Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Globalists are trying to flood the West with migrants before Trump turns off the taps

00:00:00.040 Hello, my friends. You know, I looked it up. There's only 102 days until the U.S. election.

00:00:04.360 That is coming up so quickly, and it'll have so many, you know, ripple effects around the world,

00:00:10.520 including on immigration in Canada. I really believe if Harris wins versus Trump,

00:00:17.200 I think it could be the end of the West as we know it, because it'll be the end of borders.

00:00:22.260 I'll take you through some of my thinking and what I think is going to happen,

00:00:24.960 including bad guys rushing through things in the next 102 days while they can.

00:00:30.980 I wonder what China has in mind. That's all ahead, but first let me invite you to become a subscriber

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00:00:49.900 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:54.960 Tonight, what are the next four months going to be like? It's July 26th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:16.380 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:24.960 Yesterday, I read to you the detailed letter by Senator Mark Rubio of Florida,

00:01:34.500 the ranking Republican member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

00:01:38.100 He's worried that Trudeau's scheme to bring thousands of migrants from Gaza to Canada

00:01:44.080 is a danger to the United States.

00:01:46.560 He wants to know how the U.S. Homeland Security Service plans to handle

00:01:50.120 any Gazans if they try to cross into U.S. territory.

00:01:54.060 He mentioned the possibility that they'd come to official border crossings,

00:01:57.860 but obviously he also mentioned the possibility that they would sneak through

00:02:01.460 where there is no official border crossing.

00:02:04.340 And in the case of Canada and the U.S., that's 99.9% of it.

00:02:08.860 There is no fences.

00:02:10.380 You know, we don't have a physical border between the two countries.

00:02:13.400 It's one of the greatest things in the world.

00:02:14.960 It's just open fields.

00:02:16.820 We're that friendly with them.

00:02:18.320 It's like how it is and was at Roxham Road.

00:02:22.820 Just a ditch with some markers.

00:02:25.380 Anyone could just hop across it.

00:02:26.740 For five years or so, tens of thousands, I think more than 100,000 people,

00:02:31.360 bogus refugees came north into Canada through Roxham Road.

00:02:34.920 In many cases, they were people who were about to be deported from the U.S.

00:02:39.360 For example, if they had their refugee status refused in the States

00:02:43.820 and were subject to a deportation order,

00:02:46.340 well, they could just sneak into Canada and have the whole thing start over again.

00:02:50.800 And, of course, we're too stupid to deport people.

00:02:53.280 We never do.

00:02:54.840 So now expect that traffic to go the other way.

00:02:59.000 I feel like things are speeding up.

00:03:01.040 I feel like things are getting more complex more quickly.

00:03:03.120 It's almost August.

00:03:04.680 I looked it up.

00:03:05.520 It's exactly 102 days from today until the U.S. election.

00:03:09.860 That's not a lot.

00:03:11.180 I think everything turns on that U.S. election.

00:03:13.580 I think that there will be a lot of forces in the world trying to alter that result, obviously,

00:03:18.940 but also a lot of forces in the world just trying to get things done in the next 102 days

00:03:23.300 that they might not be able to do after that.

00:03:26.540 Immigration is obviously a big part of that.

00:03:29.340 I think that if Trump actually does win,

00:03:31.480 I think he is going to crack down on the open border for real this time.

00:03:36.300 And it's just a lot of control now.

00:03:38.240 It's unsustainable.

00:03:39.220 And I don't think he's going to mess around with Canada.

00:03:42.160 What I mean by that is I think he'll basically say to Trudeau,

00:03:45.320 stop your Gaza shenanigans, 1.00

00:03:47.740 get a hold of your out-of-control immigration, 0.94

00:03:49.860 or get ready to have Canadian citizens be forced to get a visa to apply to travel to the U.S. in advance,

00:03:57.320 which would just devastate our economy.

00:03:59.460 I think you can see a sprint around the world to jam through as many migrants as possible everywhere 1.00

00:04:05.020 before Trump makes borders great again.

00:04:09.000 I mean, in Canada, if you can believe it,

00:04:10.860 we're actually faster, further, harder with immigration in 2024 than we were last year,

00:04:17.600 despite the liberals' promises to rein it in.

00:04:19.620 In the U.K., Ireland, continental Europe,

00:04:21.860 it's almost like kids left alone by their parents at home saying,

00:04:26.300 quick, mom and dad are coming home in an hour, we have to misbehave now before they're back.

00:04:32.100 It's not just immigration, of course.

00:04:33.620 The Russia-Ukraine war is something that I think has a four- or six-month timeline, too.

00:04:39.320 I say six months because if Trump wins in November, he doesn't take office until January.

