Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ How Indigenous activists are repeating a key gay-rights mistake

00:00:00.160 Oh, hi everybody. There's a new bridge in British Columbia, and I can't really pronounce it,

00:00:05.860 but it's actually impossible to spell it because it's spelled in a made-up language. It's sort of

00:00:11.720 like the English letters, but it's not really. And all this is done in the name of Aboriginal

00:00:17.980 reconciliation. I think it's actually going to have the opposite effect, and I think that's

00:00:23.220 the point. I'll get into it, and I'll show you the video from on location, which is why I'd like you

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00:00:58.120 Tonight, the indigenous rights movement is making the same mistakes that the gay rights 1.00

00:01:05.520 movement did. Let me explain. It's December 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:09.940 You're fighting for freedom! Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:16.440 Did you know that support for the LGBTQ2SL Plus has fallen in recent years in North America? Fallen.

00:01:35.860 Here's a story about it in the left-wing Guardian newspaper. Here's a story about it in the left-wing

00:01:41.480 PBS publication. It's actually the website and the broadcaster. There's various explanations for it,

00:01:48.000 but I think the most compelling is when you think of what has changed in the past 10 years. What's

00:01:54.940 been the gay rights issue in the past 10 years that's defined it? Not gay marriage. That's been the law 0.99

00:02:00.840 in Canada for 20 years now, and more than a decade in the U.S. and the U.K. I think the problem,

00:02:06.980 if I may, is that instead of declaring victory 20 years ago, the gay rights movement, sometimes called

00:02:14.120 the gay pride movement, well, they kept going. They won everything they could possibly win.

00:02:20.720 Changes in the law, parades, even affirmative action. If you can believe it, Hollywood is

00:02:26.900 disproportionately gay. All the institutions, especially academia, pride month that every bank 0.99

00:02:31.880 in North America feels like a full-tilt political campaign. But instead of declaring victory,

00:02:38.400 the LGB movement added a T, transgenderism. And that fundamentally changed the movement from being 0.92

00:02:46.040 about equality, about leaving people alone, letting them be themselves, about letting people be,

00:02:52.020 about privacy. It quickly became the opposite. Transgenderism, at least as it's expressed in 0.99

00:02:59.180 politics and the law these days, has become not about equality or privacy or letting people be

00:03:04.540 who they are, or as we used to say, consenting adults or the privacy of your own home. Those are

00:03:10.280 all things that we said back then. But today, the LGBT 2Q+, SL is about foisting extreme sexuality on 0.99

00:03:21.020 other people. It's about violating other people's privacy. The most insane example of this is the

00:03:28.100 teacher nicknamed Bastille Lemieux, who wears enormous prosthetic breasts to school to teach 1.00

00:03:35.060 children, turning girls and boys in his class into a captive audience, actually, in a way, participants 0.92

00:03:42.020 in his bizarre fetish. That's not gay pride. That's not being private. That's turning other people 0.95

00:03:48.940 against their will into part of your sexual fantasy. That's the most shocking example, but it's only

00:03:55.640 slightly less shocking the transgenderism that has affected millions of people, especially in sports.

00:04:01.220 Failed male athletes suddenly declare that they're women and then compete against women, which is 0.52

00:04:07.000 cheating, and they beat women, and in the worst cases, they go into changing rooms with women. 0.59

00:04:12.920 It's actually worse in our prisons, where men who claim to be women have the right to be transferred 1.00

00:04:17.960 into women's prisons, where they now have access to women who are ordered not to misgender their new 1.00

00:04:23.640 fellow prisoners on pain of various punishments. So suddenly, gay rights isn't about letting people 0.99

00:04:30.120 choose who they love, people living their own life, their own way in privacy. It's now about forcing

00:04:36.680 other people against their will to accept intrusions into their own privacy, forcing themselves into your

00:04:43.960 bathroom, into your changing room, even into women's shelters. So yeah, LGB was hijacked by the T. 0.96

00:04:50.680 They overplayed their hands. That's why they're falling in popularity. Well, I'm here to say that

00:04:57.160 Canada's Indian bands are doing the same. For a generation, there's been a near-unanimous political

00:05:04.760 status quo in Canada that we can go above and beyond for Indigenous people, spending,

00:05:11.240 favored status, respect. And it all felt good for Canadians to do so. Even Stephen Harper,

00:05:16.600 the great conservative, increase the budget for Indian affairs. And then I think things started

00:05:23.160 to change. I don't blame Indigenous people for this one. I think it's more white liberals and

00:05:28.680 lawyers and bureaucrats and opportunists. But soon, instead of focusing on building and being positive

00:05:34.440 and creating jobs and things we can all get behind, the leading edge of Indian affairs became about race

00:05:41.080 hatred. Sort of imposing a U.S. Black Lives Matter narrative onto our country, but with Indigenous 0.98

00:05:49.080 people instead of Black people. So Justin Trudeau called it a genocide. He called Canadians genocide.

