Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Henry Nowak's death becomes Britain's George Floyd moment — but in reverse

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, there's been a big case of racial injustice in the United Kingdom,

00:00:05.240 but I bet you haven't heard about it if your news sources are the CBC or the Globe and

00:00:09.580 Mail or CNN.

00:00:11.320 It's the case of a white man who was murdered by a Sikh man who actually used his ceremonial 0.91

00:00:16.680 dagger, the kurpan. 0.73

00:00:18.200 It's very rare for that to happen, but they murdered, he murdered this white guy. 0.99

00:00:22.500 And when the police came, they assumed the white guy who was dying of his stab wounds 0.89

00:00:27.380 was the criminal because he was white. 0.87

00:00:29.320 So, of course, he was the oppressor. 0.69

00:00:31.260 It's a crazy case, and we'll go deep with it with Jack Hadfield.

00:00:35.640 But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.

00:00:38.600 It's the video version of this podcast.

00:00:41.500 In my interview with Jack, I show the body cam footage of the police.

00:00:44.920 It's actually tough to watch, but I would encourage you to do so.

00:00:48.980 Just get the video version of the show at rebelnewsplus.com, and you're all set.

00:00:59.320 Tonight, two-tier justice based on race.

00:01:13.020 We'll give you the latest from the United Kingdom, the United States, and here in Canada.

00:01:17.720 It's June 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:20.160 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:23.260 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.87

00:01:29.320 Oh, hi everybody. As you may know, I am banned from entering the United Kingdom. I'm suing the 0.75

00:01:40.500 home office because the way they went about it was illegal. By the way, I believe that countries 1.00

00:01:45.320 have an inherent right to have borders and to keep out people they don't like. But the United

00:01:49.840 Kingdom has a rule of law and they used a baseless reason to keep me out, namely my politics. I'm

00:01:57.240 obviously not violent. I'm obviously not someone who leans on their welfare system or any of the

00:02:03.160 reasons why people are typically kicked out of the UK. In fact, very few people are kicked out

00:02:08.280 of the UK. As you know, little boats come across from France all the time. So I can't go there

00:02:13.840 myself, but today I have an in-depth conversation with our friend Jack Hadfield, who I think is one

00:02:19.020 of the best citizen journalists in the UK. We're talking about a crazy case, a heartbreaking case

00:02:24.460 of a young Sikh man who used his ceremonial kerpan dagger to murder a kid, a white kid, 0.91

00:02:33.600 half British, half Polish, named Henry Novak. And when the police came, they immediately assumed

00:02:41.960 the white kid was the oppressor and the criminal and the Sikh was the victim and the actual stabbing 0.72

00:02:51.900 victim. The white kid bled to death, his last words being, I can't breathe, reminiscent of 0.99

00:02:57.680 George Floyd's last words. It has ignited a debate in the United Kingdom over race-based policing,

00:03:05.660 which the UK police admit to. This is not a false accusation or even one that they refute. They say,

00:03:13.820 yes, we have a diversity approach. We have a community cohesion approach. They've done that

00:03:20.180 thing where they replaced the word equality, treating people equally with equity, which is,

00:03:26.780 you know, different strokes for different folks. And in this case, the white kid was murdered and

00:03:31.880 police did not believe he was. They assumed he was the oppressor. Pretty gross. In Canada,

00:03:39.020 we have not yet begun to reckon with our DEI race-based systems in everything from policing

00:03:46.840 to hiring. It is completely commonplace in every province, including in the freer provinces like

00:03:53.660 Alberta and Ontario, to see racial qualifications on help wanted ads, especially for academia

00:04:00.500 and for government institutions. There's just no bones about it. They don't even pretend. And they

00:04:05.880 could theoretically say that Section 15 of our Charter of Rights permits it. I remember in law

00:04:12.300 school learning about Section 15, and I was appalled by it. Section 15.1 says you can't

00:04:18.200 discriminate against people based on age or sex or race, things like that. Sounds pretty good.

00:04:24.560 And this is, of course, the law governing the government. But Section 15.2 immediately thereafter

00:04:30.500 says, unless it's for the ameliorization of historically marginalized groups, that is,

00:04:37.020 they say no racism is allowed except for people who can say that historically they've been picked

00:04:43.360 on. But of course, that's interpreted to mean just what we talked about in the UK.

00:04:48.060 Certain privileged ethnic groups get special treatment. That is the law in Canada actually

00:04:54.260 hardwired into our charter. It's appalling. And one of the grossest part of our constitution,

00:04:58.360 you see it in court rulings every week where someone is given a lower sentence because of

00:05:04.560 their indigenous past. These days, we see more and more migrants being given lower sentences by

00:05:09.860 judges specifically to stop them from being sent home and deported. The United States really went

00:05:17.200 hard on this racial quota system. They did it in the universities, but recently court cases have

00:05:23.540 thrown out that DEI system. And the Trump administration has appointed actually a friend

00:05:29.180 of Rebel News, Harmeet Dillon, to be their assistant attorney general in charge of civil

00:05:35.420 rights. And one of the main things that Harmeet Dillon and her office are doing are going after

00:05:40.820 these racial set-asides. I guess my point is the UK, because of this horrific incident

00:05:45.840 and several like it, is finally having a conversation about race-based two-tier systems,

00:05:52.400 especially in their police and legal system. The UK has had this battle, sorry, the US has had this

00:05:57.920 battle, including in the courts. And now the Trump administration is fighting to end racial

00:06:02.380 preferences. Only Canada stuck in an earlier era where reverse discrimination was somehow allowed.