00:04:44.080 We have known for some time now that there was a legitimate attempt to broker a peace between those countries

00:04:51.380 that came tantalizingly close back in 2022, just about six months after the war started,

00:04:57.900 until Boris Johnson was sent in to scupper it for whatever reason.

00:05:02.020 And I deeply regret that he was because hundreds of thousands of men have died on both sides since then,

00:05:07.620 and innocent civilians, too, of course.

00:05:10.540 And Russia has three times the population of Ukraine,

00:05:14.060 so both sides are putting their young men through the meat grinder.

00:05:17.320 It's a human tragedy.

00:05:18.280 But, of course, it's been much more so for Ukraine just because of its smaller size.

00:05:22.860 I know that the Pentagon has repeatedly said they think this is a winning war.

00:05:27.180 They're trapping Russian armies in Ukraine and unleashing American weapons against them,

00:05:33.480 missiles, tanks, armored vehicles, drones.

00:05:36.060 They've sunk a bunch of Russian ships.

00:05:39.360 And that has obviously hurt the Russians.

00:05:42.000 But the great Ukrainian counteroffensive of 2023 never really took off.

00:05:46.740 Russia continues to take more land daily.

00:05:49.360 I don't know what was achieved by saying no to peace a year and a half ago, a year ago.

00:05:54.720 Look at this from Yahoo News.

00:05:58.180 Kiev mayor, Ukraine may need to hold referendum in case of peace deal.

00:06:02.360 But it's a little more complex than that.

00:06:04.000 Here's what that mayor, Vitaly Klitschko, said.

00:06:06.760 He said, I'll just quote from the story,

00:06:08.940 Klitschko put the predicament in stark terms.

00:06:11.200 He's talking about the problem that Zelensky has.

00:06:14.320 The next few months will be very difficult for Vladimir Zelensky.

00:06:17.920 Should he continue the war with new deaths and destruction

00:06:21.780 or consider a territorial compromise with Putin?

00:06:25.580 And in this case, what pressure will come from America if Trump wins?

00:06:30.620 And how do we explain to the country that we need to give up pieces of our territory

00:06:34.220 that cost the lives of thousands of our heroes?

00:06:37.340 Whatever step he takes, our president risks committing political suicide.

00:06:41.980 Yeah, you can see Klitschko isn't exactly a fan of Zelensky.

00:06:45.160 I think Klitschko will likely be the next president there.

00:06:47.780 But this kind of conversation that the war may actually end

00:06:52.480 and we should probably start talking about it ending

00:06:56.020 and who's going to approve a peace deal,

00:06:59.280 certainly a marked departure from the last two years

00:07:01.620 where you weren't even allowed to talk about a negotiated diplomatic settlement.

00:07:05.660 And it's Trump's chances of winning that are making it a live issue.

00:07:09.480 I'm honestly surprised, given the events of the last two weeks,

00:07:12.940 that China has not made a move on Taiwan.

00:07:14.640 Do you know who's in command right now in Washington?

00:07:19.800 Joe Biden, I think we both know he's not.

00:07:22.340 Kamala Harris, I think we both know she's not.

00:07:25.140 So who? Does anybody know?

00:07:27.480 The confusion in America is very high right now.

00:07:30.100 Imagine the confusion in world governments.

00:07:33.080 My theory is that the Chinese are probably so totally wired 1.00

00:07:37.080 to every cell phone, email, TikTok app,

00:07:40.920 by everyone in the White House and Pentagon.

00:07:42.900 They're probably tracking so many people

00:07:44.620 that they probably know more about who is actually running the United States

00:07:48.800 and the U.S. military than U.S. citizens do

00:07:51.740 or than the U.S. media does.

00:07:53.600 What do you think of that theory?

00:07:55.800 I mean, do you know who's right?

00:07:57.160 Who would make the decisions?

00:07:58.800 Who would make a wartime decision right now

00:08:00.840 if there were a crisis, if China did try and invade Taiwan?

00:08:05.160 We all know it's not Biden.

00:08:07.180 And we all know it's not Harris.

00:08:08.280 So who? And does China think they could get away with something

00:08:12.220 in the next four months, the next 102 days,

00:08:15.440 that maybe they wouldn't be able to do if Trump wins in November?

00:08:19.700 I mean, look at that.

00:08:20.440 It's the end of July, so August, September, October,

00:08:24.260 and then basically a week.

00:08:27.100 I feel like Justin Trudeau wants to max things out,

00:08:29.880 just floor it in the meantime also.

00:08:32.240 You saw some clips of him talking to Kian Bextie on our show yesterday.

00:08:37.660 Why would Trudeau resign now?

