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- February 25, 2026
EZRA LEVANT | From UK cell to U.S. Capitol: Tommy Robinson hits Congress
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Hello, my friends. I saw Tommy Robinson yesterday. He's arrived in America. Let me give you my
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thoughts on the very interesting turn of events in his life, plus an interview with the lad.
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We'll also talk to Tracy Wilson of the Firearms Coalition about the crazy, it's just so silly,
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how the government is trying to ban scary-looking guns. That's pretty much how they define them.
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Tonight, Tommy Robinson is out of a UK prison and into the US Congress. It's February 24th,
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and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Shame on you, you censorious bug.
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You know, we fought alongside Tommy Robinson for many years, about a decade now, if you
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can believe it. And a year ago, he was in solitary confinement. It was terrible. I visited
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him in prison the one time before the prison warden stopped allowing me and various other
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visitors in to see him. And I could see it was starting to wreak havoc on his mental state.
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You know, it's a form of torture. It's a psychological torture. He wasn't physically being tortured,
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but being separated from other people for 23 and a half hours a day. And then sometimes when he had
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family visits, having them canceled at the last minute by the prison warden, absolutely abusive
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behavior. And outrageous claims against Tommy being made by the media. They didn't feel any
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solidarity with him for freedom of speech or for standing up to the government. They are regime
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journalists even worse than in Canada. I know that from 10 years of traveling there. There were,
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while he was in prison, by the way, there were other legal cases proceeding against him. You might
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remember he was arrested and charged under the Terrorism Act, not for doing any terrorism,
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but for refusing to give the police the pin code, the password to his cell phone, because he said he
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had some very confidential and sensitive material on there when he interviewed various victims of
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British rape gangs. So he said, there's no way he was going to give that information to police
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because in the past, the police had given that info to the rapists. And you know, sorry to go down
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that rabbit hole a bit, but that was Tommy's reasoning. This was all pending against him. And we had to
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pay his legal bills for crowdfunding, which is tough to do. But what a difference a year makes. Now he's
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not in solitary confinement. He's out of prison. And if I'm not mistaken, the prison governor who was so
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abusive, she's moved on. The Terrorism Act, it went to trial. And Tommy wasn't just acquitted. He was
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acquitted smashingly. And the judge went on a tear against how the police were abusive and political and how they
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only arrested Tommy because they didn't like, or they knew his politics. Very interesting. And an
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enormous, uh, um, innovation is that Elon Musk took over the financing of Tommy Robinson's legal
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cases. It was a pleasure for us to do to crowdfund, but it's hard to do it. And our donors only have so
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much capacity. So for Elon Musk to defend Tommy, to pay the legal bills, what an incredible relief
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to Tommy and his family. And frankly, it relieves us here at Rebel News from that duty. It was a happy
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duty for us, but if the world's richest man wants to help Tommy, I think I'll back up.
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So Tommy got out of prison. Uh, and you may recall on September 13th of last year, he actually put
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together the largest rally in UK history. And you might remember we built sort of free speech trip
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around that. If you were one of the lucky people on that trip and a surprise guest at the rally
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was Elon Musk. Here's a quick clip of that. Imagine that Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson, united at the rally.
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Musk wasn't there in person, but he appeared on video screen. Take a look.
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Hello.
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Okay, congratulations. Uh, congratulations, Tommy, on, uh, putting together an amazing event
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and, uh, really rallying the people of Britain.
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Elon, none of this could have happened without you giving the British public access to the truth
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and giving us free speech and fighting for our free speech. So on behalf of Great Britain and the
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British public, we're incredibly grateful, Elon.
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You're most, you're most, you're most welcome. Um, you're most welcome. And, um, you may notice
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this t-shirt that I'm wearing, uh, is great British author, George Orwell. What would Orwell think?
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I think that's generally a good way to look at these things. Uh, he would want freedom of speech.
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He would want the people to know what's real. Uh, he'd want the people to fight against government
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oppression, um, and, and fight for the truth and fight for the future of Britain.
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Well, it was only better things from there. Every day, a new, uh, success. His U.S. visa,
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which he got just last week, is a miraculous thing because, of course, Tommy Robinson has been
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convicted of various offenses, uh, going, some of them going back years. And those would normally
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make him, um, not considered to travel to the United States. He would be barred from entry
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into America. Tommy had to go to the U.S. consulate and go through, or the U.S. embassy and go through
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point by point explaining the background of why they were politicized, cases of lawfare against
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him. And he convinced them. And, uh, to me, it's an enormous rebuke by the United States government
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of the UK. If Tommy's been convicted, let's say five times, and if he's been sent to prison
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five times, that sounds like a pretty bad dude. But when the U.S. government looked at all the
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actual charges and convictions and saw the results and listened to Tommy, they said, no, he's actually
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not a terrible person as he's been deemed by the UK. And in fact, it sure looks like there's a lot
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of lawfare there, especially that last ruling by the, by the British judge confirmed it. Um,
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we're learning more and more about the UA, UK legal system all the time, by the way, about how
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Keir Starmer is using lawyers to affect awful changes. You know, Keir Starmer used to be a civil
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liberties lawyer himself, by the way, it's just so astonishing to believe that now. Um,
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I, uh, you know, they're so lawyerly in the UK. I hear that the UK lawyers are refusing to let the
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United States operate from U.S. army bases in the UK. The U.S. has a, uh, a joint air base in the United
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Kingdom where they fly their refueling jets and their fighters and their bombers and things.
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I understand that the British government has refused to allow the U.S. to operate from there
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in any attacks on Iran for legal reasons. It would be a war crime to do so. This is how the UK is being
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run. So I think that the offering of a visa to Tommy was not just a rebuke in terms of the censorship
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of Tommy and the bullying of Tommy. I think it's the United States slapping back at Keir Starmer and
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saying your whole legal system is junk. Anyways, he was in the United States and I went down there
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yesterday to see him and he looks great and he looks in fine health and he's fit and he's happy
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and he's busy. Uh, he feels like he's the toast of the town. So many people in America know him
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and there's reasons for that. I mean, Jordan Peterson really mainstreamed him and he's done other
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shows, but for 10 years, we were just sort of pounding away on Tommy Robinson. And I think
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we really helped introduce him to a lot of people on this side of the ocean. Um, I did an interview
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with them, which we posted last, uh, last night or this morning. I can't remember. I'll show that
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to you in a minute in case you missed it. But one of the things I asked Tommy is look, now that you
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can come to America, you know, we've done events with Tommy in the UK, obviously. We did some events
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with Tommy in Canada. I don't know if you participated, but we had a speaking engagement in Calgary,
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one in Toronto. And unfortunately the one in, I think it was in Edmonton got blocked because
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Tommy was arrested in Canada. But the United States, of course, is such an important and huge
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country. Now that Tommy has a visa to go to America, we talked about, um, putting on some
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events with him. And I spent some time today trying to organize that. I'll keep you posted,
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but in the meantime, here's my interview with Tommy Robinson.
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We have a very special guest today. Last time I saw him, it was in front of the Union
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Jack. Today it's in front of the Stars and Stripes. I'm talking about my old friend, Tommy
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Robinson. Great to see you in America. It's great to be here as well. We're physically
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in the office of General Flynn, which is sort of incredible. But I think even more incredible
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is that you're here in America at all. I mean, how did you get in a year ago? My God,
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you were in prison in solitary confinement. The world said you were done. Today you're on top
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of the world in America. How?
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Do you know, I had stopped smiling since I got here. I feel relaxed. I feel comfortable.
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Do you know, I thought about exactly what you just said last week. I thought about the last
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12 months. I thought, what's happened in the last 12 months? Jeez, I spent seven months
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in solitary confinement. Then we'd done September 13th, the biggest event in British history.
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Now I'm standing in the United States of America. Do you know, I got to, I got an, I got
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a day's notice of this. I got a phone call. I was in Spain. No, I was, I was in Portugal,
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but I had a rental car from Spain. So I was in Portugal and I'd left after I got an, the ISIS threat.
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So I got a, like a fatwa from ISIS. I was named in their publication. So I left the country
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and then I'm sitting there and I've got a phone call saying, yeah, you need to get back to
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the UK. I was like, why? I said, get to the American embassy. You're getting a waiver.
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Yeah.
