Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Gang violence erupts in Toronto — but the CBC targets an elderly gun collector instead

00:00:00.040 Hello, my friends. Crazy story out of small Dauphin, Manitoba, 8,000 person town.

00:00:06.540 And my friend Inky Mark, I call him my friend. I haven't talked to him in 20 years.

00:00:10.040 He was an MP when I worked for Preston Manning in the Reform Party too.

00:00:13.600 He's 78 now and he has a gun collection that was seized by the RCMP.

00:00:20.060 Well, what did Inky Mark do?

00:00:22.300 Did he go on a gangland style rampage in his 70s?

00:00:26.540 i'll tell you the whole story and i'll show you photos including of his canon that he owns

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00:00:53.060 tonight gang violence in toronto hits a new high so the liberals and the media come up with a

00:01:03.280 distraction it's july 15th and this is the s for levant show

00:01:07.060 shame on you you censorious bug

00:01:13.300 last weekend there were 12 shootings in toronto toronto the good it used to be called seriously

00:01:29.120 that's what they used to say that's what its nickname was here's a minute of what toronto

00:01:34.460 the good looked like in 1958 toronto the capital of ontario is home to more than a million people

00:01:42.540 Until recent times, Toronto was thought of as a rather fussy old lady among cities, standing

00:01:58.060 foursquare for business, respectability, and no nonsense. The business part of it still

00:02:04.400 holds true. It's vying with Montreal for the lead as Canada's financial center. Its industrial

00:02:10.660 and commercial expansion has been enormous yeah that's long gone the past is a different country

00:02:26.100 you're in trudeau's canada carney is continuing down the same path don't believe what his

00:02:31.660 defenders say so yeah here's what toronto is like these days this is from the salsa festival

00:02:38.140 over the weekend. Just mayhem, panic, but in one of the videos,

00:03:07.980 someone was bizarrely expressing their support for the shooter they must have at the time assumed

00:03:15.700 he was a terrorist and were cheering him on

00:03:18.700 it's beautiful this year it's just like a movie you watch in the tv but it's an active shooting

00:03:32.640 see right here Toronto police good for them good for them controlling seizing the uh yeah Toronto

00:03:42.120 the good that's not really Toronto these days but people were mad at the police and at the city

00:03:47.880 normally they just stupefyingly accept everything um all the mayor Olivia Chow seems to do these

00:03:54.760 days is to go to different street festivals and drink and dance I actually think she might have 1.00

00:03:59.640 been drunk when all hell broke loose at the salsa fest though her speech is often slurred when she's 1.00

00:04:05.100 sober so i shouldn't jump to conclusions she's awful she's presiding over the decline of a once 0.54

00:04:11.240 great city it's turning into a failed state by any measure you can't put all the blame on the mayor

00:04:17.240 but she deserves a lot of it here's the police though their advice to citizens this is a year

00:04:22.500 or two ago now already their advice is to cooperate with criminals to prevent them from doing even

00:04:28.380 worse things to you the possibility of being attacked in your home leave your fobs at your

00:04:33.600 front door you can enter because they're breaking into your home to steal your car they don't want

00:04:37.660 anything else that they're arresting have guns on them and they're not toy guns they're real guns

00:04:42.320 they're loaded yeah so toronto is bad and getting worse and people here were upset two people were

00:04:50.560 murdered others were injured a local city counselor who has been calling for a stronger

00:04:55.360 police response to crime for years, Mike Cole, he just let her rip.

00:04:59.580 As the local councillor myself, the deputy mayor, I live here, Councillor Matlow, it's

00:05:09.660 Deputy Mayor Mike Cole and Councillor Matlow. We just want to say how disgusting this is,

00:05:17.380 this gangster violence in a peaceful family festival. We had this for 15 years, no problems,

00:05:23.700 and to shoot up a festival indiscriminately these thugs must be caught no bail put them away for 20

00:05:33.420 years this threatens all of our public events this has got to stop now he's nominally a liberal but

00:05:40.860 even he can see what's happening to his city i've interviewed him before actually he's the one who

00:05:46.340 said that the pro-hamas protesters in toronto are foreign directed and foreign funded and so canada

00:05:52.840 needs to respond with more than just the Toronto Police Service. It needs help from the RCMP and

00:05:57.760 CSIS. I sort of like that guy. Anyways, there were 12 shootings across the greater Toronto area.

