Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ 'For Canada' campaign launches against Mark Carney, the slippery globalist

00:00:00.240 Hello, my friends. The election is on. I want to talk to you a little bit about what Rebel News is doing.

00:00:04.640 I made an announcement over the weekend. I'm going to expand on that.

00:00:07.500 Rebel News is going to do journalism, but I am setting up a third-party campaign group,

00:00:12.220 which is separate to Rebel News. It's going to fight against the liberals hard.

00:00:16.360 I'll give you the details, but first let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus.

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00:00:30.660 and the satisfaction of keeping Rebel News strong.

00:00:34.600 All right, here's the podcast.

00:00:36.300 Tonight, we're going to battle in the election as journalists, but also as a third-party campaign group.

00:00:42.660 It's March 24th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:45.500 You party for freedom! 0.58

00:00:48.400 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.97

00:00:56.160 Oh, hi, everybody. Yesterday was a very busy day. The election has been called. 0.60

00:01:04.720 The candidates are off and running, and I announced yesterday that we are going to start a project

00:01:10.860 called a third-party campaign, and by we, I mean me. It's separate from Rebel News,

00:01:15.720 and that's an important point. Here, let me play for you a four-minute video where I explain it.

00:01:20.380 I recorded this yesterday from home. Take a look.

00:01:22.260 Oh, hi, everybody. The election is just being called on April 28th.

00:01:26.820 We have five weeks to expose Mark Carney, to vet him, to show Canadians who he really is,

00:01:33.400 a Canadian in name only who hasn't lived here in a decade,

00:01:36.360 a globalist who carries three passports and calls himself European, not Canadian,

00:01:42.460 an insider who rigged the liberal leadership vote to disqualify his opponents

00:01:47.080 and block 250,000 voters, an oligarch who pledged his loyalty to the World Economic Forum

00:01:54.320 and the United Nations, and finally, a slippery banker who just weeks ago voted to move his own

00:02:01.120 company from Canada to New York. So we've got our work cut out for us as journalists,

00:02:06.640 but I am doing something different this time. I have set up what Elections Canada calls a

00:02:11.680 third-party campaign to fight against Mark Carney directly. By registering my third-party group

00:02:19.400 with Elections Canada, I can raise and spend up to $600,000 in this election. That's enough to do

00:02:27.020 everything from renting billboard trucks to sending out brochures targeting different politicians to

00:02:32.880 running national TV ads if we want. And the amazing thing about a third-party campaign,

00:02:38.100 I've discovered, is that unlike political parties, there is no limit on how much people can donate

00:02:43.980 to it. Canadians can donate a maximum of $1,750 to each registered political party, and the same

00:02:53.080 towards each party's candidates. But those limits do not apply to third-party groups. So you can donate

00:03:00.640 any amount. That's on top of whatever you might give to a political party. So there's going to be a lot

00:03:04.920 of ads out there, including from the conservative party, and I have no interest in simply repeating

00:03:10.020 their messages. I plan to use my third-party group to go further and harder than anything the

00:03:17.080 conservatives would do, including talking about things the conservatives themselves might be squeamish

00:03:22.620 about. For example, Mark Carney's close family ties with Ghislaine Maxwell. That's Jeffrey Epstein's

00:03:30.860 sex trafficker. The CBC would never talk about that, and I'm not sure if even the conservatives would

00:03:36.880 either, but we already are. Our billboard truck is literally in Ottawa today with that message. If you're

00:03:44.500 excited about this third-party campaign idea, go to a website I've set up at forcanada.ca. That's

00:03:51.040 f-o-r-canada.ca. Now, I originally didn't plan to do this. The idea came to me from the police

00:03:59.720 who were interrogating me for publishing my book, The Libranos, in the 2019 election. They said all I

00:04:07.200 had to do was register my book with the government, and I'd be fine. And I thought that was an outrageous

00:04:12.800 infringement of my freedom of speech, and I fought it in court for five years. I mean,

00:04:17.900 that's banana republic stuff, but then it dawned on me. Registering in the election lets me campaign

00:04:23.460 as if I were a political party, including raising and spending money. And in some ways, that gives

00:04:28.940 me even more power than a political party because there are no limits on individual donors. So I'm

00:04:33.740 doing it. I'm setting up a campaign group. We've got five weeks to stop Mark Carney. Rebel News will do

00:04:39.600 important work journalistically, but this third-party group I've set up will do other work that Rebel News

00:04:46.280 can't. I have made the first donation. Will you join me? Go to forcanada.ca, F-O-R Canada. I've set this

00:04:56.060 third-party group up in my personal capacity to keep the funds separate from Rebel News. Rebel will do

00:05:01.480 journalism. For Canada will do the political heavy lifting. And the amazing thing is donations to the

00:05:08.180 third-party group like For Canada are unlimited. The only limit is on our spending. But that limit is so

00:05:15.900 high, $600,000. It really is amazing. Anyways, go to forcanada.ca and let's go and fight this

00:05:22.300 campaign. Now, I've had a few letters today saying, don't run as a third-party candidate. That will

00:05:28.700 split the vote. Don't worry, I'm not running as a candidate. And let me explain a little bit more

00:05:33.720 what third-party means. In the United States, sometimes people say, oh, there's a third-party

00:05:37.540 candidate who's going to run. Remember, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was considering running as a third-party

00:05:42.060 candidate. Historically, Ross Perot ran as a third-party candidate. I absolutely understand

00:05:47.500 that. In the context of a candidate, a third-party candidate typically is a vote splitter, a principled

00:05:53.740 person quite often, but someone who splits the vote, someone who really has no chance. I'm not

00:05:58.220 doing that. But in Canada, we call our super PACs third-party campaign groups. You probably heard the

00:06:04.760 word super PAC again from the United States. That's basically a group that is unaffiliated

00:06:09.280 with candidates. It's allowed to campaign. They're not running candidates. They're fighting on issues

00:06:14.840 or they're promoting or attacking a candidate or another, but they are not fielding candidates

00:06:19.180 themselves. That's what we're doing. In Canada, it's called a third-party campaign group. And we

00:06:25.320 studied the rules very carefully. The only reason we're considering this, as I mentioned in the video,

00:06:29.800 is because of the terrible experience I went through about five years ago when I published the book,

00:06:34.340 The Libranos, which was a legitimate journalistic act of publishing and political commentary. As you

00:06:41.140 know, there were 24 books published about Justin Trudeau in the 2019 election. Mine was the only one

00:06:46.700 prosecuted, the only one sentenced and fined for obvious reasons. Mine was a conservative critique of

00:06:53.720 Trudeau. But when I was interrogated by the two 30-year veterans of the RCMP, they made it clear that

00:07:01.040 all I had to do was submit to the government and register with the government as an author.