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And let's just stop there for a second because strict interpretation of the law. You have
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been convicted of various offenses that would normally bar you from America. And Donald Trump
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is very hard on immigrants for you to get a special permission from the state department
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to come in. There's a lot of meaning there.
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I had to write out and they went through each of my convictions. Yeah. So I had to sit in
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the American embassy. This was a few months ago. And I went through my convictions and what
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happened in my convictions and explained each of them because they're convicted that it's
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lawfare. It's been a campaign of lawfare.
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By the government.
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In fact, the last, the last two cases that they've prosecuted me on, both judges have ruled
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I've been persecuted, targeted, and it's been unlawful. Now, why did I win those cases?
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Because Elon Musk stepped in. Yeah. So Elon Musk stepped in. So those last two cases,
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I said, it's just like the last seven cases. Yeah. I would have been cleared. I should have
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been cleared. I've never been tried by a jury. So I think America are aware and Donald Trump
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certainly aware. They have him down as convicted criminal. If Donald Trump didn't win the election,
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he had to spend the rest of his life in prison. Many Americans know this. Yeah. Well, they
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know about the politicization of the judiciary. They've all witnessed it themselves. They know
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about my story. I've had Americans stop me here. Police officers stop me here. You're the guy
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they sent to jail for speech. So that's the American view on it. Remember, America has
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a very different view to free speech than Europe does and Britain does.
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But it shouldn't be because Britain was where we got our free speech from. Britain was where,
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you know, the Magna Carta limited the crown and, you know, John Milton. You guys, the Brits,
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were where it started. That's where parliament came from. How come the mothership is losing
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its freedom, whereas America seems to be getting it back?
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They have a constitution and fear is paralyzing and fear of being branded racist, fear of
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cancel culture, fear of losing your job. And they're legitimate fears. Remember, people
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do lose their jobs. People have been cancelled and people do want to attack you. Violence
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within Britain and the government wants to imprison you. So innocent people have been
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in prison. We've seen it. The weaponization of the courts and the judiciary. So I think it's
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legitimate that people have been scared. But I'm blessed to be in the United States of
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America. As I said, fight like a Flynn. We're in General Flynn's office, a gentleman who I've
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watched for years, had the utmost respect for. You know, in the last 72 hours, I have met
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some incredible characters. My feet haven't touched the ground. And I'm sitting with such
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influential people who each one of them are recognizing, are thanking me. And for me, it's
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like I'm hated in British Parliament. There's 650 MPs. They look down their nose upon us.
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I go to, I went to Denmark and got a standing ovation in Parliament. I went to Poland and was
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invited by members of government. I've got a state, I've got a state visit. I've got a state
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visit by Israel. Now I'm in the United States. I've just come out of a meeting with Congress.
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So for me, I feel vindicated. I feel like we've kept in the fight the whole time. And although
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the British government have always attacked us, the rest of the world is looking at things very
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differently.
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Let's just spend one more minute on Elon Musk, because he took over the payment of your fees.
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We used to crowdfund your legal fees. And he said, no, we're going to make it. It was a stand he took,
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which was very bold. And he appeared at your September 13th rally on that giant screen.
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I think he's really, he makes a difference in so many ways, not just as an industrialist,
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but as a free speecher.
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Do you see the, there's a massive, I'd call it a political revolution and a cultural revolution
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currently happening in Great Britain. None of that would be happening if it wasn't for Elon Musk
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purchased next. None of it. The country would still be asleep. People would still be scared.
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People wouldn't be speaking out. The million people you saw on the streets, none of them
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would have been there. He literally, and I was down, Ezra. I've been down lots of times.
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I've been up and I've been down and sometimes I felt defeated and literally I was defeated
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and he literally picked me up. And that was just by, when I say pick me up, he picked us
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all up. He gave us a platform and a voice where people can listen to what we're saying
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and that can change public opinion and not just change public opinion. It can give courage
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to the public to speak up and start addressing and talking about these issues. And that gives
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courage to politicians and that gives courage to journalists. And then all before you
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know it, there's a big open, free discussion being had. And that's what, and that's what
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witness happiness are. I'm forever grateful to Elon. I'm forever grateful to, I believe
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that Jordan Peterson played a key part before Elon stepped in when I was in prison. Jordan
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Peterson brought me in from the dark. Jordan Peterson sat down as such a worldwide recognised
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academic. Thank you, Jordan. And thank you, Tammy. They sat me down and I feel they brought
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me in from the dark. They gave me an opportunity to sit down in there and tell my story. And
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that had 4 million views yesterday. When I met you in Canada, that had 4 million views.
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So I was blessed by that. That's then got people in there. Do you know how many emails
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I got when I was in prison from people who said, I wrote you off as a racist till I saw
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you on Jordan Peterson. So that, I know the change that that interview had. And then what
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Elon Musk has done, not just for me, but for Britain, for all of us, is give us a voice.
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And now I'm stood here. And to be honest, I'd probably be in jail right now, again, if he
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hadn't defended my court cases. And I've got another court case, Ezra. When I've returned from
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here, I faced 10 years in prison in October. Was that the one when the paparazzi stalked
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you? Come after me. I turned the camera on them. And the paparazzi want you prosecuted
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for taking photos of them. But they're paparazzi. I faced 10 years. For telling them, I'm going
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to come with a camera and ask you questions. Now, again, Elon, I've sent his lawyer the case
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files on that. And he's agreed to support the defence of that. I believe now, I'm not sitting
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near that concerned, because I'll win.
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Well, I was there in court when the last judge gave his ruling on this crazy arrest
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of you under the Terrorism Act. And the judge actually was disgusted.
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He was outraged. In both the last cases, outraged. He couldn't believe it. He literally...
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And when they give... I thought when he gives his verdict, it's going to be difficult for
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him to side with me. But he didn't just side with me in both of them. He went against the
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police. It's basically saying it's outrageous what you've done. You've targeted me.
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I remember a few months before that, you were at a big march against anti-Semitism. And the
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Jews there were so grateful to have your friendship. But the police sent over a dozen cops to grab
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you, pepper spray you, and pull you out. And I thought, that many police to arrest Tommy?
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And I thought to myself, there must be a hundred bureaucrats, lawyers, police who do nothing
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all day, but track Tommy Robinson and try and get him one way or the other. It really is
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a vendetta. And I'm hoping your trip to America snaps them out of that. That judge wasn't happy
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with it.
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I don't think you all snap them out of it. This is the problem. I don't think they see
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that. Because even the last prison sentence, when they gave me 18 months, they knew the
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world was watching. They knew everyone's seen my film.
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They just didn't care?
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They don't care.
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They don't care. Do you know why they don't care? Because seven months of solitary confinement
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damaged me.
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I can testify to that. You were wobbled by that. It's a kind of mental torture.
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I was still wobbled recently from it. I'm still wobbled from it. So I've still struggled
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from it. But they know that. So they know that. And what is their purpose? The last thing
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they want, which they failed at, the last thing they want is the world hearing about their
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failures, about their policy failures, government failures, about the abuse on free speech,
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about the oppression of the British public. They don't want the world knowing this. And I'm here
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to tell the world.
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Let's get back to your trip here. First of all, I just can't get over how amazing
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it is. Like that must have been approved at a very senior level. I mean, maybe even Secretary
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of State Rubio. I don't know. But to approve someone who's been convicted time and again
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by the British state.
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Do you know what I think it is? I think it's the American government. They're fully aware
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of what Keir Starmer done after the riots. They're fully aware of what happened to Lucy
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Connolly. She was invited here.
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And they wouldn't let her go, I think, if I recall.
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Yeah, she was invited. She's done 31 months in prison. So they've been watching. And if you
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listen to Rubio's speeches, if you listen to J.D. Vance's speeches, if you listen to
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Donald Trump speaking to Keir Starmer, they're fully aware of there's no free speech. They're
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fully aware of what they're doing to the British public. They're fully aware of the European
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Union's abuse of power.
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And those Europeans want to go after Elon Musk. They want to prosecute him, fine him. They
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are fighting back, aren't they, the Europeans?
