Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Face masks, lockdowns and no play-dates for his kids： what pushed David Freiheit to leave Canada

00:00:00.000 tonight you'll recognize him for his big hair and you'll love him for his legal views on freedom

00:00:20.860 a feature interview with david freiheit better known as viva fry it's december 28th and this

00:00:27.300 is the ezra levant show you know what during the darkest moments of the lockdown a lot of people

00:00:46.560 said ezra why don't you leave why don't you go to florida land of the free home of the brave why

00:00:53.300 don't you go somewhere where they're not locking us down and where soft creeping totalitarianism is

00:00:59.200 not the new national identity and a lot of other freedom oriented people were especially people

00:01:05.040 who had jobs that they could move with them obviously if you run a restaurant or a bar or

00:01:10.260 an establishment you are stuck with that establishment if you're a miner in a coal mine you can't move the

00:01:15.260 mine with you but these days in our information economy i mean a tv show i'm in front of a green

00:01:21.340 screen i happen to be in toronto canada but really if i were in miami would you know the difference

00:01:26.620 my answer then was i feel compelled to stay and fight i felt like the battle against the lockdowns

00:01:32.760 was something i had a duty i felt like i had to be the last man going down with the ship but i should

00:01:37.160 tell you that a number of our teammates who don't have a job description that requires them to be in

00:01:44.120 this city or that city they chose to move to florida our accountant moved to florida i still talk to him

00:01:51.540 on zoom and by phone all the time our social media boss he could do the job from anywhere in the world

00:01:57.800 he was just sick of living particularly in montreal the city of curfews you might remember him yankee

00:02:04.780 pollock he would go out in the streets filming the curfew and the police cracking down on anyone sick or

00:02:11.900 healthy vaxxed or unvaccinated who dared to go out in the streets he had enough and he moved and he's

00:02:17.140 happy about it well i stayed and fought but there was a great freedom oriented video blogger a vlogger

00:02:25.120 if you will who i think painfully considered this issue because he has deep roots in canada he loves

00:02:33.140 canada but how much does he have to suffer for that love and could he fight for freedom i mean he's a

00:02:39.680 man who cares about the world beyond our borders as well and so i'm talking to one of my favorite

00:02:45.300 canadians now and it hurts me but i understand why that i'm talking to him and he's in boca raton

00:02:53.900 florida and part of the reasons it hurts me is because it's so bloody cold up here and it's warm down

00:02:57.480 there let me introduce you to my friend david freiheit popularly known as viva fry great to see you

00:03:02.960 i i can imagine someone who loved montreal like you're a very montreal guy and you can tell a

00:03:09.940 montreal guy because he loves the city he loves the french and the english and the culture and the

00:03:14.280 history and and its place and fashion and restaurants it must have hurt for you to come to

00:03:20.760 the decision you had to leave yes i i love it some people think it's traitorous to leave your country

00:03:27.520 first of all it's not permanent i'm on a specific type of visa which is a a finite visa that i can

00:03:33.980 renew or i can decide to apply for permanent residence green card citizen status or whatever

00:03:38.980 i i love canada it's not even it's not a i love everything about canada i have canadians geography

00:03:45.780 the change of seasons but you know had i had no kids uh you know married with no kids i i would

00:03:53.220 have stayed it would have been the inconvenience to me uh would have been bearable but what we've

00:03:57.880 just lived through since 2020 and going forward in canada but in quebec in particular i've got three

00:04:04.320 kids and it's not a normal way for kids to grow up it's it's oppressive it's abusive it's psychologically

00:04:10.580 destructive if i had no kids i i would have stayed in canada you know no problem but when you see what

00:04:17.160 this type of lifestyle does to a kid where they go into a building and get uh an evil eye for thinking

00:04:23.020 that they're going to get in an elevator with another human being because children are vectors 1.00

00:04:26.700 and and and to be feared at all costs when they go to a a second cup on green avenue and see people

00:04:32.740 fighting with each other because they're standing too close to each other face masks lockdowns no

00:04:37.140 play dates no sleepovers it's not a way that children are are supposed to be brought up and i'll

00:04:42.160 reassess in a few years but uh in the interim couple all of that with federal bill c11 uh censoring the

00:04:49.740 internet which might cripple my ability to do what i do couple that with bill c16 out of the province

00:04:55.260 of quebec which removes eliminates parental supremacy from the youth protection act i mean you've got a

00:05:00.240 government that locks you down uh abuses your children and then claims ownership over them

00:05:04.200 i said at some point enough is enough uh we'll reassess and see if this if this i won't say sinking

00:05:10.580 ship but if this uh ship of canada that's taking on water doesn't right itself within the next few years

00:05:15.340 we'll reassess in three years yeah you know what even as i was talking about it i was thinking well

00:05:20.700 should i have gone like i i hope i didn't sound critical in fact i was just trying to explain my

00:05:25.920 own thinking is i i felt that rebel news i mean you talk about grand themes you talk a lot about the law

00:05:33.000 you interview you i mean even when you were in canada you interviewed americans about american legal

00:05:37.440 cases all the time montreal is so close to america geographically anyways and and i thought well why