00:05:56.840 As he said, it's still going on. He actually said that. He took our first Prime Minister,

00:06:01.560 Johnny McDonald, off the $10 bill because of that reason. Statues started coming down across Canada.

00:06:08.680 Incredibly, the head of our own Supreme Court said the same thing. Genocide. People started noticing

00:06:14.760 when judges sent back violent offenders right back into their own communities without jail time or without

00:06:20.200 significant jail time because they're Indigenous, which obviously forgets about the rights of the Indigenous 0.99

00:06:25.160 community into which these violent men were being placed. My point is, things started to move

00:06:30.920 away from solidarity and equality and respect and friendship into rivalry and accusations and sourness.

00:06:38.200 I really think it's been politicized in a new way in the last decade. How many events do you go to

00:06:45.880 in your community where, before things begin at a town hall meeting or a sports event even,

00:06:52.440 you're told you're on stolen Indian land? Remembrance Day in Toronto, they started their Remembrance Day

00:07:00.200 ceremony by talking about land back and then talking about Canada's slavery history. It's absurd.

00:07:07.480 Especially when, where treaties have clearly extinguished any existing rights to the land.

00:07:13.080 Most of Canada is covered by such treaties, but it's a new religion, this land back acknowledgement, 0.85

00:07:19.160 just like LGBTQism. And let me show you what I mean. And here's why I'm talking about this. 0.90

00:07:25.880 My friends who care about Indigenous people and goodwill, this is the time to stop. This is the time to 1.00

00:07:33.480 declare victory because you're now entering the overreach moment. This is the jumping of the shark.

00:07:39.240 This is where you go too far. This is your man in the girl's swimming change room moment. Stop.

00:07:44.360 Declare victory. Do not press on further. You know about that bizarre court case in BC a few weeks ago

00:07:53.240 where a judge just said out of the blue that Indians may still have a right to land title

00:07:58.040 underneath hundreds of BC homes. Surprise! Did you think all those land acknowledgements were

00:08:02.760 meaningless? A judge thinks they're meaningful, otherwise why would you be saying it? So people,

00:08:07.480 especially in BC, are on edge already because of this. But look at this now. Pure joy in sticking

00:08:13.720 it to the man. There was an important bridge in Greater Vancouver, almost a century old,

00:08:18.120 named the Petulo Bridge, named after the former BC Premier, Duff Petulo. I didn't really know about

00:08:25.160 him, I should tell you. That bridge was replaced with the new bridge, and they've decided not to keep

00:08:31.720 the old name. The new bridge gets a new name. And here's how to pronounce it.

00:08:38.680 All right, so this was a name that was selected by Musqueam and Quandlum.

00:08:42.600 Stalbo Awesome translates to English roughly as place to view the river or river view.

00:08:47.880 And the name can be broken down into four syllables. The first is stall, stall,

00:08:54.520 as in that's a beautiful bridge. I hope my car doesn't stall.

00:08:57.640 Second syllable is oh, oh, as in, oh, that's not too hard to pronounce.

00:09:08.360 Third syllable is ah, ah, in, in, we would say ah, see, I'm the see, yeah, yeah. And the last one is

00:09:16.440 some, as in some, like the sum total. Did you get that? Now, if you say river view bridge,

00:09:25.080 well, people know how to say that, how to spell that, what it means. But look at that other word,

00:09:30.600 look at how it's spelled. Do you see how it's spelled there? What, that's not, sort of English,

00:09:38.280 but it's not, what's with the upside down E's? What are those apostrophes? Now, the government put

00:09:44.760 out a video on how to pronounce that word. Here's how you pronounce that E and that W.

00:09:50.760 The next two letters together are schwa and a glottalized W, which make an O sound.

00:09:58.600 You know, I think I could remember how to say stall O awesome. I think stall O awesome. Um,

00:10:06.840 there's some unusual names like that across Canada. You might be wondering why it's written in a version

00:10:12.280 of our own alphabet though. There was no indigenous alphabet. There was no custom of writing things down.