00:08:39.960 I've been thinking about that more and more.

00:08:42.040 Because the polls say so,

00:08:43.700 because it's the right thing to do for the country.

00:08:46.340 But who would he resign in favor of?

00:08:48.640 Chrystia Freeland? He despises her.

00:08:51.000 Melanie Jolie? He knows she's shallow. 1.00

00:08:53.980 But why would Trudeau step aside for anyone?

00:08:56.340 I mean, first of all, who's going to make him?

00:08:58.420 The caucus, that is the MPs, that won't even meet?

00:09:01.960 By the way, Trudeau is not actually the legal boss of a caucus meeting.

00:09:07.160 It just, you know, they can meet whenever they want to.

00:09:09.640 There's a chair of the caucus.

00:09:11.240 It's its own institution.

00:09:13.660 Of course they can convene a meeting.

00:09:15.560 But they're not even doing that.

00:09:16.920 They're so whipped by Trudeau.

00:09:18.400 They're so utterly abject in their subservience to him.

00:09:21.780 And I think Trudeau believes he's God's gift to Canada.

00:09:25.840 I mean, he was born on Christmas Day.

00:09:27.680 So why would he do what the MPs tell him to do or want him to do?

00:09:32.220 I mean, from his point of view, didn't he make them?

00:09:35.220 Didn't he win their seats for them?

00:09:37.500 Do you think some rando liberal MP won on his own accord or on his own name or even by the local effort?

00:09:44.140 It was all Trudeau's reputation.

00:09:46.360 I think there's an argument to be made for that.

00:09:48.060 And I don't like Trudeau.

00:09:49.020 But can you name 50 backbenchers?

00:09:52.180 They're nobodies.

00:09:53.160 That's what Trudeau's dad taught us.

00:09:55.540 So I don't think Justin Trudeau's going anywhere.

00:09:58.320 He's too disgusted with his own MPs to respect them or defer to them.

00:10:03.940 Of course things will change if Trump becomes president.

00:10:07.800 But will he?

00:10:09.120 I don't know.

00:10:10.480 I don't want to daydream about it too much, though.

00:10:13.100 I mean, it's fun to think about, but it is outside of our power.

00:10:17.560 And given the recent assassination attempt and then the soft coup against Joe Biden,

00:10:22.960 it may be outside the power of U.S. citizens also.

00:10:26.380 You know that so-called serenity prayer?

00:10:28.680 You sometimes see it printed out on a scroll.

00:10:31.500 It's great, by the way.

00:10:32.640 I really like it.

00:10:33.480 It's a practical prayer, by the way.

00:10:35.260 You know how it goes?

00:10:36.280 God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

00:10:40.820 courage to change the things I can,

00:10:44.020 and the wisdom to know the difference.

00:10:45.580 I really like that.

00:10:46.880 That's pretty wonderful.

00:10:48.180 And it's not just some new age babble.

00:10:51.040 So what can we change?

00:10:54.280 Things in Canada probably more than things in the U.S., right?

00:10:58.440 Things in politics probably more than in other spheres.

00:11:02.280 Maybe even things in media, especially with new media,

00:11:05.140 independent media like Rebel News and others.

00:11:07.000 Probably easier to fix than, you know,

00:11:10.060 things decided by tiny groups of people like judges and courts.

00:11:13.160 But there's some hope there, too.

00:11:15.440 I'm hopeful when I look across the country away from Ottawa.

00:11:18.580 I'm hopeful about Daniel Smith in Alberta.

00:11:20.800 I'm excited to see very strong polls for the Conservative Party provincially in B.C.

00:11:25.800 If they had an election today, they would beat the NDP.

00:11:29.520 Saskatchewan is a rock, obviously.

00:11:32.440 I'm excited to see Pierre Pauly of slowly find his courage on issues like immigration,

00:11:38.260 at least baby steps there.

00:11:39.600 I think we have to keep up the pressure to shape the ideas battlefield in which the election will happen.

00:11:47.440 What I mean by that is to normalize, talking about issues that you're not supposed to.

00:11:51.600 Mass migration being an obvious one. 0.98

00:11:53.620 Nigel Farage is doing that in the U.K.

00:11:55.880 Marine Le Pen is doing that in France. 1.00

00:11:58.420 Geert Wilders is doing that in the Netherlands.

00:12:00.860 Obviously, Trump's doing it in America.

00:12:02.660 And you'll notice all the names I've just mentioned are having great success.

00:12:05.740 We have to shape our own country.

00:12:08.800 I care about America because I love America.

00:12:11.700 I care about America because it will affect things in Canada.

00:12:14.540 But we have to focus on shaping our own country.

