Rebel News Podcast - September 30, 2022


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Giorgia Meloni's win in Italy sets off the left, while Pierre Poilievre is on the rise in Canada


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Our friend Manny Montenegro joins us live via Skype from Ottawa to talk about the new Prime Minister of Italy, Giudice Maloney, and why she's not Justin Trudeau's choice for the next prime minister of Canada.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Tonight, a feature interview with our old friend Manny Montenegrino. He's so
00:00:04.940 smart, and he pulls together so many ideas, and he sort of knits them together in an interesting
00:00:10.960 way. I love catching up with him, so we're going to take the whole show with him. But before I do,
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00:00:33.600 from Trudeau. All right, here's today's show.
00:00:51.280 Tonight, Italy has a new prime minister that the liberals all hate. And can Pierre Paulyev win?
00:00:58.120 It's a feature interview with our friend Manny Montenegrino. It's September 29th,
00:01:03.200 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:07.600 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:19.460 There's a lot going on in the world, a lot going on here in Canada. One of my favorite guys to talk
00:01:24.580 to. He's got a very clever mind. He's a great analyst. He's got a legal way of thinking, but
00:01:30.540 he's also very political. You know, he's been a lawyer to political leaders, including
00:01:36.160 former prime minister Stephen Harper. I love talking to Manny Montenegrino. He's the boss of
00:01:43.200 ThinkSharp in Ottawa. But I always have to make sure we take our time because there's so much we cover.
00:01:50.580 We can't just fit it in, the 15-minute interview. So today, what a delight to have for our entire
00:01:56.760 show, my friend Manny Montenegrino, joining us live via Skype from Ottawa. Manny, great to see you
00:02:02.600 again. Great to be with you, Ezra, as always. Well, I love it when you come on the show, and I thank you
00:02:07.980 for your time. I want to talk about something that's close to my heart as a super fan of Italy. You know,
00:02:15.100 I was born Jewish. I like being Jewish. But if I had to be any other background, I would want to be
00:02:21.440 Italian. I love the country, the people, the food, the music, everything. And God bless the Italians
00:02:28.000 who have shaped the world in so many ways. And Italy just elected its first female prime minister,
00:02:34.560 Georgia Maloney. And I don't know that much about her, but I like what I see. Italy's a G7 country.
00:02:41.160 They're a NATO ally. There's a million and a half or more Italian Canadians. Like, Italy and Canada
00:02:47.780 are friends. But Manny, Justin Trudeau refuses to issue even the most perfunctory congratulations to
00:02:57.900 her winning. Like, she's a female leader. You'd think that would be his bailiwick, but he is treating
00:03:04.380 her. He's ghosting her. He's giving her the cold shoulder. I find that shocking. Yeah, no, so do I.
00:03:10.820 I mean, I'm extremely disappointed. But it tells you the true nature of who Justin Trudeau is.
00:03:17.300 He is a very vindictive, divisive human being. If you do not align with his personal principles,
00:03:28.880 you do not exist. He will ghost you. He will completely ignore you. And Ezra, we've seen this
00:03:36.520 for years with this guy, this vindictive, hateful prime minister. Black Lives Matter. Now, remember 1.00
00:03:43.900 that protest. This was during a pandemic where people, we weren't even allowed out. It was the
00:03:51.400 worst of times during this pandemic. He sat there, went and met with him. Forget the health rules,
00:03:58.360 forget everything. He's aligned with that value. He knelt with him. And that's who, if you are on
00:04:05.240 Justin Trudeau's bandwidth, you are going to get royal treatment. Now, compare that with the
00:04:12.500 truckers, who he once called, only a year and a half ago, he called truckers essential workers.
00:04:18.440 These are our heroes. We need them. We love them. They're bringing our food and everything to us.
00:04:24.140 And then a year later, because they wanted to stop this very vindictive policy. Imagine putting in a new
00:04:34.260 health policy for COVID when we were at the tail end and about to release it all. He puts this
00:04:41.940 vindictive policy and he wouldn't meet with them for a second. That tells you who he is. Now, the new
00:04:49.040 Italian PM is very oppressive. She's basically going back to core values. And, you know, Italy has
00:04:58.800 done a lot in the years being progressive and moving on to its progressive values. And it hasn't worked
00:05:06.880 well. I mean, it works well with elites, but not to the people on the street, Italians. And so, yeah, 1.00
00:05:14.120 we have a change in government. She's a wonderful woman. I mean, I mean, again, the fact that Trudeau
00:05:19.800 will not say anything about her goes, goes back to his, I will call him a, a, a huge misogynist.
00:05:28.920 Why would I, why would I say that? Not because, because of facts. You might recall that he sexually
00:05:35.240 assaulted Rose Knight, the reporter. Right. I mean, that was, that was admitted.
00:05:39.560 And then he said that she experienced it differently. Right. Like she had an awful, he had an awful
00:05:44.600 excuse for it. Yeah, of course, but he did. He sexually, and then the second thing, which
00:05:49.740 was, I mean, I, I, I take, um, I kind of look at who our attorney generals are and, uh, uh,
00:05:58.120 Judy, Jody Wilson-Roybo was an impressive attorney general, uh, a female indigenous woman. He
00:06:05.560 just kicked you to the curb, very misogynist in his treatment, as well as he was with Philippot.
00:06:12.840 And then we, we, we know about his misogyny. If, if women do not agree with him, then boom, he,
00:06:19.720 they're done. So we've seen that, um, he talks the talk about women in policies, the whole liberal
00:06:27.000 world, Hillary Clinton, everybody should be applauding that we finally have a PM, a PM and a, a
00:06:34.600 female PM in a G seven country, but no, you know, just diplomatic protocol. Like the whole idea of
00:06:42.600 having diplomats is that you still deal with each other, talk to each other, even if there's
00:06:47.700 tensions. I mean, for heaven's sakes, um, we have diplomats in, in, in communist regimes like China.
00:06:54.580 We, like, we actually never stopped dealing with China when they took those Canadians to Michael's 1.00
00:07:00.020 hostage. If Trudeau will continue to do business with China when they were holding our hostage, 0.74
00:07:06.100 but he won't even say congratulations. He wouldn't even say congratulations to the Italian people
00:07:12.560 on a successful election. Like he just won't say anything. And I checked, I checked Trudeau's
00:07:18.240 Twitter feed, the foreign affairs, Twitter feed, Melanie Jolie's Twitter feed, like not even
00:07:23.540 acknowledging it. That's just pouty. And listen, this is a guy Trudeau who gave a beautiful eulogy
00:07:31.620 for Fidel Castro, but he can't say a word about our G seven NATO ally, not even a perfunctory
00:07:38.580 congratulations. I look forward to working with you though. We may have our differences. Our
00:07:42.580 friendships are greater, like whatever. He won't even say that. He's like a pouty child. He's like a
00:07:47.300 pouty teenager. Well, I think the biggest threat to a progressive, vacuous, um, you know, liberal
00:07:57.540 that is all virtue signaling is a woman with conservative values that is well-spoken. And, 0.95
00:08:06.020 and, and, and those are the biggest threats because, uh, very powerful. She's very powerful. You know, 0.98
00:08:13.220 let's forget about the personalities. Let's just look at what's happened in Italy. I
00:08:17.200 have a friend that just came back from Italy. Italians are paying a thousand euros for hydro per
00:08:25.100 month. Their pension is a thousand 300 per month. Like, can we at least give the people of Italy
00:08:33.480 some credit? They're saying we can't do this. We can't get on this road of progressism because we
00:08:40.160 are literally dying. We are not going to survive the next tranche of these wonderful little experiments.
