Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ I Found Canada's Worst Cop (He's Awful!)

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I introduced you a man, I put it to you, is Canada's worst cop.

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00:00:46.520 Tonight, I think I might have found Canada's worst cop. It's June 14th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:52.840 Do you know who police are when they're at their best? They're selfless servants who help us and

00:01:19.540 who sometimes pay the ultimate price for it. They're the kind of people who run towards danger

00:01:24.380 when the rest of us are running away. On 9-11, for example, hundreds of firefighters

00:01:29.040 died in the Twin Towers, but so did 60 cops running into the towers to help save lives.

00:01:35.740 When you're in trouble late at night, you don't call a social worker or a political pundit. They

00:01:42.020 don't even answer the phones. Who's on guard 24 hours a day? Who responds in minutes? The police.

00:01:47.900 I say all this because police can be the best among us. To serve and protect is a common police force

00:01:54.140 motto. Maintien le droit is the motto of the RCMP. That's French for uphold the right. It could also

00:02:00.680 be interpreted as uphold the law. Those are the best people, and we take them for granted 99% of the

00:02:08.220 time when we don't need them. Most criticism of police, I think, is fake. It's political posturing

00:02:13.560 in the U.S., but also now in Canada. There's a defund the police movement. Yeah, how's that working

00:02:20.280 out for you? I notice that the defund the police politicians sure aren't shy about calling for the

00:02:26.120 police to protect them personally. So that's cops, and I say all this because I have to remind myself

00:02:32.320 about all this. I have to keep thinking about those cops rushing into the burning Twin Towers,

00:02:37.040 the police saving lives, because I have to keep that memory alive in my mind so that I'm not poisoned

00:02:43.380 by the hundreds, literally hundreds of examples of abusive, illegal, unconstitutional policing

00:02:51.080 that I have seen in the past 15 months of the pandemic. I mean, just our own reporters here in Canada.

00:02:56.740 I'm not in a crowd. I'm not in a crowd of 20, though. My colleague is detained. I have to stay.

00:03:25.560 Let's go. I'm on public property. No, man. Put your mask on. I'm not in a group of 20, though.

00:03:32.720 Hey, do I sit down the wire? Hey. I'm not in a group of...

00:03:37.720 Are you holding to me? Are you hiding your name?

00:03:42.020 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Keep your distance. Hey, hey.

00:03:44.760 Get it, hey, hey, hey.

00:03:45.800 Do you want to get arrested for that?

00:03:49.180 You're going to arrest me?

00:03:50.560 Here are the bugs. Here are the bugs. Here are the bugs. Here come the bugs.

00:03:53.860 Shame proceeds!

00:04:14.420 I'm in media

00:04:16.700 take a piece of I ask you to go to the sidewalk

00:04:20.020 you're on the street

00:04:22.060 Yeah, I'm in the middle of moving.

00:04:23.600 You're talking to me.

00:04:24.660 Can you not shine at it?

00:04:26.480 I don't know who you are.

00:04:27.540 I also don't know who you are.

00:04:29.620 I'm constable Robert, 6-4-7-3.

00:04:32.160 OK.

00:04:33.240 And who are you?

00:04:34.800 I'm giving you my papers.

00:04:36.160 No problem.

00:04:36.720 Just...

00:04:37.420 OK.

00:04:38.240 What?

00:04:41.340 Who are you, sir?

00:04:42.600 I'm with Rebel News.

00:04:44.200 I'm not media Jewish.

00:04:45.800 Who are you?

00:04:46.800 And the police obsession with our Australian reporter, Abiyamini.

00:04:50.940 It was quite peaceful.

00:04:52.260 Until...

00:04:52.820 This guy here is not here for any purposes or reasons.

00:04:55.580 Abiy, let's go to!

00:04:56.540 He's under arrest.

00:04:58.280 But this guy here is going to be placed under arrest right now.

00:05:01.020 I'm under arrest.

00:05:03.480 I'm media.

00:05:04.680 I am media.

00:05:06.280 I'm media.

00:05:09.300 I've got my permit in my pocket.

00:05:13.060 My permit is in my pocket.

00:05:15.120 I'm fine.

00:05:15.660 I'm fine.

00:05:16.120 Or recording devices, because you don't want to be recorded.

00:05:18.620 Do you remember how that happened?

00:05:19.520 In the back of the police vehicle?

00:05:20.980 What is it going on?

00:05:21.540 In the back.

00:05:22.880 Thank you.

00:05:24.460 Music, go.

00:05:25.220 You're second.

00:05:26.580 Guys, this...

00:05:27.300 Look, I don't want to go, so they're going to have to physically take me.

00:05:30.340 You can see here, it's against my will.

00:05:32.540 You can see here, guys.

00:05:33.880 It's against my will.

00:05:35.000 You can see here, I'm getting forced.

00:05:37.280 I'm pushed to the bank.

00:05:38.320 What's this?

00:05:46.700 Hi, Avi.

00:05:47.160 My name's Alex.

00:05:47.820 I'm from Dandenong Police Station.

00:05:49.340 I've just got a letter here for you.

00:05:51.280 You guys.

00:05:51.700 I'm from the Assistant Commissioner.

00:05:53.320 It's in relation to the protest tomorrow, mate.

00:05:55.660 What's your name?

00:05:56.460 First Constable Alex Lyons from Dandenong.

00:05:58.240 Who we got here?

00:05:59.500 So this is a letter to...

00:06:01.320 What's it about?

00:06:02.440 It's in relation to the protest tomorrow, mate.

00:06:04.120 Yeah, so what's the letter you're sending me from the Commissioner?

00:06:07.600 The contents are for yourself to have a read.

00:06:11.020 Why is he sending me letters?

00:06:13.240 What's that?

00:06:13.720 Why is he sending me letters?

00:06:15.340 What time is it?

00:06:17.600 It is 8.30.

00:06:19.240 Mate, we've got several letters to deliver, so we're going to be off.

00:06:22.520 Hold on.

00:06:23.140 Are you going to Channel 7, Channel 9?

00:06:25.360 Are you going to Channel 10's house tonight?

00:06:27.340 That's just our people.

00:06:28.760 Here's a case we're helping in our fight the fines battle.

00:06:31.480 I can't show you any more of that because I get disturbed for days watching that video.

00:06:58.400 This was just a week ago.

00:06:59.600 This major, and record this.

00:07:02.320 It's online.

00:07:02.840 You can record it.

00:07:04.240 Jump out, mate.

00:07:04.780 I'm not jumping out.

00:07:05.600 I've done nothing wrong.

00:07:07.880 I'm happy for you guys to just leave me alone.

00:07:11.220 I'm happy for you guys to just leave me alone.

00:07:13.920 Record this major.

00:07:15.460 You're embarrassing me.

00:07:17.100 I've committed no crime and you know it.

00:07:19.580 That's Australia, but it's here in Canada too.

00:07:22.480 I mean, why is a police SWAT team taking down a Christian pastor in the middle of a busy

00:07:27.380 highway, making him kneel down on the street while cars whiz by in the rain?

00:07:32.380 He's not charged with a crime.

00:07:34.340 Why did they do that in the highway?

00:07:37.080 Why did they arrest and jail this pastor in front of his children?

00:07:41.800 Why did they arrest and jail this pastor for 35 days?

00:07:45.060 Why did this out-of-control cop scream at and swear at and threaten to taser a kid for being

00:07:51.400 on an outdoor ice rink?

00:07:53.020 It was actually an official city ice rink officially open.