00:06:09.200 It's a bizarre thing, especially in majority minority places like Toronto, Vancouver,

00:06:15.360 places like Brampton that are almost 90% visible minority. In fact, wouldn't it be accurate to say

00:06:21.580 that white people in Brampton are a minority? When you hear the phrase diversity is our strength,

00:06:27.340 I never really believed it.

00:06:28.460 But of course, diversity doesn't mean diverse at all, does it?

00:06:31.600 Not these days.

00:06:33.040 Anyhow, that's a bit of a preamble.

00:06:34.600 Without further ado, here's my interview with Jack Hatfield.

00:06:46.800 One of the quirks about the British legal system that I find very frustrating

00:06:50.540 and that I think is frustrating for any news reporter and any news consumer.

00:06:55.840 In fact, I think it is contrary to the interests of the British public, is that in most cases, there is a publication ban on anything that happens in a crime until the trial is over and the sentence is issued.

00:07:10.300 So you can have reporters covering the most heinous trials, but they're just typing notes that they save until the trial is over.

00:07:17.900 Whereas in Canada and the United States, there's continuous reporting, daily reporting.

00:07:23.160 There may be occasional instances of a publication ban for a very specific purpose.

00:07:28.360 For example, if there's a young child involved to keep the child's identity confidential.

00:07:34.200 Instead of sequestering the jury, that's what we call it in Canada, where the jury itself is told, don't read the newspapers, don't talk to people.

00:07:43.300 the UK takes a strange approach, at least from my point of view, where they sequester the whole

00:07:49.000 country, where no one is allowed to know. And so massive, horrific trials that would have a daily

00:07:55.920 news value, it really becomes dumped all at once. And such is the case of the sad and terrible end

00:08:02.540 of a young British man named Henry Novak, about whom we now know what happened to him actually

00:08:09.300 last year and i don't want to try and retell this story i want to go straight to our friend jack

00:08:14.200 hadfield in the united kingdom because this story has been gripping the uk jack great to see you

00:08:19.900 welcome back to the program this is also a quirk that means these enormous rape gang trials where

00:08:27.460 day after day there's horrific evidence the british reporters are not allowed to talk about

00:08:32.680 these trials until the very end which i think minimizes the scrutiny but that quirk aside tell

00:08:38.240 us what happened to henry novak who was he and how did he die yes so henry novak uh was an 18

00:08:46.980 year old half polish half english um british university student who encountered uh last year

00:08:54.720 one vikram digwa um and there was some altercation between the two seemingly footage of a uh of of

00:09:04.880 of Henry jokingly calling Vikram Diggwa a bad man and Diggram responding yes yes I am and then we

00:09:12.580 have no idea what actually prompted then Vikram Diggwa to stab Henry to death um where he then

00:09:20.700 bled out uh in front of his home with his parents with his mother allegedly hiding the knife his

00:09:25.980 father telling seemingly telling police uh that he was simply just collapsed and just fell over a

00:09:31.920 his brother um actually will um his brother called the police in a 999 call uh and said

00:09:40.540 uh that they were racially assaulted um by a white man yeah let's listen to that uh 909 call

00:09:47.560 that's their version of a 911 call this is courtesy of gb news police emergency yeah we've just been

00:09:55.240 attacked by someone racially. Yeah, this f***er. He just attacked it. Sorry, we just got attacked 0.99

00:10:07.040 racially by some white person. Right, okay. Whereabouts are you? We're on Belmont Road. 0.89

00:10:14.400 Just out in the street, are you? Sorry? You're just in the street? Yeah, literally. I just

00:10:20.460 parked on my car to come home, and he attacked my brother. 0.71

00:10:22.860 So what happened is a Sikh man stabbed to death,

00:10:28.160 a white man, British, Polish man, and used his kirpan,

00:10:32.300 which is the ceremonial dagger that many Sikhs carry.

00:10:35.480 Now, this is quite rare because that is a ceremonial dagger

00:10:38.320 carried for religious purposes.

00:10:40.180 It's not meant to be a weapon, but in this horrific case,

00:10:43.380 it was used as a weapon.

00:10:44.720 But the family immediately came to the aid of the murderer

00:10:48.540 family member and lied.

00:10:50.460 claimed that it was Henry Novak who was the racist,

00:10:53.760 sort of flipped the story on its head,

00:10:57.260 and when the British police responded,

00:10:59.760 they treated the dying Henry Novak

00:11:03.160 as not just the criminal, but the hate criminal,

00:11:05.960 and they refused to believe him, refused to hear him,

00:11:09.060 refused to help him.

00:11:11.060 Tell us a little bit more about what happened when police came 0.96

00:11:14.960 with their mindset that, oh, we've got a white racist who hates Sikhs, 0.86

00:11:18.860 when in fact it was the reverse that was true what happened yes well the shocking body cam

00:11:24.820 footage uh of the arrest of henry novak was released this week following uh vicaran digua's

00:11:32.280 guilty verdict on monday now just a quick aside on that he was given life with a minimum sentence

00:11:38.220 of 21 years actually again reduced by the judge because of his supposedly young age he's 23 you

00:11:45.200 You know, I don't know if this is surely not past the age of maturity to committing brutal murders, but you got two years knocked off just for that.

00:11:52.620 Absolutely astounding. But yes, if in this body cam footage, which is frankly quite disturbing, but has been viewed by many, many people and and rightfully so, because they need to see what happens.

00:12:03.200 The police come to the house, which I actually just saw just yesterday, the protest I went to, I'm sure we'll get into later, where Henry is lying on the ground.

