Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ How do you feel about the government being able to slow or stop your car by remote？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Big show today. We're going to talk to Sheila Gunn-Reed about Tamara Leach's bail hearing in Ottawa today.

00:00:05.680 She covered the whole thing live for seven hours.

00:00:09.040 And I'm going to talk to you about self-driving cars. Sounds pretty cool, right?

00:00:12.360 But who can turn those on or off? Can the government?

00:00:16.440 What if you're going someplace they don't want you to go? Like, oh, I don't know, a truck or convoy?

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00:00:56.580 Tonight, how do you feel about the government being able to slow down or even stop your car

00:01:15.560 by remote? It's July 5th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:19.860 I can't find a clip of it on YouTube, but I seem to remember an episode from that old TV series,

00:01:40.720 The Sopranos, where Tony Soprano, the mafia boss, rips out the GPS from a new SUV he bought.

00:01:48.260 This was years ago when those things were not common. They were a luxury option in high-end vehicles.

00:01:55.980 Tony was physically ripping it out of his car. It's quite a fun scene, partly because he was paranoid,

00:02:01.420 but partly because he had reasons to be paranoid. The FBI were surveilling him all the time,

00:02:06.340 tracking him. That's why he used phone booths and had in-person meetings.

00:02:10.540 He correctly knew that we were moving towards a surveillance state where your location is known

00:02:15.840 at all times. It would be interesting to see how Tony Soprano would cope with the invasive

00:02:21.540 technology of 2022. I mean, GPS tracking your movements, of course, but the level of total

00:02:28.000 perpetual surveillance is here and it's Google and Amazon and Apple and Facebook. And yeah,

00:02:33.760 the FBI comes along for the ride too. I mean, seriously, look at this. This is from Brendan Carr,

00:02:39.620 an FCC commissioner in the United States has sent for Federal Communications Commission. These are

00:02:45.260 the folks in charge of telecommunications and big tech. So here's his tweet. Today, a TikTok exec

00:02:53.040 said it was simply false for me to say that they collect face prints, browsing history,

00:03:00.320 and keystroke patterns, except I was quoting directly from TikTok's own disclosures.

00:03:06.020 TikTok's concerning pattern of misrepresentations about U.S. user data continues.

00:03:13.060 I'm not sure if you can see the images he's showing on his tweet there, but it is disclosure

00:03:17.960 from TikTok that they don't just track everything you record in that video app and everything you

00:03:23.200 watch. They actually are recording you, your face print. That's funny. I thought that was like a

00:03:29.480 secret password to open your phone. Well, TikTok's recording that. They're recording your voice print,

00:03:34.700 even your keystroke patterns and rhythms. What's that? This is what they admit to doing.

00:03:41.940 They're listening to you. They're watching your face. I don't think Tony Soprano would have gone

00:03:47.660 for that, do you? And that doesn't even touch on the obvious stuff. Chinese staff of TikTok,

00:03:55.460 where TikTok is based, they positively spy on users. Same thing happened with Twitter, of course.

00:04:00.940 You know, Tony Soprano had reasons to be afraid. He was a criminal mastermind, but you don't have to

00:04:06.640 be a criminal to worry about your privacy. Some things aren't criminal or even unethical. They're

00:04:11.420 just private and personal, not meant to be shared with the world or with companies who would want to

00:04:18.100 know things about you so they could sell things to you or worse, politicians and governments who want

00:04:23.240 to know things about you to punish you or censor you or control you. And that's my real fear.

00:04:29.180 It's why I hate the apps we're being literally forced to use during the pandemic. There's an app

00:04:35.660 that Trudeau requires you to use to come back to Canada if you leave. I don't even think that's

00:04:40.720 constitutional. As a citizen, you have the right to come back. I've never used this app. It's called

00:04:46.440 Arrive Can because I haven't been allowed to go to the United States in years. But everyone who does 0.53

00:04:53.680 legally must use this Arrive Can app or face a fine of up to $5,000 just for coming back to your own

00:04:58.940 country. If you don't download this app and log in and use it, $5,000 fine for not positively doing

00:05:05.780 this stupid thing Trudeau tells you to do. Now, the app, I'm told, is pretty useless. And it's one of the 0.99

00:05:12.100 reasons the airports are so bogged down. Here's the story from a few months ago. Arrive Can app troubles

00:05:17.580 causing consternation at border. Yeah, it's gotten worse. People hate the app. It's unnecessary,

00:05:23.420 of course. But it's not that the app is actually useful to the government for any functionality.

00:05:29.900 And so the app gets you conditioned and trained on pain of a huge, in my mind, illegal fine

00:05:35.280 and gets you used to being surveilled and scanned and your privacy given up. Here's the World Economic

00:05:41.680 Forum's Yuval Noah Harari on that and how COVID was just the excuse for total surveillance.

00:05:48.520 COVID is critical because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize

00:05:55.940 total biometric surveillance. If we want to stop this epidemic, we need not just to monitor people,

00:06:04.700 we need to monitor what's happening under their skin.

