EZRA LEVANT ｜ 'For Canada' campaign launches against Mark Carney, the slippery globalist
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I m setting up a third party campaign group, separate from Rebel News, to fight against the Liberals in the election. Here s a four-minute clip from a video I recorded yesterday from home explaining why I m doing it.
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Hello, my friends. The election is on. I want to talk to you a little bit about what Rebel News is doing.
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I made an announcement over the weekend. I'm going to expand on that.
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Rebel News is going to do journalism, but I am setting up a third-party campaign group,
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which is separate to Rebel News. It's going to fight against the liberals hard.
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I'll give you the details, but first let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus.
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It's the video version of this podcast. Just go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe.
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It's $8 a month, and you get all the video content that goes with this podcast
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and the satisfaction of keeping Rebel News strong.
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Tonight, we're going to battle in the election as journalists, but also as a third-party campaign group.
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It's March 24th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Oh, hi, everybody. Yesterday was a very busy day. The election has been called.
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The candidates are off and running, and I announced yesterday that we are going to start a project
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called a third-party campaign, and by we, I mean me. It's separate from Rebel News,
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and that's an important point. Here, let me play for you a four-minute video where I explain it.
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I recorded this yesterday from home. Take a look.
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Oh, hi, everybody. The election is just being called on April 28th.
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We have five weeks to expose Mark Carney, to vet him, to show Canadians who he really is,
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a Canadian in name only who hasn't lived here in a decade,
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a globalist who carries three passports and calls himself European, not Canadian,
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an insider who rigged the liberal leadership vote to disqualify his opponents
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and block 250,000 voters, an oligarch who pledged his loyalty to the World Economic Forum
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and the United Nations, and finally, a slippery banker who just weeks ago voted to move his own
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company from Canada to New York. So we've got our work cut out for us as journalists,
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but I am doing something different this time. I have set up what Elections Canada calls a
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third-party campaign to fight against Mark Carney directly. By registering my third-party group
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with Elections Canada, I can raise and spend up to $600,000 in this election. That's enough to do
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everything from renting billboard trucks to sending out brochures targeting different politicians to
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running national TV ads if we want. And the amazing thing about a third-party campaign,
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I've discovered, is that unlike political parties, there is no limit on how much people can donate
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to it. Canadians can donate a maximum of $1,750 to each registered political party, and the same
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towards each party's candidates. But those limits do not apply to third-party groups. So you can donate
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any amount. That's on top of whatever you might give to a political party. So there's going to be a lot
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of ads out there, including from the conservative party, and I have no interest in simply repeating
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their messages. I plan to use my third-party group to go further and harder than anything the
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conservatives would do, including talking about things the conservatives themselves might be squeamish
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about. For example, Mark Carney's close family ties with Ghislaine Maxwell. That's Jeffrey Epstein's
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sex trafficker. The CBC would never talk about that, and I'm not sure if even the conservatives would
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either, but we already are. Our billboard truck is literally in Ottawa today with that message. If you're
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excited about this third-party campaign idea, go to a website I've set up at forcanada.ca. That's
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f-o-r-canada.ca. Now, I originally didn't plan to do this. The idea came to me from the police
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who were interrogating me for publishing my book, The Libranos, in the 2019 election. They said all I
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had to do was register my book with the government, and I'd be fine. And I thought that was an outrageous
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infringement of my freedom of speech, and I fought it in court for five years. I mean,
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that's banana republic stuff, but then it dawned on me. Registering in the election lets me campaign
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as if I were a political party, including raising and spending money. And in some ways, that gives
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me even more power than a political party because there are no limits on individual donors. So I'm
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doing it. I'm setting up a campaign group. We've got five weeks to stop Mark Carney. Rebel News will do
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important work journalistically, but this third-party group I've set up will do other work that Rebel News
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can't. I have made the first donation. Will you join me? Go to forcanada.ca, F-O-R Canada. I've set this
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third-party group up in my personal capacity to keep the funds separate from Rebel News. Rebel will do
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journalism. For Canada will do the political heavy lifting. And the amazing thing is donations to the
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third-party group like For Canada are unlimited. The only limit is on our spending. But that limit is so
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high, $600,000. It really is amazing. Anyways, go to forcanada.ca and let's go and fight this
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campaign. Now, I've had a few letters today saying, don't run as a third-party candidate. That will
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split the vote. Don't worry, I'm not running as a candidate. And let me explain a little bit more
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what third-party means. In the United States, sometimes people say, oh, there's a third-party
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candidate who's going to run. Remember, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was considering running as a third-party
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candidate. Historically, Ross Perot ran as a third-party candidate. I absolutely understand
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that. In the context of a candidate, a third-party candidate typically is a vote splitter, a principled
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person quite often, but someone who splits the vote, someone who really has no chance. I'm not
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doing that. But in Canada, we call our super PACs third-party campaign groups. You probably heard the
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word super PAC again from the United States. That's basically a group that is unaffiliated
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with candidates. It's allowed to campaign. They're not running candidates. They're fighting on issues
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or they're promoting or attacking a candidate or another, but they are not fielding candidates
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themselves. That's what we're doing. In Canada, it's called a third-party campaign group. And we
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studied the rules very carefully. The only reason we're considering this, as I mentioned in the video,
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is because of the terrible experience I went through about five years ago when I published the book,
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The Libranos, which was a legitimate journalistic act of publishing and political commentary. As you
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know, there were 24 books published about Justin Trudeau in the 2019 election. Mine was the only one
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prosecuted, the only one sentenced and fined for obvious reasons. Mine was a conservative critique of
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Trudeau. But when I was interrogated by the two 30-year veterans of the RCMP, they made it clear that
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all I had to do was submit to the government and register with the government as an author.