00:05:43.420 didn't i go because you're right it was the kids who were the most punished kids who you know lost

00:05:49.840 years of of not just schooling but of so i mean you'll never if you were in grade 12 and your grade

00:05:55.720 12 year was canceled you'll never get that back the the camaraderie the prom um maybe a school trip

00:06:02.680 somewhere you will never get those moments back you can't redo your childhood and the depression

00:06:08.420 and like it it was a war against children you're exactly i sent my kids and my missus down to florida

00:06:16.600 for a bit just to get away from toronto during the darkest lockdown they were lonely they they came back

00:06:21.680 up but you're right and the crazy thing is everyone who left the old country whether it was italy or

00:06:28.140 russia or wherever your ancestors came from before they came to canada they would have said the same

00:06:33.540 things you said they would have said it's for my children they would if they my great great

00:06:37.820 grandfather came over from actually from ukraine in 1903 and he surely would have said i want my

00:06:43.980 kids to have a better for your life it's crazy that probably hundreds of thousands of canadians

00:06:50.460 left canada saying the same things that their grandparents said when they came here and as i'll

00:06:57.220 just clarify i didn't take offense to what oh i know you didn't i wish i just realized i may have

00:07:01.460 sounded prickly i didn't mean to sound prickly in fact there's a bit of jealousy in me uh because

00:07:06.060 you are in a freer place you're in the freest place in north america it's people don't understand

00:07:11.660 it's like when i when we started making the decision in my head it was when there was a vaccine passport

00:07:16.860 and luckily my kid was 12 and didn't need this to play soccer to go to school plays but my wife took 1.00

00:07:23.280 my kid to school when this vaccine passport was in effect in quebec and my kid was being asked to

00:07:28.960 show papers to play soccer outdoors after school luckily she was 12 and didn't have to show the 1.00

00:07:33.740 papers uh my mother my wife went to um uh the the school play and this kid's wearing face masks

00:07:40.640 doing plays and she said this is this is this is delusional this is abusive and and then we're like

00:07:46.140 okay well we have this we have the the luxury the freedom but also then the business opportunity came

00:07:51.940 up with the work that i'm doing for rumble which is which is actually what brought me to florida in

00:07:55.880 the first place rumble youtube's competitor which was you know based in canada as is now uh operating

00:08:02.420 in the u.s and lo and behold i mean they needed a lawyer i'm a lawyer and things worked out well

00:08:07.260 i didn't know you were affiliated with them you know i have a i should disclose i have a tiny teeny

00:08:11.840 tiny steak i bought a tiny couple of shares of rumble uh it's actually the only stock i own um because

00:08:18.360 i believed in i had the pleasure of meeting the guys you're right they were not not too far down the

00:08:22.840 street from us here in toronto and i think business opportunities would have made him leave

00:08:28.560 anyways because america is just the biggest market but but i tell you there was nothing

00:08:33.620 holding them in canada it was just so tough to live a normal life the way you described it

00:08:39.220 i think anyone who could get away did get away unfortunately most people that just wasn't an option

00:08:45.460 you mentioned you got this gig with rumble that would probably help get a guy into the states tell me

00:08:49.540 more about that because i love rumble we use it because i'm terrified of youtube censorship

00:08:54.380 first of all rumble is the future i mean it's the future of of video hosting they don't just i mean

00:09:01.260 chris pobloski the ceo this is not an ad for rumble and i'll give you a full disclosure i don't own any

00:09:06.220 shares in rumble because when i uh when when they brought me on to review their their terms of service

00:09:11.380 community guidelines to draft them as they would apply um i said if i buy stock it's gonna even if i buy

00:09:16.660 for myself because i believe in the company it will look fishy and i'm just not even entering that

00:09:21.520 realm of of perception um so i own no stock in them but i'm do we're working on drafting the terms

00:09:27.420 of service i have an exclusive agreement with with rumble um you know they were based out of canada

00:09:33.560 but it's becoming it's becoming impossible to to conceivably do business in canada and if bill c11

00:09:39.980 passes it will be impossible for for rumble to operate in canada but the company is walking the

00:09:45.920 walk and talking the talk when for example france says take down rt the way the canadian government

00:09:51.620 is saying take down rt off of the platforms in canada rumble said no that's not how we do things

00:09:56.500 and they said well we're going to ban you in in um in france and they said okay so be it i mean you're

00:10:01.340 punishing your own citizens so the platform is as as good as as perfect can get in terms of um

00:10:08.760 non-politically motivated censorship in terms of transparent rules community guidelines in terms of

00:10:14.580 service that i had a hand in drafting crafting as we will continue to evolve over time and it's a

00:10:19.680 company that i obviously believe in and it was just you know opportunity arose at the right time

00:10:24.560 we had gotten to a point where i said i'm not i'm not going back to another five months of curfew

00:10:28.840 in in quebec the kids aren't we're not having underground uh sleepovers like we're um committing

00:10:35.420 some crime we're like the kids have to worry about being seen leaving their friends houses because we

00:10:39.660 might have been breaking the rules it's it's inhumane unscientific unconstitutional abuse

00:10:44.700 yeah um and you know knowing what i know now however moving is incredibly difficult incredibly

