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Ezra LeVant catches up with BlackRock CEO Larry Fink on the streets of Davos, Switzerland, to ask questions about the anti-populist agenda of the World Economic Forum, and how it intersects with the real world.
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Hello, my friends. I'm in Davos, Switzerland, and I'm just amazed at what I've seen, including
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my on-the-street walking scrum with Larry Fink. He's the CEO of BlackRock, and we scrummed him
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for nine minutes, and he was not happy about that. But I want you to see it, not just hear it. To see
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the show. And I'll tell you, this is a crazy place. I want you to see it. It's rebelnewsplus.com.
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the CEO of BlackRock on the streets of Davos. It's January 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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I was in Washington, D.C. on Inauguration Day. It was thrilling for those who believe in freedom
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and populism and nationalism and smaller government. And then I got on a plane on Tuesday and I arrived
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here in Zurich first, and then I took three trains to come up to Davos to the opposite place in the
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world, not geographically, but ideologically. It's a World Economic Forum. And they believe in all the
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opposite things to America first Trumpism. They believe in globalism, not nationalism. They believe
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in socialism, or probably more accurately, corporate socialism, a kind of fascism, as opposed to the free
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market. They believe in ideological environmentalism. They believe in degrowth at the same time as they
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believe in making money. It's a strange kind of capitalism. And most certainly, they believe in
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censorship, whereas Donald Trump is taking steps to improve freedom of speech. What a contrast going from
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Trump's Washington to Klaus Schwab's Davos. There's some energy that has gone out of Davos. I think people here have
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had two months since Donald Trump's win in November to sort of grieve over the changes that are coming to the world.
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Joe Biden wasn't really active mentally. He didn't really shape the government. But whatever cabal was orchestrating the U.S.
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government in his, when he was mentally not up to the task, they were definitely the things that Klaus Schaub would
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admire and find common cause with. When I started coming to Davos a few years ago, green schemes, environmentalism,
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carbon taxes, sustainability, those were the buzzwords. Last year, there was a lot on stopping Trump and Elon Musk.
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That wasn't, you know, perhaps what was in the signs, but that was on everybody's minds and lips.
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Now they're focusing on AI. And a lot of the green schemes have sort of fallen out of favor here,
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at least officially. But it's the same globalist cabal running the joint. We had an interesting
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visit on the street. You know that we apply for accreditation. Of course, they always turn us down
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because we ask prickly questions. So we wait outside the secure perimeter when the VVIP is
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come out onto the street. And we try and recognize people and ask some questions.
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And we were about to go. It was the end of the day. It was quite cold here.
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And out of the corner of our eye, we spotted Larry Fink. Who's that? Well, you probably know him better
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as the CEO of BlackRock. BlackRock has $11 trillion under management. One of the largest investment
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firms in the world. Now that's laudable, I suppose. Good for them. A successful company,
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except they use that power to inject DEI right into the veins of the companies it invest in.
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So for example, last I checked, BlackRock owns about $80 billion worth of shares of Google YouTube.
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Okay, no problem. But part of BlackRock's terms for massive investments is the companies they invest
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in take the woke policies of DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion. In the corporate sense,
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they use a different acronym, ESG, environmental, social, and governance. But BlackRock, it's enormous,
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$11 trillion. It's got a stake of just about anything on the stock market. And Larry Fink,
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the big boss of BlackRock, uses that political power not to chase more return on investment
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for shareholders, but rather to shape the corporate world to turn it all woke. And we caught up with
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Larry Fink on the streets, and he did not like our questions one bit. Here, take a look at this.
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Mr. Fink, are you going to follow Donald Trump's plan and get rid of DEI and ESG in your companies?
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BlackRock really is the opposite of Donald Trump in so many ways. You're authoritarian,
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you're anti-populist, you're top-down. Are you going to change it all in light of the U.S. presidency?
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How has Donald Trump, have you talked to Donald Trump since he was elected?
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Is the World Economic Forum a counterpoint to Donald Trump?
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Why are you running away from simple questions? Just answer a question. Have you talked to President
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Trump yet? Why are your bodyguards pushing away journalists, Mr. Fink?
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They're simple questions. Is it that hard to answer a question that you need bodyguards
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and to swerve through traffic? Is the next four years going to be bad for business with Donald
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Trump in charge? Is peace the last thing you want on this world?
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Which makes more money for you, war in Ukraine or peace in Ukraine?
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Ezra Levant's my name, Mr. Fink. Did you just take a photo of you?
