Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ If one politician can order the prosecution of pastors and small businessmen, can another politician order those prosecutions to stop？

00:00:00.000 Excited about the possibility that Alberta is going to drop the prosecutions of lockdown

00:00:04.740 tickets. Very excited. But holy moly, are there people who don't want that to happen?

00:00:09.360 No surprise. I'll take you through the legal and political arguments for why it should happen.

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00:00:55.600 Tonight, if one politician can order the prosecution of pastors and small

00:01:11.740 businessmen, can another politician order those prosecutions to stop? It's October 26th

00:01:17.580 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:19.480 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:22.460 Shame on you, you sensorism bug!

00:01:33.820 This is Arthur Pavlovsky. As you know, this was a political arrest.

00:01:38.420 Police don't need a dozen police SWAT team-style public takedown on a peaceful

00:01:43.440 Christian pastor on the side of a busy highway for a provincial offense. That's really a glorified 1.00

00:01:49.460 traffic ticket. That was a political decision made by politicians. So were the decisions to put

00:01:55.560 him in jail for 49 days. This was the Grace Life Church in Edmonton. 100 police seized it,

00:02:02.700 nationalized it really, put latrines right on the front depths of the church. Try that on a mask,

00:02:08.540 on a mosque, see how far you get. They set up a little police bunker there. They really 0.99

00:02:12.860 put a big fence around it. It was like an outpost in Afghanistan or something

00:02:17.340 because they opened their doors during the pandemic. Again, not a crime,

00:02:22.160 a health infraction like finding mice in a restaurant. That was a political decision made

00:02:27.200 by politicians. That was not real policing. Same thing with all of them. You think the jailing

00:02:33.200 and arrest of Tamara Leach was not political? The reason I tell you that and show you those

00:02:39.000 two Alberta examples of the churches is that the politician who made those atrocious decisions,

00:02:45.420 Jason Kenney, is gone in large part because of those atrocious decisions. And you saw last weekend

00:02:51.260 that the new premier, Danielle Smith, who ran on an explicitly anti-lockdown platform, you saw that

00:02:57.340 she fulfilled the campaign promise already by apologizing to the unvaccinated for their unfair 1.00

00:03:02.320 treatment. The community that faced the most restrictions on their freedoms in the last

00:03:08.020 year were those who made a choice not to be vaccinated. I don't think I've ever experienced

00:03:13.180 a situation in my lifetime where a person was fired from their job or not allowed to watch their kids

00:03:20.940 play hockey or not allowed to go visit a loved one in long-term care or hospital. We're not allowed

00:03:26.540 to go get on a plane to either go across the country to see family or even travel across the

00:03:32.240 border. So they have been the most discriminated against group that I've ever witnessed in my

00:03:37.720 lifetime. That's a pretty extreme level of discrimination that we have seen. I don't take

00:03:42.420 away any of the discrimination that I've seen in those other groups that you mentioned. But this has

00:03:47.480 been an extraordinary time in the last year in particular. And I want people to know that I find

00:03:54.440 that unacceptable, that we are not going to create a segregated society on the basis of a medical choice.

00:04:00.800 She had said similar things before. Here she was a few days earlier in Edmonton talking about adding

00:04:06.580 the unvaccinated to the list of people you can't discriminate against under the Human Rights Code.

00:04:11.280 So one of the things that we'll be coming through with in the fall as well is a change to the Human

00:04:16.340 Rights Code to make it illegal to discriminate against anyone on the basis of their COVID vaccination

00:04:24.800 status. Now I recognize that there are still some organizations and some businesses in Alberta that

00:04:32.500 is doing that. And I just want to sort of give you fair warning that we are going to be making a serious

00:04:39.380 pivot in that regard. And I would just ask if you would work with us to align your policies with the

00:04:45.260 direction that we want to go in Alberta, because we want to send the message to the community and to the world

00:04:50.600 community and to the investment markets, that this is a place that is open for business, that this is a

00:04:56.100 place that believes in freedom. This is a place that believes in free enterprise. And this is a place

00:05:01.440 where we are not going to be making arbitrary decisions that are going to disproportionately impact

00:05:07.220 the small and medium businesses in this province.

