Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ I see some early warning signs that things are about to get worse

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I had a great trip to Calgary. I was very happy to travel again,

00:00:04.020 happy to be that fairly free city. I'm back in Toronto now. And I'm thinking that, you know,

00:00:10.060 just because I was personally happy to fly doesn't mean that the world is getting better. In fact,

00:00:14.180 today, I see a few things converging that tell me maybe things are going to get worse. And I don't

00:00:19.500 want to be a pessimist. I like being hopeful. But I will take you through a few observations that

00:00:24.280 suggest they want to put us back in a lockdown this fall. I'll take you through the evidence.

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00:01:04.440 All right, here's today's show.

00:01:10.520 Tonight, I see some early warning signs that things are,

00:01:24.280 going to get worse. It's June 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:32.180 I'm back in Toronto after a few days in Calgary. I met our team out there.

00:01:46.960 I hadn't even met some of those folks ever because they were hired during the pandemic. And of course,

00:01:52.940 most of our people, including me, couldn't travel over the past year. I liked meeting them in person,

00:01:58.260 and I'll have some news in the weeks ahead about our plans for a permanent Calgary office. We've

00:02:03.620 been renting a temporary space there for a little while. I like our Calgary team and our Vancouverites

00:02:08.940 and Edmontonians came into town for the day too. And we went out for a bite of dinner together again,

00:02:14.760 something that we wouldn't have been able to do during the worst of the bigoted lockdown. I say

00:02:19.760 bigoted because there was no science to it. It was perfectly punitive. I'll give you an example.

00:02:26.100 I was talking at some length with an Air Canada employee on the journey. I hadn't seen any Air Canada

00:02:32.280 folks in over a year. And I recognized this old fella from when I used to travel back in the day.

00:02:38.240 And I was asking him what it's like to work there these days. We talked a bit about the recent

00:02:43.840 airport meltdown, especially in Toronto, Montreal. And while some of that is indeed on the airlines,

00:02:49.060 most of it absolutely is at the hands of the government, which thought you could turn airports

00:02:54.840 into massive healthcare inspection and punishment facilities without affecting the logistics of the

00:03:00.640 industry. We truly have the stupidest people in government. Here's the hapless minister blaming

00:03:06.160 everybody but himself. On our end, we have done everything we can that is within the control of

00:03:12.840 the federal government. Now we need to work with airlines and airports at dealing with the flight

00:03:18.800 delays and luggage handling issues because we need the cooperation of airlines and airports to address

00:03:26.440 these issues. Anyways, put aside the current airport meltdowns, I was talking to this gate

00:03:31.820 agent about the extremely limited exceptions there were for letting unvaxxed people fly on planes the

00:03:38.320 past year. Planes, by the way, have some of the best air circulation anywhere, as you could probably

00:03:42.820 guess. I mean, it's easy to get a stream of fresh, cool air when you're flying at 500 miles an hour,

00:03:48.140 five miles up. Great ventilation. Don't take it from me. In fact, no one less than Teresa Tam herself

00:03:54.720 said that transmission in a plane is extremely rare but Trudeau banned the unvaxxed from planes

00:04:00.680 though he permitted them to take the same journeys at a fraction of the speed on buses. Riddle me that

00:04:08.320 one. But here's what this Air Canada staffer pointed out. There were extremely limited exemptions

00:04:16.680 for medical reasons. So Air Canada actually had a team of doctors whose job was really to reject

00:04:22.280 exemptions. A history of anaphylactic shock, in fact, was not even enough, for example. And extremely

00:04:29.420 limited religious exemptions. I'd be surprised if there were a grand total of 100 exemptions granted

00:04:35.480 by Air Canada in the entire country. But here's what this Air Canada staffer told me. There were no

00:04:41.400 compassionate grounds for exemptions. So for example, if your parent was dying and you want to get to the

00:04:49.180 deathbed or had died and you wanted to get to the funeral, tough luck. You couldn't fly to say your

00:04:56.680 final goodbyes or to bury them. No compassionate exemptions were allowed. But here's the thing.

00:05:03.320 Even if you were a conscientious objector to the vaccine, but you said, look, this is awful,

00:05:09.980 but I want to be beside my dying wife in her final moments. Fine. This is extortion, but fine. I'll get

00:05:18.380 the jab. Just let me on the plane. Well, sorry, it wouldn't work because Air Canada and the other

00:05:24.720 airlines were forced by the government to make you have both jabs. And I think the rule was 14 days

00:05:31.700 apart. So there literally was no way to comply, even if you surrendered your conscience to Trudeau.

00:05:39.980 Too bad. Unless you had a time machine to go back in time to take the two jabs two weeks before you

00:05:47.660 found out your family member was dying, no luck. So it was purely vengeance and punishment. It was a

00:05:54.540 way of rubbing your nose in it that you dared to defy Trudeau. Now enjoy a personal pain that you'll

00:06:00.480 carry with you for the rest of your life. No science. Just Trudeau's political bullying with the support of

00:06:05.760 entire establishment. And this Air Canada staffer told me it was his job to tell people who were

00:06:12.180 grieving that they could not get on the plane, even if they took the jab. That was his job. Imagine

00:06:18.640 having that job. It was a bit of a downer, frankly, but I was happy to travel again despite delays both

00:06:25.240 coming and going to Calgary. But you can make a mistake in life by assuming that what you see is

00:06:30.960 what the world is. That if it's not in your field of vision, it's not happening. Solipsism

00:06:37.140 is a word for that. So while I was happy to travel again and happy to be back to the fairly free city