00:08:47.180 that these millionaires and billionaires, uh, contrived. So it's fair that they're saying,
00:08:51.980 well, we've had enough. I mean, Italians say, Hey, you know what? I mean, Italians are, 1.00
00:08:56.540 you know, you can push them around a lot, but there's a point in time where they say, okay, basta,
00:09:03.020 basta. And, uh, you know, and they say enough. And, and, and, and so where you have the Italian people 0.99
00:09:09.660 saying, we can't, I mean, you look at, you look at the whole, the whole culture is under attack.
00:09:15.500 I mean, we, as Canadians have to respect every other culture, except the Canadian culture. 0.82
00:09:21.340 Italians have to respect, respect every other culture, except the Italian culture. And I tell
00:09:25.900 you, the Italian culture is a pretty damn good culture. It's got a lot. And to see it be, you know,
00:09:33.260 dismantled daily, uh, you know, Canada's culture is a wonderful culture, but we're only been around
00:09:39.180 a hundred years or so, uh, to sit there and see the progressives destroying the family, you know,
00:09:45.260 deal la familia, uh, you know, uh, uh, when, when you go after country, um, uh, families,
00:09:53.900 I mean, families are important to Italians to sit there and say only five people can get together
00:09:59.660 for Christmas on an arbitrary decision. The Italian family was under assault. So, you know,
00:10:06.700 I mean, it's inevitable that they're going to ask for a new government and it's, it's nothing,
00:10:11.580 you know, untoward many made me think of two videos I've watched recently by Georgia Maloney.
00:10:17.580 The first one is where she talks about her values and her identity as a mother, as a wife,
00:10:23.580 as a Christian, as an Italian. And I thought this kind of strong patriotic talk would have really
00:10:29.100 resonated. Now, the left called that fascism, but they denounce everything as fascism. Here,
00:10:34.060 watch Georgia Maloney really go through who she thinks she is and by expansion who she thinks Italians are. 0.83
00:10:42.940 Look at this video. I thought it was beautiful.
00:10:44.540 I could do so many other questions.
00:10:47.820 At the moment, there's what we do today. Why the family is a enemy?
00:10:51.340 Why the family is so afraid?
00:10:53.820 There is a unique answer to all these questions.
00:10:56.620 Why does it define our identity?
00:10:59.740 Why does it define our identity?
00:11:01.820 Because everything that we define in this time is a enemy?
00:11:03.820 Why would it be that we would not have an identity and that we would only be
00:11:08.620 just a good person, a good person.
00:11:11.260 And then it's under attack to the national identity, it's under attack to the
00:11:15.420 identity of religion, it's under attack to the identity of gender, it's under attack to the identity of 0.98
00:11:19.340 family. I don't need to be Italian, Christian, mother, Christian...
00:11:25.660 No, I need to be a citizen X, a gener X, a genitore 1 and 2, I need to be a number.
00:11:31.820 Because if I'm only one number, when I don't get any identity, when I don't get any
00:11:35.900 and you say, well, I'll be the perfect schiave in balia of the great financial speculation, the perfect consumator.
00:11:42.900 And this is the reason for which today we are afraid.
00:11:54.900 This is the reason for which today we are afraid.
00:11:58.900 Because we don't want to be numbers.
00:12:01.900 We don't want to be numbers, we will defend the value of human being, of every single human being,
00:12:07.900 because each one of us has a unique and unique code and repetitive.
00:12:10.900 And this is the sacred.
00:12:12.900 We will defend ourselves.
00:12:14.900 We will defend ourselves.
00:12:15.900 We will defend ourselves, the Father and the family, who make so much shit to anyone.
00:12:18.900 We will defend ourselves for our freedom,
00:12:22.900 because we will never be schiave and simple consumers in balia of the financial speculation.
00:12:28.900 This is the mission of our mission.
00:12:31.900 This is why today we came here.
00:12:32.900 Chesterton wrote more than a century ago.
00:12:36.900 Let's see if I find it.
00:12:39.900 The fog will be set up for 2 plus 2 is 4.
00:12:43.900 The fog will be set up for 2 plus 2.
00:12:45.900 The fog will be set up for 2 plus 2.
00:12:47.900 The fog will be set up for 2 plus 2.
00:12:49.900 The fog will be set up for 2 plus 2.
00:12:51.900 We are ready.
00:12:52.900 Thank you.
00:12:53.900 Thank you.
00:12:54.900 Many that's I love that.
00:13:00.900 But let me show you another video that goes to what you were talking about about poverty
00:13:06.900 and how, you know, in many ways, Italy has not kept pace economically.
00:13:11.900 Energy prices.
00:13:13.900 Listen to her critique Emmanuel Macron.
00:13:17.900 Right.
00:13:18.900 And talk about how Italy's energy plans were stifled by European Union bosses.
00:13:27.900 Listen to this.
00:13:28.900 This really resonated with me.
00:13:30.900 And I'm not Italian.
00:13:31.900 I could see why someone who feels like they didn't benefit from the last 20 years of globalism,
00:13:37.900 why this resonated.
00:13:38.900 Take a listen to Giorgia Maloney talk about the economy.
00:13:41.900 Emanuel Macron.
00:13:42.900 Emanuel Macron.
00:13:43.900 Emanuel Macron ci ha definiti vomitevoli, shinichi, irresponsabili.
00:13:56.900 E qui la stampa italiana a dire eh, hai visto che ha detto Macron che siamo irresponsabili.
00:14:02.900 Vergogna.
00:14:03.900 Irresponsabili Emanuel Macron sono quelli che hanno bombardato la Libia perché gli dava fastidio
00:14:08.900 che l'Italia avesse un rapporto privilegiato in campo energetico con Gheddafi, esponendoci
00:14:15.900 al caos migrazione nel quale ci troviamo.
00:14:21.900 I cinici Emanuel Macron sono i francesi che mandano la Gendarmerie a rispedire indietro qualunque
00:14:28.900 immigrato tenti di passare il confine a 20 miglia.
00:14:32.900 Ma soprattutto, perché le cose vanno raccontate come si deve, vomitevole è chi come la Francia continua
00:14:47.900 a sfruttare l'Africa stampando moneta per 14 nazioni africane sulle quali applica il signoraggio,
00:15:08.900 facendo lavorare bambini nelle miniere, estraendo materie prime, come accade in Niger, dove la
00:15:16.900 Francia estrae il 30% dell'uranio che gli serve a far camminare le centrali nucleari e
00:15:21.900 il 90% dei nigerini vive senza elettricità.
00:15:25.900 Non ci venire a fare lezioni, Macron, perché l'Africa scappa da voi.
00:15:31.900 E la soluzione non è spostare gli africani in Europa, è liberare l'Africa da certi europei.
00:15:38.900 Non accettiamo lezioni, chiaro?
00:15:42.900 So that's a, you know what, she's attractive, she's energetic, she's passionate, she's patriotic,
00:15:51.900 she's a fighter, not a wishy-washy woman, I think she's a hell of a presence. 1.00
00:15:56.900 And, I don't know, but she's not, you know, a caricature.
00:16:01.900 In her first day on the job she gave a shout out to Ukraine.
00:16:05.900 So she's not some pro-Putin activist as someone accuser of.
00:16:10.900 I think she's very interesting, I'd like to learn more about her.
00:16:13.900 Yeah, you know, you forgot to add on your list.
00:16:16.900 She's a mother.
00:16:18.900 Right.
00:16:19.900 You know, Italian mothers, when you go too hard against who they are, their identity,
00:16:27.900 you get a little bit of a fight back, and we should be getting a little bit of a fight back from all mothers. 0.99
00:16:33.900 So she doesn't like to be that role, which in some people is the greatest role a woman can achieve, 1.00
00:16:41.900 is being a mother, giving birth.
00:16:43.900 I mean, there's nothing greater that you can do than to create life.
00:16:48.900 And to sit there and be demeaned, some mothers don't like that. 1.00
00:16:52.900 And she seems to be one of those mothers that doesn't like that.
