Rebel News Podcast - August 20, 2021


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Facebook gives Trudeau’s CBC the power to censor your posts


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The government has appointed the CBC as a campaign fact checker, and now they have the power to censor you if you disagree with what they say. What's the difference between fact checking and fact-checking? And why does the government think the CBC is better than the rest of the media?

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I don't understand what's happened with fact-checking. I thought it was
00:00:04.360 supposed to be journalists fact-checking the government, but now Facebook has done a deal
00:00:09.200 with the CBC, which is the government broadcaster. Now the government broadcaster will fact-check
00:00:15.400 the people. That's a bit upside down. I'll give you all the terrible details, and I'll show you
00:00:20.400 who made the decision at Facebook and a curious omission on his LinkedIn biography. I'll explain
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00:01:00.440 that's harder and harder to find these days. All right, here's today's podcast.
00:01:04.020 Tonight, Facebook gives Trudeau's CBC the power to censor your posts. It's August 19th,
00:01:26.300 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:30.040 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:33.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:37.600 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:42.480 right to do so.
00:01:48.300 Just astonishing news. Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster.
00:01:51.660 It's a government agency. Their board is appointed by Trudeau. It's a partisan left-wing
00:01:57.820 biased group of bitter old state journalists. People most Canadians ignore. Only 1% of Canadians
00:02:04.820 watch their nightly national news show. Sometimes it's half that number. It's really an uninteresting
00:02:11.460 lobby group that has record low viewership, less than us most of the time. Our little website,
00:02:16.960 that's CBC. They now have the power to censor you on Facebook.
00:02:23.520 As in, if Trudeau's CBC disagrees with what you say, they can get Facebook to censor you,
00:02:28.940 to take down your post. And by you, I mean you and me, because Rebel News, like most news
00:02:34.600 organizations, relies on our Facebook posts, our Facebook page, to communicate with many of our
00:02:39.940 viewers.
00:02:40.200 So the CBC tells Facebook to censor us, and they will. Here's the story in Blacklock's
00:02:47.240 reporter, one of the few independent media left in Canada. I bet you this was censored.
00:02:53.180 CBC, name CBC as fact-checkers. Facebook Canada yesterday named the CBC as an election campaign
00:03:00.160 fact-checker. The Crown broadcaster's French language service Radio Canada will monitor other
00:03:06.220 media's news stories to ensure accuracy, though the network has acknowledged multiple errors in its
00:03:11.280 own news coverage. Can you believe that? So you got two reporters covering the same story in
00:03:17.440 the election. For different news channels, different companies, you can choose which one to listen to,
00:03:24.380 which one to believe, or you could listen to both. But no, now the government journalist at Trudeau's
00:03:30.840 CBC gets to censor the independent journalist. And during an election campaign, no less.
00:03:36.800 When a fact-checker rates a piece of content as false, we significantly reduce its distribution
00:03:42.200 so that fewer people can see it, Facebook wrote in a 2021 Canadian election integrity initiative.
00:03:47.580 We notify people who try to share the content or previously shared it that the information is false.
00:03:53.140 And we apply a warning label that links to the fact-checker's article disproving the claim.
00:03:57.180 Oh, so the CBC is now held as the gold standard, eh? Disproving the claim. Did you catch that
00:04:04.180 language? So it's like a court of law, or I don't know, maybe a scientific experiment. You can prove
00:04:11.080 it? Like maybe run a little experiment with, you know, lab coats and bunsen burners. You can see
00:04:17.960 which news source is correct. What a joke. The fake status granted to these censors, like they have
00:04:24.320 some secret truth the rest of us don't, or some secret talent or insight that the rest of us don't.
00:04:31.320 One other media outlet, agency France Press, the subsidized Paris-based news agency, will also act
00:04:37.640 as a campaign fact-checker. Facebook requires fact-checking organizations to be independently
00:04:42.500 certified. Oh, certified, said Alex Kaczarski, spokesperson for the company.
00:04:47.780 Every fact-checking organization in our program is required to have a public appeals email address,
00:04:54.080 said Kaczarski. Media that objected to CBC fact findings could file a complaint, he said.
00:05:00.720 So the CBC will now have its own little court. So you can appeal the CBC's rulings to the CBC.