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Am I supposed to be scared? Is that a threat? Is that a threat, Mr. Fink?
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Are you used to bullying your way through life?
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Is that how you've lived your entire life without having...
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When was the last time you answered a question that you didn't know was coming?
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Isn't that what you love about the World Economic Forum?
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Which of your former directors do you want to run Canada?
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No, you're definitely not speaking about thugs.
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They fund wars around the world and then you question them.
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They try not only to intimidate you, but physically assault you.
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What's with taking photos of journalists who ask you prickly questions?
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Why do you think you're so disliked around the world?
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Why are you putting your ideology ahead of your investors with ESG, Mr. Fink?
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Isn't that being disloyal to shareholders, putting your ideology ahead of rate of return?
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Today, Avi and I had a bit of a morning after chit-chat about what we had just experienced and observed.
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And by the way, we did this in front of the Black Rock Pavilion.
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Avi, it hasn't yet been a full day since you and I had a walk and talk with Larry Fink, the big boss of Black Rock.
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But already our video has been seen about five million times on Twitter alone.
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It's incredible because I think a lot of people are waking up to who and what Black Rock really is.
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And I guess it's everything that's represented at the web.
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It's people on the left and the right have in common distaste for Black Rock.
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And I think it reminded me a little bit of when you and I had a walk and talk with Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer.
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Mr. Bourla, can I ask you, when did you know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission?
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How long did you know that without saying it publicly?
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I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission.
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But we now know that the vaccines do not stop transmission.
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I won't have a nice day until I know the answer.
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Why did you keep it a secret that your vaccine did not stop transmission?
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To give refunds back to the countries that poured all their money into your vaccine that
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Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple of years?
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You've made millions on the backs of people's entire livelihoods.
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How does that feel, to walk the streets as a millionaire on the backs of the regular
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person at home in Australia, in England, in Canada?
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What do you have to say about young men dropping dead of heart attacks every day?
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I think one of the reasons that video did so well is that everyone knew Albert Bourla,
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and they knew he was getting up to no good, but he had never submitted himself to unscripted,
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Everyone has sort of heard of him or BlackRock, and they know he's up to no good,
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but he never puts himself in a position to answer questions he basically didn't approve
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I think that's why our video yesterday did so well.
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Yeah, like I said, there's a lot of people concerned for our welfare, so we thought if
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we may as well double down, we're this far in deep, so we'll come out here and we'll
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follow up, because there is some interesting things we didn't get to ask him.
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In that time, probably because, you know, there's a lot going on, and to remember everything
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surrounding you, especially when you're getting pushed around by a bodyguard.
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I mean, you and I sometimes wait for more than an hour for a VVIP, and so we only have a matter
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of moments to jump in and start asking questions, and it takes a little while to get the noggin
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jogging, but you alluded to a weird thing when we were walking, and the bodyguards were
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pushing us a bit, and Larry Fink didn't have anything to say, and he did something very
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He took out his personal cell phone, and he took snapshots of our faces, me and you and
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Just take a quick peek at what that looked like.
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And I think that was meant to intimidate us in some way, although it's weird, because
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we were going to put the whole video online, we weren't obscuring our...
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...larry thing, because he knows the kind of fear he instills.
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Well, that's the thing, and normally I'd say, what an idiot, what a blowhard, come and get
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We're doing public interest journalism on a public street, asking questions of public
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interest, public policy, like we were doing absolutely legitimate legal journalism, and
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But when you manage $11 trillion, you've got a lot of power.
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I mean, he's got these personal thugs, so we show he's not shy about shutting people
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And it was only afterwards that a friend reminded me, and this is what's so insane, and this
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You know the man who tried to assassinate Donald Trump, the guy who came within an inch of murdering
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His name was Thomas Matthew Crooks, and he appeared in a BlackRock promotional video.
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We never found out more about who was this guy.
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And if BlackRock has within its larger family assassins about whom there is no trace, it's
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Like, BlackRock is so big and so powerful and involved in such, like, world-changing events.
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They both finance, they both provide the weapons in wars, and then they get the contracts to
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So when Larry Fink takes our pictures, and we know that Larry Fink had an actual attempted
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assassin in the larger BlackRock family, maybe he's going to give that photo of us to their
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Yesterday we were joking around that we have no suicidal thoughts, but it's true.
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And it's on the record now for everyone to see because, like I said, there is 1% fear.
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I think that this would be a bit too crazy for him to do.
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But you don't know the lengths in which he'll go, even out of sheer embarrassment of his own
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I don't think that he's been subjected to scrutiny from the peasants maybe in 20 years.
