Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ I never thought it could happen： Tommy Robinson touches down in Canada

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Interesting show for you, if I may say so myself.

00:00:03.760 Interesting because of what just happened. Tommy Robinson, our friend and former employee and

00:00:09.040 current activist and journalist, has arrived in Canada. I didn't think it would be possible.

00:00:15.100 And we're putting on a tour with him. You'll get all the details and more in today's show.

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00:00:57.580 Tonight, I never thought it could happen. Tommy Robinson is in Canada and he's going on a

00:01:02.980 speaking tour with Rebel News. It's June 18th and this is the...

00:01:06.580 You have your freedom!

00:01:09.700 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:12.760 I didn't think he could travel here. I don't know what restrictions are on him,

00:01:25.920 but I know he's had a lot of challenges with court cases before. But yesterday,

00:01:30.700 Tommy Robinson arrived in Canada. Here's a video he filmed with our reporter, Alexa Lavoie,

00:01:36.880 who was there to greet him when he landed at Montreal's International Airport.

00:01:42.760 I'm in Canada, yeah, where I didn't think I'd get into Canada. And I got in, I haven't even booked

00:01:50.260 a hotel. I'm sorting out now. And I'm here and I want to see as many of you as possible. So I'm

00:01:55.600 here with Rebel Media and I'm going to be in Calgary June 24th, Edmonton June 25th, Toronto June 30th.

00:02:03.180 I'm looking forward to it. Do you know what? It might be the only time I'm ever allowed into Canada,

00:02:07.160 yeah? So let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. And it's at Tommy Thor,

00:02:12.400 TommyTor.ca. You can go on there, find out all the details, get your tickets. I want to see as

00:02:18.020 many of you as possible. Let's go.

00:02:20.120 Well, I think that's great. And he's here for a couple of weeks. He's here because he has some

00:02:25.660 scheduled podcast interviews to do. I'll let him announce those on his own timing. But he's got

00:02:32.200 some time and he has teamed up with us. It's no surprise. We used to be the company he worked with.

00:02:38.800 We're going to put on some speaking events across Canada, Calgary, then Edmonton, then Toronto. And I

00:02:46.920 suppose there's a chance we could add a few more, but hopefully those locations are close enough to

00:02:52.660 you that if you want to come, you can make it. To find out the details, including the exact dates

00:02:58.500 and locations and prices, go to TommyTor.ca. I'm excited about this, but I also realize

00:03:09.340 that many Rebel News viewers who have joined us in the last few years, especially since the pandemic,

00:03:15.620 may not know who Tommy Robinson is. He was a pretty big part of our show in 2018, 19, and even 2020.

00:03:24.500 He actually worked for Rebel News. His story is interesting, but it's also hard to know the truth

00:03:31.440 about Tommy Robinson. Who is he? I first tried to answer that question 10 years ago when I was at

00:03:39.000 the Sun News Network. And if you Google him, and if you see what the search engines put as the first

00:03:46.340 responses, if you read his Wikipedia page, you will be terrified of him. And in fact, I was.

00:03:52.700 For example, I'm Jewish. I don't want to hang out with someone who hates Jews, who's anti-Semitic.

00:03:58.380 I don't want to hang out with someone who hates other races either, by the way.

00:04:02.740 And there's this wall of anti-Tommy propaganda out there that's very difficult to get through.

00:04:09.520 I remember about 10 years ago when I first convinced him to come on for an interview at Sun News,

00:04:15.560 the very first question I asked him, and I suppose it sounded sort of stupid or sort of rude,

00:04:20.660 but I felt I just had to ask him, are you racist? And he didn't take it personally. He knew I was

00:04:26.920 asking because I wanted to know the truth, because I had finally had him instead of just what the

00:04:31.840 propaganda said. And he told me no. He was just contrary to the establishment on a number of

00:04:37.860 things. And actually, one of his most worrying things to him was the Islamification of public life, 1.00

00:04:45.980 not Muslims. In fact, it's always interesting to me how many friends Tommy has who are Muslim 1.00

00:04:52.020 or who are minorities of any sort. The first time I ever met him, he was with his best friend from

00:04:58.200 childhood who is black. His two buddies that he first bought a car with are Muslim.

00:05:05.560 Here's Tommy at a Sikh event. I think this was in Manchester shortly after a terrorist attack there.

00:05:11.760 Tommy and the Sikhs are thick as thieves. Take a look at this. We're in Birmingham, where we've come 1.00

00:05:17.180 to this temple where they're having a little demonstration to get together to show that Sikhs

00:05:20.800 stand against what happened in Manchester. So many times the Sikh community are wrongly identified

00:05:25.480 as problematic by uneducated people. So across the country, Sikhs, I've spent the last six, seven

00:05:33.240 years forming relationships with Sikhs across the country, and we couldn't ask and no one could ask

00:05:37.820 for a better minority group, a more loyal, more patriotic, more hardworking group of people.

00:05:42.720 So the fact that after September 11th, Sikhs were killed, after the Lee Rigby killing, a Sikh 0.95

00:05:48.920 was murdered in a horrific attack in response to it. So by morons. So yeah, I think if I've

00:05:55.420 got any sort of platform, I want to show the great side of the Sikh community where they

00:05:59.840 stand on all of these issues. They've been fighting against Islamic extremism throughout their

00:06:03.320 whole history of their religion, of their community. I've read a couple of Tommy's books,

00:06:08.500 and one of them is very autobiographical, and it tells how he went from being a pretty regular guy

00:06:14.580 to activated politically. It was when British veterans were coming home from, I think it was

00:06:21.000 Afghanistan, and they were marching through his hometown of Luton, and you have returning soldiers.

00:06:27.520 I mean, what's the tradition? A ticker tape parade in New York? What would be the tradition in

00:06:32.300 the UK? I'm sure it would be something similar. But he was shocked at the abuse that was hurled at

00:06:37.540 these soldiers by certain Muslim extremists in his hometown. He was appalled. He couldn't believe it.