00:07:56.060 Get down on the ground.

00:07:57.640 Down on the ground.

00:07:58.600 Why are you guys grabbing?

00:07:59.780 You guys just need to knock off.

00:08:01.480 Hey, orcs, orcs, orcs.

00:08:03.200 Get up, boy.

00:08:04.260 Ocean, get on the f***ing ground before you taser. 1.00

00:08:06.760 Get on the ground.

00:08:07.960 Why are you guys getting on the f***ing ground?

00:08:10.100 Why did police literally barge into a church in Ontario?

00:08:21.500 Amen.

00:08:23.680 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is David Miller.

00:08:30.020 Here's the mic.

00:08:31.660 I'm a court enforcement officer, commonly known as a sheriff.

00:08:35.600 I have a valid court order here today requiring the sheriff, that's me, and the assistance

00:08:42.480 of the police to vacate everyone from the building, and we will be locking the building.

00:08:49.780 Why did police fine a man for sitting in his car alone drinking coffee?

00:08:53.760 If you come back, you will not be trespassing.

00:08:55.900 Does that include every Tim Hortons in town?

00:08:57.940 No, that's just one here in Hampton.

00:08:59.400 Just this one.

00:09:00.140 Just this one.

00:09:00.740 So if you come back, you're trespassing.

00:09:02.640 There's your ticket.

00:09:03.820 Leave the parking lot now.

00:09:05.020 Another one.

00:09:06.040 Next one goes up to $1,000.

00:09:07.840 Really?

00:09:08.540 Yes.

00:09:09.200 You can get up to $10,000.

00:09:10.620 How many have you given out today?

00:09:12.020 You're the first.

00:09:13.480 Well, I feel so good about that.

00:09:15.320 You're lucky.

00:09:15.700 You're the first.

00:09:16.180 You're the first asshole. 0.73

00:09:17.060 What's that?

00:09:17.840 See my point?

00:09:18.860 I am so disgusted by the gross misconduct of so many police these days that I have to

00:09:23.420 work hard to remind myself that police aren't just Gestapo-like bullies.

00:09:29.940 Please get out.

00:09:31.340 Get out of this property.

00:09:32.500 Immediately get out.

00:09:33.680 Get out of this property.

00:09:37.000 Immediately.

00:09:38.000 Out.

00:09:38.400 I don't want to hear anything.

00:09:39.700 Out of this property.

00:09:41.000 Immediately.

00:09:41.540 I don't want to hear a word.

00:09:43.020 Out.

00:09:44.400 Out.

00:09:44.920 Out.

00:09:45.920 Out of this property.

00:09:47.100 Out.

00:09:47.300 Out.

00:09:47.820 Out.

00:09:48.300 Out.

00:09:48.740 Out.

00:09:48.820 Out.

00:09:49.820 Out.

00:09:50.820 Out.

00:09:51.820 Out.

00:09:52.820 Out.

00:09:53.820 Out.

00:09:54.820 Out.

00:09:55.820 Out.

00:09:56.820 Out.

00:09:57.820 Out of this property.

00:09:59.020 Immediately out.

00:10:01.240 Immediately go out and don't come back.

00:10:04.420 I don't want to talk to you.

00:10:05.420 I don't want to talk to you.

00:10:06.360 I don't want to talk to you.

00:10:06.880 Not a word.

00:10:07.660 Out of this property.

00:10:08.880 Out of this property.

00:10:10.460 Immediately out.

00:10:11.960 I don't care what you have to say.

00:10:15.060 Out.

00:10:16.280 Out.

00:10:17.280 Out of this property you Nazis. 0.99

00:10:20.200 Out.

00:10:21.380 Out.

00:10:21.980 Imagine that.

00:10:26.080 A pack of cops going into a church with guns.

00:10:28.880 I have to remind myself of the great police too.

00:10:32.360 The selfless ones.

00:10:33.600 The ones who actually.

00:10:34.680 What's that called again?

00:10:36.520 That thing they used to do?

00:10:37.840 Oh right.

00:10:38.160 The cops that actually fight against crime.

00:10:41.420 I have to remind myself of those ones.

00:10:43.140 The good guys.

00:10:44.480 Don't forget them.

00:10:45.560 Don't judge all cops by the bad apples.

00:10:49.260 So do you have my position?

00:10:50.320 I like police who do police work.

00:10:52.360 I have no time for police who engage in thuggery.

00:10:55.520 Especially at the behest of politicians.

00:10:57.280 I mean seriously.

00:10:58.740 This was because a barbecue restaurant was still selling sandwiches.

00:11:02.280 Sorry that's not police work.

00:11:22.660 That's a political shock and awe campaign.

00:11:24.740 To scare people into not protesting.

00:11:27.140 Scare people into political submission.

00:11:28.880 There were children at that restaurant when the riot police charged on their horses.

00:11:33.540 So, so gross.

00:11:34.920 Or this from outside Toronto.

00:11:49.100 Or this.

00:11:50.840 Brian Pallister, the Premier of Manitoba, tells a Canadian citizen, Maxime Bernier,

00:11:55.240 who happens to be the leader of a political party, not to set foot in his province.

00:11:59.600 Bernier does, and he's arrested.

00:12:04.120 Afternoon, sir.

00:12:04.840 Yes, yes.

00:12:05.420 I'm in the Park with the RCMP.

00:12:06.560 Yeah.

00:12:06.760 I can get you to step out of the vehicle.

00:12:07.800 I'm going to place you under arrest right now.

00:12:09.040 Yeah.

00:12:15.320 Right now, you're under arrest under the provincial health orders.

00:12:18.500 Okay, so if you could just put your hands behind your back, face towards the vehicle.

00:12:22.680 Okay, give me one hand here.

00:12:23.740 I'll get you to see the vehicle, okay?

00:12:25.960 Yep.

00:12:27.760 The other hand.

00:12:29.500 Do you have any weapons or anything on you, sir?

00:12:31.580 Weapon?

00:12:32.080 No, no weapon.

00:12:32.960 Anything on you that's going to hurt me or anything like that?

00:12:35.460 Sorry?

00:12:35.980 Anything on you that's going to hurt me or anything like that?

00:12:37.720 No, no, anything will hurt you.

00:12:39.200 Only my words.

00:12:40.020 Only my philosophy.

00:12:41.180 Only what I believe in.

00:12:42.280 Okay.

00:12:42.960 All right, come on over this way.

00:12:43.860 So is that how it works now?

00:12:45.320 A Premier of Provence can have his enemies arrested, handcuffed, jailed.

00:12:49.280 Why was he handcuffed?

00:12:51.060 Was Maxime Bernier a violent threat?

00:12:54.060 Why was he jailed?

00:12:55.340 Why were police involved at all?

00:12:57.140 What crime is he alleged to have committed?

00:12:59.580 So you can see why I have to keep reciting my mantra.

00:13:02.720 It's not all cops like this.

00:13:04.540 Cops save our lives. 0.78

00:13:06.000 Cops are there when we were in trouble.

00:13:08.280 Well, not all the time.

00:13:09.340 Our reporters were covering an anti-lockdown protest in Toronto, and someone threw projectiles

00:13:14.620 down at them from a high apartment.

00:13:16.660 The police were right there, but they couldn't be bothered to do anything.

00:13:20.400 They literally told us, go to the police station and fill it out, some paperwork.

00:13:24.660 They brought it in.

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00:13:56.940 So yeah, just close your eyes and think of a time when police were the good guys.

00:14:05.460 Hang on to that. I'm sure trying to.