00:06:46.880 of Calgary, and perhaps that might make me hopeful. Perhaps I put a spring in my step, but I have to temper

00:06:52.560 that self-centered happiness with other observations. I won't repeat my remarks from

00:06:59.340 earlier this week about the triple setback, the arrest of Tamara Leach for silently posting

00:07:05.960 this selfie. I mean, she's not even talking in it clearly. She's just smiling. That selfie is why

00:07:12.740 she was arrested. The sentencing of an Edmonton church to $80,000 in lockdown fines. We'll talk to

00:07:18.380 Sheila Gunn-Reed later in the show about that. And this commission of inquiry that our friend

00:07:22.340 Dre Humphrey is covering about the commission of the RCMP and her corruption there. Three pieces

00:07:27.480 of bad news all at once, but let me show you some other things to keep in mind. Here's why I have a

00:07:32.980 nagging pessimism under my happiness. I opened Twitter today, which lets you curate your own news

00:07:39.420 sources, right? You can choose who to follow on Twitter. That's why it's so much fun. You can follow

00:07:43.700 all conservatives, if you like, or all liberals, or a mix of both. I like to see what the other side

00:07:48.320 is saying. Or none. You could just go, no politicians at all, just sports or entertainment.

00:07:53.780 But Twitter, more and more, takes a heavy hand. Remember, that's what their new CEO, Parag Agarwal,

00:08:00.160 said. They want to steer your attention towards certain stories and away from other stories.

00:08:06.180 That's a hidden kind of censorship and propaganda, isn't it? So you can curate your own news, but they

00:08:11.400 push you there. So I opened Twitter today, and I saw this. They were pushing a story from the Globe and

00:08:16.960 Mail very hard. They were suggesting it to everyone. Fears of a COVID-19 summer surge

00:08:23.120 prompt experts to call for a return to masking. Experts say, please don't use that word with me

00:08:30.980 ever again. Has there been anyone more debased and debunked this past year than experts? I'll read a bit

00:08:38.820 from the story. It's time to bring back indoor mask wearing requirements, some health professionals

00:08:44.820 say, amid concerns of a potential surge in COVID-19 cases this summer. In fact, according to Alberta

00:08:51.400 emergency physician Chuck Worcester, public health authorities across the country dropped the mandate

00:08:57.060 prematurely. There wasn't any indication that it was safe to do that, Dr. Worcester said, pointing to the

00:09:03.460 influx of COVID-19 patients. He has seen in the emergency department as never really having stopped.

00:09:09.780 Masks should always be the first thing that we use and the last thing we get rid of.

00:09:15.620 So they're priming the pump. They're getting you ready. They're starting to make you psychologically

00:09:19.780 prepared. This is one of Canada's largest newspapers. It certainly is the official newspaper of the

00:09:25.840 establishment of the insider elites. It's owned by Canada's richest man. The oligarch,

00:09:31.180 David Thompson, he's worth 50 billion U.S. The establishment is calling. They want their

00:09:38.640 lockdowns back. Say, who is this Chuck Worcester? They call him an emergency physician. They call him

00:09:44.820 an expert. I'm sure he is a physician, but is that really the most important thing to know about him

00:09:51.060 when we're deciding to obey him or not? I mean, it could be, but I think his relentless,

00:09:57.660 half-crazed Twitter page is actually more illuminating. I mean, he is an unhinged partisan.

00:10:06.520 Thousands and thousands of tweets comparing conservatives to Nazis. He's an ideological

00:10:12.020 extremist. He regularly bashes any partisan conservative, from Jason Kenney, the premier,

00:10:17.660 to Pierre Pauly, usually with childish insults. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.

00:10:22.200 I'm just saying for the Globe and Mail to call him a medical expert without pointing out that he's,

00:10:28.260 in fact, a radical political activist and advocate. Well, it's a little bit misleading,

00:10:32.840 isn't it? They put him up as a scientist. The guy's a ranting pundit. The article isn't that

00:10:39.660 interesting to be candid. It's just some celebrity doctors who clearly miss being celebrity doctors

00:10:44.420 on TV because their 15 minutes of fame or 15 months of fame are up. They loved the pandemic

00:10:50.780 with all their hearts. They were important. They were political bosses without the bother of an

00:10:56.280 election, without an opposition, without accountability. What's not to love? Most of them

00:11:01.100 had huge pay raises, huge social prestige raises. They want that back. But the fact that Twitter was

00:11:09.640 promoting this story all day seemed odd to me, except as a premonition, they are not done with

00:11:15.600 us yet. Remember when the Liberals said they were changing the definition of fully vaccinated from

00:11:20.960 two shots to an indefinite number, just up to date? We have considered all options, and we will keep

00:11:27.740 considering all options as we keep protecting the health and safety of Canadians. That's what they ask of

00:11:33.140 us. That's what we'll keep doing. And according to what public health experts have told us, internally,

00:11:39.900 and as you heard Dr. Tam say publicly on Friday, we now need to transition. We transition to an up-to-date

00:11:47.000 status, which for most adults means a third dose. There are approximately 60% of adults in Canada that

00:11:55.220 have a third dose. We need to move that up significantly, at least to what we have had for the last few months,

00:12:02.540 in terms of second doses. Yeah, why would they do that? Why would they change the definition now that

00:12:07.720 the mandates are over? I mean, why would it matter what the number is if nothing hangs on it? I mean,

00:12:14.100 they're not going to use that number, right? Well, maybe they are going to use that number again. Maybe

00:12:19.100 they're going to say, we have the 20th wave of the virus, the omega variant, so we need a new dose