00:06:43.780 And he set up something called the English Defense League, or EDL. And at first, they were very shy

00:06:50.760 about this. They would hide their identities. But then he was very explicit about it. And he was also

00:06:56.420 explicit about what he was not. He was not a racist. He was against Nazis. In fact, he burned a swastika

00:07:03.700 to demonstrate that. But the EDL, or the English Defense League, had the problem that a lot of right

00:07:11.080 of center groups have, is entryists coming in either as bad faith agents provocateurs organized by a

00:07:18.480 government to discredit them, or actual entryists who want to take it over. And it was because of that

00:07:24.540 that Tommy shut down the EDL, because there were people, whether they were police informants or true

00:07:31.780 bad dudes, who were taking it into a racist direction. And he sort of had a second issue

00:07:40.060 that was related to the first. And it's something we've talked about on Rebel News before, and it's

00:07:44.820 shocking if you haven't heard of it. In the United Kingdom, they have a phenomenon, and it's a terrible

00:07:50.040 phrase, but I'm just going to say it, of rape gangs. They sometimes call them grooming gangs. 0.98

00:07:58.880 And, you know, we're used to the concept of a rape as something that happens in an opportunistic

00:08:04.500 moment, in a shocking manner. Someone's pulled into an alley, God forbid, and raped, and then the

00:08:11.040 marauder runs off. I think that's what a typical person in Canada, the United States would call a rape, 0.98

00:08:16.860 a one-time violent crime of opportunity, perhaps, or a stalker, perhaps. In the United Kingdom, it's not

00:08:23.800 that way. In the United Kingdom, there are these gangs, but they're not sort of street toughs. They

00:08:29.680 come across the opposite way. They trick and entrap young girls, as young as 11 in one case that I wrote

00:08:38.480 about. They would say to a young girl, would you like some candy? Would you like some cigarettes? Would you

00:08:43.680 like some alcohol? Have a sip? Okay, now that you had some alcohol, would you like a real boyfriend?

00:08:50.040 Some of these girls are very, very young. Would you like to ride in my car? I gave you some drugs. I gave 1.00

00:08:57.100 you some alcohol. Now send me a nude selfie. Okay, now I have the nude selfie. I'm going to blackmail

00:09:05.060 you. I'm going to show this to your mother and your father. I'm going to publish this online unless you

00:09:10.260 have sex with me, and repeatedly, and all of the other members in the grooming gang. So what they do

00:09:18.120 is they trick and entrap and bribe and extort young girls, not just to be raped once, but every night

00:09:26.900 for years. I know that sounds astonishing. One particular shocking instance of this was in the city

00:09:33.680 of Rotherham, about a quarter million people, and over the course of a number of years, 1,300, actually

00:09:42.260 I've seen reports of 1,400, 1,500, 1,300 young girls were raped, and not once, hundreds of times, and

00:09:52.500 obviously that showed up very quickly. Social services, hospitals, social workers, you know, it wasn't long

00:10:01.180 before police, politicians, the media all heard about it, but everyone was either in on it, or they

00:10:08.500 observed what Majid Nawaz, the Pakistani-born Muslim active Muslim progressive activist in the UK said

00:10:15.920 all the men who were in these rape gangs had something in common, or at least 80 percent of them

00:10:22.300 had something in common. They were Pakistani-born Muslim men. And the targets of their rapes were white 0.88

00:10:30.880 girls, often lower class. Here's Majid Nawaz saying what really the rest of us are too afraid to say.

00:10:37.880 For too long in this country, we, media, the establishment, society, the chattering classes, 1.00

00:10:45.760 the liberal elite, whatever term you want to use, have ignored the issue of grooming gangs, of young

00:10:52.360 vulnerable teenage girls who have been victimised, drugged, and raped, and abused. Whether it's the

00:10:59.380 Rotherham case, or all the other cases that were replicated across the country, it is both the

00:11:04.000 conclusion of the prosecutor in the Rotherham case, British-Pakistani Muslim Nazir Afzal, or indeed the

00:11:10.960 official inquiry into why it took so long for these young, vulnerable, underage girls to get justice,

00:11:17.380 both of those concluded that fears of racism prevented us from coming to the defence of vulnerable,

00:11:24.340 underage girls. Fears of racism meaning that the state was scared that it would be accused of being

00:11:31.900 racist if it rightly arrested and prosecuted British-Pakistani largely, British-Pakistani Muslim 0.79

00:11:38.920 men in their abuse of underage white teenage girls. And so from fear of appearing racist,

00:11:48.880 there was a silence across the country as multiple cases of grooming gangs emerged up and down the

00:11:57.400 country, as evidenced now due to multiple prosecutions, successful prosecutions, but sadly

00:12:04.060 and unfortunately too late. If we hadn't all been silent, if we had all addressed this issue head

00:12:10.720 on when it needed to be addressed, when it was time to address it, then the void would not have emerged

00:12:17.620 for the populist agitators to fill that gap and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing

00:12:25.280 what is a legitimate issue. They ended up hijacking what should have been the concern of every right-minded

00:12:32.040 citizen in this country. I just wish, I wish that those young girls had seen justice served for them

00:12:41.940 as fast as the judge served Tommy Robinson justice in this case, because in this case, it's very easy

00:12:48.940 for us to pick on the bogeyman. But actually, the truth is that our silence over decades in this country

00:12:55.200 is the real bogeyman. And that's the real thing we should despise, our own cowardice in the face of

00:13:00.660 grooming of young girls up and down this country, and our conspiracy of silence.

00:13:04.860 So Tommy Robinson, being a working-class lad from one of these northern towns, he saw this in his

00:13:11.420 own community. In fact, a member of his extended family was a victim, and he started speaking out

00:13:16.020 against these rape gangs, these grooming gangs, when everyone else was too terrified to talk about it.

00:13:21.320 By the way, the Rotherham case, there was finally a commission of inquiry, and if you read that

00:13:26.060 commission of inquiry, they say again and again, people knew this massacre of young women were

00:13:31.820 happening, but everyone was too afraid of being called racist, so they turned a blind eye. Well,

00:13:37.340 it wasn't just in Rotherham, it was all across the UK, and this became a focus of Tommy Robinson,

00:13:42.580 not just English pride and standing up for soldiers, but pushing back against these rape gangs.

00:13:49.300 I came to know him on these things, and I realized that he was drawing a distinction

00:13:52.840 between individual Muslims who were people, and should be treated with respect as any people would,

00:13:59.060 and the ideology of political Islam or Islamism. Anyhow, when Rebel News started, we hired Tommy

00:14:06.720 to be our UK reporter, and this is when we weren't really traveling a lot yet and didn't really know

00:14:11.980 what we were doing yet. And Tommy was over there, and he started getting these viral hits because he

00:14:18.380 was saying things that no one else in the UK would say. He happened to be on the scene, for example,

00:14:24.100 moments after an Islamic terrorist hurtled down Westminster Bridge mowing down people in his car.

00:14:31.520 Here's this astonishing clip by Tommy Robinson moments after that terrorist attack, and watch how the other

00:14:38.520 media react to him and his response to them. This video went super viral, about 20 million views in

00:14:45.220 various formats, and it really made Tommy as a journalist and commentator. Take a look.

00:14:51.480 As I said, as we're walking around here, we've gone past young people, young girls with blankets over

00:14:56.040 from the shock. This isn't a shock to me. I don't understand people who are surprised by this.

