Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ How activist-driven human rights tribunals are weaponized against free speech in Canada

00:00:00.000 hello my friends big show today one of my favorite people barbara k we've got her for more than half

00:00:05.260 an hour we're going to talk about everything i can think of it from transgender extremism to

00:00:10.500 censorship to the liberal government one of the smartest people out there i'm so glad she writes

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00:01:19.740 Tonight, a feature conversation with our dear friend Barbara Kay of the National Post.

00:01:35.820 We're going to talk about malicious lawsuits that half a dozen journalists have just been hit with.

00:01:40.700 It's May 1st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:43.540 You're ready for freedom!

00:01:46.440 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.74

00:01:49.740 when rudy giuliani was the mayor of new york city i had the pleasure it really was a privilege 0.76

00:02:03.640 of attending a policy meeting in new york to find out how he cleaned up the city how he cracked down

00:02:12.600 on the crime how he turned it from the most dangerous big city in america to the most safe

00:02:18.360 And one of the things I learned, and it stuck with me, and this is more than 20 years ago now, is the knowledge that all it took to terrorize an entire city block was one bad hombre, as Trump would say.

00:02:33.740 So just a very small number of full-time antagonists could terrorize and terrify hundreds of people

00:02:43.640 to keep them off their porches, to keep them locked behind locks and bars on their windows.

00:02:49.780 And there was a discovery that if they scooped up just actually quite a small number of bad

00:02:56.560 guys in any neighborhood, it would be like the scales would fall and a sun would rise

00:03:02.240 and the entire block would be safe. I don't know. I thought that was an interesting thing that I

00:03:08.080 probably wouldn't have guessed, how small a number of people can terrorize a large number of people.

00:03:14.020 And the reason I mentioned that to you today is because we have someone in Canada like that.

00:03:20.860 And I first heard about him with this aura of mystery because he was anonymous. Word trickled

00:03:29.140 out from the BC Human Rights Tribunal that there was this monster who was taking countless women

00:03:36.080 to the Human Rights Tribunal, typically immigrant women, including those who didn't have a good

00:03:40.900 command of English or know their rights. What he would do, this man, is he would book a meeting

00:03:47.000 with estheticians for a waxing. And most of these women worked from home. It was a way to get a 0.87

00:03:53.820 second income in the family and of course they're used to waxing women and this big bloke would show 0.98

00:04:00.380 up this 250 pound man and say wax my balls and if they didn't he would say that's discrimination 0.95

00:04:07.980 on the basis of gender expression or gender identity and the bc human rights tribunal is 0.99

00:04:14.660 the only thing crazier than him and so they took these cases and there were little rumors coming

00:04:21.340 out of that courtroom because the man who had brought all these trumped-up charges managed

00:04:27.560 somehow to convince the tribunal to keep his name secret. And it was only once that somehow broke

00:04:35.900 that the name Jonathan Yaniv and his face and his monstrosity became known to the world.

00:04:42.920 And the embarrassed human rights tribunal resiled from the claim. They were as much to blame as him.

00:04:47.520 in fact they were far worse he is some malicious uh vexatious litigant but they were the ones that

00:04:54.240 that ran with him well that was about 10 years ago now and we have been covering the case of

00:05:01.120 jonathan yuneev four years as he has gone on his transgender journey and along the way he has

00:05:08.440 assaulted probably close to half a dozen rebel news reporters he is a violent man by nature he

00:05:15.700 now has a criminal record. I just want to show you some of the interactions he's had with us,

00:05:21.260 and whether it's Sheila Gunn-Reed, Drea Humphrey, Kian Bextie, now our alumnus, David Menzies, 0.76

00:05:30.140 Jonathan Yaniv is a violent, abusive monster. And let me show you the latest interaction between him

00:05:38.300 and Drea Humphrey of our team. And as you know, Drea is black. Take a look at this disgusting man. 0.98

00:05:44.320 Take a look. 1.00

00:05:46.160 Nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger. 1.00

00:05:48.280 Fuck you. 1.00

00:05:49.540 I have a picture of your kid on here, by the way. 1.00

00:05:52.120 You want to see?

00:05:54.280 You like that?