00:10:19.640 They call it an oral tradition. So that is a borrowed written language. It's a kind of English

00:10:25.960 made up by white linguists. I have no beef with that really. But why are you imposing that weird 0.85

00:10:33.960 alphabet and spelling on a bridge that not one in a thousand Vancouverites could read or pronounce or

00:10:41.240 write? How do you even do a backwards E? What, why aren't you even just using regular Canadian letters

00:10:48.120 in English to write the sound of the word? I'll tell you why. Because it's about pushing you around.

00:10:55.800 That's the whole point here. This is not about reconciliation anymore. It's not about equality.

00:11:01.640 This is designed to push you back, to push you around. There's no chance this would ever be

00:11:07.800 named Petula. Of course not. We're long past that. But even naming it stall O awesome isn't enough. It has

00:11:14.600 to be written in a made up scientific language that actually not a single indigenous person learned in

00:11:21.720 school because it was made up by white linguists. But, but that's all the better. You can't pronounce it 0.99

00:11:28.200 because it's not yours. Your own language isn't yours, let alone the land. Oh, by the way, the bridge was made

00:11:34.200 with Chinese steel. Of course it was. Which caused a lot of construction problems. Here's a story in

00:11:38.920 the Vancouver Sun. Chinese steel contributed to delays in construction of Petula Bridge replacement,

00:11:44.680 says advocate. Welding problems and steel from overseas can create headaches for local workers

00:11:49.880 and increase expenses, says Canadian Institute of Steel Construction CEO. But when someone tried to ask

00:11:56.920 about boring things like, uh-oh, is the bridge built okay with foreign steel? They were told to shut up. 0.89

00:12:03.560 You see, you can't ask any questions. That's some white man's tradition. Just shut up and get with 0.98

00:12:08.840 the program. Here's a video clip of that. My question is about the materials that went into 0.99

00:12:13.320 making the bridge. There has been some controversy about the steel in particular that went into making

00:12:18.360 the bridge. Some people have alleged that it caused delays or more added costs, took away jobs from

00:12:24.360 British Columbia workers. Can you please just weigh in on that?

00:12:32.520 Sorry. Again, Chief Merlin-Fabrel, Kwantlen First Nation. I thank you all for coming out,

00:12:39.880 celebrating with our nations, the Musqueam and the Kwantlen people. We're here to celebrate

00:12:48.200 celebrate for our people. This is the first bridge named from our beautiful, dear elder Larry Grant.

00:13:04.200 We, Kwantlen has the utmost respect for you and the Kwantlen people. I always, it hurts me. I have to tell you, it hurts me.

00:13:14.200 You have them all day. Please keep those questions for a side, a side press conference.

00:13:27.320 We're here to celebrate. Please don't take that beautiful, beautiful, this beautiful day away from us.

00:13:36.200 So yeah, don't ask any questions. Certainly not about the steel. Don't ask why it's written in a weird,

00:13:42.520 made-up English language that no one knows how to spell or type or read. No typewriter or computer can

00:13:48.760 type that. Don't ask why Duff Petullo is thrown into history's garbage can. Don't ask. Don't ask why the

00:13:55.080 government bought steel from China instead of from Canada. And don't you know that your role is simply

00:14:00.760 to pay for all of this and to nod along and to call yourself a settler and a colonizer and a racist 0.98

00:14:07.560 and a genocider. You know, it's almost, but not quite as stupid as Toronto renaming their version of 1.00

00:14:14.920 Times Square. It used to be called Young Dundas Square. Now the government calls it Sankofa Square. 0.98

00:14:20.360 After the allegation that Mr. Dundas was somehow pro-slavery, which he wasn't.

00:14:25.160 And the laugh is that Sankofa, which has no connection to Canada or Toronto, 0.94

00:14:30.280 is the place of African tribes who actually practice slavery. But at least they'll spell 1.00

00:14:36.520 Sankofa in English letters for you to abase yourself when you say it. I say again, there's a lot of goodwill in

00:14:43.800 Canada towards indigenous people. And I'm not against renaming certain things after indigenous

00:14:49.240 things. I come from Calgary where the famous streets have names like Crow Chow Trail and

00:14:53.960 Deerfoot Trail and Crow Foot and all these beautiful names. Think of the city Medicine Hat.