00:16:56.900 You know, I'm enjoying getting to know her through her speeches, but let me show you something funny.
00:17:02.900 I mean, I'm on Twitter, I use it to express myself, but I also use it to search things.
00:17:07.900 It's got a good search engine.
00:17:08.900 You can search by video, you can search by image.
00:17:13.900 If you go to Twitter.com and search for just the word Georgia Meloni and search for videos,
00:17:21.900 it will not give you a single result.
00:17:24.900 Twitter is banning you.
00:17:29.900 It's absurd.
00:17:30.900 I just tried it before we came on the show here.
00:17:32.900 I thought, well, let me just check.
00:17:33.900 Is that really what's going on?
00:17:34.900 And I tried it.
00:17:35.900 And our control room boss, Olivia, tried it. 0.88
00:17:38.900 We could not.
00:17:39.900 Twitter is banning the entire world from searching for Georgia Meloni videos.
00:17:44.900 And I'm shocked by that.
00:17:45.900 But I shouldn't be shocked if they kicked off Donald Trump.
00:17:49.900 Of course they're going to kick off a foreign leader.
00:17:51.900 I find that atrocious.
00:17:53.900 They're trying to meddle in Italy's democracy.
00:17:56.900 I find that outrageous, but completely predictable.
00:18:00.900 Yeah.
00:18:01.900 And no, the most anti-democratic people are the people on the left are liberals.
00:18:07.900 They will not tolerate.
00:18:09.900 Listen, I have, I, I, Trudeau has policies that I don't agree with.
00:18:16.900 They truly hate.
00:18:19.900 They want, they're vindictive.
00:18:21.900 I mean, you look what's happening with in the United States.
00:18:24.900 You know, they're going after Trump, like using all the full force of the law.
00:18:30.900 They're very vindictive people.
00:18:32.900 And, and so, so they don't like the, and because the ideas are sound.
00:18:39.900 I will, I mean, the ideas resonate.
00:18:42.900 Yeah.
00:18:43.900 The great Arnie, what made Canada great?
00:18:47.900 What made America great?
00:18:49.900 What made Italy great?
00:18:51.900 What made a lot of these countries great are the values that she's now reinstating.
00:18:56.900 I mean, when I came to Canada, it was God, country, family.
00:19:01.900 You know, in 1959, we, we, it wasn't a, you know, we felt that we were a little more family Italians, but Canadian families were pretty, pretty, had a strong resolve.
00:19:14.900 So, you know, Canada was not much different from a value system than, than Italy when I, when we immigrated in 59.
00:19:23.900 Now, those values are gone.
00:19:26.900 I mean, the family is gone.
00:19:29.900 The, the identity of the, so instead of being identified to these core values, now you must identify with these liberal values that unfortunately can't meet the test of time.
00:19:41.900 I mean, if, if you were a feminist and you said, you know, only women should have the, you know, the, you know, on their, on, on, on their persons. 1.00
00:19:48.900 Well, what is a woman today? 1.00
00:19:50.900 I mean, we've, you know, so, so their values, unfortunately don't endure and because they don't endure, they're always in crisis.
00:19:59.900 You know, I was going to ask you when you talked about Trudeau's vendettas, I know why he had a vendetta against the truckers.
00:20:05.900 They embarrassed him.
00:20:06.900 Right.
00:20:07.900 They, they caused people to wake up to the fact that not everyone was going on.
00:20:11.900 It was, it was actually a very transformative moment.
00:20:13.900 So I know why he has that vendetta, but I was thinking, why does he have a vendetta against Maloney?
00:20:18.900 I'm sure he's never met her.
00:20:21.900 I'm sure he knows very little about her, but I don't think it's so much personal as he just despises all those things you listed.
00:20:28.900 She's sort of the anti-Trudeau.
00:20:31.900 He's woke.
00:20:32.900 She's traditional.
00:20:34.900 He's all style, no substance.
00:20:37.900 She's about core values.
00:20:39.900 He's a globalist who believes in shutting down carbon, shutting down nitrogen.
00:20:44.900 And she's a real person who cares about the poor.
00:20:47.900 That's why he's got a vendetta against her.
00:20:49.900 But not only that, Ezra, what's most important to a misogynist, misogynist like Trudeau, and I can prove if I were in a court and I had 12 jury members, I could prove that he's a misogynist.
00:21:02.900 There's enough evidence I've given you.
00:21:05.900 But most importantly to a misogynist liberal is those strong values, great oratory skills wrapped up in a woman is what destroys them the most. 1.00
00:21:17.900 I mean, we can go back as far as Margaret Thatcher.
00:21:20.900 I mean, there's a strong conservative.
00:21:22.900 Like, what they didn't like about her, the liberals, is that she's a woman. 0.98
00:21:28.900 You can go after a man that has conservative values.
00:21:32.900 You know, you can call him a racist.
00:21:34.900 You can call him a misogynist.
00:21:36.900 You know, you just make these charges.
00:21:38.900 It's pretty hard to use those tried and true lies against a woman. 1.00
00:21:43.900 So they basically, the only thing they can do to stop her is to obliterate her and pretend she doesn't exist.
00:21:52.900 Because, I mean, the very first, had he been a man and had he been saying the exact same words that she's been saying,
00:22:02.900 they would then run up a few women saying, oh, he sexually assaulted me, he did this, and they would destroy him.
00:22:07.900 But they can't touch her.
00:22:09.900 So she's an incredible threat. 0.65
00:22:11.900 Any woman, you know, and I assure you it's going to happen. 1.00
00:22:15.900 The first, you know, in Canada, we had our first female prime minister was a conservative. 0.98
00:22:20.900 America, their first female prime minister, president, will be a woman. 1.00
00:22:25.900 And it will be a powerful person because they cannot be attacked using the same, you know, tried and true.
00:22:34.900 Oh, she's a racist. 1.00
00:22:36.900 She's a or he's a racist.
00:22:38.900 He's a sexist.
00:22:39.900 He's a misogynist.
00:22:40.900 Or, you know, so that's why she it's really the nature that the fact that she's a woman that that is saying these exact words.
00:22:47.900 I agree with you.
00:22:48.900 I agree with you.
00:22:49.900 And and I'll give you some more examples.
00:22:51.900 You mentioned Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott.
00:22:53.900 Sure.
00:22:54.900 I would add to that Celine Cesar Chavannes.
00:22:56.900 Yes.
00:22:57.900 He really doesn't do well with women who don't obey him.
00:23:00.900 But he also hates men who disagree with him.
00:23:04.900 I remember the last time he had a pout over a foreign leader being elected was Jair Bolsonaro.
00:23:11.900 Oh, sure.
00:23:12.900 In Brazil.
00:23:13.900 And now Brazil doesn't have the same close ties with Canada that Italy does.
00:23:18.900 We didn't have the same immigration from Brazil.
00:23:21.900 It's we just don't have some of the similarities.
00:23:24.900 But Brazil is a very important country.
00:23:26.900 It's a very large country economically, population wise resources to have that kind of a pout about major countries.
00:23:37.900 It just feels so small time.
00:23:39.900 I don't know if you remember this.
00:23:41.900 I think this clip is from the G20 where Trudeau is looking around for anyone to make eye contact with him.
00:23:46.900 And he sits down to Bolsonaro and Bolsonaro couldn't care less about Trudeau.
00:23:51.900 Exactly.
00:23:52.900 Trudeau wanted to shake his hand and be cool when the cameras were on, but he wouldn't even send him a letter of congratulations.
00:23:58.900 Let me ask you about one last exchange.
00:24:01.900 I'm going to show you two quick videos, Manny.
00:24:04.900 This first one is a montage put together by the Media Resource Center in the States,
00:24:10.900 which is just different American TV hosts using almost the identical language to denounce Maloney.
00:24:18.900 And I tell you, Manny, not a single one of these journalists had even heard the name Maloney the day before.