00:12:16.900 That's what the serenity prayer shows us to do.

00:12:19.460 And what can be spoken about in Canada without whispering?

00:12:22.340 That's our work, I think.

00:12:24.860 So don't give in to cancel culture.

00:12:27.060 Don't censor yourself.

00:12:28.720 Don't accept attempted bullying by, say, the CBC.

00:12:33.220 I had a phone call today by someone who wants to work with us.

00:12:35.940 But her friends are mean to her about her relationship with Rebel News.

00:12:39.840 And she's wondering if she can work on the lowdown.

00:12:42.080 No, don't be that way.

00:12:43.680 Don't be that way.

00:12:44.560 Find the courage.

00:12:45.740 Find the courage to be who you are, to talk about things like the 3,000 Gaza migrants Trudeau

00:12:51.520 just gave visas to.

00:12:52.920 We have to normalize talking in our real voices, not just in whispers.

00:12:59.980 Stay with us.

00:13:01.000 Up next, our friend Lorne Gunter about the Jasper forest fires.

00:13:15.640 One of the first large crowdfunding campaigns Rebel News ever did

00:13:20.120 was for the wildfires that consumed the city of Fort McMurray almost 10 years ago.

00:13:26.040 It was a shocking fire.

00:13:27.320 The entire city had to be evacuated, and there were hellish scenes of arches of fire over the roads.

00:13:35.620 I found that deeply troubling.

00:13:37.440 And I love Fort McMurray for many reasons.

00:13:40.200 And we deployed Rebel News to try to crowdfund.

00:13:43.660 We actually raised over $100,000.

00:13:45.080 It was a very meaningful thing.

00:13:46.680 And it started us down the path of not just crowdfunding for Rebel projects,

00:13:51.000 but for third-party charity projects.

00:13:53.320 That one, we actually teamed up in the end with the Red Cross, and we've gone on to other things.

00:13:58.080 There's something about fires that I think is obviously primordial.

00:14:02.920 I mean, the birth of man and the birth of fire are closely connected.

00:14:08.620 It's managing fire, handling fire, and it's very humbling.

00:14:14.460 You know, the works of man, such as you see in Fort McMurray, that can be consumed by this force of nature.

00:14:22.260 It's like a volcano or a tidal wave.

00:14:24.180 It's terrifying.

00:14:25.640 We saw that in Lahaina, Maui, a year ago.

00:14:29.700 There's terrible scenes of scorched vehicles and lost lives.

00:14:35.220 And now we see that again in Alberta, in the beautiful town of Jasper, a beautiful national park,

00:14:42.220 obviously a tourist industry and a home to so many people.

00:14:45.280 Shocking images.

00:14:46.480 And to me, the images of burnt-out vehicles is somehow terrifying.

00:14:51.420 It feels like a war zone.

00:14:53.600 And it is a war.

00:14:54.960 Man versus nature.

00:14:56.460 And it's almost an impossible battle.

00:14:58.860 I'm troubled by what I see.

00:15:00.900 Joining us now to give us the facts about this all-consuming fire from Jasper

00:15:06.340 and to talk a little bit secondarily about why it was so bad.

00:15:12.400 The most important news is what happened.

00:15:15.500 Are people okay?

00:15:16.980 Were there deaths?

00:15:18.160 Is the fire under control?

00:15:19.680 But once those first-order questions are dealt with,

00:15:22.220 I think it behooves us as people who care about public policy to ask why and how.

00:15:27.540 Because those questions sprung up in Fort McMurray and in Maui.

00:15:33.200 And I think they ought to be answered here in Jasper, too.

00:15:36.600 Joining us now to talk about all this is our friend Lauren Gunter from the Edmonton Sun,

00:15:40.320 whose column is called,

00:15:42.460 Jasper Blaze Exposes Possible Flaws in Parks Canada Wildfire Strategy.

00:15:50.020 And Lauren joins us now.

00:15:52.840 Lauren, great to see you again.

00:15:54.200 These are very humbling things, fires.

00:15:56.020 And they bring us together beyond partisan stripe.

00:16:00.500 They're a terrible thing.

00:16:02.140 Tell me what you know about the Jasper fires.

00:16:04.500 We don't know everything yet.

00:16:07.520 There's going to be, in about two hours, a press tour of the town site for the first time since the fires went through on Wednesday night.

00:16:18.020 So that's now about not quite 48 hours.

00:16:21.360 And it'll all be pool photography, pool video.

00:16:25.900 So one camera, you know, one camera, maybe a couple of photographers will be allowed through.

00:16:31.560 And we'll get a better chance to see what's what.