00:05:09.380 The most interesting part, I thought, was when our reporter, Selene Gallas, asked Premier Smith if she would stop

00:05:15.720 prosecuting those old tickets and charges made under Jason Kenney's regime.

00:05:21.220 Selene Gallas with Rebel News. During your campaign, you said that not only would you issue an apology to those

00:05:26.300 prosecuted during COVID restrictions, but you would also grant them amnesty. When can we expect those apologies?

00:05:31.740 I can apologize right now. I'm deeply sorry for anyone who was inappropriately subjected to discrimination as a result of their vaccine status.

00:05:44.580 I'm deeply sorry for any government employee that was fired from their job because of their vaccine status. And I welcome them back if they want to come back. 1.00

00:05:53.660 As for the amnesty, I have to get some legal advice on that. And so I've already asked my staff to request that advice so I can see how we would be able to proceed on that.

00:06:05.080 My view has been that these were political decisions that were made, and so I think that they could be political decisions to offer a reversal.

00:06:12.820 But I do want to get some legal advice on that first.

00:06:15.580 Would that also have to do with the timeline for the proposed amnesty?

00:06:19.080 Interesting. And really, why not? If they were political decisions to start them, as in not legitimate law enforcement priorities, not normal law enforcement tactics,

00:06:38.240 why can't the next leader change things back to normal, especially since she campaigned on doing so? 1.00

00:06:44.120 Well, I don't know if you saw. I mentioned it briefly. Just this week, New York Supreme Court ruled that firing unvaccinated employees was illegal.

00:06:52.360 And not only do they get do they all get their jobs back, they get back paid, too.

00:06:57.740 Interestingly, the court said the whole justification for vaccine mandates was a lie because vaccines do not stop the transmission of the virus.

00:07:05.520 So the claim that you need to do it to protect others wasn't true. Isn't that amazing? New York.

00:07:10.620 The pendulum is swinging back. Even Charlie Crist, a lockdown Democrat in Florida, he was campaigning, he was debating against Ron DeSantis,

00:07:18.660 and the Democrat was claiming to be an anti-locker downer. Think of this.

00:07:23.740 You're the only governor in the history of Florida that's ever shut down our schools. You're the only governor in the history of Florida that shut down our businesses.

00:07:31.900 I never did that as governor. You're the one who's the shutdown guy. We need to have somebody who is at the helm that understands it's important to listen to science, to do what's right, utilize common sense.

00:07:44.180 You don't just shut down at the outset. And then when it's, you know, politically convenient for you, you want to open back up to store political points.

00:07:52.220 Look, everyone has moved on. I showed you that major poll in The New York Times the other day.

00:07:57.180 And less than 0.5% of Americans think the coronavirus is a top priority. It's a tiny fringe minority.

00:08:05.660 You can see how small that club is just by going out in the public these days.

00:08:09.160 There are still some people wearing masks out there, but it's a tiny number.

00:08:14.040 Everyone else is living normally again now that the forced masking laws are gone.

00:08:18.300 It was madness. It was a madness that lasted two years, but it's over.

00:08:22.140 So why is that madness persisting in the government, still prosecuting people like Arthur Pawlowski and hundreds, maybe thousands of others in Alberta alone?

00:08:33.000 Well, luckily, I have the largest recipient of Trudeau's newspaper bailout money to explain to me.

00:08:39.300 Post Media, which owns the Calgary Herald, they have the Trudeau answer to the question.

00:08:44.380 And here's the Calgary Herald story about it.

00:08:46.700 Smith's proposal on COVID-19 fine amnesty raises political interference concerns.

00:08:54.120 Her language suggests that perhaps her intention is to actually interfere with those that are working their way through the system.

00:09:01.340 Oh, really? So it was not political interference to start, but it is political interference to stop.

00:09:07.000 Got it. Let me read a bit.