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And you might recall that clip here. Take a look at the guy saying that. Here's this guy saying,
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why didn't you register with the government? Take a look.
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Today we're here about Rebel News Network Limited.
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Oh, I know that. And I'm just asking you to confirm that not a single other loving book of Trudeau
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is being investigated. But once we're done, if you believe that there should be complaints that are...
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No, because I'm not a censor like you. I'm not a bully and a censor. I'm not a bureaucrat
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looking to justify my budget like you. I go out and earn my living every day, fella.
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You call in authors to grill them about a book criticizing your boss. Think about who you are.
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We call the director of Rebel News Network Limited.
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Yeah, who happens to be the author of the book. I think there's going to be a chapter
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Well, why didn't I register with the government? The same reason I don't register my typewriter
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with the government. I don't live in communist Romania. And I'm not picking that country by
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random. Romania actually had a law that if you had a typewriter in the Cold War, you had to register
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it with the government. And they took a typing sample. You know, those old timey typewriters
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where you went ka-chunk, ka-chunk, ka-chunk, and the keys went like that. I don't know if you're old
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enough to remember what an old timey typewriter was like. But every typewriter, some of the keys
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were just slightly twisted or tilted or out of sync. And so the way that the keys actually struck
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the paper were like a fingerprint. No two typewriters were identical. So if you had a typewriter in
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Romania, you had to take it at the police station, they would take a sample, and you were sort of
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licensed for that typewriter. But if they ever found samizdat, that's the Soviet word for, you
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know, agitprop, anything that was a subversive publication, they would compare it to the typewriters
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they had on file. It's a long way of describing what it's like for an author to have to register
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for the government. So naturally, I was appalled. But my appall did not do anything to win the court
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battle. I actually lost all the way up to the Federal Court of Appeal. I was very disappointed
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in the court. And I know that that's a violation on my freedoms, but I lost the trial. I lost the
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hearing. So here we are in the doorstep of the 2025 campaign, and I'm going to do stuff that is just as
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partisan as a book or more. You know, our lovable truck, right? We got that gorgeous, beautiful
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billboard truck. That thing is going to be running at least eight hours a day, every day. I mean,
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we're just going full tilt with the truck. And of course, we're going to hammer the liberals. What
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do you think we're going to do? And I know in my bones, if we don't set up a registered third-party
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campaign group and do what that cop said, I know I'm going to be in front of a prosecution one more
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time. And the trouble is, second offense, second conviction, they're going to wallop me. They're
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going to give me a $100,000 fine. And that's just not the way we're going to use our donors' money.
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Here, we're going to use it to fight the bad guys. So I absolutely object to becoming a registered
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campaign group. I think it's a violation of my civil liberties, but I have to do it while that is the
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law. So I am doing that. And I'm doing it in my personal capacity because I don't want to
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co-mingle Rebel News stuff. Rebel News is going to continue doing journalism. I'm not going to continue
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to be the boss of Rebel News. Obviously, I'm going to be a journalist with Rebel News every single
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day. But I have set up this group called ForCanada.ca, its own bank account. I put in the
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first donation. And what I love about it, here's sort of the trick, as I mentioned in that video I
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recorded, is that Canadians can give an unlimited amount of dough. So if you're wealthy enough to
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be able to give $1,750 to the Conservative Party or the People's Party or whatever you're doing,
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that's as much as you're allowed to give under law. But there is actually no limit to what you can give
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to a super PAC, or as they call it in Canada, third-party campaign group. So I think that's
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awesome. So I didn't want to go down this road. I object. I'm doing it under protest. But if the
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government insists I set up a third-party campaign group, all right, let's get ready to rumble.
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I'm sort of excited about it. So I've told you the structure of it. It's just a third party. The
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purpose of it is to not get arrested. I can also tell you what it's not, is it is not a campaign
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with party candidates. So I want to let you know, I am not going to split the vote by running against
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anybody. So there were some people who worried about that. So what will we do? Well, first of all,
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we're not allowed to collude with other groups, which is fine. I have no interest in doing that.
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I have my own issues that I want to focus on like a laser. And here's what I want to emphasize. And
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I touched on that in my video from yesterday. I'm not interested in making the same arguments
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that Pierre Polyev and the conservatives are. First of all, they're good at it. Second of all,
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they have a huge budget. I think it's around 25 million bucks or maybe even more. So they don't
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need me talking about, for example, how the per capita GDP in Canada has gone down. They don't
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need me to talk about how housing prices have gone up, how inflation has made even food expensive.
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I don't think they need that. They're going to talk about that.
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What are they not going to talk about? Things that they are worried about, you know, being accused
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of being too right-wing, things that are maybe a little bit politically incorrect. But that's sort
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of where Rebel News lives and thrives. Let me give you an example. Immigration.
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Mark Carney just hired the head of something called the Century Initiative. Have you heard of that?