00:14:59.720 That's an English translation of an Aboriginal word. I'm not even against renaming certain

00:15:04.920 things using traditional languages, although I'll never stop calling it Deerfoot

00:15:08.680 Trail. I'm not a hundred percent opposed to renaming things, but the deliberate choice

00:15:14.520 to make it absolutely inscrutable or impenetrable to anyone other than some government paid activists

00:15:21.400 and to do so with a hubris. My friends, I tell you, we are well past reconciliation now.

00:15:27.800 We're in the danger zone now because the activists have flipped the script. They're becoming the supremacists

00:15:33.880 now in their own way. Don't do it. Don't rub it in. Don't go on the offensive. That's not reconciliation.

00:15:41.080 Like the gay pride movement, declare victory. Don't spike the football in the face 1.00

00:15:47.240 of the people who pay your bills. Just don't. Stay with us for more.

00:15:51.240 Well, my favorite civil liberties public interest law firm is, of course, the Democracy Fund. But a very

00:16:06.040 close second place are my friends at the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom. And frankly,

00:16:11.240 they've been doing it for more than a decade. They really wrote the book. Joining us now to talk to us

00:16:16.120 about two of the most interesting cases that they've recently taken is our friend John Carpe,

00:16:21.240 the boss of the Justice Center. John, great to see you again.

00:16:24.760 Glad to be with you and with your viewers and listeners.

00:16:27.400 Well, you're doing such interesting work. I want to talk to you about two cases. The first is

00:16:32.520 Frances Whittowson, who is the professor who was illegally drummed out of her position at Mount

00:16:38.520 Royal University in Calgary for being a skeptic of the wild claim that, amongst others,

00:16:45.720 that there are 215 dead children buried outside a former residential school in Kamloops, BC. No such

00:16:54.840 thing has been proven. And she keeps raising inconvenient questions. She recently went to

00:17:01.480 the University of Victoria to challenge the unchallengeable, to become what the left is calling

00:17:08.200 a denier. Let me just show you a little bit of footage about that shocking day, because that's

00:17:12.920 very relevant to what we're going to talk about. Here, take a look. This is Victoria a few days ago.

00:17:17.400 I will not leave on my own. Okay, so right now you are arrested.

00:17:21.720 Okay, so you're going to arrest me and you're going to take me into the downtown?

00:17:25.160 Off the property. Off the property? And then we'll go from there. Okay.

00:17:28.840 Back off as well! All of you over there!

00:17:32.840 Fucking Nazis are good, man! 1.00

00:17:34.840 What are your words for the public watching? 1.00

00:17:44.520 Um, this is what we've come to at academic institutions these days. You are not allowed to explore ideas on your own.

00:17:55.320 campus, and if you do, you will be arrested.

00:18:07.800 Well, um, not the people coming to harass Frances Whitteson, but Frances Whitteson herself was 0.72

00:18:15.800 ordered off the property under threat of a trespass prosecution. She declined to go. She is being

00:18:23.400 prosecuted, and John Carpe and the Justice Center are representing her in court. John, great to see

00:18:29.400 you again. Tell me a little bit more about the case. Is it just a simple trespass ticket, or is there

00:18:35.880 more behind it? What are they doing to Frances Whitteson?

00:18:38.440 Well, right now it's just, uh, it's just a trespassing ticket. I, and I, I must say I find the

00:18:45.480 double standard rather disgusting. When, when people are building tent cities, that's outside of, you

00:18:51.080 know, universities can impose reasonable rules that regulate the freedom of expression on campus.

00:18:58.600 That's okay. So for example, no tent cities, uh, no overnight displays. There's reasonable rules that

00:19:05.080 the university can, uh, create and, and can enforce, but this is somebody going on campus to speak.

00:19:14.520 This is a taxpayer funded institution. Uh, the BC government itself says that it's carrying out a

00:19:20.280 governmental purpose. And, um, it's just a double standard because she is pointing out that, that

00:19:27.560 there's just no evidence, uh, to, to substantiate the claim that there's 215 children buried at the

00:19:34.200 former Kamloops Indian residential school. So right now it's, uh, it's trespassing charges that, uh,

00:19:41.560 we're going to be fighting back against, uh, as hard as we can in court on principle. You know,

00:19:47.480 it's not, I mean, the fine is up to $2,000. That's, that's not really the issue. I'm, I'm sure

00:19:52.440 generous Canadians would, would kick him, you know, for the $2,000, but this is a very important point,

00:19:57.640 uh, on principle. Yeah. Now, are you aware were any of the thugs and I call them thugs because they

00:20:04.840 came to get physical and more importantly, to threaten, um, the police stood by as that happened.