00:12:26.960 of the vaccine. I mean, Trudeau literally bought 400 million doses. That's more than 10 doses for

00:12:34.720 every man, woman, child, and baby in the country. He kept the contracts secret. I bet he spent $20

00:12:39.820 billion on that. We know he gave Pfizer and Moderna immunity from lawsuits for any harm

00:12:45.640 done to Canadians. If you bought 400 million doses like a fool, you'd probably want to use them

00:12:53.780 to avoid looking like a fool. As in, you could say, well, you see, we needed them, aren't I wise,

00:12:59.520 as opposed to, gee, we didn't need them after all. Sorry for the money. A new definition of fully

00:13:05.280 vaccinated to being up to date with the current day, 400 million doses, a new media campaign

00:13:10.880 by wild celebrity doctors, the re-arrest of the trucker grandma to Merrill Leach, the lockdown of

00:13:17.640 Ottawa, like a prison city because they're worried about a Canada Day freedom rally,

00:13:22.420 so they're literally shutting down Parliament Hill for all Canadians. That's a bit crazy.

00:13:29.720 I don't know if you saw this in the Ottawa Citizen. They're out of control. The police chief in Ottawa,

00:13:34.500 he says he plans to arrest anyone with a sign that is racist or sexist. Now, we don't like racism or

00:13:41.940 sexism, but it's not a crime to be racist or sexist. Otherwise, our black-based prime minister

00:13:49.840 would be in prison if it was. So, get ready for more abusive policing. The chief has summoned it.

00:13:57.360 But I'm worried about all this converging. Remember, most of the laws that were used to put us in the

00:14:03.160 lockdown remain on the books. We are still in a pandemic emergency. That's the only legal basis for

00:14:08.060 people to take a drug that is not fully tested. It's called the Emergency Use Authorization.

00:14:13.500 It's what it's called in America, a similar thing up here. That's the machinery. We're in an emergency.

00:14:19.560 Here's a small example. A few weeks ago, Trudeau cut one bizarre and unscientific piece of red tape

00:14:26.340 for airports. If you were flying into Canada for the last year, which would have meant you were

00:14:33.040 vaccinated already, they still pulled aside a random sample of people and made them take a COVID test.

00:14:39.460 What? They've already, they just got off the plane. So, what are you doing? And they're vaccinated.

00:14:45.020 Where's the signs? What even is that besides some make work project? Well, imagine what that would have

00:14:51.420 done to travel logistics at airports. Anyways, after the airport meltdown, like I say, a few weeks ago,

00:14:57.020 they cut that one piece of red tape, but they didn't cancel it. They just suspended it temporarily.

00:15:05.140 Here's a story in Reuters. The random testing will be continued from Saturday and will resume off-site

00:15:14.960 on July 1st, the statement said. Oh, so they're bringing it back. They're not done yet. They actually

00:15:23.620 abandoned it, but they're going to bring it back. They're ramping up the call for masks. They bought

00:15:27.680 400 million doses of meds. They're bringing in more flight rules, not fewer. They're arresting peaceful

00:15:34.320 protesters again. They're prosecuting, not pardoning people who broke some lockdown rule a year or two

00:15:41.340 ago. My friends, I don't think they are done with this yet. They missed the lockdowns. They missed the

00:15:48.580 drama. They didn't miss the power. They missed the sense of purpose it gave them because they didn't

00:15:54.480 suffer. Only you did. If they bring back the lockdowns, what will you do? Stay with us for more.

00:16:03.440 Well, I note that in the United States, very early on, different state governors saw that local police

00:16:23.080 forces were getting a little too exuberant with their crackdowns on churches, on small business

00:16:28.940 people. I remember in particular, one case in Texas of a hair salon owner, so desperate that

00:16:34.680 her company would be destroyed by the lockdown. She opened in defiance of the law. The governor saw

00:16:40.360 that, stayed the prosecution of her case. And in fact, in states like Florida and Texas, there was a 0.98

00:16:46.700 blanket amnesty, a stay of all prosecutions, and a vacating of any fines or other punishments.

00:16:54.180 Basically, those governors said, we're not going to punish people. And any little official, any cop,

00:17:01.920 any local busybody who's going to try and chase someone down, I'm just in advance pardoning them. 0.96

00:17:07.360 That put a stop to it because they wanted to put a stop to it. And I refer to pretty much every single

00:17:15.320 jurisdiction in Canada where tickets that were issued up to two years ago are still making their way through

00:17:23.680 the courts, with police coming as witnesses, with government lawyers as prosecutors, with government

00:17:33.760 judges judging them. There's no end to them. And even though some of them have aged out, I mean,

00:17:41.080 typically if you're charged with an event and you're not prosecuted within two years, the charter says

00:17:46.860 that you didn't have a speedy trial. There have been cases where violent criminals have had the case

00:17:53.220 against them stayed for want of prosecution. I haven't heard much of that in Canada. And one of

00:17:58.820 the worst cases is in the province that claims, as its motto, strong and free. I'm talking about the

00:18:04.720 province of Alberta, where some of the most brutal lockdowns and persecutions of the lockdowns

00:18:10.100 has happened. A church in northern Alberta was prosecuted and was in court very recently

00:18:17.880 for not causing COVID, not failing an inspection, but rather for asking the health inspectors to come

00:18:26.680 back, just not at the exact moment when the church was in service. Joining us to tell the story and what

00:18:33.700 the judge said is our friend and chief reporter, Sheila Gunnery, who joins us now from Edmonton. Sheila,

00:18:39.300 great to see you again. You were at the trial of Church on the Vine, Church in the Vine. The trial