00:09:08.140 Premier Danielle Smith's proposal to grant amnesty to those fined for violating COVID-19 public health orders could amount to political interference in the justice system, a University of Calgary health law expert says.

00:09:20.500 Oh, so a health law expert says you can't stop a prosecution.

00:09:24.640 Is there anyone more discredited as a class these past years than health law experts published in a Trudeau newspaper?

00:09:31.820 On Saturday, Smith told reporters at her United Conservative Party's annual convention, in general meeting, that she's seeking legal advice on forgiveness for those being prosecuted in relation to laws introduced to help stem the spread of COVID-19 during the pandemic.

00:09:47.720 And she won her leadership race.

00:09:49.540 She won.

00:09:50.040 But a health law expert says she cannot keep that promise.

00:09:54.520 Who is this health law expert, by the way?

00:09:56.640 What Smith is describing doesn't quite align with the idea of a legal pardon, said Lorian Hardcastle, an associate professor at the U of C's Law and Medicine faculties.

00:10:08.020 That's because Smith's comments specify outstanding fines, while pardons would apply to those who have already been convicted.

00:10:15.280 Now, let me stop you right there. 0.96

00:10:16.600 Who mentioned a pardon?

00:10:18.320 A health law expert, apparently.

00:10:20.540 Danielle Smith didn't mention a pardon.

00:10:22.300 A health law expert, if she really was an expert, would probably know that provincial premiers do not have the power to grant a pardon. 0.98

00:10:28.740 That's a federal matter.

00:10:31.120 And the issues in question are not criminal offenses.

00:10:35.340 They're not federal.

00:10:36.400 They're provincial tickets, really.

00:10:38.280 But hey, don't let me stop you calling her a health law expert. 1.00

00:10:41.620 Here's what Lorian Hardcastle said about the obvious way to stop prosecutions, which is just to stop the prosecutions.

00:10:47.560 Her language suggests that perhaps her intention is to actually interfere with those that are working their way through the system, she said.

00:10:56.220 We, for good reason, generally allow prosecutorial discretion to lay charges and prosecute individuals under validly enacted laws, and we generally frown upon, for good reason, politicians interfering with the process by politicizing it, which is what she seems to be doing.

00:11:09.820 Again, we've got someone calling herself a health law expert, but she says they were validly enacted laws, but no, actually, they weren't laws.

00:11:19.980 Laws are passed by the legislature after debates and hearings and votes.

00:11:24.980 These were extreme public health orders that were issued by bureaucrats who have never been elected or subjected to scrutiny, and these were orders that they wrote.

00:11:33.020 They weren't laws.

00:11:33.820 But even if they were actual laws, we have a new premier who campaigned on changing them.

00:11:39.640 Again, how is it interference to stop it, but it wasn't interference to start it?

00:11:43.520 Where was our health law expert then?

00:11:45.680 I'll give you an answer in a moment that actually a real health law expert would say, but first let me tell you who this health law expert talking to the Trudeau media is.

00:11:54.100 I mean, is she a neutral scholarly professor?

00:11:56.820 Is she really an expert?

00:11:59.140 I took 30 seconds and checked out her Twitter feed.

00:12:02.120 I found it immediately.

00:12:04.320 What is this nonsense?

00:12:05.380 If you are so concerned with COVID, which I suspect you aren't, I suspect you are just looking for an opportunity to slag on Trudeau.

00:12:11.180 Why don't you phone up your pal Kenny and talk to him about his total failure of leadership?

00:12:14.900 Where is Kenny?

00:12:16.480 Now, look, I'm no fan of Kenny either these days, but let's not pretend we're talking to a health law expert.

00:12:21.460 We're talking to a slightly crazed partisan activist who shouts on Twitter.

00:12:26.780 Here's another one.

00:12:27.740 This government is determined not to let anyone have public health protections.

00:12:31.040 First, Kenny said he's looking into stopping municipalities from having vaccine passports.

00:12:35.400 Then, LAG told schools they can't have restrictions.