00:20:11.240 Um, our own reporter, Drea Humphrey, who was on the scene, I'm not going to say she was assaulted,

00:20:16.600 but, but there was some very aggressive conduct. Were any, were any other people to your knowledge

00:20:23.800 charged for their misbehavior or was it only the victim, Francis Whittowson, who was charged?

00:20:30.280 It's a victim and it's a pattern I've seen for decades. Uh, you know, uh, in particular pro-life,

00:20:37.000 groups on campus who are putting out an unpopular message and they get harassed and intimidated and

00:20:44.200 bullied and, and sometimes physically assaulted and, you know, police just stand by and, and pretend

00:20:50.280 that somehow it's the fault of these students peacefully expressing their opinions, that they

00:20:56.120 are the problem, that they are the threat to safety. And then they get censored because they're

00:21:00.520 supposedly a threat to security. And it's, it's just, it's very, very twisted thinking because yeah,

00:21:06.440 there is a threat to safety. There is a threat to security. It's coming from people who are thugs,

00:21:12.120 who don't want to engage in, in debate. They don't want to listen to, uh, an opposing point of view. 0.65

00:21:17.320 And, uh, it's, it's high time for provincial politicians to, uh, read the riot act to the

00:21:23.880 universities and tell them to clean up your act or else you're not going to get the taxpayer funding.

00:21:29.560 Yeah. Speaking of the riot act, I mean, you, you point out that there were

00:21:32.760 pro Hamas encampments across Canada for weeks or even months, no trespass tickets there, but, uh, a

00:21:39.720 slightly elderly female professor standing politely will better put the police on her. That's pretty 1.00

00:21:47.800 gross. University of Victoria has always been a bit of a censorship leftist place. I regret,

00:21:52.760 and they lived down to their reputation. I want to talk about another case that you guys are taking

00:21:56.840 on because I think it involves a friend of Rebel News named Heather Mason. She's a former prisoner who

00:22:03.400 has very bravely talked about what it's like in women's prisons in 2025. And actually for several

00:22:11.720 years now, Justin Trudeau in one of his first reforms to Corrections Canada allowed anyone to

00:22:21.080 simply declare that they're a woman. They don't even have to be, you know, appearing as a woman. They

00:22:28.120 just have, they don't have to express as a woman. They just have to identify as a woman. They can 0.97

00:22:33.800 have a beard. They can have a baritone voice and they immediately get treated as a woman. For example, 0.85

00:22:41.400 any body searches, and of course there are searches in prison all the time, must then be done by a

00:22:47.080 female. If a male prisoner says, I'm a gal now, now the guards who search him have to be female.

00:22:57.880 Many of the people who suddenly declare that they're women are actually sex convicts who

00:23:03.480 committed some sexual offense and who know that they would be targeted by other, let me say,

00:23:09.240 more moral prisoners. There's even a moral hierarchy in prison where if someone is a child

00:23:14.840 molester, very often they have to be segregated because the regular prisoners would kill them.

00:23:19.320 Believe it or not, there are some ethics that even murderers and robbers have. So if you're a sex 0.99

00:23:24.680 predator, convicted and sent to prison, why on earth wouldn't you immediately declare that you're 0.99

00:23:30.760 a woman? You get out of the more dangerous men's prison, you get to go to a women's prison, 1.00

00:23:37.480 and if you happen to be a sexual pervert yourself, well what a delight to be engaging with your 0.98

00:23:43.960 victims who are forced to deal with you. Imagine being a female prison guard being forced to deal 1.00

00:23:50.680 with a man in an intimate way such as a search. And one thing I learned from Heather Mason before

00:23:56.680 I'm coming to you John in a second, I'm just telling you the stories I know, is that in at least one

00:24:01.320 prison in Canada, female prisoners who are new mothers can keep their children with them until I 1.00

00:24:09.400 think they're age four or something. So you have prisons that are more like a kind of a dorm

00:24:16.280 where moms and their babies are in prison together, which sort of makes sense.