00:05:55.740 You like that, Drea? 1.00

00:05:57.640 You fucking little bitch. 1.00

00:06:00.780 Hey, Sheriff, this guy's up for assault. 1.00

00:06:03.460 Why aren't you protecting this reporter? 1.00

00:06:06.040 Do you know what fuck off means? 1.00

00:06:07.100 I'll get him to bite you. 1.00

00:06:09.420 I'll get him to bite you. 1.00

00:06:10.900 I will fucking kill you. 1.00

00:06:12.280 You're going to send another bomb threat to my phone? 1.00

00:06:14.200 i'm watching you well i'll just call her if you're flat on in her face i'll be like off 0.96

00:06:21.160 will you be pleading guilty what go no don't touch me don't touch me 0.96

00:06:37.160 go away you just smashed your cane over my head rebel media hey

00:06:42.280 The good news is that people are starting to wise up to Jonathan Yaniv.

00:06:54.940 He sued Rebel News in civil court a couple of years ago, and we managed to get it thrown

00:06:59.520 out as a slap suit, Strategic Litigation Against Public Participation.

00:07:04.840 The judge agreed that it was not a real lawsuit, it was just his malice showing through.

00:07:10.720 Well, since then, he's been wise enough to stay out of the real courts where you can get a slap suit thrown out.

00:07:16.800 And he's gone back to his original place, the cuckoos at the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal, perhaps the stupidest quasi judicial tribunal in Canada. 0.98

00:07:28.940 Actually, they're not stupid. I wish they were. They're quite cunning. 1.00

00:07:31.280 What they are is like Nyaniv in his own way. They are so contrary to norms of the law. 1.00

00:07:39.260 recently yaniv has filed a spate of vexatious complaints against any media who criticize him

00:07:48.420 or his views of transgenderism i'm talking about the western standard juno news rebel news and

00:07:56.420 our dear friend barbara kay of the national post who joins us now now barbara great to see you

00:08:01.740 again i have no doubt that what i've just said will yield yet another human rights complaint

00:08:06.720 to hell with that yeah i thanks for having me on and i know uh we're we're comrades in arms

00:08:15.160 on this issue uh truly i i don't want to i don't want to prejudice my own case by saying anything

00:08:23.480 about the bc human rights tribunal or you know uh anybody on it uh but i do think i do agree with

00:08:31.420 you that I think they call him a prolific litigant, but I think vexatious really is

00:08:38.980 the word, and it's too bad that they're wasting time and taxpayers' money on hearing any more of

00:08:46.660 his complaints, which, by the way, follow suspiciously quickly upon the heels of the

00:08:53.120 massive damages decision against Barry Neufeld, $750,000, an unheard of amount for damages

00:09:04.800 in a complaint at the tribunal.

00:09:11.500 So that to me sort of is a little bit suspicious and suggests a certain, could be a certain

00:09:21.340 motive in following on the heels of that i'm certainly not going to press you to say anything

00:09:26.840 that would prejudice your case i suppose i've i've been through this rodeo so many times it's

00:09:31.580 i've got as many arrows in me as a porcupine so i you know it's just throw another log on the fire

00:09:37.540 but um you know about 20 years ago i read a book that really opened my eyes and i read it twice

00:09:42.980 and you know i should go back and read it a third time it was called rules for radicals

00:09:48.480 And it was written by Saul Alinsky, who was a communist activist, who was an inspirer of Barack Obama.

00:09:55.300 In fact, I think Hillary Clinton even sort of interned with him.

00:09:59.640 She wrote her MA thesis, didn't she, on him?

00:10:02.680 Good for you. Yeah, you know your history.

00:10:05.240 Saul Alinsky basically wrote the book, it's called Rules for Radicals, that was the strategy for 60s counterculture revolution.

00:10:14.300 And I guess I would sum it up with one image.

00:10:18.480 You can protest outside the dean's office at your university.

00:10:23.480 You can have a sit-in.

00:10:25.480 You can, you know, have some sort of passive resistance protest.

00:10:30.420 You can do that.

00:10:31.480 Or, as Saul Alinsky would say, why don't you become the dean yourself?

00:10:37.760 And that's the thing, I think, with the human rights tribunals, is Jonathan Yaniv is the

00:10:43.280 protester.

00:10:43.940 He's the radical.

00:10:44.980 He's the troublemaker.