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And he thinks that only his people are allowed here.
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Well, he made the mistake of stepping out of the high security perimeter.
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The questions that you and I asked him were questions that a million people have wanted
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I hope that he was just trying to intimidate us with those pictures.
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But Thomas Matthew Crooks, who was in a BlackRock corporate video, tried to murder the president
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If you're willing to assassinate the president of the United States, you'd think nothing of
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In fact, I think we're getting so much content.
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We're going to have enough to go past the actual week here on the ground.
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And if you support our mission here and you support the fact that we're willing to talk
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and challenge even Larry Fink, even as he threatens us, shipping a couple of dollars to help us
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cover the cost of just getting here because it has been a super expensive project.
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Well, this morning we were, you know, you never know who you're going to find here at the
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They tilt towards socialism, globalism, things like that.
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But out of the corner of our eye, again, we spotted Paul Ryan.
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He'll probably wind up being a footnote in history.
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But for a while, he was the Speaker of the House in the United States, and he was Republican.
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In fact, he was the vice presidential candidate on the Republican ticket.
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Now, I saw him and I thought, well, what's he doing here at Davos at all?
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And I thought, I wonder what he has to say about Donald Trump, because if he's a Republican
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Did he have any congratulations to pass on to the president?
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Here's what happened when I asked him those basic questions.
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Mr. Ryan, can I ask you for your thoughts on Donald?
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Are you optimistic that he'll be a good president?
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I don't like going to walk and talk interviews.
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It sounds like you're resentful of the president.
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It sounds like you're trying to put words in my mouth.
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Well, I'm not, because I'm not eliciting a good answer from you.
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Well, why wouldn't you at least commend the president for his victory?
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Yeah, I need you to send me the QR code so I can get in.
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All the world leaders are at least congratulating him.
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No, I refuse to talk to you because you're being obnoxious.
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Go on Bloomberg yesterday and look at my TV interview and use theirs.
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And you're sort of grudging towards Trump who won.
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You're refusing to say even a grudging congratulations to the new president.
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What are you even doing at a left-wing place like the World Economic Forum?
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Right now, I'm trying to navigate my email, so...
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But wouldn't it be easy for Paul Ryan to say congratulations to the new president?
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I mean, every leader in the world, left-wing or right-wing, has said the same.
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I think he's angry and maybe a little bit disgruntled that he didn't get a chance to be president
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Speaking of politicians, my friend Abiy Amini and my colleague and friend Sheila Gunn-Reed,
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Abiy's my friend too, they both bumped into John Kerry, who is a man about town here at Davos.
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And to his credit, he takes some time to talk with us.
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Elsewhere on our website, wefreports.com, you can see the longer interaction with him, including Sheila and Ali.
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But I want to show just a short interaction that I had with him.
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Remember that John Kerry was a candidate for president under the Democrats.
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He lost, he was made secretary of state, and then he became the climate ambassador.
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He was the secretary of state under Obama, and he was climate ambassador under Joe Biden.
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And so John Kerry is not the climate ambassador for the United States anymore.
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Here's my short conversation with John Kerry about that interesting question.
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Well, if you'd like that, I'll have my office with them all out here.
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I'm skeptical that you will, sir, with all respect.
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Look, I'm not going to put up with your ridiculous...
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I'm asking who you work for because it's not known right now.
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Full-time climate addressing the energy transition and working constructively with people.
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Don't you think that's unusual that Tom Steyer made his money in coal and he's paying you?
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John Kerry is here due to the largesse of a coal baron.
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Tom Steyer, who made his money in coal and now is a green activist.
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That perfectly sums up John Kerry, who, by the way, admitted he came here in part on a private jet.
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We were just walking here today and we came upon a guy offering freebies.
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There's lots of places offering freebies, free hot chocolate, free toques, stuff like that.
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And I looked at them and they look, you know, just like some energy bar.
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I heard it immediately, but some others didn't.
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Here's a guy who's actually following through on the Klaus Schwab exhortation to eat ze bugs.
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Hi, I'm doing a promotion tour for a recently funded company that is doing these bars.
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And, well, this is our energy bar, which uses insect protein as a protein source.
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Now, I want to be very fair to you because you've invited me to talk to you.
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When I hear you say that these are insect bars, I have a natural reflex to gag.
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I think there's a human evolutionary reaction to things that historically have caused us sickness.
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That's why when we see maggots, we almost throw up.
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Because I just make your best case for what I think is an astonishing proposition.