00:16:33.580 But, for instance, last night, Thursday night, a full day after the fire,

00:16:38.780 the Jasper Park Lodge, which is the iconic historic lodge just outside the town site,

00:16:45.340 sent an email to all of its staff saying, we've lost four buildings.

00:16:50.960 One of them was one of the very beautiful private manors that they have.

00:16:56.860 One of the private suites that they have is a little like a big cabin.

00:17:00.960 One of them was a golf maintenance building.

00:17:03.620 One was another equipment building of some sort.

00:17:05.800 And then they lost another, I think, four suite guest house.

00:17:11.400 So they've lost some stuff, but the main lodge is okay.

00:17:16.660 And it sounds perhaps, and this sounds trivial at a time like this,

00:17:21.060 but it sounds perhaps like the golf course hasn't been totally consumed.

00:17:26.240 But the fire came towards this lodge from the golf course side.

00:17:31.640 And so you have to think with a 400-foot wall of flame coming at you that it probably has consumed some.

00:17:40.420 And we're going to find out, I think, a lot of the stuff in the west end of the town site of Jasper is gone.

00:17:47.000 But as we found in Fort McMurray, there will be surprising survivors, meaning buildings.

00:17:53.120 And most of the main infrastructure in town has been saved.

00:17:57.020 The fire crews tried very hard to keep the water treatment plant open and the hospital

00:18:01.960 and all sorts of very important infrastructure like that.

00:18:07.040 And they seem to have succeeded.

00:18:08.960 So, you know, in the aftermath, it's going to be awful.

00:18:12.700 We're going to see, as you said, a lot of burnt down buildings, burnt out cars.

00:18:17.120 And it's going to be bad.

00:18:19.020 But it may not be quite as bad as we were thinking it would be on Wednesday night.

00:18:24.040 Was there any loss of life that we know about?

00:18:26.100 Not that we know of.

00:18:27.680 And there, thankfully, weren't any major injuries either.

00:18:32.340 You know, this one family, I think, is probably symbolic of a lot of the attitudes towards this fire.

00:18:41.140 This family left Jasper, headed west.

00:18:45.540 People were told to go west.

00:18:46.880 I don't understand that.

00:18:47.900 I guess the fire was too bad on the highway going east because all the big facilities in Alberta are all to the east of Jasper.

00:18:55.920 But they were told to go west into B.C.

00:18:57.720 And they got to Valmont, which is a beautiful little town of about 1,000 people.

00:19:02.340 And the people in Valmont said, we don't know what we can do.

00:19:05.060 You know, there's 25,000 of you.

00:19:06.540 What can we do?

00:19:07.440 There's only 1,000 people in this town.

00:19:09.460 And so this one family who'd been staying in Hinton, which is about 45 minutes east of Jasper, just outside the park gates, they thought, okay, well, we'll drive to Kamloops.

00:19:23.300 Well, Kamloops is a four-hour drive from there.

00:19:25.880 Then they thought, well, we really should get back to Hinton.

00:19:28.180 So they went from Kamloops to Calgary, from Calgary to Edmonton, and from Edmonton back to Hinton.

00:19:34.520 It took them 15 hours to do this route that should take 40 minutes.

00:19:41.120 But at the end, they were interviewed, and they said, well, you know, at least we survived.

00:19:46.120 We're okay.

00:19:47.040 We're fine.

00:19:47.600 We got out of it.

00:19:48.780 So, you know, that's the attitude I think an awful lot of people have had about that.

00:19:52.400 I remember when Fort McMurray went up in flames, I think one of the things that was credited for the survival of the people was that a lot of people in Fort McMurray work for big oil companies that have a lot of safety drills, and they have fire marshals, and people practice those things as part of the industry.

00:20:09.700 So they're used to ideas like muster in a place and evacuate and who's the boss and stay calm.

00:20:17.180 And it's almost like if you, and I know you've been on a cruise ship with us before, they have a little drill before the boat goes to sea, just so you're used to it.

00:20:27.060 I'm guessing Jasper isn't the same way.

00:20:31.100 You mentioned 400-foot flames.

00:20:33.860 That's astonishing.

00:20:35.080 I think that's as tall as a 40-story building.

00:20:38.480 I mean, and the amount of heat from that, and that would jump over a river for sure, certainly a stream.

00:20:44.780 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:20:46.060 Let's talk about the reason for that.

00:20:49.600 There was all that dead forest that had been dead for years.

00:20:56.080 Years ago, the pine beetle came and killed all the trees, but the trees are still standing up, and they're dry as a bone because they're dead.

00:21:05.560 They're just standing up.

00:21:07.280 And let's talk about that because that was the fuel for this monstrous fire, wasn't it?