00:24:22.280 Imagine a man being allowed into a women's prison. Well John, tell me a little bit about the case 0.90

00:24:27.400 because I have a press release from your organization here called Women's Rights Group Seeks Court 0.67

00:24:31.560 Approval to Challenge Policy Allowing Biological Males in Women's Prisons. So tell me a little bit about 0.64

00:24:37.960 that because that's been going on now for pretty much a decade. But who cares, right? No one stands

00:24:44.760 up for a female prisoner and they're not allowed to stand up for themselves. Heather Mason also told me 1.00

00:24:49.560 that if you speak out against this in prison, you get your rights taken away, you're punished.

00:24:53.720 If you don't call these men ma'am, if you don't use their new names, if you don't say, you know, if you

00:25:02.360 misgender them, you'll be punished by the prison. So you're not even allowed to act in your own defense 0.97

00:25:10.280 if you're a female in prison. What are you doing? Tell me what the JCCF plans to do.

00:25:16.440 Well, it's not just whether or not you get punished, but it's also a fear of jeopardizing your

00:25:23.160 chance for parole for early release. If you are deemed to be transphobic, that does not reflect

00:25:29.480 well on you. So there's kind of a self-censorship component to it as well, where the female prisoners 1.00

00:25:35.640 are not going to speak out. As you described, the policy was changed in 2017, and this was the bill

00:25:42.360 that added gender identity and gender expression to the Criminal Code and to the Canadian Human Rights

00:25:50.360 Code and not long thereafter, the federal prisoners to comply with Trudeau's legislation. It became

00:25:59.480 instantaneous that if you were in a male prison and you declare that you identify as a woman,

00:26:08.280 that declaration by itself is enough to get you transferred. The way it used to be prior to 2017,

00:26:13.320 there were transfers, but only serious men who were quite serious about their transition who had

00:26:21.480 the surgery, no longer had their male parts, they were allowed to transfer into women's prisons. And 1.00

00:26:27.480 that did not pose a threat to the women in women's prisons because these guys took their transgender 0.99

00:26:36.360 surgery journey very seriously, and they were not a threat. But starting in 2017, so it's been going

00:26:42.440 on for eight years, and the federal government so far is not backing down. They could get rid of the

00:26:47.240 court action simply by changing the policy, and they would succeed in having the court action

00:26:52.040 declared moot, and it would be moot, but they're not budging. So the Justice Center is providing lawyers

00:26:58.760 for a women's group. We've filed our papers, and what's coming up next in March is a hearing to

00:27:09.240 confirm that it can be the women's group that moves forward and that we will not be required to have

00:27:16.040 individual female applicants because it's a lot harder and it's a big privacy violation. 1.00

00:27:22.840 Got it. And that group, again, Rebel News, we're familiar with them,

00:27:26.440 Canadian Women's Sex-Based Rights, CAUSE BAR, sort of hard to remember acronym. Well, I hope they're

00:27:33.720 successful. What is your argument? What is your cause of action? Is it a charter complaint saying

00:27:41.240 that women's rights are being violated? What are you trying to tell the court that the government got 0.98

00:27:48.360 wrong? So we argue that the policy should be struck down because it violates the charter Section 7

00:27:54.440 right to life, liberty, and security of the person. You still have these rights in prison. I mean,

00:28:01.320 being sentenced to a jail term obviously impacts your liberty rights, but it's justified if there's

00:28:07.720 been a fair trial and you've been fairly convicted. But you still have a right to life, liberty, and

00:28:12.760 security of the person. In particular, the security of the person, you have that in prison. So women should 1.00

00:28:18.760 not be subjected to what is going on, sexual harassment, kind of peeping Tom's men hanging

00:28:26.840 around the change rooms and bathrooms and showers and so on. Cases of sexual assault. We're familiar

00:28:34.600 with one instance where there was a support group of survivors of sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse,

00:28:43.320 so a women survivor groups group, and this is pretty much 100% the perpetrator was male. They have to put

00:28:50.200 up with a trans-identifying male to come in to their support group for women recovering from childhood

00:28:59.160 sexual abuse. They've got to have a guy sitting there pretending to be a woman. It's just outrageous. 0.99

00:29:06.600 So we're seeking to have the policy struck down. There's also a charter section 15 equality rights

00:29:11.720 argument that the women are not getting the same level of safety that men are getting in men's

00:29:18.520 prisons. But I think that the strongest one is the security of the person argument.

00:29:24.760 Well, I think this is a very important case. Do you have a date yet for the hearing, or is it

00:29:29.880 still too preliminary?