00:10:51.780 costly and um you know i'm fortunate but i do feel a bit like i've abandoned canada but i i also think

00:10:59.740 that having come down here allows me to be a lot more vocal about the madness going on in canada

00:11:04.960 from bill c11 to can to quebec stuff and now to the euthanasia stuff in canada which um people

00:11:11.520 outside of canada don't seem to be aware of and people inside of canada don't seem to be aware of

00:11:15.300 and it should shock the conscience of anybody with a conscience yeah well it's very interesting and i i

00:11:20.440 literally had no idea you were working with rumble um i mean i i've got my notes of here of things i

00:11:24.980 was going to chat with you about the trucker convoy uh your law blog the state of canada and i'm

00:11:30.840 fascinated that you hook up with rumble and let me just come back you you mentioned um that they

00:11:35.440 were under great pressure to drop rt that's russia today that's one of the state broadcasters in the

00:11:40.320 in putin's russia and it's obviously propaganda uh even more so i think than the cbc is trudeau

00:11:46.120 propaganda um but still it's they're not breaking any laws it's another point of view and i'm curious

00:11:52.860 occasionally to see what rt has to say about things because i actually want to know what putin's

00:11:57.140 thinking what he's worried about what he's sensitive about you can you can sort of read

00:12:00.960 i same reason i occasionally look at al jazeera or or erdogan state broadcaster trt it's it's a

00:12:08.000 fascinating you have to sort of reverse engineer well why would they publish this like i i find it

00:12:12.820 fascinating to see al jazeera attack fracking in canada what does al jazeera care about fracking

00:12:19.940 can't well think about it they're owned by the government of qatar they don't like competitors for 0.55

00:12:24.660 oil and gas so anyways back to rumble when france said when when when a lot of western powers like

00:12:32.940 governments not just you know lobbyists or advocates said kick off rt from your platform

00:12:38.740 here i'll put it on the screen here the statement from rumble was so bold and so no that's not how who

00:12:46.020 we are we're just not going to do that i thought if you can resist sovereign countries and nato allies

00:12:53.140 saying censor you've got cojones and that's when i knew rumble was for real because that must have

00:13:00.740 been the most difficult decision they ever made what and not even from a financial perspective because 0.98

00:13:06.140 i first of all i don't know any inside stuff so this is what i'm getting is from the news as well

00:13:10.120 it's not even from a financial perspective it's not like uh you know france was the biggest market

00:13:15.660 it's going to you know devastate them from uh rumble's perspective you know the issue is

00:13:21.140 cutting off what's the population of france like 80 million people what's the population of france

00:13:25.360 that sounds about right yeah 70 80 i mean you're cutting off access through your own decision and

00:13:30.960 you feel a little guilty about that now there's vpns and there's other ways of getting around it but

00:13:35.020 it was a question of principle that once you compromise politically uncensored uh free speech it's

00:13:42.260 not free speech to run out saying the n-word it's just we're not making politically motivated

00:13:46.920 decisions as to who gets hurt and who doesn't they're cutting off an entire nation and the people

00:13:50.840 of that nation that that is the hard part not the not the financial aspect of it um but they set a

00:13:57.020 standard and they and they and they you know didn't dig in their heels they just live by principles

00:14:01.800 we're not doing it this is not how we do it and i mean more power to them it's why i think the

00:14:06.380 company is walking the walk very exciting you know i just want to say one more rumble thing i i literally

00:14:11.700 didn't know till this interview that you were working with them i'm thrilled i that moment

00:14:15.680 where they didn't bend to a government request for censorship was a key moment for me and the second

00:14:21.900 was the opposite moment it was when canter fitzgerald which is a major u.s hedge fund um actually they

00:14:30.540 became famous in a very dark way when when their offices were devastated on 9-11 they were in one of

00:14:36.260 the towers and they lost a tremendous amount of life but canter fitzgerald still exists it's a major u.s

00:14:40.560 hedge fund and i tell you that because they don't care about left wing or right wing they care about

00:14:45.380 money and when they made a 400 million dollar investment in rumble i thought these guys this

00:14:50.520 is not a passion project this is not out of love or friendship they really think that this is a goer

00:14:56.480 they think this is a real competitor and and that what rumble is doing is commercially valuable having

00:15:02.940 a free speech place is a winner in the market i thought that's proof because that's not just guys like

00:15:09.360 you and me who go with our heart that's absolutely cold-blooded capitalists on wall street going with

00:15:16.520 their pocketbooks so that was an exciting moment for me well and and you know people were fearing that

00:15:21.920 you know if rumble goes public they're going to be beholden to shareholders and they're going to go

00:15:25.700 the same way of youtube when people say we're going to pull advertising if you don't censor certain

00:15:29.800 accounts um i i was i won't say i was critical of rumble but we were uh i was very transparent in my

00:15:35.860 opinion of rumble where robert barnes and i during our weekly streams before uh any business

00:15:40.460 relationship with rumble we said that's not necessarily so much of a risk because a company

00:15:45.300 that goes to you know goes to shareholders to say we're going to be the politically neutral

00:15:49.700 uh version of youtube we're not going to censor and they go public and that's the warranties and