00:24:25.900 But now they're so certain she's a neo-fascist. 0.96
00:24:28.900 They all used identical language.
00:24:31.900 It was like they were reading from the same press release.
00:24:33.900 Take a look at this two minutes of hate against Georgia Maloney. 1.00
00:24:38.900 Take a look.
00:24:39.900 Voters in Italy tomorrow appear poised to make a hard right turn.
00:24:43.900 The woman expected to become prime minister leads a party with roots in neo-fascism. 0.94
00:24:48.900 The hallmarks of Italian fascism like this motto.
00:24:51.900 God, fatherland, and family.
00:24:56.900 A far-right political party whose roots go back to post-World War II neo-fascists.
00:25:01.900 Far-right political party whose roots go back to post-World War II neo-fascists.
00:25:05.900 Roots in Italy's post-war fascist movement.
00:25:08.900 Roots in Italy's 20th century neo-fascist movement.
00:25:11.900 Maloney herself was a hardcore neo-fascist militant.
00:25:16.900 Stunning because of Italy's disastrous history the last time a hard right party rose to power.
00:25:22.900 The most far-right government in that country since Mussolini.
00:25:26.900 Most right-wing government since Mussolini.
00:25:29.900 Since Mussolini.
00:25:31.900 A red flag, if there ever was one, says Edith Brook, a renowned poet and Holocaust survivor.
00:25:37.900 Italy about to see the country's most right-wing government since World War II.
00:25:42.900 Most far-right government since World War II.
00:25:45.900 Since the end of World War II.
00:25:47.900 Maloney's win will probably send alarm bells throughout Europe.
00:25:51.900 You know, it's alarming to a lot of people around Europe.
00:25:54.900 Italy is revered for its history, but not all of that history is beautiful.
00:25:58.900 And many fear that one particularly ugly chapter could soon repeat itself.
00:26:03.900 Manny, here's the thing.
00:26:05.900 Someone who actually knows Georgia Maloney, who fought against her in politics, is an Italian politician by the name of Renzi.
00:26:16.900 And he appeared on CNN.
00:26:18.900 And CNN thought, oh, this is going to be great.
00:26:20.900 We got ourselves a liberal.
00:26:21.900 I'm going to set it up nice and slow.
00:26:23.900 And it's just going to be a Matteo Renzi.
00:26:26.900 He's a former Italian prime minister, no less.
00:26:28.900 So, certainly no fan of Maloney.
00:26:30.900 But watch this exchange.
00:26:32.900 It is too good, Manny.
00:26:34.900 Take a look.
00:26:35.900 But personally, frankly speaking, I was against Georgia Maloney.
00:26:41.900 So, I'm not the best friend that we grew up together in politics.
00:26:44.900 But we were, we are, and we'll be rivals always.
00:26:49.900 At the same time, I think that is not a danger for Italian democracy.
00:26:55.900 She is my rival.
00:26:58.900 I'm rival.
00:26:59.900 We will continue to fight each other.
00:27:02.900 But the ideas are now there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely a fake news.
00:27:11.900 She won election, particularly because populism a lot of times won in Italy.
00:27:20.900 So, they were hoping that he would say, oh, she's a fascist.
00:27:24.900 He specifically said, she's not a danger.
00:27:27.900 She's not a fascist.
00:27:28.900 She's my rival and I'll keep fighting her. 0.99
00:27:30.900 But she's not a fascist, Manny.
00:27:32.900 Right.
00:27:33.900 Now, you would think that would be so instructive to the fake news media.
00:27:38.900 Here you have her biggest opponent, a liberal in the Italian parliament, who says nothing.
00:27:46.900 In fact, says quite the opposite.
00:27:49.900 She's not a fascist.
00:27:50.900 She just has a different view of politics. 0.99
00:27:52.900 You would think that someone like Trudeau, someone like the fake news media, would say,
00:27:58.900 well, that person is probably the most credible person about her personality.
00:28:02.900 And we should give him the greatest weight because he's saying nothing but complimentary stuff about her.
00:28:08.900 And she's nowhere near what the media or Trudeau is trying to do. 0.98
00:28:12.900 And you would think that they would at least listen to somebody who's been on the ground, a liberal like them, and saying, you know what?
00:28:20.900 She's all right.
00:28:21.900 She just has different values than I do, which is fine.
00:28:24.900 I mean, this is what democracy, what I don't understand about the new liberal is they just hate the concept of democracy.
00:28:33.900 It's all right.
00:28:35.900 Canada does very well when it has two different ideas to pick from, when the electric has two different ideas.
00:28:41.900 Italy does well.
00:28:42.900 We don't do very well.
00:28:44.900 I mean, you look at Cuba, you look at China, they don't do very well when they have nobody to pick from.
00:28:49.900 So if liberalism works when conservatism fails, conservatism works when liberalism fails.
00:28:56.900 And if you keep pushing that stone, we become a great country.
00:28:59.900 To sit there and to demonize one half of the population, one half the ideas, it is just repugnant.
00:29:07.900 Yeah.
00:29:08.900 That's right.
00:29:09.900 That was the other point Rensi making.
00:29:10.900 She just won an election. 1.00
00:29:11.900 I mean, she didn't have a coup.
00:29:13.900 Yeah.
00:29:14.900 She didn't have a push.
00:29:15.900 It's quite something.
00:29:16.900 Yeah.
00:29:17.900 Well, listen, I find Italy very interesting as a country.
00:29:20.900 I love the history.
00:29:22.900 You know, it's a wonderful place for vacation.
00:29:24.900 There's so many things to like about it, but I'm going to study their politics more closely
00:29:28.900 if I can, if I'm ever allowed to search for videos from Giorgia Maloney.
00:29:33.900 Apparently, Twitter thinks that's too risky.
00:29:35.900 I can't handle that.
00:29:36.900 Well, Ezra, one more bad election in Canada.
00:29:41.900 The Montenegro family might have to immigrate back to Italy.
00:29:44.900 Well, you know, that would be our loss.
00:29:46.900 But, you know, it's beautiful over there.
00:29:49.900 Well, let me let me switch gears.
00:29:50.900 I mean, I introduced you as someone who knows law and politics here in Canada.
00:29:55.900 You were the lawyer to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, for example.
00:29:58.900 So it was fun to talk to you about Italy.
00:30:00.900 I know it's close to your heart.
00:30:01.900 And, you know, I find it very interesting.
00:30:03.900 And we learn a lot about Trudeau and the media censorship through what's happened there.
00:30:08.900 But I want to get back to Canada because that's where we both live and that's the country we love.
00:30:14.900 I am cautiously optimistic about the new leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, Pierre Polyev.
00:30:20.900 And we haven't had you on since he became leader of the party.
00:30:24.900 And I must say he won with a great majority on the first ballot, 68 percent and change on a ranked ballot, first ballot there that really took the air out of the balloon for those who would say, oh, the party's divided.
00:30:39.900 This isn't a party we don't know it shows.
00:30:42.900 And he won in almost every single district in the country.
00:30:46.900 I think he won more than ninety nine percent of the district.
00:30:48.900 So a strong win.
00:30:51.900 Give me your thoughts.
00:30:52.900 I'll just stand back.
00:30:53.900 Why don't you riff on Pierre Polyev for a while?
00:30:55.900 Well, I'm so excited.
00:30:57.900 I know Pierre personally.
00:30:59.900 I can tell you that he is extremely impressive, extremely knowledgeable.
00:31:05.900 And there's one thing that Pierre I obviously Stephen Harper, in my opinion, was the best prime minister we ever had.
00:31:14.900 But I think Pierre will do better.
00:31:17.900 And the reason why Pierre will do better is he's from a different age group who understands the media a lot more than we did 20 years ago or 15 years ago.
00:31:31.900 We now know that the media acts very much like the enemy to conservatism, the enemy to idea.