00:21:13.340 It was, absolutely.

00:21:14.100 And Parks Canada have been warned again and again and again that it had to do something about these trees.

00:21:21.560 But they are so woke and so green in their approach that they said, no, no, no.

00:21:27.480 The natural thing is to let the trees stand, and eventually the forest will rejuvenate itself.

00:21:34.420 Now, the way forests rejuvenate themselves is through fire.

00:21:39.080 So, I mean, they had to have sort of understood what they were saying was, well, we have to wait for a big fire to go through.

00:21:47.080 They did want to do controlled burns. 0.79

00:21:49.840 Parks Canada has said over the years that they would do controlled burns around the town site and down south into the valley where the pine beetle devastation was the worst.

00:21:58.900 But the conditions are very tricky there.

00:22:01.700 You can't do a big controlled burn in the summertime because there are 20,000 tourists there at any given time.

00:22:07.560 And so you have to hope that there's not early snow, that there's not late snow, that there isn't a soaking rain because controlled burns won't work in any of this.

00:22:18.560 So you only have a few weeks in what are called the shoulder seasons on either side of the summer, in between summer and ski season, where you can do these controlled burns.

00:22:27.940 And it never happened, so they just let tens of thousands of hectares of dead trees stand around getting drier and drier and drier.

00:22:36.320 And the guy who has been the mayor or the chief executive, chief elected officer of Jasper since 1989, a guy named Richard Ireland, he started in 2017 in a concerted way to try and get Parks Canada to do something about this.

00:22:53.520 In 2018, the residents set up a campaign called Save Jasper, which was hoping to get Parks Canada to allow forest companies to come in and log.

00:23:05.740 I was told last year by an executive in a forest company that they could help sort out the problems in Jasper in about two seasons if the parks would simply allow them to bring in equipment to take out every other tree.

00:23:21.800 Like, they have a plan, they have a formula about how many trees they have to take out and how they can stop the spread of a fire with taking out this tree and that tree and the one over there.

00:23:32.020 But nobody at Parks Canada would listen.

00:23:35.640 And they stuck with this environmental fantasy they have about how it was going to be naturally reforested.

00:23:43.540 That's just not a thing.

00:23:45.160 That's not a thing.

00:23:45.720 I mean, it is fire that is, I mean, and God bless it, normally, I mean, for millennia, that's how forests were rejuvenated, but it doesn't really work if you're in the middle of a tourist town.

00:23:56.940 Yeah, also, yeah, and that's the big thing there.

00:23:59.060 The big problem is that you have this theory about how the forest is going to naturally revive itself, which involves fire.

00:24:09.780 But it's not the natural forest anymore.

00:24:14.200 I mean, there isn't any part of Jasper that is as it was before first humans.

00:24:20.120 And I don't mean before first European, before first whites. 0.76

00:24:23.980 I mean, before first humans.

00:24:25.420 There's no part of Jasper that is this idol about, you know, pre-human contact.

00:24:32.780 So you have to accept that we are part of the ecosystem now, and particularly around the town site, you have to treat it as though it's a place where human beings live and work and recreate.

00:24:46.900 And so it's insane to have allowed these hectares, thousands of hectares of dry trees to just stand there.

00:24:56.600 And as soon as there was a lightning strike or whatever we're going to find out caused this fire, there was all these kilometer after kilometer after kilometer of perfect fuel for this fire.

00:25:13.200 And it just grew and grew and grew until it finally got into town.

00:25:18.220 And thankfully, when it got into town, you know, things are a little bit better managed there.

00:25:22.700 And it could only burn so much before it ran out.

00:25:26.180 And it's awful.

00:25:28.480 If it's your house that got burnt, if it's your small business that no longer exists, the one you've worked for your entire life, that is devastating.

00:25:38.200 Your world is gone.

00:25:39.760 I am not trying to downplay the impact of the damage this fire caused, because in individual lives, it was horrific.

00:25:50.000 But it could have been maybe not prevented, but mitigated.

00:25:55.380 And the other thing that happened, too, is and Premier Daniel Smith alluded to this yesterday in a news conference she had.

00:26:01.720 She said, look, we in Alberta have a lot of experience with wildfire now.

00:26:07.580 Over the last eight years since the Fort McMurray fire, we've developed the ability to fight fires at night.

00:26:14.000 We have night vision helicopters.

00:26:15.820 We can go in.

00:26:16.720 We can keep working through the night to fight fires.

00:26:19.860 Parks Canada doesn't have that.

00:26:21.820 So these two fires were coming at Jasper from the north and the south.

00:26:26.340 And when it got dark, Parks Canada had to stop.