00:06:07.560 The app is tracking you. It's why I fear not regular cryptocurrency like Bitcoin,

00:06:14.960 but the proposed government response to crypto, which is central bank digital currencies made by

00:06:22.300 governments. Because the government will then be able to track your money in real time,

00:06:27.180 who you spend it on. They could theoretically turn off your money, seize your money. Forget about

00:06:34.260 seizing bank accounts. They would just make your money vaporized. That's the government response to

00:06:40.060 crypto. But what about self-driving cars? They scare me, I won't lie. But they're becoming more and more

00:06:47.580 popular. They're on the streets right now. But if a central computer system can control your car, can steer

00:06:54.160 it, can slow it down or speed it up, can slam on the brakes. They can do that for traffic reasons, and those are

00:07:01.040 good reasons. Why can't they do that for any reason? For political reasons. For stopping you

00:07:08.840 from driving somewhere they don't like. Sure, if you're a car thief, a good idea to stop a guy like

00:07:13.680 that. But what if you're doing something, going somewhere they just don't want you to go? Just to

00:07:20.600 make up an example, what if you were going to a Trump rally? What if your high-tech car won't drive

00:07:26.680 you to a Trump rally? Or won't let you go to a bar? Won't let you go anywhere at all during a

00:07:33.340 lockdown? The car will not drive. What a terrible future that could be, except it's here, and you

00:07:40.360 don't need an American example. How about shutting down a thousand trucks during a convoy? Look at this,

00:07:47.480 though. This is from the European Transport Safety Council today. Who are they? They are funded by the

00:07:54.900 European Union government. It's the European Union's policy group, and it's where they make

00:08:01.440 their recommendations about things like self-driving cars. Look at their news story today. So today is

00:08:05.520 July 5th, as I talk to you, and their headline is about their excitement for tomorrow, July 6th, 2022.

00:08:12.760 Vehicle safety in Europe takes a giant leap forward. Well, I'm excited about vehicle safety as anybody,

00:08:18.960 but I'm not sure if that's the main thing they're actually doing tomorrow.

00:08:22.160 New models of car van Lorien bus launched onto the EU-EEA market from tomorrow, July 6th,

00:08:31.720 must be fitted as standard. With an array of new vehicle safety technologies, the European Transport

00:08:37.480 Safety Council welcomes this milestone, but says standards for two of the new technologies are

00:08:41.860 too weak and need to be urgently reviewed. Oh, really? Um, what do you mean? In particular,

00:08:49.540 ETSC says that the minimum standards for Intelligent Speed Assistance, ISA, could lead to manufacturers

00:08:58.220 building cars with an ISA system that has limited safety benefits and annoys drivers. That is because

00:09:04.340 the minimum legal specification allows for a warning-only system that features an annoying audible

00:09:09.880 beep, potentially combined with inaccurate speed information due to systems that use only a camera-based

00:09:15.980 sign recognition system with no backup in the form of a digital map of speed limit locations.

00:09:23.060 So, you know when in many cars, when you don't put on your seatbelts, it makes a beep-beep annoying sound

00:09:28.760 until you do. That's nagging. That's nudging. But I suppose you could just ignore it, right?

00:09:34.660 Well, they're deploying that same annoyance to how you drive now, including how fast you go.

00:09:42.000 I love how they call that speed assistance. We're just assisting you. I'll read from another

00:09:47.420 one of their articles. This is from the same European Union traffic group. Can you see the

00:09:54.540 image there, actually? Here's a bigger version of it. The car tracks your speed. It, quote,

00:10:02.280 helps you not speed when you've reached the speed limit. But it claims, and this is what really

00:10:08.860 irritates these bureaucrats, that you can override those annoying beeps if you like. And that's the 0.97

00:10:15.700 part that the EU is complaining about. They don't want you to be able to override your car's beep-beep-beep

00:10:21.700 when it thinks you're going too fast. Here's what the EU's car police say.

00:10:25.720 ISA, as it was originally envisaged, is a fantastic, life-saving system. Using sign-reading

00:10:33.060 cameras and digital maps of speed limit data, the car can cut engine torque automatically to keep the

00:10:38.320 vehicle within the current speed limit. Speed is such an important factor in road deaths that this

00:10:42.960 technology alone, if it were fitted to all cars on the road in this form, could cut deaths by 20%.

00:10:47.760 Now, I want to show you a video from Ford seven years ago. So, this is before self-driving cars were

00:10:56.380 even really a thing. Take a look. Drivers have never needed to be more attentive to avoid speeding.

00:11:02.240 So, beginning with the all-new Ford S-Max, Ford has introduced Intelligent Speed Limiter.

00:11:08.600 Drivers can choose to activate Intelligent Speed Limiter using the steering wheel controls.

00:11:13.500 Intelligent Speed Limiter enables drivers to manually set a maximum vehicle's speed.

00:11:19.200 The maximum speed is then automatically adjusted according to information from the

00:11:23.940 traffic sign recognition system that reads road signs and overtaking restrictions and displays them

00:11:29.580 in the instrument cluster. Cars with onboard navigation can also use map data to support the

00:11:35.720 system on long country roads where there may be fewer traffic signs. The system smoothly controls speed

00:11:42.060 using engine torque by electronically adjusting the amount of fuel delivered rather than applying

00:11:47.180 the brakes. Automatic self-driving cars were not a thing back then. Now they're being mainstream.

