briefly alluded to it earlier, Naomi, um, what realistic steps can be taken to hold

01:17:02.520 Pfizer, the FDA accountable for these crimes? And I'm speaking maybe in civil court or do they, do they

01:17:11.720 all have caveats that, uh, they're not responsible for any negative side effects fallout from the

01:17:19.160 injections? Right. Well, we've got two lawsuits against Pfizer and the white house and the FDA.

01:17:26.520 One has resulted in no response from the Biden administration. It was a letter to the Justice

01:17:33.160 Department. One is still ongoing and there are causes of action on a civil level. I think many

01:17:39.960 criminal causes of action, that's up to state attorneys general. But, um, our lawyers have found

01:17:45.720 RICO violations, trafficking, fraud, and, um, a lot of false advertising. So there's lots to,

01:17:54.440 lots to sue for in spite of the prep act. It's, you know, a change in president makes a big difference.

01:18:02.520 It, it remains to be seen if, if Trump will, you know, take the hits from, uh, an industry that funds

01:18:12.280 both sides of the aisle. Right. I, I'm apprehensive. I'm worried about it. I don't see how he can,

01:18:18.280 honestly, knowing how politics works, but it's up to citizens to press their cases. And they've,

01:18:23.640 there've been some real victories, for instance, BART workers in San Francisco who were mandated to

01:18:29.480 take the vaccine, won millions in a settlement. Um, I'm in discussions now with an unnamed social

01:18:36.760 media platform for a settlement for censoring me. That's not the same as for the vaccine,

01:18:41.400 but it was censoring me about the vaccine. Um,

01:18:44.120 you'd rather not name the media platform. I'd love to, but you can guess. Um, yeah. Um,

01:18:52.440 there are, there are many lawsuits and, and, and some have been successful. I interviewed a,

01:18:59.160 a lawyer in, um, Vermont who is suing the state government for, uh, forcing a six-year-old child

01:19:09.080 to be vaccinated against his parents will. Uh, so there, and CHD has many lawsuits. So there are

01:19:15.080 many lawsuits at the state level. Um, and that's what you're going to see. It may not be going after

01:19:21.240 Pfizer cause that's very difficult, but you can go after officials who, um, broke the law in,

01:19:28.280 in coercing or mandating. Uh, so hope abounds.

01:19:31.240 Uh, you know, the battle abounds. I'm not going to say, you know, the hope is as, as hope is as good

01:19:37.480 as the battle is. Yeah. Naomi, uh, Wolf, what a wonderful interview. Thank you so much for being

01:19:44.840 so generous with your time. Uh, is there anything you would like to say to our viewers that I might

01:19:50.600 have missed that you feel relevant to the Pfizer papers and the whole vaccine mandate debate?

01:19:56.760 Well, yes, on the point of hope, I didn't fully answer your question. What, what about Pfizer's

01:20:02.520 policies worldwide? And so I do want to say, even though I personally am exhausted and cranky,

01:20:10.040 that, um, the fact that there are huge victories around the world, uh, you know, many countries have

01:20:16.760 withdrawn these injections for many sectors of their population in Britain, um, where they silenced me,

01:20:23.880 uh, as recently as in, um, um, over the summer, uh, in a, a courtroom in London when I was supporting

01:20:32.280 Mark Stein, who tried to break this story, uh, they're backtracking, they're saying we never

01:20:36.840 force people, uh, journalism is starting to cover the damage and our experts have testified to the

01:20:43.560 Australian parliament twice, to the Japanese government, um, to the Brazilian parliament that

01:20:48.840 they withdrew it from, from forcing children. So, you know, three years ago, that never would have

01:20:54.440 been imaginable. History does shift. We're having huge victories. Again, uptake is 1%. Um, there's 30%

01:21:02.440 of Americans don't want vaccines at all, which is a huge change in the atmosphere. Um, so I guess I would

01:21:09.480 just say, don't give up in Canada. This is really, I love you guys so much. I love Canada, beautiful

01:21:16.440 culture, beautiful country. Um, just fight for your country. You know, I, I know that, I know that brave

01:21:22.920 Canadians can, can get it all back, you know? Well, Naomi Wolf, thank you again for your time. Good luck with

01:21:29.000 your show, uh, tonight, your talk tonight, I should say. And folks, what can I tell you? I don't care

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Rebel News Podcast - February 05, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ EXCLUSIVE： Pfizer's COVID jabs were NOT 'safe and effective,' says activist Naomi Wolf

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