00:15:53.680 representations they make to their shareholders if they violate that they expose themselves so you

00:15:58.520 know they they go public they're sticking to their principles they also own they merged with

00:16:04.680 locals so they have this other you know the the facebook behind a paywall it's just it is and

00:16:11.340 they're expanding and they want to you know they want to get involved in other platforms as well

00:16:14.880 it's it's it's a phenomenal thing they i got to know chris pavlosky through the vlogs i was doing

00:16:20.380 covering lawsuits involving rumble versus google and then you know the organic relationship blossomed into

00:16:26.800 the business relationship it has and lo and behold i i came down to florida for a few years so

00:16:32.640 it's fun but i do miss the changing of the seasons i it's i don't know what month this is i i walk

00:16:38.100 outside and it's sunny and hot every day of the week i miss winter i miss ice fishing i miss mountains

00:16:43.920 i miss cold rivers um but you know seeing kids live a normal life for kids um you know i say makes it

00:16:52.700 worth it sounds like a cliche it's a necessity well and you know it's interesting so many people i think

00:16:58.560 about half million people a year have been moving to florida i think that actually may be one reason

00:17:03.340 not just why ronda sandus had a 19 margin of victory i think the largest ever for the republicans in

00:17:09.580 florida at least since reconstruction time but um i think it's also a reason why some other states

00:17:16.860 the republicans underperformed because every freedom oriented person who cared about the lockdowns

00:17:22.840 well you put a million of them in florida you're taking a million votes away from new york and and

00:17:29.040 other sort of like new york came fairly close to electing a republican governor the closest in

00:17:35.320 decades actually but i think that all the new york republican voters now down in florida as it's it's a joke

00:17:43.000 in florida that everybody's from new york i mean i think it's the same joke in texas everyone's from

00:17:47.520 california yeah it's a joke i i jersey new york you can hear the accent well i bet there's a lot of

00:17:52.680 other canadians too i mean just again our own company we've got two people who left for florida

00:17:56.860 and that's fine i i bet there's a lot of people who could move did move there's a lot of i see the

00:18:02.740 snowbirds now but uh look the amazing thing from what i understood about florida is that you know

00:18:07.540 the the uh the rental trucks were coming in from california from across country but not going back

00:18:12.920 uh it's people vote with their feet they vote with their dollar they vote with their vote at the

00:18:17.760 end of the day and you know florida's growing and it's it's just an amazing thing to see what's going

00:18:24.120 on in florida compared to what i see now going on in canada you got kieran moore in ontario talking

00:18:29.960 about bringing back mask mandates it's like it's it's actual einstein insanity of these alleged experts

00:18:35.660 doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results and at this point like i've gone

00:18:40.280 maybe a little bit too cynical i just think it's about control it's about dominating a country

00:18:45.700 dominating a people getting them to be perpetually fearful and uh you know subservient to the government

00:18:52.300 you know we've spent uh i've enjoyed the last 20 minutes for our conversation with i should tell you

00:18:56.660 i've gotten to literally nothing on my on my list here because it's so interesting both the move to

00:19:01.280 florida and rumble which was news to me but i want to talk to you about what i think

00:19:05.360 and i i don't think there's any doubt about it was the news story of 2022 in canada namely the

00:19:11.860 trucker convoy it it was riveting the whole world was fascinated by canada which is not a sentence you

00:19:18.440 hear very often um canada was a leader for freedom around the world again that's something you don't

00:19:23.520 hear very often it was so clearly organic and authentic no political party backed them i mean

00:19:29.320 maxime bernier was was supportive but but his party is very small and had no representation in

00:19:33.940 parliament there was no funding in fact they cut off almost 20 million dollars worth of funding to

00:19:38.620 it it was the the government and the advocacy group starved it of funding and yet it happened

00:19:44.280 and it immediately had effects on the conservative movement it toppled jason kenney it toppled erin

00:19:50.440 o'toole and improved both those party stances on freedom it actually broke the fever that people

00:19:56.560 thought oh everyone's in this together uh i thought i was the only one against it like there was this

00:20:01.660 false unanimity the truckers broke that they ended some of the vaccine mandates very shortly thereafter

00:20:08.220 it forced justin trudeau to overplay his hand and led to the commission of inquiry there is no doubt

00:20:15.120 about it in my mind that trucker convoy was not only the most important news story the most important

00:20:20.340 political story it was actually the best thing to happen for freedom in canada in decades that's what

00:20:27.320 i think about it now i was only there for a few days now our team was there longer but you were there

00:20:32.320 you were live streaming tell me about your time there so this is it's an amazing thing you live

00:20:39.140 through it and you understand it so much better in retrospect i'm doing my viva on the streets when

00:20:44.900 we were i'm pretty sure we were under curfew at this time in quebec and i'm this is year two of

00:20:49.360 the curfew last year in 2021 it was five months plus this year was a little over a month

00:20:53.460 and i'm doing viva on the streets walking up and down green avenue with my dog because i'm allowed

00:20:57.940 out of the house with a dog after curfew because science and people in my in the chat people in the

00:21:03.040 comments are saying viva why aren't you paying attention to the convoy and i'm like what convoy