00:14:08.060 I should probably start an award for best cop of the year

00:14:12.400 because I need to hear more stories like that.

00:14:14.880 I need to hear more good news about police like that.

00:14:18.440 Because I have to tell you, I think I might have found the worst cop in Canada.

00:14:22.480 The worst. Not the most violent.

00:14:24.960 That dishonor probably goes to the Toronto police.

00:14:28.620 What a disgrace they've been.

00:14:30.160 Not the most corrupt cop that dishonor goes to the Montreal police.

00:14:34.000 And it's not even close.

00:14:36.200 The cop I found is not the stupidest cop.

00:14:38.900 That goes to the town of Elmer, Ontario.

00:14:42.820 No, I think I've just found the worst cop.

00:14:45.840 You might think I'm talking about this loser,

00:14:48.880 by-law officer Michael Giesbrecht,

00:14:51.480 who literally gave a ticket to our head of video,

00:14:55.000 Efron Monsanto, for the crime of shaking someone's hands.

00:15:02.140 Hey, Efron.

00:15:03.200 How's it going, man?

00:15:04.220 Officer Giesbrecht, city of Hamilton by-law.

00:15:06.760 I have you here in violation of the reopening of Ontario Act,

00:15:10.400 gathering with a crowd of more than five people.

00:15:12.400 So that's a pre-written ticket again, just for the record?

00:15:14.920 I had the ticket made up inside when I saw you out here.

00:15:18.200 So what were they doing exactly when I was talking to one of the protesters here?

00:15:20.700 I saw you walking around, getting within three meters.

00:15:22.660 Oh, that's how it is.

00:15:23.400 So if I just talk to someone, that's within two meters?

00:15:25.560 I also watch you shaking their hand.

00:15:27.520 Oh, I guess I'm breaking a law there.

00:15:29.560 Okay, you got me there.

00:15:30.580 What a loser that by-law cop is.

00:15:33.000 What a disgrace.

00:15:33.960 What a fool.

00:15:34.900 What an embarrassment.

00:15:36.340 I'm pretty cool with tattoos.

00:15:38.700 You know, they're not for me, but I don't really care.

00:15:40.500 I like making conversation with people, asking what their tattoos are all about.

00:15:44.400 Great way to make friends.

00:15:46.040 But I really think that handshaking cop has a My Little Pony tattoo on his arm.

00:15:51.800 Can you make that out?

00:15:53.060 I think that's a unicorn or something, but I think it's actually a My Little Pony tattoo.

00:16:01.260 It sounds about right for a cop handing out a ticket for handshaking.

00:16:05.000 What an embarrassment to the profession he is.

00:16:07.020 But Michael Giesbrecht is not the worst cop in Canada.

00:16:10.860 In fact, I'm not even sure if he counts as a cop.

00:16:13.400 He's just a by-law officer.

00:16:15.120 I hereby nominate Staff Sergeant Dan McLean of the Peterborough Police as the worst cop in Canada.

00:16:22.520 And if you think I'm wrong, I challenge you to tell me a worse one.

00:16:26.520 Again, not the most violent.

00:16:27.700 That's Toronto.

00:16:28.460 Not the most corrupt.

00:16:29.380 That's Montreal.

00:16:30.140 Not the dumbest.

00:16:30.800 That's Elmer.

00:16:31.500 Not the most politicized.

00:16:32.820 That would be Trudeau's RCMP.

00:16:34.520 I just mean the worst.

00:16:35.200 So our friend, our great reporter, David Menzies, great journalist.

00:16:39.440 In fact, he's the winner of the Rebbe Award for pandemic journalism.

00:16:42.520 He's unstoppable.

00:16:43.620 He covers everything.

00:16:45.800 Even from the very early days when we didn't know much about the virus, he would go to the airport and report on all the planes landing from China.

00:16:51.960 And as you can see, David would sometimes wear a mask where appropriate.

00:16:55.100 But of course, it doesn't make sense to wear a mask when you're outside.

00:16:59.220 And when you're a reporter, reporters have to speak into a microphone or speak to other people.

00:17:04.160 They don't wear masks doing that.

00:17:06.460 I also know this because Justin Trudeau has showed me that.

00:17:10.480 I mean, here's Trudeau just over the weekend at the G7 meeting, no mask, right next to a bunch of other strangers without masks.

00:17:15.940 So it's good enough for him.

00:17:16.940 It's good enough for us, right?

00:17:19.400 So David was covering a news event in Peterborough in April where various people, including Randy Hillier and Maxime Bernier, were protesting the lockdowns.

00:17:29.160 And by the way, covering the news is considered an essential service.

00:17:32.740 And a lot of other media were there, too.

00:17:34.260 It was big news.

00:17:35.720 There was a couple of months ago.

00:17:36.640 But then David gets this delivered to his home, a summons to court for covering that event in Peterborough.

00:17:44.920 David is being charged with violating Section 10-1 of the Reopening Ontario Act.

00:17:50.140 What a laugh that misleading law is called.

00:17:54.000 Section 10-1 is a basic enforcement of anti-gathering orders.

00:17:57.920 So that order can be pre-existing or a cop can announce it on the spot.

00:18:01.340 But look at this.

00:18:03.320 Compliance with order.

00:18:04.200 Every individual who is on the premises shall comply with the order to temporarily close the premises by promptly vacating the premises after being informed of the order.

00:18:13.400 David was not told of any order to close any premises or leave any place.

00:18:16.820 And David was not there as part of any gathering, but rather as a journalist reporting on him.

00:18:21.180 This is obviously junk law harassing David because he's the Rebbe Award-winning journalist covering the pandemic, telling the story the media party won't and the political class hates.

00:18:31.380 Because he's not a government shill.

00:18:32.960 Anyway, so it's a summons and obviously we've provided a lawyer for David.

00:18:37.240 We're going to fight this all the way.

00:18:38.720 And we asked the prosecutor, the police, for what's called disclosure.

00:18:42.160 That's the police case against David.

00:18:44.320 It's all their notes.

00:18:45.500 In Canadian law, the cops have to give you a copy in advance of everything they have and not just what they want to give you, but everything, including things that could exculpate you.

00:18:54.580 And we got the disclosure from the cops.

00:18:57.640 You can see the front page here.

00:18:59.040 And it is amazing and it is disgraceful and it is embarrassing to the police, I mean.

00:19:04.960 And it's why I am nominating Staff Sergeant Dan McClain of the Peterborough Police as Canada's worst cop.

00:19:10.360 Now, it's 22 pages long.

00:19:12.860 A lot of it is just weird.

00:19:14.760 And a reminder of how much power and information the government has about you.

00:19:18.000 I don't mean to embarrass young David Menzies, but they disclosed every speeding ticket the lad ever had, including one going back almost 40 years.

00:19:25.620 I'm serious.

00:19:26.100 They've included the fact that in 1981, David Menzies ran a yellow light.

00:19:31.620 Do you see that there?

00:19:33.000 Capital punishment is too lenient for such a criminal.

00:19:37.360 Let me read for you excerpts from the complaint typed up by Staff Sergeant Dan McClain in his official report, which is why David's being charged.

00:19:46.960 Going back to the summer of 2020, several community members and organizations have been organizing demonstrations to protest against the provincial government's COVID-19 restrictions.

00:19:56.100 Members of these groups have been holding demonstrations every Saturday out front of City Hall on George Street.

00:20:01.960 These demonstrations have grown from 10 to 15 participants to between 500 and 600 persons.