00:10:46.040 but far more effective far more dangerous is the tribunal itself that is staffed by a bevy of 1.00

00:10:53.300 yanives who were just a little bit smarter and a little bit more disciplined and i'm glad you 0.99

00:10:57.180 reminded me of the case of um barry neufeld i think is his name who was hit with a 750 000

00:11:05.100 fine by the same bc human rights tribunal for his critical comments about transgenderism which you

00:11:11.540 might argue as an elected politician he is paid to have those opinions and he's not and and he

00:11:18.300 and he he's a person who is impossible for him to pay even a fraction of that he lives in a trailer

00:11:25.740 he didn't correct he didn't he didn't uh criticize any specific person he criticized a curriculum

00:11:32.620 but they treated it as though it was a class action suit uh by teachers who felt aggrieved

00:11:39.360 because they felt personally offended by the fact that he was critical of the curriculum.

00:11:47.300 So that mass, that huge number, it's as if each teacher, I think it is actually,

00:11:54.860 each teacher in the Chilliwack Association of Teachers, Teachers Association is slated to get a portion of that,

00:12:02.640 which is never going to be forthcoming, but that was the general idea.

00:12:06.160 this was not what the human rights tribunals were meant to be yeah and that's not what it's allowed

00:12:11.480 to do under law either they're just literally making it up as they go barry neufeld as far

00:12:15.500 as i know has not been charged with any offense he's not charged with any crime and the the size

00:12:20.640 of that penalty is enormous it's the kind of thing that you would i mean it's just it's an it's

00:12:27.400 unheard of it's our charter would say that's cruel and unusual punishment is certainly both

00:12:32.960 and it's not the it's not the business of the human rights tribunal he has he has not been

00:12:38.460 charged let alone convicted of a hate crime or a hate speech these are just yaniv style activists

00:12:44.640 who instead of protesting outside the dean's office are the dean and i think that the bc 0.62

00:12:50.500 human rights tribunal is an enemy of the law i think they are rogues and renegades and i wonder 0.75

00:12:58.280 how long they'll be allowed to continue because of this deference to authority that is so canadian

00:13:03.840 isn't it we just uh we don't even criticize our judges in the united states judges are politically

00:13:11.180 accountable there's at least going into it they're screened in the case of federal judges

00:13:18.140 or senior judges appeal judges they have to go before the u.s senate and are grilled

00:13:23.980 and sometimes they're withdrawn when bad stuff about them comes out our canadian judges are just

00:13:31.280 as political they're just not held to political account like you can you could probably even name

00:13:37.260 some of the most famous cases of judges being kept out robert bork being a very famous case from

00:13:43.220 i don't know about 40 years ago a very conservative judge who the senate just said we're not letting

00:13:47.800 this guy in and we don't have that same political accountability in canada do you know could i bet

00:13:53.780 you could probably name more american supreme court judges than canadian supreme court judges

00:13:58.040 am i wrong uh no not at all uh they're appointed they're kind of very distant from us we don't uh

00:14:05.360 you know they but i mean the supreme court is is the least of our troubles right now we have judges

00:14:11.140 every day in the national post i read another story about a judge making a crazy decision

00:14:16.400 uh there was a judge that got very angry or annoyed with uh one of a defendant who had had

00:14:25.280 90 prior convictions and who had an indigenous name but was not claiming an indigenous discount

00:14:33.900 on his sentence right because he said he had no particular indigenous access to grind and the

00:14:40.620 judge was berating him and saying look here you know you've got to take this discount you know

00:14:46.320 yeah uh i think i i mean it's it's it's it's comic in a way what's happening uh but to the

00:14:55.880 justice system little by little but i i guess i guess it was inevitable that uh what was creeping

00:15:02.720 up through the arts uh you know the arts courses the humanities for all these years

00:15:09.560 eventually was going to arrive at the law schools and it did some time ago and now we're seeing the

00:15:14.820 fruits of um that uh ideological creep yeah i mean taking eve there's an extremist in terms

00:15:24.960 of transgenderism he's an extremist in terms of how he deals with people that's why he's a convicted

00:15:29.860 criminal he you know i mean he brandishes prohibited weapons he's violent we know that 0.98

00:15:34.840 from his interaction he's he's an absolute bigot completely racist you saw his treatment of drea