00:05:08.720 Yeah, that sounds a teeny tiny bit rigged. I'll keep reading.
00:05:12.780 The program was intended to, quote, fight disinformation and connect Canadians with
00:05:18.600 credible information, wrote Facebook. We are committed to doing our part to support civic
00:05:23.080 engagement. Hey, what is disinformation and what is credible information? Can two people disagree on
00:05:29.560 that? Here's an easy test. How many genders are there? Are you going to fact-check me there,
00:05:36.960 CBC, if I say there's just two? What is it this week? Are masks good or are masks
00:05:42.660 bad? Do vaccines work really, really well or do they need yearly boosters to top them up? Can
00:05:48.180 vaxxed people carry the virus with them or not? I mean, the science seems to change almost daily.
00:05:54.220 Imagine the CBC censoring what views they don't like. That's really what this is about.
00:05:59.380 Got a wild guess coming. They'll censor things that hurt their boy Trudeau.
00:06:03.340 Like when the CBC sued the Conservative Party in the last election. Seriously,
00:06:06.580 the people who sued the Conservatives as a favor to the Liberals now get to censor
00:06:11.260 what 38 million Canadians say and hear on Facebook about the Conservatives and the Liberals.
00:06:17.200 The social media company, in a guide combating misinformation and promoting credible information,
00:06:22.780 said fact-checking includes removing harmful information that could lead to imminent violence
00:06:27.880 or physical harm, such as misinformation about COVID-19 and vaccines.
00:06:33.700 CBC News has acknowledged multiple errors in coverage, including information about COVID-19.
00:06:38.500 The network to date admitted inaccurately reported the AstraZeneca vaccine was 100% effective.
00:06:46.760 Mistakenly claimed Saskatchewan Health Minister Paul Merriman had COVID.
00:06:51.480 Garbled statements about the media's conflict by Green Party leader Annamie Paul.
00:06:55.760 Falsely claimed the RCMP fatally shot a woman in Edmondson, New Brunswick.
00:06:59.720 Falsely claimed police fatally tasered a man in Winnipeg and misidentified the first black MP
00:07:04.260 elected to Parliament. CBC began publicly tracking its corrections, errors, and clarifications
00:07:08.700 for the first time last January 1st.
00:07:11.660 The thing is, look, we all get things wrong from time to time.
00:07:14.220 Over time, viewers decide if they trust us or not based on our track record.
00:07:21.120 Because of that, I wouldn't trust the CBC as far as I could throw them.
00:07:25.060 I'm sure they feel the same about me.
00:07:26.720 But only one of us now gets to silence the other.
00:07:30.140 And funny enough, it's big tech and big government teaming up.
00:07:34.220 I'll read some more.
00:07:35.540 Facebook Canada said fact-checkers will label other media's content deemed offside due to
00:07:40.800 altered video or photography missing context and stories rated partly false or false.
00:07:47.840 So a forged image is now the same as missing context?
00:07:52.540 Got it.
00:07:53.020 They're going to ban whatever they think embarrasses their boss Trudeau.
00:07:57.040 Can I ask sort of a basic question?
00:07:59.980 What is a fact-checker?
00:08:01.500 They said certified.
00:08:02.780 What is there like you go to university or something for it?
00:08:06.360 Did fact-checkers not exist until a few years ago?
00:08:08.780 It seems that way.
00:08:10.220 I mean, all of a sudden, there's such a proliferation of fact-checking websites and official fact-checkers.
00:08:15.200 And it's a job description.
00:08:16.680 And in so many cases, it's associated with very wealthy foundations or very big corporate media like Facebook.
00:08:23.580 Not a lot of independent fact-checkers out there, which is, I think, what you would want.
00:08:29.020 Then again, aren't all reporters and editors supposed to be fact-checkers?
00:08:34.300 Don't reporters always check the facts when they're writing the news?
00:08:36.340 The facts are pretty much the currency of the business.
00:08:39.660 You could have opinions on top of those facts.
00:08:42.480 And those aren't really checkable, since an opinion isn't really right or wrong.
00:08:47.200 It's an opinion.
00:08:47.960 I suppose opinions can be reasonable or unreasonable.
00:08:50.600 But we're each entitled to our own opinions.