00:15:02.720 We've had 12 suspected terrorist attacks planned last year. If they would have been successful,

00:15:08.200 you'd have seen shopping centers, you'd have seen airplanes, you'd have seen nightclubs, you'd have seen

00:15:13.220 a war zone on our streets, similar to this, every single month. Then, and only then, might people 0.92

00:15:19.480 realize we are at war. We're in war already. We have over 3,000 Muslims who are monitored 24 hours a day, 1.00

00:15:25.040 seven days a week. Every week, it costs £9 billion a year. We're following and waiting for them to do

00:15:30.700 this. We have had 450 ISIS fighters been allowed to return to our country. They've gone and fought for

00:15:37.080 ISIS. They've been in training camps. They've been beheading people. They've been raping people,

00:15:41.380 and they're walking the streets of our capital city. They're living with us. Our government

00:15:45.720 have failed us. Don't come out and act all strong on this, Home Secretary, Theresa May,

00:15:50.520 because you haven't been strong. You've been weak. You've showed cowardice.

00:15:53.840 OK?

00:15:54.180 You're very quick to label this as a foreign terrorist attack.

00:15:56.540 Because my head is not up my arse.

00:15:58.820 My head is not up my arse. This is an Islamic jihad attack. The man that done this would have 0.99

00:16:03.840 either been radicalized in a prison, or he would have been radicalized on the streets of the UK

00:16:07.660 with full knowledge of our government and our security services. They will know who he is.

00:16:11.580 Do you have information that no one else seems to know?

00:16:13.320 Yeah, mate, I have information that shows there was four terrorist attacks last week in France.

00:16:17.520 Four in France. There was 12 planned last year. Driving your car like this man has done

00:16:22.200 is exactly what the Inspire magazine, which is Al-Qaeda's magazine, which was downloaded by 50,000

00:16:28.160 British Muslims last year. 50,000 British Muslims downloaded a terrorist manual in our country.

00:16:33.000 50,000. Not 10, not 20. 50,000 people who want to see exactly what you see there. That's what they want.

00:16:40.540 They want war. They want death. They want destruction. And we keep on pandering, like you just come up to me,

00:16:45.960 saying it's got nothing to do with Islam. It's got everything to do with Islam. 0.67

00:16:49.200 Everything to do with Islam. 0.98

00:16:50.160 It's got everything to do with Islam.

00:16:51.300 I'm simply asking how you're sure of the political markets.

00:16:53.120 OK, well, I'm on the reality. This is the reality. The reality is this is a war.

00:16:56.780 These people are waging war on us for time. This has gone on for 1,400 years.

00:17:00.520 This is nothing new. And the whole time while this goes on, police leaders or political leaders

00:17:05.300 want to invite more. They want to invite more.

00:17:07.980 Well, back then, Tommy had a reputation as the former boss of the EDL, and he had had some scuffles

00:17:14.880 with the law, but he took to journalism like a fish to water. And soon his videos were getting

00:17:21.020 millions of views. And his social media accounts, especially on Facebook, were the most engaged

00:17:27.180 with social media accounts in the entire United Kingdom. Tommy Robinson on Facebook had more

00:17:32.880 engagement than either the prime minister or the leader of the opposition. He was huge.

00:17:38.400 And in response to this, because he was the only person in the media or in politics talking about

00:17:43.080 these issues, there were actually parliamentary hearings talking about him by name. In fact,

00:17:47.920 I remember one case when Google's head of counterterrorism was summoned before the British

00:17:52.760 Parliament. And they asked him, why aren't you banning Tommy Robinson? Take a look at this

00:17:57.680 craziness.

00:17:58.460 How do you feel about hosting Tommy Robinson on YouTube?

00:18:03.400 Yeah, I mean, obviously, I find his point of view on the world abhorrent. And I think it's a very

00:18:08.560 difficult call. I presume he's looked at the policies and tried to ensure that any videos on

00:18:13.460 YouTube don't contravene the policies. And our reviewers have taken that view at the moment.

00:18:18.260 They'll keep it under review. And that's very different from the video content he's used on

00:18:23.460 other platforms, which is why he's been banned elsewhere. We have to look across instances like

00:18:28.720 that and check that we think that the policies are in the right place. Because there is a

00:18:33.060 responsibility here that balances freedom of speech versus stopping hate speech and incitement

00:18:39.980 to violence. And I know, I think in this case, I'm not personally that close to it, but I think in this

00:18:44.600 case, we've had one political leader saying you absolutely should take this off YouTube and another

00:18:49.000 political leader say you absolutely must leave it up there. These videos on YouTube don't get

00:18:54.260 monetised by advertising. They don't get access to the tools other creators have. But, you know,

00:18:58.880 from a journalistic point of view, from a public interest point of view, understanding what kind

00:19:02.240 of views are out there, maybe that is useful. And so that's where we're trying to make sure that

00:19:05.920 our policy is in the right place.

00:19:07.100 But does that make you think, the fact that he's able to be on there when he's been banned

00:19:10.520 elsewhere, that your policies are wrong?

00:19:13.480 It gives you pause for thought all the time when you're dealing with these challenging cases. I

00:19:17.560 think in his instance, as I understand it, the videos are different on different platforms.

00:19:21.940 But I think, you know, it's absolutely an area that's under very close review all the time.

00:19:25.960 Well, it wasn't hard to twist the arm of social media companies to ban people on the right.

00:19:31.700 They were all doing it. And soon enough, Tommy had all of his social media turned off,

00:19:36.500 including Twitter. So the slanders would mount against him and he couldn't fight back. Not just

00:19:43.200 that, but when he tried to, he was arrested. Tommy worked for Rebel News and then we parted ways.

00:19:49.680 And about 90 days after he left us, he was arrested for contempt of court for this video. And you show

00:19:56.800 me where the contempt of court is. This was a rape gang that had been on trial. The trial was over and the

00:20:03.140 verdict was going to be delivered. So the trial was all over. And Tommy was simply asking the accused

00:20:07.960 rapists as they were going into court, how do you feel about your verdict? Take a look at what

00:20:11.600 Tommy asked the men.

00:20:12.680 How you feeling? How you feeling about your verdict? How you feeling about your verdict? How you feeling

00:20:19.220 about your verdict? How you feeling about your verdict? How you feeling about the verdict? You got your

00:20:22.380 prison bag, will you? Yeah, look at you. Got your bags, will you? You got your bags, will you? Yeah. How you feeling

00:20:27.040 about the verdict? Oh, I suck your mum's funny. You got no guilt. Is there any guilt? Is there any guilt, mate? Is there any guilt?

00:20:32.720 You're done. It's the devil.

00:20:35.080 For that, he was arrested by half a dozen cops, put in the back of a truck, whisked away to a trial that took less than 10 minutes.

00:20:45.380 Tommy himself never spoke a word. And he was sent to prison. He was sent to prison that day.

00:20:52.140 And later put in solitary confinement. Watch that astonishing arrest.

00:20:56.920 10 of 1 streaming. I've been arrested for breach of the peace. Are you arresting him?

00:21:00.320 I've been arrested for breach of the peace. You've all watched this. You've all watched this.

00:21:03.300 You've all watched this. Can you get me a slisser? Can you get me a slisser?