00:06:04.680 It was hard to keep track of all of them. I kept reading about one, assuming it was the last one.

00:06:09.420 No, there were 12 of them. Now, you might say, how is this possible? Shootings? Canada banned guns.

00:06:17.560 Why, yes, Canada did, but, you know, the law says you can't walk around with a machine gun or even a pistol in most cases.

00:06:24.700 Very rare exceptions to that.

00:06:26.260 You can lawfully own some rifles and some shotguns, long arms as they're called.

00:06:32.340 But gangs don't really use those.

00:06:34.100 They're not easy to hide and transport.

00:06:37.380 Well, it turns out, and I know you're going to find this hard to believe,

00:06:40.940 that people who are willing to murder each other, people who are willing to join illegal criminal gangs,

00:06:45.400 are also willing to break paperwork laws that say they can't have illegal guns.

00:06:50.460 I mean, it would be odd to have a murderer willing to commit the gravest of crimes

00:06:55.320 who would be stopped because Mark Carney has some paperwork that says they can't have a pistol.

00:07:00.820 But the news was bad, and it wasn't guns that were being blamed.

00:07:05.160 It was the gunmen.

00:07:06.940 It was the violence during a street festival.

00:07:09.780 Let's be honest.

00:07:10.360 It was because of the cell phone footage that people saw what was really going on.

00:07:14.820 they don't normally. So what to do? How to deal with this? Well, easy. Put yourself in the mind

00:07:22.300 of the prime minister's office. The main thing is to switch the subject. People want to talk about

00:07:27.980 guns? Fine. Change the channel. Move the story away from the failed state of Toronto and the

00:07:32.940 gangland shootings to, oh, I don't know, Dauphin, Manitoba, population 8,000 people, and a 78-year-old

00:07:40.960 Chinese-Canadian gun collector named Inky Mark. What a great name that is, Inky Mark. You know,

00:07:47.980 I worked briefly with Inky Mark when I was in my 20s working on Parliament Hill, and he was an MP

00:07:55.140 for Preston Manning. I got to know Inky a little bit, but look, the order went out, changed the

00:08:01.180 subject. So the RCMP did with the CBC helping them out. Here's the story. I broke the law,

00:08:09.500 Former Manitoba MP Inkey Mark says, after police seize over 400 firearms, Mark, 78, denies trafficking firearms but admits to illegally transferring three guns.

00:08:22.020 I'll read a bit of it to you.

00:08:24.280 A former federal politician denies trafficking any firearms but acknowledges he illegally transferred three guns after police seized hundreds of weapons from his western Manitoba home last week.

00:08:36.280 Inky Mark, 78, was charged with a dozen weapons-related offenses

00:08:40.020 after police took 439 guns from his home near the city of Dauphin

00:08:44.100 during a July 7th search, RCMP said Monday.

00:08:48.720 The item seized included an antique cannon and ammunition, according to police.

00:08:55.520 There's a picture of that cannon.

00:08:57.840 Now, 439 guns is a lot of guns.

00:09:01.740 Inky has always been candid about being a gun collector.

00:09:05.740 i didn't know about the cannon i don't think a cannon is something you'd probably use in a crime

00:09:11.340 hard to move it around hard to see a cannon being used at the salsa festival gangland

00:09:17.900 shootings people would probably spot it and the four-man crew it takes to normally operate it

00:09:23.740 yeah that's what cannons look like now i'll read some more from the story

00:09:33.880 quote speaking with cbc outside his home in dauphin on tuesday mark said he's been legally

00:09:39.280 collecting firearms since the early 70s but admitted some of those weapons are now illegal

00:09:44.320 to own due to gun law changes over the years what i can tell you is that what they took was 50 plus

00:09:51.200 years of collection, Mark said. I'm a collector. I've been a registered collector since day one.