00:08:53.180 I noticed that a lot of so-called fact-checkers really are opinion-checkers.
00:08:57.120 Remember Daniel Dale of the Toronto Star and then CNN fact-checking Rob Ford and then Donald Trump?
00:09:02.140 A lot of fact-checking under conservatives is just people saying they disagree with Trump or didn't like him personally.
00:09:10.900 That's not a fact-check.
00:09:13.600 But my big point is we're all fact-checkers.
00:09:16.260 We're all allowed to do that, to weigh what different media say, what different politicians say, and to come to our own conclusions.
00:09:21.800 But this new push for official fact-checking, almost always backed by some big corporate interest, has two characteristics.
00:09:28.980 It always defends the mainstream narrative.
00:09:32.140 It rarely speaks truth to power, unless it's a conservative.
00:09:35.600 It usually does the opposite, criticizing marginalized or dissident opinions.
00:09:39.960 Criticizing the opposition.
00:09:42.340 But related, and this is what's dark about so many so-called fact-checkers,
00:09:45.920 is the conclusions and decisions held by these new corporate fact-checkers are more and more linked to real-world punishments.
00:09:53.920 So what I mean is if Wendy Mesley or Xiangameshi or Rosemary Barton of the CBC said you're wrong,
00:10:02.880 in the past you could listen to them or not, or ignore them or not, whatever, no difference.
00:10:08.120 You could take their criticism of you as a badge of honor.
00:10:10.580 I did.
00:10:12.020 I mean, let's talk about science.
00:10:13.240 If a so-called fact-checker told you there were more than two genders or that a carbon tax was going to change the weather, you could laugh at them.
00:10:20.700 But not if these fact-checkers are connected to a censorship machine like YouTube or Google.
00:10:28.100 I've shown you these rules by YouTube before.
00:10:30.080 They'll ban you if you say, for example, that ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine are a remedy for COVID.
00:10:37.140 There used to be a saying in medicine, can I get a second opinion, doctor?
00:10:40.560 Well, YouTube says no.
00:10:42.120 There is only one opinion allowed on these things, and you'll be censored.
00:10:45.320 But even YouTube makes those outrageous decisions themselves.
00:10:49.680 They don't let one news company owned by a government censor all the other news companies.
00:10:55.000 I'm sure it's nothing, but the boss of Facebook in Canada is this guy, Kevin Chan.
00:11:01.360 He seems really nice, according to his biography.
00:11:03.920 He's done a lot of very interesting things in his career.
00:11:06.380 This is his LinkedIn page, his own biography that he wrote, which is odd, because I checked it twice,
00:11:12.140 and I couldn't find that period of time when he worked in the office of the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:11:19.340 Why would Kevin Chan, who's very much interested in true facts and not fake news,
00:11:27.260 why would Kevin Chan, Facebook's chief censor, who just signed a deal with the Liberal CBC,
00:11:34.320 why would he omit the fact that he himself used to work for the Liberals?
00:11:39.960 Oh, it's probably nothing that, just probably forgot.
00:11:45.440 Sure, it's nothing.
00:11:46.860 Fact-checking the powerful is a good idea, but this is fact-checking by the powerful of its critics.
00:11:55.040 The powerful will silence dissident voices, and now the CBC is in on that.
00:12:00.380 Can I end with a very short poem?
00:12:02.540 It was a German poem written in 1953 in East Germany by Bertolt Brecht.
00:12:07.580 So it was under communist domination.
00:12:10.680 There was a brief uprising against the communists on June 17th of that year.
00:12:15.080 It didn't go well.
00:12:16.020 It was crushed, of course.
00:12:17.800 Here's the poem.
00:12:18.780 In German, it's called Die Lösung, if I'm pronouncing that right, The Solution. 0.98
00:12:23.200 This is an English translation.
00:12:25.000 Just FYI, Stalin Alley, if I'm saying that right, is a major street in East Berlin named after Stalin.
00:12:32.500 All right, here's the poem.
00:12:33.260 It's very brief.
00:12:33.760 I'm going to read it in English.
00:12:34.540 After the uprising of the 17th of June, the Secretary of the Writers' Union had leaflets distributed on the Stalin Alley,
00:12:46.460 stating that the people had forfeited the confidence of the government and could only win it back by increased work quotas.