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Yeah, they're trying to. Yeah, they're trying to. But they're fighting back against the most
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powerful nation in the world, with the most powerful government in the world, with the
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most powerful president in the world. And a president that believes deeply in freedom
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of speeches. So to Americans that are watching this, I keep saying it, I don't think when
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they voted for Donald Trump and they called it a vote to save America, it was far bigger
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than that. It's to save Western civilization. We, all of us, have been given light at the
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end of the tunnel. We now don't feel like we're alone. We now know that the most powerful
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nation in the world is warning our government. They're telling them, we're watching what you're
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doing with your citizens. We're watching. And if we don't like it, maybe sanctions, whatever,
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they're putting pressure on the British government. So it's great for us. It's a great feeling
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to know that we have friends who, whether it be friends, I'm not saying they're our
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friends, but people who agree with free speech. And the speech from J.D. Vance in Munich and
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from Rubio. To sit there, from my point of view, we've been silenced. We live in a post
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free speech era. Many don't realise that. And to sit and watch those speeches, it just
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lit me up just thinking, right, then now they're getting told. They're not going to be able
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to just continue what they've been doing. So yeah, I'm blessed to be in, man. I'm
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blessed to be here. The love I've been shown, Ezra. My phone from Americans, random Americans,
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just families, please come to us for dinner. We'll cook for you. Just everywhere. I've
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got invites to pretty much every state in this country. So it's a beautiful feeling for me
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to know how attached people have been, how many people have followed my story. And the
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love that they're showing me is great, man. From where I was 12 months ago, it was even
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nine months ago.
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Well, you've suffered for everyone. They saw your suffering, which you chose. I was there
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in court when you were sentenced to solitary. And the judge said, he said to you, if you
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take down that offending tweet now, I will lop months off your sentence. And you did not
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bend the knee. I honestly don't know anyone else in the world who would choose to suffer
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for extra months on a point of principle. That is extremely rare. I think people see that
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in you. And I'm not an expert in Christian theology, but I think there's something Christ-like
00:20:20.380
about suffering to aid your fellow man, Tommy. I think that's the reason people love you.
00:20:25.860
Yeah, well, I think that it was successful. I don't want to say it was successful, but
00:20:31.000
it was successful. 167 million people watched that film. They know the judiciary is corrupt.
00:20:35.840
They know they lied.
00:20:36.780
What was the name of the film again?
00:20:38.020
Silenced.
00:20:38.820
It was about free speech.
00:20:39.920
It wasn't silenced, was it, guys? How did that work, Justice Nicklin?
00:20:44.200
Let me ask you about the last day or two you've had here. And don't tell me any private
00:20:48.080
meetings that you have to keep under your hat. But tell me the kind of folks you've
00:20:51.620
been meeting. You just came from Congress. What do you have planned? I mean, I'm sure
00:20:56.400
a lot of people want a piece of you.
00:20:57.900
We have lots planned. We've got a website, TommyinUSA.com. People can follow our journey,
00:21:01.940
follow our story. Lots of important meetings with important individuals. I'm meeting some
00:21:06.780
of the most fascinating people in the world. People I've watched and wanted to shake their
00:21:10.580
hand and thought I'd never get the opportunity to. I'm in the United States. I'm here.
00:21:14.440
I'm enjoying every second of it. Yeah. Look, the UK population, Islamic population is at
00:21:21.140
6%. And since Churchill and Gladstone, not one member of our parliament, in all those
00:21:26.540
years, we've had terrorist attacks, children blown up, 26 of them. We've had beheadings.
00:21:31.160
We've had women stabbed in the throat. We've had all these mass killings in the name of
00:21:34.080
Islam. Not one MP has ever mentioned it. The United States population is at 1%. They've
00:21:38.300
already created a fight back through members of Congress. I just come out of a meeting in
00:21:42.840
Congress. They want to, they're at the point. Minnesota helped. Nick Shirley. This is the
00:21:47.280
importance of citizen journalism, Ezra. I'd say, Ezra, you were the, how do I say, you
00:21:51.120
were the birth of independent media, in my eyes. You were the first. And look what's
00:21:55.380
come from that. I come from working for you, yeah? And look at now what come out of Nick
00:21:58.980
Shirley, which is the best time for America to realize that they will turn a blind eye
00:22:03.440
for the block vote of the Somali community.
00:22:05.580
So you're connecting with Nick Shirley?
00:22:06.940
Nick, I'm meeting Nick tonight. I'm meeting Nick tonight. I'm in Congress interviewing another
00:22:11.440
congressman tomorrow. I've met with, I met with Carrie Lake the other day and I've watched
00:22:15.880
her. I watched what they did to her during the election. I'm meeting with some fascinating
00:22:19.920
individuals and the best individuals. And I'm traveling around America. I'm really, as
00:22:24.160
I said, I'm blessed to be here.
00:22:25.160
I hope you can.
00:22:25.980
And my kids arrive.
00:22:27.400
Well, that's going to be amazing. And you can let your hair down a little bit without the
00:22:31.280
stress. I know that being in the UK is physically stressful because you're always looking out of
00:22:36.260
the corner of your eye. My hope is that you'll have access to some big platforms here. And the
00:22:43.120
biggest of all is Joe Rogan. He's got an attention span. He talks to guests for two, three or more
00:22:48.800
hours. Your story takes a few hours to tell to a newcomer that doesn't know what's going on in the UK.
00:22:55.460
It's my hope that you'll get on some of these big shows. Do you have anything you can tell us
00:22:59.400
about yet or is it still in the planning stages?
00:23:01.900
I have non-stop sit-downs, interviews,
00:23:05.340
Lara Logan, just so many
00:23:07.540
people. I've got a long list.
00:23:09.220
Don't have Joe Rogan at the minute.
00:23:11.100
We've got to get him. Glenn Beck?
00:23:12.640
Glenn Beck, yes. I've spoke to Glenn Beck.
00:23:14.780
He's great.
00:23:15.680
Yeah, he's brilliant. But I'd like, as you said,
00:23:18.560
to tell my story. Do you know the last thing
00:23:20.660
they wanted? When I first told my story
00:23:22.720
after five years of leading the English Fence League,
00:23:24.700
the first opportunity I got to tell my story
00:23:26.280
was at the Oxford Union.
00:23:27.580
That was amazing.
00:23:28.120
And after that, they banned me from every university
00:23:30.000
because they don't want me telling my story.
00:23:31.960
That video was your first million view video,
00:23:34.640
if I'm not mistaken.
00:23:35.280
It's the most watched discussion at Oxford University.
00:23:38.000
So it was an ability for me to sit down
00:23:40.800
in a calm environment and tell my story
00:23:42.580
with evidence and warn people.
00:23:44.940
And the reason why I think,
00:23:46.280
I come to America 10 years ago with a
00:23:48.000
warning to America, which is what I'm here to do.
00:23:51.220
Warn America.
00:23:52.020
I wish someone come to the UK 34 years ago
00:23:54.260
and said, listen, this is what's going to happen.
00:23:55.960
This is how it's going to happen.
00:23:56.860
I'm not talking about what I've read in the book.
00:23:58.380
I'm talking about life experience.
00:23:59.380
I can tell you mass immigration,
00:24:00.680
what it's going to do.
00:24:01.220
You're going to become a minority.
00:24:02.480
This is what's going to happen to freedom.
00:24:03.660
This is what happens with Islam.
00:24:04.640
This is what happens with the police.
00:24:05.840
This is two-tier policing.
00:24:06.880
I can talk about every single aspect of it
00:24:08.680
in a long-form discussion.
00:24:09.940
So I'd love the opportunity to tell that story.
00:24:11.780
And it's important for me.
00:24:13.640
It's important for Britain.
00:24:14.740
It's important for America.
00:24:15.800
Because the same problems over the last eight years
00:24:17.720
by Joe Biden, they're flooding in here.
00:24:20.020
I think Joe Rogan would have the patience to listen.
00:24:24.280
He'd have smart questions.
00:24:27.100
He's very respectful of controversy.
00:24:29.840
I think that would be a wonderful interview.
00:24:31.260
Last question, Tommy,
00:24:32.100
and thanks for letting me catch up with you.
00:24:34.520
Ordinary people who support you
00:24:36.620
probably want to come and hear you speak.
00:24:39.300
And I know you did a couple of events in Canada.
00:24:41.520
You just did a big event in Israel.
00:24:43.880
Of course, you're massive events in London.
00:24:45.960
Do you think you're going to have any occasions
00:24:47.720
where you might give a speech in Washington or LA
00:24:49.800
or something that ordinary people can sign up for
00:24:52.160
and get a ticket to?
00:24:54.920
Will you sort that out?