00:20:07.880 The defendant, David Menzies, lives in Richmond Hill, Ontario, and is a reporter for the Rebel News media outlet.

00:20:13.500 Menzies is active on social media in the anti-lockdown movement across southern Ontario.

00:20:18.640 Hang on, hang on, stop there for a second.

00:20:20.080 That's not true.

00:20:21.440 David is actually the least active person on social media in our company.

00:20:25.280 To be candid, I'm not sure if he even knows how to do that stuff.

00:20:29.280 The only thing he ever tweets on Twitter, for example, are simply rebel news stories that he himself starred in.

00:20:36.880 That's it.

00:20:37.500 You'll never see him comment on other things.

00:20:40.020 He never gets into flame wars or Twitter feuds.

00:20:42.540 He just doesn't.

00:20:44.460 But this cop, Dan McClain, is trying to paint him as an organizer as opposed to what he is, a reporter covering the news.

00:20:51.000 And then the next sentence is just as gross.

00:20:55.400 Menzies has attended and reported on protests across Ontario and Montreal.

00:20:59.640 Okay, why is that relevant?

00:21:01.360 Other than what they're clearly trying to do, what clearly motivates him here, this is a political charge, a political vendetta.

00:21:07.280 They want him punished not for any health violation or whatever, but because he doesn't cheer for government lockdowns.

00:21:14.380 Let me read some more.

00:21:16.480 Menzies has posted a video on Rebel News dated April 13th of being arrested by Montreal police.

00:21:22.240 In that video, Menzies was observed struggling with police during his arrest.

00:21:26.460 David didn't post that to Rebel News.

00:21:28.140 Our own team did.

00:21:29.200 Just stop with the little lies.

00:21:30.460 It was a false arrest.

00:21:32.080 We're actually, as you know, suing the Montreal police for that violence against us and other violence against our staff.

00:21:38.680 It just doesn't stop in Montreal.

00:21:40.500 But again, what's that got to do with David in Peterborough, Ontario, in April, other than trying to paint him as some sort of organizer?

00:21:48.760 That's a lie.

00:21:49.800 As a promoter of the event on social media?

00:21:52.020 That's a lie.

00:21:53.000 And violent?

00:21:53.980 That's a lie.

00:21:54.880 Then Staff Sergeant Dan McClain describes the protest on April 24th in Peterborough and says,

00:22:01.240 This attracted participants from outside Peterborough, which included the defendant David Menzies.

00:22:06.160 But why are you lying again, David McClain?

00:22:10.480 Excuse me, Dan McClain.

00:22:12.780 David Menzies was no more a participant in that protest than the police were.

00:22:16.860 They were both there in reaction to the protest, to respond to the protest.

00:22:20.580 David was there to do a news report about it, like other reporters were.

00:22:24.180 And the cops were there to do whatever it is that they do these days.

00:22:27.520 Hey, dumb question.

00:22:29.260 If the case against David is so strong here, why is this story so fake and so full of BS?

00:22:36.060 Then here's the dramatic moment in the report.

00:22:38.760 At 1247 hours, Staff Sergeant McClain made note and observed Menzies approach and greet Mr.

00:22:44.280 Bernier by shaking Mr. Bernier's hand.

00:22:47.280 Well, off with his head.

00:22:48.720 I mean, why even have a trial?

00:22:50.260 Straight to Guantanamo Bay.

00:22:51.860 The two stood next to each other and engaged in the conversation.

00:22:56.460 Neither person was wearing a mask or maintaining the required two-meter physical distancing.

00:23:01.040 After a short conversation, Menzies could be seen interviewing Mr. Bernier on the grass just off the stage area.

00:23:06.940 Yeah, that's called journalism.

00:23:08.700 Ask a guy for an interview and then interview him.

00:23:11.820 That's what we do.

00:23:12.900 And only a total nut would do that with a mask on. 0.97

00:23:16.960 Not even the CBC does that with a mask on.

00:23:20.540 And then this.

00:23:22.180 On one occasion, shortly after 1330 hours, while Mr. Hillier was speaking, Staff Sergeant McClain could hear a large portion of the crowd yelling,

00:23:28.860 shame, shame, shame.

00:23:30.400 Get out, get out. 0.99

00:23:31.320 And officers who had just issued Maxime Bernier a ticket.

00:23:34.860 Okay, thanks, Staff Sergeant McClain.

00:23:36.960 I know that hurt your feelings and all.

00:23:38.740 But what does that have to do with David Menzies?

00:23:41.240 He wasn't part of the chanting.

00:23:44.080 This is now, what, the fourth little gem that's just been added to this report that's got nothing to do with David Menzies,

00:23:49.740 but is absolutely designed to make it look like Menzies is an organizer, is a troublemaker, is violent, is jeering cops, whatever.

00:23:57.440 None of that is true.

00:23:58.360 That's called a goddamn lie.

00:24:01.240 What stands out is it's all political.

00:24:03.640 They know they have to do more than just say David Menzies interviewed Randy Hillier or Maxime Bernier.

00:24:09.680 So they're juicing it up a bit.

00:24:11.320 Canada's worst cop.

00:24:13.500 But I think this is why Menzies was charged.

00:24:15.500 He embarrassed the chief of police there, never embarrassed the chief of police.

00:24:21.640 Staff Sergeant McClain moved over to this location and stood beside Chief Gilbert,

00:24:26.080 who was involved in a conversation with one of the speakers, MPP Randy Hillier.

00:24:29.380 Staff Sergeant McClain observed Menzies in this scrum, shoulder to shoulder with other participants. 0.63

00:24:34.700 Menzies could be seen on video shoving his handheld mic in the face of Police Constable McGill.

00:24:41.700 Menzies was attempting to obtain some sort of statement from Constable McGill

00:24:44.700 after issuing Mr. Bernier a ticket.

00:24:47.680 Police Constable McGill did not respond back to Menzies' repeated requests.

00:24:52.000 Got it? Don't embarrass the chief.

00:24:53.760 Don't embarrass cops.

00:24:55.320 Or they'll get you.

00:24:57.640 It goes on and on like this, but then it just gets absurd.

00:25:02.820 They were taking photos and videos of David in action.

00:25:06.400 And not only was he shaking hands, which the cops say is illegal,

00:25:09.660 but they caught him laughing.

00:25:12.480 One photo shows Menzies and Mr. Hillier standing next to each other.

00:25:17.760 Both are laughing.

00:25:21.440 While Mr. Hillier has his left hand on Menzies' right shoulder.

00:25:24.620 Illegal handshaking leads to illegal laughing,

00:25:28.640 and that can lead to illegal hand on shoulder. 0.99

00:25:32.040 Seriously, look at these notes from Staff Sergeant McClain's police notebook.

00:25:36.740 Observe Mr. Bernier shake hands with male reporter from Rebel News,

00:25:41.020 and then a detailed description of what David was wearing.

00:25:45.520 So, two days after the big event,

00:25:47.820 Staff Sergeant Dan McClain sat down in his office

00:25:50.120 and started snooping through YouTube videos.

00:25:53.160 There were 600 people there, so who were they going to charge?

00:25:57.320 Well, here's what he says he was doing.

00:25:59.340 Going through video from protests,

00:26:02.400 attempting to identify organizers and persons who were aggressive.

00:26:08.140 But hang on, that's not our David Menzies.

00:26:10.040 He was neither an organizer, nor was he aggressive,

00:26:12.380 other than asking questions and just getting no answers.

00:26:16.080 But look at this.