00:11:54.700 It won't really be voluntary soon now, will it? Now, why would you ever want to speed? I can think of some

00:12:02.380 reasons. An emergency? To get to the hospital? Or, I don't know, maybe because other cars are driving at a

00:12:09.900 certain speed and to go too slow to go slower than them would actually be dangerous. Has that ever

00:12:14.540 happened to you? Or you're on the highway and there's an obstacle and you have to speed up to

00:12:20.380 get around something just for a moment to avoid a hazard on the road. There's countless possible

00:12:25.740 reasons why in the moment you would actually need to speed to be safe. But imagine that being controlled

00:12:33.820 by someone else or some other high-tech system. But I'm not just worried about practical driving

00:12:40.460 matters like avoiding an accident or rushing somewhere in an emergency. I'm worried about

00:12:45.580 politics because it's what I think about. Do you think the Chinese government is collecting voice

00:12:51.580 prints and face prints of millions of users just for commercial reasons? No, of course not. I mean,

00:12:57.980 yes, it is for commercial reasons, yes. But it's also for spying reasons, for blackmail reasons even.

00:13:06.540 Do you think a government that would seize your bank account if you dared to go to a peaceful

00:13:11.820 trucker convoy that invoked a form of martial law because few trucks were honking their horns,

00:13:16.940 do you doubt that such authoritarians would simply turn off cars and trucks of everyone in the convoy,

00:13:23.900 including the thousands who drove across and around Canada? They put Tamara Leach in prison 1.00

00:13:31.020 for taking a selfie with a trucker. Do you doubt such people would have turned off her vehicle

00:13:37.420 when she left Medicine Hat? Yeah, you know, I'm with Tony Soprano on this one. He was a criminal,

00:13:43.500 that's for sure. But I'm more scared of Trudeau than I am of any mafia man. Stay with us for more. 0.98

00:13:53.900 Hey, I want to let you know something. A few weeks ago, I was at a crime scene

00:14:09.340 and I was a witness to a crime. Not exaggerating. It was the annual Justice Center for Constitutional

00:14:17.500 Freedom Gala Dinner for Freedom. It's named after the late columnist George Jonas who really wrote about

00:14:23.740 freedom a lot. And I've loved going to these things. I love the Justice Center for Constitutional

00:14:28.380 Freedoms. They do civil liberties work. Just outstanding. John Carpe is their boss. He's been

00:14:33.980 on our show a dozen times. I like going to show support for them. And I was excited that Tamara Leach,

00:14:42.780 the trucker, grandma, organizer lady, was there as the recipient of the Freedom Award. 0.99

00:14:51.100 And she's also a client of the Justice Center. I had actually never met Tamara Leach before,

00:14:55.820 so I posed with her for a selfie that I use as my little, you know, avatar, as it's called on social

00:15:02.060 media. Other people, and I want to tell you, it was very busy. And I'm almost to my point here.

00:15:06.540 And Rex Murphy spoke. He was very exciting. And it was a thrill to be in a room with, I don't know,

00:15:13.020 four or five hundred freedom-loving people to celebrate freedom instead of all the heckling

00:15:19.500 and the nagging we get from authoritarians. But my point is, I saw Tamara Leach. She was the honoree

00:15:26.380 of the night. And she was just beset by well-wishers posing for a photo or a selfie, although it wasn't

00:15:34.940 really a selfie because others took the photo. Now, you know what that's like, right? If you've

00:15:40.060 been to any public event where there's sort of a star, people say, can I get a photo? Yes. They

00:15:45.340 pose. They take it. Everyone sort of freezes their mouth. They're not talking during the photo, right?

00:15:49.660 That's an important point. They're not talking. They maybe say, cheese, but they're not talking.

00:15:54.700 Or they just smile and they're ready, click. So that's what it was like for Tamara Leach, 0.73

00:15:59.420 pretty much the whole night where she wasn't eating at her table or giving her

00:16:03.340 awards or reception speech on the stage. I know that because I was there. I know that because

00:16:11.180 I sat two tables away from her. And I know that because I personally asked for a selfie with her

00:16:16.700 and I got it. Now, I tell you all this, not to brag that I met Tamara Leach, although there's a tiny

00:16:22.300 bit of that there. But what I've just described, the fact that she took a selfie with another trucker

00:16:28.620 organizer named Tom Morazzo was the thin pretext for the Ottawa police to order a national warrant

00:16:37.580 out for Tamara Leach's arrest. I'm serious. The kind of thing that normally you do if there was a

00:16:42.460 murderer on the loose or an escaped prisoner. And police waited, though. They waited. They knew she took

00:16:49.740 this photo on June 16th. It was posted almost immediately. But they waited, waited, waited, waited.

00:16:55.100 And then they put out the warrant and had her arrested just before the July 1st weekend when

00:17:02.220 there was another freedom convoy in Ottawa. And it has been nine days since she was imprisoned

00:17:08.700 on the crime of taking a selfie. And she had a bail hearing on that today in Ottawa.

00:17:16.140 And our chief reporter and friend Sheila Gunn-Reed covered the hearing by video link. She joins us now

00:17:21.820 to talk about it. Sheila, great to see you. I know you spent the whole day covering this bail hearing.

00:17:26.940 Bail hearings, I can assure you, are not usually an all-day affair. Tell me how it was.

00:17:34.060 Well, you know, I think you covered a lot of the nuts and bolts of why this is happening. Tamera Leach was 1.00

00:17:42.060 arrested nine days ago for breach of a noncommunication condition of her release conditions from earlier,

00:17:50.940 so way back in March, for taking that picture with a fellow convoy organizer, Tom Maratso. But she never

00:17:58.860 actually really communicated with Tom Maratso. And that's what's prohibited in her bail conditions.