00:24:55.940
Because I can't...
00:24:56.700
I'll help.
00:24:57.280
Oh, yeah.
00:24:57.720
Love to.
00:24:58.720
I'm just literally...
00:24:59.760
I said my feet have not touched the ground
00:25:01.340
every minute of every day.
00:25:02.360
I'm not good at that.
00:25:02.840
I'd love to help.
00:25:03.600
Yeah.
00:25:04.120
Help if you can.
00:25:04.860
Because Joe won't want more than anything,
00:25:05.960
which is why we were going to go travel
00:25:07.200
to some American families.
00:25:08.460
So American families will reach out to me.
00:25:10.120
I've always said we're by the people for the people.
00:25:11.620
I want to meet the normal people.
00:25:12.760
I want to meet the people.
00:25:13.540
I think people would fill an auditorium
00:25:15.800
to hear you give a talk.
00:25:17.480
Like a presentation.
00:25:19.240
I'd love to.
00:25:20.860
I'm here for a little while.
00:25:23.160
Let's put it that way.
00:25:23.940
Obviously, I've got my event on May 16th in the UK.
00:25:26.080
It's going to be the biggest event.
00:25:27.540
Are you coming?
00:25:28.300
I'll be there.
00:25:28.860
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:29.260
It's going to be the biggest event.
00:25:30.240
So I've got a lot of work to do around that
00:25:32.020
and to build up to it.
00:25:33.280
But at the minute, as I said,
00:25:35.600
I'm waiting for my family to arrive.
00:25:37.160
I'm going to enjoy a real relaxed time.
00:25:39.300
I'm going to work like crazy.
00:25:40.520
Anyone who's been watching our content we're producing,
00:25:42.140
we're going to non-stop.
00:25:43.280
We're non-stop whilst Aiden, the main man, is here.
00:25:46.900
He goes home in probably 10 days.
00:25:48.920
Then I'm having some time with my children.
00:25:50.380
I can't wait.
00:25:51.000
I'm really happy to hear that.
00:25:52.340
Your kids, obviously, have paid the price their whole life.
00:25:55.340
They're proud of their dad.
00:25:56.300
I've met your kids.
00:25:57.580
They love you.
00:25:58.920
And they believe in what you're doing.
00:26:00.340
But just to have some normal time with dad,
00:26:02.840
doing fun stuff in America,
00:26:04.240
which is great for road trips.
00:26:06.220
It's bigger than the UK.
00:26:07.580
You can stretch your legs.
00:26:08.540
I said, my son arrives tomorrow.
00:26:10.360
He can't wait, man.
00:26:11.280
Well, that's wonderful.
00:26:12.240
Listen, I can't tell you how happy I am to see you.
00:26:14.500
I remember when I visited you in solitary confinement in that prison.
00:26:18.140
And I could see what they were trying to break you.
00:26:21.260
And they didn't.
00:26:22.480
And here you are.
00:26:23.640
I think you're on top of the world.
00:26:25.360
And I can hardly wait to see what you do next.
00:26:27.440
Congratulations to you.
00:26:28.600
And on behalf of everyone around the world who loves freedom,
00:26:32.120
who loves the UK,
00:26:33.240
and who is worried about the things you have exposed,
00:26:35.980
thank you for keeping up the fight, my friend.
00:26:38.920
And all the best.
00:26:39.940
Thanks for always being there.
00:26:41.120
There he is, Tommy Robinson in America.
00:26:43.600
Who would have thunk it?
00:26:44.480
Come on.
00:26:46.760
Well, I'm excited.
00:26:48.020
And I'm happy for him.
00:26:49.980
And it gives me a little bit of hope.
00:26:51.700
You know, the kids use the phrase black pill,
00:26:53.760
which means everything's doomed.
00:26:55.280
Or blue pill means you're woke.
00:26:58.340
And red pill means you're sort of alive to the way the world is.
00:27:01.360
Well, white pill, and I'm just using the kids' lingo here,
00:27:04.700
is when you're really hopeful again.
00:27:06.740
And the success of Tommy just in the last year,
00:27:09.300
from solitary confinement to toast to the town in America,
00:27:13.000
it gives you a little bit of hope, doesn't it?
00:27:15.260
Hey, stay with us.
00:27:16.500
Here's an interview I did with Tracy Wilson on Canadian firearms.
00:27:25.280
Hey, welcome back.
00:27:29.820
Gun crime is, it's a new highs every week.
00:27:32.880
I mean, do I need to tell you that?
00:27:33.920
There's a crime wave across Canada.
00:27:35.660
And, of course, the Toronto police response to that
00:27:38.720
is to tell people to have their key fobs for their cars
00:27:42.300
near the front door so that when their homes are invaded,
00:27:45.840
it's easy for the criminals to get the key fobs.
00:27:48.240
They don't have to go marauding through the house.
00:27:50.460
If you think I'm kidding, let me refresh your memory
00:27:52.300
with this embarrassing clip.
00:27:54.480
There's also updated advice for all vehicle owners.
00:27:57.980
A message echoed by Toronto police
00:27:59.540
speaking at an Etobicoke safety meeting last month.
00:28:02.540
Constable Marco Ricciardi had a new message for vehicle owners
00:28:05.740
who keep their fobs in Faraday pouches.
00:28:08.900
To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home,
00:28:13.000
leave your fobs at your front door.
00:28:14.420
Because they're breaking into your home to steal your car.
00:28:17.120
They don't want anything else.
00:28:18.080
A lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them.
00:28:21.080
And they're not toy guns, they're real guns.
00:28:23.040
They're loaded.
00:28:23.600
Yeah, so it's a lot easier to scapegoat law-abiding gun owners
00:28:29.200
than to try and take on the crime wave,
00:28:31.820
some of which comes from overseas.
00:28:33.400
I mean, you saw this the other day from the Surrey police.
00:28:37.160
This was broadcast in both English and foreign languages,
00:28:41.400
trying to convince, pleading with people, in fact,
00:28:45.240
not to engage in extortion in the new country.
00:28:49.560
Take a look at this official police statement in multi-languages.
00:28:53.440
Take a look.
00:28:54.160
Have you been asked to help others extort people for money?
00:28:57.940
Have you been offered money to shoot at a house or business
00:29:01.400
or send threatening messages to people?
00:29:04.200
Don't take the bait.
00:29:05.660
You are being offered a small sum of money to take enormous risk
00:29:09.760
that can harm you, your family, and everyday hardworking people.
00:29:14.360
This is not why you came to Canada.
00:29:16.960
You came to go to school, to find a better life,
00:29:20.660
to be one of the first in your family to start something new.
00:29:24.240
You did not come here to become a criminal.
00:29:27.120
For many of you, your family or temple sponsored you to be here.
00:29:31.580
Committing these crimes isn't worth the dishonour,
00:29:34.540
the shame and disappointment you would bring to those
00:29:38.140
who have given so much for you to be here.
00:29:41.540
Don't risk being arrested, jailed, and removed from Canada.
00:29:46.060
If you need help or you have confidential information,
00:29:50.220
call our Surrey extortion tip line at 236-485-5149.
00:29:56.820
There is a reward fund of $250,000 available
00:30:00.340
for information that helps us stop extortions in Surrey.
00:30:04.200
Yeah, if someone is willing to extort another person
00:30:10.800
and threaten to murder them,
00:30:13.080
my guess is that simply scolding them
00:30:15.380
and telling them to be a good Canadian isn't going to work,
00:30:18.420
but what do I know?
00:30:19.920
And as part of these placebos,
00:30:22.100
as part of these misdirections,
00:30:25.660
the government is targeting what they call
00:30:27.940
assault-style firearms.
00:30:31.020
And they call it assault-style firearms
00:30:32.800
because they really don't have any other way
00:30:34.840
to categorize the guns they don't like
00:30:37.160
other than they look scary.
00:30:39.400
I mean, what is an assault rifle after all?
00:30:43.780
By the way, very few of these weapons
00:30:45.300
would actually be used in a military assault.
00:30:48.320
I remember not long ago,
00:30:49.340
the government of Canada said
00:30:50.420
it was going to have a gun buyback,
00:30:52.700
and then it would give those guns
00:30:54.420
to the Ukrainian military
00:30:56.060
to defend themselves against the Russian invasion.