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It's insane. It's wacko stuff. It is extremist fringe stuff. The Century Initiative, as the name implies,
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would bring 100 million people to Canada. So it would bring in so many migrants that our population
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would be 100 million. That's psycho. And the leader of the Century Initiative was just hired as a senior
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staffer by Mark Carney. By the way, if you brought in 60 million new Canadians, you're not bringing them
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in from the United States or from Denmark or from other first world liberal democracies. You can't
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find 60 million people who would come to Canada. Economically, that would likely be a step down for
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most of them, given how we're doing. You're going to find those people in Pakistan and Bangladesh and
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Syria and Africa and people that do not have economic or cultural fit with Canada. That's the Trudeau
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approach to immigration, bringing people from Gaza. You could bring 2 million people in from Gaza like
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that. It's not going to help the Gazans and it's going to be a detonation, both physically and morally,
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in Canada. That's how you get 100 million immigrants into this country. Now, you can't talk about that
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in polite company because you'll be called racist or whatever. It's not racist to want limited
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immigration that's a fit both quantitatively and qualitatively. That is not racist at all,
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which is, but it's so scary that the Conservative Party probably won't talk about it. I don't know how
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strong the Conservatives will be talking about the Hamas protests on our city streets. I think they're
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fairly brave on that stuff, but I just don't know. How about transgender extremism? Not only has Mark
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Carney said that he's all in for woke, but we learned from an expose in our friends at Juno.com
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that Mark Carney's daughter is a trans activist who actually went to a radical clinic in the UK
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called the Tavistock Clinic. Now, some people said, oh, you can't talk about that. Why are you picking
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on his daughter? Well, first of all, she's a grown adult. Second of all, she's an activist who talks
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about her politics and in fact is a public campaigner. The reason it's relevant is not
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because Mark Carney's daughter says those things, but because it's relevant to Mark Carney himself.
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What does he believe? And the fact that he would go along with sending his daughter to such a
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terrible and controversial place as a Tavistock Center, I think demands some questions.
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Also questions about Mark Carney's loyalty and his citizenship. Just how many days in 2024 did he
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even live in Canada? Was he here for even 30 days? Why does he have an Irish citizenship? I understand
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the British one because he went to work for the Bank of England, but the only reason I can think of
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for him to get an Irish citizenship is it's some sort of tax dodge. I'd like to hear him answer that
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question, and I'd like to have the question put. And I'm not sure if the conservatives would go there.
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I'd like to ask more about his World Economic Forum exploits. I don't think the conservatives are
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going to talk that much about it because they'll be called conspiracy theorists by the CBC. I don't
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care what the CBC calls me. Every single year I go to the World Economic Forum and I see with my own
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eyes the truth of it. It's no conspiracy. In fact, the last time I saw Mark Carney was at the World
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Economic Forum and I asked him who he works for and he told me the UN. Here's a clip of that.
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Sorry, I don't... When you meet with the PM on climate, are you there on your own behalf or are
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you there on behalf of a company law? I am the UN special envoy on climate action and finance.
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And what do you make? It's a bitter cold in Canada down to minus 40s. Yeah, back home in Alberta. It was
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minus 40. And Gilboa was saying go to electric cars. That doesn't work.
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Back in for a week. Well, you've got to have... Watch out. You've got to have the full... You've
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got to have full capacity, right? And you've got to have... You know, one of the things we're
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going to need to do in Canada, across Canada, and this is, you know, for the benefit of jobs
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in the country is build out the grid. You can't switch before you build it out, number one.
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Number two, one of the things you need, regardless of the form of energy you have, we have, is
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also to have what's called a capacity market alongside the electricity market.
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So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty since we haven't done those foundational
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things? Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario,
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Canada, Australia, for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build. You have
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to build. And it's a time to build. And look, we're in a position where we in Canada are in
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a position where we have been an energy superpower. We can continue to be an energy superpower.
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We've always had the ability to develop new sources of energy.
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But the PM said there was no market for natural gas. How do you feel about natural gas, especially
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to relieve Ukraine and other Europeans from Russian gas? How come they're buying Russian
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gas and Qatari gas, but Justin Trudeau won't let them buy Canadian gas?
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Well, we would have to get to build the trains in order to do what are called LNG trains in order
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to get the gas to them. Well, this is a long interview, isn't it?
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What exactly did you do with the UN? And how is it that while you're working for the UN and the Bank
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of England, you're running these for-profit ventures on the side? How is it that he becomes
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a hundred millionaire? Or is he a billionaire? He won't tell us. How do you make so much money
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while being a public servant? I just don't think it squares. And finally, the campaign we're already
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running about Ghislaine Maxwell. If you remember Ghislaine Maxwell, that was Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand
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woman, the sex trafficker. She's in prison right now. She was hanging out with Mark Carney and
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Carney's wife. They were friends. Mark Carney also hung out with Prince Andrew. And I'm a monarchist,
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but holy mackerel. The reason Prince Andrew was never seen in public anymore is because the queen,
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before she passed away, basically banished him because of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Well, Mark Carney has a friendship with Epstein or Maxwell. He won't answer questions about it,
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but those are questions that ought to be asked. My point is, there are many things that our group,
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for Canada, that's what I'm calling our third party group, can talk about. Whether it's immigration
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and the sensory initiative, whether it's Hamas or trans-extremism, or questioning how a man who
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is disloyal to us, has lived away from us, who's got alternative citizenships, how he can suddenly
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come back and seek to rule us. I want to know more about his World Economic Forum role and his United
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Nation role and his role with Epstein. And those are the kind of things that Rebel News is going to do.
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Rebel News is going to do it journalistically. And it's going to happen over here. But over here,
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our third party campaign group is going to weaponize that stuff in a political sense.