00:26:17.320 I formed grounds on all the individuals

00:26:20.100 that they breached Section 10-1, Reopening Ontario Act,

00:26:23.040 by not wearing masks and not maintaining physical distance.

00:26:26.560 But no one there did.

00:26:28.180 Not a single person.

00:26:29.360 600 people were there.

00:26:30.740 No one distanced.

00:26:31.620 No one wore masks.

00:26:32.440 So why did they choose charges against David Menzies?

00:26:36.240 No other media wore masks, too, that I can see.

00:26:39.820 I looked through a lot of videotape.

00:26:41.560 I just couldn't see any.

00:26:42.940 So why did police charge just David Menzies but no other media?

00:26:49.200 Here's David Menzies reaching over a provincial elected legislator,

00:26:53.060 Randy Hillier, to capture him talking to the chief of police.

00:26:57.280 I think that's what bugged the cops.

00:26:59.100 This is literally the entire page 16 in their disclosure package.

00:27:02.680 This is what filled the police with rage.

00:27:04.400 Here's the next page, page 17.

00:27:06.380 Here's the dreaded shoulder-touch evidence.

00:27:08.800 Wow, straight to jail.

00:27:10.080 Here's page 21.

00:27:10.940 Here's their photographic proof that David shook a nice lady's hand.

00:27:14.600 You know, they're almost six feet apart there.

00:27:16.860 It looks like it was only for a moment.

00:27:18.800 But remember, I'm reading to you from the police disclosure document.

00:27:22.920 This is what they're giving to the prosecutors to prosecute David over.

00:27:26.460 This is their evidence.

00:27:27.680 I'm not even kidding.

00:27:29.820 But this is what they hate more than anything else.

00:27:31.640 This is page 15 in the disclosure.

00:27:33.120 Here it is.

00:27:33.780 David Menzies and Randy Hillier were having a laugh together.

00:27:37.220 That is in their book of evidence that is so infuriating to them that Staff Sergeant Dan McLean

00:27:43.520 actually put it in his written report.

00:27:46.420 We've seen people arrested for shaking hands before, but now we've seen them being arrested

00:27:50.900 or at least being charged, rather, for laughing.

00:27:55.460 Staff Sergeant Dan McLean is Canada's worst cop.

00:27:58.200 I'm sorry.

00:27:58.460 And, you know, I called him up.

00:28:01.180 I saw his phone number in this disclosure, and I just called him up.

00:28:04.880 I told him I thought he was Canada's worst cop, and I wanted to hear his side of things.

00:28:10.040 And he talked to me.

00:28:12.140 And here's how some of that went.

00:28:13.860 I am calling you Canada's worst cop, which is pretty stinging.

00:28:17.240 And I thought I'd check and see if you had anything to say.

00:28:19.460 As far as doing my job as a police officer?

00:28:28.440 Yeah, I think you're doing it in the worst possible way.

00:28:33.440 Giving people tickets for laughing, for handshaking.

00:28:37.420 I think you're really abusing the law for political reasons.

00:28:40.260 During a pandemic and following the legislation, according to the law and what it states under

00:28:48.680 the Reopening Ontario Act, as far as the law and what the law states regarding maintaining

00:28:54.640 two-meter physical distancing, and if you can't do that, then you have to wear a mask?

00:29:03.340 Yeah.

00:29:03.840 Is that what you're referring to, sir?

00:29:06.740 That is.

00:29:07.440 That is exactly what I'm referring to.

00:29:08.820 So, are you aware of what the law, the Reopening Ontario Act states with respect to physical

00:29:15.000 and social distancing?

00:29:16.860 I've read the law.

00:29:18.020 I've read the law.

00:29:18.700 Can you explain to me what the law states with respect to social distancing and physical

00:29:25.680 distancing?

00:29:26.440 Now, that's a weird question to ask me.

00:29:28.040 He's the cop.

00:29:29.560 I'm asking him about the enforcement law.

00:29:31.520 He's asking me what the law says.

00:29:33.240 Now, it's clear, right, that he was asking me ironically, sarcastically, as in he's testing

00:29:38.140 my knowledge to show that he's smarter than me, right?

00:29:40.940 Except that the Reopening Act, Ontario Reopening Act, doesn't actually say anything about social

00:29:46.980 distancing or masks.

00:29:48.060 The words just do not exist in the law.

00:29:50.000 Look for yourself.

00:29:50.660 Now, the word mask does appear in the regulations to that law and health orders that are updated

00:29:57.260 all the time.

00:29:57.880 That is true.

00:29:58.840 Here's the orders that were in effect the day of the protest David Menzies was covering.

00:30:03.280 You can see the word mask appears 43 times in the rags, but masks are specifically exempted

00:30:11.460 for TV journalists doing interviews.

00:30:14.620 Section F, performing or rehearsing a film or television production.

00:30:19.000 When Canada's worst cop asked me if I knew the law, I don't think he was trying to rub it

00:30:25.880 in that he knew more than me.

00:30:27.640 I think he was actually asking me, maybe I could help him understand what the law was

00:30:31.320 because TV production is exempt from masks.

00:30:34.240 So I asked Staff Sergeant Dan McLean why he only targeted David.

00:30:38.880 600 people there.

00:30:40.300 Why are you targeting just him?

00:30:41.800 And I want to know if you've charged any other reporter in the country or just David Menzies.

00:30:49.480 Sir, I've asked you a question.

00:30:51.680 You've asked me one in response, but you still haven't answered my question.

00:30:56.580 Okay.

00:30:56.720 I'm calling you because I want to...

00:30:58.960 I think it's pretty integral to you and reporting it fairly and objectively.

00:31:08.000 Okay, so you're saying he broke the law.

00:31:09.720 You're trying to say he broke the law.

00:31:11.240 Is that what you're saying?

00:31:13.320 It's the law states under the Reopening Ontario Act and...

00:31:18.280 Do journalists have to wear masks outside when they're reporting?

00:31:22.980 Does any journalist in the country have to wear a mask when they're reporting or just David Menzies?

00:31:28.020 Sir, I am a public official.

00:31:30.380 And when I am conducting my work, when I'm outside in public, I'm not exempt from not wearing a mask while I'm performing my duties.

00:31:43.060 Actually, he is.

00:31:43.700 The latest version of the lockdown in Ontario simply doesn't have anything about outdoor masks.

00:31:48.480 Nothing.

00:31:48.820 You can look it up.

00:31:50.640 Here's some more.

00:31:51.120 Okay.

00:31:51.680 Now, have you charged any other reporters ever?

00:31:56.040 I mean, there were a bunch of reporters at that event.

00:31:58.340 Did you charge anyone else or just David?

00:32:00.620 So some of the other reporters were wearing masks, sir.

00:32:05.180 Yeah, not that I saw, but that's his way of saying David Menzies was the only reporter charged.

00:32:11.980 Tell me one other who was.

00:32:13.220 Here's Mark.

00:32:13.580 Now, I see that you have a picture of David shaking hands with a lady.

00:32:18.480 They're actually fairly far apart.

00:32:20.260 Is that an offense in your mind, shaking hands with someone on the street?

00:32:24.800 If you're not maintaining the physical distancing and not wearing a mask, then at that time, that is an offense under the Reopening Ontario Act.

00:32:34.900 Do you understand that?

00:32:36.120 Do you think that's the law?

00:32:38.000 That it's illegal to shake hands on the street?

00:32:40.780 You really think so?

00:32:42.020 You think so, eh?

00:32:43.460 We've got to have to build some more courthouses if that's the case. 1.00

00:32:46.320 Here's some more.