00:30:59.780
The Ukrainians didn't want the little plinkers,
00:31:02.000
the little pow, pow, pow guns.
00:31:03.960
They want modern weapons.
00:31:05.540
And the whole thing, again, was just a PR exercise.
00:31:08.740
Joining us now to talk about the looming deadline
00:31:11.520
for handing in your assault-style firearms
00:31:16.060
is our friend Tracy Wilson
00:31:17.760
for the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.
00:31:21.300
Hey, Tracy, nice to see you again.
00:31:22.880
It's great to see you too, Ezra.
00:31:24.180
Thanks for having me on.
00:31:25.320
You're welcome.
00:31:26.080
You know, I think it's always,
00:31:28.460
I mean, funny is the wrong word for it,
00:31:30.360
but whenever there's a new cabinet minister
00:31:33.180
in charge of firearms,
00:31:35.120
if they go to a committee
00:31:36.220
and someone like, say, Andrew Lawton,
00:31:38.080
who knows a little bit of firearms,
00:31:39.600
asks them,
00:31:40.360
what is an assault weapon
00:31:42.460
or an assault-style weapon?
00:31:45.260
And to see them,
00:31:46.120
bada, badee, bada, stammering,
00:31:48.720
they don't know.
00:31:50.300
They just know it's scary for them
00:31:52.900
and scary for the public.
00:31:54.840
Most of the ministers in Canadian history
00:31:58.020
who have sought to ban guns
00:31:59.880
have probably not even held one
00:32:01.580
or maybe even seen one in real life.
00:32:04.360
Well, that's probably why
00:32:05.660
we've been through six public safety ministers
00:32:07.700
in the last decade,
00:32:09.360
is it's one of those files
00:32:10.740
that it's almost a punishment to get it.
00:32:13.260
And you're right.
00:32:14.320
There's no such thing as assault-style firearm.
00:32:17.220
An actual assault weapon
00:32:18.740
was prohibited in Canada back in 1978,
00:32:22.520
and those have full-auto capability.
00:32:24.660
There is no military in the world
00:32:26.400
that uses the firearms
00:32:27.980
that they are talking about
00:32:29.100
under this confiscation program.
00:32:31.520
Yeah, I mean,
00:32:32.520
they're not muskets.
00:32:34.400
That's sort of old-timey,
00:32:35.960
like the three musketeers.
00:32:37.460
But, I mean,
00:32:38.140
I'm not an expert in firearms either,
00:32:39.700
and I feel slightly inadequate
00:32:41.440
whenever I talk about the subject
00:32:42.660
as compared to my dear friend,
00:32:44.840
Shilligan-Reed,
00:32:45.480
who's a firearms aficionado.
00:32:47.180
Right.
00:32:47.600
But I am savvy enough
00:32:49.000
to know that
00:32:49.740
the low rate of fire weapons
00:32:52.400
that are at home
00:32:54.740
in ranches and farms
00:32:55.980
across rural parts
00:32:57.300
and some urban parts of Canada,
00:32:59.200
they are not used
00:33:00.440
to storm the beaches of Normandy.
00:33:02.180
Even in 1944,
00:33:04.140
the beaches of Normandy
00:33:05.260
were not stormed
00:33:06.240
with little
00:33:06.880
plink, plink, plink firearms.
00:33:09.520
They just weren't.
00:33:10.400
But I think
00:33:11.060
the same sort of
00:33:12.340
low-information voter
00:33:13.740
who would vote
00:33:14.320
for the elbows-up
00:33:15.360
propaganda of Mark Carney
00:33:17.040
would probably vote
00:33:17.700
for the seizing of,
00:33:19.140
I think they should just call them
00:33:20.100
scary guns
00:33:21.640
or mean-looking guns
00:33:23.640
because that actually
00:33:25.000
is what they're trying
00:33:25.820
to encompass.
00:33:26.420
Anything that looks scary,
00:33:27.500
why don't you say it?
00:33:29.180
Yeah, well,
00:33:29.720
that would be refreshing.
00:33:31.380
In fact,
00:33:32.040
you know,
00:33:32.340
we've had a bunch
00:33:33.180
of refreshing information lately.
00:33:34.860
You'll remember
00:33:35.460
the minister was honest
00:33:36.860
with Canadians
00:33:37.540
when he thought
00:33:38.660
nobody was listening
00:33:39.460
in that leaked audio
00:33:40.480
that we had put out
00:33:41.540
where he admitted
00:33:42.280
this program
00:33:42.820
is not going to do anything
00:33:44.200
for public safety.
00:33:45.660
Let me just play a clip of that.
00:33:46.560
Let me stop you there, Tracy.
00:33:47.520
I hate to stop you
00:33:48.340
before we get going.
00:33:49.020
I just want to refresh
00:33:50.060
the memory
00:33:50.820
of our viewers.
00:33:52.640
This is Gary Anandasangri
00:33:53.860
who is very busy
00:33:54.940
being an urban landlord.
00:33:56.560
I guess he doesn't have
00:33:57.160
a lot to do
00:33:58.040
on his real job.
00:33:59.880
And he was talking
00:34:00.560
to a tenant
00:34:01.100
and the tenant recorded it.
00:34:02.920
And here is Gary Anandasangri,
00:34:04.940
the public safety minister,
00:34:05.940
saying,
00:34:06.380
don't worry about it.
00:34:07.540
It's all BS.
00:34:08.800
And if his tenant
00:34:09.700
has a problem,
00:34:10.320
he can go talk to him
00:34:11.140
for special favors.
00:34:12.200
Here's just a quick recap
00:34:13.320
of that audio.
00:34:15.020
I'll tell you,
00:34:15.720
if I were to redo this
00:34:17.000
from the beginning,
00:34:17.640
like I'm picking up
00:34:18.840
where it was left off,
00:34:20.720
right?
00:34:21.260
But you have the power.
00:34:22.800
That's a rollback.
00:34:23.640
But this is the mandate
00:34:24.720
that was given
00:34:25.340
by Carney
00:34:26.180
to complete this.
00:34:29.380
Yeah,
00:34:29.580
because you guys
00:34:30.260
look like fools.
00:34:31.100
Roll in.
00:34:31.480
Like stepping back.
00:34:32.100
And not revisit this.
00:34:34.660
Sure.
00:34:35.180
That's my objective,
00:34:37.120
right?
00:34:37.380
Just to put an end
00:34:38.440
to this
00:34:38.820
and move on
00:34:40.580
with other
00:34:41.280
additional
00:34:42.560
criminal justice
00:34:44.160
tools,
00:34:45.660
including on bail,
00:34:47.260
including on
00:34:47.880
increasing penalties
00:34:49.800
for people
00:34:50.540
who have
00:34:51.400
illegal
00:34:52.940
and unlicensed firearms.
00:34:55.420
sort of read
00:34:56.660
the things
00:34:57.060
that we're already
00:34:58.440
going to be doing.
00:35:00.400
But this is not new.
00:35:02.480
This has been happening
00:35:03.420
over at any time.
00:35:04.820
I'll tell you,
00:35:05.780
going forward
00:35:07.860
will be a different approach.
00:35:09.400
This is completing
00:35:10.880
something that was started
00:35:12.480
five years ago
00:35:13.400
that,
00:35:14.100
you know,
00:35:14.860
but as the minister,
00:35:16.380
you can sit down
00:35:17.340
with Mark
00:35:18.540
and say,
00:35:19.480
listen,
00:35:20.900
there's something
00:35:21.280
we need to address
00:35:23.300
these four issues.
00:35:24.180
We've had
00:35:24.800
all these conversations.
00:35:26.420
Like I've had
00:35:26.880
for the last four months,
00:35:28.180
it's been like
00:35:29.180
constant,
00:35:30.100
constant discussions
00:35:31.780
on this
00:35:32.440
to see what's next,
00:35:33.660
right?
00:35:34.080
And the conclusion
00:35:34.900
is let's finish this
00:35:36.040
because we committed
00:35:37.200
to another campaign.
00:35:38.240
I mean,
00:35:38.480
the whole thing
00:35:39.020
is a trick.
00:35:39.620
I didn't mean
00:35:40.080
to interrupt you.
00:35:40.640
I just wanted
00:35:41.100
to refresh
00:35:41.620
the memory
00:35:42.020
of our viewers.
00:35:42.820
You were saying.