00:07:05.960 And you might recall that clip here. Take a look at the guy saying that. Here's this guy saying,

00:07:09.640 why didn't you register with the government? Take a look.

00:07:11.800 Today we're here about Rebel News Network Limited.

00:07:15.400 Oh, I know that. And I'm just asking you to confirm that not a single other loving book of Trudeau

00:07:24.240 is being investigated. But once we're done, if you believe that there should be complaints that are...

00:07:27.920 No, because I'm not a censor like you. I'm not a bully and a censor. I'm not a bureaucrat

00:07:33.340 looking to justify my budget like you. I go out and earn my living every day, fella.

00:07:41.240 You call in authors to grill them about a book criticizing your boss. Think about who you are.

00:07:47.480 We call the director of Rebel News Network Limited.

00:07:51.120 Yeah, who happens to be the author of the book. I think there's going to be a chapter

00:07:55.140 about you two fellas in the next edition.

00:08:02.220 Well, why didn't I register with the government? The same reason I don't register my typewriter

00:08:06.120 with the government. I don't live in communist Romania. And I'm not picking that country by

00:08:10.720 random. Romania actually had a law that if you had a typewriter in the Cold War, you had to register

00:08:16.820 it with the government. And they took a typing sample. You know, those old timey typewriters

00:08:22.700 where you went ka-chunk, ka-chunk, ka-chunk, and the keys went like that. I don't know if you're old

00:08:26.220 enough to remember what an old timey typewriter was like. But every typewriter, some of the keys

00:08:30.720 were just slightly twisted or tilted or out of sync. And so the way that the keys actually struck

00:08:36.960 the paper were like a fingerprint. No two typewriters were identical. So if you had a typewriter in

00:08:42.800 Romania, you had to take it at the police station, they would take a sample, and you were sort of

00:08:47.300 licensed for that typewriter. But if they ever found samizdat, that's the Soviet word for, you

00:08:54.220 know, agitprop, anything that was a subversive publication, they would compare it to the typewriters

00:09:02.100 they had on file. It's a long way of describing what it's like for an author to have to register

00:09:07.840 for the government. So naturally, I was appalled. But my appall did not do anything to win the court

00:09:13.120 battle. I actually lost all the way up to the Federal Court of Appeal. I was very disappointed

00:09:16.800 in the court. And I know that that's a violation on my freedoms, but I lost the trial. I lost the

00:09:23.240 hearing. So here we are in the doorstep of the 2025 campaign, and I'm going to do stuff that is just as

00:09:30.240 partisan as a book or more. You know, our lovable truck, right? We got that gorgeous, beautiful

00:09:36.380 billboard truck. That thing is going to be running at least eight hours a day, every day. I mean,

00:09:43.340 we're just going full tilt with the truck. And of course, we're going to hammer the liberals. What

00:09:48.100 do you think we're going to do? And I know in my bones, if we don't set up a registered third-party

00:09:54.820 campaign group and do what that cop said, I know I'm going to be in front of a prosecution one more

00:09:59.460 time. And the trouble is, second offense, second conviction, they're going to wallop me. They're

00:10:04.660 going to give me a $100,000 fine. And that's just not the way we're going to use our donors' money.

00:10:10.160 Here, we're going to use it to fight the bad guys. So I absolutely object to becoming a registered

00:10:17.440 campaign group. I think it's a violation of my civil liberties, but I have to do it while that is the

00:10:24.620 law. So I am doing that. And I'm doing it in my personal capacity because I don't want to

00:10:28.980 co-mingle Rebel News stuff. Rebel News is going to continue doing journalism. I'm not going to continue

00:10:33.700 to be the boss of Rebel News. Obviously, I'm going to be a journalist with Rebel News every single

00:10:38.440 day. But I have set up this group called ForCanada.ca, its own bank account. I put in the

00:10:45.620 first donation. And what I love about it, here's sort of the trick, as I mentioned in that video I

00:10:51.620 recorded, is that Canadians can give an unlimited amount of dough. So if you're wealthy enough to

00:10:57.160 be able to give $1,750 to the Conservative Party or the People's Party or whatever you're doing,

00:11:03.700 that's as much as you're allowed to give under law. But there is actually no limit to what you can give

00:11:09.120 to a super PAC, or as they call it in Canada, third-party campaign group. So I think that's

00:11:13.900 awesome. So I didn't want to go down this road. I object. I'm doing it under protest. But if the

00:11:20.760 government insists I set up a third-party campaign group, all right, let's get ready to rumble.

00:11:26.000 I'm sort of excited about it. So I've told you the structure of it. It's just a third party. The

00:11:30.520 purpose of it is to not get arrested. I can also tell you what it's not, is it is not a campaign

00:11:39.420 with party candidates. So I want to let you know, I am not going to split the vote by running against

00:11:48.460 anybody. So there were some people who worried about that. So what will we do? Well, first of all,

00:11:54.120 we're not allowed to collude with other groups, which is fine. I have no interest in doing that.