00:26:30.120 And in the morning, they'd pick it up again.

00:26:31.580 And then they find, but the fires had moved by the time they could pick them up again.

00:26:35.440 And the other thing Smith said is, look, in Alberta, we have the equipment to create giant walls of water in front of these giant walls of fire.

00:26:46.080 And I don't know how that works.

00:26:47.120 And that was the first I'd heard of it.

00:26:49.060 But she said, we have the equipment and we have the staff who are experienced at using this.

00:26:53.220 And we've done it in wildfires around Alberta.

00:26:55.420 And it has stopped the really big ones.

00:26:59.060 But Parks Canada didn't ask us to join in on that.

00:27:02.060 In fact, they were asking at her press conference yesterday to be included in the integrated fire control system that Parks Canada has.

00:27:11.520 And they were not asked.

00:27:12.480 So, you know, it's interesting when Smith phoned Prime Minister Trudeau and said, could you please send the military to help us out?

00:27:21.820 Everybody thought that it was Alberta's responsibility to fight the Jasper fire. 0.57

00:27:26.700 It's not.

00:27:27.380 As soon as it's in the national park, it's Parks Canada, Judy.

00:27:31.480 And Parks Canada would not ask Alberta to send its equipment and experience to do this.

00:27:36.800 So you know what's going to happen.

00:27:39.500 You and I can predict this right here, right now.

00:27:42.940 There will be an investigation.

00:27:45.000 And climate change will be blamed.

00:27:46.560 You know what?

00:27:47.600 I'm about 90 seconds ahead of you.

00:27:49.960 I just searched on my phone for a tweet that came two days ago.

00:27:54.980 And it's stuck in my mind.

00:27:56.300 This is from a liberal MP who really is an unknown MP.

00:28:00.920 But his name is Eric Kusmerchik.

00:28:03.960 He's the liberal MP from Windsor, Tecumseh.

00:28:07.780 And here's what he tweeted.

00:28:09.300 He said, President Joe Biden tonight called climate change the existential threat.

00:28:16.480 We see it in Jasper.

00:28:18.740 As hearts break for Albertans, we pledge support.

00:28:21.880 Get folks safe.

00:28:22.920 But let's also be real with each other.

00:28:25.440 This is the world that climate-denying conservatism will leave our children.

00:28:30.160 There it is.

00:28:31.800 There it is.

00:28:32.240 A liberal MP.

00:28:33.660 He's got a...

00:28:34.180 Hey, we really care.

00:28:35.780 Hey, I've never been to Jasper.

00:28:37.500 I couldn't find it on a map.

00:28:39.280 I've never been to Alberta.

00:28:40.920 I sort of hate Albertans because you guys are right-wing.

00:28:43.500 But let me just say, get folks safe.

00:28:45.560 You guys say folks a lot out there, right?

00:28:47.640 Okay, now that I've had a perfunctory get folks safe, let me use climate-denying, climate change, climate existential threat.

00:28:57.520 Super gross.

00:28:58.840 I took a screenshot of this because I thought they would order him to take it down.

00:29:03.020 No.

00:29:03.660 This is their talking point.

00:29:06.060 I know this sounds like...

00:29:07.640 It justifies everything that Canadians are now getting their backs up against.

00:29:14.120 You've probably talked about this already, but last week, the Fraser Institute conducted a study, released a study, where it estimated that the cost of the liberal green mandates, electric vehicles, net zero power grids, and on and on and on, the cost to an average Canadian family by about 2035 is going to be $6,700 a year.

00:29:38.620 That's how expensive these are.

00:29:40.640 And so they have to find a way to...

00:29:44.480 People are backing away from buying EVs.

00:29:47.460 There was an announcement just this morning that an EV battery plant in eastern Ontario, at cost of about $3 billion, is now being put on hold indefinitely, probably forever, because the market's just not there.

00:30:01.800 So they have all of these cultish environmental goals that they still support, that they're still obsessed with, and they have to justify it.

00:30:12.120 And one of the ways they're going to try and justify all of this is to say, look, look, see how bad Jasper was?

00:30:17.960 See how bad Lytton, B.C. was in 2021?

00:30:20.640 See how awful Fort McMurray was back in 2016?

00:30:23.600 See, Waterton National Parks in 2007, which most people forget about, had a very similar sort of fire.

00:30:31.460 It came towards the town.

00:30:33.540 It destroyed part of the town.

00:30:34.760 But it's, again, because of Parks Canada's refusal to thin out the forests, to manage the forests, because it's not, that's not the natural way.

00:30:46.660 That's not the eco way.

00:30:47.940 So that's what I think is largely responsible for the Jasper fire.