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We're going to deploy brochures. We're going to deploy ads. We're going to run the billboard truck.
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In fact, I've spoken today with several other independent media companies and I've asked them to send over
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ad proposals. In other words, For Canada isn't just going to use content generated by Rebel News,
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but also work with, I don't want to give it away yet, but you'll see where we're going to pop up.
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So we're having a distinction between the two. Rebel News is going to continue doing great
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journalism, but the third party campaign group is going to battle the bad guys in politics. And the
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reason we're setting that up is because the government told me to. Now, those aren't words
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I normally say, but you know what? Bring it on. And I'm looking forward to it. And maybe if there is
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a result at the end of this election where Pierre Polyev wins, and I hope he does, maybe we'll have
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more freedom of speech and freedom of politics in Canada where I don't have to register my typewriter
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with the government, so to speak. But in the meantime, fine, I'll follow the rules,
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and we'll use those rules to win. Stay with us. More ahead.
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Well, big news yesterday. The election was finally called. Mark Carney going to the governor general
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and requesting that the writ be dropped, as they say. Both parties, both main parties raring to go.
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It's remarkable to me to see the decline of the NDP. I think people who told pollsters for the last
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several years that they were voting NDP, I think it was just sort of almost a public statement of
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how noble they were. It was a kind of virtue signaling. But in the end, when it comes down to
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the two real choices for prime minister, do you want Pierre Polyev or do you want Mark Carney,
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I think a lot of that NDP vote is going to migrate over to the liberals like it did in 2015 to put
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Justin Trudeau over the top? That, I think, is at least half of the reason that the gap is narrowing.
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Pierre Polyev having a 20-point lead just a couple of months ago now, it's basically all tied up.
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Part of that is, I think, Mark Carney changes it up. Anyone is better than Justin Trudeau, but I think part of
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it is the amazing vanishing Jagmeet Singh. But how is the election going to go? And will Alberta have
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anything to do with it, really? Or is Alberta essentially written off by both parties as a
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place where votes can't be moved? How will Donald Trump's threats of tariffs play out? And basically,
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let's just chat about everything. Joining us now to talk about these things is my friend Lauren
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Gunter, senior columnist at the Edmonton Sun. Lauren, in a way, parties typically don't waste
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time in the campaign talking to people they have a lock on and talking to people they have no chance
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on. It's always those battleground ridings in the US. They call them the battleground states.
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Wouldn't make a lot of sense for Pierre Polyev to spend too much time in Calgary,
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for example, or for Mark Carney to spend too much time in Montreal. What are the battleground
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regions in the country and what are the battleground issues?
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Well, let's start with the regions first. The battleground regions, to me,
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are the ones that they've always been over the last decade and a half. It's Quebec, Ontario,
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and the lower mainland of BC. Because you can almost form a government if you take Montreal,
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Ottawa, the greater Toronto area, and Vancouver proper. Typically, the Conservative Party, whether
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it's the Canadian Alliance or the Reform Party, or now the Conservative Party of Canada, takes the
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suburbs of Vancouver. But if you get Vancouver proper, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and you count on
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30 seats from Atlantic Canada, you form a government. And I think that that's where the battle is going
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to be again this time. It didn't look like that for a while. It looked like the Conservatives had a lock
00:24:23.580
on Ontario. It looked like the BQ had a lock on Quebec. But Justin Trudeau goes. And everything that
00:24:33.340
the Liberals have done for 10 years, which was completely incompetent, gets tagged to Justin Trudeau
00:24:42.940
when he leaves. Now, the whole group around Trudeau is now around Carney. These are the same brains trust
00:24:50.220
that ran the economy into the ground, opened up the doors to unlimited immigration, increased crime in
00:24:57.500
the country by getting rid of any restrictions on bail, basically, and on and on and on. And yet,
00:25:06.860
this whole election comes down to two people, Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau,
00:25:14.300
because he's gone and the Liberals can then go to everyone and say,
00:25:18.060
we wanted to do the right thing for 10 years. Yeah, we were just aching, aching to do the right
00:25:23.900
thing. But but Justin Trudeau kept us from doing it. So now that he's gone, we will do all those
00:25:28.700
right things. Yeah. And and a lot of Ontario, and it seems like Montreal area, Quebec voters going,
00:25:36.300
okay, that sounds good to us. You know, so it just perplexes me. I am a fan of in NFL football,
00:25:47.740
I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. And for 20 years, they have not lived up to their promise.
00:25:55.340
And I go every week and I hope in front of my TV, and I hope that they're going to get better.
00:26:00.140
And now I'm starting to feel exactly the same way about the Conservative Party of Canada. I,
00:26:05.260
everything conspires against them. In this case, Donald Trump has come out with his,
00:26:11.980
his preposterous, totally, utterly preposterous tariff threats. And and his insults at Canada,
00:26:21.660
like, I cannot believe this. Oh, it's a very nasty country. They're very nasty. They're hard to deal
00:26:26.940
with. Yeah, well, wouldn't that be a good thing? If if in trade negotiations, we were tough to deal
00:26:33.100
with, but I'm not sure we are. You know, the last time we had a we had trade talks with the Trump
00:26:39.180
administration, we tried to throw in indigenous issues and gender equity as two things in a trade
00:26:47.340
deal. Now, that doesn't make us nasty. I think it makes us naive. But but I think you've come down to
00:26:54.940
Justin Trudeau is gone. And much of the country is really worried that Donald Trump means it when
00:27:02.060
he says he's going to annex Canada. And so they're now deciding who would be best to stop him from
00:27:08.220
doing that, Pierre Paulyev or Mark Carney. So it's a false issue. But that's at this point,
00:27:14.140
what is driving the agenda in the election, it could change over the next five weeks.