00:12:14.620 the father tells the police that he's fallen fallen over a fence and henry goes you know i've

00:12:20.400 been stabbed i've been stabbed and the officer while handcuffing him the male officer responds

00:12:27.560 with the words which have now you know certainly rocketed around not just britain but i think the

00:12:32.400 world i don't think you have been mate not sir mate just that that incredible response um as the

00:12:41.620 as Vikram Diggler claimed, oh, I've got a black guy,

00:12:45.080 I've been slightly bruised, he's attacked me.

00:12:47.460 Frankly, if someone's claiming that they've been stabbed,

00:12:50.340 I think that's more worth checking out first immediately

00:12:54.300 rather than arresting them, don't you?

00:12:56.760 Just incredible.

00:12:58.200 And like you say, the whole family came to take part

00:13:02.300 in the deception.

00:13:04.540 It can't be a clearer image.

00:13:08.600 It's like a mirror image of George Floyd six years ago, almost exactly, who, by the way, had dirty hands, as they say.

00:13:17.900 He was a drug user, a drug dealer, a serial criminal.

00:13:21.100 He was extremely high.

00:13:23.280 I'm not saying that George Floyd should have died by any stretch of the imagination, but he was not an innocent dove.

00:13:29.580 The police, though, were white and Asian, and it was called a racist killing.

00:13:34.980 and it radicalized race politics in america and indeed around the world what was so strange

00:13:39.860 is to see politicians everywhere around the world jump on the george floyd bandwagon even though it

00:13:45.020 was a very specific it had no international ramifications other than it was sort of a

00:13:49.940 political moment i remember in canada justin trudeau this was early in the pandemic when

00:13:54.800 everyone was told to stay indoors don't congregate in crowds he went out um into a massive black

00:14:01.580 Lives Matter rally in Canada. We didn't have any slavery in Canada, by the way. We don't have the

00:14:06.380 same race problems as they have in the United States, thankfully. We have a different history. 1.00

00:14:10.140 We have our own problems. But Justin Trudeau went out to take a knee, which became the physical

00:14:15.940 symbol. Sort of a replacement. There are religious gestures. There's the, you know, to make the sign

00:14:22.580 of the cross. There's, you know, the Jews have their symbols. Many religions have their symbols. 0.78

00:14:26.980 the religion or the cult of george floyd was to take a knee justin trudeau did so police forces

00:14:32.340 around the world did so even british politicians including keir starmer did so the entire u.s

00:14:39.520 democratic senate contingent did so um that's because i think political correctness says

00:14:46.020 if you are white you are of course the oppressor if you're a minority of course you're the oppressed

00:14:51.680 and i think that's maybe what happened here would you say jack is that the police have been so 0.92

00:14:56.460 indoctrinated that racism comes from white people not from people of color and so they they were

00:15:04.680 derisory towards this white guy he was dying he was bleeding they wouldn't even check if he was

00:15:09.600 stabbed because of course that's unthinkable to them this is really a shocking reverse george

00:15:14.420 floyd isn't it yeah it is precisely that and one thing that again links them to is is both of their

00:15:21.320 last words were i can't breathe um again it's just seeing that on on the body cam footage from

00:15:28.880 uh from henry's final moments as he's being read his rights and arrested is just again something

00:15:34.780 that has um stirred something and i think many many british people but um keir starmer again as

00:15:40.940 you said you know took the need for george floyd but it's completely denied that there is two-tier

00:15:45.660 policing in this country and i think frankly it is obvious to me that these uh cases are true if

00:15:54.280 you look at axel rudikabana in southport the police did not uh go after him because he was black 0.82

00:16:02.400 the manchester arena bomber he was not chased afterwards because he was muslim uh libyan i

00:16:08.180 believe the pakistani grooming gangs these people were not chased after again because of racism

00:16:14.600 fears um post george floyd the and obviously actually post many other reports the mcpherson

00:16:20.120 report following the death of stephen lawrence in the 90s the casey report they've all claimed that

00:16:25.700 um the police should instead focus uh on on on treating white brits and ethnic minorities

00:16:34.360 differently in fact they should they deliberately not using a race blind policy because that does

00:16:40.500 not treat people equally the hampshire police's race action plan uh which was published just a

00:16:46.080 few years ago which was based on uh the death of george floyd which again is something that happened

00:16:50.840 in this country um implies that you must treat minorities better than white brits and all of this

00:16:59.640 anti-racist um policies which have been um implemented have in fact been anti-white that

00:17:08.000 as a result of this henry novak was treated like a criminal and arrested purely because he was

00:17:14.320 white now i don't think uh from what we can tell in the court reports i don't think it was possible

00:17:19.980 even if the police had immediately acted for them to save him because they came here too late

00:17:25.260 however if they had come here earlier and performed the exact same actions in my opinion i think in

00:17:33.880 that instance it's entirely possible they would have been responsible for letting him die so i

00:17:38.500 don't think we should let them get away with the fact that they just happened to turn up there late

00:17:42.320 and therefore they wouldn't have made a difference anyway those actions could have in a different

00:17:47.980 scenario been responsible for his death so i i think we know you we need to look firmly focused

00:17:54.080 on uh the anti-white uh nature institutionally of the police and niad faraj uh in an emergency

00:18:00.440 message um posted to social media uh just yesterday yesterday morning uh wednesday morning

00:18:06.520 um said exactly that yeah you know i want to show some of that body cam footage so let me give a

00:18:12.920 viewer discretion warning uh it's you know there's some visuals but it's even just the

00:18:19.280 the absolutely pitiful when you know what the truth is when you know that a man is dying it's

00:18:25.360 shocking so if you have a gentle constitution maybe mute uh for the next minute i'm not going

00:18:31.100 to play the whole thing but here's a here's a portion of that body cam footage again viewer

00:18:35.520 discretion strongly advised he was on the bin on the other side of this he's jumped over these

00:18:40.300 fences and stuff like that and he's obviously he's fallen from there he's slipped from there

00:18:46.660 There's other shoes left over there mate.