00:11:59.860 I have my own issues that I want to focus on like a laser. And here's what I want to emphasize. And

00:12:05.760 I touched on that in my video from yesterday. I'm not interested in making the same arguments

00:12:11.520 that Pierre Polyev and the conservatives are. First of all, they're good at it. Second of all,

00:12:16.880 they have a huge budget. I think it's around 25 million bucks or maybe even more. So they don't

00:12:22.640 need me talking about, for example, how the per capita GDP in Canada has gone down. They don't

00:12:28.880 need me to talk about how housing prices have gone up, how inflation has made even food expensive.

00:12:36.940 I don't think they need that. They're going to talk about that.

00:12:40.460 What are they not going to talk about? Things that they are worried about, you know, being accused

00:12:47.660 of being too right-wing, things that are maybe a little bit politically incorrect. But that's sort

00:12:53.700 of where Rebel News lives and thrives. Let me give you an example. Immigration. 0.98

00:12:59.820 Mark Carney just hired the head of something called the Century Initiative. Have you heard of that?

00:13:04.740 It's insane. It's wacko stuff. It is extremist fringe stuff. The Century Initiative, as the name implies, 0.94

00:13:14.200 would bring 100 million people to Canada. So it would bring in so many migrants that our population

00:13:19.940 would be 100 million. That's psycho. And the leader of the Century Initiative was just hired as a senior

00:13:29.120 staffer by Mark Carney. By the way, if you brought in 60 million new Canadians, you're not bringing them

00:13:38.160 in from the United States or from Denmark or from other first world liberal democracies. You can't

00:13:44.720 find 60 million people who would come to Canada. Economically, that would likely be a step down for

00:13:50.320 most of them, given how we're doing. You're going to find those people in Pakistan and Bangladesh and

00:13:56.560 Syria and Africa and people that do not have economic or cultural fit with Canada. That's the Trudeau 0.55

00:14:04.160 approach to immigration, bringing people from Gaza. You could bring 2 million people in from Gaza like

00:14:09.860 that. It's not going to help the Gazans and it's going to be a detonation, both physically and morally, 0.51

00:14:15.560 in Canada. That's how you get 100 million immigrants into this country. Now, you can't talk about that

00:14:21.540 in polite company because you'll be called racist or whatever. It's not racist to want limited

00:14:26.380 immigration that's a fit both quantitatively and qualitatively. That is not racist at all,

00:14:31.940 which is, but it's so scary that the Conservative Party probably won't talk about it. I don't know how

00:14:37.340 strong the Conservatives will be talking about the Hamas protests on our city streets. I think they're 0.99

00:14:43.200 fairly brave on that stuff, but I just don't know. How about transgender extremism? Not only has Mark 1.00

00:14:49.680 Carney said that he's all in for woke, but we learned from an expose in our friends at Juno.com

00:14:55.220 that Mark Carney's daughter is a trans activist who actually went to a radical clinic in the UK

00:15:03.120 called the Tavistock Clinic. Now, some people said, oh, you can't talk about that. Why are you picking

00:15:08.880 on his daughter? Well, first of all, she's a grown adult. Second of all, she's an activist who talks

00:15:14.060 about her politics and in fact is a public campaigner. The reason it's relevant is not

00:15:19.400 because Mark Carney's daughter says those things, but because it's relevant to Mark Carney himself.

00:15:24.440 What does he believe? And the fact that he would go along with sending his daughter to such a

00:15:29.040 terrible and controversial place as a Tavistock Center, I think demands some questions.

00:15:34.720 Also questions about Mark Carney's loyalty and his citizenship. Just how many days in 2024 did he

00:15:43.280 even live in Canada? Was he here for even 30 days? Why does he have an Irish citizenship? I understand

00:15:49.600 the British one because he went to work for the Bank of England, but the only reason I can think of

00:15:53.660 for him to get an Irish citizenship is it's some sort of tax dodge. I'd like to hear him answer that 0.99

00:15:58.460 question, and I'd like to have the question put. And I'm not sure if the conservatives would go there.

00:16:03.740 I'd like to ask more about his World Economic Forum exploits. I don't think the conservatives are

00:16:09.040 going to talk that much about it because they'll be called conspiracy theorists by the CBC. I don't

00:16:13.360 care what the CBC calls me. Every single year I go to the World Economic Forum and I see with my own

00:16:17.540 eyes the truth of it. It's no conspiracy. In fact, the last time I saw Mark Carney was at the World

00:16:23.500 Economic Forum and I asked him who he works for and he told me the UN. Here's a clip of that.

00:16:28.540 Sorry, I don't... When you meet with the PM on climate, are you there on your own behalf or are

00:16:33.840 you there on behalf of a company law? I am the UN special envoy on climate action and finance.

00:16:40.880 And what do you make? It's a bitter cold in Canada down to minus 40s. Yeah, back home in Alberta. It was

00:16:45.840 minus 40. And Gilboa was saying go to electric cars. That doesn't work.

00:16:50.340 Back in for a week. Well, you've got to have... Watch out. You've got to have the full... You've

00:16:55.100 got to have full capacity, right? And you've got to have... You know, one of the things we're

00:17:00.720 going to need to do in Canada, across Canada, and this is, you know, for the benefit of jobs

00:17:07.100 in the country is build out the grid. You can't switch before you build it out, number one.

00:17:12.580 Number two, one of the things you need, regardless of the form of energy you have, we have, is

00:17:21.260 also to have what's called a capacity market alongside the electricity market.

00:17:26.960 So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty since we haven't done those foundational

00:17:30.820 things? Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario,

00:17:36.580 Canada, Australia, for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build. You have

00:17:42.360 to build. And it's a time to build. And look, we're in a position where we in Canada are in

00:17:50.340 a position where we have been an energy superpower. We can continue to be an energy superpower.

00:17:57.680 We've always had the ability to develop new sources of energy.

00:18:04.460 But the PM said there was no market for natural gas. How do you feel about natural gas, especially

00:18:08.780 to relieve Ukraine and other Europeans from Russian gas? How come they're buying Russian

00:18:14.220 gas and Qatari gas, but Justin Trudeau won't let them buy Canadian gas?