00:18:47.720 is actually over. They were convicted. You were at the sentencing hearing for a church. You don't hear

00:18:53.500 those words very often. Tell us what it was like. Well, it's bizarre because, as you say, you don't

00:19:02.960 experience this and you never would think that you would experience this, particularly in Alberta,

00:19:07.320 about Church in the Vine. Yesterday morning was their sentencing hearing. They were previously

00:19:12.240 convicted. The church as an entity and the pastor, Pastor Tracy Fortin, were convicted of three counts

00:19:19.040 of obstructing a public health officer. Now, that's particularly noteworthy because Church in the Vine

00:19:26.440 has never been accused nor convicted of violating a public health order. They've never been accused of

00:19:36.200 COVID noncompliance. What happened here is the health inspectors and the police, who were part of this

00:19:44.480 hunter-killer task force directed at churches, they would come week after week and barge into the church

00:19:52.220 and interrupt the church while the little ones were in Sunday school, while people were reading their

00:19:58.880 Bibles. At one point, while Pastor Rodney Fortin, Pastor Tracy's husband, was on the pulpit preaching,

00:20:05.800 the health inspector said she tried to talk to him while he was giving services. Oh, my God.

00:20:12.040 So, Pastor Tracy said, this is crazy. You're not coming in here anymore. Now, she's the nicest,

00:20:18.440 sweetest woman you'll ever meet in your life. Not violent, not rude, not anything like that. But she just said,

00:20:23.900 you can come back, just not while we're preaching. We'll happily take whatever time you need to walk

00:20:29.880 you through all of our processes, but you're not coming in during church services. So, week after

00:20:34.860 week, Tracy would sit at the front and turn the health inspector away and say, just come back at a

00:20:39.880 different time. You're not going to run around here like a bunch of lemmings with your clipboards 1.00

00:20:43.860 in the Sunday school. It's not happening. For that, they were convicted of three counts of obstructing a

00:20:49.620 health officer. And yesterday, they were fined $80,000. So, church fines plus victim surcharges.

00:20:58.960 Who's the victim here, by the way? The province? Yeah. Of a total of $80,000.

00:21:07.600 You know, I used to be a lawyer. I used to be involved in criminal law matters. Sometimes the

00:21:15.360 criminal code or another law says a punishment of up to, let's say, two years in jail or $25,000

00:21:22.940 fine. And what actually happens in practice, especially for a first offense, is no jail time.

00:21:30.300 And if there was a $25,000 specified penalty, you know, maybe it's a $500 fine. I just, in fact,

00:21:37.540 I mean, it's been a while since I practiced law, but you don't have to be a practicing lawyer to know

00:21:41.780 that for a first offense at anything, where there's no violence, where there's no harm or malice,

00:21:47.400 often there is no penalty at all. No penalty at all. For this judge, at the behest of Jason

00:21:54.860 Kenney's health cops and Jason Kenney's secret prosecutor, I understand from your tweeting,

00:22:00.180 that the prosecutor said she didn't want her name spoken in public like she was some gangland

00:22:05.800 prosecutor. By the way, what is her name? Her name is Karen Thorsrud, and she's also the

00:22:10.480 one behind the prosecution of James Coates. So she is also part of this hunter-killer task force

00:22:15.900 directed at Christians, not just the religious community, but moreover, specifically Christians

00:22:22.120 in Alberta. She's the one behind that. So I understand why she doesn't want her name

00:22:26.000 used in open court, but there is no publication ban on her name. It's just for her own comfort.

00:22:32.560 So that's why I'm using her name. She's such a bigot. I mean, imagine having, imagine saying,

00:22:38.260 I want to go to law school and I want to join the Justice Department. Why? Do you want to put

00:22:43.420 away bad guys? Do you want to take on murderers and robbers and kidnappers? No, I want to go around

00:22:49.020 Alberta prosecuting Christians. Hey, when you're done your tour of duty in Alberta, I bet you China 1.00

00:22:56.400 or Iran or North Korea could hire you for your expertise and your track record to shut down those 0.95

00:23:03.980 house churches there, except for I don't think they would have $80,000 penalties for a first

00:23:08.300 offense. That's super gross. Now, James Kitchen is the lawyer who's fighting this. I understand he's

00:23:14.660 going to appeal. Is that right? Yeah. So James Kitchen has been helping the church in the vine since

00:23:20.480 the very beginning. They became a democracy fund case. If people want to donate to offset their legal

00:23:27.760 fees, it's at savepastortracey.com and donations, there are tax deductible, but we're not done with

00:23:33.660 this yet because they're appealing the conviction and they're trying to stay the fines in advance of

00:23:40.560 the outcome of that appeal. So they have until the end of August to come up with $80,000 in fines

00:23:48.700 or the province wants civil enforcement. That means taking their house, taking their car,

00:23:54.200 maybe taking their church building, maybe taking the sound system out of the church. We don't know

00:23:58.580 what civil enforcement will look like, but the province wants their pound of flesh from this

00:24:02.900 church for simply protecting their congregation. I've never heard of anything so gross. And again,

00:24:09.420 when it comes to civil enforcement, you don't have to be a practicing lawyer to know

00:24:12.960 how gross that is. There's certain exemptions. You can't take away someone's business tools to make

00:24:18.760 a living. Imagine going into a church and they, for all we know, they might seize the church and

00:24:24.260 expropriate it. Not the first time. Not the first time. That's what Jason Kenney did to the Grace Life

00:24:31.640 Church. He turned into a police outpost and put the latrines right on the steps of the church just to

00:24:40.280 show that he was physically and morally shitting on the church. Sorry to swear. Super gross.