00:31:38.900 I mean, we just gave some examples where you can't even get a video of the newly elected PM, where the media simply creates a narrative for the liberals.
00:31:50.900 Pierre understands that.
00:31:52.900 And unless you understand and meet it, we don't do well.
00:31:56.900 And that is the most impressive part about him is he understands that the media are not the friend.
00:32:04.900 And so that's great.
00:32:05.900 He has great core idea.
00:32:07.900 Now, here's an interesting thing about Pierre.
00:32:09.900 And this is what I love about him.
00:32:12.900 He would otherwise be the poster boy for the Liberal Party.
00:32:17.900 And let me explain that to you.
00:32:19.900 Not because of his ideology, but because of what liberals always put forward.
00:32:24.900 They always put forward concepts like a single mom, immigrants, refugees.
00:32:32.900 Well, Pierre Polliver is an adopted child from a single mom.
00:32:39.900 His parents that adopted him, God bless him, probably two wonderful people because they raised a wonderful boy, were teachers.
00:32:47.900 Not millionaire oil barons like the Trudeaus. 1.00
00:32:51.900 They were just humble teachers.
00:32:53.900 Now, plus he married this wonderful woman from Venezuela.
00:32:58.900 She sounds like my family where we immigrate.
00:33:01.900 Oh, she's great. 0.89
00:33:02.900 Oh, she is. 0.88
00:33:03.900 But immigrated with nothing. 0.99
00:33:05.900 Just a lot of spunk and a lot of determination and a lot of love and a lot of openness in her heart.
00:33:12.900 And here she is, an immigrant, a refugee, you know, marrying an adopted child that was raised by two teachers.
00:33:20.900 That would be the poster person of of the Liberal Party.
00:33:24.900 They would say, oh, my God, that's every he's everything we wanted.
00:33:28.900 No.
00:33:29.900 What they really choose all the time are the swamp are the millionaires.
00:33:33.900 And I mean, you look at Trudeau.
00:33:35.900 I mean, he hasn't worked a day in his life before he became a politician.
00:33:39.900 Nothing but privilege.
00:33:40.900 So much privilege that he wore blackface five times or too many times to count. 0.98
00:33:45.900 This this is who the liberals really are.
00:33:48.900 You look at in the states, Joe Biden.
00:33:51.900 I mean, nothing but swamp and privilege like his whole 50 years of being.
00:33:56.900 It is it is it is quite funny because you would think that if you just look on paper.
00:34:03.900 Pierre should be getting 90 percent of the liberal votes if the liberals believed in the values that they talk about.
00:34:09.900 You know, I think you zoomed in on two of his great strengths.
00:34:13.900 One is he knows the media in twenty twenty two is not neutral.
00:34:18.900 And more importantly, he knew he knows he can't win them over.
00:34:21.900 They are not his friends.
00:34:22.900 If they're smiling at him, it's the smile of a crocodile.
00:34:26.900 I think you're so right on that.
00:34:29.900 I think we should talk a little more about that.
00:34:31.900 But the second thing and this is what hit me when I was there on that leadership night because I had read I'd seen little snippets of his wife.
00:34:38.900 I think his name is her name is Anita.
00:34:40.900 I had never really heard her give a speech and she can give a speech. 0.75
00:34:46.900 Not only is she eloquent.
00:34:48.900 Yeah.
00:34:49.900 Her substance here.
00:34:50.900 Let me just play a little clip of her election night speech.
00:34:55.900 She is a secret weapon, Manny.
00:34:57.900 Take a look at it.
00:34:58.900 Yeah.
00:34:59.900 My husband and I share the same values.
00:35:01.900 Although our background is a little different.
00:35:04.900 I was born in Caracas, Venezuela and my family immigrated to Canada in 1995 in a working class neighborhood in the east end of Montreal.
00:35:20.900 My father, he went from wearing business suits and managing a bank to jumping on the back of a pickup truck to collect fruits and vegetables because that's what he had to do to feed his family.
00:35:33.900 The Galinda family present here tonight taught us hard work and that there is no greater dignity than to provide for your own family.
00:35:45.900 Manny, you know, I don't want to pick on Sophie Trudeau because that's the spouse of a PM.
00:35:50.900 She's her own person.
00:35:51.900 She was touted as as, you know, a media personality in her own right.
00:35:56.900 But very quickly, they pulled her out of the public sphere.
00:35:59.900 She doesn't say a lot in public.
00:36:01.900 She just isn't strong for a number of reasons.
00:36:04.900 And I really am not picking her.
00:36:05.900 I'm picking on her, by the way.
00:36:06.900 Right.
00:36:07.900 But it's clear that Pierre Polyev's Mrs.
00:36:10.900 is going to be a significant part of the campaign to reach out to new Canadians.
00:36:15.900 I think she would probably be described as a visible minority. 0.98
00:36:19.900 You know, I think that she will be a secret weapon and she will be deployed and I think she will have great success.
00:36:27.900 And by the way, all of a sudden, Justin Trudeau looks not old, but let's just say he doesn't look young anymore.
00:36:35.900 Well, yeah.
00:36:36.900 He's 50, almost 51.
00:36:39.900 And, you know, Polyev and his wife are half a generation younger and they feel younger.
00:36:46.900 Yeah.
00:36:47.900 The difference between the two wives, in my opinion, and it goes down to the difference between conservatism and liberalism. 0.99
00:36:56.900 You when you listen to Pierre's wife speak, you see the true core values.
00:37:02.900 You see that she's actually lived the values.
00:37:05.900 And she, when she speaks, there's authenticity and credibility to her words.
00:37:12.900 That's why she's a powerful speaker. 1.00
00:37:14.900 When you hear Sophie speak, it's kind of like a stage actress talking about things.
00:37:21.900 And, you know, there isn't any veritas, there isn't any gravitas to her words.
00:37:29.900 They're just words that are vacuous because if she truly believes in what she said, she could not be married to a man that has been fundamentally racist.
00:37:39.900 You know, I can give you and I think we did a show on his racism, but his black face, you know, likening me immigrant from Italy to ISIS warriors that come back after killing.
00:37:51.900 I remember that.
00:37:52.900 Yeah.
00:37:53.900 He talked about Italian and Greek immigrants.
00:37:54.900 He could hear me play a clip of that.
00:37:56.900 That was so crazy.
00:37:57.900 It was so weird.
00:37:58.900 You take a quick look.
00:37:59.900 A little heckling out here, so appreciate you coming.
00:38:01.900 I just want to know how your stance on ISIS is going to help Canadians in any way.
00:38:07.900 I need to know how you're going to protect future Canadians like my young daughter and, you know, 10, 15, 20 years from now when you're letting people in with an ideology that just does not conform to what we're doing here.
00:38:20.900 So, you know, I'd really like to know your take on things.
00:38:23.900 Absolutely.
00:38:24.900 No, I think that gives me an opportunity to talk about, first of all, the fact that one of the reasons Canada is successful as a country is because we have been open to people fleeing persecution, fleeing war zones, looking for a better life for themselves and their kids.
00:38:35.900 That's been the story of this country from the time the first European settlers came to be received by Indigenous people.
00:38:54.900 People were fleeing conflict, poverty, difficult situations, and came to Canada to build a better life for themselves.
00:39:05.900 And successive waves of people have in every different time, every different wave.
00:39:11.900 And when we welcomed in waves of refugees, whether it was the Ismaili refugees in the early 70s, whether it was the Vietnamese boat people in the early 80s,
00:39:20.900 whether it was people fleeing the devastation of the Second World War from Southern Europe in the 50s and 60s,
00:39:27.900 the Italian communities, the Greek communities, the Portuguese communities, and others.
00:39:32.900 Our country is so much the better for it.
00:39:37.900 And there is a sense at one point that, okay, maybe now that's enough.