00:35:44.440
Yeah,
00:35:44.700
well,
00:35:45.080
and the minister
00:35:45.960
usually tells the truth
00:35:46.920
where he thinks
00:35:47.340
nobody's listening.
00:35:48.080
So it's interesting.
00:35:50.400
But yes,
00:35:51.460
just recently
00:35:52.280
the government
00:35:53.040
has come out,
00:35:54.020
updated this program.
00:35:55.100
So you'll remember
00:35:55.760
this program
00:35:57.160
opened up
00:35:57.860
for gun owners
00:35:58.600
to,
00:35:59.280
of course,
00:35:59.620
self-report themselves
00:36:00.680
to the government
00:36:02.340
because,
00:36:03.100
of course,
00:36:03.300
the government
00:36:03.620
has no idea
00:36:04.420
who's got what
00:36:05.100
or where it is.
00:36:06.540
So the government
00:36:07.300
has opened up
00:36:08.220
the confiscation program,
00:36:10.720
which to this point
00:36:11.620
amounts nothing more
00:36:13.640
than a website.
00:36:14.600
It's just a portal
00:36:15.580
to go and register
00:36:16.740
your firearms.
00:36:18.120
So in the first week,
00:36:19.860
they had about
00:36:20.500
22,000 or 23,000
00:36:22.720
firearms reported
00:36:24.020
to them.
00:36:24.800
And that may sound
00:36:25.400
like a big number.
00:36:26.280
I mean,
00:36:26.540
here we are a month later
00:36:27.600
and they're only
00:36:28.420
at 33,000.
00:36:29.720
But you have to keep
00:36:30.700
in mind that there
00:36:31.320
are over 2 million
00:36:32.280
affected firearms
00:36:33.420
in this program.
00:36:35.100
So uptake
00:36:35.680
is ridiculously low.
00:36:37.600
Canadians are not
00:36:38.320
going for this program.
00:36:40.020
And so in response,
00:36:41.920
the RCMP
00:36:42.520
has sent out
00:36:43.180
a reminder,
00:36:44.300
you know,
00:36:44.820
just in case
00:36:45.380
you forgot
00:36:45.840
or maybe you
00:36:46.960
didn't schedule
00:36:47.540
it in to your agenda.
00:36:50.280
But they sent out
00:36:51.280
a reminder email
00:36:52.220
kind of threatening
00:36:52.900
you that if you
00:36:53.620
don't get this done,
00:36:54.920
there will be
00:36:55.400
repercussions,
00:36:56.240
including possibly
00:36:57.680
losing your firearms
00:36:58.520
license.
00:36:59.040
Yeah.
00:36:59.640
You know,
00:37:00.180
it's sort of weird
00:37:01.100
for a paperwork crime,
00:37:03.300
which I think
00:37:03.740
this is sort of,
00:37:05.060
to turn
00:37:05.920
thousands,
00:37:08.300
hundreds of thousands,
00:37:09.080
maybe even millions
00:37:09.740
of law-abiding Canadians
00:37:10.860
into criminals
00:37:12.040
by virtue of them.
00:37:13.920
Like,
00:37:14.000
they're the same people
00:37:15.520
they ever were,
00:37:16.800
but they are actually
00:37:17.960
being criminalized.
00:37:18.860
And one of the things,
00:37:20.000
and I was just looking
00:37:21.060
through some notes
00:37:21.860
provided to me
00:37:22.760
by our producer,
00:37:24.200
like it's a deadline,
00:37:26.440
the end of March.
00:37:27.120
So March 30th,
00:37:29.160
you're fine.
00:37:30.260
April Fool's Day,
00:37:31.200
you're not.
00:37:32.420
Now some,
00:37:33.120
I was reading in,
00:37:34.320
I think it was a note
00:37:35.140
that you sent over,
00:37:36.280
a member of the
00:37:36.840
Canadian Armed Forces
00:37:37.700
who happens to own
00:37:38.620
firearms privately as well
00:37:40.180
is overseas,
00:37:42.160
if I'm not mistaken.
00:37:43.480
He's deployed
00:37:44.300
out of the country.
00:37:45.120
My guess is
00:37:46.020
he's probably over there
00:37:46.980
in Latvia,
00:37:48.060
you know,
00:37:48.700
pretty much on the front lines
00:37:49.720
with Russia.
00:37:51.060
But his firearms back home,
00:37:53.760
he hasn't,
00:37:54.580
he's not able
00:37:55.040
to deal with them.
00:37:56.080
So literally,
00:37:57.120
a guy who is trained
00:37:59.560
to fight and defend
00:38:00.680
the West
00:38:01.260
could be criminalized
00:38:03.480
by this showboating
00:38:06.020
Gary Ananda Sangery trick.
00:38:08.460
What do you know
00:38:08.920
about that case?
00:38:09.580
I think it was you
00:38:10.280
who received that tip.
00:38:12.140
Yeah, that's right.
00:38:12.680
So it was a member
00:38:13.260
who reached out to us.
00:38:14.200
He is a current serving
00:38:15.160
member of the military.
00:38:16.280
And actually,
00:38:17.120
since I posted that,
00:38:18.100
I've been bombarded
00:38:18.820
by a bunch of other
00:38:19.820
serving military members
00:38:21.320
who are on deployment.
00:38:22.660
And of course,
00:38:23.360
deployments are long.
00:38:24.360
They're six to eight months
00:38:25.400
in length.
00:38:26.400
And he said,
00:38:27.400
you know,
00:38:27.840
I recognize that
00:38:29.000
even if I fill out
00:38:30.420
the declaration,
00:38:31.040
I'm not likely to get paid
00:38:32.400
because most gun owners
00:38:34.120
will be ripped off.
00:38:35.140
95% of them will be.
00:38:37.460
But he said,
00:38:38.360
when I went to go
00:38:39.340
and access the portal,
00:38:40.760
you have to provide
00:38:41.460
a bunch of information
00:38:42.320
about the firearms,
00:38:43.360
like their serial numbers.
00:38:44.600
And of course,
00:38:45.880
he's sitting across the pond,
00:38:48.140
you know,
00:38:49.020
and his gun safe
00:38:49.640
is back here in Canada
00:38:50.720
and he can't access it.
00:38:52.480
So he called the Canadian,
00:38:54.160
called the assault style
00:38:55.260
firearms compensation program
00:38:56.700
and said,
00:38:57.480
hey, what do I do?
00:38:58.120
I don't have this information
00:38:59.420
with me.
00:39:00.260
I didn't write it down
00:39:01.580
and pack it in my kit
00:39:03.700
to go overseas
00:39:04.940
and train the Ukrainians.
00:39:07.740
So they said,
00:39:09.260
well,
00:39:09.480
can your wife
00:39:10.400
look at the firearms
00:39:11.500
and look up the serial numbers?
00:39:13.000
And he said,
00:39:13.340
well, of course not.
00:39:13.920
She doesn't have
00:39:14.460
a firearms license.
00:39:15.520
It would be illegal
00:39:16.520
to give her access
00:39:17.480
to those firearms.
00:39:18.100
Good one.
00:39:18.540
Good one.
00:39:19.180
Yes.
00:39:19.720
And they're trying
00:39:20.440
to catch him there, right?
00:39:22.140
The problem is,
00:39:23.260
is his deployment
00:39:24.100
goes out,
00:39:25.540
not just past the deadline
00:39:27.080
for filling out
00:39:28.060
the declaration
00:39:28.700
if you're going to try
00:39:29.660
and, you know,
00:39:30.460
maybe get paid.
00:39:31.800
It goes out past
00:39:33.080
the deadline
00:39:33.680
that protects you
00:39:34.840
until the end of October
00:39:35.960
for the amnesty.
00:39:37.540
So upon his re-entry
00:39:39.020
back into Canada
00:39:40.120
at the end
00:39:40.940
of his deployment,
00:39:41.900
he will then be
00:39:43.020
in illegal possession
00:39:44.140
of a prohibited firearm
00:39:45.460
that carries
00:39:46.500
a very lengthy
00:39:47.400
jail sentence
00:39:48.100
and he will be
00:39:49.420
subject to charges.
00:39:50.860
Wow.
00:39:51.280
And he's like,
00:39:52.000
there's literally
00:39:52.660
nothing I can do.
00:39:53.560
I'm sitting over here
00:39:54.620
deployed.
00:39:56.040
What do I do
00:39:56.660
about this?