00:18:05.260 Um, she just took a photo with him. And one of the stipulations of her bail conditions are that

00:18:14.380 if she is in and around other convoy organizers communicating with them, that it happens in the

00:18:21.580 presence of her lawyers. Well, guess who her lawyers are? The Justice Center for Constitutional

00:18:25.820 Freedoms. The room was teeming with Tamera's lawyers. And it was very interesting today because

00:18:33.340 the homicide detective assigned to Tamera's case, a 22-year veteran of the force in Ottawa,

00:18:41.020 Chris Benson. Um, if you are murdered in Ottawa, I can't imagine that your case will ever be solved

00:18:48.300 because this guy didn't know who John Carpe was. He had no idea. He was asked on the stand,

00:18:56.380 who's that guy? I don't know who he is. It was John Carpe, the head of the Justice Center.

00:19:01.820 Then he was asked, who is John Carpe? I don't know who that is. Um, so he, this police detective,

00:19:09.660 he said, Tamera took a photo with this man. And this photo constitutes a breach of her conditions,

00:19:19.340 but he didn't know who her lawyers were at all. He had no idea. So how can he breach her on a condition

00:19:26.620 that says you can be with this guy if you're in the presence of your lawyer, when he had no idea who

00:19:31.660 her lawyer was? Worse still, they extended this Canada-wide nationwide warrant to pick her up

00:19:38.860 on a non-communication breach. Something Detective Benson testified that he had never done before,

00:19:46.220 but it sounds like they sent two detectives, a supervisor and another cop all the way from Ottawa

00:19:52.220 out to Alberta to Medicine Hat to grab Tamera. They're treating her like she is public enemy 1.00

00:19:57.340 number one, instead of a cute little Métis grandma who embarrassed Justin Trudeau on an 0.98

00:20:02.780 international scale. And that's really her crime here. Did you say they sent three cops to bring 1.00

00:20:08.140 her in? Is that what you said? Yeah, I think actually it might have been four,

00:20:11.340 but definitely two homicide detectives and a supervisor. So that's from Ottawa. And of course,

00:20:16.700 the Medicine Hat police couldn't be happier to comply with Trudeau. They're excited. Maybe they'll

00:20:21.260 get promoted or something. So you had three or maybe four cops from Ottawa fly all the way out

00:20:25.820 to Medicine Hat. And then you had the Medicine Hat cops on this. So this is like a major vice squad.

00:20:32.380 This is like the major drug cartel squad, the anti-mob squad. This is a major policing effort. I don't

00:20:40.700 know if there was at the same time a larger police effort in the country. And of course,

00:20:46.540 they took the homicide cop because that's the level of gravity here. Someone taking a selfie.

00:20:52.620 I want to know how it went. I followed your live tweets on the subject. You were watching this

00:20:58.620 thing and tweeting along and it sounded like the judge was not sympathetic. No, this is a completely

00:21:06.620 different judge than the one who reduced her bail conditions, which allowed her to go to the George

00:21:10.540 Jonas Freedom Award banquet. That judge made remarks about, you know, thought policing and that,

00:21:17.500 you know, we're here to police behavior, but not thoughts. When the Crown was asking for very

00:21:22.780 specific restrictions in Tamara's bail conditions. This one is quite different. If I had to guess,

00:21:31.100 I would say on about a 60% chance that he would probably let her out of jail on Friday when we

00:21:38.300 will get his judgment. But he was allowing the Crown to ask questions I thought had absolutely no

00:21:46.780 relevance in this case. For example, asking Detective Benson, who should be solving the 20 plus unsolved

00:21:53.900 homicides in Ottawa, whether or not the convoy protests from February had any impact on the

00:22:02.860 feeling of Canada Day. What does that got to do with anything? How do you measure feeling? Was it a

00:22:08.780 four on the feeling scale or was it a seven on the feeling scale? Well, and what does that got to do with

00:22:13.660 Tamara, who has been in jail since the 27th? She is not accused of organizing any protesting on Canada Day.

00:22:19.660 She wasn't even free on Canada Day. But this Benson said, oh, you know, like there were fewer

00:22:25.580 families out there on Canada Day. And, you know, the ceremonies were a little more subdued on Canada

00:22:31.980 Day. Well, that might have something to do with the Ottawa police scaring the daylights out of people

00:22:35.420 for 10 days in advance. And just blockading it and blockading and seizing flags, you know,

00:22:41.820 to ask maybe they were there. Maybe they were there protesting the fact that a little lady is a 1.00

00:22:46.620 political prisoner that can really throw a pall over your celebrations, don't you think?