00:24:48.420 I got a question for you. I mean, an $80,000 fine, it's got to be coming close to a record in Canada

00:24:54.760 for a lockdown fine. I mean, I heard rumors that there was a fine out there somewhere that was in

00:24:59.020 six figures, but it's not coming to mind right now. This may well be the biggest fine there is.

00:25:03.720 And it's not to some mega corporation. It's to a church. And it's not for breaking a health order.

00:25:08.380 It's just for telling the little inspector Stassi to come back when things weren't underway. Was there

00:25:15.520 a single other reporter that you saw either covering the trial or reporting about it from

00:25:22.100 long distance? A single other reporter? Not one. In fact, CBC finally caught up to my reporting when

00:25:28.360 the church was convicted about 10 days later. And they found out from trolling Pastor Tracy's Facebook

00:25:35.340 page. And I think they even published a picture of me that was taken with Church in the Vines calling

00:25:40.420 me an unidentified woman. They copy your story and then they call you an unidentified woman. They have

00:25:47.160 to say that to cover their tracks if they were just rewriting your work. Yeah. You know, but yeah,

00:25:52.860 there's no interest from the mainstream media about this story that is really taking on a bit of an

00:25:59.280 international focus because the outside world, particularly the Americans, they cannot even

00:26:05.280 believe what's happening in Alberta. It's the kind of thing they don't even try to pull in California

00:26:10.020 and they're doing it in so-called conservative Alberta. Now we do have a petition at SavePastorTracy.com.

00:26:16.860 So if you go to SavePastorTracy.com, you're going to see a bunch of things. You're going to see my

00:26:20.660 coverage so you can sort of follow along with the plight and the trials and tribulations of this church.

00:26:26.300 You can see our billboard along the side of Highway 2 because I want as many people to know in this

00:26:32.320 province that the persecutions are still going on even though the lockdown restrictions and Jason

00:26:38.360 Kenny are gone. And you can help fund the legal fees and the appeal for the church. And you can sign

00:26:44.980 our petition at SavePastorTracy.com and we're going to do something special with that. Sure, Jason

00:26:49.760 Kenny's gone. He's doing the long goodbye. We are going to hand deliver that petition to all the UCP

00:26:56.120 leadership candidates because we want a commitment from them that there must be an amnesty on these

00:27:02.440 so-called COVID scoff laws. They didn't do anything wrong. They didn't hurt anybody. Nobody was there

00:27:07.880 that didn't want to be there. Why are we trying to ruin these people if not just to deter anybody

00:27:14.040 from standing up next time? You know, that is such a great analogy. You use the word amnesty and I'm

00:27:19.400 familiar with certain terms in law and policy like a gun amnesty. Happens a lot in the United States.

00:27:25.700 There are certain firearms and if you give them up to the police, they won't ask any questions. They'll just take

00:27:30.760 the guns and no questions asked. Sometimes they even pay you for them. There's immigration amnesties. They have

00:27:38.500 that a lot. And they've had that in the United States. They talk about having it more where, okay, you came

00:27:43.620 into the country illegally, but you can get on the right track this way and we won't prosecute you. And then there's

00:27:48.720 even tax amnesties. We have those in Canada that you can, if you did some cheating, if you did some

00:27:55.660 tax evasion, you can come to the government and they won't ask too many questions. All sorts of

00:28:02.700 amnesties and these three things I'm talking about, illegal guns, illegal immigration, tax cheating are

00:28:08.060 very serious. Imagine an amnesty for those things, but not an amnesty for a church that politely asked

00:28:16.600 a government inspector to come back, not right in the middle of the pastor's sermon. Super gross. And

00:28:23.420 that's how I started this interview is saying true leaders who care about freedom wouldn't let

00:28:29.780 little bully cops or bully prosecutors do this, that they stay all the prosecutions immediately.

00:28:35.780 But it's not just that Jason Kenney is letting these police and prosecutors doing this. He assigned

00:28:42.420 them this job. He is encouraging them. I think it's his vengeance. The more I see Jason Kenney deal with

00:28:48.720 these freedom protesters, like with the truckers, he started using Trudeau language about radicals,

00:28:55.000 extremists, hateful. Like he started using Justin Trudeau language. It was super gross.

00:29:01.880 And I think just like Justin Trudeau is really vengeful against people who disagree with him.

00:29:06.300 I sense a whiff of vengeance in the air. It's well into 2022. The lockdowns are gone.

00:29:15.600 But Kenney just wants his pound of flesh from these churches.

00:29:18.100 Yeah. And I think that this church is exceptionally under the ire of the government because when the

00:29:28.980 vaccine passports came and when the workplace vaccine mandates came, Pastor Rodney and Pastor

00:29:35.200 Tracy were working 24 hours a day to interview people, to intake people, to do their best to

00:29:43.500 assess their sincerely hold religious beliefs and write exemptions for them so that they could,

00:29:49.680 when these people were abandoned by their own churches and forced into a vaccine by their own

00:29:56.400 employer just to pay the bills, they picked up the pieces and they did everything they could to help

00:30:02.080 people to get around the force of the state. That's what this is about.