00:27:19.100
But right now, as of day one, we're day two. It's the annexation and the absence of Justin Trudeau.
00:27:27.420
And I am saddened for the prospects of the Conservative Party.
00:27:33.100
I tell you, just a couple of months ago, it looked like a super majority. I mean,
00:27:36.300
it looked like the liberals wouldn't have a seat really west of Ontario, maybe one or two.
00:27:41.820
And it was a pleasure to see Pierre Paulyev talking about fairly strong conservative ideas
00:27:49.420
in Toronto, in places and just getting huge crowds. And and I think that's been taken away. I think
00:27:56.300
you're right. People are afraid. I mean, Donald Trump has that Manhattan brawler style. He gives
00:28:03.180
people nicknames they don't like. He yanks their chain. And most of it's for banter. And but,
00:28:09.740
you know, I think Canadians aren't used to it. I think some Canadians, it revives an ancient
00:28:17.500
anti-Americanism that frankly goes back to the founding of our country. I think our Trump
00:28:23.500
derangement syndrome media magnify it. And to be candid, Donald Trump's remarks have permitted all
00:28:31.100
of those interpretations. And I see that the second lady, Usha Vance, is in Greenland. And so the idea of
00:28:37.980
America increasing its territory does not feel as far fetched as perhaps it should.
00:28:45.260
I think it would be incredible if Trump's tariff potshots
00:28:51.580
saved the Liberal Party that was so rightfully destined to the trash heap. I don't know.
00:28:57.660
I still think the Conservatives are going to win, by the way.
00:28:59.900
I do. I do too. And let me give you just one example. First of all, Carney is still benefiting
00:29:07.900
from his honeymoon. And that's going to wear off. Does it wear off before April 28th or after April
00:29:14.700
28th? I think he really only has about a two week honeymoon. And I think the last three weeks
00:29:19.660
of the campaign are going to be very different from this first week or the first two weeks.
00:29:25.020
Fingers crossed that that's going to happen. But Poliev had a rally in suburban, well,
00:29:33.260
into the north end of Toronto on the first day of the election campaign. And they had so many people
00:29:41.100
show up that they had to turn away hundreds of people. So, you know, the example that I used recently
00:29:50.380
in a column was in Iowa, just before the presidential election in November 24th, there was a poll by the
00:29:58.220
Des Moines Register, which is very well respected.
00:30:02.620
Kamala Harris was ahead by three points in Iowa. She was going to win Iowa. She lost Iowa, I think, by 15 points.
00:30:09.900
So, you know, you could you can tell me that we're back to the old way where a lot of people say they're
00:30:16.620
voting liberal because socially that's acceptable. But really, they're voting for they're intending
00:30:23.100
to vote for the conservatives. I mean, one of the reasons that Jagmeet Singh has spent the first two
00:30:27.340
days of the campaign hammering at Pierre Poliev and not at Mark Carney is not just because he had he
00:30:34.780
spent the last four years as a sycophant for the Liberal Party. That's part of the reason. But the bigger
00:30:39.980
reason is that Pierre Poliev has stolen blue collar voters away from the NDP. And that's largely who
00:30:49.340
pushed Trump over the top in the United States. So is it possible that pollsters don't catch these
00:30:55.980
people? They don't answer numbers on their phones that they don't know? They're reluctant to do polls
00:31:02.940
or they tell pollsters the things they think pollsters want to hear? Yeah. So is it possible that instead of
00:31:09.420
like a two or three point gap in favor of the conservatives at the moment, we're closer
00:31:15.100
actually to a six to seven or eight point gap? Yes, I think so. But we'll know much better after
00:31:25.340
Mark Carney has had to stand up in public and answer a lot of questions. I know he's not popular with the
00:31:31.580
Parliamentary Press Gallery, which is kind of funny. Right. Because, of course, on one level,
00:31:36.540
they're all so excited that he's there. He says, you remember the initial response from the media in the
00:31:44.940
United States, the legacy media in the United States, when Kamala Harris took over from Joe Biden?
00:31:49.420
Yeah. Oh, really? Oh, thank you. Absolutely. Oh, she's one of the most caustic politicians
00:31:57.020
I can remember in the last 10 or 15 years. And yet she had this, wow, we're all about joy.
00:32:03.900
We're just the campaign of joy. Yeah. And the American media lapped that up. ABC did the first
00:32:11.900
and only presidential debate. It was so biased. Like you and I have complained lots of times about the
00:32:19.740
Star and the Globe and the CBC and CTV increasingly now, which is just a mouthpiece for the Liberal Party.
00:32:27.660
I had never seen bias like I saw those first six weeks after Kamala Harris replaced Joe Biden.