00:12:54.300 Would it not, in that case, be simpler for the government to dissolve the people and elect another?
00:13:05.720 That's it.
00:13:06.380 That's the poem in English.
00:13:08.340 Those silly people.
00:13:10.300 They didn't deserve the communist government.
00:13:13.060 They said the wrong things about it.
00:13:14.700 They certainly did the wrong things by rising up.
00:13:17.300 They were crushed.
00:13:18.040 So the Writers' Union, journalists, I suppose, an official journalist, government journalist, said that the people had let down the politicians and the people needed to work harder now.
00:13:29.860 But really, what the government most needed was just to get a different people.
00:13:33.840 We just need to dissolve the people and get a new one. 0.97
00:13:36.500 How bitterly funny.
00:13:38.400 But really, are we not there now?
00:13:41.060 Our version of the German Writers' Union is handing out their version of leaflets on the Stalin Alley, really tweeting comments from Trudeau International Airport.
00:13:52.240 And the government's broadcaster is working to fact-check the people and to correct the people and to censor the people if the people don't think the right thoughts about the government.
00:14:05.720 Do you not see the parallels?
00:14:08.160 Stay with us for a moment.
00:14:09.280 Stay with us for a moment.
00:14:39.280 Stay with us for a moment.
00:15:09.280 If I don't think about monetary policy.
00:15:12.380 You know, monetary policy is a phrase that I bet you 9 out of 10 folks on the street wouldn't know what that means.
00:15:18.500 Because it's another way of saying inflation.
00:15:20.800 Monetary policy means how to control the money supply and have interest rates go up and down.
00:15:26.020 Interest rates are going up.
00:15:27.820 The price of goods is going up.
00:15:30.720 What you spent $1 for last year is maybe $1.05 or $1.10, depending on the good.
00:15:37.180 Justin Trudeau says he doesn't give any thought to monetary policy, even though it's his job to do so.
00:15:44.960 The government of Canada and Bank of Canada jointly come up with the mandate.
00:15:49.260 You heard the reporter know more than Trudeau.
00:15:51.340 What's the plan for the next five years for inflation?
00:15:55.080 He doesn't know.
00:15:55.780 He doesn't care.
00:15:57.780 No one briefed him on it.
00:15:59.380 It's not as much fun as selfies.
00:16:01.860 Joining us now to talk about this is our friend Spencer Fernando from SpencerFernando.com.
00:16:06.420 Great to see you again, Spencer.
00:16:07.780 Do you think he was seeming flippant?
00:16:09.540 Or do you think it's true that he just actually doesn't think about inflation?
00:16:13.380 He doesn't think about monetary policy.
00:16:15.000 It's just, you know, it's for the other kids to handle.
00:16:18.440 He's interested in the fun stuff.
00:16:21.500 Yeah, unfortunately, I do think it is true, actually. 0.59
00:16:23.680 You know, he's obviously someone who doesn't take a lot of that stuff seriously.
00:16:27.460 You look at his view on the economy, it's obviously to spend as much money as possible, you know, throw money out the door.
00:16:32.220 And then, oh, well, we'll see what happens, but he thinks he's going to get political credit for just spending a bunch of money.
00:16:38.340 And I don't think he really cares about the long-term consequences.
00:16:41.100 And either doesn't understand the impact that just, you know, throwing a bunch of money out the door has, or he doesn't care.
00:16:46.980 I suspect it's a bit of both.
00:16:48.980 But, yeah, it's, you know, monetary policy must be a little too boring for him.
00:16:52.720 So he probably doesn't even know that his government actually has to sign off on that.
00:16:56.940 I mean, I'm seeing people on Twitter saying, oh, well, you know, Trudeau has no control over this.
00:17:02.220 It's all the Bank of Canada.
00:17:03.480 He has nothing to do with it.
00:17:04.780 Well, the government of Canada has to jointly sign on to the inflation target, right?
00:17:08.620 So the idea that this has nothing to do with Trudeau or the federal government is just absurd.
00:17:13.520 Yeah.
00:17:14.040 You know, it makes me think of two other comments that Trudeau made off script, just, or maybe, who knows, maybe they were rehearsed.
00:17:20.820 Remember when he said, budgets will balance themselves?