00:21:07.660 Can you just turn off your life feed, please? Yes. Can you get me a slisser?

00:21:09.860 Just turn off your life feed, please. Yeah.

00:21:12.100 Do you understand what I'm just talking to you?

00:21:13.340 So, can you explain it again?

00:21:14.480 The arrest for the suspicion, following the breach of the peace.

00:21:16.820 What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean?

00:21:19.460 What does that mean? What does that mean?

00:21:23.240 What does that mean?

00:21:27.920 Not at all. He's never said that.

00:21:31.640 George, how is the information I've got?

00:21:33.500 I'm inciting people. I'm inciting people.

00:21:35.400 You know, you've walked up through his video and watched him.

00:21:38.160 This is free speech. This is where we're at.

00:21:41.160 You're not even allowed to. Look at this.

00:21:43.040 Look how many people.

00:21:43.700 Do you know when you do this?

00:21:45.560 More people are going to watch this now than ever.

00:21:56.480 This is ridiculous, lads. Do you feel right what you're doing here?

00:21:59.040 I haven't said a word.

00:22:00.060 In fact, someone laid their hand in an assault with me outside court.

00:22:02.800 Other people have squirted me and threatened me about my mother.

00:22:05.780 And here I am being arrested for saying nothing.

00:22:07.620 I'm threatened to behead me.

00:22:08.700 He's not said anything about me.

00:22:09.900 What are the arresting you for, Tommy?

00:22:11.160 A breach of the peace. Apparently I'm inciting on my video.

00:22:14.280 Can you please, George, get me a solicitor?

00:22:16.640 Yeah.

00:22:17.040 Because I'm there.

00:22:17.700 Because I've got this.

00:22:18.380 I'm going to suspend his sentence.

00:22:19.860 He has actually done nothing wrong.

00:22:22.700 He can start anything like that.

00:22:24.220 Let's see.

00:22:24.660 As I mentioned, by that point, Tommy was not working for us anymore, so I didn't have the

00:22:30.320 authority to jump into high gear.

00:22:32.080 It took me about a month to get the permission and authority of his family to intervene on

00:22:37.780 his behalf, to crowdfund lawyers, to get him out of prison.

00:22:42.260 By the time we managed to get him out, we realized what a month and a half in solitary

00:22:47.700 confinement had done to him.

00:22:49.860 Take a look at this when he finally got out of prison.

00:22:52.620 And here he is now.

00:22:54.660 Yeah, the camera's pointing this way.

00:22:56.300 They've been very insistent that I not.

00:22:59.420 Hey, Tommy.

00:22:59.840 Hey, thanks, man.

00:23:00.200 How you doing, mate?

00:23:00.660 Good to see you, man.

00:23:01.420 You all right?

00:23:01.840 I'm doing great.

00:23:02.680 Look at you.

00:23:03.440 I know, man.

00:23:03.980 First stop hairdressers, yeah?

00:23:05.180 I know.

00:23:05.920 Have your fun with your memes.

00:23:08.800 Tommy, it's great to see you.

00:23:10.160 It's good to be seen.

00:23:11.320 You're in better health than you were last time.

00:23:14.240 We visited you a few times.

00:23:15.440 Say a few words to your supporters who have been rooting for you these past 66 days.

00:23:20.820 Yep.

00:23:21.700 I'd say it's been...

00:23:23.020 I've enjoyed reading the support and hearing the support.

00:23:27.580 For me, the main thing for this would be an embarrassment to the British government,

00:23:31.520 an embarrassment to the judiciary.

00:23:33.580 In the judge's words, so let's pretend I did commit contempt to court, which I did.

00:23:36.980 In her words, it was unintentional.

00:23:38.380 So something that was unintentional, something that was unintentional that had zero effect

00:23:42.720 on a trial, would result in a man, a journalist, being put in prison, spending two and a half

00:23:48.280 months of soldier requirement in Onley.

00:23:49.540 And this is the crazy thing.

00:23:51.800 I walked into Belmarsh Prison and walked out without seeing another prisoner.

00:23:56.200 But in a way, that was good because in Onley, they would have killed you if they could.

00:24:02.360 No, they would have done.

00:24:02.960 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:03.840 Essentially, the governor here has done...

00:24:05.940 I don't have a negative word to say about Belmarsh Prison or any of the stuff.

00:24:10.040 Other than the insanity that you were in here to begin with.

00:24:12.080 Other than the insanity.

00:24:13.120 And by putting me at the Old Bailey, they knew they'd get me in Belmarsh.

00:24:15.960 So then they can get me on isolation.

00:24:18.560 Whereas if they would have put it in the second biggest court in the land, which was Winchester,

00:24:22.600 I'd have gone to the Cat B local in Winchester.

00:24:24.780 I'd have been fine because there's no Muslims in the jail. 1.00

00:24:27.140 But essentially, I know I look a mess, so have your fun with it.

00:24:30.260 And it's ginger, so I look like a little cowardly convert coming out of jail. 0.94

00:24:34.020 Well, they retried Tommy and they sent him back to prison.

00:24:37.840 And I started going over there from time to time to do prison welfare checks.

00:24:42.140 Here's an example of my visit to the UK.

00:24:44.900 I just left HMP Belmarsh, the high security prison on the east end of London,

00:24:51.320 where Tommy Robinson is serving out his nine-month sentence for contempt of court.

00:24:57.940 The good news is, in five seconds, I could tell that Tommy is healthy.

00:25:04.780 He's healthy physically and he's healthy psychologically.

00:25:08.900 And that's important to say.

00:25:11.820 That might sound obvious.

00:25:12.880 It is not at all obvious.

00:25:13.920 Because he wasn't okay in HMP only.

00:25:25.420 He just wasn't.

00:25:26.940 He was half starved.

00:25:29.380 He lost 40 pounds, three stone, as they say in the UK, in his 10 weeks of incarceration.

00:25:34.720 He was absolutely shell-shocked and stressed from being put in solitary confinement for 23 and a half hours a day.

00:25:42.360 No exercise, no human contact, not even a TV to give him a voice.

00:25:46.920 And then in the half hour a day he was let out of that box,

00:25:50.640 it was to be in like a thunderdome where he was shouted and screamed at by the other prisoners for half an hour.

00:25:57.160 So 23 and a half hours a day of silence, sensory deprivation,

00:26:03.300 and then half an hour a day of absolute abuse.

00:26:07.240 That is a dictionary definition of torture, both on the physical side, starving him,

00:26:13.420 and on the mental health, psychological side.

00:26:17.360 Let me contrast that to his treatment at Belmarsh, where he, I asked him how he's eating.

00:26:24.700 He says that the food that they give him is fine.

00:26:28.340 It's great to see him laugh.

00:26:29.720 I know that's something we take for granted on the outside.

00:26:34.240 I don't think there's a lot of laughter in prison, especially a prison like Belmarsh,

00:26:40.120 especially an isolation unit.