00:09:58.540 It was sort of like raiding the war museum and seizing the guns there. It's a legitimate

00:10:03.120 collector. RCMP said Monday it may take several weeks for investigators to determine how many of

00:10:09.160 the firearms were illegally possessed. That's the thing is he got the guns legally, but then they

00:10:15.000 changed the paperwork laws over the years. If a guy's got 400 plus guns that he's been collecting

00:10:20.400 for 50 years it wouldn't surprise me at all if the paperwork wasn't perfect on all of them

00:10:25.920 given that the government has chosen to just ta-da wave a wand and turn legal guns illegal over the

00:10:32.160 years that's what they seem to be charging him with paperwork crimes because they're good at that

00:10:39.180 the police the rcmp are really good at going after collectors and finding something i mean show me

00:10:45.760 the man, I'll find you the crime. You show me 439 guns and a cannon in someone's home, they'll find

00:10:50.960 something on them. The police are good at that. They're not so good at stopping gangs from shooting

00:10:57.500 up the Salsa Fest or 11 other shootings in Toronto. Not so good at going after gangs. Pretty good at

00:11:04.660 going to the house of a 78-year-old man, a gun collector who hasn't actually done anything. But

00:11:10.520 like i say they needed to change the subject out there i'll read some more mark who was born in

00:11:17.040 china does not have a previous criminal record police said monday the former mp says he spent

00:11:23.440 two days in jail last week which he called quite the traumatic experience yeah uh hey why did they

00:11:30.420 put him in jay's a grandpa now i assume i don't know his family situation but he's 78 why did

00:11:37.600 they put a 78 year old collector in jail for two days was he a flight risk was he gonna get on a

00:11:45.140 private jet and fly to cuba or something what was this 78 year old man gonna run away or hide from

00:11:53.180 the courts was he was he a menace to society you know that cannon and all was he gonna storm the

00:11:58.660 bastille or something you know the cbc gave this fake story almost as much space as they gave the

00:12:04.560 toronto gangland murders it went on and on this part caught my eye google maps shows a sign that

00:12:13.280 says trudeau confiscating all your guns displayed near mark's property in may 2024 that sign and

00:12:20.700 several others seen in the google maps image were not seen at the property on tuesday okay so he or

00:12:27.380 someone near him used to have a sign criticizing justin trudeau for confiscating guns which um

00:12:33.880 was obviously totally wrong it was mark carney who confiscated his guns wasn't it the cbc knows

00:12:42.040 an enemy when they see one though that's the important stuff here there was a political sign

00:12:46.900 they didn't like take his guns let's stop talking about those gang lands in toronto so he'll probably

00:12:52.480 lose some of his guns they might take all of them wouldn't surprise me they'll probably put him on

00:12:57.260 trial frankly it'll last for the rest of his life given the slow pace of the law now normally a 0.89

00:13:02.560 Chinese-Canadian would have some sort of politically correct veneer on him. He was born in China.

00:13:08.040 He's a visible minority. But having guns and disliking the CBC, those are bad thoughts for

00:13:14.840 a minority. They must be stamped out. I am so glad that the grave threat of 78-year-old Inky Mark 0.54

00:13:23.840 and his old-timey cannon are finally being taken head-on by the RCMP and their friends at the CBC. 0.99

00:13:32.560 It's a lot easier than, I don't know, going after that thousand-person Bishnoi gang from 1.00

00:13:38.040 India that's rampaging across Canada. 1.00

00:13:40.760 But mainly, look, the CBC is earning their $1.5 billion from the government. 0.88

00:13:47.160 Their job is to distract from gang crime, and they know just how to do it.

00:13:53.640 Stay with us for more.