00:17:24.180 He said that once, and he said, we'll grow the economy from the heart out.
00:17:28.860 I don't think he made that little heart symbol with his hands that he normally does.
00:17:32.680 But, you know, you say something like that once, maybe it's a little bit of a misspeak.
00:17:38.120 Maybe you were tired or stressed or the words didn't come.
00:17:41.080 You say it twice, that's carelessness.
00:17:43.340 But I'm starting to believe this guy when he says, look, I don't know what's going on.
00:17:48.100 Grow it from the heart out.
00:17:50.160 It'll balance itself.
00:17:51.380 And I think it's partly from his own life.
00:17:54.180 The very first time I met Justin Trudeau, this was years before he entered politics, he was just sitting in some fancy bar in Toronto ordering drinks.
00:18:04.640 And he wasn't paying for anything himself.
00:18:06.820 He was living off the trust fund that his dad set up for him.
00:18:11.440 If he ever got into a problem, his dad's lawyers or accountants would fix it for him.
00:18:15.760 So it was true.
00:18:17.280 Budgets did balance themselves.
00:18:19.560 He didn't have to think about money.
00:18:21.460 There was always daddies, lawyers, and accountants there to fix it.
00:18:24.480 I actually think he's telling the truth.
00:18:26.780 He doesn't even know that hard stuff.
00:18:28.320 There's always a smarter person around to take care of it for him.
00:18:30.720 Yeah, for his life experience, you know, when he's had a problem that's been taken care of when he's wanted something, he's been able to afford it, right?
00:18:38.740 So he's never had to worry.
00:18:40.060 He's never had to sit around the table and think, okay, which bill do I pay now?
00:18:42.980 Which one do I have to put off?
00:18:44.600 You know, I need to get something, you know, for a member of the family, but I can't get something expensive.
00:18:49.280 So how do I find something cheaper?
00:18:51.160 You know, just never that kind of worry and concern and, you know, that kind of budgeting, you know, the budgeting every person, every family has to do.
00:18:57.400 And so I think, you know, he's in government now and he's all of a sudden, he's like, oh, well, I mean, the Bank of Canada just creates money for me and then I get to spend it, right?
00:19:05.280 So it's just the same as the rest of my life.
00:19:07.040 You know, there's no consequences.
00:19:08.720 Of course, it's different for an entire country, right?
00:19:10.980 I mean, there are obviously consequences for Canada, but I think he just assumes he's going to be, you know, he'll be doing something else.
00:19:17.080 Maybe he'll be working for the UN by the time we all pay those consequences.
00:19:20.740 So he doesn't really care.
00:19:22.460 Yeah.
00:19:22.600 You know, one of the measures for how the liberal campaign is going is when they play the, oh, my God, they're going to ban abortions card.
00:19:31.740 And I see that yesterday they rolled out a liberal cabinet minister to play that card, obviously timed strategically.
00:19:39.620 That tells me that maybe the liberal campaign is having a few bumps in the road.
00:19:43.560 But if they're playing the abortion card so early, you know, maybe they're getting a little panicky and maybe they should be.
00:19:52.280 Nova Scotia, and I don't think a lot of folks outside the province were paying close attention to their provincial election, but the incumbent liberals lost.
00:20:01.240 And to me, the most interesting detail of the night was an independent candidate won.
00:20:09.520 And her claim to fame was sort of opposing the lockdown, opposing the quarantine.
00:20:14.300 She was a bit of a dissident on that.
00:20:16.700 And she actually won as an independent, very hard to do.
00:20:19.540 So she had a conservative win.
00:20:21.380 And that independent anti-lockdownist win, maybe things aren't quite as made in the shade for Trudeau as he might like.
00:20:31.240 Yeah, I think one interesting thing about the independent winning there is that it may tell us that people are answering polls one way and actually feeling a different way, right?
00:20:39.660 So I think there's a lot of societal pressure to go along with lockdowns, to go along with the idea of mandates, you know, to go along with the idea of punishing people who choose not to be vaccinated.
00:20:48.880 But I think maybe on a more individual, you know, personal level, when people actually get to vote, you know, and maybe when they're talking amongst themselves as opposed to answering a poll where they want to be, I guess, politically correct or socially desirable.
00:21:02.320 I think there may be a little more nuance in how people are feeling.