00:15:40.220 and a man like that would normally be on the margins of society but because people just like

00:15:48.040 him have done the long the long march through the institutions there are people just like him

00:15:54.300 in every university in alba in in canada but also human rights tribunals the bc one is the worst

00:16:01.580 i would say in quote real courts as you just mentioned the criminal courts and in in other

00:16:07.580 institutions i mean we just heard about the absolute nuttiness in the canadian military

00:16:13.460 some of their lowering standards just to juice the numbers um i don't know i just think that

00:16:21.220 the pendulum uh is swinging back in terms of public opinion but what is an unelected unaccountable bc

00:16:29.280 human rights tribunal care about public opinion what is the supreme court they don't have yeah

00:16:33.300 they don't have to care they don't have to care because they're really not accountable uh and

00:16:38.820 most of them if i'm not mistaken are not lawyers themselves they i think you can get on these

00:16:46.060 tribunals you get appointed don't you and you i don't know i mean i don't know i don't even know

00:16:51.940 what the criteria none of them are judges many of them are not lawyers and all of them by definition

00:16:56.900 or activists you do not go to sit on a human rights tribunal if you're a neutral person they

00:17:02.840 positively have a mandate to be quote progressive um so they've institutionalized one particular

00:17:09.960 biased way of looking at the world and i say again i mean yaniv would be a spent force he's

00:17:15.780 he's discredited he's convicted of crimes he's been deemed by uh the courts of bc to to be a

00:17:24.700 slap lawsuit guy but the last uh resort is the human rights tribunal who is basically decided

00:17:34.240 to be a national censor as i said at the beginning yaniv weaponizing the human rights tribunal and

00:17:42.020 the reason that's important he doesn't have to hire a lawyer himself doesn't have to pay a bill

00:17:45.720 himself so the taxpayers of british columbia have handed yaniv a weapon that he is now shooting

00:17:51.820 and anyone he disagrees with in the media you me drea juno news western standard i don't know who

00:17:58.740 else how would we know if he doesn't there may be a hundred just like he went after so so many

00:18:04.140 of these immigrant women who wouldn't wax his privates um i got i phoned the human rights

00:18:12.100 tribunal when we got hit with a complaint from him a couple years i phoned them i said you know

00:18:15.780 who this guy is you know he's just being deemed a slap litigant they said oh yeah we know

00:18:21.280 like they're they're not unaware of what they're doing uh they would consider it a feature not a

00:18:27.140 bug yeah which makes me think that um if this does come to a trial because i think they're

00:18:37.280 pretty backlogged uh and they they they still have to accept it i've gotten notice that of a

00:18:43.020 complaint but i don't they still have to accept it and so it might take a few years and of course

00:18:49.140 um as you say it could easily it could easily go against us uh i have a justice center uh

00:18:57.360 for constitutional freedoms uh very kindly you know uh are defending me and i spoke to their

00:19:05.540 lawyer or the lawyer that's affiliated with them and and he he is uh he is defending four

00:19:11.800 of uh respondents and dallas brody right but she's a provincial politician in bc

00:19:20.700 yes she's brave uh megan murphy she's great she's a she's a classical feminist if i may

00:19:27.820 yes and derek fildebrand from the western standard yeah and me but there's others there's

00:19:33.240 chris elton you know the billboard chris yeah we know him well yeah yeah um and i'm sorry i can't

00:19:39.080 remember the others but it's just a whole slew and and uh really that you're even allowed to do

00:19:45.740 this just sort of pick a slate of public facing people who've you know tweeted or whatever and

00:19:53.840 misgendered you and that this is now costing taxpayers all this money to process you know

00:20:02.900 It wouldn't surprise me if everyone you just listed got whacked with a $100,000 penalty.

00:20:08.980 I mean, why not?

00:20:09.540 If you give poor Barry Neufeld a $750,000, quote, fine and nothing happens to you, no

00:20:16.560 grown-up pushes back, no, the premier doesn't say that's nuts, the justice minister doesn't

00:20:21.700 say that's nuts, you're not defrocked by the law society.

00:20:25.480 Like if you do something as clearly insane as punish an old man on a school board with a $750,000 fine because he said things about transgenderism that frankly most people would generally agree with, even if his language was a bit sharp sometimes.