00:22:50.860 Yeah. And I wonder if that cop even went to the hill to observe or if he was just regurgitating

00:22:56.060 what the CBC media told them. What a disgraceful question by a disgraceful prosecutor. It's a disgrace

00:23:01.820 that the judge allowed it. And it's a disgrace that the cop answered it as if the cop has any expertise

00:23:06.780 in feelings. But on looking at it another way, it's a perfect question because we all know this isn't

00:23:11.980 about actually solving crimes. We all know this wasn't actually about breaking the law. We all

00:23:17.740 know we are far outside the norms for bail. I've never in my life heard of anyone being imprisoned

00:23:24.220 and not granted bail for, quote, breach of, sorry, inciting malice or mischief, not malice, inciting

00:23:31.900 mischief. No one's been charged with mischief, but this little grandma is being charged with inciting 0.98

00:23:35.820 mischief that no one else has been charged with. So that's sort of weird. No bail, nine days this

00:23:41.660 time around, plus however many days the last time around. I remember my very first day as a law

00:23:48.540 student in criminal docket court and someone who received a sentence for sexual assault. I think

00:23:55.740 it was a 30 day sentence he received for sexual assault. And that's what this little granny has now 1.00

00:24:02.460 served almost, almost coming up on 30 days for for having the wrong attitude. So in that way,

00:24:08.380 that's what so the feelings question, the attitude question is highly appropriate because she's a 0.85

00:24:13.660 political prisoner and it's all about feelings. Remember, this is the same Ottawa police force

00:24:17.820 that put out a tweet a few days ago saying we're closing replies because this should be a safe place

00:24:23.340 because they were threatening people on Twitter. People were clapping back and they were censoring

00:24:28.620 people. The Ottawa police force is no longer a credible, objective, safe police force. They are

00:24:36.220 political. They are woke. They are censorious. They're coloring outside the lines of their regular authority.

00:24:41.500 And it is no surprise to me that they put arresting this this grandma ahead of actually solving crimes. What a disgrace. 1.00

00:24:47.980 Well, and you know, to put this into some larger context in Winnipeg and an Antifa member completely 0.98

00:24:56.060 weaponized by liberal and police rhetoric that convoy protesters were white supremacist, violent Nazis. 0.97

00:25:03.020 These are people who go through their life saying that I'm going to punch a Nazi. And then when the TV tells 0.96

00:25:07.900 them the Nazis are in town, what do you think they're going to do? He took his Jeep, drove into a convoy protest,

00:25:13.740 hit for them through his own ineptitude. He didn't kill them. He just injured them. He was out on bail the very

00:25:20.620 next day, the very next day. And yet Tamara, she's held in jail for nine days this time for non breach of

00:25:29.340 a non-communication condition, which is completely unheard of. And you have to remember, they tried to breach

00:25:36.060 her on conditions for simply accepting this award. They were trying to get her. They didn't want her to

00:25:42.140 attend this award ceremony. They tried to breach her before. Now they're just breaching her after the

00:25:46.940 fact. They're trying to teach her a lesson. And what a disgrace that she had to wait nine days 0.99

00:25:51.820 to get before a judge. What was the reason for keeping her in prison for nine days before getting

00:25:57.580 her before the judge? My understanding is that normally you have the right to be before a judge 0.64

00:26:03.100 in 48 hours or less. Again, just absolute politicization and corruption of our legal system

00:26:09.900 out of control. I mentioned in my opening remarks what the photo looked like and what photos are

00:26:19.900 like. And every person watching this show has taken photos before. You pause, you stay as still as you can,

00:26:26.700 and you don't talk. So she and the person she was allegedly communicating with were both in the photo

00:26:35.900 smiling, not talking. But again, that's a perfect Stalinist crime. You were photographed with another 0.67

00:26:43.900 enemy of the state. Was there any other, I guess you were watching by video. Could you detect if there

00:26:51.580 were other media covering this? I bet there were, because they hate Tamara Leach. They want her in jail. 1.00

00:26:56.940 So it's not like they would just ignore this. They hate her. What was the coverage like? Have you seen any

00:27:01.420 other coverage from the media party? You know, I, it's very difficult to start looking at everybody

00:27:06.540 else's coverage while you're trying to cover it in the corner of your, uh, ear. But, um, I know that

00:27:13.260 our, um, reporter William Diaz was in the courtroom. Oh yeah. Uh, and then, uh, from what I understand,

00:27:19.820 there were six other journalists in the courtroom, you know, probably mainstream media journalists who

00:27:25.500 need their bloodlust satiated. And then there were probably another dozen or so on the, the live

00:27:32.540 stream through zoom. But I know the judge said there were seven reporters in the courtroom.

00:27:38.380 And of course, one of them was our William. So we had two. Right. Well, I'm glad he was there. And

00:27:42.620 hopefully, you know, a couple of independent journalists were there, whether it was Rupa

00:27:46.460 Supermania, who's based in Ottawa, or I know the Epoch Times is an Ottawa reporter. So, um,

00:27:52.220 um, you know, I'm glad this is getting coverage. It'll be fascinating to see, uh, if you have

00:27:57.340 trouble wondering what the left would do with this, I mean, imagine if a black lives matter, 1.00

00:28:03.260 or I don't know more, or if, oh, I don't know, Stephen Gilboa, the, um, cabinet minister who was

00:28:10.060 a Greenpeace, uh, criminal who broke into the CN tower or broke out of it and had a whole stunt.

00:28:17.260 He was convicted. I don't think he did a day's time in prison. And imagine if you held an

00:28:23.340 environmental protester for nine days. Plus, I think she was in prison for 13 days beforehand. 1.00

00:28:28.460 Yep. So 22 days in prison. She hasn't had a trial yet. She hasn't been convicted of anything yet. 0.96

00:28:34.620 Taking a photo with someone else who's on the enemies list. Imagine what the media party would say

00:28:42.300 if any, if David Suzuki, David Suzuki, who willingly goes to commit crimes, you know, um, to be

00:28:49.820 in illegal protest, blocking things, sabotaging forestry or, or oil sand sites, he goes and

00:28:57.260 deliberately breaks the law. Imagine if he were in jail for even one night, let alone 22 nights,

00:29:03.980 the whole establishment would go nuts.