00:18:18.220 Well, we would have to get to build the trains in order to do what are called LNG trains in order

00:18:24.700 to get the gas to them. Well, this is a long interview, isn't it?

00:18:28.220 What exactly did you do with the UN? And how is it that while you're working for the UN and the Bank

00:18:34.060 of England, you're running these for-profit ventures on the side? How is it that he becomes

00:18:39.980 a hundred millionaire? Or is he a billionaire? He won't tell us. How do you make so much money

00:18:45.180 while being a public servant? I just don't think it squares. And finally, the campaign we're already

00:18:50.220 running about Ghislaine Maxwell. If you remember Ghislaine Maxwell, that was Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand

00:18:55.900 woman, the sex trafficker. She's in prison right now. She was hanging out with Mark Carney and

00:19:01.660 Carney's wife. They were friends. Mark Carney also hung out with Prince Andrew. And I'm a monarchist,

00:19:06.780 but holy mackerel. The reason Prince Andrew was never seen in public anymore is because the queen,

00:19:11.900 before she passed away, basically banished him because of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:19:18.460 Well, Mark Carney has a friendship with Epstein or Maxwell. He won't answer questions about it,

00:19:23.900 but those are questions that ought to be asked. My point is, there are many things that our group,

00:19:28.940 for Canada, that's what I'm calling our third party group, can talk about. Whether it's immigration

00:19:33.500 and the sensory initiative, whether it's Hamas or trans-extremism, or questioning how a man who

00:19:40.620 is disloyal to us, has lived away from us, who's got alternative citizenships, how he can suddenly

00:19:45.660 come back and seek to rule us. I want to know more about his World Economic Forum role and his United

00:19:51.180 Nation role and his role with Epstein. And those are the kind of things that Rebel News is going to do.

00:19:56.060 Rebel News is going to do it journalistically. And it's going to happen over here. But over here,

00:20:01.100 our third party campaign group is going to weaponize that stuff in a political sense. 0.98

00:20:06.780 We're going to deploy brochures. We're going to deploy ads. We're going to run the billboard truck.

00:20:12.780 In fact, I've spoken today with several other independent media companies and I've asked them to send over

00:20:18.860 ad proposals. In other words, For Canada isn't just going to use content generated by Rebel News,

00:20:26.860 but also work with, I don't want to give it away yet, but you'll see where we're going to pop up.

00:20:32.060 So we're having a distinction between the two. Rebel News is going to continue doing great

00:20:37.020 journalism, but the third party campaign group is going to battle the bad guys in politics. And the 0.79

00:20:43.020 reason we're setting that up is because the government told me to. Now, those aren't words

00:20:47.980 I normally say, but you know what? Bring it on. And I'm looking forward to it. And maybe if there is

00:20:52.940 a result at the end of this election where Pierre Polyev wins, and I hope he does, maybe we'll have

00:20:57.660 more freedom of speech and freedom of politics in Canada where I don't have to register my typewriter

00:21:02.700 with the government, so to speak. But in the meantime, fine, I'll follow the rules,

00:21:06.620 and we'll use those rules to win. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:21:18.940 Well, big news yesterday. The election was finally called. Mark Carney going to the governor general

00:21:25.340 and requesting that the writ be dropped, as they say. Both parties, both main parties raring to go.

00:21:32.460 It's remarkable to me to see the decline of the NDP. I think people who told pollsters for the last

00:21:40.220 several years that they were voting NDP, I think it was just sort of almost a public statement of

00:21:48.140 how noble they were. It was a kind of virtue signaling. But in the end, when it comes down to

00:21:53.980 the two real choices for prime minister, do you want Pierre Polyev or do you want Mark Carney,

00:21:58.540 I think a lot of that NDP vote is going to migrate over to the liberals like it did in 2015 to put

00:22:03.980 Justin Trudeau over the top? That, I think, is at least half of the reason that the gap is narrowing.

00:22:11.260 Pierre Polyev having a 20-point lead just a couple of months ago now, it's basically all tied up.

00:22:17.020 Part of that is, I think, Mark Carney changes it up. Anyone is better than Justin Trudeau, but I think part of

00:22:24.300 it is the amazing vanishing Jagmeet Singh. But how is the election going to go? And will Alberta have

00:22:35.420 anything to do with it, really? Or is Alberta essentially written off by both parties as a 1.00

00:22:40.780 place where votes can't be moved? How will Donald Trump's threats of tariffs play out? And basically,

00:22:46.620 let's just chat about everything. Joining us now to talk about these things is my friend Lauren

00:22:50.700 Gunter, senior columnist at the Edmonton Sun. Lauren, in a way, parties typically don't waste

00:22:58.460 time in the campaign talking to people they have a lock on and talking to people they have no chance

00:23:05.580 on. It's always those battleground ridings in the US. They call them the battleground states.

00:23:11.580 Wouldn't make a lot of sense for Pierre Polyev to spend too much time in Calgary,

00:23:15.500 for example, or for Mark Carney to spend too much time in Montreal. What are the battleground

00:23:21.660 regions in the country and what are the battleground issues?

00:23:26.860 Well, let's start with the regions first. The battleground regions, to me,

00:23:32.540 are the ones that they've always been over the last decade and a half. It's Quebec, Ontario,

00:23:39.660 and the lower mainland of BC. Because you can almost form a government if you take Montreal,

00:23:46.540 Ottawa, the greater Toronto area, and Vancouver proper. Typically, the Conservative Party, whether

00:23:54.620 it's the Canadian Alliance or the Reform Party, or now the Conservative Party of Canada, takes the

00:24:01.340 suburbs of Vancouver. But if you get Vancouver proper, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and you count on

00:24:11.980 30 seats from Atlantic Canada, you form a government. And I think that that's where the battle is going

00:24:18.300 to be again this time. It didn't look like that for a while. It looked like the Conservatives had a lock

00:24:23.580 on Ontario. It looked like the BQ had a lock on Quebec. But Justin Trudeau goes. And everything that

00:24:33.340 the Liberals have done for 10 years, which was completely incompetent, gets tagged to Justin Trudeau