00:14:02.560 Oh, hi, everybody. You know, I've been in Toronto a fair bit lately, but you know, it is my style

00:14:08.480 to fly to the news wherever I find it. Recently, I was in Regina, Saskatchewan to cover the

00:14:14.260 loudspeakers on a mosque there. You might recall, I went out to Nova Scotia to see the gravel yard 0.93

00:14:20.960 that the Canadian government is calling their rocket ship Starbase. Sometimes I even go overseas,

00:14:27.000 not to the United Kingdom anymore. I've been banned, but to Ireland, for example.

00:14:31.640 when you rack up that many miles on Air Canada, you get something called e-upgrades. I don't mean

00:14:39.620 to bore you, but it's another way of them rewarding loyal customers. So every once in a while,

00:14:44.900 I get to fly in the front of the plane, which actually makes a real difference

00:14:48.260 on those overnight flights. I love it. And one of the best parts, and you can see I overindulge,

00:14:54.460 and I know it sounds crazy to say airplane food could be good, but when you're upgraded on Air

00:15:00.340 Canada, you get some pretty good food, but obviously the cost of the food, the price of

00:15:07.120 the food, I don't know. Maybe it costs them $50 for first-class food. And if you're a drinker,

00:15:13.400 which luckily I'm not, you know, maybe you drink another 20 bucks worth of booze.

00:15:18.480 I am telling you that I do not know how it is mathematically possible to have a single meal

00:15:27.920 on an aircraft that costs $2,850.

00:15:33.680 Not for the flight.

00:15:34.880 Sorry, don't get me wrong.

00:15:36.180 I'm not talking about the live flatbed.

00:15:38.160 I'm not talking about the excellent service.

00:15:40.240 I'm talking about the food they put in front of you.

00:15:43.320 It's not made from scratch on the airplane.

00:15:45.860 You probably know this.

00:15:46.920 These airplanes are catered.

00:15:48.140 They stick the stuff in the fridge

00:15:49.860 and then heat it up before they serve it.

00:15:51.540 So it is, it is not,

00:15:53.040 there's not a chef there making it.

00:15:55.120 This is not, I mean, it's good,

00:15:56.540 but it's not gourmet.

00:15:57.260 how on earth can you make a meal cost two thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars and i ask this

00:16:05.800 because if there's one man in the country who can do it it's our prime minister mark carney in fact

00:16:10.880 he did it and he did it again and he did it again and he did it again in fact in a single trip

00:16:16.240 they spent 160 000 on food i don't fly private boy what a luxury that would be

00:16:25.920 but I understand that to fly in a private jet costs around 10 to $20,000 per hour. And that

00:16:33.760 depends on how big the jet is. So if you're spending $160,000 just on airplane food,

00:16:42.780 I think you're doing it wrong because you could rent an entire private jet for an eight hour

00:16:51.600 flight. You could fly from Ottawa to London, England in a private jet with all your friends

00:16:58.660 for the amount of money they spent on food alone. How did I find this out? You know how I found this

00:17:05.480 out. Our friends at the Canadian taxpayers dug it up. The headline on their latest story is Carney

00:17:10.560 drops $160,000 on airplane food during one trip, Franco Teresano. I like to eat as anyone can see

00:17:22.660 just by putting eyes on me. I do not know how you even do it to eat $2,850 in one sitting.

00:17:31.320 I don't know how we're eating gold plated caviar. Yeah. I mean, look, it's, it's, it's getting crazy,

00:17:37.500 Right. It's getting real crazy. I'm really getting sick and tired of actually having to report on all these stories. Right. So Carney's latest debacle, Carney and Entourage spent almost 160 grand during one week long international trip.

00:17:53.180 Okay. Number one, how do you rack up a huge taxpayer bill? Well, you bring a 55 person entourage. Okay. So $160,000 on airplane food for one international trip, you divide it by about 56 people. And that's how you get a cost of about $2,800 per passenger spent on airplane food alone. Okay.