00:30:53.840 And it's interesting, because there's a deputy minister, a retired deputy minister from Alberta, who's writing in the Edmonton Journal today, who says exactly the same thing.

00:31:02.040 He said, we begged them for years to deal with it, because we could see that it was going to start all sorts of major forest fires.

00:31:08.980 There was a 2018 study by two longtime forest consultants in B.C., both of whom are quite green in their beliefs.

00:31:19.440 But they both said in 2018, you're going to have what they called a mega fire if you don't do something about this.

00:31:26.560 And they said it would be a catastrophe.

00:31:28.920 Well, their prediction has come true.

00:31:31.700 You know what?

00:31:32.280 I'm not sure how dark their hearts are.

00:31:36.160 It wouldn't surprise me if some gurus and strategists in the Liberal Party said, we want a mega fire as the final proof point, as the final talking point.

00:31:47.400 I mean, this tweet I read to you by a liberal from Ontario, it feels a little bit like the Westboro Baptist Church.

00:31:53.620 I don't know if you remember, about 20 years ago, those guys would send protesters to the funerals of soldiers with signs saying things like, God hates fags.

00:32:03.100 That's what the signs would say.

00:32:05.400 And they would have protests at human funerals for soldiers.

00:32:10.120 It was so gross.

00:32:11.720 They would celebrate the funerals.

00:32:14.300 When I see liberals with orgasmic glee talking about climate change whenever there's human suffering, I get the same creepy vibe.

00:32:24.340 I don't know.

00:32:24.840 I'm glad you say there's not any reports of death or injury.

00:32:29.400 That's good.

00:32:30.100 And I'm glad that iconic places like the Jasper Park Lodge can be saved.

00:32:34.680 And I just hope that these fires can be put out quickly.

00:32:40.080 And it's not, you know, they will come.

00:32:43.480 Fires will come.

00:32:44.220 They must come.

00:32:45.320 They will come.

00:32:46.540 And I get the feeling that it was exactly as you diagnosed it.

00:32:52.560 You had a bunch of-

00:32:53.340 As enormous as the Fort McMurray fire was in 2016, it is still not the largest forest fire in modern Alberta history.

00:33:03.060 That was one in the 1950s, up in the northwest corner of the province where there wasn't much population at the time.

00:33:10.000 And they hadn't even started an awful lot of oil and gas exploration up there at that point.

00:33:15.280 So there was nothing for many hundreds of kilometers.

00:33:19.180 And it was about 40% bigger than the Fort McMurray fire.

00:33:24.080 You know, it happens.

00:33:26.340 And to his great credit, Tristan Hopper at the National Post did a survey of what's called fire history in the Canadian forests last year.

00:33:38.200 And found that prior to 1900, forests in Canada burnt at a much higher rate and consumed much more land of, like, forest mass than they do now.

00:33:49.840 And that human settlement into the forests has actually made them burn far less.

00:33:58.320 But, you know, this I think we're going to find, if we're very honest about it, was human-caused.

00:34:03.560 It was caused by the bureaucratic eco-mentality at Parks Canada.

00:34:07.340 Right. Well, listen, great to catch up with you on this.

00:34:10.780 Thanks for giving us the inside track.

00:34:12.500 Again, folks, the column is called Jasper Blaze Exposes Possible Flaws in Parks Canada Wildfire Strategy.

00:34:19.440 And that's in the Edmonton Sun.

00:34:20.640 Great to see you, my friend.

00:34:21.460 Thanks for taking the time.

00:34:22.280 I don't know if you remember, but a year ago we had a wonderful trip to Israel where we took dozens of our most enthusiastic rebel viewers.

00:34:40.920 It was a beautiful utopian time when Israel had a peace agreement with a bunch of Arab countries. 0.78

00:34:47.520 And we went to Israel for a week, and then we went to the United Arab Emirates.

00:34:51.860 And it was so hopeful and wonderful.

00:34:54.600 I loved it.

00:34:55.460 And we came back, and then a month and a half later, the Hamas terrorist attack that's thrown the whole region into flames. 0.86

00:35:03.600 Well, we're going back.

00:35:04.780 We're having another Israel trip.

00:35:06.940 But this time, it's an Israel solidarity mission to look at Israel and to be where Hamas attacked and to learn what happened and to help.

00:35:15.380 It's not going to be a fun trip, but it'll be a meaningful trip.

00:35:19.860 It'll be an eye-opening trip, an educational trip, a trip that you'll never forget.

00:35:23.880 So please consider joining Avi Amini, Joel Pollack, and myself for the Israel solidarity mission that's coming up in November.

00:35:31.880 That's our show for today.

00:35:33.340 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

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