00:24:42.940 when he leaves. Now, the whole group around Trudeau is now around Carney. These are the same brains trust

00:24:50.220 that ran the economy into the ground, opened up the doors to unlimited immigration, increased crime in 1.00

00:24:57.500 the country by getting rid of any restrictions on bail, basically, and on and on and on. And yet,

00:25:06.860 this whole election comes down to two people, Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau,

00:25:14.300 because he's gone and the Liberals can then go to everyone and say,

00:25:18.060 we wanted to do the right thing for 10 years. Yeah, we were just aching, aching to do the right

00:25:23.900 thing. But but Justin Trudeau kept us from doing it. So now that he's gone, we will do all those

00:25:28.700 right things. Yeah. And and a lot of Ontario, and it seems like Montreal area, Quebec voters going,

00:25:36.300 okay, that sounds good to us. You know, so it just perplexes me. I am a fan of in NFL football,

00:25:47.740 I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. And for 20 years, they have not lived up to their promise.

00:25:55.340 And I go every week and I hope in front of my TV, and I hope that they're going to get better.

00:26:00.140 And now I'm starting to feel exactly the same way about the Conservative Party of Canada. I,

00:26:05.260 everything conspires against them. In this case, Donald Trump has come out with his,

00:26:11.980 his preposterous, totally, utterly preposterous tariff threats. And and his insults at Canada,

00:26:21.660 like, I cannot believe this. Oh, it's a very nasty country. They're very nasty. They're hard to deal 0.99

00:26:26.940 with. Yeah, well, wouldn't that be a good thing? If if in trade negotiations, we were tough to deal

00:26:33.100 with, but I'm not sure we are. You know, the last time we had a we had trade talks with the Trump

00:26:39.180 administration, we tried to throw in indigenous issues and gender equity as two things in a trade

00:26:47.340 deal. Now, that doesn't make us nasty. I think it makes us naive. But but I think you've come down to

00:26:54.940 Justin Trudeau is gone. And much of the country is really worried that Donald Trump means it when

00:27:02.060 he says he's going to annex Canada. And so they're now deciding who would be best to stop him from

00:27:08.220 doing that, Pierre Paulyev or Mark Carney. So it's a false issue. But that's at this point,

00:27:14.140 what is driving the agenda in the election, it could change over the next five weeks.

00:27:19.100 But right now, as of day one, we're day two. It's the annexation and the absence of Justin Trudeau.

00:27:27.420 And I am saddened for the prospects of the Conservative Party.

00:27:33.100 I tell you, just a couple of months ago, it looked like a super majority. I mean,

00:27:36.300 it looked like the liberals wouldn't have a seat really west of Ontario, maybe one or two.

00:27:41.820 And it was a pleasure to see Pierre Paulyev talking about fairly strong conservative ideas

00:27:49.420 in Toronto, in places and just getting huge crowds. And and I think that's been taken away. I think

00:27:56.300 you're right. People are afraid. I mean, Donald Trump has that Manhattan brawler style. He gives

00:28:03.180 people nicknames they don't like. He yanks their chain. And most of it's for banter. And but,

00:28:09.740 you know, I think Canadians aren't used to it. I think some Canadians, it revives an ancient

00:28:17.500 anti-Americanism that frankly goes back to the founding of our country. I think our Trump

00:28:23.500 derangement syndrome media magnify it. And to be candid, Donald Trump's remarks have permitted all

00:28:31.100 of those interpretations. And I see that the second lady, Usha Vance, is in Greenland. And so the idea of

00:28:37.980 America increasing its territory does not feel as far fetched as perhaps it should.

00:28:45.260 I think it would be incredible if Trump's tariff potshots

00:28:51.580 saved the Liberal Party that was so rightfully destined to the trash heap. I don't know.

00:28:57.660 I still think the Conservatives are going to win, by the way.

00:28:59.900 I do. I do too. And let me give you just one example. First of all, Carney is still benefiting

00:29:07.900 from his honeymoon. And that's going to wear off. Does it wear off before April 28th or after April

00:29:14.700 28th? I think he really only has about a two week honeymoon. And I think the last three weeks

00:29:19.660 of the campaign are going to be very different from this first week or the first two weeks.

00:29:25.020 Fingers crossed that that's going to happen. But Poliev had a rally in suburban, well,

00:29:33.260 into the north end of Toronto on the first day of the election campaign. And they had so many people

00:29:41.100 show up that they had to turn away hundreds of people. So, you know, the example that I used recently

00:29:50.380 in a column was in Iowa, just before the presidential election in November 24th, there was a poll by the

00:29:58.220 Des Moines Register, which is very well respected.

00:30:00.540 A rogue poll. I remember it.

00:30:02.620 Kamala Harris was ahead by three points in Iowa. She was going to win Iowa. She lost Iowa, I think, by 15 points. 0.92

00:30:09.900 So, you know, you could you can tell me that we're back to the old way where a lot of people say they're

00:30:16.620 voting liberal because socially that's acceptable. But really, they're voting for they're intending

00:30:23.100 to vote for the conservatives. I mean, one of the reasons that Jagmeet Singh has spent the first two

00:30:27.340 days of the campaign hammering at Pierre Poliev and not at Mark Carney is not just because he had he

00:30:34.780 spent the last four years as a sycophant for the Liberal Party. That's part of the reason. But the bigger

00:30:39.980 reason is that Pierre Poliev has stolen blue collar voters away from the NDP. And that's largely who

00:30:49.340 pushed Trump over the top in the United States. So is it possible that pollsters don't catch these

00:30:55.980 people? They don't answer numbers on their phones that they don't know? They're reluctant to do polls

00:31:02.940 or they tell pollsters the things they think pollsters want to hear? Yeah. So is it possible that instead of

00:31:09.420 like a two or three point gap in favor of the conservatives at the moment, we're closer

00:31:15.100 actually to a six to seven or eight point gap? Yes, I think so. But we'll know much better after

00:31:25.340 Mark Carney has had to stand up in public and answer a lot of questions. I know he's not popular with the

00:31:31.580 Parliamentary Press Gallery, which is kind of funny. Right. Because, of course, on one level,

00:31:36.540 they're all so excited that he's there. He says, you remember the initial response from the media in the

00:31:44.940 United States, the legacy media in the United States, when Kamala Harris took over from Joe Biden?