00:18:48.460 What's your name mate?

00:18:49.460 Up here.

00:18:50.260 Huh?

00:18:53.560 Has anyone been hurt other than him?

00:18:55.260 Yeah, me.

00:18:56.260 He's grabbed my brother.

00:18:57.260 He's took my turban off, so I grabbed on my head.

00:18:59.260 Are you injured?

00:19:00.160 Yeah, yeah, I've got swollen eye, a little bruise.

00:19:02.460 Alright, just step back a little bit for me.

00:19:04.460 Someone flagged these down.

00:19:09.460 Alright, let's get you out of there, shall we?

00:19:13.260 I was in bed to sleep.

00:19:14.460 Grab his other arm.

00:19:22.460 What's happened to you, right?

00:19:25.460 You've been stabbed.

00:19:27.460 You've been stabbed? Whereabouts?

00:19:29.460 I don't think you have, mate.

00:19:37.460 Hand.

00:19:41.460 Put the hand in the cuff, mate.

00:19:43.460 Yeah.

00:19:43.960 I'm off.

00:19:45.960 Boy.

00:19:46.460 This is the...

00:19:47.460 I'm off me!

00:19:48.460 I'm off me!

00:19:49.460 I'm off me!

00:19:50.460 I'm off me!

00:19:51.460 Can we get him out?

00:19:52.460 I'm off me.

00:19:53.460 I'm off me!

00:19:54.460 I'm off me!

00:19:55.460 I'm off me!

00:19:58.460 I'm off me!

00:20:02.460 Sandy's been stabbed, so let's just check him.

00:20:04.460 Where do you think you've been stabbed?

00:20:05.460 In the face?

00:20:06.460 In the face?

00:20:07.460 Oh no, but we have to check, don't we?

00:20:09.460 No.

00:20:10.460 In the face?

00:20:11.460 Just get these to back off, get their details on that and I'll keep hold of them.

00:20:20.460 Keep you on your side mate.

00:20:22.460 You've got to read Reef then.

00:20:25.460 Same to him, keeping him on his side.

00:20:28.460 We were sat up when we had him here but he didn't like it.

00:20:31.460 What's your name mate?

00:20:34.460 By the moment you are under arrest and that's for assault so you do not have to say anything.

00:20:37.460 anything may harm the defence if you do not mention when questioned so I'll switch you later

00:20:40.840 in line of court anything you do say may be given an evidence all right it's gonna be sick I think

00:20:45.960 yeah um we've got this male he's just been beat up um are we able to get an ambulance

00:21:07.440 These pupils aren't even reacting. 0.68

00:21:14.440 Well, there's been a lot of these race-based moments in the UK.

00:21:19.420 I remember in Southport, there was a, you mentioned Axel Rubin,

00:21:22.340 that was the young black extremist, child of refugees, by the way,

00:21:27.640 who went on a stabbing spree at a children's Taylor Swift party. 0.99

00:21:33.320 Like, you couldn't be more evil to target young girls

00:21:36.880 and there were riots in response and it's because i think people realize that there's 0.96

00:21:44.580 two-tier justice people sick of violent migrants who are clearly bogus refugees

00:21:50.560 really no one in the uk is a legitimate refugee or very few because they come over by boat from

00:21:56.980 france france is not a dangerous place it's a basic tenet of law that refugees have to seek

00:22:03.020 refuge in the first country they attend. They can't forum shop. I once met a migrant in Sweden 1.00

00:22:11.200 who had been to five other countries. He was shopping around for the best deal he could get.

00:22:15.600 He found it in Sweden. By the way, he had wives in other cities as well. That's an old story.

00:22:21.080 But I think that a number of Brits have had enough. And Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe with

00:22:29.940 restore party i think there are people who are who are responding and respecting the viewers

00:22:37.380 and i think nigel farage is getting stronger every day rupert lowe is sort of a splittist

00:22:42.640 who used to be there i don't know give us a little bit of the politics of this you don't

00:22:47.660 want to politicize a murder but it is a very political murder as much as george floyd was

00:22:53.680 and you don't want to exacerbate race relations but you want to fix them tell me how this has

00:22:59.120 changed UK politics, Jack? Well, just looking between those two, Farage and Lowe, I should

00:23:05.220 kind of make it obvious that I'm a reform party member. I fully back Farage and most of the stuff

00:23:10.240 and I really am not a fan of Restore for splitting the right in that way. But again, so take my

00:23:17.540 opinions, obviously, with the pinch of salt that comes with that disclosure before it. But I would

00:23:22.700 say i think if you look at how these two responded farage has focused primarily uh on the response

00:23:29.760 and actions of the police and realizing that yes the police are full of um anti-white racism you

00:23:38.000 know anti-racism that is against white people farage has been saying white lives matter just

00:23:43.980 as much as black lives um and you know putting that really front and foremost in here is the

00:23:49.740 actual real issue that is revealed from this as opposed to i think now so they are looking also

00:23:56.920 to do a kirpan ban um which is obviously the the religious knives remove the religious exemption

00:24:02.340 for that remove religious exemptions for all cultural knives i think it's the right thing to

00:24:06.280 do um but low has been focusing primarily on that along with uh wanting to re-institute the death

00:24:12.780 penalty um after a referendum which you know if you win an election you can just do that without

00:24:17.540 referendum anyway because it's not a constitutional issue um but i think that the the that that's been

00:24:23.440 the two lines of thought kind of on the right and i'm more in nigel's point in that i think the