00:21:07.320 because i'm in the i'm not in the news i'm i'm immersed in the news and i see nothing about it right

00:21:12.980 and then i start googling it and i see okay there's a a convoy protesting road conditions in british

00:21:18.260 columbia it's like what's the big deal guys it's like no there's it's cross-country the media is

00:21:22.980 covering or downplaying it ignoring it and i lived through this progression where they were

00:21:28.140 1000 right this convoy was brewing they knew it people involved in the convoy knew it the media

00:21:34.420 was deliberately ignoring it at first then misdirecting to this convoy protesting road

00:21:39.900 conditions in british columbia then it got so big they couldn't ignore it and they got right into

00:21:44.120 demonizing it racist extremist truckers on their way to ottawa and i remember i was in florida for a

00:21:51.100 project veritas event the weekend it first went down and everyone's like everyone says viva you

00:21:55.780 got to get down here and see what's going on you won't believe what it's like in reality compared

00:21:59.700 to the media because that first weekend cbc all these dishonest politicians you know uh referencing

00:22:07.520 that nazi flag the uh the the confederate flag and it was like viva you got to get down and see

00:22:13.420 what's going on because it's not what you see in the media and it's like okay we're gonna do it

00:22:16.220 i'm going down it's it's a new thing for me people have been doing it but i'm gonna live stream and if

00:22:21.740 i see nazi flags and if i see confederate flags and if i see violence misogyny extremism everyone

00:22:26.900 else is going to see it in real time i'm not there to protect anybody i'm not there to filter anything

00:22:32.320 and day one i'm like i i see this i was like holy cow i i heard there were nazi flags confederate

00:22:38.240 flags people were defecating on the war memorial i get down there there are veterans shoveling the snow

00:22:43.940 off the steps of the war memorial it's the happiest most boisterous uh i wouldn't even

00:22:49.720 call it a protest because it didn't feel like it felt like a festival felt like a festival i i and

00:22:55.060 at first i was reluctant to give hugs and this and that and then like day one i was like this is this

00:22:59.860 is madness people need to see what's going on and then i just stayed there i kept on going back i was

00:23:03.880 driving what is it like 400 kilometers a day uh because i didn't i don't like sleeping away from the

00:23:08.480 family so i i drove it in the morning live streamed all day went back did it like for 14 days

00:23:13.280 and i saw the progression from day one to the violent suppression of this protest had no idea

00:23:19.400 what it was going to turn into you know day one few thousand people watching live day two more at

00:23:25.880 one point we were over 50 000 people watching live wow um on youtube alone and some of these live

00:23:32.860 streams which are six hours long half a million views and the world or at least those who are

00:23:37.500 watching saw it and they saw the degree to which we are being actively lied to by canadian media how

00:23:42.500 the media was weaponizing children they accused the protesters of using children as human shields

00:23:47.260 they were using children as political tools as as as weaponizing children to say if you don't get

00:23:54.000 out of here we're going to take your kids we saw what the media did and then we saw what the government 0.58

00:23:57.880 did and as you said it was it was the most invigorating encouraging thing that you'd ever seen

00:24:02.840 it was for me too and i said depending on how this ends it's either going to end the way it should

00:24:07.540 or it's going to end with a boot to the neck and it's going to be a crushing suppression of the most

00:24:13.420 organic beautiful peace-loving tolerant protest you've ever seen and it was a boot to the neck and i

00:24:18.620 would be lying if i said i i'm not deeply deeply angry and and maybe jaded as a result of how it ended

00:24:25.680 we'll see if part two with this commission ends properly with a an admonishment of justin trudeau i'm

00:24:31.440 now not so confident that's even going to happen yeah i we'll see in the end it's not over yet but

00:24:36.520 we're going to see if the bad guys win you know uh i don't know if the admonishment from that judge

00:24:42.120 will happen i i think that the judge did a pretty good job given the the restrictions on the time

00:24:47.580 limits um the the government uh stonewalling delaying the release of things but let's say he

00:24:55.240 does admonish the government that's the part that scares me because i think there's going to be a

00:24:59.460 collective shrug and you're going to see the regime media who are all on the payroll and we saw during

00:25:06.080 the commission of inquiry how the government was uh massaging and developing fake stories like about

00:25:12.580 racism and this is our january 6 insurrection i think you're going to see the regime media say ha it

00:25:18.300 was a big nothing burger everything's fine and trudeau will just put on his sexiest voice and say

00:25:23.680 well we made the decisions at the time in good faith and like he'll just like like the five times he's

00:25:29.020 been convicted or however many under the conflict of interest act act he doesn't care well he'll

00:25:34.080 just skate even if he's condemned he'll skate twice convicted thrice accused i don't know that well

00:25:40.280 that's but that will be the that will be the end of a lot of things in my view if if it turns into

00:25:45.420 a nothing burger or worse uh as well because i i thought the judge did a great job during the six

00:25:51.020 weeks right um i started listening to that commission when they were going on the policy discussions

00:25:55.540 the week after and then i started getting terrified i'm like holy holy crap they're actually

00:26:00.560 entertaining ideas of taking lists of protesters who are there and then if they don't leave freezing