00:31:49.420 Yeah. Oh, really? Oh, thank you. Absolutely. Oh, she's one of the most caustic politicians 1.00

00:31:57.020 I can remember in the last 10 or 15 years. And yet she had this, wow, we're all about joy.

00:32:03.900 We're just the campaign of joy. Yeah. And the American media lapped that up. ABC did the first

00:32:11.900 and only presidential debate. It was so biased. Like you and I have complained lots of times about the

00:32:19.740 Star and the Globe and the CBC and CTV increasingly now, which is just a mouthpiece for the Liberal Party.

00:32:27.660 I had never seen bias like I saw those first six weeks after Kamala Harris replaced Joe Biden.

00:32:34.620 Like never seen that kind of bias. They were so excited that there was somebody who might beat

00:32:40.940 Trump that they didn't care how biased they were. And I think we're seeing some of that now. Like

00:32:48.140 this whole idea that Trump can annex Canada. How? How do you do that? But the CBC says, oh,

00:32:57.180 there's a real threat to Canadian sovereignty here and the Star and the Globe and everything. Oh my

00:33:03.020 goodness. He, he, he's going to try and take us over. Well, until he starts to amass divisions on

00:33:10.300 the southern border, there's nothing they can do about this. There is no legal body in the world he

00:33:18.300 can go to, to apply for annexation of Canada. We would have to have a referendum where we overwhelmingly

00:33:26.140 voted to ask to join the United States. Well, he's, he has ticked off Canadians so much that a referendum

00:33:32.300 right now would be 70, 75%, 80%, maybe more. No. Yeah. So there is no way we're going to get

00:33:40.460 annexed, but they play right into this liberal fear mongering stuff by saying, oh, please don't

00:33:46.460 annex us, Mr. Trump. And it's, it's ridiculous. You know, um, I see in the news that Mark Carney says 0.98

00:33:56.940 he's not rushing to meet with Trump, but I also see that he has requested a conversation with Trump

00:34:03.500 and Trump. And again, this is all just secondhand reports that Trump has declined the meeting until

00:34:09.180 the election is over, which makes some sense, by the way. I mean, that's typically the way it's done.

00:34:15.020 Yeah. I mean, why, first of all, why would you negotiate in the middle of the campaign?

00:34:18.140 Yep. Um, and second of all, you might have a totally different guy. I mean, just,

00:34:23.900 and this is all on the liberals for their whole messing things up. But Danielle Smith, who I think 0.92

00:34:29.740 is being the most productive, uh, diplomatic representative to the States, who is not a Trump

00:34:37.020 hater, who actually went to the inauguration. She's been trying to lower the temperature on both 1.00

00:34:43.900 sides of the border, by the way. And I, I think she's been the opposite of some inflammatory. 0.98

00:34:48.700 I think Doug Florida has been insane by saying he wants to turn off electricity to the Northeast

00:34:55.180 United States, including their hospitals and schools with a smile on his face. And I know

00:34:59.260 that's just bullyish banter, but I don't think it works to match Trump with a mini Trump. I don't

00:35:06.300 know if that works, but here's Danielle Smith a little while back on Breitbart radio, which is a,

00:35:11.020 you know, satellite radio show trying to lower the temperature. And she was pounced on as this was

00:35:18.060 some sort of, uh, you know, disloyalty. It sounds to me like she was just trying to cool the jets. 1.00

00:35:24.300 Hey, let's take a listen to it. There's a couple minutes long. Let me play a couple minutes of it,

00:35:27.740 Lauren. Let's just take a listen. Before the tariff war, I would say, yes. I mean,

00:35:31.500 Pierre, uh, Pierre Paul Yev is the name of the conservative party leader, and he was miles ahead of,

00:35:37.500 of, uh, of Justin Trudeau. But, uh, because of the, uh, of what we see is unjust and unfair

00:35:43.260 tariffs, it's actually caused an increase in the support for the liberals. And so that's what I fear

00:35:49.020 is that the longer this dispute goes on politicians posture, and it seems to be benefiting the liberals

00:35:55.980 right now. Um, so I, I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I've told administration

00:36:00.460 officials. Let's just put things on pause so we can get through an election. Let's have the best person 0.99

00:36:05.900 at the table, make the argument for how they would deal with it. And I think that's Pierre Paul Yev.

00:36:09.740 And I do agree with you that if we, if we do have, uh, Pierre as, uh, um, as our prime minister,

00:36:16.140 then I, I think that there's, uh, there's a number of things that we could do together.

00:36:19.980 It goes on a little bit longer, but you can get the gist of it. And I think,

00:36:23.020 I think she's right in a number of ways. First of all, it's in the country's interest that we lower

00:36:26.460 the temperature and it's in the conservative party's interest. Now this was somehow seized upon

00:36:31.420 as some great act of disloyalty. What do you think about the reaction to the, to do this from,

00:36:36.620 uh, from some Canadian journalists and politicians? I got a phone call last night. Would I be on a radio

00:36:43.660 show, a talk show this morning to talk about Danielle Smith's incendiary remarks, uh, about, uh,

00:36:52.140 uh, uh, Trump and the election? I thought anything about this? I don't know. Like I'd,

00:36:59.100 I'd heard the Breitbart interview two weeks ago when it came out, but what I couldn't understand,

00:37:04.220 and I opened the papers this morning and they are all headlining Smith does Polyev in with

00:37:11.020 controversial remarks to far right radio. Well, first of all, if Breitbart is far right,

00:37:18.620 then you have to, when you're describing ABC, NBC, and to a lesser extent CBS in the United States,

00:37:24.860 you have to say far left. Yeah. Uh, you know, I, I, so first of all, they frame this in such a way

00:37:32.220 that she looks like she's a nut bar for talking to Breitbart. She's not. And you know, I, you,

00:37:38.220 you get the same with a mutual friend of ours frequently, a guy named Ben Shapiro, who is always

00:37:44.700 portrayed as an extremist far right. He's not, he's, he's an old timey conservative.