00:26:41.840 What they did to you was a form of physical and psychological abuse.

00:26:46.240 Yeah, so I haven't had a conversation with anyone for two and a half months.

00:26:49.580 I haven't seen anyone.

00:26:50.920 So other than one hour, twice, where I saw my wife and children.

00:26:55.620 For one hour only?

00:26:56.760 Yeah.

00:26:57.500 Murderers get more time than that.

00:26:58.800 And when I saw them, it was, um, it wore me out for that one hour.

00:27:03.200 It was a big thing to, I don't know, by the end of it, it's not, I don't know, it's just.

00:27:08.800 I heard that in prison you had constant threats.

00:27:11.900 Is that true?

00:27:12.960 I have, so what's going on, I had threats every day.

00:27:16.180 You know this heat that we've had here?

00:27:18.060 I couldn't have my cell windows open because they would be spat through or shit put through them.

00:27:23.300 Oh my God.

00:27:24.180 And so I had my windows shut all the time.

00:27:26.380 And then at the same time as that, I had just threats from everywhere.

00:27:30.360 And then at the same time as that, I had the police visiting my mother and my wife to tell them that there's intelligence, there's going to be acid attacks on them.

00:27:36.260 Now, I don't know if, you know how bad it is for me, I don't even fit, I don't believe their intel.

00:27:42.200 I think all of this and the timing for all of it is so I'm on solitary confinement.

00:27:48.340 And this is happening outside, which I can't deal with.

00:27:51.240 But when I do get a chance to ring home, I find out the police are at my house.

00:27:54.300 And my wife's crying and they're scared.

00:27:56.840 And is there really intel saying that?

00:27:58.820 And everything they've done.

00:28:01.100 Do you know why they moved you to a more dangerous prison?

00:28:03.820 They moved me from H&P Hull, which was a 7% Muslim population, to the most densely Muslim populated prison in the country. 0.99

00:28:11.280 Did they give you a reason?

00:28:12.740 No, they give no reason.

00:28:14.800 But then what they, I know why they did it.

00:28:16.440 Because what they then did is they used the excuse of my safety, which when I got there, they put me straight on solitary confinement.

00:28:25.260 They locked me straight away, which was 23 and a half hours a day, locked in a room in a blue mat.

00:28:28.900 And then for 30 minutes a day, they opened the door and you walk into a cage this size, small, and you walk around the cage on your own.

00:28:36.300 And then they opened the door and locked it back in.

00:28:37.720 Like an animal.

00:28:38.700 And do you know if every prisoner had that?

00:28:42.100 If that was the sentence for prisoners, it was the fact that every other prisoner's cell door opens at 8 o'clock in the morning and they're out of their cell working, having football, playing pool, and then they get locked up at 6 o'clock at night.

00:28:55.160 And I think, I haven't done anything.

00:28:57.240 Well, Tommy has had various brushes with the law, but he's had various successes too.

00:29:02.060 It's obvious that he is being treated as an enemy of the state.

00:29:05.380 Here's an example.

00:29:06.540 Last year, there was a pro-Israel march against anti-Semitism in London.

00:29:10.720 And Tommy has always been pro-Israel and anti-Islamist.

00:29:14.600 Tommy showed up as a working journalist, but one of the far left-wing organizers of this march demanded that police arrest him.

00:29:22.880 And they did.

00:29:23.820 Just because one guy said so.

00:29:25.620 Look at that atrocious event.

00:29:27.120 Are you trying to endanger my family?

00:29:28.740 Don't be so stupid then.

00:29:30.040 Get a break.

00:29:30.760 You're asking me to give my address on all these cameras.

00:29:32.920 Are you creating a problem?

00:29:34.920 You're purposely doing that as well.

00:29:36.160 I know where to do it.

00:29:37.160 Yes, you are.

00:29:37.780 Listen, it's the first few years.

00:29:40.140 City of London, Royal Bank of the United States.

00:29:42.340 Do you believe in freedom of the press?

00:29:44.340 Pandent of Paris Houston, but not including Houston Street.

00:29:49.120 My direction is now leave immediately.

00:29:52.240 Okay, can I reply to that quickly?

00:29:53.760 This notice is now for 24 hours.

00:29:56.460 So you must leave a locality.

00:29:57.920 Officer, can I reply to that please?

00:29:59.560 You need to go right down King Street to the way to Haybourne train station.

00:30:04.680 And the grounds of this is your presence is likely to call harassment, alarm and distress to attendees at the march.

00:30:12.920 Okay, can I reply?

00:30:14.500 I'm going to now get this in.

00:30:15.960 Go on.

00:30:17.020 This was the Metropolitan Police Force yesterday.

00:30:18.840 The right of the press to freely report on protest is no less important than the right to the protest itself.

00:30:23.840 They should be able to do so without placing intimidation and aggression, officer.

00:30:27.920 Officers spoke with the journalists and their team following the incident.

00:30:30.900 I'm a member of the press.

00:30:32.260 I'm at work.

00:30:34.120 Is anyone here caused alarm and distress by my presence here?

00:30:37.100 Ladies, everyone's Jewish here. 1.00

00:30:39.120 There's no one who's caused alarm and distress.

00:30:40.300 No one has come up to you and said anything about me.

00:30:43.880 You are working under the orders of Sadiq Khan and Mark Rowley.

00:30:46.620 Mark Rowley is an apologist for Hamas.

00:30:48.960 They're apologists for jihad.

00:30:50.280 And the British public are fed up of your tutel policing.

00:30:52.900 I'll write it if you refuse your address, but I understand why.

00:30:55.460 Officer, I'm here to do my job.

00:30:56.640 So you're just doing your job.

00:30:58.220 I heard that about 1940s.

00:31:04.620 I heard the Germans saying I'm only doing my job.

00:31:07.960 The difference is I don't put a trope on that slant on it, like you lot.

00:31:11.620 I'm just here to do my job.

00:31:12.900 That's my cameraman.

00:31:13.920 I'm at work.

00:31:14.440 Do you think a member of the press should be arrested for doing their job?

00:31:17.700 No.

00:31:18.260 I'm glad the journalists are saying that.

00:31:19.760 So, Stephen, this is your...

00:31:20.580 Is there any Germans to do? 0.83

00:31:21.460 Stephen, listen, this is your dispersal notice.

00:31:24.060 Tommy was literally pepper sprayed in the face while handcuffed and banned from going into

00:31:51.400 London for half a year just because some left-wing organizer didn't want it.

00:31:55.860 Tommy appealed that in court and won.

00:31:58.060 Here's our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed reporting on that victory.

00:32:00.900 Tommy, reaction to the verdict today?

00:32:03.880 I'm thrilled, yeah.

00:32:04.940 I'm thrilled, but I'm still angry.

00:32:06.500 I'm shocked, actually, that you won in court.

00:32:08.800 So am I.