00:32:47.180 Before we go on to the next question, how can you argue the fact that he's not committing an offense when he's in a crowd?

00:32:56.160 He's not maintaining the two meters physical distance.

00:32:58.600 Because it's selective enforcement.

00:33:00.620 It's selective enforcement.

00:33:02.140 It's selective enforcement.

00:33:03.240 Okay, so it's not selective enforcement.

00:33:07.340 It is the facts of the law and understanding.

00:33:11.700 Why didn't you choose him?

00:33:12.700 Why did you choose him?

00:33:13.420 It's the facts of the law.

00:33:15.200 How many people did you give tickets to for this same offense?

00:33:18.960 Or is it just David or how many others?

00:33:20.840 No, no.

00:33:21.760 There was a number of individuals that had received...

00:33:24.520 600 people there.

00:33:25.480 How many got tickets?

00:33:26.420 600 people there.

00:33:27.320 How many got tickets?

00:33:28.020 As far as the total number of tickets?

00:33:31.580 I think we've released that.

00:33:32.800 And I think from the top of my head, I'm thinking 12 from the top of my head.

00:33:38.420 Selective enforcement.

00:33:39.440 12 out of 600 people charged.

00:33:41.900 You saw his reasoning.

00:33:43.500 It was in his report.

00:33:45.620 David was chatting with people.

00:33:46.780 He was laughing with people.

00:33:47.640 He was interviewing people.

00:33:48.360 And more than any of that, he was just plain old embarrassed to the police chief by asking questions.

00:33:54.500 That's why they targeted him.

00:33:55.560 Well, why are you pulling me over for speeding?

00:33:58.060 Look, there's 500 other people there for speeding.

00:34:01.440 We cannot pull everybody over for speeding.

00:34:04.700 It is impossible.

00:34:06.720 The same as 600 people at the rally.

00:34:11.480 It's physically impossible.

00:34:13.960 And then everybody says, well, why me?

00:34:15.660 Well, why?

00:34:16.500 And every person that gets a ticket says the same thing.

00:34:19.700 Why me?

00:34:20.820 Everyone says that?

00:34:21.820 I'm not sure if everyone says that when they're pulled over for a traffic ticket.

00:34:24.960 I think people know why they were pulled over.

00:34:26.620 Because they were speeding.

00:34:27.440 But when you literally have a gathering of 600 people, and then you meticulously spend 10 days choosing and selecting,

00:34:36.140 it actually becomes a real question.

00:34:37.540 Why him and not her?

00:34:38.840 It's not just who you happen to pull over at any moment on a highway.

00:34:42.520 This was planned in advance.

00:34:44.440 Let me refer to Staff Sergeant McLean's handwritten notes.

00:34:47.760 This was targeting organizers.

00:34:49.820 People they said were aggressive.

00:34:51.360 David was not an organizer.

00:34:53.340 David was not aggressive.

00:34:54.700 He was not an organizer or a participant.

00:34:56.980 They lied because they want to get him for political reasons.

00:35:00.400 The facts and issue are not favorable for Mr. Menzies.

00:35:07.560 So that's the issue.

00:35:09.040 The facts and issue as far as you will report, oh, police charge Mr. Menzies for laughing.

00:35:16.560 Well, that's not accurate.

00:35:19.540 And it's misleading.

00:35:20.580 No, I'm sorry.

00:35:22.140 That's not good enough.

00:35:23.080 The fact that David was laughing was specifically mentioned in his written report.

00:35:29.620 It was important enough that it was photographed and included when only a handful of photos.

00:35:34.920 It was clearly something that bothered the police.

00:35:37.500 They wanted to wipe that smile off his face.

00:35:40.800 They were outraged with him.

00:35:42.420 If laughing was irrelevant, why was it mentioned specifically?

00:35:47.300 Why was there a photo of the laughing?

00:35:50.420 Anything else you want to tell me?

00:35:51.540 Just that I would like you to report it in a fair, factual manner and that emphasis on the facts and issue.

00:36:09.000 I don't have anything personal against Rebel News, Mr. Menzies or you, sir.

00:36:19.780 We are fair.

00:36:22.340 Try to be as fair and impartial.

00:36:26.120 Maybe you can write this down, that we try to be as fair and impartial as we possibly can,

00:36:32.480 but knowing that we cannot please everyone and that there will be people that are going to be upset.

00:36:44.020 You know, it was a frustrating 15 minutes with that cop.

00:36:52.660 I was actually surprised that he would talk to me at all about a case that hasn't been in court yet.

00:36:57.460 I think it's a bit weird for a cop to speak at length about a case before he has to appear as a witness in that case.

00:37:05.520 I agree with some of the things that he said, I've got to tell you.

00:37:08.720 In fact, I think he softened me a little bit.

00:37:10.300 These laws are ridiculous.

00:37:11.520 They are not evenly enforced and his job is to enforce them.

00:37:15.940 Why get mad at a law enforcement officer for enforcing laws he didn't write?

00:37:20.460 Why not get mad at the fools writing those laws? 0.98

00:37:23.360 And by the way, those aren't even elected officials.

00:37:25.940 You think MPPs vote on these laws?

00:37:28.460 These are regulations passed by unknown, unnamed, unaccountable public health bureaucrats.

00:37:33.320 Now that does cut some ice with me.

00:37:34.880 I'll tell you, he changed my mind a couple of degrees, but not a lot.

00:37:38.500 Because out of 600 people who attended that day, 588 went home without a ticket.

00:37:43.560 Only 12 were targeted.

00:37:45.160 And unlike Staff Sergeant McClain's analogy to random speeding tickets, this was anything but random.

00:37:51.400 They pored over pictures and videos for days.

00:37:54.440 They made lists.

00:37:55.340 They scoured Facebook posts.

00:37:57.600 They creeped individuals out there.

00:38:00.080 They labeled people as political troublemakers.

00:38:02.500 That's why they chose David Menzies as the only reporter to charge.

00:38:09.280 I asked this cop five times why he chose David Menzies and he wouldn't answer any time.

00:38:14.520 Well, that's an answer in itself, isn't it?

00:38:16.860 So there you have it.

00:38:17.960 Is he Canada's most violent cop?

00:38:19.740 No.

00:38:20.240 That's probably someone in Toronto.

00:38:21.840 Is he the most corrupt cop?

00:38:23.240 No.

00:38:23.400 Well, obviously that dishonor goes to Montreal.

00:38:25.800 The stupidest cops are to be found in Aylmer.

00:38:28.380 But for singling out our rebel news reporter who has a TV mask exemption, who is outdoors,

00:38:36.160 singling him out for the offense of shaking hands with a lovely old lady,

00:38:41.820 and then singling him out for the offense of laughing and taking surveillance photos

00:38:46.820 of the handshaking and the laughing and then defending that as normal policing,

00:38:52.780 I hereby nominate Staff Sergeant Dan McClain of Peterborough as Canada's worst cop.

00:39:01.080 What do you think?

00:39:02.980 Let me know.

00:39:03.800 And if you want to help David Menzies and stand with him, well, then go to standwithmenzies.com

00:39:11.560 because we are going to fight this all the way, and we've got a few more questions for

00:39:18.520 Staff Sergeant McClain, except for this time he'll be under oath when he answers them.

00:39:24.920 Go to standwithmenzies.com if you're with me.

00:39:28.220 Stay with us for more.

00:39:41.560 Afternoon, sir.

00:39:44.680 Yes, yes.