00:20:41.760 If you do that and have no negative feedback from the universe, what are you to conclude other than you're on the right track?

00:20:50.160 And so, of course, it's going to happen again.

00:20:52.020 By the way, I read a story out of B.C. that the social media platform X, formerly called Twitter, was hauled before the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal because an anonymous complainant, I'll let you guess who that is, didn't like a post.

00:21:13.540 so x or twitter geo blocked it so you cannot see that tweet in canada so twitter basically said

00:21:22.700 okay um if there's some canadian rules we'll see no one in canada can see the tweet the this

00:21:28.800 anonymous complainant pressed on and this human rights tribunal said we are fining x or twitter

00:21:38.040 a hundred thousand dollars because they didn't take it down in america so you so these bc human

00:21:44.820 rights tribunal uh fake judges they're not real judges why would they stop i mean today barry

00:21:52.340 neufeld tomorrow the world i mean and why wouldn't they go ahead can they force can they force an

00:21:58.580 american based company to pay anything i mean i don't know we'll find out i think that uh twitter

00:22:06.360 is appealing the ruling but but seriously if you can you know you're these little human rights

00:22:11.700 judges in vancouver and you're on a roll you got barry neufeld for three quarters of a mil

00:22:19.440 i'm just surprised they didn't hit elon musk with a billion dollar fine how about just say a gazillion

00:22:25.240 we find you a gazillion dollars it's i mean why not in for a dime in for a dollar in for a gazillion

00:22:31.760 dollars i mean the funny thing is that that yaniv is is actually with all the notoriety he's bringing

00:22:38.320 out every troll and he had like i saw one troll on x who was taunting him and saying give it your

00:22:45.940 best shot you know i'm american i've got the first amendment you know you can't do anything to me

00:22:50.940 go on go on and then he called him all kinds of names and uh uh i was i i thought you know really

00:22:59.120 he is actually attracting more of what he claims to feel is so grievously offensive to him

00:23:07.480 uh there's actually a whole website devoted to yaniv i can i say that can i say the website's

00:23:14.080 name sure it's meow mix dot online have you seen it i i don't know if i have but i that's a great

00:23:22.080 name for you it's it's really something uh i have to say i mean some viewers might be saying why are

00:23:28.400 you guys talking so much about this fringe character well because that's a great question 0.63

00:23:32.680 because he's a kook he's normally the kind of person you would just sort of cross the street 1.00

00:23:36.560 just to get away from him if you saw on the street if you were in the bus or transit you 1.00

00:23:41.520 would get off the bus and ride on a different car but he's managed to hijack the legal system first

00:23:48.220 against these visible minority women estheticians and now against journalists so it's not just a 0.90

00:23:54.720 story about one kook it's a story about how one kook has hijacked all these institutions and 0.87

00:24:00.140 turned them into it definitely a story about our culture and our uh the the trivialization of the 0.77

00:24:08.600 law the trivialization of uh freedom of speech all of those things we are an international mockery

00:24:16.680 and i should think that uh that that should in itself be a reason for the tribunals to sort of

00:24:23.520 of, you know, really do some self-interrogation,

00:24:26.280 saying, are we, is this really working?

00:24:29.060 Are we achieving our goal of,

00:24:32.300 I guess the goal is to set a standard

00:24:34.600 for what is public discourse,

00:24:38.020 the dignity of public discourse

00:24:39.620 or whatever they think their mandate is.

00:24:42.340 But it's having the opposite effect

00:24:43.940 because it's inviting very vicious mockery online,

00:24:48.820 on social media.

00:24:49.700 and uh in my estimation it's it's a national embarrassment when that happens when people

00:24:57.160 perceive that that it always starts with good intentions you know we we want to have dignified

00:25:03.100 discourse on certain subjects uh and and look where we are now uh it's it's um

00:25:09.720 uh it's it's become an international joke yeah you know i i sometimes travel to the united kingdom

00:25:17.520 because i'm interested in tommy robinson and free speech and i've always said that what happens there

00:25:22.480 happens here five years later sure and uh and i think it's true with the censorship you heard

00:25:28.460 mark miller uh the other day saying that we're falling behind the uk and the eu in terms of

00:25:33.740 censorship that's exactly what i've been saying and and so he wants us to go down that road um