00:32:34.620
Like never seen that kind of bias. They were so excited that there was somebody who might beat
00:32:40.940
Trump that they didn't care how biased they were. And I think we're seeing some of that now. Like
00:32:48.140
this whole idea that Trump can annex Canada. How? How do you do that? But the CBC says, oh,
00:32:57.180
there's a real threat to Canadian sovereignty here and the Star and the Globe and everything. Oh my
00:33:03.020
goodness. He, he, he's going to try and take us over. Well, until he starts to amass divisions on
00:33:10.300
the southern border, there's nothing they can do about this. There is no legal body in the world he
00:33:18.300
can go to, to apply for annexation of Canada. We would have to have a referendum where we overwhelmingly
00:33:26.140
voted to ask to join the United States. Well, he's, he has ticked off Canadians so much that a referendum
00:33:32.300
right now would be 70, 75%, 80%, maybe more. No. Yeah. So there is no way we're going to get
00:33:40.460
annexed, but they play right into this liberal fear mongering stuff by saying, oh, please don't
00:33:46.460
annex us, Mr. Trump. And it's, it's ridiculous. You know, um, I see in the news that Mark Carney says
00:33:56.940
he's not rushing to meet with Trump, but I also see that he has requested a conversation with Trump
00:34:03.500
and Trump. And again, this is all just secondhand reports that Trump has declined the meeting until
00:34:09.180
the election is over, which makes some sense, by the way. I mean, that's typically the way it's done.
00:34:15.020
Yeah. I mean, why, first of all, why would you negotiate in the middle of the campaign?
00:34:18.140
Yep. Um, and second of all, you might have a totally different guy. I mean, just,
00:34:23.900
and this is all on the liberals for their whole messing things up. But Danielle Smith, who I think
00:34:29.740
is being the most productive, uh, diplomatic representative to the States, who is not a Trump
00:34:37.020
hater, who actually went to the inauguration. She's been trying to lower the temperature on both
00:34:43.900
sides of the border, by the way. And I, I think she's been the opposite of some inflammatory.
00:34:48.700
I think Doug Florida has been insane by saying he wants to turn off electricity to the Northeast
00:34:55.180
United States, including their hospitals and schools with a smile on his face. And I know
00:34:59.260
that's just bullyish banter, but I don't think it works to match Trump with a mini Trump. I don't
00:35:06.300
know if that works, but here's Danielle Smith a little while back on Breitbart radio, which is a,
00:35:11.020
you know, satellite radio show trying to lower the temperature. And she was pounced on as this was
00:35:18.060
some sort of, uh, you know, disloyalty. It sounds to me like she was just trying to cool the jets.
00:35:24.300
Hey, let's take a listen to it. There's a couple minutes long. Let me play a couple minutes of it,
00:35:27.740
Lauren. Let's just take a listen. Before the tariff war, I would say, yes. I mean,
00:35:31.500
Pierre, uh, Pierre Paul Yev is the name of the conservative party leader, and he was miles ahead of,
00:35:37.500
of, uh, of Justin Trudeau. But, uh, because of the, uh, of what we see is unjust and unfair
00:35:43.260
tariffs, it's actually caused an increase in the support for the liberals. And so that's what I fear
00:35:49.020
is that the longer this dispute goes on politicians posture, and it seems to be benefiting the liberals
00:35:55.980
right now. Um, so I, I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I've told administration
00:36:00.460
officials. Let's just put things on pause so we can get through an election. Let's have the best person
00:36:05.900
at the table, make the argument for how they would deal with it. And I think that's Pierre Paul Yev.
00:36:09.740
And I do agree with you that if we, if we do have, uh, Pierre as, uh, um, as our prime minister,
00:36:16.140
then I, I think that there's, uh, there's a number of things that we could do together.
00:36:19.980
It goes on a little bit longer, but you can get the gist of it. And I think,
00:36:23.020
I think she's right in a number of ways. First of all, it's in the country's interest that we lower
00:36:26.460
the temperature and it's in the conservative party's interest. Now this was somehow seized upon
00:36:31.420
as some great act of disloyalty. What do you think about the reaction to the, to do this from,
00:36:36.620
uh, from some Canadian journalists and politicians? I got a phone call last night. Would I be on a radio
00:36:43.660
show, a talk show this morning to talk about Danielle Smith's incendiary remarks, uh, about, uh,
00:36:52.140
uh, uh, Trump and the election? I thought anything about this? I don't know. Like I'd,
00:36:59.100
I'd heard the Breitbart interview two weeks ago when it came out, but what I couldn't understand,
00:37:04.220
and I opened the papers this morning and they are all headlining Smith does Polyev in with
00:37:11.020
controversial remarks to far right radio. Well, first of all, if Breitbart is far right,
00:37:18.620
then you have to, when you're describing ABC, NBC, and to a lesser extent CBS in the United States,
00:37:24.860
you have to say far left. Yeah. Uh, you know, I, I, so first of all, they frame this in such a way
00:37:32.220
that she looks like she's a nut bar for talking to Breitbart. She's not. And you know, I, you,
00:37:38.220
you get the same with a mutual friend of ours frequently, a guy named Ben Shapiro, who is always
00:37:44.700
portrayed as an extremist far right. He's not, he's, he's an old timey conservative.
00:37:50.460
He's the most mainstream conservative pundit in America.
00:37:53.420
Exactly. He's sort of, he's what conservative is.
00:37:56.700
So she says, well, you know, I, I think that Trump with all of these threats and the talk of
00:38:02.780
annexation in 51st states and things is helping the liberal party. So I have told, uh, administration
00:38:09.500
officials and, and these are people that she mostly met at the giant oil trade show in Houston,
00:38:15.580
a couple of weeks back. She said, I've told administration officials, it would be smarter
00:38:19.660
if they would pause until where our election is over and see who wins.