00:26:06.820 bank accounts as policy as practice they're actually entertaining the idea that this was domestic

00:26:12.760 terrorism they're they're entertaining notions which should be offensive to anybody who has the

00:26:18.000 slightest degree of knowledge of what happened and the other proverbial black pill for me in all this is

00:26:23.360 i know a lot of decent intelligent educated canadians who are on board with what happened

00:26:29.480 it's like yeah well they shouldn't have done it oh yeah you know go ahead oh so you know it's it's it's

00:26:35.280 it's deeply deeply discouraging uh where you there's a big portion of canadian people who love freedom

00:26:41.680 and and just love leave me alone and there's a great portion of canadians who say how many times do i

00:26:47.780 need to vaccinate my kids before they can get their freedom back yeah you know in our boardroom here

00:26:53.160 we have on the wall a picture you you probably know the one it's a a sea of people seek heiling

00:26:59.460 hitler and then there's one guy with his arms crossed in front of his chest his name is august

00:27:03.540 landmesser and he was angry because he he had a jewish fiancee and he was barred from marrying her

00:27:09.940 i've tried to learn a little bit about august landmesser i don't think he ended

00:27:13.760 well both him and his his wife of course died um she was killed in a concentration camp but he was

00:27:19.780 sent in a penal battalion and and died on the battlefield but that picture is very famous at

00:27:25.060 least in social media with the implication be this guy and i think so many canadians think that would

00:27:32.440 be me i would be the one guy standing up for freedom i would be the one guy pointing to the mob

00:27:38.720 and saying you're wrong and i know you can be wrong even if i'm all alone saying it but i think

00:27:43.840 the country failed that test and we saw what people would have been like because the conformity

00:27:50.140 and not just the conformity but the active participation you talked earlier about you know

00:27:57.040 in stores people would take it upon themselves to be mask enforcers to be social distancing enforcers

00:28:03.260 maybe it was out of fear or out of i need to do the right thing or maybe this magic ritual will save

00:28:08.920 me from this magic death but people not only didn't stand for freedom they were happy to rat out their

00:28:17.180 neighbors and and to and to hold themselves as more virtuous for it our country failed that test not

00:28:24.420 everyone but the country as a whole failed the test at wicked speed ezra it was it was shocking i mean

00:28:32.600 when we when we put in the vaccine passports in quebec and i have to be very sensitive about the

00:28:38.200 fact that it's very easy for me to get angry at an employee doing just following orders because they

00:28:42.540 don't want to lose their job but they were they were very eager to do it you know in in alexis neon

00:28:48.340 food court in an open space asking for your passport to sit down so you can eat in the food court

00:28:53.400 asking for vaccine passports to get into the canadian tire in the basement and and lo and behold the

00:28:58.680 people that were being excluded disproportionately tended to be of a certain race which were

00:29:03.060 statistically under vaccinated less likely to have gotten vaccinated i went to a walmart on on to carry 0.98

00:29:09.280 and i i wanted to be a pain in the ass and i said i'm not putting on a mask i'm going to the pharmacy 0.86

00:29:14.060 and then the manager came and escorted me from the door to the pharmacy so i could get whatever i needed 0.99

00:29:20.120 i didn't need to get anything i bought a bottle of rubbing alcohol and then and then escorted me out

00:29:24.340 and it it became in canada very quickly that it became virtuous and brave to follow the government

00:29:31.940 orders it became virtuous and courageous to defer all critical thought to so-called experts even if

00:29:39.380 they were wrong consistently and even if they were visibly delusional dina hinshaw who lied about the

00:29:46.880 14 year old boy dying of covid dina hinshaw who who got up there disinfecting her hands taking a mask

00:29:53.640 off her face like she's carrying the plague these were the people that people thought it was virtuous 0.99

00:29:58.960 and intelligent to defer to and it became extremely discouraging to me i i've i won't say i've lost a

00:30:06.100 lot of friends i never had that many friends in the first place but i've seen people that i know who

00:30:09.680 should be smarter just basically surrender critical thought in the hopes that the ritual will save them

00:30:16.060 or that they'll get their rights back quicker if they do you know in in the book 1984 by george

00:30:20.840 orwell winston smith's job it's a strange job this was in the before the internet times it was to

00:30:27.480 cut out newspaper articles from the archives and glue in or or replace it with revised versions of

00:30:35.360 what happened in the past so they were constantly changing who which countries were at war with each

00:30:41.680 other what big brother said and that was winston's job is so you could never even know the past who

00:30:47.640 controlled the past controlled the the present i think was one of their slogans yeah um that's how

00:30:53.980 it was with the rules oh don't wear a mask oh do wear a mask oh like i mean and the thing is they

00:31:00.900 didn't even have to delete what they said before people willingly said oh no we've always had to wear

00:31:07.460 a mask uh don't you know it never prevent we never said it would prevent transmission that's the one 0.95

00:31:13.220 that i mean it blows my mind because people are just turning into useful idiots it we never said

00:31:19.960 it would prevent transmission i've got a tweet from albert burla april 1st 2021 100 effective in 0.97

00:31:26.580 preventing cases in south africa in our study and then you get people saying oh he meant cases of