00:18:15.080 And it's like time and time again, this isn't the first time that Carnia spent an outrageous amount on airplane food, right? You had a trip to Brussels. It was about 50,000 bucks on airplane food. Then you had a trip to London. That was about 50,000 bucks on airplane food. You even had a trip to Italy where Carnia and his entourage dropped 93,000 bucks on airplane food.

00:18:36.020 And here's the craziest part about that whole trip, okay, is that Cardi even spent twice as much as Trudeau on airplane food during a trip to Italy, right?

00:18:45.180 Cardi dropped $93,000 a year before that.

00:18:48.060 Trudeau dropped $43,000.

00:18:50.080 So this is getting completely out of hand.

00:18:53.260 The latest story from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Cardi and his entourage dropping $160,000 on one week-long international trip.

00:19:03.300 And folks, you got the bill.

00:19:06.020 yeah you know i'm glad you corrected me it was it was a the entire trip just not one flight

00:19:10.860 but i see in your press release they had 14 flights in his first year as pm and he spent a

00:19:18.200 million bucks a million just on the food you know i've been thinking about because how do you and

00:19:22.440 i just look at the rest of your story here because you go into details about the but the meals you

00:19:28.120 know um at breakfast passengers could choose between a sundry tomato and mozzarella omelet

00:19:33.160 or french toast with cinnamon and berries i'm getting hungry just reading this but the thing

00:19:37.440 is you know i just thought on air canada again i have a fair bit of experience flying around

00:19:41.980 you can order a business class meal from the back of the plane and they charge you about 20 bucks

00:19:48.380 so if air canada can make you an omelet for 20 bucks which is what they sell it for like you

00:19:55.020 can be in economy class and buy the first or the business class breakfast so how can air canada

00:20:01.540 give you an omelet and um you know it comes with like a bun and some coffee and a turkey sausage

00:20:09.460 or whatever how can air canada sell that for 20 bucks but how can how come it's 10 or 100 times

00:20:16.700 more on a private jet like even if it's twice as fancy and i don't know how you make an omelet

00:20:21.660 that much fancier how do you get from 20 bucks which is what air canada charges

00:20:26.080 to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

00:20:28.720 How do you, like how?

00:20:30.600 Ezra, great question.

00:20:32.500 Honestly, the way they're racking up this bill,

00:20:34.740 I've been trying to ask around,

00:20:36.640 try to figure out how this is even possible.

00:20:38.900 And, you know, the best thing that I can come up with

00:20:40.860 from what I've heard is

00:20:41.660 just because they can get away with it, right?

00:20:43.860 They can spend other people's money on,

00:20:45.740 you know, living the high life quite literally.

00:20:48.460 I mean, look, another issue here

00:20:50.440 is that they can choose between

00:20:51.760 multi-course gourmet meals, right?

00:20:54.480 We detailed some of it.

00:20:55.420 you mentioned the omelets there's also uh french toast with cinnamon and berries you had chilean

00:21:01.340 sea bass you had beef tenderloin with pepper sauce chicken supreme folks again this is just

00:21:06.720 airplane meals and also hey don't forget about the desserts to wash down all your tax dollars

00:21:11.980 right they had parfait with two types of chocolate mousse ezra my favorite type of dessert here i saw

00:21:17.400 on their menus was uh something called death by chocolate i mean uh you know like it's it's

00:21:23.900 honestly getting crazy and you know sometimes i hear pushback from the other side because this

00:21:28.360 isn't the first time we broke a story like this and i remember in question period you had some

00:21:32.800 liberal ministers trying to defend carney as if there's a way to defend this type of airplane

00:21:37.340 food spending and these liberal ministers were saying well hey uh you know carney has to fly

00:21:42.200 internationally right he's the prime minister yada yada yada and i'm over here like are you

00:21:46.760 kidding me you're telling me that a prime minister can't fly abroad without billing

00:21:51.800 taxpayers six figures for airplane food like get real i just don't get it i mean airplane food is