00:38:24.380
Okay. I think I've written that about eight times. Um, so I don't understand why that's a
00:38:30.220
controversy, but all of a sudden, all the same people I mentioned earlier, the CBC, CTV,
00:38:36.140
the globe, the star, they're all saying, Oh, Oh my goodness. Daniel Smith is trying to throw the
00:38:43.100
election for, for Pierre Paul. Yeah. Okay. So Doug Ford goes and has breakfast,
00:38:49.900
very public breakfast at a diner with Mark Carney. Right. He then later says that Mark Carney is
00:38:56.860
very bright. And a third occasion after the prime minister and the first ministers met
00:39:03.900
by teleconference last week, he says, I can sure work with him. He seems like a great guy.
00:39:09.820
That is an endorsement of Mark Carney. Now that does not create any of the rankle
00:39:16.700
that Smith's comments raised. And Smith is just saying what every other conservative columnist,
00:39:25.740
many liberal columnists in the country have said, and that is that Trump has revived the
00:39:32.380
liberals' fortunes. We said that when we began this interview, that Trump's threats
00:39:38.300
have saved the liberals from near certain extermination. But somehow this has become,
00:39:45.180
the first day, I'm sure what has happened is the liberal war room heard this interview two weeks ago,
00:39:51.420
and they said, Oh, this is going to be good for us. Let's sit on this for a little while. And then we'll
00:39:55.820
feed it to all of the people in the mainstream media who we know, and we'll tell them, Oh,
00:40:02.860
can you believe that? Can you believe she would talk to us officials about the Canadian election? And
00:40:10.700
without thinking, because unfortunately, there are too many people in your profession and mine who don't
00:40:16.700
think before they start writing and broadcasting, they said, Oh, they're right. Oh, it's so awful that
00:40:23.660
she's doing this. Yeah. You know, I think a lot of the team Canada stuff is a little hard for me to
00:40:31.980
believe, especially from a leader, Mark Carney with three passports who left Canada. I mean,
00:40:37.020
and even his meeting up with Mike Myers, the comedian who left. And by the way, leave Canada,
00:40:43.580
make it big in America. Find your fortune. I don't begrudge. I mean, half of Saturday Night Live are
00:40:49.900
Canadian comedians. It's the way to do it. And I saw a beautiful clip of Mike Myers saying how much
00:40:56.700
he loved America. He was so honored to become an American citizen. And I don't doubt any of it.
00:41:03.020
I'm sure he felt that way. It's a little bit of chutzpah for these guys who left Canada decades ago
00:41:07.980
to get rich, to come back and call other people disloyal. Mark Carney has a Canadian passport,
00:41:15.660
a British passport because he worked for the Bank of England. Why does he have an Irish passport?
00:41:19.660
The only reason to have an Irish passport is for tax reasons. Unless you're Irish.
00:41:24.460
He enjoys potatoes and a nice stew. He's there because of the tax. I'm sure. How many,
00:41:29.340
how many days in the last year did he actually live in Canada? I'm not willing to take lectures on
00:41:34.380
patriotism from folks who said the Canadian flag was a hate symbol after the trucker convoy. Hey,
00:41:39.900
let's play a quick clip. Here's Pierre Pauly of reacting to what we saw. I just wouldn't mind
00:41:44.940
showing our listeners this and let me know if you have any thoughts on it. Here, take a look.
00:41:48.300
People are free to make their own comments. I speak for myself and let's talk about my agenda.
00:41:53.100
My agenda is to put Canada first for a change. You know, there's a reason why Donald Trump wants
00:41:58.700
the weak out of touch liberals in power. They've handed him control of our economy.
00:42:04.300
You know, Trudeau and Carney raised taxes on work, investment, and small business,
00:42:13.100
driving a half trillion dollars out of our economy to the US. They blocked pipelines,
00:42:18.220
mines, LNG plants, forcing our energy companies to sell 100%, almost 100% of their,
00:42:25.580
their product to the Americans at discount prices. They have buried us in bureaucracy.
00:42:32.620
And Donald Trump knows that a weak out of touch liberal government, given a fourth mandate,
00:42:40.300
will only make Canada a bigger target for him. What we need, and that's why the choice in this
00:42:46.860
election is whether we're going to allow the liberal, we're going to elect weak out of touch
00:42:54.620
liberals to a fourth mandate, or whether it is time to put Canada first for a change with a new
00:43:03.420
conservative government that will axe taxes, build homes, unleash our resources, bring home our jobs,
00:43:13.660
so that we can confront Donald Trump and the Americans from a position of strength.