00:21:05.300 So it is very interesting to see that.
00:21:06.860 And, you know, a lot of the polls in Nova Scotia did show the liberals really started to run into trouble when they started to push for vaccine passports, you know, within the province to go to gyms and restaurants and things like that.
00:21:18.880 You know, the polls showed that people like the idea, but it's interesting how they dropped in the polls when they introduced it.
00:21:24.060 And part of it might be that people may support certain ideas, but also feel a little bit disturbed when they see politicians exploiting a crisis for their own benefit.
00:21:33.360 And I think that's kind of a danger for Justin Trudeau as well.
00:21:36.220 People are going to say, well, it's interesting, you know, I guess.
00:21:38.620 Does this guy just think he's going to try to divide people on vaccines and divide people on mandates for his own political benefit?
00:21:45.180 And I think a lot of people, that doesn't sit too well with him.
00:21:48.320 You know, it's funny.
00:21:49.460 I was looking at a poll that was trying to figure out, well, who are people who are worried about vaccines, hesitant, skeptical, maybe even anti-vaccine?
00:21:58.400 And I forget which pollster it was, but they said the typical vaccine hesitant.
00:22:02.820 I'm not going to say anti-vax person, because I think most people are comfy with vaccines that have been tried and true.
00:22:09.400 And we know the underlying disease, you know, chickenpox, measles, mumps, rubella, things that we've known about for centuries, and vaccines that have been tried and true for decades.
00:22:18.500 I think there's a comfort level with that, as opposed to not just hasty vaccines, but the enormous pressure and threats.
00:22:27.860 I think that's, anyway, the average anti-vaxxer in Canada, according to polls, is a 42-year-old Ontario woman who votes liberal.
00:22:39.340 That's not your typical right-wing, you know, Tory voter.
00:22:47.260 So I think that Trudeau might be disturbing a part of his base with people who believe in bodily autonomy.
00:22:53.600 Let me play you the quick clip, Spencer.
00:22:56.040 Look at this.
00:22:56.520 This is Trudeau talking about abortion.
00:22:58.320 But what I'd like you to do is, you know he's talking about abortion, I know he's talking about abortion, but just for a moment, pretend he's talking about vaccine passports and think, how can someone say he's pro-choice and that doctors shouldn't rule your body on abortion, but demand that exact thing when it comes to these new and not yet fully approved vaccines?
00:23:23.900 Take a look at this.
00:23:24.680 I think it's clear that there's something fundamental that Erin O'Toole doesn't understand.
00:23:31.260 Pro-choice doesn't mean the freedom of doctors to choose.
00:23:35.800 It means the freedom of women to choose. 0.98
00:23:41.480 Leaders have to be unequivocal on that.
00:23:44.520 And once again, Erin O'Toole is not, and he's saying certain things to some people and it's opposite to others.
00:23:50.940 That's not good enough.
00:23:51.960 Rachel Aiello, CTV News.
00:23:53.520 You're attacking the Conservatives today over their position on conscience rights.
00:23:57.120 However, in your legislation on assisted dying, you protected doctors' freedom of choice of conscience.
00:24:02.860 If the concern now is doctor referrals, why haven't you and would a Liberal government move legislation to further enshrine abortion rights?
00:24:09.940 I think it's very clear that the Conservatives, Conservative Party once again, doesn't understand what pro-choice actually means.
00:24:21.680 Pro-choice isn't the power for doctors to choose.
00:24:25.320 It's the power for women to choose. 1.00
00:24:27.740 And that is what we are going to continue to defend unequivocally.
00:24:32.300 And quite frankly, the Conservatives have demonstrated time and time again that they will not.
00:24:37.420 Following up.
00:24:38.340 With respect, you didn't answer the question.
00:24:39.880 If you want to, you could.
00:24:41.020 Spencer, I noticed he gave the word-for-word same answer two times when she asked it.
00:24:46.680 And in a rare moment there, the reporter acknowledged, I think it was a CTV reporter, that he didn't give an answer.
00:24:52.560 That's the Liberal line on abortion.
00:24:54.280 And I've heard it so often, I could probably say it myself from memory.
00:24:57.720 But just to hear him say, doctors don't get to rule you.