00:29:30.840 The hearing is going to be in March. So this is a preliminary hearing to confirm that the action

00:29:38.520 can move ahead with the plaintiff being the cause bar, the women's, the group advocating for sex-based

00:29:45.880 rights, meaning biological reality, sex-based rights. That's going to be heard in March, and then

00:29:54.440 we'll see what happens and go from there.

00:29:56.040 Well, it's a very important case, and it's the kind of case you would think feminists would take, 1.00

00:30:01.720 the traditional civil liberties groups would take, and the fact that…

00:30:04.840 Oh no. Oh no.

00:30:06.600 Yeah, that shows how outdated I am. Anything challenging?

00:30:09.800 You're not going to have the LEAF, the Women's Legal Education Action Fund, this feminist group that was at 1.00

00:30:16.360 the forefront of all kinds of issues, abortion laws, divorce laws, custody and access.

00:30:29.160 They've been these leading feminists, and now they are not opposed to men transferring into

00:30:35.480 a women's prison simply by declaring themselves to be women. 1.00

00:30:38.280 Yeah. Yeah. It's sort of pitiful how the traditional feminists have absolutely abandoned 1.00

00:30:45.640 real women with this onslaught of trans extremism. John, keep up the good fight. Folks, if you want 0.93

00:30:50.920 to learn more about these two cases or other cases taken by John and his Justice Center, go to jccf.ca.

00:31:00.520 Thanks a lot, John. We'll talk to you again soon.

00:31:03.240 Have a good evening.

00:31:03.960 You too. Cheers.

00:31:08.280 Oh, hey. Welcome back. Your letters to me. Some of them are about my rambling rant about robots.

00:31:20.600 Oswald JH says, not to worry, since AI is a human invention, it will do what humans do best, fail.

00:31:29.320 Well, maybe. If you think of it as a super smart chess-playing computer, I mean, we're at the point where

00:31:37.880 I think a computer can beat even the best chess master, and that was years ago. I think computing

00:31:43.400 is so much faster now. How do I just see evidence that it's smarter than people, it knows more than

00:31:49.320 people? I'm not saying people can't beat it, but I just think expecting it to fail on its own, I just

00:31:55.720 I don't think that's likely to happen. And there's competing AIs too. There's the North American ones, but then there's

00:32:02.360 Chinese AI. I'm worried about that. Next letter from Sun Sun 108 says, AI isn't causing the collapse,

00:32:10.040 it's exposing it. People yell at robots because they've lost trust in institutions and lost control

00:32:15.160 over their lives. Robot girlfriends and sex dolls aren't a tech trend. They're a symptom of loneliness, 0.95

00:32:20.360 social decay, and people retreating from a world that is no longer makes sense to them. The tech isn't

00:32:25.800 fucked up, excuse me, the state of society is. Oh, I'm not denying any of that. In fact, that's part of 0.98

00:32:30.920 my point, is that this tech solution, this replacement for people is coming at a time when we've been

00:32:39.240 atomized worse than ever. I'm agreeing with you in a way. The fact that young people are so insular, 0.99

00:32:46.840 they're addicted to their phones, that COVID taught us to stay isolated. Yes, of course, I agree all that.

00:32:53.560 That's why we're particularly susceptible now, and enter into that robots who already right now

00:32:59.960 can be great conversationalists who never run out of patience for you, and then add in the physical

00:33:04.840 touch element. I'm very worried. Janice Zed G says, a thief will only rob you. A politician will even

00:33:12.840 rob your unborn grandchildren, enriching themselves. None of them deserve even a penny. Well, you know,

00:33:19.000 there's some government control of AI, but there's also corporations with control over AI. I really

00:33:24.280 like Elon Musk, but I mean, he and some of these other gazillionaires, they're operating on levels

00:33:30.760 that we don't sometimes even understand. What I like about Elon Musk is he's fighting for freedom

00:33:35.800 of speech through Twitter, that I think he's been a good force for fighting against government

00:33:41.320 waste and corruption. I think he's an important voice against mass immigration that is culturally misfit. 1.00

00:33:46.680 I don't understand some of his projects. I don't know the final state of affairs with robots or

00:33:52.280 Neuralink. I know that the future is coming faster than ever, and I'm not sure if we're ready to handle 0.98

00:33:57.960 it. I know that's not a very decisive and conclusive thing to say. I'm still trying to figure it out.

00:34:04.120 That's our show for the day. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:34:08.840 to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - December 10, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ How Indigenous activists are repeating a key gay-rights mistake

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