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Well, the thing is, I don't know if it is really an instinct or if it's just learned behavior that we have an aversion against these insects or against spiders or anything.
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Because in other parts of the world, especially in Africa and Asia, many people eat many kinds of insects.
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Why wouldn't we eat beef and chicken and fish and vegetables?
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If we can eat chicken and beef and fish and vegetables, why are you saying we should eat insects?
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Well, it's not in every occasion that we can have beef and cattle and pigs and chicken.
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For example, if there are a few resources in water or the food distribution for hay and stuff that these animals that we mentioned before need, then it can be challenging.
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And then it can be easier to just feed the worms or the insects with some things that are very easy to store.
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Or if you want to take the example that we will go to other planets and we will conquer Mars, for example.
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If we want to take pigs and cows with us to Mars, it will be difficult because of the space and because they need a lot of room.
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And you can basically put an insect into the fridge, put it down to five degrees and then wake it up again once you arrive.
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And so that's why it can be more convenient to base our nutrition on insects than on mammals.
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I have to tell you, your example is so extreme and fantastical and hypothetical because although Mars is in the news because Elon Musk is shooting rockets into space,
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we haven't landed on Mars, we haven't colonized Mars.
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That's such an obscure reason why you're selling these or you're giving these away today.
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What is your moral rationale for eating bugs today in 2025?
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You know, it got allowed in the European Union in 2022 and in Switzerland shortly after four kinds of insects that can be used in human nutrition.
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And so far, many people can afford beef and chicken.
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But at some point, it can be possible that it will be too expensive to buy these for people.
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And so they have another opportunity to consume animal protein for a less price.
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So on the front, it says energy, cocoa, cashew, performance, pumba, upcycled food.
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And so if I were, like that lady just came by, that says contains insect protein.
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No one, I put it to you, not one in a thousand people knows what that means.
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I don't think the words insects or bugs, you call it upcycled food.
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That container says insect protein, but the word insect protein, I don't see it on the wrapper.
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But no one here knows what alphitobius diapyrinus means.
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Do you want to try an energy bar to make with insect protein as a protein source?
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You could have not told me that it's insects, right?
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No, I have to tell everyone because it's a new feature.
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The insect protein and people sometimes have an aversary reaction, so I tell them.
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We have a protein bar in our webshop, which has a lot more protein content.
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So this is the energy bar, but yeah, the protein of this bar is also from insect.
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And you ask me what it means, and I don't know.
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Is that from the Lion King, the creature that ate insects?
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Are you going to finish it or have you had enough?
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Because this is not the sugar coat things, right?
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So in general, those bars are not super tasty, right?
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But if I had to choose, I don't mind actually going for insects.
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The lad says it's not particularly good, not particularly bad.
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Is there a rule in Switzerland or the European Union or anywhere in the world that insect,
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Do you, like, you are telling people verbally that there's bugs in here.
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Is there a rule in Switzerland that it has to be disclosed in a conspicuous way?
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But it's not written there, so it's not necessary.
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I mean, you're being very candid and I see it there.
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But if you were to sell this somewhere, if they didn't know what Alphatobius diaporinus meant,
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Now, I don't know my genus and species that well.
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Not in this part of the world, as I mentioned before.
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It's another part of the world where they eat up to 500 different kinds of species of insects.
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Just in the Western world, this is a new phenomenon.
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I also only one or two years ago started consuming it.
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Now, in some parts of the world, people are extremely poor.
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I'll tell you, if I was starving, if it was a matter of life and death, I would eat whatever was not poisonous to survive.
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But as societies get wealthier, they don't have to eat extreme foods.
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By the way, I very much appreciate you talking to me because I'm a critic and I'm a skeptic.
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So, I am listening carefully to what you have to say.
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But so far, what I'm hearing is it's convenient if we go to Mars.
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We may not have beef and chicken, so this is an alternative.
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And in some very poor parts of the world, they eat bugs.
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Well, as I mentioned before, you need a lot of resources to produce one kilogram of beef or pig meat.
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Whereas with this, you need maybe 15 liters of water.
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So, it's a lot less resources that you need and you don't need fresh pastry.
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You can use an old brand from the mill that is used, that is a leftover from the milling process.
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It's a protein or energy bar made with insect protein.
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And I would say this is the right place to offer this because here when you walk so much,
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you get into the meetings, you have so much of muscle exercise, brain exercise.
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At the time you are offering such an energy kind of a chocolate, it's a great gesture.
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You will very quickly get rid of your muscle pain because it's a big energy resource.