00:30:06.380 Churches dared to say our religious belief is that we shouldn't be forced to take these

00:30:12.220 vaccines and we're going to write a letter to people. No wonder the government hates them so 0.98

00:30:16.280 much. I didn't know that part of the story. That shows the true ulterior motives of Jason

00:30:21.940 Kenney's lame duck regime. It's a real problem, I think, that Jason Kenney, although he announced

00:30:28.280 he's quitting, he's still running the show. Aaron O'Toole, the coward who was finally toppled by

00:30:34.400 the truckers. At least he had the good graces to say goodbye immediately. There was an internal

00:30:40.600 leader chosen almost immediately in the form of Candace Bergen. And whatever you have to say about

00:30:45.860 Candace Bergen, you know she's a temporary caretaker leader and she's not Aaron O'Toole, which is the

00:30:51.280 best thing you can say. Jason Kenney said goodbye, but it was with a giant asterisk, bit of a sneaky,

00:30:58.380 slippery goodbye. And he is still running the show, abusively prosecuting and

00:31:04.320 persecuting these churches. That's super gross. Yeah. I mean, especially when the reason he is,

00:31:12.360 I think, no longer leader or he's still leader while he does this sort of waltz out the door

00:31:17.840 months later. The reason he had to resign is because of what he's still doing right now.

00:31:24.480 I believe that.

00:31:25.060 He attacks on the churches. I think it was good for 15% right off the top. I don't care what your

00:31:29.560 religion is. When you see government officials issuing fines, arresting pastors on rainy streets,

00:31:37.300 barging in with clipboards while people are trying to pray, it doesn't matter what your religion is.

00:31:41.420 It doesn't matter if you're a secular person. Most normal people see that there is no possible way

00:31:47.500 that that can be right and just and appropriate in a free society. And that's why Jason Kenney had

00:31:52.940 to show himself the door. Yeah. You know, it's funny. You just made me think of all the liberal

00:31:58.260 media and the liberal politicians. They're apoplectic that Quebec has a bill called Bill 24. It's actually

00:32:03.880 law now. And it's the I don't know if we use this word in English very much, laity or laicity law

00:32:12.600 as a archaic way of saying secular law. They have a law in Quebec that if you work in the public service,

00:32:19.820 you cannot have conspicuous religious symbols. And there's some legitimate controversy about that.

00:32:26.100 It's clearly come about because of the face obscuring burqa, which is alien to our Western 1.00

00:32:32.720 concept of looking people in the face. That's one of the reasons I hated the masks is we couldn't see

00:32:37.140 each other's faces. This laicity law in Quebec also bans yarmulkes, Sikh turbans, big conspicuous 1.00

00:32:44.700 crosses, too, by the way. Now, some people like that law. Some people don't. I understand the

00:32:50.140 rationale for it. I don't think I've thought a lot about it, but it is unanimous amongst the fancy

00:32:55.260 people. But that that law is atrocious and that it is destroying freedom of people who like to wear

00:33:01.600 big conspicuous religious symbols. And I'm and I'm sure it does. All those people, the Venn diagram

00:33:08.860 would be a complete overlap. It would be just two circles right on top of each circle. The people

00:33:13.960 who are appalled by Bill 21 and want to use the charter and we have to stop Bill 21. Every one of

00:33:23.340 them says go harder against these guys churches, crush them, prosecute them, set up a special task

00:33:32.460 force to get the churches. The overlap is complete, Sheila. Yeah. And, you know, there's really even as

00:33:41.020 the UCP leadership rolls on so far, I see three contenders for the leadership saying this should

00:33:50.860 not have happened. It's Todd Lowen, Daniel Smith, who said this should not have happened. And I will go on

00:33:58.220 an apology to her to try to make this right with Albertans and Bill Rock. But outside of that,

00:34:03.980 what really should be the overarching issue of the leadership campaign, given that it's the reason

00:34:11.700 that Jason Kenney is no longer going to be leader, you'd think that more people would be talking about

00:34:16.780 it. But it's the mainstream media that drives these conversations in the public and they love it.

00:34:22.280 Yeah. Well, very interesting days. Sheila, thanks so much for covering that church case and the other

00:34:30.340 ones that you do. There are many church cases that are still afoot in Alberta. Of course, Pastor Arthur

00:34:35.560 Pavlovsky's case is live. And I'm delighted that the Democracy Fund is defending him, defending Church

00:34:42.180 in the Line and defending other churches too. It's appalling to me that other churches are either silent or

00:34:50.980 frankly against these freedom churches. I think that's really gross. I'm embarrassed that no

00:34:59.120 synagogues or mosques or Sikh temples have come to the aid of these churches. You know, you've been to

00:35:07.180 the Holocaust Memorial in Israel. I've been there with you. There's something called the Righteous

00:35:12.660 Gentiles. They have the Garden of the Righteous Gentiles. These are Christians who protected the Jews, 0.99

00:35:18.140 like Oskar Schindler being one of the most famous examples, at personal risk. Like the people who

00:35:23.600 hid Anne Frank. They were Gentiles. They hid Anne Frank because it was the right thing to do. They 1.00

00:35:28.300 weren't Jews themselves. Where are the righteous Jews? Where are the righteous Sikhs, the righteous Muslims, 1.00

00:35:34.100 the righteous Hindus? They're letting these Christians twist in the wind. Where is the Solidarian? I tell you, 1.00

00:35:41.640 if you had a bunch of clergy from every faith come out and say, lay off the Christian churches,

00:35:47.980 that would pack a wallop. And by the way, it would feel very good, I think, for Christians to see 1.00

00:35:53.000 that kind of solidarity. I think there's a lot of shame to go around here. I think the media is the

00:35:59.760 worst and the government is the worst. But I'm glad you're on the story, Sheila.

00:36:03.780 You know, what you're explaining is exactly why these churches are bursting at the seams. These freedom

00:36:08.480 churches are outgrowing their buildings. And it's because Christians feel abandoned by their own

00:36:14.400 clergy who should have stood up for them, should have stood up for religious freedom, and should

00:36:18.080 have seen themselves as frontline workers during the pandemic giving spiritual aid and comfort.