00:39:57.200
And so I've written
00:39:58.760
to the minister,
00:40:00.000
I've written
00:40:00.420
to the Canadian
00:40:01.080
Firearms Program,
00:40:02.320
I've written
00:40:02.740
to Public Safety.
00:40:04.320
I don't know
00:40:04.780
if they're aware
00:40:05.220
of this problem.
00:40:06.000
Like I said,
00:40:06.520
I'm now being flooded
00:40:07.320
by other serving members
00:40:08.880
who have the same problem
00:40:10.580
and there is no solution
00:40:13.180
at this time.
00:40:13.960
So, you know,
00:40:15.060
we'll have to keep you
00:40:15.740
updated on this,
00:40:16.680
but this is actually
00:40:17.500
a very serious oversight
00:40:19.260
on their part
00:40:20.580
and it criminalizes
00:40:22.040
our serving members
00:40:23.300
who are out there
00:40:24.200
serving their country.
00:40:25.220
You know,
00:40:26.040
I'm old enough
00:40:26.460
to remember
00:40:26.860
the first gun registry
00:40:28.020
under Alan Rock,
00:40:29.060
just billions of dollars.
00:40:30.820
They didn't know
00:40:31.240
what they were doing.
00:40:31.900
They had no clue
00:40:32.740
about firearms themselves,
00:40:34.260
let alone,
00:40:35.000
these are the people
00:40:35.660
who spent billions
00:40:37.300
and overruns
00:40:38.120
on a payroll system
00:40:39.240
in Ottawa.
00:40:40.140
You know,
00:40:40.940
there used to be a joke
00:40:42.160
the liberals talked about,
00:40:43.200
deliberology.
00:40:44.400
They made up
00:40:44.940
the word deliberology,
00:40:46.120
which just basically meant
00:40:47.100
doing what you say
00:40:48.260
you would do
00:40:48.860
or doing what you're
00:40:49.520
supposed to do.
00:40:50.780
They don't do anything.
00:40:52.220
The liberal government
00:40:52.940
is very, very good
00:40:54.460
at putting out
00:40:55.020
statements and proposals
00:40:56.220
and plans.
00:40:57.780
Not so good
00:40:58.560
at actually following
00:40:59.360
through with them
00:40:59.900
and Gary Anandasangri
00:41:01.220
is the biggest joke
00:41:01.960
of all
00:41:02.400
when he's not being
00:41:03.600
a,
00:41:04.100
like he's got
00:41:05.700
this side hustle
00:41:07.000
because apparently
00:41:07.900
being a public safety
00:41:09.700
minister isn't enough
00:41:10.600
for him.
00:41:11.520
Let me say this.
00:41:13.880
I'm sure you have
00:41:15.040
access to outstanding
00:41:16.120
lawyers,
00:41:16.940
but if the gentleman
00:41:18.320
in question
00:41:19.060
returns to Canada
00:41:20.540
and faces charges
00:41:21.700
or if others
00:41:22.840
in his position
00:41:23.560
do so,
00:41:24.300
unless there's
00:41:25.180
a lawyer
00:41:25.600
who is an expert
00:41:26.540
in these matters
00:41:27.160
who is otherwise
00:41:28.660
provided for,
00:41:29.960
will you do me
00:41:30.740
a favor
00:41:31.140
and contact me
00:41:32.800
because I would
00:41:33.680
be so outraged
00:41:35.800
if a Canadian
00:41:37.060
Armed Forces
00:41:37.900
serving member
00:41:39.580
who is literally
00:41:41.320
risking his life,
00:41:42.140
like that is not
00:41:42.760
a risk-free
00:41:43.440
project he's on,
00:41:45.280
and if he comes
00:41:46.160
back to be criminalized,
00:41:47.340
we would,
00:41:47.940
I know our viewers,
00:41:48.860
would crowdfund
00:41:49.660
a lawyer.
00:41:50.240
If you don't need
00:41:50.880
our help,
00:41:51.360
don't worry about it
00:41:52.080
because I know
00:41:52.420
you guys have
00:41:52.820
access to lawyers too,
00:41:54.120
but the idea
00:41:55.020
that these good guys
00:41:56.200
could be treated
00:41:57.120
worse than the criminals
00:41:58.240
is intolerable to me.
00:42:00.640
Yeah, me too.
00:42:01.620
I mean, you know
00:42:02.200
I'm a military family.
00:42:03.860
My daughter was
00:42:04.440
on a deployment.
00:42:05.180
She's actually getting
00:42:05.820
set to go on another one,
00:42:07.460
and just the idea
00:42:08.480
that you're stuck
00:42:09.820
in this situation
00:42:10.660
because, I mean,
00:42:11.500
the government's only
00:42:12.140
put so much runway
00:42:12.940
for this program.
00:42:13.800
It's very short
00:42:14.460
in an effort
00:42:15.900
to hurry up
00:42:16.500
and get it done
00:42:17.180
that they haven't
00:42:18.280
considered these issues,
00:42:19.820
and yeah,
00:42:20.320
this is going to
00:42:20.900
negatively impact
00:42:22.260
a lot of people.
00:42:23.600
It's terrible.
00:42:24.800
I'll absolutely
00:42:25.680
connect you
00:42:26.700
if he has a problem
00:42:27.480
when he gets back.
00:42:28.380
Yeah, I mean,
00:42:28.940
obviously,
00:42:29.500
if he's got things
00:42:30.400
in hand,
00:42:30.840
that's good to know.
00:42:31.900
You know,
00:42:32.480
they really don't know
00:42:35.120
what they're doing,
00:42:35.780
the government,
00:42:36.540
and I don't think
00:42:37.680
that they're open
00:42:38.460
to consulting
00:42:39.360
because they regard
00:42:40.380
lawful firearms owners
00:42:41.980
as the bad guys.
00:42:43.060
Like, they would
00:42:43.960
detest you
00:42:45.080
more than an actual
00:42:46.920
criminal.
00:42:47.580
They just would.
00:42:48.280
Because they regard
00:42:49.180
you as an ideological
00:42:50.260
enemy.
00:42:51.320
So they would never
00:42:52.300
take advice from you
00:42:53.500
because it's got
00:42:56.380
to be fake.
00:42:57.000
It's got to be malicious.
00:42:57.760
Like, they have
00:42:58.620
such an enemy's mindset,
00:43:00.200
and their friends
00:43:01.500
are as clueless
00:43:02.300
as they are.
00:43:03.000
Anyhow,
00:43:03.320
it's just a crazy story.
00:43:05.600
And hopefully,
00:43:06.660
the government
00:43:07.040
won't do anything stupid,
00:43:08.400
but that's like,
00:43:09.220
that's a vain hope.
00:43:11.820
You know?
00:43:12.240
Yeah.
00:43:12.460
Well, I don't have
00:43:14.580
a lot of faith
00:43:15.140
in this minister
00:43:15.820
or this government.
00:43:17.460
And, you know,
00:43:18.580
their track record
00:43:19.320
on not just how
00:43:20.340
they treat gun owners,
00:43:21.180
but how they treat
00:43:21.780
military members
00:43:22.820
speaks for itself.
00:43:24.440
You know,
00:43:25.280
there's a U.S.
00:43:26.180
senator from Louisiana.
00:43:27.520
His name is
00:43:28.040
John Kennedy,
00:43:29.040
no relation
00:43:29.580
to the late president.
00:43:30.980
And he's got
00:43:31.460
all these one-liners.
00:43:32.500
And I just,
00:43:33.100
when I think
00:43:33.500
of Gary Hernandez-Angry,
00:43:34.860
I think of this one line
00:43:35.880
from Senator Kennedy
00:43:37.440
who said,
00:43:38.780
you're not
00:43:39.640
the dumbest person
00:43:40.620
in the world,
00:43:41.380
but you better hope
00:43:42.280
the dumbest person
00:43:43.040
in the world
00:43:43.380
doesn't die.
00:43:44.600
Yeah.
00:43:45.320
I don't know
00:43:46.060
if you heard that one.
00:43:47.240
And when I think
00:43:47.900
of Gary Hernandez-Angry,
00:43:49.620
I mean,
00:43:50.000
he may not be the dumbest,
00:43:51.380
but Lord Thunder,
00:43:52.280
and he is close.
00:43:53.420
Oh, brother.