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And can I ask you if you would taste it on camera and tell me what you think?
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Now, did you hear him say that there's insects in that?
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I said it's an energy bar with insect protein as a protein source.
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So, of course, I mean, if it is coming up with insects, that's not a thing which we really expect that because this is something we are here for.
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We want to conserve, we want to conserve the planet, but not by killing the insects, that's not what we really expect from this, no.
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It's like, you know the, I don't know the name, the, like, atiles?
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I won't, but I, but I'm grateful for your time, and I thank you for letting me interview.
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Yes, of course, uh, it's an energy bar made with insect protein as a protein source.
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Insect protein, the buffalo worm, whole buffalo powder is in there.
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I'd like to, I'd like your review, a food review.
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And my partners look very funny at me from there.
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So are you willing to leave vegetarianism behind to eat the bugs?
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So far, seven people like the bugs, one person refuses.
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This is an energy bar with insect protein as a protein source.
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We have more information here on the flyer, and you can also buy them at our website.
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It's in Zurich, so you can also buy them, and then we send them to you.
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I didn't have enough German to speak with him, but he might eat the bugs.
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Not only is marijuana legalized, but so are many hard drugs.
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And if people can use hard drugs paid for by the government, surely they can eat the bugs.
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But my one concern with you, my friend, which I've shared with you, is I don't think that there's sufficient disclosure on here to let people know what they're getting into.
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I know that has nothing to do with you, but I don't think one in a thousand people knows that Alpha Tobias diaporinus is a bug.
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Yeah, I mean, I understand you, but I think there's a very good legal system in Switzerland, which is very...
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I'm just saying I think it's very inconspicuous.
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I really think that probably many people still think like you, but I think also it's a trend that it's picking up more and more speed.
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And, well, we are here on the forefront because there are not so many producers of insect-based food so far, but we are here and we are showing it to the world.
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In Canada, our government gave millions of dollars to an insect farm called Aspire.
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I am not the founder of the company, so I'm not that much in the topic, but I think it's private investors.
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Upcycled is the bran and the milling process that we use to feed the insects.
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So, otherwise would be either burned and turned into gas because it's a leftover that can't be used for producing flour.
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Or we use it to feed it to the worms and they...
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So, you're saying you're feeding the worms something that would otherwise be waste. Is that what you're saying?
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Well, you've been very helpful. You've answered all my questions with an eerie calm. You're absolutely calm. And, you know, those happy faces don't lie. Those kids seem to like the bugs. That Sikh gentleman. He didn't hear you when you said insects. He didn't hear you. He was...
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You heard that he didn't hear me. Well, I asked him. I said, did you hear? And so that's my worry is that someone will not knowingly eat the bugs.
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I think halal only is working with mammals or...
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Halal... I'm not... I'm not firm with the topic of halal.
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Okay, I was just curious. I don't think it's kosher.
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Maybe I'm wrong on that. I don't know my kosher rules that well either.
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Well, listen, thanks again for talking with me.
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And one of the criticisms of the World Economic Forum is that they eat fancy five-star meals and they tell ordinary people to eat the bugs, as Klaus Schwab would pronounce it.
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But here you are and people seem to be willingly eating the bugs.
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So I'm slightly more confused than I was before, but I'm grateful to you. Thanks very much.
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Okay. It was my pleasure. And yeah, enjoy your time at the Economic Forum.
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Yeah, I'm not going to eat the bugs, but I'm worried that a lot of people will, because unless you know the Latin name for the mealworm...
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And I can't even remember it. I said it about five times in the interview. It's so obscure. I don't think one in a thousand people knows what that Latin name for a mealworm is.
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Nowhere is there a warning you are about to eat the bugs. I think there's a bit of trickery involved there. I think it's sort of gross.
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But I'm grateful to the guy for speaking with me so candidly.
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Well, that's our show from Davos. It's very interesting to come here and I'm grateful to you for your support.
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You know, we flew in six people. Sheila, me and Avi are the three journalists. And each of us had a videographer in attendance.
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So it was a big operation. We had to fly all the way to Zurich and then take trains up to Davos. And we had to stay one town over because all the hotel rooms in Davos are booked.
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So every morning we took the train. It's a big logistical undertaking. It's very expensive. It's the most expensive project of our year.
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But I think it's one of the most important. And it's become sort of a signature move for Rebel News.
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So I hope you enjoyed it. Again, for a lot more video content about our trip to the World Economic Forum, please go to wefreports.com.
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That's my show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us at Rebel News around the world, including here at Davos, see you at home.