00:32:09.360 I'm shocked.

00:32:09.700 I'm shocked.

00:32:10.300 I don't think they had anywhere they could go on it because it was so blatant and the

00:32:13.920 world watched a video of it.

00:32:15.220 But I'm still angry with what they've been allowed to do.

00:32:17.920 I'm still angry that my rights and my freedoms have been taken from me for six months.

00:32:20.640 I'm still angry that the public have had to support a case to the tune of £60,000.

00:32:25.080 This has cost £60,000, yeah?

00:32:27.420 How?

00:32:28.140 Why?

00:32:28.660 Why was I in court in the first place?

00:32:30.180 Who should be in court?

00:32:31.180 The officer who attacked me?

00:32:33.120 The officer who gave the full-sat order?

00:32:34.880 The officer who admitted changing the forms?

00:32:37.060 They should be in court.

00:32:38.200 Someone should face punishment for what's happened.

00:32:41.320 But I feel I am happy.

00:32:43.240 I am happy.

00:32:43.860 I just still think that...

00:32:45.360 I still think...

00:32:46.380 I know they're going to do this again.

00:32:48.280 They're just going to be more careful with the paperwork.

00:32:50.640 Well, it's a weapon they use.

00:32:53.340 Lawfare is a weapon, yeah?

00:32:54.660 They use the judiciary.

00:32:56.220 They use the police to silence you, to harass you.

00:32:59.040 As I said, this is probably the seventh or eighth time I've been in court on this case.

00:33:02.400 Just on this case.

00:33:03.500 Your time's taken up.

00:33:04.520 Your energy's taken up.

00:33:05.620 You're continually fighting the system, yeah?

00:33:08.260 And they throw it all at you.

00:33:09.440 It comes at you from everywhere.

00:33:10.500 So, I am happy, yeah?

00:33:12.500 I am happy.

00:33:15.200 I'm a bit overwhelmed because I didn't expect...

00:33:16.760 I just didn't expect a judge to ever side me.

00:33:19.360 There was no jury in there.

00:33:20.200 It was a judge.

00:33:20.820 So, I'm glad we found a judge who stood on truth.

00:33:24.080 Because I've been in some of these court cases before where I think, well, we won that.

00:33:27.540 And then I end up getting...

00:33:28.300 I end up getting convicted.

00:33:30.640 So, yeah, I'm happy.

00:33:32.320 And it's an embarrassment for the Met.

00:33:33.660 A total embarrassment for them.

00:33:34.780 Their behavior is an embarrassment.

00:33:35.900 Their actions are a behavior.

00:33:36.660 And the fact they've gone through this case is an embarrassment.

00:33:39.560 Well, with Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson was born again on Twitter, where he now has more than

00:33:45.020 half a million followers.

00:33:46.580 Not only does he have a platform now, but he's sort of been re-normalized.

00:33:50.940 Banning someone from the public square doesn't just silence them.

00:33:54.480 It's sort of a mark, a stigma on them that they've done something morally wrong.

00:33:58.600 Even though when you're banned from social media, you don't have a trial.

00:34:01.460 Well, putting Tommy back on social media has not only given him a big following again,

00:34:06.660 but given him the credibility that he is part of the political conversation.

00:34:11.080 And just a few weeks ago, Tommy led a massive march in central London.

00:34:16.600 And, I don't know, 10 or 20,000 people were there, including our own Alexa Lavoie.

00:34:21.080 Take a look at this.

00:34:22.360 Thank you.

00:34:23.840 But Elon Musk hasn't just given me a voice.

00:34:27.200 Citizen journalism is the answer to the corrupt media. 0.99

00:34:32.480 OK?

00:34:32.640 He sent them a message to say that we want today to be the start.

00:34:37.540 We want to get planning.

00:34:38.320 You see all the people there?

00:34:39.640 The Mayor 2C's, the Lawrence Foxes, the Calvin Robertsons, the Carl Benjamin, all of them

00:34:44.400 people.

00:34:45.360 A movement needs to be formed down.

00:34:47.580 All of them sitting down together.

00:34:49.260 Everyone who sees this country under attack, everyone who wants to solve it, they don't

00:34:53.780 have to agree with every part of each person's politics.

00:34:56.280 Just agree on the principal points.

00:34:58.380 Freedom of speech.

00:34:59.320 Stop sexualization of children.

00:35:00.880 Stop wars.

00:35:02.400 Yeah?

00:35:02.600 We don't want to go to war.

00:35:03.580 OK?

00:35:03.940 Not for some globalist bullshit agenda.

00:35:05.440 Tommy is making movies.

00:35:06.940 He's doing journalism.

00:35:08.760 He's a political activist.

00:35:10.460 And he's tapping into a hunger in the UK, a hunger for change.

00:35:14.340 The same hunger that Nigel Farage is tapping into as the leader of the new Reform UK party

00:35:19.440 that's upending the Tories.

00:35:21.100 I think Tommy's a very interesting guy.

00:35:23.700 He's an interesting storyteller.

00:35:25.480 But he's an interesting story in himself, his own life.

00:35:29.560 And I think his life and what's been done to him is a warning for us here in Canada, too,

00:35:35.980 of what could happen if we let go of our freedom of speech and if Islamification is something 1.00

00:35:41.860 we can't talk about.

00:35:44.840 So if you are interested in meeting Tommy, go to TommyTour.ca.

00:35:49.040 We're going to be taking him across Canada.

00:35:51.100 Stay with us.

00:35:52.080 More ahead.

00:36:03.720 Well, our friend Alexa Lavoie didn't just record that very short Welcome to Montreal video.

00:36:08.980 She had a bit of an interview with Tommy.

00:36:10.800 And here's how that went.

00:36:14.800 Alexa Lavoie for Rebel News.

00:36:17.080 And I'm currently at the Montreal airport.

00:36:20.380 Why?

00:36:20.700 Because Tommy Robinson is supposed to arrive in a couple of minutes.

00:36:26.760 We don't know yet if the security would let him through.

00:36:32.360 But we hope so because we have a special event with him in Toronto and Calgary.

00:36:38.420 You can right now purchase your ticket.

00:36:41.660 The general admission will be $50.

00:36:43.340 And if you want a VIP with a full meal and hear from him and meeting privately with him,

00:36:51.380 it's a VIP ticket.

00:36:53.000 You can purchase that at TommyTour.ca.

00:36:56.500 We are here.

00:36:57.500 We want to speak with him.

00:36:59.020 We want to have his first impression.

00:37:00.840 It is terrific to see what's going on in Canada.

00:37:04.960 If you are a criminal and you want to come in Canada, it's easy. 1.00

00:37:09.460 You just walk through the border and they will welcome you with open arms.

00:37:14.080 They will give you everything that you want.

00:37:16.500 But for someone like Tommy Robinson, who is a journalist and activist, who is shedding light on different topics.