00:31:31.960 hospitalization from severe covid or it doesn't prevent you getting uh coronavirus but it prevents you from

00:31:38.600 getting uh serious um uh side effects no you and people have convinced themselves they never lied to

00:31:46.800 us in the first place because it makes it easier for them to live with the fact that they've been

00:31:49.600 deceived but you know two weeks to flatten the curve it's only after the last two and a half years of

00:31:55.000 actually you know interviewing people who i know are smarter than me where they one person said how is

00:31:59.700 it two weeks to flatten the curve if you don't know what your start date is i i i was going back through

00:32:04.180 my twitter timeline just to see when i started getting wise to the madness it was when they

00:32:08.600 locked the outdoor dog run and i was like yeah oh i'm no i don't need to be a doctor to know that 0.97

00:32:14.300 this is idiotic period yeah incredible uh and no one knows where the six foot thing came from uh 0.97

00:32:20.800 arbitrary arbitrary in some in some countries it was one meter in others it was and and to have people 0.99

00:32:27.060 with measuring tapes oh it's just it's five foot six inches like there was a uh some inspector in a

00:32:32.840 barbershop literally with measuring tape between chairs as if you know if you sit in a restaurant

00:32:39.780 you don't need a mask you stand up though you need a mask i mean the whole curfew idea crazy hey listen

00:32:45.000 i want to ask you one last thing you've been very generous with your time and um i appreciate your

00:32:49.880 points of view but you sound like you're fairly engrossed with c11 which is the name of a bill

00:32:56.060 the government to regulate the internet and there's there's other companion legislation c18 i think that's

00:33:02.020 called the online streaming online streaming act and then there's an online news act and then there

00:33:06.000 was another uh law called bill c36 that i don't think has been reintroduced yet if i'm adding that

00:33:13.080 upright i think there's actually four bills each of which has some degree of censorship in them

00:33:18.200 and by the way i don't think justin trudeau has four bills in parliament about inflation

00:33:23.000 or about um you know the housing prices or about the war in ukraine i think i think he's obsessed with

00:33:32.060 regulating the internet obsessed with censorship especially of guys like you and rebel news and

00:33:37.900 others who are alternative media especially because of the trucker convoy by the way i mean you just

00:33:43.860 showed us you would have a half a million viewers on a live stream that by some standards was sort of

00:33:49.860 boring you were walking around just showing things but people go ahead i know i can make i can make

00:33:56.840 things exciting i can make you know paint drying exciting this it was exciting but it was long and

00:34:02.020 there's no question it exposed something that media and the government did not want exposed w5 goes out

00:34:08.180 and runs a hit piece on me and their biggest critique of me is that i provide information without a filter

00:34:13.240 that's what you should be doing yeah that's your job that's what the word media actually means

00:34:18.660 media actually means you you you're you're the middle you pass things through you're not a

00:34:23.500 blockage you're a passage i never thought about that that's actually very good but oh just to add

00:34:28.980 to your you know he's obsessed with censorship trudeau's obsessed with two things disarming and

00:34:33.900 censorship yeah and it's one can connect those dots if one is so inclined yeah but the the disarming a

00:34:40.440 populace making them live in perpetual fear of each other of unknowns of of a virus that if you stand up

00:34:46.840 it'll get you um and then to go to censorship so that you don't have access to the rebel news to the

00:34:54.380 true north to the viva fries i i it's not it's not an accident but uh someone can accuse me of being

00:35:00.960 conspiratorial for trying to connect the dots of government trying to disarm suppress censor and

00:35:06.700 control an entire population c11 i i read it i know it's been through debates and there may be some

00:35:13.920 amendments to it i should probably freshen up my understanding of it it may have some amendments

00:35:18.060 since i read it last i see that as the gateway for government regulation of the internet i see it as

00:35:25.420 the starting pistol i there are some provisions in it that are concerning to me but the most concerning

00:35:31.360 thing is that what it permits to come later including c18 c36 etc and they haven't yet introduced

00:35:38.300 what they brainstormed two years ago called the online harms which so they've got so many things

00:35:45.300 waiting in the wings why don't you tell me in plain language for our viewers the two or three worst

00:35:52.780 things that you think will happen if these if c11 and other censorship bills become law now and all

00:36:00.840 it my understanding is based on reading other people's opinions as well c c11 is the what is the word

00:36:07.360 for what comes after it's the predecessor to c10 which which died in the last legislative session

00:36:12.040 um the biggest things it's going to regulate online accounts individual social media accounts if

00:36:20.580 they're big enough and subject them to the criteria of the canada broadcast act in terms of canadian

00:36:26.040 content requirements can con requirements financial obligations financial penalties um it's going to

00:36:31.520 require platforms like youtube to potentially downgrade upgrade suppress exposure i mean what

00:36:39.040 we've seen with the twitter censorship it's going to do it as a matter of policy for canadian content

00:36:42.860 to ensure that the platforms that carry the content are in compliance with this law it's nothing

00:36:48.020 it's nothing shy of trying to give the leg back up to legacy media which had this monopoly on radio and

00:36:56.260 television but lost their monopoly to gatekeeping because of the internet it is nothing but a