00:36:23.480 But they never did. And that's why people were flooding to church in the vine. That's why Grace Life

00:36:28.080 has now outgrown its building. That's why Tim Stevens is outgrowing his building. That's why Pastor Art's

00:36:34.360 Churches packed every single week. And it's because they were let down by their own clergy,

00:36:40.280 by their own priests, that they came to the churches who stood with them. And now, hopefully,

00:36:45.640 they continue to stand with those churches as they stand up to the government.

00:36:48.980 Yeah. Well, I'm glad that we're doing our part by telling the story, or as our motto is,

00:36:55.120 telling the other side of the story, because the government and the media party is certainly

00:36:59.120 against these folks. Thanks, Sheila. Keep it up. 0.86

00:37:01.200 I will, boss. Thank you.

00:37:03.160 All right. There you have it. Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter,

00:37:05.940 the only reporter covering this huge story. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:37:22.360 Hey, welcome back. Your feedback, Brad Peterson says, have to agree with you on this one, Ezra. We will

00:37:27.020 see the federal conservative party's true colors concerning political abuse of power.

00:37:33.600 Look, for a while, conservatives were scared of the truckers because Aaron O'Toole said,

00:37:38.420 don't meet with them. He's gone. Then the conservatives were sort of outbidding each

00:37:43.020 other. I met with the truckers first. No, I met with them first. Well, now that Tamara Litch is 1.00

00:37:48.040 arrested, who's going to stand up for them? I think this is a litmus test, don't you?

00:37:52.240 Not just federally, but the provincial UCP in Alberta. Just in case, that may be a nickname,

00:37:59.900 says our Ontario Provincial Police are looking as bad as the Capitol Police down in D.C. They both

00:38:06.780 appear to directly support corporate interests above all. I don't have a lot of experience with

00:38:12.180 the OPP. You may be confusing them with the RCMP, which is heavily politicized, or the Ottawa Police,

00:38:18.660 which are just out of control. But I think many Canadian police forces have done a discredit to

00:38:23.680 themselves. Toronto was atrocious. The Montreal Police, just atrocious during the lockdown. Imagine

00:38:28.840 a curfew from 10 p.m. till 5 a.m. for everyone, sick or healthy, young or old, a curfew. That really

00:38:37.300 is what they do in dictatorships. Aaron Deneen says, the same thing is happening here in New Zealand with

00:38:45.040 persons of interest, like Tamara, detained without bail and isolated from family without charge.

00:38:51.360 Yeah, I mean, there are terrifying laws on the books, and these police and politicians have shown

00:38:57.340 they're not afraid to use them. Who knows? Maybe one day they'll come for us. That's our show for

00:39:03.600 the day. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:39:08.020 goodnight, and keep fighting for free.

00:39:10.260 Hey guys, Andrew here. We're at the Collision 2022 conference. We're going to ask people about

00:39:39.700 Bitcoin, about investments in crypto, and what type of things they've seen here for the last three

00:39:44.180 days of this conference. Let's go.

00:39:46.500 Sure. We're asking people if they're invested in crypto.

00:39:49.700 Yes, not only will we be invested in crypto, but we're making an investment in crypto in ways

00:39:54.580 that we know of customers. Well, essentially, crypto and the blockchain, it's here to stay. But the

00:40:01.060 enablement of customers to use the product, there aren't many companies that are helping customers do

00:40:06.580 that. That's what we do. We're asking people today if they're invested in any crypto.

00:40:10.660 Yeah, I have. I had invested in crypto before. What happened? I mean, it evaporated.

00:40:18.420 Do you think it's evaporated? I don't have it anymore. I actually think my grandmother invested

00:40:23.300 in crypto for me. But I personally am not. What would you recommend? I don't have any recommendations

00:40:29.940 because the market's really going down. So we're asking people how they feel about that.

00:40:33.380 Yeah, I'm not sure. I definitely should get into more investing, but I'm not sure how I feel about

00:40:39.140 crypto yet. Not yet. Not yet. Is now the time? I mean, this is, again, a very, very, very dicey

00:40:47.380 situation and a question. But then those who are a tech savior or believing in a disruptive technology,

00:40:53.620 well, you know, it's like an early bird approach. You can always jump into that and figure out what

00:40:57.940 works well for you. Very smart, sir. Thank you.

00:41:00.180 Yeah. She went to a good crypto conference this morning and kind of reinforced what I already knew.

00:41:06.180 You know, don't sell low. Either if you have it, hold or buy more right now. It's a good time to buy.

00:41:12.580 Well, yeah, we are. Obviously we own a cryptocurrency platform. We're building a cryptocurrency platform.

00:41:18.660 We're trying to get more women investing in crypto. And what do you say to people right now who are 0.83

00:41:22.580 wary about investing given the market? I'll let her answer that one. It's the best time to start

00:41:28.420 investing. It truly is. You know, opportunity. There's a lot of opportunity with volatility. So

00:41:34.500 it's a great time to start investing. No, I don't know. No, I don't. Is there a reason or you just don't

00:41:39.860 care? No, actually, I'm interested. And with the downfall that has been these days, I was a little

00:41:47.700 bit scary. But these days, the CEO of Binance was doing a conference here. And he said, like, this is

00:41:55.380 not my first winter. You should invest at this moment. I'm not a crypto speculator. I have crypto

00:42:03.540 holdings. Those holdings. I don't like it goes up and down. It doesn't matter to me. I understand

00:42:08.580 the, you know, the fundamentals and the functionality of it and its use case. So I'm just it's basically

00:42:14.660 a hedge against the U.S. economy. I am not. No. Is there any reason? I'm just not ready to do it yet.