00:25:01.160 Doctors don't get to choose. 0.99
00:25:03.160 And I'm thinking of Dr. Theresa Tam and every provincial and municipal public health officer that has ruled us,
00:25:10.400 that has got to choose for a year and a half.
00:25:12.160 And by the way, some people could and probably should choose the vaccine.
00:25:16.760 But for this guy to say doctors don't have the power, has he not been listening to himself for the last year and a half?
00:25:24.340 Yeah, I mean, like, personally, I'm vaccinated, right?
00:25:26.540 And I don't think that means that, you know, people who make a different choice should lose any rights.
00:25:30.520 And I thought that was supposed to be the pro-choice position.
00:25:33.080 But, of course, the thing with Justin Trudeau is he doesn't really have any beliefs except expanding his own power, right?
00:25:38.200 So he's got polling that says that the line you saw him use twice is a good line for the polls.
00:25:44.160 I mean, he's got polling, I guess, that says forcing people or, you know, coercing people to be vaccinated.
00:25:48.960 It also polls well, so he's doing that.
00:25:51.280 And then he'll get a poll saying something else.
00:25:52.960 So that's what he'll do, right?
00:25:53.960 I mean, and, you know, it's like what you saw, you know, with the mandate he talked about for the public service.
00:26:00.400 He's just saying this stuff without doing anything in government to actually push for it, right?
00:26:05.100 I mean, and you see him continuously now getting tripped up where you saw the question there.
00:26:09.500 Oh, so you're going to mandate doctors to have to perform, you know, government-assisted suicide or assisted death?
00:26:16.980 And he doesn't have an answer for that because he obviously hasn't thought of it, just like he didn't have an answer for it.
00:26:21.280 So are you going to fire, you know, thousands of civil servants if they choose not to get vaccinated?
00:26:24.940 He doesn't have an answer for that either, right?
00:26:26.560 So he's just saying all this stuff because he thinks it polls well and he thinks it's going to divide the country to his benefit without really thinking it through.
00:26:34.480 And I hope people will actually notice that and see that and see that this guy is really just making stuff up as he goes along.
00:26:40.280 No concern for facts, no concern for governing.
00:26:43.180 It's just all about dividing people and try to win an election.
00:26:45.780 So just on that basis, you know, that kind of cynicism and willingness to, you know, break the country apart in many ways for his own benefit.
00:26:53.160 And I think, you know, the Liberals need to be severely punished at the polls for doing that.
00:26:57.800 Well, I hope that happens.
00:26:58.900 I'm still doubtful, but there's a flicker of hope out there.
00:27:02.940 Spencer, it's great to see you.
00:27:03.780 I just want to recommend Spencer's article on this subject.
00:27:06.540 It's called, I Don't Think About Monetary Policy, Is the Biggest Gaffe of the Campaign So Far?
00:27:12.300 And you can read that and all of Spencer's thoughts at spencerfernando.com.
00:27:16.580 Take care, my friend.
00:27:17.160 Thanks for your time.
00:27:18.540 All right.
00:27:18.800 Take care.
00:27:19.360 All right.
00:27:19.760 There you have it.
00:27:20.360 Stay with us.
00:27:21.020 More ahead.
00:27:23.160 We've got 17 journalists out there.
00:27:35.460 You know, that's a lot of, some of those journalists also work behind the scenes.
00:27:38.560 They edit and do things like that.
00:27:39.720 But we have 17 different people out in the fields doing stories.
00:27:45.060 And I'm just talking about in Canada.
00:27:46.420 I'm not even including our two Australian reporters, Avi Yomini and Alexandra, who does written work down there.
00:27:53.160 So we've got some very interesting stories coming your way.
00:27:56.540 I spoke to Mocha Bazirgan, who was out in Victoria, B.C. today at a Trudeau event.
00:28:02.120 I don't want to give away his story because it's such an interesting one.
00:28:04.980 And I'll just tell you two things about it.
00:28:07.940 He wasn't allowed to go to the official part.
00:28:12.800 But he waited outside.
00:28:16.040 And what he saw outside was far, far more interesting.
00:28:21.960 I'll let him tell you that story.
00:28:23.600 We'll have that video for you tomorrow.
00:28:25.220 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, say you at home, good night.
00:28:31.260 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:28:32.280 And keep fighting for freedom.