00:37:26.620 And, of course, he is politically incorrect in the view of the government because he is not following the same narrative like him and Ivi Yimeni.

00:37:39.120 When they try to go to other countries, they try to block them and they try to stop them to come. 0.97

00:37:46.800 Why?

00:37:47.780 Just because of their view and their opinion.

00:37:51.120 This is just crazy.

00:37:53.100 We will see if the security will let him through.

00:37:57.440 I know now he is still on the plane, but we will know in a couple of minutes.

00:38:02.100 But I say it to you.

00:38:04.540 We want his first impression, but we want you to go over TommyTour.ca.

00:38:10.160 Purchase your ticket.

00:38:11.160 It's probably the only time in your life and his life that you will have the chance to meet with him.

00:38:18.400 So go to TommyTour.ca.

00:38:20.500 Purchase your ticket.

00:38:21.700 And if you want more, don't forget, the VIP one gives you more time with him and the chance to speak with him one-on-one.

00:38:31.840 So we are currently waiting.

00:38:34.280 But what we know so far, Tommy has been stopped right now and he's currently at the immigration.

00:38:41.380 We are hoping for the best.

00:38:43.460 So finger crossed.

00:38:44.540 How are you, Frank?

00:38:52.680 Are you good?

00:38:54.140 I'm very happy.

00:38:55.400 Good, so am I?

00:38:56.240 Oh, my God.

00:38:57.180 I know, man.

00:38:58.080 I thought the longer it went, I thought I'm just not getting in.

00:39:01.300 I was like...

00:39:01.940 It's good, isn't it?

00:39:03.220 So for, what, three hours and a half in the immigration?

00:39:07.560 Two hours, yeah.

00:39:08.780 So did they say anything to you?

00:39:10.820 Nah, just ask what I'm doing here, who I'm visiting.

00:39:14.220 It's good.

00:39:15.400 Were you scared?

00:39:16.020 Yeah, of course.

00:39:17.060 I never thought I was getting in.

00:39:18.680 Is it your first time?

00:39:19.900 First time in Canada.

00:39:20.800 Oh, my God.

00:39:21.560 Welcome.

00:39:22.860 I didn't even get in Mexico.

00:39:24.340 I landed to go to Mexico and they didn't let me in.

00:39:27.080 So, but that was the British again. 0.97

00:39:29.180 So, yeah, I'm in.

00:39:30.040 So you flew from Copenhagen?

00:39:33.700 I flew straight from Copenhagen because I was there for work.

00:39:37.160 Okay.

00:39:37.680 So, what are you going to do here in Canada?

00:39:40.980 I'm happy to be in Canada.

00:39:42.040 Do you know, people from Canada have supported me for years.

00:39:43.760 Yeah, I, Ezra Levant, Rebel Media, put me on my path of journalism, which I'm very grateful for.

00:39:50.360 So I'm here to, I'm going to hook up with Ezra.

00:39:52.640 I believe we're doing Calgary.

00:39:54.220 We're going to be in Calgary June 24th, Edmonton June 25th and Toronto June 30th.

00:39:59.300 I've got a few other people I want to see.

00:40:00.880 Gadsad, Tammy Peterson.

00:40:03.280 I'm blessed.

00:40:04.340 I'm happy.

00:40:04.800 I never know the whole time flying here.

00:40:06.120 I didn't expect to get in.

00:40:07.500 So I'll say, I didn't even book a hotel.

00:40:09.980 I've got to sort it out now.

00:40:11.060 Because I didn't book it because I thought there's no point because I might not come, get through.

00:40:14.820 But I'm happy.

00:40:15.920 I'm tired, but I'm happy.

00:40:16.980 I'm happy to be here.

00:40:18.340 And you have an event that's coming up in England.

00:40:22.360 In England, it's July 27th.

00:40:24.120 It's going to be massive.

00:40:25.500 It's going to be massive.

00:40:26.400 But do you know, I just found out, they've just given me a court date today.

00:40:28.840 I just heard that.

00:40:29.400 To try and send me back to jail.

00:40:30.220 For a film that I made four years ago.

00:40:33.240 I made a film four years ago that was released in America 18 months ago.

00:40:37.460 So when I made the film, it exposed corruption of the government, of the local council and the judiciary.

00:40:42.360 And they gave me an injunction preventing me from ever showing anyone it.

00:40:45.140 And I didn't show anyone it because I'd go to jail.

00:40:47.860 And it was released in America.

00:40:49.280 It was leaked in America 18 months ago.

00:40:51.500 I want to hurt you because you didn't hurt it from a lawyer of the court itself.

00:40:57.840 I want you to tell us how you learned about it.

00:41:01.160 Yes, I haven't heard it from the court.

00:41:02.560 I haven't heard it from anyone.

00:41:03.680 I've heard it from a far left NGO organization who operate to attack people like me.

00:41:08.820 And they're the ones that have put out breaking news.

00:41:10.900 Tommy Robinson's in court July 27th.

00:41:12.420 First I know of it.

00:41:13.640 First I know of it, which shows that they are working alongside the judiciary to attack people.

00:41:18.680 And to silence people.

00:41:19.880 It's on July 29th.

00:41:22.620 It's my court date.

00:41:24.420 Two days after you.

00:41:25.340 Two days after the event.

00:41:26.860 Yeah, two days after the event.

00:41:28.280 I haven't been in the country for weeks.

00:41:29.640 Since June 1st, I haven't been in the UK.

00:41:31.720 So maybe they were trying to get me in court before.

00:41:33.360 I don't know.

00:41:33.740 I haven't been there.

00:41:34.940 So I've been away.

00:41:36.000 I've been in Spain.

00:41:36.900 I've been in Denmark.

00:41:38.540 And now I'm here.

00:41:39.900 Now I'm here for a few weeks.

00:41:41.200 Come on, Canada.

00:41:42.720 So Tommy is going to be with us for multiple events.

00:41:48.000 You can have your ticket.

00:41:50.320 I invite you to purchase it at TommyTour.ca.

00:41:53.480 You can have just the general ticket.

00:41:56.160 But you can buy your VIP to spend time with this fella.

00:42:00.800 And have like a meal with him to learn about him.

00:42:03.960 And I think it's, first of all, it's his first time.

00:42:06.400 And it's probably your last time.

00:42:08.180 It probably is my last time.

00:42:09.480 Yeah.

00:42:09.640 I'm surprised I'm here.

00:42:11.320 So that's why I said it.

00:42:11.960 It's probably the last time I'll ever be allowed in Canada.

00:42:14.240 So I'm happy.

00:42:15.060 And do you know why I'm happy?

00:42:15.760 Because a lot of people have supported me.

00:42:16.960 And I have messages all the time.

00:42:18.260 I had people, three different Canadians just in the last two days,

00:42:21.460 messaging me saying, come to Canada, come to Canada.

00:42:23.600 So I'm happy to be here.