00:42:25.780 I'm still like in doing a lot of research. I actually had an interesting conversation with somebody

00:42:30.340 who was talking about quantum computing, which is like going to blow crypto out of the water.

00:42:35.220 So, yeah, I think there's so many things out there right now. Yeah, of course. Of course,

00:42:38.820 he says. What do you have to say to people who are bashing it right now, bashing the market being

00:42:43.220 down? It's a long term game and crypto is very new. Like, chill out. I invested to support a friend.

00:42:52.740 So, yes. And what happened? I haven't looked at the NFTs that I bought, but it's to support a

00:42:59.620 friend. There's a ton of projects coming in. I do think it is the future in terms of like Web3

00:43:04.020 decentralization. So I think that is the future of what's happening. So I'm trying to learn more.

00:43:09.940 But yeah, there's going to be a lot of interesting times before we kind of really figure out what

00:43:14.020 that landscape looks like. It's a very long line for coffee. But it's very good coffee here.

00:43:20.580 Is it? Yeah. You need to also line up at the back.

00:43:24.820 I'm not trying to get into the line, sir. I just wanted to know what the line was for.

00:43:28.660 We're asking people today if they're invested in crypto. Are you?

00:43:31.700 No, I didn't. Is there a reason why or why not? Just don't care?

00:43:35.940 I still not like, didn't go like read the papers. I didn't like, how to say, didn't go deeper,

00:43:44.980 how like gonna be in the future, like how is like still in our life. That's the reason, but I'm planning

00:43:53.940 to go, but I don't know what time I'm going to go for some investment.

00:43:58.660 I have some money in Bitcoin, so I'm not checking my account because I know that it's very disappointing.

00:44:05.460 Okay, thank you.

00:44:06.660 I do invest in crypto and all my money is down right now.

00:44:09.620 Gone or down?

00:44:10.420 Down.

00:44:11.460 What would you say to people who don't want to invest in crypto? Do you advise it? Do you think

00:44:15.620 that they should buy in right now or not do it at all?

00:44:17.700 So, if they have cash flow, then buy it. Because in two years or three years,

00:44:22.500 it's going to get back to it. It's going to be like 10 times over what you're going to invest

00:44:24.980 right now. If you invest $3,000, it's going to become 30,000 in three years. That's my bet.

00:44:29.940 That's your guarantee?

00:44:30.420 Guaranteed?

00:44:30.980 Yes. That's what happened with Bitcoin as well. It was $10 at one point. Now it's like

00:44:36.980 it went up to 60k. Now it's down to 28k. It's still the profit.

00:44:42.260 I was, but I got out before everything crashed. I played the dips.

00:44:46.340 Would you advise people to get it now or not get it at all? Or how do you feel about that?

00:44:51.140 I think long term, if you have the patience, it's worth it. I could see it going somewhere.

00:44:54.980 I bought Ether at like 4k. I made a lot of NFTs, but I'm still holding on 1k,

00:45:00.020 which is a bad idea.

00:45:01.460 What's your advice for people who don't have any crypto? Should they get it now?

00:45:04.900 Should they wait longer or not do it at all?

00:45:06.740 Okay. ETH is going to dip to like 500 bucks. Wait a few months, buy then and then write it up.

00:45:12.580 Thanks, Jerry. Are you invested in crypto?

00:45:15.380 No, not really. Is there a reason?

00:45:18.980 I don't understand much about that. So I don't like to invest in something I don't understand.

00:45:24.100 Okay. Thank you.

00:45:24.820 Oh, I mean, it has nothing to do with what I'm doing. I'm more into the NFT space than individual

00:45:32.340 crypto. And do you think that's more safe and less volatile than crypto?

00:45:36.500 No, not at all.

00:45:38.100 We're asking people if they're invested in crypto. Do you have any crypto investment?

00:45:41.460 I do. It's not going very well.

00:45:42.980 No? What's your advice for people?

00:45:44.820 My advice is to do a lot of researches because me, I'm always investing more into the new than

00:45:52.420 going and do my own researches. So I invested in Shiba, in Dodge.

00:45:56.740 Me too, me too.

00:45:58.340 Not thank you to Elon Musk because that's because of him I invested in that. I heard he's getting

00:46:03.060 slipped because of that, by the way.

00:46:04.820 I hope so.

00:46:06.340 Not yet. Maybe in the future because we're going to scale and like cross-border, like

00:46:10.500 transaction will require something. So crypto will be probably one of our solutions.

00:46:16.580 I dabbled a little bit, but I'm not in anymore.

00:46:19.700 Yeah, no.

00:46:20.420 Is there any reason why?

00:46:23.060 Because so I think for now, because the downward trend of cryptocurrency here, so I think

00:46:31.940 it's a good time to get to the market.

00:46:34.900 So wrapping up our question of people are involved in crypto or not, and what kind of advice can they

00:46:39.380 give to others? Well, everybody's saying that it's a long-term game and they should probably get

00:46:43.620 invested in now, if at all. Some people are spouting the usual taglines of it's a perfect time to buy

00:46:50.340 and, you know, it's going to fluctuate like every market. But in general, I think most people are a

00:46:54.900 little bit skeptical and want to read more about it before they get into making large purchases of

00:46:59.780 cryptocurrencies.

Rebel News Podcast - June 30, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ I see some early warning signs that things are about to get worse

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