00:39:43.900 Maybe we have just about all the diversity we can handle and we shouldn't have any more.
00:39:48.900 Well, I can tell you, when Italian families settled in Montreal in the post-war years,
00:39:55.900 they faced terrible discrimination and people who pushed back at them and said,
00:39:59.900 No, no, no. You don't belong here. You don't speak English or French. 1.00
00:40:03.900 Every wave of immigration has faced pushback because of how they dressed or how they sounded or what their belief was, what their religion was.
00:40:14.900 And every wave of immigration has led to Canada being a better, stronger, more resilient, richer country.
00:40:22.900 That's just weird.
00:40:23.900 Well, they're not weird. I will never, you know, there's a line in The Godfather for the Italians that are watching.
00:40:29.900 And The Godfather, they're from my home village, so we have a dialect.
00:40:34.900 And he says,
00:40:35.900 And that means, you know, I will never forget.
00:40:38.900 And when he made that parallel to my father, you know, it brings me to tears.
00:40:43.900 This man that gave up his land, his language, his culture, because his family was dying in Italy after the war, gave up everything, came here, worked hard, broke his back in construction,
00:40:54.900 raised five beautiful boys, always contributed to society, never even saw the shade of the law, and loved Canadian values.
00:41:03.900 To liken him to an ISIS fighter who went and tried to kill Canadian troops and come home is something I will never forget.
00:41:11.900 This man is racist. Trudeau has no concept what values are, what people are.
00:41:16.900 He just judges them by either their skin color, or they came from a different place, so they must be the same person.
00:41:22.900 So no, so that's the difference.
00:41:24.900 When you listen to Sophie, I sit there and go, nothing she says is true, because why are you married to a racist?
00:41:31.900 Why are you married to a sexist?
00:41:32.900 Look what he's done to women. 1.00
00:41:34.900 Look, he sexually assaulted a woman and basically blamed the reporter that she didn't quite understand that that wasn't sexual assault.
00:41:42.900 I mean, how does a wife accept that? 1.00
00:41:45.900 So Sophie has to deal with a lot of things, but that's the liberal way. 1.00
00:41:50.900 You basically have to deal with things that you say you believe, but you really don't believe.
00:41:54.900 But you see the veritas from Pierre's wife, when she speaks, you know she's telling the truth.
00:42:03.900 Yeah. Well, I was impressed with her.
00:42:05.900 Now, let me ask you a few quick questions.
00:42:07.900 I remember when Stockwell Day became the new leader of what was then called the Canadian Alliance.
00:42:12.900 And he had some pizzazz and he was a bit of a media sensation.
00:42:17.900 And Jean Chrétien, being a wise old hound, thought, let's go to the election quick.
00:42:22.900 Let's define this guy.
00:42:24.900 Get him before he's really got a grasp of it.
00:42:26.900 Now, Stockwell Day got a few more seats.
00:42:29.900 If memory serves, he added, I don't know, six or so seats to the count.
00:42:34.900 But Chrétien moving fast certainly wobbled Stockwell Day.
00:42:39.900 Absolutely.
00:42:40.900 Do you think that Justin Trudeau and his brain trust are saying we got to move quick before Pierre Pauliev defines himself?
00:42:48.900 We got to move quick before the economy goes into a recession?
00:42:52.900 Let's have an election quickly.
00:42:54.900 What do you think?
00:42:55.900 I think you're absolutely right.
00:42:57.900 He has to do it.
00:42:58.900 I mean, he's probably getting advice because it's going to get worse and worse because we're going to see the strength of Pierre.
00:43:04.900 The only difference is nobody knew who Stockwell Day was when Stock had a run at it.
00:43:10.900 Well, there are two differences, Ezra.
00:43:13.900 Two major differences.
00:43:14.900 The media defined the politician back in the day.
00:43:17.900 The liberal fake news media always defined.
00:43:21.900 I mean, I can't tell you how many, you know, David Dukes were described as conservative leaders.
00:43:29.900 I mean, you know the story with Preston Manning.
00:43:32.900 I was first to meet him in Ottawa.
00:43:35.900 And I remember reading the Globe and Mail headlines.
00:43:39.900 This is back in 1991, 92.
00:43:42.900 The David Duke of the North described him.
00:43:44.900 Yeah.
00:43:45.900 And here I am, an immigrant, an Italian, a managing partner of a national law firm sitting behind Jean Chrétien's desk.
00:43:53.900 And I want to meet this guy.
00:43:55.900 And I was just so afraid.
00:43:56.900 What if the media was true?
00:43:58.900 Yeah.
00:43:59.900 And I knew, you know, the kind of spider senses.
00:44:02.900 And we said, they're liars.
00:44:04.900 I met Preston Manning, the nicest, wonderful.
00:44:07.900 Well, of course, now he's loved.
00:44:10.900 But, you know, but that's what the media does. 0.69
00:44:12.900 It just describes.
00:44:13.900 They did the same thing with Stephen Harper.
00:44:15.900 And they did the same with Stockwell Day.
00:44:17.900 It's good.
00:44:18.900 Two things.
00:44:19.900 They can't do it with Pierre, because Pierre has been around a long time.
00:44:22.900 And Pierre, but also Pierre knows that how to fight the media.
00:44:27.900 Instead, you know, kind of like DeSantis in Florida, he understands the media.
00:44:33.900 And in the moment, see, you know, Ezra, I'm a lawyer.
00:44:37.900 I practiced in a big law firm for a long, long time.
00:44:40.900 I had to get a law degree, which was pretty hard.
00:44:43.900 And it's hard to be a lawyer because credibility is very important.
00:44:49.900 The media, the general media, there's no requirement, no test.
00:44:54.900 You just become.
00:44:55.900 And the credibility for the media, now this is a profound statement, only exists because others give them credibility.
00:45:04.900 Right.
00:45:05.900 And if you, once you strip away that, that gracious granting of credibility, these people are pretty base and pretty normal and pretty, pretty unimpressive.
00:45:20.900 I've known a lot of media journalists who, if you take away the clout that they have in front of the national TV, these are not impressive human beings or really impressive thinking.
00:45:33.900 There are, of course, there are a few exceptions, but they aren't.
00:45:36.900 And if we get to understand that and what's happened in social media, everybody's starting to see it.
00:45:42.900 I mean, they're starting to see, boy, this guy's embarrassing.
00:45:44.900 How can he ask that question?
00:45:46.900 Because we know X, Y, Z.
00:45:48.900 Well, before, if we didn't know X, Y, Z, that person was a profound thinker, that media.
00:45:53.900 So, so, so, so really, the moment we strip away the credibility from these people that are building a narrative that is not reported in news.
00:46:04.900 I mean, in my opinion, the media have the greatest job.
00:46:07.900 And, you know, they have probably the most important institution in a free democracy.
00:46:13.900 But when they start driving a narrative, I mean, they're already lining up against this female Italian PM. 1.00
00:46:20.900 I mean, wait a minute, you haven't even done any due diligence.
00:46:23.900 We're lining up, we're lining up, you know, and we're seeing, we're seeing.
00:46:27.900 So, the moment you stop giving these people credibility and you question them, like Trump started questioning, when he started questioning, they folded.
00:46:37.900 DeSantis started questioning, where are you getting that premise from?
00:46:40.900 Yeah.
00:46:41.900 You know, most people think that X, Y, Z.
00:46:43.900 Well, where's your study?
00:46:44.900 And then they fold.
00:46:45.900 Yeah.
00:46:46.900 Once you start removing the credibility that they get by nature that we're a polite society, we don't want to sit there and be unpolite.
00:46:58.900 The media really is stark naked.
00:47:01.900 And I think Pierre understands that.
00:47:03.900 You know, let me add two things to what you just said.