00:42:24.600 I'm happy to hopefully get to meet some of the people that have supported me

00:42:27.760 for the years of my journalism with Ezra, the years of my work.

00:42:30.420 And I want to see Canada.

00:42:32.600 So come on.

00:42:33.300 And by the way, we had one of our journalists,

00:42:37.380 Evie Eminey, that was blocked in New Zealand in the past. 0.95

00:42:40.240 And I was getting really worried because it's been like three hours and a half.

00:42:46.260 And I was like, I'm worried it will not get through.

00:42:50.660 But I want just a quick word about the censorship that you experience.

00:42:56.040 Not just in England.

00:42:57.520 I think it's a little bit everywhere where you go.

00:42:59.620 You call it censorship or there's a mixture of censorship and lawfare.

00:43:02.800 So they're not just happy with silencing people anymore.

00:43:05.580 They want to destroy them, financially bankrupt them.

00:43:07.780 That's what they've done to me.

00:43:08.800 The film that I released is about the court case

00:43:11.580 where they bankrupt me for 1.6 million pounds.

00:43:13.780 My film and my covert recordings prove the entire case is fraudulent.

00:43:17.600 It proves hands down.

00:43:19.300 That's why they give me an injunction, not let me show the public it.

00:43:22.240 But then they were unhappy because it got released in America.

00:43:25.000 And then look at the timing, yeah?

00:43:26.780 We have our event on June the 1st.

00:43:29.460 It goes very successfully.

00:43:30.760 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people there.

00:43:32.900 We've organised another event which is going to be the biggest gathering of patriots

00:43:36.760 that Britain's ever seen.

00:43:38.140 We're going to fill Trafalgar Square.

00:43:40.200 I think a million people will probably be watching it live.

00:43:42.460 The whole world's going to have their eyes on London on 27th of July.

00:43:44.980 And then, bang, they come and dig up a case.

00:43:48.640 They dig up a film that was released 18 months ago

00:43:50.900 and they'll give me two years.

00:43:52.680 They send me to the High Court of London.

00:43:54.840 No jury.

00:43:55.600 I don't get a jury for this case.

00:43:57.280 So I'm up before a judge.

00:43:59.480 But anyway, I'll stop.

00:44:00.480 That's the negativity.

00:44:01.380 The positivity is I'm in Canada.

00:44:02.720 You're here.

00:44:03.340 I'm here.

00:44:03.780 So let's go.

00:44:04.700 TomyTool.ca right now.

00:44:07.320 I look forward to seeing you.

00:44:08.140 Hey, welcome back.

00:44:21.500 Your Letters to Me.

00:44:22.820 Chocomalk says,

00:44:24.460 Why do journalists need qualifications but not politicians?

00:44:28.100 Oh, my gosh.

00:44:28.740 That's such a great question.

00:44:29.580 It's obviously about the court case for the Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization.

00:44:34.260 And this is one of the things I was, well, I say to anyone who will listen to me,

00:44:39.600 imagine the chutzpah of politicians saying, we're going to vet journalists.

00:44:44.660 We're going to see if journalists are up to snuff.

00:44:46.800 It doesn't work that way.

00:44:48.040 It's the opposite.

00:44:49.580 Journalists and all of us get to scrutinize politicians

00:44:52.980 because they're the ones who hold power in trust for us.

00:44:57.120 We don't have to prove anything to politicians.

00:44:59.960 They have to prove everything to us.

00:45:01.800 But that's a great point.

00:45:02.880 Tara Fox says,

00:45:06.340 You'd think independent media would be considered more a viable news than state-funded media.

00:45:12.860 Well, viable, if you mean economically viable,

00:45:17.200 getting free cash from Trudeau sort of guarantees you're viable as a financial success,

00:45:22.820 even if you've lost all your viewers.

00:45:24.340 That's what's so incredible about the CBC.

00:45:26.480 I'm not sure if you've been following our reports on this,

00:45:28.600 but year after year, the CBC's viewership falls.

00:45:34.140 How is that possible?

00:45:36.920 They get more money than ever.

00:45:38.820 The population of Canada is larger than ever.

00:45:42.300 How are they falling?

00:45:44.000 Well, it doesn't matter to them as long as they please one particular viewer.

00:45:47.580 Angel of a million years says,

00:45:50.260 Please interview Tamara and the truckers weekly and encourage them to run for office at all levels.

00:45:57.080 Well, I mean, we love Tamera Leach, if that's who you're talking about.

00:46:01.340 And we'll certainly interview her when, or I don't think that she would really give interviews about her trial when that resumes.

00:46:08.980 So, you know, we'll talk about her case.

00:46:10.900 But I don't think we're going to talk to her about the trial until the trial is over.

00:46:16.040 We wouldn't want to prejudice her case.

00:46:18.120 As you know, when her trial is on in Ottawa, we have Robert Krejcik, our court reporter, covered every day.

00:46:25.040 He attended literally every single day of court.

00:46:28.060 Right now, he's in Lethbridge, Alberta, for the trial of two of the Coutts four.

00:46:34.800 And he's doing those reports every day.

00:46:37.840 If you haven't seen them, you can see them at truckertrial.com.

00:46:42.620 We love Tamera Leach.

00:46:43.960 We support her in everything she does.

00:46:46.100 We even published her book, as you may know.

00:46:48.640 And we'll certainly, if she has any news to say, we'll certainly be there to report it.

00:46:53.760 And like I say, we will be there to report on her court case.

00:46:56.860 I do hope that she remains in the public sphere.

00:47:00.660 But I have to say, she's a real person.

00:47:03.080 But she's got a husband and kids. 1.00

00:47:06.620 I think she's a grandma.

00:47:08.680 And, you know, she may not want to run for public office. 0.98

00:47:12.920 You may want her to.

00:47:14.440 But it'll be interesting to see what she does.

00:47:16.240 It's clear that she does well in the public sphere and has really taken a personal approach to everyone who reaches out to her.

00:47:23.740 But that's a little bit different than running for public office.

00:47:26.440 But you could be right.

00:47:27.640 You know, I sometimes try and convince people to run for the Senate in Alberta.

00:47:33.080 For those of you in the nine other unlucky provinces, every once in a while, the province of Alberta actually has a Senate election.

00:47:40.080 Now, Justin Trudeau appoints whoever he wants.

00:47:43.860 He doesn't respect elections.

00:47:45.600 But when the next conservative prime minister takes office, and if there is an opening during his term, it has been the tradition.

00:47:54.060 I mean, Stephen Harper did it, of appointing elected senators.

00:47:58.340 Don't you think that would be a good thing for Tamera Leach to run for? 1.00

00:48:02.900 That's our show for today.

00:48:05.380 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:48:10.220 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:48:11.240 Thank you.

00:48:12.060 Let's see you in the special event.

Rebel News Podcast - June 18, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ I never thought it could happen： Tommy Robinson touches down in Canada

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