00:12:40.000 That's the education minister.

00:12:42.180 Here's another one.

00:12:43.020 This, except replace Trump throwing paper towels with Kenny throwing cloth masks at kids in schools.

00:12:48.420 I don't even understand that, but there it is.

00:12:51.980 We're all going to catch Omicron, so why even try?

00:12:55.120 Kenny doesn't seem to care how many of us die.

00:12:57.320 He's too busy enjoying Jameson in the sky.

00:13:01.900 She's a poet, maybe, but I wouldn't call her health law expert.

00:13:04.940 That's not the first thing that comes to mind.

00:13:06.560 I'll just show you one more.

00:13:08.060 Moe, that's the premier of Saskatchewan.

00:13:09.860 Moe and Kenny are two peas in the same rotten pod.

00:13:13.460 I hate seeing this happen in Alberta, where I am now.

00:13:16.760 And I hate seeing it happen in Saskatchewan, where I grew up.

00:13:18.960 They both need to go.

00:13:20.180 Like I said, I found that immediately on Google.

00:13:23.960 It's unthinkable.

00:13:24.880 It really is unbelievable that the Trudeau newspaper didn't know who this health law expert was.

00:13:29.660 But it's better to call her a health law expert for propaganda reasons than to call her a political activist who hates conservatives and gets a little crazy on Twitter, isn't it? 0.65

00:13:39.540 But let me give you a little bit of law, which this health law expert didn't do.

00:13:43.480 Here's a ruling from a little thing we call the Supreme Court of Canada, something that a health law expert could have found in a moment here.

00:13:50.740 It's a leading case called Krieger v. Law Society of Alberta.

00:13:54.280 I'm going to quote paragraph 47.

00:13:56.420 It's a little bit of legalese, but I think you can get it.

00:14:00.020 What is common to the various elements of prosecutorial discretion is that they involve the ultimate decisions as to whether a prosecution should be brought, continued, or ceased, and what the prosecution ought to be for.

00:14:12.500 Put differently, prosecutorial discretion refers to decisions regarding the nature and extent of the prosecution and the attorney general's participation in it.

00:14:22.280 Decisions that do not go to the nature and extent of the prosecution, i.e., the decisions that govern a crown prosecutor's tactics or conduct before the court, do not fall within the scope of prosecutorial discretion.

00:14:32.740 Rather, such decisions are governed by the inherent jurisdiction of the court to control its own processes once the attorney general has elected to enter into that form.

00:14:39.840 So, let me translate.

00:14:42.500 If the attorney general is involved, if a prosecutor is involved at all, they can drop the case at any time.

00:14:50.700 They can start it.

00:14:51.720 They can stop it.

00:14:53.080 They often do stop it.

00:14:54.480 Just the other week, a prosecutor dropped two out of the three charges against Arthur Pawlowski literally the morning of the trial because it wasn't in the public interest to proceed.

00:15:03.840 The test for prosecutions is twofold.

00:15:07.100 I hope a law expert might have said this.

00:15:09.760 Is it in the public interest to proceed?

00:15:11.940 And is there a reasonable likelihood of conviction?

00:15:16.680 Now, let me compare this, say, to Justin Trudeau trying to call off the prosecution of SNC Lavalin.

00:15:23.240 Remember that Quebec company?

00:15:24.860 Very corrupt, very liberal.

00:15:26.880 They had admitted to massive bribe pain. 0.99

00:15:29.640 Like, they're just really a dirty company.

00:15:32.040 And that's the kind of crime that needs a public rebuke.

00:15:35.220 You want a big, noisy trial to show the world we do not accept corruption here.

00:15:39.340 A conviction was almost a certainty because they admitted it all.

00:15:44.260 Trudeau tried to get that trial scuppered.

00:15:46.360 But lockdown cases against ordinary moms and dads?

00:15:49.880 How's that in the public interest?

00:15:51.100 These are protesters who were massively overcharged and over-prosecuted.

00:15:55.600 And partly for that reason, the courts are throwing charges out.