00:29:06.380 We don't have to imagine this, Ezra. We have David Suzuki saying, you know, maybe pipelines are

00:29:13.580 going to blow up. And then a short time after there's that whole work site of coastal gas link

00:29:19.900 that is absolutely trashed by, um, radical environmentalists. And nobody ever accused David

00:29:27.100 Suzuki of inciting violence and vandalism, let alone mischief. But Tamara Leach, because she said, 0.71

00:29:34.460 hold the line, hold the line. Yeah. She's in jail. Yeah. Well, I, I really think that Canada has a civil

00:29:41.500 rights problem. I don't think any of the normal checks and balances in our entire democracy are

00:29:46.620 working. The media is, um, in cahoots with Trudeau because he pays them off and they're ideologically

00:29:53.900 sympathetic to him and opposed to the truckers anyways. Um, I saw this bizarre, uh, dear diary series of

00:30:01.660 tweets from a CBC reporter today who, who despises Tamara Leach, uh, who, who, as you mentioned, 0.89

00:30:07.820 is a Métis grandma, but he denounces himself as a white man. It's the most bizarre thing to think

00:30:13.180 that such woke, corrupted journalists at the CBC and elsewhere would hold Trudeau and his abusiveness

00:30:19.740 to account as a joke. I'm worried about your live tweets about what this judge looks like. The police are

00:30:25.660 disreputable. Never obey an Ottawa police officer without challenging them because they're clearly

00:30:31.900 out of control. I'm not counseling Wallace's. I'm saying challenge them because they're clearly out 1.00

00:30:36.940 of control. And all those things you're describing right there, sorry to interrupt you, but all those

00:30:42.140 things that you're describing right there is why the convoy happened. The courts failed, the judges

00:30:47.020 failed, the bureaucracy failed, academia failed, the police failed, our churches failed, civil society

00:30:52.620 failed. And so it was to the truckers and their supporters who stood up and that's why they went

00:30:57.740 to Ottawa. All the problems you're describing, they failed. So the truckers did something.

00:31:02.380 Yeah. Well, I'm sure. I'm glad that you covered that. I would recommend to people to on our website

00:31:07.980 and on Sheila's Twitter feed, you can go and get the moment by moment, live tweeting of the trial. I

00:31:12.940 read it very informative and frankly, a little bit worrying. Sheila, thanks for championing that case.

00:31:19.740 And you do a lot of these court reports. There were other reporters there today,

00:31:22.940 but I know in the past, for example, you were literally the only journalist covering the

00:31:26.620 persecution of churches that are being shut down. And Jason Kenney, even though he's been sacked

00:31:34.540 as the leader of the United Conservative Party, he's still the premier and he's still prosecuting

00:31:38.780 and persecuting them. Thanks for doing your great work, Sheila. And you say the results of this bail

00:31:44.540 hearing should be released on Friday, is that what you said?

00:31:47.100 On Friday, yes. Friday at 1.30 Eastern time.

00:31:50.700 Again, absolutely gross. The judge has all the facts. He can issue a verbal ruling tonight.

00:31:59.580 Sure.

00:31:59.900 Or tomorrow. Why doesn't he stay up late and work through the night and issue a verbal ruling tomorrow

00:32:06.540 and then say written reasons, detailed written reasons to come later? That's what you do when you're

00:32:11.980 in a hurry. I don't know if you remember when we went to court in a real hurry.

00:32:16.380 When we were banned, when Rebel News reporters were banned from the leadership debates in the

00:32:21.900 federal election, in both cases, the judges said, I have to give an immediate ruling because this is

00:32:27.980 so urgent. Here's my immediate ruling. Reasons to come later. And frankly, those judges took months

00:32:33.500 because, you know, there was no more urgency once they let us in. Imagine being such a lazy bones. 0.82

00:32:42.140 It's Tuesday. I need Tuesday night and Wednesday, Wednesday night and Thursday, Thursday night and

00:32:49.660 Friday. I'll make my announcement because, you know, I got other things to do. And that woman can soak in 1.00

00:32:56.780 jail for another Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, another. So she'll be at 25 days pre-custody because 0.85

00:33:04.060 I'm a busy judge. I'm busy. I'm an important person. And this woman can rot in jail for three 1.00

00:33:11.980 more days because I'm so important. She can wait.

00:33:17.740 It's a disgrace. Sheila, thanks for your time. Keep up the beat. Keep up following this. We got to do it.

00:33:23.020 I will. All right. There you have it. Sheila Gunn-Reid, our favorite person, 0.83

00:33:26.940 chief reporter. Stay with us. Your letters to me are next.