00:21:58.500 a pretty standardized business i mean they're very busy airports that specialize in it i mean

00:22:05.200 there's special catering companies and they'll make for the same airplane like there's emirates

00:22:12.180 it's a very fancy airline that flies to canada now they have economy you know premium economy

00:22:18.640 business and first class and so it's not oh my god this is the first time we've ever had to cook

00:22:24.240 for a vip they do all the time and they do it on an economic basis i mean even if your super fancy

00:22:31.720 meal cost a hundred bucks which i again i just have never seen that how how do you get it would

00:22:39.720 be like going into a restaurant and ordering every single thing on the menu like just saying to the

00:22:45.260 waiter i want everything on the menu you couldn't spend two thousand eight hundred fifty dollars

00:22:50.280 if you if you went to i mean i suppose if you went to a super fancy steakhouse

00:22:54.720 you that would be twenty eight hundred fifty for the entire menu but i i just don't know how this

00:23:01.400 happens because i know that they spend as much on food as a private jet itself costs to rent i don't

00:23:07.060 get it i'm confused by it do they say anything or do you guys contact them and ask for an

00:23:12.360 explanation or are they just completely tight-lipped do they even talk to you guys

00:23:16.480 well they they have to comply by the access to information laws right so that's how we're getting

00:23:22.480 this type of information and let me just say Ezra like um other other officials have proven that

00:23:28.720 you don't have to fly internationally on a government airplane and spend this amount of

00:23:33.220 money right so even if they come back and be like oh Carney's the prime minister yada yada yada no

00:23:37.920 but other officials in government have proven that you can fly internationally for far less

00:23:42.280 money right there's a former uh defense minister billed taxpayers 2300 bucks only 2300 bucks

00:23:49.200 on airplane food during a 12-day trip internationally you actually have the chief

00:23:53.540 of defense staff okay went to washington dc with other members of the canadian armed forces

00:23:58.540 and they billed taxpayers zero dollars for airplane you don't even need i mean really

00:24:04.160 you don't even have time to eat on a plane from ottawa to dc hey i got a question for you

00:24:08.740 do you how often do you get invited to testify before a parliamentary committee does that happen

00:24:15.920 yeah oh yeah so it happens uh usually a couple times each parliamentary sitting

00:24:21.040 and what kind of subjects do they talk to you about well the last one we were there for the

00:24:26.680 industrial carbon tax right so just uh this was uh about a month ago i think or a couple months

00:24:32.100 ago now actually it's probably end of march and i was there hammering away at the industrial carbon

00:24:36.320 tax you know this just feels like the opposite of a of a public servant mindset this feels like a

00:24:45.880 someone who's pretending to be like a bit of royalty or something it just feels like anyone

00:24:51.940 who would agree to ordering 2850 bucks per passenger in food you're not thinking like

00:25:00.560 a trustee of the public finance you're not thinking like you work for anyone you have an

00:25:06.140 entitlement and how mark carney gets that sense of entitlement just a year after his election is so

00:25:12.400 strange and dark and like he it took justin trudeau 10 full years to go full corruption

00:25:20.860 i don't know how carney's dropping this this kind of money 159 800 on airplane food during a single

00:25:28.120 trip unreal i don't know i mean i mean i can understand why they don't fly commercial i get

00:25:37.340 it there's security concerns there's scheduling concerns but this he's not the only person flying

00:25:44.460 in a private jet but it sure feels like he's the only one billing three grand a pop for meals

00:25:49.560 last word to you franco well i just hate the term public servant yeah right i hate it's a lie

00:25:54.600 that's what i'm saying it's a lie oh it's like oh come on seriously with everything that we've

00:25:59.420 uncovered like really like who is serving who here we quite literally work to pay their salary

00:26:04.760 their expenses their type of perks where they're living the highlight on our dime like it's actually

00:26:09.660 it makes me sick to my stomach when i hear stuff like that and then you see stories of you know