00:15:58.440 Arthur Pawlowski, for example, has won his last two court cases overwhelmingly, including a unanimous ruling by the Court of Appeal.

00:16:05.260 Couldn't be more different.

00:16:07.120 The SNC-Lavalin case was a serious crime.

00:16:10.100 And the details were so blatant, any prosecutor could obviously say, that's got to go to trial.

00:16:16.780 Compare that to Pastor Arthur being the—I don't know if you know this,

00:16:19.520 but Alberta introduced an eco-terrorism law called the Critical Infrastructure Defense Act.

00:16:24.980 It was a law designed really to stop eco-terrorists from vandalizing pipelines, et cetera.

00:16:32.820 All he did was give a pep talk to some of the truckers in Coutts.

00:16:37.560 He didn't protest with them.

00:16:38.580 He gave them a pep talk, and he's being charged under this law.

00:16:40.800 There's no public interest.

00:16:42.360 There's no chance of conviction.

00:16:43.960 Maybe Post Media's health law expert might take a break from tweeting against conservatives, you know, study some law.

00:16:52.640 Do you really think that prosecution of Arthur Pawlowski for eco-terrorism should continue?

00:16:57.160 One more thing about the Trudeau-SNC-Lavalin case, which I think is an important distinction.

00:17:03.140 Trudeau secretly pressured his Justice Minister, Jody Wilson-Raybould, to drop the case against his friends at SNC-Lavalin.

00:17:12.060 And when she wouldn't, he undermined her, and finally he fired her, and then he lied about it all when asked by the Globe and Mail.

00:17:18.860 Well, the fact that he kept it a secret and tried to get her to keep it a secret showed that he knew it was improper.

00:17:25.020 The fact that the liberals shut down the investigation.

00:17:26.880 By contrast, Danielle Smith couldn't be more public about this.

00:17:30.000 She's publicly and repeatedly talked about this change being made to Alberta politics in good faith.

00:17:36.600 This isn't a private favor to get a rich and powerful friend out of trouble.

00:17:40.980 It's a conscious political decision to move beyond the lockdown and the extreme policing and prosecutions that came from it.

00:17:46.960 There's another obvious difference with SNC-Lavalin.

00:17:50.980 These peaceful protests and civil disobedience, they're political, they're even religious, couldn't be more different from a real crime.

00:17:58.720 These aren't crimes at all, actually.

00:18:01.160 Arthur Pawlowski's not charged with a crime.

00:18:03.060 Keeping your church open is a crime.

00:18:04.420 It violated some health order.

00:18:06.500 Other than the handful of cases involving firearms, every lockdown prosecution in Alberta has a civil liberties element to it.

00:18:14.200 I don't know if you know, Alberta's motto is strong and free.

00:18:16.560 It ought to be the freest province in Alberta where you can disagree with the government peacefully.

00:18:22.580 Especially, like I say, since these lockdown orders were not even debated or passed by the legislature, they were all issued by these unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats, Dina Hinshaw, the Theresa Tam of Alberta.

00:18:34.620 The Court of Appeal in Alberta recently sided with Arthur Pawlowski unanimously because of the violations to his civil liberties.

00:18:40.980 I am 100% sure that if they try and prosecute Arthur Pawlowski under the eco-terrorism law, that will fail and the law might actually be struck down.

00:18:48.920 I don't know, maybe Alberta needs a black eye delivered to them by the Court of Appeal. 0.99

00:18:52.880 But why don't, why would Danielle Smith and the new government carry Jason Kenney's water?

00:18:58.020 Why would she perpetuate these out-of-control prosecutions? 1.00

00:19:00.980 The SNC-Lavalin prosecution was purely about graft and fraud.

00:19:06.580 It was a serious crime.

00:19:07.860 You think these moms and dads going to church are a serious crime?

00:19:10.420 Now, of course, the locker-downers will hate this, staying the prosecutions, because they love the lockdown.

00:19:17.360 They love the power.

00:19:18.320 They love bullying people.