00:33:41.980 Hey, welcome back. Your letters. Peculiar Lou says,

00:33:46.060 Ezra's right. Police only no force. So use the force

00:33:49.180 you have to push back. No violence because they dominate that, but stop complying or just be nice

00:33:55.420 Canadians and keep watching arbitrary rules made up to hold you down, i.e. Tamera Leach. 0.89

00:34:00.380 Yeah. Well, let me just reiterate something. And when I said earlier, challenge the Ottawa police,

00:34:05.420 I don't mean challenge them physically. You challenge a cop, you'll be killed. If you go too far, you'll be 0.96

00:34:11.740 injured for sure. They have violent force. They're physically violent. They have guns. And if you

00:34:18.780 overwhelm one, they'll call for backup. Do not be physical with police. Challenge them. Challenge

00:34:24.380 them to show you the law they're acting under. If they ask you questions, challenge them on what

00:34:29.500 authority they ask you or tell them to go to get a search warrant. Don't volunteer things. The

00:34:33.180 Ottawa police have lost the benefit of the doubt. Their police chief is the most corrupt police chief

00:34:39.180 in the country who is doing clearly abusive things, including this absurd and political

00:34:45.260 arrest of Tamera Leach. I mean, I keep reading stories about how Vladimir Putin is arresting his

00:34:49.660 critics in Moscow. And I think, yeah, boy, glad we don't have that round here. Now let's cover the

00:34:55.340 Tamera Leach story. Yes. Yes. Trottamundo says, we don't want to be seen as defying the law directly.

00:35:04.540 They weren't breaking the law. I agree. They should have just recorded everything and said, go ahead,

00:35:09.180 write the ticket for the law you just invented. I'll see you in court. I know the law. I'm a lawyer.

00:35:13.580 And the cop would have had one or two choices back down or double down and lose. You're talking

00:35:17.660 about when our friends at the democracy fund, um, Mark and Adam were there and the cops said,

00:35:24.300 move your sign. You can have it on your feet, but not on the ground. You can move it, but not have

00:35:29.180 it like just, they were making it up. They were just making it up. And I, you know, I didn't want

00:35:34.300 to challenge. I mean, Mark Joseph has the right answer. A lawyer is technically an officer of the court

00:35:39.500 and you're under certain rules for how you have to conduct yourself. But when the police make up

00:35:48.220 rules to punish civil liberties lawyers, I think, I don't know. I mean, I, listen, I wasn't there.

00:35:55.260 I wasn't there. And here I am Monday morning quarterback, but I know what I would have done.

00:35:59.980 I would have said, well, it looks like you're going to have to arrest a civil liberties lawyer.

00:36:03.180 Uh, I hope you get a big raise for that because, uh, it's going to color your career for the rest

00:36:08.780 of your life. And we're going to spend some time together in court. So if you really think that a

00:36:12.380 sign saying strengthening democracy, where we give out legal advice, it doesn't block anything,

00:36:16.860 doesn't block any path. If you really think that that's against the law, let's have a judge correct

00:36:21.660 you on that. Although for all I know, you'd go in front of one of these Trudeau judges who'd say,

00:36:25.740 no, that's criminal behavior. Uh, just don't take any selfies with anyone. I really think we're in

00:36:31.660 danger here. The rule of law is being worn out. Um, I think one of the jobs of the government

00:36:37.260 is to protect our freedoms, but I think maybe that's a foolish thought because I think government

00:36:42.700 is the worst threat to our freedoms. Well, that's our show for today. Very troubling times.

00:36:49.020 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home, good night.

00:36:52.460 We keep fighting for freedom.

00:36:53.900 Public inquiries proceedings for June 30th just ended, and we have just come out of the

00:36:59.420 Halifax Convention Center where they have been held. Today was a jam-packed full day. The primary

00:37:06.060 focus was on policing in rural communities as well as firearms and how they are used in those

00:37:12.860 communities. A round table discussion was had much like the coverage we had on the last proceedings

00:37:19.340 that took place here. They had experts in the field of psychology. They had researchers as well come

00:37:25.100 together to try to find and learn from what happened so that Canada can better manage situations that

00:37:31.580 cause mass trauma, like Canada's deadliest mass shooting. We also had a chance to speak with lawyer

00:37:39.100 Michael Scott again. He is the attorney for many of the family to the victims. Last time we talked to him

00:37:46.380 in a report you can see below, he raised concerns about the allegations of political interference.

00:37:53.020 In particular, the fact that notes that had those allegations from Superintendent Darren Campbell were

00:38:00.220 withheld by the Department of Justice. But today he raised another concern. The commission has released

00:38:06.540 their list of upcoming witnesses over the months of July and August. RCMP Commissioner Brenda Luckey,

00:38:13.820 who is at the heart of the scandal, will in fact be testifying this summer during the commission,

00:38:19.740 as well as Superintendent Darren Campbell, whose notes detail the allegations against her.

00:38:26.300 And on that list is Wartman's former common law partner, Lisa Banfield. But here's the thing,

00:38:32.780 Scott is raising concerns about this because he is not directly able to question Ms. Banfield when she comes.

00:38:39.660 There are a few principles more fundamental to our understanding of procedural fairness and justice

00:38:47.260 than, you know, we ask the questions, provided they're relevant in the audience. But I've certainly

00:38:53.260 never seen anything like this. And not only do we have to ensure that justice is done, but it has to be

00:38:58.940 seem to be done. And, you know, when we start blocking participants from being involved in a meaningful way,

00:39:07.180 it really undermines the perception that the process is transparent.