00:37:50.460 He's the most mainstream conservative pundit in America.

00:37:53.420 Exactly. He's sort of, he's what conservative is.

00:37:56.700 So she says, well, you know, I, I think that Trump with all of these threats and the talk of

00:38:02.780 annexation in 51st states and things is helping the liberal party. So I have told, uh, administration

00:38:09.500 officials and, and these are people that she mostly met at the giant oil trade show in Houston,

00:38:15.580 a couple of weeks back. She said, I've told administration officials, it would be smarter

00:38:19.660 if they would pause until where our election is over and see who wins.

00:38:24.380 Okay. I think I've written that about eight times. Um, so I don't understand why that's a

00:38:30.220 controversy, but all of a sudden, all the same people I mentioned earlier, the CBC, CTV,

00:38:36.140 the globe, the star, they're all saying, Oh, Oh my goodness. Daniel Smith is trying to throw the

00:38:43.100 election for, for Pierre Paul. Yeah. Okay. So Doug Ford goes and has breakfast,

00:38:49.900 very public breakfast at a diner with Mark Carney. Right. He then later says that Mark Carney is

00:38:56.860 very bright. And a third occasion after the prime minister and the first ministers met

00:39:03.900 by teleconference last week, he says, I can sure work with him. He seems like a great guy.

00:39:09.820 That is an endorsement of Mark Carney. Now that does not create any of the rankle

00:39:16.700 that Smith's comments raised. And Smith is just saying what every other conservative columnist,

00:39:25.740 many liberal columnists in the country have said, and that is that Trump has revived the

00:39:32.380 liberals' fortunes. We said that when we began this interview, that Trump's threats

00:39:38.300 have saved the liberals from near certain extermination. But somehow this has become,

00:39:45.180 the first day, I'm sure what has happened is the liberal war room heard this interview two weeks ago,

00:39:51.420 and they said, Oh, this is going to be good for us. Let's sit on this for a little while. And then we'll

00:39:55.820 feed it to all of the people in the mainstream media who we know, and we'll tell them, Oh,

00:40:02.860 can you believe that? Can you believe she would talk to us officials about the Canadian election? And

00:40:10.700 without thinking, because unfortunately, there are too many people in your profession and mine who don't

00:40:16.700 think before they start writing and broadcasting, they said, Oh, they're right. Oh, it's so awful that

00:40:23.660 she's doing this. Yeah. You know, I think a lot of the team Canada stuff is a little hard for me to

00:40:31.980 believe, especially from a leader, Mark Carney with three passports who left Canada. I mean,

00:40:37.020 and even his meeting up with Mike Myers, the comedian who left. And by the way, leave Canada,

00:40:43.580 make it big in America. Find your fortune. I don't begrudge. I mean, half of Saturday Night Live are

00:40:49.900 Canadian comedians. It's the way to do it. And I saw a beautiful clip of Mike Myers saying how much

00:40:56.700 he loved America. He was so honored to become an American citizen. And I don't doubt any of it.

00:41:03.020 I'm sure he felt that way. It's a little bit of chutzpah for these guys who left Canada decades ago

00:41:07.980 to get rich, to come back and call other people disloyal. Mark Carney has a Canadian passport,

00:41:15.660 a British passport because he worked for the Bank of England. Why does he have an Irish passport?

00:41:19.660 The only reason to have an Irish passport is for tax reasons. Unless you're Irish. 1.00

00:41:24.460 He enjoys potatoes and a nice stew. He's there because of the tax. I'm sure. How many,

00:41:29.340 how many days in the last year did he actually live in Canada? I'm not willing to take lectures on

00:41:34.380 patriotism from folks who said the Canadian flag was a hate symbol after the trucker convoy. Hey,

00:41:39.900 let's play a quick clip. Here's Pierre Pauly of reacting to what we saw. I just wouldn't mind

00:41:44.940 showing our listeners this and let me know if you have any thoughts on it. Here, take a look.

00:41:48.300 People are free to make their own comments. I speak for myself and let's talk about my agenda.

00:41:53.100 My agenda is to put Canada first for a change. You know, there's a reason why Donald Trump wants

00:41:58.700 the weak out of touch liberals in power. They've handed him control of our economy.

00:42:04.300 You know, Trudeau and Carney raised taxes on work, investment, and small business,

00:42:13.100 driving a half trillion dollars out of our economy to the US. They blocked pipelines,

00:42:18.220 mines, LNG plants, forcing our energy companies to sell 100%, almost 100% of their,

00:42:25.580 their product to the Americans at discount prices. They have buried us in bureaucracy.

00:42:32.620 And Donald Trump knows that a weak out of touch liberal government, given a fourth mandate,

00:42:40.300 will only make Canada a bigger target for him. What we need, and that's why the choice in this

00:42:46.860 election is whether we're going to allow the liberal, we're going to elect weak out of touch

00:42:54.620 liberals to a fourth mandate, or whether it is time to put Canada first for a change with a new

00:43:03.420 conservative government that will axe taxes, build homes, unleash our resources, bring home our jobs,

00:43:13.660 so that we can confront Donald Trump and the Americans from a position of strength.