00:24:29.160 it's the institutions that you know these things which really do affect everyone on a day-to-day

00:24:33.660 basis versus sort of framing this as a sort of seek community issue more focusing on the actions

00:24:42.380 of the killer rather than i think frankly the more shocking stuff which is the actions

00:24:46.600 of the police um yeah but i do think the Sikh community is probably also fairly like taken a

00:24:53.840 hit from this as i think they were one of the more respected communities in terms of the ethnic

00:24:58.780 minority groups within britain uh but there's there's been a few people who have been defending

00:25:06.160 it a little bit and certainly i think there was a statement that came out from a Sikh community

00:25:10.200 group which seemed to imply still that we are we weren't sure whether henry actually was racially

00:25:16.060 abusing uh digwa at any point even though this has proved to be false in the court a few other

00:25:22.620 things here and there and the seeks a lot of them um getting mad about the kirpan ban well frankly

00:25:28.480 if your religion means that you have to carry a massive knife around with you that can be used 0.59

00:25:33.520 to kill someone um either you know you have to stop doing that or you're free to practice religion

00:25:38.660 somewhere else it's not my country i don't know there was a i think there was a there's been a

00:25:42.540 bit of debate about whether this technically classifies the kerpan and this killing but i

00:25:46.680 know for example in canada just a few years ago i think it was 2023 there was a man killed with a

00:25:52.440 kerpan for telling a man to stop vaping in his baby's face i think and that footage again um

00:25:59.180 reasserted itself uh just the other day um yeah i think we should have a total um there should be

00:26:06.360 no exceptions for religious or cultural reasons i think the scots have said oh you know we carry

00:26:11.360 a knife in our in our kilts and i was like you know what sorry let's let's be fair on this

00:26:15.280 you know they've all got to go you can't carry a you can't carry knives around you know i have a 1.00

00:26:20.460 slightly different position on this than the new jack uh i think that the number of sikhs in the

00:26:26.480 world who carry a kirpan compared to the number of times it's clearly abused misused and used as

00:26:32.000 weapon it's so rare it's staggeringly rare you would think that it would happen all the time 0.99

00:26:38.740 because there are an enormous number of Sikhs 1.00

00:26:41.180 who do carry those daggers.

00:26:43.400 I've even met Sikh people wearing an actual sword,

00:26:47.640 which is sort of startling when you see it.

00:26:51.260 I read a statement from some British Sikhs,

00:26:54.920 maybe it's the same one you referred to,

00:26:56.760 that did condemn this,

00:26:58.460 which is something you never see 0.96

00:27:00.080 when there's a Muslim terrorist attack, 0.94

00:27:02.120 or at least extremely rarely. 1.00

00:27:03.540 So I think Faraj's right to focus on the police 0.83

00:27:06.320 as opposed to one terrible murderer who happened to be Sikh and used the dagger for that reason. 0.71

00:27:13.920 So I think I'm more, I don't think the problem is Sikhism, Sikhs, or even the Kirpan.

00:27:21.480 Obviously, in this case, it was used horrifically, but I honestly think that is so, so rare.

00:27:27.260 And Sikhs are, I just don't think that that's the center of the problem.

00:27:32.680 I think the center of the problem is the police who are trained to see color.

00:27:38.180 They're not race blind.

00:27:39.620 They're the opposite. 0.97

00:27:40.880 And they're the mirror image of racists in the past who would always assume, well, if you're black or brown, you're the criminal. 0.85

00:27:47.420 And I think we've just flipped racism on a set. 0.95

00:27:50.280 Anyway, you and I can disagree on Sikhs.

00:27:52.560 But I think that the problem is, as Nadja Farage says, a two-tier policing.

00:27:55.780 um after the south southport murder of those little girls there were riots there were protests

00:28:04.020 in recent days over henry novak and our old friend young bob the uh citizen journalist was

00:28:10.640 there as he always is or where there's action there's young bob here's a clip of some of his

00:28:15.040 footage um of people just fed up take a look 0.98

00:28:19.340 Scum! Scum! Scum! Scum! 1.00

00:28:22.340 Scum! Scum! Scum! 1.00

00:28:27.340 That was completely unnecessary! 1.00

00:28:29.340 Oh, you fucking attack! 1.00

00:28:30.340 In a fucking fight! 1.00

00:28:33.340 Careful, careful! 1.00

00:28:38.340 You fucking cunt! 1.00

00:28:39.340 You fucking cunt! 1.00

00:28:41.340 You alright, love? You okay? 1.00

00:28:42.340 You alright, you okay?

00:28:43.340 You okay?

00:28:44.340 Are you sure?

00:28:45.340 Safe on it, safe on it!

00:28:46.340 Alright, good.

00:28:49.340 Hey, Jack, Keir Starmer is, by some reports, the least popular Prime Minister in British history.

00:29:06.660 That might be overstating things, but at least, let's say, in recent history, he's despised.