00:19:19.540 They love being in the upper caste in society. 0.99

00:19:22.100 They never lost a day's pay.

00:19:24.460 And any denunciations of their lockdowns as authoritarian, well, they'll take it as an insult.

00:19:28.960 It punctures their self-image of being righteous saints.

00:19:33.520 It shows that maybe history won't regard them as the heroes they think they are.

00:19:36.400 Oh, you're going to hear squawking if these lockdown prosecutions are stopped.

00:19:42.960 In Ottawa, we're seeing right now, this whole trucker commission is showing us that when Trudeau invoked martial law, it was purely a political move.

00:19:50.260 They had no legal or factual basis.

00:19:53.200 It was just a way for the liberals to save face and embarrass the truckers. 0.86

00:19:57.460 Same thing in Alberta now.

00:19:59.940 Let me give you one more Trudeau analogy.

00:20:01.600 I wonder if Post Media's health law expert might have thought of this one.

00:20:04.600 Marijuana laws.

00:20:06.400 For many years, police across Canada, including in Alberta, simply declined to charge or prosecute any cases of simple marijuana possession.

00:20:15.500 If you had a joint on you, they'd probably throw it on the ground.

00:20:19.340 But they wouldn't charge you with it.

00:20:20.780 They might add possession of marijuana on top of a bunch of other charges someone was facing.

00:20:26.520 But they would almost never charge someone just for having a joint.

00:20:29.640 This was a political decision by police chiefs, a discretion by beat cops.

00:20:36.700 It was approved by prosecutors and attorneys general.

00:20:39.520 No one in Canada was prosecuting marijuana possession laws.

00:20:42.000 No one was.

00:20:43.740 And then Justin Trudeau campaigned on legalizing marijuana.

00:20:47.460 He tested that idea in public and he ran an election on it.

00:20:49.980 You can agree or disagree.

00:20:50.880 But my point is, for years, police and prosecutors just used their discretion.

00:20:55.500 They decided it was not in the public interest to pursue a marijuana possession charge.

00:21:00.180 And then Trudeau used his political capital to change it.

00:21:02.820 And you have to admit, he said he was going to do it.

00:21:04.860 Like criminal laws against marijuana possession, these old lockdown laws are out of sync with the spirit of the times.

00:21:13.200 The courts are starting to wake up and turn against these lockdown laws.

00:21:16.840 The people have moved on.

00:21:18.420 And the over-enforcement of lockdown laws is one of the reasons why Jason Kenney is no longer premier, is he?

00:21:25.860 And you know what?

00:21:28.080 Let the opposition bray about this. 0.86

00:21:30.420 Let them gnash their teeth. 0.99

00:21:31.720 If Rachel Notley and the NDP want to remind people how much they love lockdowns and closing schools and masking children and shutting down mom-and-pop stores and keeping Amazon and Walmart open, shutting down restaurants and gyms, absolutely.

00:21:47.140 They want to relitigate that?

00:21:48.500 They want to relive that?

00:21:49.540 Let Rachel Notley and the NDP run in the next election on locking down friends and neighbors. 1.00

00:21:55.900 Let them.

00:21:57.920 You know, in politics, there will be controversies.

00:22:00.540 In the upcoming Alberta election, there will be controversies.

00:22:03.960 Sometimes you get to choose your own controversies in politics.

00:22:07.180 Sometimes they are thrust upon you by your opponents.

00:22:09.400 It is better to choose your own controversies, choose your own battleground, your own playing field.

00:22:14.320 I think siding with freedom, making your opponents reveal themselves to be lockdown bullies, I think that's a good controversy to choose.

00:22:21.540 And when Justin Trudeau's Calgary newspaper complains about it with a wackadoodle Twitter lawyer, you know you're on the right track.

00:22:29.360 Hey, do you agree with me on this?

00:22:31.400 If so, please sign our petition at lockdownamnesty.com.

00:22:34.820 We've already got more than 21,000 signatures on it, and we just set up a billboard along the highway promoting it.