00:43:19.820
Listen, I think the whole thing was a hullabaloo, as you say. I think Danielle Smith, who's very
00:43:25.580
popular at home, is useful to bash around in that Ottawa-Toronto-Montreal triangle. I saw
00:43:32.220
Danielle Smith just had some, the largest ever fundraising dinners in her province. And you might
00:43:37.900
say that's not reflective of the ordinary person, but I think certainly reflective of her own party,
00:43:41.740
which recently gave her 91% support. I think she's doing a good job defending Alberta's interests
00:43:48.700
against Ottawa, which says they want to shut in the oil, and against America, which says it wants
00:43:53.980
to tariff it. I think she's got a pretty tough job. And I mean, obviously, I'm a fan, but I think she's
00:44:00.220
doing a pretty good job of it. Yeah, I do too. I really do. And it is significant that in Edmonton,
00:44:07.420
Edmonton, Danielle Smith drew 1,500 people to the leaders dinner. This is Redmonton. This is a city
00:44:15.980
that has no elected UCP MLA, none. And she still attracted 1,500 people to her dinner. So that is
00:44:26.140
significant. But two things occurred to me when I watched that Polyev clip there. One is he's got to
00:44:32.780
get smoother. Like he didn't look happy. He didn't look like he was excited to be delivering
00:44:40.300
the message he had. And it was like he was stumbling. Oh, yeah, I memorized this. Now,
00:44:43.820
what comes after this? There is some hesitancy in there that doesn't work really well, because
00:44:50.140
Carney's not going to have that hesitancy on the two or three things that the liberals are going to focus
00:44:56.860
on. But the other thing that occurs to me is that we have been almost three months, certainly since
00:45:04.860
Christmas time, I think, without hearing from Polyev much. There really wasn't much he could do because
00:45:11.500
the liberals shut down parliament. And when you are the leader of the opposition and you don't have
00:45:15.820
daily question period to go after the government there, you can hold rallies. But if the newspapers and
00:45:22.460
radio and TV stations don't send their reporters, there's really not much you can do about that.
00:45:28.380
So we haven't heard from him much for three months. And I think as people start to hear from him
00:45:34.460
again, and they start to hear the message that remember, these are the liberals who raised crime,
00:45:39.740
they doubled the cost of housing, they raised your grocery prices by at least a third and probably
00:45:45.980
closer to a half. And if you let them back into power, they're going to do exactly the same thing.
00:45:51.580
Yes, you might be able to give them a mandate to deal with Trump, but they would take a fourth
00:45:57.500
mandate as proof positive that Canadians want them to have more open immigration. They want
00:46:03.020
us to have higher taxes. They want us to have more environmental regulations. Let's keep the EV
00:46:10.380
mandate that by 2035, all new vehicles in Canada have to be electric. I mean, all of that stuff that was
00:46:17.500
controversial, will still come flooding, but the liberals will take another mandate as proof that
00:46:23.900
that's what Canadians want them to do. It's not, but that's what they will see. And so I think
00:46:29.420
Paulieff has to hammer away, and I think he's prepared to do this. I'm not telling him something
00:46:35.580
he isn't already working on, but they have to hammer away at this is the same crew that's run things for
00:46:42.940
the last 10 years. And you are worse off than you were 10 years ago. Canada is the only G7 country
00:46:50.620
where per capita GDP did not increase in the last decade. The only G7 country where that happened.
00:46:58.460
Italy, Italy's per capita GDP went up 13% in the last decade. And Italy is what used to be called
00:47:05.980
the poor man of Europe. The United States per capita GDP has gone up by almost 22% in the last decade.
00:47:14.140
So our American cousins, whether it was under Biden or under Trump, and to a little extent under Obama,
00:47:21.820
they've come ahead in the last decade. Canadians have not. And that is strictly because of liberal
00:47:26.940
policies. And I think the conservatives have to hammer at that again and again and again.
00:47:32.220
Because if you just say, well, this is a referendum on who'd be better to deal with Trump.
00:47:38.300
Unfortunately, there's an awful lot of Ontario and Quebec voters and perhaps Atlantic Canadian voters
00:47:43.660
who will say, yeah, well, that'd be that Mark Carney guy. Never seen him in action, but we're told by
00:47:49.660
all the right media people that he's so great. Yeah, it really is amazing. I tell you, I certainly don't
00:47:55.340
think anyone would have dreamed of this three months ago. No, but here we are. This is great
00:47:58.940
to catch up with you. Thanks very much for taking the time. I'm optimistic and
00:48:04.700
guardedly optimistic. Yeah, I have to be. Otherwise, it would be tough to
00:48:09.980
The Pope got out of hospital after five weeks in there for pneumonia. Maybe the conservatives
00:48:14.860
can pull us out of that. From your mouth to God's ears. Lauren Guthrie, great to see you again.
00:48:19.420
Yeah, you bet. All right. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:48:34.140
Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on Mark Carney and launching our For Canada campaign.
00:48:39.820
Joyce Kutner says, go get him, Ezra. Liz Truss said a lot about Mark Carnage. He ruined the British
00:48:45.660
economy and he will do the same to Canada. Yeah, Mark Carney is held up by the media class as being
00:48:51.980
this expert know-it-all. I don't think he is. Certainly that wasn't the experience of the Brits
00:48:56.620
for what he did to them. Parkirk says, Ezra, you are a true Canadian patriot and admire your relentless
00:49:02.780
efforts to save Canada. I will give what I can to this worthy and righteous fight. I think this is our
00:49:07.340
last chance. Well, thanks very much. You know, it's sort of new to me to set up a campaign group
00:49:12.220
like this. I don't know if you know, but about 25 years ago, I ran as a political candidate just for
00:49:18.220
a few weeks before I stepped aside for Stephen Harper. So I did have a political past. I'm talking
00:49:23.580
when I was 29 years old and it was super fun. So it's sort of like old times getting back into it now.
00:49:28.220
Fancy Nancy says, I just made my donation. You guys must put some screenshots from his book
00:49:34.940
on that billboard where he says the West is morally rotten. Hey, that is a great idea. Thank you very
00:49:42.140
much for that. We're just gearing up. We're just giving her. This is really day one. Yesterday was
00:49:47.660
sort of day zero of the campaign. It's day one. Expect to see a lot more of us in the weeks ahead.
00:49:52.860
That's our show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:49:57.740
to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.