00:39:45.260 I'm with the RCMP.

00:39:46.380 Yeah.

00:39:46.580 I can get you to step out of the vehicle.

00:39:47.640 I'm going to place you under arrest right now.

00:39:48.880 Yeah.

00:39:55.120 Right now, you're under arrest under the provincial health orders.

00:39:58.320 Okay, so if you can just put your hands behind your back, face towards the vehicle.

00:40:02.520 Okay, give me one hand here.

00:40:04.280 I'll just use the same as you, okay?

00:40:05.780 Yep.

00:40:07.600 The other hand.

00:40:09.300 Do you have any weapons or anything on you, sir?

00:40:11.380 Weapon?

00:40:11.920 No, no weapon.

00:40:12.780 Anything on you that's going to hurt me or anything like that?

00:40:15.260 Sorry?

00:40:15.800 Anything on you that's going to hurt me or anything like that?

00:40:17.540 No, no, anything will hurt you.

00:40:19.040 Only my words.

00:40:19.880 Only my philosophy.

00:40:21.020 Only what I believe in.

00:40:22.100 Okay.

00:40:22.780 All right, come on over this way.

00:40:24.380 I'll explain a few things that you hear right away.

00:40:29.880 That's the footage of People's Party leader, Maxime Bernier, being arrested, handcuffed,

00:40:36.520 put in the back of a police vehicle, and later taken to jail, all for the non-crime of attending

00:40:44.480 a political gathering.

00:40:45.600 I emphasize the non-crime because it was no one less than Justin Trudeau's RCMP who did

00:40:51.460 the arresting, although you'll notice the police officer was wearing a Under Armour ball cap.

00:40:58.680 It was just some other brand.

00:41:00.300 He wasn't wearing his uniform.

00:41:01.820 Just a little wrinkle of oddness there.

00:41:03.620 Well, joining us now to talk about this, now safely freed from jail and back in Quebec

00:41:08.600 is Maxime Bernier, who joins us now.

00:41:11.820 Maxime Bernier, welcome back to Quebec.

00:41:14.060 Tell us what happened after you were put into the back of the police vehicle.

00:41:19.380 How long were you in the back of the vehicle?

00:41:21.340 Where did they take you from then?

00:41:22.800 And what did they say?

00:41:25.320 First of all, Ezra, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak to Canadians

00:41:30.680 about that.

00:41:31.400 You know, you're right saying since the beginning that it was not about COVID.

00:41:37.360 It was not about respecting regulations.

00:41:42.060 It was about political repression.

00:41:44.200 Actually, the premier of Manitoba, Mr. Pallister said before, Thursday before, that if I'm going

00:41:52.580 to Manitoba, my wallet will have to be open and it's at my own risk.

00:42:00.580 And that was, he doesn't want to have any Canadians, politicians speak against these

00:42:07.020 reckoning lockdowns.

00:42:08.200 So, yes, when I was in the car, first of all, I was very surprised to be arrested.

00:42:13.580 My lawyer told me that, you know, there's a risk that you'll be arrested, that will be

00:42:17.960 arrested.

00:42:18.320 And I was arrested, actually, after the second get-together that I did.

00:42:23.980 And the rule over there, their unconstitutional rule over there is if you are more than five

00:42:31.700 person outside in a park, it's illegal.

00:42:35.420 So at the first meeting with my people, my part is in a little village.

00:42:40.460 We were out there in a public park.

00:42:42.460 We were about 15.

00:42:43.480 And they gave me the first ticket.

00:42:45.720 And after that, they said to me, you know, if you're doing another event out there with

00:42:50.060 more than five people, you have a risk to be arrested.

00:42:52.860 So I spoke with my lawyers and they told me that you have a strong case.

00:42:56.980 That's your constitutional rights.

00:42:58.260 You can do it.

00:42:59.300 That's a big risk.

00:43:00.460 But it would be your decision.

00:43:01.680 And I decided to do the second event in St. Pierre, Jolie, near Winnipeg, about an hour

00:43:09.360 south of Winnipeg, a little town over there.

00:43:13.220 And we were only eight persons with myself.

00:43:16.400 And I was the only one who had the tickets.

00:43:18.700 I was the only one who was handcuffed.

00:43:22.040 And that was really political.

00:43:25.240 And when I was in the car, policemen told me that, you know, we're going to go to the

00:43:30.820 station, the police station in that same village.

00:43:34.260 I was there for eight hours.

00:43:36.900 Usually, they let you do some phone calls.

00:43:40.060 But they were very strict.

00:43:41.640 And they said to me, you have the right to do two phone calls to your lawyer.

00:43:46.920 And that's it.

00:43:48.000 So I called my lawyers two times.

00:43:49.900 And after that, I asked if I can call my wife.

00:43:52.120 They said no.

00:43:53.320 I was in the jail alone with no bed and nothing for eight hours.

00:43:59.820 But the Crown wanted me to be able to live and to be free again on certain conditions.

00:44:10.660 And the condition was against my own freedom, my own charters, my own right to speak, my freedom

00:44:18.520 of speech, because they were asking the judge to be sure that I won't be able to communicate

00:44:24.080 on social media, to do any rallies and things like that.

00:44:28.000 A lot of conditions.

00:44:29.520 And I was pleased with the judge.

00:44:31.220 The judge said, OK, the only condition would be for Bernier to pay a thousand bucks to be

00:44:36.020 sure that he will be back in court July the 27th.

00:44:39.680 And that was, and the other condition was to respect the law, like every Canadian must respect

00:44:46.620 the law.

00:44:46.960 So I said yes to that.

00:44:49.300 And the police asked me after, I think I was free at around 11 o'clock p.m. that day.

00:44:56.380 I was in jail at around 2 o'clock p.m.

00:44:58.880 So about eight, nine hours.

00:45:01.200 And the police were very strict with me.

00:45:03.560 And they said, you must leave the province early tomorrow morning.

00:45:07.020 And they followed us when I was driving to my hotel to be sure that I'm going to my hotel.

00:45:14.100 I was feeling like being in a communist country.

00:45:17.520 And the day after, I took the first ride to Montreal.

00:45:20.920 And I will be back.

00:45:22.460 I will fight that.

00:45:23.600 But Ezra, I had a decision to take at that time because we had a rally planned.

00:45:28.160 Actually, that's Friday night that has been canceled.

00:45:30.760 But we had a rally, a real rally, open to public in Winnipeg at 2 o'clock p.m. the Saturday.

00:45:38.620 So I took the decision to leave the province and not go into that rally.

00:45:44.560 Because for me, I had another, maybe I'll be in jail, but because doing that rally and

00:45:53.000 I said, you know, I cannot be in jail until the 27th of July, because the 27th of July

00:45:59.500 was the date and is the date for me to be back in court.

00:46:03.440 So the risk was too huge for me to stay a couple of weeks in jail.

00:46:08.360 I'm a politician.

00:46:09.360 I'm campaigning.

00:46:10.760 And we, as you know, we will have an electoral campaign this fall.

00:46:16.860 So our party must be ready.

00:46:18.740 And I wasn't able to take that chance.

00:46:21.560 So that's why I left the province.

00:46:25.040 But I'll be back.

00:46:26.020 I'll be back to campaign there as soon as I will be able to do it.

00:46:29.720 Well, there's so many things you said there.

00:46:31.200 And by the way, I think you're right.

00:46:32.960 We've seen a Christian pastor in Edmonton spend 35 days in a maximum security jail.

00:46:39.800 So the threat of you being in prison for a month is not as far-fetched as it would sound.