00:25:39.320 one of the things i'm about mark miller for a minute yeah mark miller it was just a few years

00:25:45.960 ago when he was uh crown aboriginal relations and he was online himself uh calling people like

00:25:56.480 me but also scholars like francis widdowson and all the others who have gotten into trouble uh

00:26:04.360 denialists yeah because they even then you know kamloops the whole kamloops story is now five

00:26:11.400 years old and it was during that time when scholars true scholars of of residential school

00:26:18.300 history were were saying look uh you can't talk about these children's deaths unless we know for

00:26:26.700 certain that they're there and so far we don't know and we have no evidence and anybody who would say

00:26:31.180 that was considered a denialist and he himself this was a minister of the crown was was online

00:26:38.600 saying these people are denialists they should be punished uh this is wrong uh he really got into it

00:26:45.340 in a very harsh way and i i do worry that uh once bill c9 is passed uh you know the online harms act

00:26:58.500 which is very near to passage right uh i think it may have a different name the they i don't think

00:27:06.300 they brought back the online harms back yet what is it now it was called c it's gone through a

00:27:11.260 couple names because it keeps expiring but um they had they have indicated they're going to

00:27:15.940 bring it back i don't think it's got a new number don't it's it's had two different numbers i think

00:27:20.640 so okay but isn't it near passage it is not near passage there's other bills are so if you were

00:27:27.300 talking about the one that creates a new board of censors that creates new powers for the human

00:27:32.580 rights commission that was that used to be called i think b it was 36 and then 63 that bill has not

00:27:38.980 been revived other powers have and i think c9 might be one of them i'm sorry i don't have it

00:27:43.500 in front of me but the one that was called the online harms act i do not believe it's been

00:27:47.980 reintroduced yet and i could be wrong it's hard to keep up because it's changed in the last year

00:27:54.560 but mark miller says he once goes back and he's revived his censorship panel of experts which

00:28:00.840 includes for example uh the former chair of the so-called anti-hate network um bernie farber

00:28:07.560 oh yes yes and remember they took 25 000 from the southern poverty law center which has just

00:28:13.340 been indicted for propping up hate groups anyway we're getting a little bit far afield but let me

00:28:18.540 close the loop on on mark miller if i may for one second um maybe it's not so much on him but

00:28:27.060 when i'm in the uk i've detected something over there and you've probably heard of the tavistock

00:28:32.160 center that was a real transgenderism surgery place and you may have heard that they've sort

00:28:38.880 of been rebuked and are pulling back and the the uk supreme court has ruled that a that a man and

00:28:46.000 there's a man and a woman there ain't nothing in between so the uk supreme court has clarified

00:28:51.740 that men are not women the transgender extremism has dialed back that's the uk

00:28:57.960 in america donald trump has pulled the plug on most transgenderism in sports and in other women's

00:29:06.140 places if you look around the world the pendulum is swinging back in the uk one last thing there's

00:29:12.280 something i met a guy who was a leader of something called the the um the gay men's network

00:29:20.320 and what is the gay men's network it's the l the g and the b without the t and if you listen to

00:29:28.480 those guys they'll say they are undermining gay rights the t is so wacky and so transgressive 0.51

00:29:35.380 and it's such a such a wrecking ball of western culture and by the way something i've heard time

00:29:41.660 and again from people uh not only the gay men's network but other places they say i'm a gay man

00:29:48.400 if i were young today i would have been told no you're not a gay man you're trans

00:29:52.680 and they would have cut me up they would have chopped me up so one of the reasons that the 0.81

00:29:57.360 the gay men's network is active is they think that transgenderism has gone too far and it's 0.93

00:30:03.740 not in their interest and they say it is positively mutilating young gay men 0.97

00:30:09.440 come back to canada we are we are the worst of all worlds we have not pulled back from the 0.59

00:30:15.980 extremism we've doubled down we're doubling down yeah yeah is a proof of that exactly and and and

00:30:24.460 the people the most uh the most strident voices uh who the true believers uh who are in power

00:30:32.520 they are doubling down because to admit even to give an inch to the idea that well maybe we went

00:30:40.440 a little too far they can't because once you've got that little wedge in the wall uh it's it's a