00:29:12.000 you can see that his vote melting away in council elections or special by elections

00:29:19.680 some of it's bleeding to the left to the green party which is an interesting combination of

00:29:24.980 islamism and socialism a lot of it's moving to the reform party and some to the harder line

00:29:30.740 restore party is nigel farage on track to be prime minister i think the answer there is yes

00:29:36.920 according to the polls. Do you think there's going to be an election sooner than the prescribed date

00:29:43.140 of, I think, what, 2029? Yeah, currently, yes, he is on track to be prime minister. And this

00:29:50.460 will come down all the way down to the maker field by election. That's what we discussed

00:29:55.120 previously. But interestingly, looking at that now, Andy Burnham, he's obviously running there

00:30:00.380 for Labour, in which case, and if he wins, he'll definitely become the next Labour leader. If he

00:30:06.280 does that he's far more likely to call an election um early on now he hasn't said a single thing

00:30:13.100 about henry novak and i think this is his first big mess up of the campaign uh even you know ed

00:30:20.500 david leader of the liberal democrats who is now basically a pointless party there is no reason to

00:30:25.320 vote the lib dems unless you're a rich white liberal in southwest london or devon um even he

00:30:32.440 said something about this and i frankly think this is this isn't an issue which is really

00:30:36.220 hit at the heartstrings people in this country and certainly would do in makerfield so it's

00:30:40.800 entirely possible now um again i think with with with restore not going after the main police

00:30:47.140 things which is again i agree with you as the main the main thrust of this i think it's very

00:30:52.080 very possible now i think the numbers have jumped up in likelihood of reform getting it in makerfield

00:30:57.080 In which case, Burnham doesn't become a prime minister.

00:31:01.600 Starmer is most likely then to survive any challenge against him by West Street or Angela Rayner, who he beats.

00:31:07.280 And Starmer is not going to call an early election.

00:31:10.660 The whole early election thing will come down to the Makerfield by-election.

00:31:15.240 It's now possible that a Makerfield by-election comes down to the reaction of politicians on this tragic Henry Novak murder.

00:31:24.080 Make your field by-election. You know, I certainly would be traveling over there to cover that. I've covered several by-elections in the UK. Very interesting. But alas, I am on the home office's bad boy list, as you know. My electronic travel authorization was rescinded with no explanation other than the generic and vague statement that it's not in the interest of the British people to have me over.

00:31:47.820 Even though I've traveled to the UK probably two dozen times in recent years.

00:31:51.740 And that makes me sad because there's so many interesting things that I enjoyed covering as a journalist.

00:31:56.140 And I know that a lot of my videos from the UK received hundreds of thousands or even millions of views.

00:32:01.720 Jack, maybe if you cover the Makerfield by-election, which I think is going to be a pivotal one,

00:32:05.760 maybe you can give us a report afterwards to let us know how it goes.

00:32:09.420 Last question to you about the media.

00:32:10.860 I haven't checked today, but as of yesterday, it appeared that the New York Times, which their unofficial motto is all the news that's fit to print, had not mentioned this case at all.

00:32:24.600 Even though it's really riled up a lot of the UK, it's become a real point of debate.

00:32:30.820 It's a major story.

00:32:32.640 It's a racial story. 1.00

00:32:34.100 It's a murder story. 0.94

00:32:35.640 It's interesting people, interesting react.

00:32:38.400 Like by every measure, it is newsworthy, even the body cams, even the statement like this is the definition of news.

00:32:45.460 And they're just having like a boycott of the story.

00:32:51.580 They're there. It may be different today.

00:32:54.620 I haven't checked them today, but I do not think that they've covered it.

00:32:57.940 How has this been covered in the UK, including on the BBC, which is one of the most channels around?

00:33:06.320 have people been trying to carry water for the police have they been trying to blame the deceased

00:33:13.400 victim uh or has this clarified uh or have woke media actually said this was wrong give me give

00:33:20.860 me a report on uk media yeah so in terms of the british media obviously it's impossible for

00:33:26.700 anybody to ignore this um i think because it's such an obvious brutal murder there's been

00:33:31.920 no real uh sympathy for the murder at all and all simply for henry novak's family but

00:33:37.920 i do think it is true that that some of the media is holding water for the police as the use of went

00:33:44.300 on uh beauty radio for just yesterday and there again yeah starting uh the debate from again the

00:33:51.860 point where the police are not institutionally uh anti-white he went on with kathy newman

00:33:56.960 and you know tried to get her to say white lives matter too um but you know she refused to say this

00:34:03.380 uh she she the the the media of course is focusing on uh not calling this which the protest which i i

00:34:11.780 was there with young bob in southampton which was a four three to four thousand people turned up

00:34:17.920 but they marched from one police station to another two miles um most of the crowd went away

00:34:23.020 and only a small fraction of a small fraction of people

00:34:25.080 actually engaged in violence against the police

00:34:27.160 they then framed that as violent protests

00:34:29.420 when of course with BLM etc

00:34:30.920 they phrased it as mostly peaceful

00:34:32.700 this wasn't actually mostly peaceful

00:34:34.980 protest and that is of course

00:34:36.640 the framing that the media is doing

00:34:38.160 the framing the protest as being completely

00:34:40.280 violent, angry, far right

00:34:42.960 thugs as per usual

00:34:44.460 when of course the majority of people there were to peacefully

00:34:46.800 protest and then framing

00:34:48.820 you know the fact that there is no

00:34:50.440 two-tier policing

00:34:51.940 I will say frankly it's shocking that no sort of leftist media establishment in the United States have really even touched on this because I've seen I've not seen so much interaction with American media outlets being slightly non-establishment media with my content than I've seen from any of the asylum hotel protests coverage I did last year.