00:46:46.460 I want to ask you about two things you mentioned.

00:46:48.700 Did you say that the Crown Prosecutor wanted to ban you from using social media?

00:46:56.340 Absolutely.

00:46:57.220 Absolutely.

00:46:58.100 And after that, in the press release, they denied that.

00:47:01.800 But they did it.

00:47:02.860 And my lawyer argued, and they didn't want me to use social media, to use social media for, or do some rallies, and using social media to organize rallies, to speak against lockdowns.

00:47:21.760 So a lot of details, conditions like that, that we say no to that.

00:47:26.920 And I was pleased with the judge and say, no, no, a thousand bucks is okay.

00:47:31.700 And Bernie would be back and we'll have a discussion in court in July, at the end of July.

00:47:37.640 Well, that's so outrageous that they would try and censor you on Twitter or elsewhere.

00:47:42.640 That just shows how political it is.

00:47:44.540 Now, you mentioned that you promised to obey the law and you would come back in July for court.

00:47:52.160 And that sounds appropriate.

00:47:53.540 But then you said the police wanted you out of the province, really, on the next flight.

00:47:59.100 Was that part of the judge's order or was that the police rushing you out of town?

00:48:04.360 Did the judge say you have to get out on the next flight or was that the cops?

00:48:08.680 Yeah, that was of the judge.

00:48:11.020 That was the cop.

00:48:12.060 After my release, they were asking me, where are you going?

00:48:14.900 I said, I'm going to my hotel.

00:48:16.760 And they were saying, okay.

00:48:18.680 And we suggest to you that you must leave as soon as possible this province.

00:48:26.380 We will follow you everywhere in this province.

00:48:29.640 And you may be back in jail, depending on what you're doing.

00:48:33.620 So that was a strong, strong advice for me to leave as soon as possible the province.

00:48:40.380 But that came from the cops, not from the judge, just to be crystal clear.

00:48:44.540 Yeah, not from the judge, from the cop.

00:48:46.560 That's unbelievable.

00:48:48.200 You know, I have to tell you, I follow politics in other countries sometimes, like in Russia and Venezuela and places like that that are not free.

00:48:57.660 And the harassment of political opposition, false arrests, trumped up charges, police being used as political enforcers.

00:49:07.400 That's something that when it happens in Russia or Venezuela, we speak out about it.

00:49:12.380 That feels like what happens in Manitoba.

00:49:15.220 You had the premier and you had a mayor threaten you with arrest.

00:49:20.440 It happened.

00:49:21.660 And the police basically admitted they were there to enforce Brian Pallister's will.

00:49:26.560 I find that deeply troubling.

00:49:29.020 Absolutely.

00:49:30.400 You know, and also, like you said in the beginning, I was surprised that the RCMP didn't have all their uniform.

00:49:38.140 And somebody told me, because it may be cops coming from Winnipeg and not cops working in that little town over there.

00:49:47.580 And so it was a little bit bizarre that they didn't have their jeans and not their straight uniform, as you know.

00:49:54.840 That's unusual.

00:49:57.920 I'm putting aside the hat thing.

00:49:59.400 I just thought it stood out.

00:50:00.540 I mean, normally you don't see a sponsored brand like Nike or Under Arm on police.

00:50:05.920 At least I'm not familiar with that.

00:50:08.180 Why did they handcuff you?

00:50:09.840 I've never, you know, the idea that, I mean, you're a senior politician.

00:50:14.080 You've been a cabinet minister.

00:50:15.580 You know, as far as I've known, you've never in your entire life had a history of crime or violence.

00:50:24.580 Why did they handcuff you?

00:50:27.120 Why did they take you to jail?

00:50:29.020 This isn't even a, you weren't charged with any crime, let alone a violent crime.

00:50:33.220 Why the handcuffs?

00:50:34.400 And how long were the handcuffs on you?

00:50:37.540 You know, when I was in the car, when I was at the police station, I still had them.

00:50:42.860 And I think I had for one hour or something like that.

00:50:46.500 And after that, they put me in jail.

00:50:48.420 But usually, things like that, it will take two or three hours, and you'll have a discussion with a judge, and you'll be out on certain conditions.

00:50:56.980 But for me, it took eight hours.

00:50:58.720 I think they wanted to intimidate me.

00:51:00.760 They wanted to be sure that I understand that I'm not welcome.

00:51:04.920 That was part of the intimidation game, I believe.

00:51:09.160 I have one last question for you.

00:51:10.800 We were interested.

00:51:11.700 Now, it happened sort of at the close of the day, so some folks might have been heading home.

00:51:16.460 But, you know, it was such a dramatic thing to arrest a political party leader.

00:51:20.400 I tried to imagine what would happen if Stephen Harper were the prime minister, and the RCMP under him would have arrested and jailed Elizabeth May.

00:51:29.160 I think it would have been the top story on the newscast at night.

00:51:32.920 And I think it would have been the front page of the newspapers the next day.

00:51:36.480 And I think there would have been calls for investigations of police overreach.

00:51:42.140 I don't read all the mainstream media, so perhaps I missed something.

00:51:46.460 But was there an outcry from civil liberties groups or from the media about this?

00:51:53.180 I didn't see it.

00:51:54.480 Maybe I just missed it.

00:51:56.460 No, absolutely not.

00:51:57.680 Not in English, not in French.

00:52:00.180 You know, for them, it's like business as usual, and they don't like what I'm saying.

00:52:06.140 That's why it was political, political repression.

00:52:11.480 And I'm very—I don't trust any more mainstream media like you, Ezra.

00:52:17.040 It's a political party.

00:52:19.240 And they didn't give me—that's the first interview I'm doing, actually, Ezra.

00:52:24.100 And I didn't have any call for a radio station interview, mainstream radio station or mainstream newspaper or mainstream TV.

00:52:33.760 No.

00:52:35.020 They put something out there that I was in jail.

00:52:39.020 That's it.

00:52:39.740 And next news.

00:52:41.580 That's incredible.

00:52:42.620 And I'm worried that they're trying to cancel you, to de-platform you, and I'm worried that they actually would like you to be a political prisoner.

00:52:53.160 And whether or not people agree with you or disagree with you, we should all be terrified that a political leader could be jailed in so clearly a politicized police mission.

00:53:02.920 I'm very disturbed by this.

00:53:04.360 I appreciate you making time for us, and please also make time for our new Quebec-based reporter, Alexandre Lavoie, who reports in both French and English.

00:53:14.240 I know she'll be very interested in telling your story to our viewers in Quebec as well.

00:53:19.940 Thank you.

00:53:20.360 I'll do that, Ezra.

00:53:21.260 Thank you very much.

00:53:22.360 Have a nice day.

00:53:23.080 Thank you, you too.

00:53:23.980 There you have it.

00:53:24.560 Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party, joining us via Skype.

00:53:28.200 Stay with us.

00:53:28.980 More ahead.

00:53:34.360 Thanks very much for watching.

00:53:42.580 Today's show is a very long monologue.

00:53:44.780 What do you think?

00:53:45.360 Was I unfair to Staff Sergeant Dan McClain?

00:53:49.200 Am I overdoing it by saying he's the worst?

00:53:51.560 I'm saying he's not the most violent or something like that.

00:53:53.600 But you're literally charging a man for laughing and handshaking.

00:53:59.420 I think you've got to own it.

00:54:01.380 All right, that's our show for today.

00:54:02.560 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - June 15, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ I Found Canada's Worst Cop (He's Awful!)

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