00:47:06.900 The first is, on his leadership election night, his campaign manager, Jenny Byrne, came up to us and said,
00:47:12.900 just so you know, Pierre Polyev's not going to be doing any interviews tonight with any media.
00:47:17.900 So, Rebel News, don't take it personally.
00:47:19.900 I like the fact that she could go over to say that.
00:47:21.900 But I thought that was an excellent move because she knew that she could craft the message that he wanted to get out there.
00:47:29.900 And he's so good.
00:47:30.900 Those little videos.
00:47:31.900 Yeah.
00:47:32.900 Like he just does like a three minutes on that or five minutes on that.
00:47:35.900 And they're sort of fun folksy tales.
00:47:38.900 Sometimes he'll talk about a coin.
00:47:40.900 He'll talk about an old wooden barn.
00:47:42.900 I mean, he's just he's got a certain he's a good talker.
00:47:46.900 And he knows he can get hundreds of thousands of views that he controls on Facebook or Twitter or YouTube.
00:47:54.900 He doesn't have to submit to the CBC to get the word out.
00:47:57.900 Right.
00:47:58.900 And you know what we saw?
00:47:59.900 I'm amazed of President Trump, who probably was the greatest Twitter user out there.
00:48:06.900 He understood that man understands the media.
00:48:10.900 I mean, he's been in it.
00:48:12.900 He had a number one TV show.
00:48:13.900 So his major skill is understanding energy and media and so on.
00:48:19.900 So he knew.
00:48:20.900 And that's why Twitter was so important.
00:48:22.900 He was getting out more messages than than the trillion dollar, you know, legacy media out there.
00:48:30.900 He was getting his message out.
00:48:31.900 That's why he's off Twitter, because it was so effective.
00:48:34.900 I think Pierre understands that, you know, I mean, I look at my kids.
00:48:39.900 I mean, I'm still stuck on CBC nightly news because I'm old.
00:48:43.900 And but I also do other social media research.
00:48:46.900 My kids don't even know what CBC is.
00:48:49.900 I mean, they get their news from somewhere else.
00:48:51.900 They don't.
00:48:52.900 You know, and my kids aren't even I mean, they're they're old now.
00:48:55.900 They're almost 40.
00:48:56.900 But but so think about that next generation underneath the 20 year olds.
00:49:01.900 They're not getting anything from the legacy media.
00:49:03.900 Nobody watches it.
00:49:04.900 So their influence is less and less.
00:49:07.900 And because your influence less and less, they've become more militant in their narrative more and more just to keep that last, you know, 60 year olds, you know, watching, you know, subscribing to their views.
00:49:19.900 So so there's a neat thing happening.
00:49:22.900 There's a information is broader.
00:49:24.900 People are getting informed different ways.
00:49:26.900 And the the once entrenched legacy media doesn't have a stranglehold on what is the truth.
00:49:33.900 You know, and it's great to catch up with you.
00:49:36.900 I enjoyed our talk about Georgia Maloney.
00:49:38.900 And it's interesting to talk about Pierre Pauly of Maloney.
00:49:41.900 The polls showed that she was destined to win and the polls were correct.
00:49:45.900 I think that the polls are showing that Pierre Pauly of is a real chance.
00:49:51.900 I was going to ask you, can he win?
00:49:53.900 But I'm sure you agree with me.
00:49:55.900 Of course, he can.
00:49:56.900 Yeah.
00:49:57.900 I want to ask you a bolder question.
00:49:59.900 Do you think he will win if you had to make a prediction today?
00:50:04.900 Will Pierre Pauly of beat Justin Trudeau in the next election?
00:50:07.900 Absolutely.
00:50:08.900 I mean, there isn't a question.
00:50:10.900 And the reason why I say that it doesn't have to do with Pierre Pauly of Maloney.
00:50:14.900 It doesn't have to do with Justin Trudeau.
00:50:17.900 Just talk to a Canadian, any Canadian. 0.85
00:50:20.900 I mean, you know, like we're looking like I cannot believe like like Ezra, this runs deeply with me.
00:50:28.900 I cannot believe that Canada's health care system is collapsing.
00:50:32.900 We basically, you know, we're almost third world in our health care.
00:50:37.900 I cannot believe that we can't afford to fill it up our tanks.
00:50:41.900 I cannot like the average Canadian is saying, what price do we pay for for Trudeau's vanity projects?
00:50:51.900 I mean, I get it.
00:50:52.900 Trudeau's a multimillionaire.
00:50:53.900 He still flies to his trips.
00:50:55.900 He still gets to do exactly what he wants.
00:50:57.900 But but the average Canadian is we're taking like, you know, they are food prices are going up.
00:51:04.900 We're now going, you know, we've done it.
00:51:06.900 You know, the liberals have done a job of destroying the the oil sands and oil industry in Canada.
00:51:13.900 I mean, think about if we had a different mindset and we said, you know what?
00:51:18.900 China is still buying all its oil.
00:51:20.900 Oil is like there are there are eight billion people on this planet.
00:51:24.900 One billion has decided, which is why I call the basic, you know, the white colonial countries have decided, well, we've had enough with fossil fuels. 0.74
00:51:34.900 Let's move to something else.
00:51:35.900 We're rich. We can do it.
00:51:36.900 But there are about seven billion people on the planet, China, India, Africa.
00:51:40.900 They're saying, yeah, nice talk, guys.
00:51:42.900 But we want to just get out of poverty.
00:51:44.900 We want we need these cheap fossil fuels.
00:51:46.900 You know what?
00:51:47.900 Because we're dying.
00:51:48.900 Our mortality rate, our our our lifespan is 56, 60 years old.
00:51:52.900 We kind of want to be with where you were and fossil fuels are doing it.
00:51:56.900 So the most racist thing, in my opinion, most greatest racist movement that there is in the world today is the global warming narrative.
00:52:06.900 I mean, these people.
00:52:08.900 So imagine if Canada and not Russia, Saudi Arabia and other oil produced nations produce oil.
00:52:16.900 You know, very environmentally sound ethically and all that.
00:52:22.900 And we were putting out the oil.
00:52:24.900 There would be no war in Russia.
00:52:26.900 There would be no war in Ukraine.
00:52:28.900 Zero.
00:52:29.900 Putin doesn't have the money.
00:52:31.900 Right.
00:52:32.900 You know, that's an important statement.
00:52:34.900 We would not have.
00:52:35.900 Now, Ezra, this is personal.
00:52:36.900 I'm a golfer.
00:52:37.900 We would not have the live tournament.
00:52:39.900 I don't know if you know what that is.
00:52:41.900 You don't know what that is.
00:52:42.900 Oh, well, you're some of your viewers.
00:52:44.900 But we wouldn't have Saudi Arabia's putting a billion dollars to compete with the PGA.
00:52:49.900 Right.
00:52:50.900 Yeah.
00:52:51.900 Yeah.
00:52:52.900 So, I mean, like Canada would actually have we would have a decent pension for elders.
00:52:58.900 Well, you're talking about ethical oil.
00:52:59.900 You know, our oil is superior to conflict oil.
00:53:02.900 Oh, you're talking.
00:53:03.900 You're preaching the choir here, my friend.
00:53:05.900 So.
00:53:06.900 So people are starting to see that.
00:53:07.900 They're starting to say, like, so it's not a Pierre Polivar or a Justin.
00:53:11.900 They adjust it.
00:53:12.900 It's like, can you give me back some of my life that I want to enjoy a bit?
00:53:16.900 I'm prepared to be progressive and help people, but not to the extent that puts me to my knees.
00:53:22.900 Yeah.
00:53:23.900 Well, Manny, it's great to catch up with you.
00:53:25.900 We learned so much.
00:53:26.900 And the conversations are always so wide ranging.
00:53:29.900 A little bit of politics, a little bit of law, a little bit of history, a little bit of geography.
00:53:33.900 It's great to see you again, my friend.
00:53:35.900 Great to see you.