00:43:19.820 Listen, I think the whole thing was a hullabaloo, as you say. I think Danielle Smith, who's very

00:43:25.580 popular at home, is useful to bash around in that Ottawa-Toronto-Montreal triangle. I saw

00:43:32.220 Danielle Smith just had some, the largest ever fundraising dinners in her province. And you might

00:43:37.900 say that's not reflective of the ordinary person, but I think certainly reflective of her own party,

00:43:41.740 which recently gave her 91% support. I think she's doing a good job defending Alberta's interests

00:43:48.700 against Ottawa, which says they want to shut in the oil, and against America, which says it wants

00:43:53.980 to tariff it. I think she's got a pretty tough job. And I mean, obviously, I'm a fan, but I think she's

00:44:00.220 doing a pretty good job of it. Yeah, I do too. I really do. And it is significant that in Edmonton,

00:44:07.420 Edmonton, Danielle Smith drew 1,500 people to the leaders dinner. This is Redmonton. This is a city

00:44:15.980 that has no elected UCP MLA, none. And she still attracted 1,500 people to her dinner. So that is

00:44:26.140 significant. But two things occurred to me when I watched that Polyev clip there. One is he's got to

00:44:32.780 get smoother. Like he didn't look happy. He didn't look like he was excited to be delivering

00:44:40.300 the message he had. And it was like he was stumbling. Oh, yeah, I memorized this. Now,

00:44:43.820 what comes after this? There is some hesitancy in there that doesn't work really well, because

00:44:50.140 Carney's not going to have that hesitancy on the two or three things that the liberals are going to focus

00:44:56.860 on. But the other thing that occurs to me is that we have been almost three months, certainly since

00:45:04.860 Christmas time, I think, without hearing from Polyev much. There really wasn't much he could do because 0.68

00:45:11.500 the liberals shut down parliament. And when you are the leader of the opposition and you don't have

00:45:15.820 daily question period to go after the government there, you can hold rallies. But if the newspapers and

00:45:22.460 radio and TV stations don't send their reporters, there's really not much you can do about that.

00:45:28.380 So we haven't heard from him much for three months. And I think as people start to hear from him

00:45:34.460 again, and they start to hear the message that remember, these are the liberals who raised crime,

00:45:39.740 they doubled the cost of housing, they raised your grocery prices by at least a third and probably

00:45:45.980 closer to a half. And if you let them back into power, they're going to do exactly the same thing.

00:45:51.580 Yes, you might be able to give them a mandate to deal with Trump, but they would take a fourth

00:45:57.500 mandate as proof positive that Canadians want them to have more open immigration. They want

00:46:03.020 us to have higher taxes. They want us to have more environmental regulations. Let's keep the EV

00:46:10.380 mandate that by 2035, all new vehicles in Canada have to be electric. I mean, all of that stuff that was

00:46:17.500 controversial, will still come flooding, but the liberals will take another mandate as proof that

00:46:23.900 that's what Canadians want them to do. It's not, but that's what they will see. And so I think

00:46:29.420 Paulieff has to hammer away, and I think he's prepared to do this. I'm not telling him something

00:46:35.580 he isn't already working on, but they have to hammer away at this is the same crew that's run things for

00:46:42.940 the last 10 years. And you are worse off than you were 10 years ago. Canada is the only G7 country

00:46:50.620 where per capita GDP did not increase in the last decade. The only G7 country where that happened.

00:46:58.460 Italy, Italy's per capita GDP went up 13% in the last decade. And Italy is what used to be called

00:47:05.980 the poor man of Europe. The United States per capita GDP has gone up by almost 22% in the last decade.

00:47:14.140 So our American cousins, whether it was under Biden or under Trump, and to a little extent under Obama,

00:47:21.820 they've come ahead in the last decade. Canadians have not. And that is strictly because of liberal

00:47:26.940 policies. And I think the conservatives have to hammer at that again and again and again.

00:47:32.220 Because if you just say, well, this is a referendum on who'd be better to deal with Trump.

00:47:38.300 Unfortunately, there's an awful lot of Ontario and Quebec voters and perhaps Atlantic Canadian voters

00:47:43.660 who will say, yeah, well, that'd be that Mark Carney guy. Never seen him in action, but we're told by

00:47:49.660 all the right media people that he's so great. Yeah, it really is amazing. I tell you, I certainly don't

00:47:55.340 think anyone would have dreamed of this three months ago. No, but here we are. This is great

00:47:58.940 to catch up with you. Thanks very much for taking the time. I'm optimistic and

00:48:04.700 guardedly optimistic. Yeah, I have to be. Otherwise, it would be tough to

00:48:09.980 The Pope got out of hospital after five weeks in there for pneumonia. Maybe the conservatives

00:48:14.860 can pull us out of that. From your mouth to God's ears. Lauren Guthrie, great to see you again. 0.63

00:48:19.420 Yeah, you bet. All right. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:48:34.140 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on Mark Carney and launching our For Canada campaign.

00:48:39.820 Joyce Kutner says, go get him, Ezra. Liz Truss said a lot about Mark Carnage. He ruined the British

00:48:45.660 economy and he will do the same to Canada. Yeah, Mark Carney is held up by the media class as being

00:48:51.980 this expert know-it-all. I don't think he is. Certainly that wasn't the experience of the Brits

00:48:56.620 for what he did to them. Parkirk says, Ezra, you are a true Canadian patriot and admire your relentless

00:49:02.780 efforts to save Canada. I will give what I can to this worthy and righteous fight. I think this is our

00:49:07.340 last chance. Well, thanks very much. You know, it's sort of new to me to set up a campaign group

00:49:12.220 like this. I don't know if you know, but about 25 years ago, I ran as a political candidate just for

00:49:18.220 a few weeks before I stepped aside for Stephen Harper. So I did have a political past. I'm talking

00:49:23.580 when I was 29 years old and it was super fun. So it's sort of like old times getting back into it now.

00:49:28.220 Fancy Nancy says, I just made my donation. You guys must put some screenshots from his book

00:49:34.940 on that billboard where he says the West is morally rotten. Hey, that is a great idea. Thank you very

00:49:42.140 much for that. We're just gearing up. We're just giving her. This is really day one. Yesterday was

00:49:47.660 sort of day zero of the campaign. It's day one. Expect to see a lot more of us in the weeks ahead.

00:49:52.860 That's our show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:49:57.740 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 24, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ 'For Canada' campaign launches against Mark Carney, the slippery globalist

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