00:35:15.860 i've had so many people reaching out to me um who i've never have done on you know from various

00:35:21.780 other american right-wing media outlets so the fact that there is getting so much attention

00:35:26.360 uh just from one side uh of the u.s you think at the very least um the uh the democrats media

00:35:33.400 outlets at least even cover it uh at some point you know not trying to sort of blow it up but at

00:35:37.940 least have something on it so to have this entire wall of silence you know it would really make you

00:35:43.420 think um what is the raison d'etre for these outlets to begin with you know it reminds me of

00:35:50.600 a terrible case last year in the united states the murder of a ukrainian refugee actually a

00:35:56.200 beautiful young woman named irina zarutska and uh again covered caught on i think she was riding on

00:36:03.940 public transit and there was close there was security footage of a of a murderer right behind

00:36:10.000 her who just killed her with a knife and she and and actually the lack of reaction from people

00:36:17.560 around her was absolutely terrifying a race-based killing the murderer said i think i'm going to

00:36:24.340 kill a white girl or something like it was just it couldn't have been worse and just memory hold

00:36:29.240 the whole thing was to use a phrase from orwell put down the memory hole and i think that america 0.99

00:36:34.620 is starting to push back on this elon musk has been very interested in the case of henry novak

00:36:39.700 has been tweeting a lot about it and of course with his 200 million followers or whatever it is

00:36:44.280 that brings a lot of attention to it i think america is dealing with these issues i think

00:36:49.200 the uk is struggling too i think canada has not even started to deal with these issues and just

00:36:53.760 just one one one additional thing on this imagine you know you're an american democrat whoever

00:36:58.760 reading you know u.s outlets this is pretty much the only story in britain right now it will be

00:37:06.260 for this entire week if you're somebody who reads through say the new york times or washington post

00:37:10.980 or wherever in the international section and you know you hear about uk news or uk politics or

00:37:16.740 whatever and there's just nothing yeah for a week or more you know surely that at least looks a

00:37:24.180 little suspicious yeah you know i mean i think about this a lot how can people support in our

00:37:29.800 country mark carney and i think it's based on your choice of media if you are a boomer who is used to

00:37:35.800 watching the legacy tv channels in canada cbc ctv global they simply do not cover stories like this

00:37:42.700 so you'll never even know about it and what do what they do cover they cover with a regime agenda

00:37:49.360 i think it really correlates to your sources of media i am online with alternative media i consume

00:37:57.120 a lot of freedom-oriented conservative media but i also consume a lot of left-wing media because i

00:38:02.180 want to know what the other side is saying that is not your your option if you are watching tv you

00:38:07.960 mentioned gb news that's the one exception on actual tv in the uk that gives you the other

00:38:13.560 side of the story they've been fantastic in fact i can't sign off without showing this wonderful

00:38:18.280 interaction between a friend you and i both know ben leo a little bit we've encountered him

00:38:22.780 in the field ben leo is is a young presenter for uh gb news who's now based in washington dc

00:38:30.120 and he had this encounter with people protesting outside an ICE office and it's just too amazing

00:38:36.340 not to show let me end our segment by showing you Ben Leo showing how it's done this is what

00:38:42.200 the Brits called a stiff upper lip or as they say keep calm and carry on the best of Britain

00:38:47.480 take a look at Ben Leo hang on a sec take a look at this or what 20 times more likely to commit 0.99

00:38:52.780 sexual offenses than the Brits yeah native Brits that colonized the whole world you mean that raped 0.99

00:38:58.080 to pillage the whole world to get the power that they have? 0.99

00:39:00.080 The Brits. The Brits, yeah.

00:39:01.080 Yeah, the Brits that did that.

00:39:02.080 And you guys have the audacity

00:39:04.080 to say that the Afghans and Somalis did what?

00:39:06.080 Well, it's not audacity. It's just a fact. 0.63

00:39:08.080 So is it not a fact that y'all colonized the world 0.98

00:39:11.080 through rape, murder, and pillaging? 0.99

00:39:13.080 Right or wrong? 1.00

00:39:14.080 That was true, yeah.

00:39:15.080 All right, then. So what are you talking about?

00:39:16.080 The British Empire.

00:39:17.080 So what are you talking about, then?

00:39:18.080 How dare you?

00:39:19.080 How dare you?

00:39:20.080 Why are you shouting?

00:39:21.080 What are you? Because you're

00:39:22.080 That's why.

00:39:23.080 How dare you? You're talking facts?

00:39:24.080 Let's talk facts. 1.00

00:39:25.080 You're shitting in my face. 0.99

00:39:26.080 So do something about it. 1.00

00:39:27.080 Do something about it.

00:39:28.080 Do something about it, Brit.

00:39:29.080 Do something about it, Brit.

00:39:30.080 Do something about it, Brit.

00:39:31.080 I'm here to ask questions.

00:39:32.080 How'd you get into this country?

00:39:33.080 What you talking about?

00:39:34.080 How dare you?

00:39:35.080 Why are you getting so angry? 1.00

00:39:36.080 Because you're a piece of . 1.00

00:39:37.080 You're a liar. 1.00

00:39:38.080 You're a liar. 1.00

00:39:40.080 You're a liar. 1.00

00:39:41.080 Would you like me to show you the government? 1.00

00:39:42.080 You're a liar. 1.00

00:39:43.080 Bro, I just asked you. 1.00

00:39:44.080 I just asked you what the did the Brits do

00:39:47.080 to have the power they have?

00:39:48.080 Answer that question.

00:39:50.080 Answer that question. 0.90

00:39:52.080 Answer that question.

00:39:53.080 How did the Brits get their power?

00:39:54.080 Can you stop spitting my face?

00:39:55.080 What was the question?

00:39:56.080 That's Ben Leo, I'm proud to say. I wouldn't exaggerate and say I'm a friend of his, but I'm an admirer and I've had the pleasure of meeting him in the field. Jack, you and I, I think, saw him at the same event. You know, there's a lot of protests afoot and Ben knows how to do it.

00:40:11.880 Last word to you. Do you think the UK is salvageable or do you think it's too late?

00:40:16.940 Demographic changes are hard to undo. 1.00

00:40:21.640 You know, Istanbul used to be called Constantinople and never will be a Christian city again. 0.98

00:40:28.500 Is the UK, is it too late? 0.74

00:40:31.860 No, I don't think it is too late. And, you know, this is this is one reason why I'm a reform member.