00:26:14.240 six figures on airplane food bonuses for failure all the other different type of perks and you know

00:26:19.940 crazy spending that's happening in ottawa all the time yeah i just don't know i mean i've seen fancy

00:26:25.080 food on an airplane but it's just it would be at 100 bucks at most this is this is i don't know

00:26:31.620 this feels negligent franco thanks for shining a spotlight on this i know this is not the first

00:26:35.840 time we've talked about this subject but these stats are just so astonishing and i'm just trying

00:26:40.540 in my mind to figure out how it adds up and it just doesn't thanks for taking the time my friend

00:26:45.560 Hey, thank you, Ezra.

00:26:46.520 There he is, Franco Terrizano, the big boss

00:26:48.220 of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:26:50.740 You know, I understand why a prime minister

00:26:53.080 needs to fly private.

00:26:54.420 I get it.

00:26:55.080 And I'm not even against that.

00:26:56.640 But how you come up with these inflated costs,

00:26:59.640 there's no way.

00:27:01.220 There's no way that this is legitimate.

00:27:05.020 I just don't believe it.

00:27:06.000 I just don't believe it.

00:27:07.720 Stay with us.

00:27:08.440 Your letter's to me next.

00:27:15.000 Hey, there's some feedback on my comments about data centers.

00:27:23.580 J.G. Smith said,

00:27:25.180 Ezra failed to recognize a fourth group point of opposition.

00:27:29.040 It is clear to many that the globalists and collectivists are in the process of building a global digital prison surveillance state.

00:27:35.440 This is certainly a great cause for concern and, in my mind, worthy of addressing prior to criticizing the potential loss of a few potential jobs.

00:27:43.520 listen you're what you're saying is computers are a tool that can be used to censor and i think

00:27:51.460 that's exactly right there really weren't computers around when george orwell wrote 1984

00:27:56.500 he talked about something called telescreens which were basically tv sets that watched you

00:28:02.240 as you watched them they were always listening to you so he was aware of the totalitarian potential

00:28:08.740 of new high-tech tools he never would have imagined the ubiquity of high-tech but what

00:28:15.700 you're saying if i may is that computers and tech and phones and satellites and email these all these

00:28:23.120 can all be tools to silence people to surveil people and i'm saying yes you're right and those

00:28:30.260 are problems that should be addressed but the place where the microchips are is not the problem place

00:28:36.260 The problem place is what the government is doing with it, what companies are doing with it, what the rules are about privacy and censorship.

00:28:42.880 I don't think you can un-invent a transistor or a microchip or AI.

00:28:48.600 In some ways, I really wish you could, but that's just not real life.

00:28:53.940 And if you want to fight back against government censorship, I don't think the front lines of that battle is at a data center in the country in northern Alberta.

00:29:01.620 i think the front lines of that battle are in parliament because they're going to bring in

00:29:05.640 that censorship whether or not there's a data center in alberta benjamin rabier commented

00:29:11.420 saying forgot to cover the noise issue and the claims that the recirculating water is actually

00:29:16.160 debunked marketing trip trick wab canoe had one point in that speech which you didn't cover which

00:29:22.380 is the individual computers may be handling more of the ai making these centers obsolete also the

00:29:30.000 loss of prime farmland going along with winds and solar um i'm group two you know that land i was

00:29:38.660 talking to my colleague shila gunry today who knows that land that's not prime farmland it was

00:29:44.080 but then they sold it to be a place for heavy industry upgraders refineries for the oil patch

00:29:50.040 which didn't happen because they were killed by people against those industries um everything we

00:29:55.680 do takes up land this isn't as sprawling as a wind farm or a solar farm um yeah it takes up land

00:30:02.600 but just you know i suppose everything takes up land this takes up a lot less land than those

00:30:07.460 things i really don't think that's a legit objection certainly not the landowner that is

00:30:12.600 industrial land that was actually going to i mean if you if climate is your measure if environment

00:30:18.240 is your measure i think this data center is going to have a smaller footprint than a you know oil

00:30:23.720 upgrader would have. Bernhard Jacek commented saying, Kathy Hochul is Andrew Cuomo's successor.