00:39:12.780 Of course, we reached out to the commission to better understand why this is the case. And this is a

00:39:17.180 summary of what they said to me in a statement. And you can find that by clicking on the link in the

00:39:22.220 description to this report. The commission's statement included the following. Given Ms. Banfield's

00:39:27.820 situation as a survivor of the perpetrator's violence and in light of the quality and quantity

00:39:32.860 of information she has already provided to the commission through five detailed interviews,

00:39:38.300 the commission believes it is in public interest that all questions asked of Ms. Banfield from

00:39:43.980 participants be asked by commission counsel. Legal counsel for all participants have the opportunity

00:39:50.460 to provide questions to commission counsel prior to her testimony. Participant counsel will then have

00:39:56.460 additional opportunities to provide further questions to commission. They added that it's important to

00:40:03.340 remember that a public inquiry is not a trial, nor is it about assigning blame. Public inquiries are about

00:40:12.620 change. You can find the full statement at the written report, which is linked in the description box below.

00:40:19.980 So that is the commission side of things. But Scott also had something to say about the fact that Ms.

00:40:25.260 Banfield was in fact abused by Wartman, but why he still should be able to question her.

00:40:31.900 But we're certainly very concerned that in the rush to fulfill the commission's mandate to address issues

00:40:38.140 that she's been a partner of violence, that we're going to miss the fact that Ms. Banfield is the most

00:40:43.580 important witness to the events of April 18th and 19th. No one knows the perpetrator better than she does,

00:40:50.780 and nobody has more information about the events leading up to the mass casualty. Now I gotta tell you,

00:40:57.740 as Lincoln behind the camera and myself are walking around asking questions in the community, learning what's

00:41:02.940 going on in the commission, reading lots of stuff, it's starting to look like everybody is just pointing

00:41:08.060 fingers at everybody. It's the RCMP's fault, it's the commission's fault, it's the government's fault.

00:41:14.700 But something interesting, somebody inside told me who prefers to remain unmained, is that if Wartman was

00:41:20.700 still alive, the focus would be on him and the trial, and he would be to blame. I thought that was just an

00:41:27.020 interesting perspective there as well. Now what's the latest on the Trudeau RCMP scandal connected to

00:41:33.340 this mass shooting? Well in my last report I mentioned that another attorney named Jamie Van Wart requested

00:41:40.140 that six documents tied to the April 28th 2020 meeting with Commissioner Brenda Luckey and other

00:41:48.220 senior management in the RCMP be made public. That included emails as well as a letter. Those documents

00:41:56.220 have in fact been made public on the Mass Casualty Commission's website. I want to read some of the

00:42:02.220 letter to you. It is insane. It is a letter from a second RCMP member, this time the former director

00:42:10.860 of communications, Leah Scanlon. And she is basically respectfully scolding Commissioner Luckey for how she

00:42:19.500 treated these police who were trying to do their best in dealing with this mass shooting.

00:42:25.740 You got to hear some of this letter but again I will link the full thing in the report. The letter

00:42:30.860 starts off by praising Superintendent Darren Campbell saying that he completed a lengthy press conference

00:42:37.420 to provide information to the public while protecting the integrity of the ongoing investigation.

00:42:43.580 She says Darren was exceptional, the best she's ever seen do this before. He achieved exactly what we set

00:42:50.540 out to accomplish and did so with poise, class, compassion and courage adding that Darren restored

00:42:57.420 a sense of pride within our membership and represented the force in a manner that we should hold as the

00:43:03.900 standard. She says shortly after the press release she was summoned on behalf of Commissioner Brenda Luckey

00:43:10.620 to have a meeting immediately. She suspected that it may have to do with the guns given that she was

00:43:17.180 asked if Darren could speak about the guns less than two hours before the press conference was scheduled

00:43:23.020 to take place. Adding that from an investigational standpoint those details could not be discussed

00:43:29.340 publicly. She says she had indicated in an email that the caliber of the guns would not be included in Darren's

00:43:36.460 remark and that it was important for her to point out that in the division they had made a commitment

00:43:42.060 that guided all of their public releases of information and that commitment was to the

00:43:47.580 families of the victims that prior to any public release they would ensure that the families were informed

00:43:55.100 first to prevent them from being re-victimized by hearing new information in the media. Scanlon then accuses

00:44:02.540 Lucky of personally attacking her and the work that they had done says that Lucky said that she perceived

00:44:09.740 their actions as a blatant sign of disrespect adding that Lucky said they had let the boys down referring to

00:44:18.300 the two young boys whose parents were brutally murdered from the mad gunman. Scanlon adds that Lucky had

00:44:26.060 informed them of the pressures and conversations she had had with then minister Bill Blair and that they then

00:44:33.500 clearly understood this was related to the upcoming passing of the gun legislation. Can you believe that?

00:44:40.780 What kind of twisted and sick mind is it if Commissioner Brenda Luckey used those two boys who had just 0.98

00:44:48.780 sat there for hours after their parents had been murdered by Wartman as a tool to try to manipulate and 0.97

00:44:55.900 shame these RCMP members into doing her bidding to further the Liberal government's

00:45:03.180 gun ban agenda on legal firearm owners which Wartman was not. And special thank you to everybody who's

00:45:10.780 come together to help us be able to do these reports. You guys have been donating at FireLucky.com so

00:45:16.860 that we could afford the economy flights to be here, the affordable accommodation, the meals on the go,

00:45:22.300 and the transportation. Thank you so much. I can't stress that enough because independent media needs to

00:45:27.980 be all over this story. Not that we're profiting but that we are covering our expenses so we're able

00:45:33.660 to bring you important news just like this. I'm Joya Humphrey and this is Rebel News.

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