00:43:54.480
I shouldn't be laughing.
00:43:55.600
There's nothing funny
00:43:56.640
about it,
00:43:57.500
even the fact
00:43:58.200
that he's our
00:43:58.760
public safety minister,
00:43:59.640
given that he was
00:44:00.260
a lawyer for a
00:44:02.160
proscribed terrorist group.
00:44:03.540
It's just shocking.
00:44:04.400
Great to catch up
00:44:04.980
with you, Tracy.
00:44:05.460
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks.
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Thanks a lot, Ezra.
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All right.
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We'll see you soon.
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Tracy Wilson
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and the Canadian Coalition
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for Firearms Rights.
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Stay with us.
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Your letters to me next.
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Hey, welcome back.
00:44:23.940
Here's your letters to me.
00:44:25.660
On my interview
00:44:27.120
with Michelle Rempel-Garner,
00:44:28.860
Gums55 says,
00:44:30.160
Michelle Rempel
00:44:30.620
is definitely
00:44:31.060
on the right track,
00:44:32.020
but like so many issues,
00:44:33.040
nothing ever gets done.
00:44:34.660
At least Daniel Smith
00:44:35.460
gets things done.
00:44:36.360
Shows our federal
00:44:37.680
political system
00:44:38.500
is useless,
00:44:39.100
open for liberal corruption.
00:44:40.920
Yeah, now in fairness,
00:44:42.300
Rempel-Garner
00:44:42.760
is in the opposition
00:44:44.840
and the liberals
00:44:46.960
have an almost
00:44:48.000
majority government
00:44:48.920
and if they
00:44:49.440
were missing it anyways,
00:44:50.960
they have the NDP
00:44:52.140
and the block
00:44:52.660
to give them a majority
00:44:53.500
on things like immigration.
00:44:55.020
So,
00:44:55.580
that's why someone
00:44:57.140
like Daniel Smith
00:44:57.760
can do things
00:44:58.560
because she is the premier
00:44:59.800
with the majority government.
00:45:01.060
But remember,
00:45:01.620
immigration is a federal matter.
00:45:03.080
So,
00:45:03.800
Danielle Smith herself
00:45:04.880
cannot stop
00:45:06.240
the numbers of migrants,
00:45:07.640
but she can do
00:45:08.480
some of the things
00:45:09.060
she's looking to serve
00:45:10.320
with the population
00:45:11.020
on through referendums,
00:45:11.920
such as stripping
00:45:13.440
newcomers of
00:45:15.100
free healthcare,
00:45:16.200
free social services,
00:45:17.380
free schooling
00:45:17.980
until they meet
00:45:19.300
certain conditions.
00:45:20.020
So,
00:45:20.700
she is taking
00:45:21.400
action steps,
00:45:22.420
but don't be too hard
00:45:23.800
on Rempel-Garner
00:45:24.480
for not being able to act
00:45:25.880
because she's in the opposition.
00:45:28.460
Christian Robert DeMassi
00:45:29.960
says,
00:45:30.720
total immigration moratorium,
00:45:32.460
negative migration.
00:45:33.540
We need to protect
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our nation,
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culture,
00:45:35.040
and identity.
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Be like Japan.
00:45:37.120
You know,
00:45:37.520
I'm so excited
00:45:38.420
to see Japan.
00:45:39.600
I had the opportunity
00:45:41.320
to visit that country
00:45:42.240
a couple years ago.
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It is so wonderful.
00:45:44.380
I have to say,
00:45:45.320
I mean,
00:45:45.580
it's an alien culture.
00:45:47.060
It's not like comfy
00:45:48.280
like going to America
00:45:49.200
or even the UK.
00:45:50.220
It's very different.
00:45:51.360
Obviously,
00:45:51.740
the language is very different,
00:45:53.140
but I really felt like
00:45:54.020
I was in the presence
00:45:54.720
of a superior civilization.
00:45:56.680
It was so civilized.
00:45:57.980
It was so happy
00:45:59.300
and safe
00:46:00.160
and peaceful
00:46:01.360
and polite
00:46:02.400
and self-controlled.
00:46:05.100
And I could tell you
00:46:06.280
a hundred things
00:46:06.880
I loved about it,
00:46:07.800
but I could see
00:46:09.460
even the early signs
00:46:11.860
of immigration
00:46:12.620
corroding that.
00:46:13.600
And one of the great things
00:46:14.220
about Japan
00:46:14.740
is their high-trust society,
00:46:16.720
and that comes
00:46:17.440
from their homogeneity.
00:46:20.540
They don't have riots
00:46:21.920
in Japan.
00:46:23.240
They don't have,
00:46:24.720
I mean,
00:46:25.000
I'm not saying
00:46:25.460
it's a zero-theft country,
00:46:26.800
but it's pretty close to it.
00:46:28.380
And I see that recently
00:46:30.140
Japan has taken
00:46:31.260
a hard line
00:46:32.120
against immigration,
00:46:33.100
and that's one
00:46:33.800
of the policies
00:46:34.420
that caused
00:46:35.720
their new leader
00:46:36.420
to get a super-majority
00:46:37.880
government.
00:46:38.360
So I am very excited
00:46:39.760
about what Japan's doing.
00:46:41.980
Glenn Parr says,
00:46:42.840
all part of the insane
00:46:43.940
Mark Wiseman
00:46:45.040
sensory initiative.
00:46:46.600
You're so right,
00:46:47.280
that crazy sensory initiative
00:46:48.860
to bring a hundred million
00:46:50.260
people to Canada.
00:46:51.440
Of course,
00:46:51.900
they're coming
00:46:52.200
from the third world.
00:46:53.060
I mean,
00:46:53.220
you could fill Canada up
00:46:54.440
ten times over
00:46:55.740
with people
00:46:56.480
from Pakistan
00:46:57.240
and Indonesia
00:46:58.120
and Bangladesh.
00:46:59.740
It's not Canada anymore.
00:47:01.280
And by the way,
00:47:02.200
they're not going to live
00:47:02.860
in the vast expanse
00:47:03.860
of Canada,
00:47:04.480
which is Tundra.
00:47:05.760
They're all going
00:47:06.460
to Vancouver,
00:47:07.120
Montreal,
00:47:07.860
Calgary,
00:47:08.560
and Toronto.
00:47:10.060
I mean,
00:47:10.300
it would be
00:47:11.020
an unlivable city,
00:47:12.260
except for certain,
00:47:13.280
you know,
00:47:14.080
gated community enclaves.
00:47:15.480
And now the head
00:47:16.180
of the sensory initiative,
00:47:18.200
if I'm not mistaken,
00:47:18.940
he's our new ambassador
00:47:19.860
to the United States.
00:47:20.780
It's just madness.
00:47:21.440
Last letter from
00:47:23.040
Andrew McPherson,
00:47:24.580
CICE,
00:47:25.660
the Canadian ICE
00:47:26.740
is needed.
00:47:28.720
You're so right.
00:47:30.000
I mean,
00:47:30.360
I have put it to
00:47:31.220
Michelle Remble-Garner
00:47:32.860
a few times now,
00:47:34.280
would you be into
00:47:35.780
mass deporting
00:47:36.920
these overstayers?
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And she says,
00:47:39.100
yes.
00:47:39.980
Okay,
00:47:40.360
well,
00:47:40.580
who's going to
00:47:41.040
physically do that?
00:47:41.980
You can cut people off
00:47:43.580
or try to
00:47:44.420
from their benefits
00:47:45.700
and that might cause
00:47:46.840
some to self-deport.
00:47:48.200
But let's get real.
00:47:49.120
You're going to have to
00:47:49.920
take a firm hand
00:47:51.740
and get people
00:47:52.740
out of this country.
00:47:53.580
I mean,
00:47:53.760
you're going to need
00:47:54.400
10 flights a day
00:47:56.440
for a year.
00:47:58.740
Does the Conservative Party,
00:48:00.000
do Canadians
00:48:00.540
have the stomach for that?
00:48:02.080
Maybe one day
00:48:02.600
we'll find out.
00:48:04.120
That's our show
00:48:04.740
for the day.
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Until tomorrow,
00:48:06.640
on behalf of all of us
00:48:07.480
here at Rebel World
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Headquarters
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to you at home,
00:48:09.780
good night
00:48:10.140
and keep fighting
00:48:11.380
for freedom.
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Thank you.
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