00:30:48.060 house of cards it'll it'll start to crumble and they know that so they are just hanging in there

00:30:53.920 to the bitter end we we've got bitter enders all through all in every institution pedagogy

00:31:01.320 sport associations uh they just they won't give in and they're proud of it well they talk as though

00:31:08.360 they're proud of it you know that they call it inclusion they're continuing to call it inclusion

00:31:13.020 um the right to participate in sports even though this is you know there's nobody stopping uh trans

00:31:20.800 people from participating in their sex category their own sex category uh we are in so many ways

00:31:30.080 uh one of the wokest countries on earth now and you know i was just thinking while you were talking

00:31:37.300 there that the reason they had barry newfield with 750 grand is not because they think they

00:31:41.680 can collect 750 grand for barry newfield it's as they would say pour encourager les autres

00:31:47.120 it's to terrify the others it's to say we'll do this to you too you want a piece of this

00:31:53.460 it's it's sort of like the the old saying your first day of prison go up and fight someone and

00:32:00.260 if you win you'll never have to fight you know set an example and everyone says oh that guy

00:32:04.460 well that's what they the bc human rights tribunal just did with barry neufeld and that's what

00:32:09.080 they're doing by accepting these lawsuits against you and me western standard and juno and billboard

00:32:16.400 chris elston and megan murphy is they're trying to say hey if you talk about transgenderism in a

00:32:23.260 way we don't like we're going to put you through a fifty thousand dollar legal process so better 0.85

00:32:28.580 shut up he's an enforcer yaniv is a kook but he's an enforcer and he's been weaponized by the system 0.93

00:32:36.620 you know i tell you it's i think the pendulum is swinging back in the court of public opinion but 0.96

00:32:41.180 the institutions are hardline i want to talk about one last thing i know you've been very generous

00:32:44.920 with your time but i feel like it's related in some way you've already touched on the hoax of

00:32:50.080 the 215 buried bodies which of course is not accurate um you know we were talking the other

00:32:57.440 day with a lawyer from the justice center for constitutional freedoms about a mom and a daughter

00:33:02.140 who objected to a land acknowledgement you know you go to an event they start off by talking

00:33:09.940 and and by the way i sit through those i do not stand uh people are standing like it's some

00:33:15.680 religious service or something yeah and you know it's trite and it's oh it's the latest thing it's

00:33:21.240 fashion i mean it would be like you know wearing a i don't know ukraine pin on your lapel or

00:33:28.100 something shows that you're up to date but all of a sudden in british columbia now the land

00:33:33.160 acknowledgement has a bit of meaning someone actually listened to it and the concept of

00:33:37.460 indigenous title is now throwing into question if british columbians who are on land that was

00:33:42.620 not ceded in a treaty do they even own your land and i think now thousands perhaps millions

00:33:48.520 of british colombians are thinking oh my god i've worked my whole life all my savings are in my home

00:33:54.340 and now because the woke woke lawyers are now woke judges and woke politicians you're saying i don't

00:34:00.480 even own my own home and you're making secret deals they call it drip of the um the it's about

00:34:07.860 indigenous rights yes i always forget what it stands for but i know exactly what you're talking

00:34:12.540 Um, yeah, it's the declaration of, there's a UN version, the UN declaration of rights.

00:34:19.980 That's right. And part of the reason it's hard to remember and hard to say is to keep it obscure.

00:34:25.160 So most normal people don't bother reading about something called DRIPA, who would waste time on

00:34:29.380 that. But all of a sudden, a bunch of British Columbians are thinking, oh my, including,

00:34:32.520 by the way, a lot of newcomers who had nothing to do with battles 150 years ago,

00:34:38.340 who are now being told that they may not own their land i think it's part of the same

00:34:42.820 thing the courts are over there the people are over there and something's got to break

00:34:48.860 something's got to give well i think that's the issue that i mean when you tell people

00:34:53.920 that uh you make them insecure about their ownership of their own home uh people get more

00:35:01.060 than a little you know they'll do more than raise their voice that that's that's when revolutions

00:35:05.920 start because you can't you can't be fooling around with uh with people's own homes and their

00:35:12.060 ownership and that's their equity as you say this is this is truly crazy stuff uh so it's

00:35:19.720 it could end very badly i don't know it's so bad out there yeah i don't know how it's going to end