00:30:30.740 How is she an improvement? And let's not forget how AOC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez made sure that 0.86

00:30:36.260 Amazon couldn't set up a facility in the New York City area. Sanders is also a blatant hypocrite. 0.99

00:30:41.620 How many houses does he own? Yet he verbally chastises deplorables for traveling. Yeah, 1.00

00:30:48.120 I mean, if you have a problem with Amazon, explain it.

00:30:53.320 I mean, we can have problems with big companies if they do something wrong.

00:30:57.440 Let's talk about the problems. 0.72

00:30:59.040 But when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sort of drove out an Amazon distribution center from 1.00

00:31:05.480 her district, I don't think she changed the world in any way other than just fewer jobs 0.97

00:31:12.100 in her district. 1.00

00:31:14.240 And I think that's what Kathy Hochul's doing.

00:31:16.300 She did this before.

00:31:17.360 Not her, actually. It was the previous governor, Cuomo, who put in a ban on fracking. Now, New York state abuts Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania was a real steel state, you know, steel and coal. And both of those industries were in grave decline until the fracking revolution, because there's also a lot of shale gas in Pennsylvania.

00:31:39.160 And the difference between Canada and the U.S. is if you own some land in the U.S., you own the subsurface rights also.

00:31:47.500 In Canada, you just own the surface rights.

00:31:49.820 The king owns the subsurface rights.

00:31:53.320 So in Pennsylvania, when they discovered natural gas and how to frack it, so many people became wealthy because anyone with land that had natural gas under it.

00:32:05.660 And so many people got jobs fracking and drilling.

00:32:09.900 And it has been a huge boom in Pennsylvania.

00:32:13.560 And, you know, I actually looked at this fairly closely.

00:32:16.620 I visited Washington County, Pennsylvania to see this transformation.

00:32:20.700 That state was saved.

00:32:23.280 It was turning into the Rust Belt.

00:32:25.140 It was the jobs were going away.

00:32:27.220 I remember driving by one steel factory that had like one shift left.

00:32:32.940 Like it was dying.

00:32:34.380 And just in a miraculous sense of timing, fracking came and hired a quarter million people with six-figure jobs.

00:32:42.500 Oh, and by the way, they paved every road in the state.

00:32:45.360 So, listen, New York is still a powerful, wealthy state.

00:32:49.100 But it's almost a perfect political line north of the border in New York, in rural New York, is poorer than Pennsylvania.

00:32:57.940 And it's because New York banned fracking.

00:33:00.140 It's a very long answer.

00:33:01.200 Look, I'm not saying there's no problems with this, and I'm certainly not in love with Mark Zuckerberg, who has censored Rebel News for 11 years.

00:33:08.840 But I think that this is sort of a form of Luddism.

00:33:13.180 You know, the story of Ned Ludd, who smashed the, I think it was the looms, because he wanted to protect the old way of life.

00:33:20.040 Oh, believe me, I get that.

00:33:21.760 I think a lot of people, if they could put cell phones, or at least smartphones, you know, the genie back in the bottle, I think they would.

00:33:28.940 Life was simpler.

00:33:29.720 certainly for teenagers i think it was a lot easier being a kid before the ubiquity of cell 1.00

00:33:35.560 phones every word you said wasn't captured on film social media didn't empower the mean girls

00:33:40.640 people had to go out and live real lives and be sociable i think there were a lot of risks that

00:33:45.840 have come with this technology but solve those risks i think smashing the phones is not going

00:33:52.260 to do it and i i feel it's that same luddism um you know i'm going to think about this more i

00:33:57.800 appreciate your feedback and i'm glad you're telling me your thoughts that's the show for

00:34:02.500 today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters and you at home

00:34:07.400 good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - July 16, 2026

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