00:53:36.900 I hope you enjoy the Italian passion.
00:53:38.900 Oh, you know what?
00:53:39.900 You make me want to go back there.
00:53:41.900 I haven't been able to leave the country in three years, but I'll hopefully have a chance.
00:53:45.900 Take care, my friend.
00:53:46.900 OK, take care.
00:53:47.900 There you have it.
00:53:48.900 Manny Montenegreno, the CEO of ThinkSharp.
00:53:51.900 Stay with us.
00:53:52.900 My final thoughts are next.
00:54:05.900 Well, it's always great to catch up with Manny.
00:54:08.900 I don't know.
00:54:09.900 I'm excited by Georgia Maloney because it tells me that it is possible for a thoughtful conservative populist to win in Europe, despite censorship from social media giants.
00:54:20.900 I know that in France, Facebook and Twitter and others have really worked hard to prop up Emmanuel Macron.
00:54:26.900 They've tried that in other parts of Europe, too.
00:54:29.900 I'm glad to see some parts can punch through because, boy, the stranglehold of communication these days is powerful.
00:54:36.900 Of course, Justin Trudeau wants to throttle our Internet here, too.
00:54:41.900 I think Manny's right about Pierre Polyev.
00:54:43.900 I believe he can win.
00:54:44.900 I believe he will win.
00:54:45.900 Of course, I don't want to be held to that.
00:54:48.900 You never know what's going to come up.
00:54:50.900 And of course, Pierre Polyev's greatest opponent is not the Liberal Party.
00:54:53.900 Never was.
00:54:54.900 It was the media party and they are out for blood.
00:54:57.900 Well, that's our show for today.
00:54:59.900 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:55:05.900 Katie Davis Court reporting for Rebel News.
00:55:07.900 I'm on location at 3rd and Yesler in downtown Seattle.
00:55:10.900 A shooting just occurred while I was one block away walking.
00:55:13.900 And so I came to investigate what was going on.
00:55:16.900 A man was shot in the net.
00:55:18.900 We have one victim.
00:55:19.900 The suspects fled the scene.
00:55:21.900 They have not been located yet.
00:55:22.900 So I thought it would be a good time to ask what's going on in Seattle.
00:55:26.900 Ask the public about if we have a public safety crisis and if we need to refund the police department.
00:55:33.900 And so let's see what they have to say.
00:55:36.900 Police are looking for the person who shot a man in Pioneer Square, that man in critical condition at this point.
00:55:43.900 So a shooting just happened on 3rd and Yesler.
00:55:45.900 What are your thoughts?
00:55:46.900 It's Seattle.
00:55:47.900 Do we have a public safety crisis?
00:55:49.900 Of course we do.
00:55:51.900 Do we need to refund the police department?
00:55:54.900 Of course we do.
00:55:56.900 If the mayor was here, what would you say to him?
00:55:58.900 What would you say to city council?
00:56:00.900 Do your job.
00:56:01.900 I think they need to figure out something.
00:56:04.900 They need to get the homeless and get help for these people.
00:56:07.900 And give them the option to either get help or send them away.
00:56:10.900 Put them in prison.
00:56:11.900 You know?
00:56:12.900 This ain't the place for them.
00:56:14.900 There was a shooting that just occurred in broad daylight at 2 p.m.
00:56:17.900 A man was shot in the face.
00:56:18.900 What are your thoughts on that?
00:56:20.900 More safety.
00:56:21.900 More cops, I guess.
00:56:26.900 Welcome to Seattle.
00:56:27.900 Yeah.
00:56:28.900 It's getting worse out here.
00:56:29.900 There's many things that happen here in broad daylight.
00:56:32.900 It's not just shooting.
00:56:33.900 I was walking down to the light rail on the elevator two months ago and I was attacked and I didn't do anything.
00:56:41.900 The woman came and attacked me for nothing. 1.00
00:56:43.900 Do you know who attacked you?
00:56:44.900 Was it a homeless person?
00:56:45.900 It was a homeless.
00:56:46.900 Some type of drug person.
00:56:49.900 Do you think that we have a public safety crisis in the city?
00:56:52.900 Absolutely.
00:56:53.900 Absolutely.
00:56:54.900 Do you think we need to refund the police department?
00:56:58.900 I mean, I don't see a problem with it.
00:57:01.900 I think there's a stigma behind that whole defund the police.
00:57:05.900 It means a lot more than just that.
00:57:07.900 It means abolish the police and that's not what we should be doing.
00:57:10.900 That's a dumb idea.
00:57:11.900 We need the police, obviously.
00:57:13.900 Right.
00:57:14.900 If that's just what it meant, then maybe it would be useful, but it's not.
00:57:20.900 It's so much more than that.
00:57:21.900 Do we need to refund the police department?
00:57:23.900 Yes.
00:57:24.900 Absolutely.
00:57:25.900 Absolutely.
00:57:26.900 Do we need to refund the police?
00:57:28.900 Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:57:29.900 Do we need to refund our police department?
00:57:32.900 I think they're getting that figured out right now.
00:57:34.900 Yeah.
00:57:35.900 It was a huge mistake.
00:57:37.900 Thanks, Biden.
00:57:39.900 Thanks to city council.
00:57:41.900 They have defended them by more than 50 million.
00:57:43.900 And officers are fleeing in droves.
00:57:44.900 We don't have enough officers to even respond to normal calls.
00:57:47.900 They're all on priority one calls.
00:57:49.900 It's unreal.
00:57:50.900 It's like, what's this place?
00:57:52.900 What's this state coming to?
00:57:53.900 What's this city coming to here?
00:57:55.900 If city council was here right now, what would you say to them?
00:57:59.900 I really wouldn't know what to say.
00:58:01.900 You know, it speaks for itself.
00:58:03.900 What are your thoughts on them still not having open meetings to the public?
00:58:07.900 They're not attending.
00:58:08.900 They're still claiming COVID and no one can address their concerns.
00:58:10.900 Should they return to in-person meetings?
00:58:12.900 I mean, I gotta work.
00:58:13.900 I gotta go to work every day.
00:58:14.900 Now this unfortunately has become Seattle's new normal following the defund the police movement in 2020.
00:58:19.900 Just last month, the city recorded the highest number of fatal shootings in recent history.
00:58:23.900 But the majority of city officials still refuse to acknowledge that their decisions created a severe public safety crisis.
00:58:30.900 In 2020, city council proposed to defund the Seattle Police Department by more than 50%.
00:58:35.900 And their war against police created a significant staffing crisis where more than 400 well-trained officers left the department since 2020.
00:58:43.900 While Seattle's new mayor, Bruce Harrell, has been an advocate to restore public safety and there are plans in place to try to restore staffing levels with incentives,
00:58:52.900 the majority of city council refuses to publicly acknowledge that their decision to defund the police severely impacted the community.
00:58:58.900 In fact, some council members, such as Marxist Kishama Sawant, would still like to see police abolition despite the city hanging on by a thread.
00:59:06.900 I have a message for Jeff Bezos and his class.
00:59:10.900 If you attempt again to overturn the Amazon tax, working people will go all out in the thousands to defeat you.
00:59:18.900 And we will not stop there.
00:59:20.900 Because you see, we are fighting for far more than this tax.
00:59:24.900 We are preparing the ground for a different kind of society.
00:59:28.900 And if you, Jeff Bezos, want to drive that process forward by lashing out against us in our modest demands, then so be it.
00:59:37.900 Because we are coming for you and your rotten system. 1.00
00:59:41.900 We are coming to dismantle this deeply oppressive, racist, sexist, violent, utterly bankrupt system of capitalism, this police state.
00:59:51.900 We cannot and will not stop until we overthrow it and replace it with a world based instead on solidarity, genuine democracy and equality.
01:00:03.900 A socialist world.
01:00:04.900 Thank you.