00:35:26.600 i mean that's why i was riveted recently by what was going on in ireland remember the irish have a

00:35:30.880 bit of a rebellious streak um i mean they had a rebellion against the british empire and

00:35:36.340 incredibly managed to boot them out i mean they they talk about 800 years of resistance i mean

00:35:41.780 it's quite dramatic to hear the language and of course they had the the troubles uh just a

00:35:46.340 generation ago so it was the first time in my life i was listening to a speech in ireland by a

00:35:51.740 by a protester against mass immigration and and this was a political leader who said

00:35:56.920 now it's not the time it's not the time for violence and he sort of said like yet which is

00:36:03.880 a shocking thing for a canadian's ears to hear but in ireland the idea of getting physical and

00:36:10.600 kinetic is not so deep in their past that they've forgotten it and it's still on the table so i i go

00:36:17.500 to the uk to be depressed and i go to ireland to get a tiny flicker of hope of what might happen

00:36:23.480 if a feisty rebellious cohesive country of just five million souls decides they've had enough

00:36:30.720 so i think the the jury is still out then of course there's america um yeah i don't know

00:36:36.380 the world's a crazy place and canada is one of the craziest barbara i'm really grateful that

00:36:41.000 you are at the national post because you have a large audience there just give us one minute

00:36:45.420 what are you working on these days do you have a new column coming out or are you gonna keep

00:36:49.160 Yeah, I'm working on one. I'm actually trying to decide between – I have a couple of topics.

00:36:55.200 They're all around the same topic, so I haven't quite decided for next week.

00:37:00.380 But these days I'm pretty absorbed with what's going on in the war, in Israel, anti-Zionism, the escalation of violence here in Canada, the failure of Canada to deal with the problem.

00:37:18.340 i worry a lot about what happened that what happened in australia could happen here quite

00:37:23.860 easily because not much happening in the way of prevention stuff like that yeah me too i mean i

00:37:31.840 remember saying very early after the hamas attack on southern israel i said i'm not that worried

00:37:37.220 about israel i think they'll be able to take care of themselves what does deeply worry me

00:37:40.380 is what happens here in canada because although israel has a larger percentage of muslims in

00:37:46.160 canada they understand some of the challenges there and canada is pretending that diversity

00:37:52.360 is our strength um i don't know what this year's stats will be for mass immigration but i'm sure

00:37:59.140 they'll be high and until we shake our heads and splash cold water in our faces and realize

00:38:05.240 we will not be we will not be ready and i'm i think it's just a matter of time before there

00:38:10.480 are murders in canada i agree with you and no we're not doing anything on the demographic scene

00:38:16.700 and as far as i'm concerned i think even if even if immigration stop totally tomorrow 0.94

00:38:22.260 it's kind of too late demographically we have invited um in people from cultures where jew

00:38:29.420 hatred is pandemic and uh i don't see that anti-semitism uh is uh going to abate i think

00:38:41.300 it's going to get worse uh and we're not we don't have a whole lot of leadership on that issue that

00:38:48.680 seems to they don't seem to understand that we're on the cusp of something and what i would say to 0.99

00:38:56.380 my gentile friends and what i do say is of course jews are the first to go they're the canary in the 0.78

00:39:00.300 coal mine but they're never the last i mean christians are next i mean uh it's pretty simple 1.00

00:39:07.200 i mean if you want if you want to understand why iran is so intractable is they like isis believe

00:39:13.260 in a global government that's a theocracy they don't believe in secular states democratically

00:39:20.960 elected that's why they call america the great satan that's why they hate it so much because

00:39:25.600 it's the bulwark against uh the rise of islam and they have a millenarian aspect to it too

00:39:31.260 so i would say to my christian friends don't don't think that you're immune to antisemitism

00:39:36.220 of course you are from the in the immediate proximate sense but jews today christians

00:39:42.360 tomorrow i'm afraid that's how it is barbara great to catch up with you we'll keep reading

00:39:45.860 your stories in the post thanks ezra all right there she is barbara kaye columnist for the

00:39:51.360 national post that's our show for the day until monday on behalf of all of us here at rebel

00:39:57.300 world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - May 02, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ How activist-driven human rights tribunals are weaponized against free speech in Canada

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