00:37:01.500 disguised attempt to re-establish state captured media as the gatekeepers to the internet i don't

00:37:07.900 know what the impact would be on individual my content i don't know if it's mostly canadian but

00:37:12.860 in as much as i was a canadian content creator i would presume most of it is what should be deemed

00:37:17.000 canadian content but the way these things are weaponized yeah it's it's undoubtedly i joked at the

00:37:22.320 time that it should have been called the rebel news bill because it's it is an attempt to penalize

00:37:26.960 independent uh not content creators independent news outlets to to give that that that advantage back

00:37:34.880 to captured legacy media uh and the fact that they lied and they did they lied gilbo the minister of

00:37:41.600 heritage i think he is lied when they said it's not going to go after your social media accounts that's

00:37:48.640 why we're including this specific amendment that excludes social media accounts which in the dead

00:37:53.520 of night they remove and then they admit yeah it's it's not going to go after individual accounts

00:37:57.340 unless you're big enough acting like a broadcaster and you say like well what does that mean i don't

00:38:01.780 don't worry don't worry we're not interested in that but they're interested in that yeah um it's it's

00:38:06.100 just it's the it is the last level of censorship that will effectively uh prohibit it'll it'll make

00:38:12.600 impossible independent concrete content creators to make content in canada and which will result in

00:38:18.780 them either leaving which would be the win for the government changing business which would be the win

00:38:24.300 for the government and the government's going to suppress what canadians can see that comes in from

00:38:27.940 abroad it's it's trudeau is turning canada into china in real time and too many people don't appreciate

00:38:34.200 it well i might just join you yet in boca raton you know i'm you jokingly called it the rebel news

00:38:42.980 law but it it really is i remember when we named our company part of rebel was uh part of the word

00:38:51.080 rebel was to rebel against the the ideology of the of the dominant media part was to rebel against the

00:38:57.540 technology the expensive cameras the expensive studios but part of it was to rebel against the

00:39:03.200 regulatory authority which i believe is what killed sun news network i mean they had they spent 40 50

00:39:08.420 million bucks they didn't they weren't short of money but they had regulatory problems with the

00:39:12.400 crtc so part of rebel news what were we rebelling against the the fact that the man could decide and

00:39:19.060 we've had eight great years we turn eight years old in february and i truly think it's taken eight years

00:39:25.100 for the uh regulatory state to say hey it's not just rebel news out there look at this entire

00:39:31.300 thriving world and they're not listening to us and how dare viva fry get half a million views of 1.00

00:39:38.460 what's really going on we want them to google trucker convoy and get something about road conditions

00:39:43.960 and so i think they're coming to kill the internet i there's no doubt in my mind that they want to

00:39:50.880 kill it or just take it over which will be the same thing as killing it you know it when when cbc was

00:39:57.040 saying protesters were dancing on the war memorial and and and peeing and pooping on it and then i 0.99

00:40:02.020 get there and i do a 360 live and there might have been coffee which someone might have thought was

00:40:07.060 urine when they said the protesters were defiling the terry fox memorial and i go there and do the

00:40:11.640 360 and the defiling consists of a canadian flag in terry fox's hand i think terry fox would have been

00:40:17.180 very proud of that yeah i mean when you have zot i mean i don't you know if you know who zot was

00:40:22.900 another another walking talking live streamer of the of the convoy uh you ottawa scotty uh travel

00:40:28.800 fund 69 you had i'm saying nobody's not in in a derogatory demeaning sense but people unknown to the

00:40:36.240 media crushing the media yeah in real time because they were doing nothing more than democratizing the

00:40:42.640 access to information and that is what the canadian media is absolutely not about they want the monopoly

00:40:48.240 they want the they want the framing they want they want to tell you what to think instead of giving

00:40:53.040 the information so that you can come to your own conclusions wow well listen it's great to catch up

00:40:58.440 with you thank you for all this tell our viewers again i think a lot of our viewers know you but just

00:41:02.720 for those who don't what are the best ways and best places for people to get their viva fry fix

00:41:07.860 well if you want angry viva fry it's twitter at the viva fry the viva fry is taken by another

00:41:14.460 account but the viva fry on twitter rumble youtube viva fry uh on this platform where i work with robert

00:41:21.540 barnes viva barnes law dot locals dot com that's on locals um and that's basically it but google you

00:41:27.900 google viva fry you're gonna find some stories on the internet you'll you'll find some stories and some

00:41:33.220 some tweets that have made their ways into uh recent articles but those are the best places to

00:41:38.400 find me well that's great we'll put links to those underneath this video for folks to who want to go

00:41:42.660 deeper great to see you thanks very much for doing this i'm sort of jealous that you're down there and

00:41:48.260 god forbid things really go the way that they look like they're going we might just be refugees 1.00

00:41:52.700 down with you too so take care my friend and thanks for today and and all the best in 2023 may it be a

00:41:59.740 year of freedom absolutely thank you very much as well all right there you have it viva fry also

00:42:05.260 known as david fry height that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel

00:42:11.520 world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

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Rebel News Podcast - December 29, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Face masks, lockdowns and no play-dates for his kids： what pushed David Freiheit to leave Canada

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