00:40:36.920 I think the last chance is a reform majority government in the next election, be that next year or this year or 2029, as I hope it will be.

00:40:48.580 If you look at the policies that they're going to do, you know, look, they're not going to fix everything immediately because, you know, no government can fix everything immediately.

00:40:55.320 But certainly the policies on illegal migration ending the definite leave to remain so that people don't get automatically granted permanent residency here and all put into time limited visas, at which point if they're not time limited, they're going to have to go, creating a hostile environment.

00:41:11.860 I think their policies on immigration, whilst not necessarily sounding as hardline as somebody like Restore's, are actually far more effective than any other option we have out there.

00:41:25.300 And I think it's entirely possible that the tide will start to turn under a reformed government.

00:41:30.740 And, you know, look, who knows if they'll be the party to completely save Britain forever.

00:41:37.220 But what I can say in my prediction is that there are so many good future options in very many different ways. 0.97

00:41:45.560 If reform under 940s get into power at the next election with an actual workable majority. 1.00

00:41:52.360 And if they don't, the chances of success are not necessarily none, but they become a hell of a lot slimmer. 1.00

00:42:01.420 So that's what I'm banking on.

00:42:03.600 That's why I'm so passionate about backing reform and Nigel now, as I think they're not necessarily that they're our last chance at this moment in time.

00:42:12.840 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:42:14.120 By the way, if Nigel Farage does become PM, maybe I can be taken off the list of banned foreigners.

00:42:19.580 You'll have to help me out with that, Jack.

00:42:21.220 great to catch up with you jack hadfield is our guest today jack what's the best way for people

00:42:25.740 to follow you is it on instagram uh it's on x actually primarily mostly they're uh at jack

00:42:31.980 hadders and that's h-a-d-d-e-r-s uh but all of my socials are available on jack hadfield.co.uk

00:42:40.000 which goes over to my link tree and you can find me everywhere there but yes primarily active on

00:42:44.800 x uh that's where i'll be able to find my posting right on well i enjoy following you and you maybe

00:42:49.880 you can give us an update on that very important by-election that's coming up jack hadfield

00:42:53.580 stay in touch my friend thanks for having me on all right what a pleasure stay with us

00:42:58.940 your letters to me next

00:43:00.700 hey welcome back your letters to me about mark carney's speech about anti-semitism dvd says

00:43:17.260 Number one, import millions of Muslims. 0.96

00:43:18.940 Number two, act shocked when those recent immigrants hate Jewish Canadians. 1.00

00:43:22.080 Three, blame it all on white Canadians. 0.98

00:43:24.220 Four, toughen hate crime laws that will only be used against white Canadians. 0.90

00:43:27.820 Five, rinse and repeat. 0.70

00:43:29.580 I'm afraid you've nailed it.

00:43:30.940 That is exactly what's going on.

00:43:32.720 Now, obviously, not all Muslims are anti-Semitic,

00:43:35.520 and many Muslims who maybe harbor those feelings in their hearts

00:43:38.480 go about their lives in a regular way.

00:43:40.360 But even if only a couple of percent of Muslims are animated by Jew hatred, given that there are now two million Muslims in Canada, five times as many as there are Jews, it's a noticeable number. 0.62

00:43:53.620 And it permeates institutions now, police forces, academia, hospitals.

00:43:59.760 We just saw the head of cardiology, a very prominent chief cardiac surgeon in Montreal, say, I'm getting out of here.

00:44:05.880 There's just too much anti-Semitism.

00:44:07.220 I'm afraid Canada has gone into a dark place.

00:44:10.360 Yossi Gedank says, Leith Marouf was busy, so Carney asked Omar, you're referring to a racist named Leith Marouf, who was literally a terrorist supporter.

00:44:19.980 He was a pro-Hezbollah terrorist supporter, and he actually got a contract from the liberals for anti-racism work.

00:44:25.700 I know that sounds crazy, but that's no crazier than appointing Omar al-Ghabra to this anti-Semitism council. 0.86

00:44:32.120 Kaper J says, just what we need, another advisory council run by a group of Muslims that report to 0.94

00:44:38.640 the guy that allows mass immigration in the first place. My problem with Omar al-Ghabra is not that 0.98

00:44:44.960 he's Muslim. It's that he's anti-Semitic. It's that he's a Muslim extremist. It's that he's a terrorist 0.97

00:44:49.780 supporter. Abnish Nanda, the other fellow I mentioned, I don't think he's Muslim himself. 0.68

00:44:54.100 He just goes to bat for them. He sues universities to force them to put up with anti-Semitic pro-Hamas

00:45:00.860 propaganda. Those are awful people, whatever their religion is. Now, it just so happens that 0.96

00:45:06.660 many Muslims come to Canada from places where anti-Semitism is endemic. Many places in the

00:45:12.280 world are 99 plus percent Muslim. They don't have any Jews there, but they hate Jews nonetheless. 1.00

00:45:18.380 In fact, the fewer there are Jews, the more, I suppose, hatred can flourish. We simply accept 0.99

00:45:24.860 people from parts of the world where hatred is natural, normal. Not just hatred for Jews, by the 0.99

00:45:30.540 way. Hatred for Christians, too. Hatred for women. Hatred for gays. I always say the Jews 0.99

00:45:36.660 are the canary in the coal mine. Jews first, but it won't be, it won't stop with Jews, I promise you 1.00

00:45:41.900 that. That's our show for the day. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World 1.00

00:45:47.340 Highquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - June 04, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Henry Nowak's death becomes Britain's George Floyd moment — but in reverse

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