00:22:40.580 We've got a few more moves on this file, too.

00:22:42.840 I'll let you know when we're ready to announce them.

00:22:45.620 But this is important.

00:22:46.740 Look, it's a government taking responsibility for a terrible time.

00:22:49.720 We can't let the Trudeau Palace Guard and academics and the media try and stop this.

00:22:56.680 Stay with us for more.

00:23:06.660 Hey, welcome back.

00:23:07.700 Well, one of the most important things we've ever done in the nearly eight years Rebel News has been around was covering the trucker convoy.

00:23:14.100 We covered it before it even arrived in Ottawa.

00:23:17.060 We were embedded in it, in fact.

00:23:19.480 We covered it in other cities, too, down at the Coutts border crossing between Alberta and Montana, at the Windsor Ambassador Bridge between Windsor and Detroit.

00:23:28.440 But, of course, the beating heart of the center of that convoy was in our nation's capital of Ottawa, where it was camped out for weeks.

00:23:34.980 We had reporters who worked almost a month straight without a day off, covering every inch of it.

00:23:41.060 It's really what we were built for, telling the other side of the story, citizen journalism, independent from government funding.

00:23:48.160 I think that was so key.

00:23:49.720 That's why we were able to tell you the other side of the story.

00:23:53.340 Well, we covered that, and I think we helped tip the balance in the court of public opinion.

00:23:58.460 Trudeau wanted that trucker convoy to be his January 6th insurrection moment, where he could demonize all his critics as terrorists and violent MAGA supporters, racists, misogynists, transphobes.

00:24:12.440 You heard him.

00:24:13.100 He said it all.

00:24:14.680 But the fact that we were there documenting how it really was, man, he couldn't get away with that.

00:24:19.540 And, of course, Trudeau had a terrible unforced error.

00:24:23.820 He invoked martial law.

00:24:25.280 Now, he might not even call that an error because he's always had an admiration, as he says, for basic dictatorships.

00:24:32.320 Remember this, what he said about China.

00:24:34.400 I'll never forget it.

00:24:35.720 There's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we need to start investing in solar.

00:24:53.740 Yeah, the basic dictatorship lets him make decisions really quickly, like he did once he invoked martial law.

00:25:00.120 Decision, for example, to deploy riot police.

00:25:03.140 A decision to seize the bank accounts of 200 of his political enemies and jail his political opponents, peaceful as they were, like Tamara Leach.

00:25:10.920 Well, the martial law provisions of the Emergencies Act.

00:25:40.580 Carry with them a sort of, I don't know, a second look moment where a judge must inquire into the circumstances giving rise to the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

00:25:52.800 And, by the way, it's not loosey-goosey.

00:25:54.820 It's quite clear.

00:25:56.700 I've shown you these before.

00:25:58.540 It has to either be a grave danger to Canadians or a grave danger to the sovereignty of the country itself, the kind of thing that maybe would happen if there was a, God forbid, a nuclear attack or a genuine terrorist uprising.

00:26:12.180 And even that is not enough because the Emergencies Act said one of those extremely grave things must happen and, not or, and existing laws are not enough to deal with it.

00:26:25.860 Well, for the last two weeks, we have seen that there was no danger to Canadians at all.

00:26:31.500 There was no danger to Canadian sovereignty at all, let alone one that needed the Emergencies Act.

00:26:38.100 And whatever issues there may have been could easily have been resolved with existing laws.

00:26:45.300 And, in fact, that was the testimony of several police departments.

00:26:48.700 What's been so fascinating is that the liberals have obviously been trying to shift the conversation.

00:26:54.100 They're not even trying to justify this on a legal basis.

00:26:59.620 They're now talking about microaggressions and feelings.

00:27:02.900 Perhaps the largest disgrace so far was acting police chief Steve Bell saying, no, he didn't see any assaults, but he saw assaultive behavior.

00:27:12.140 What? What's that?

00:27:13.460 That's not a real thing.

00:27:15.380 I had a low opinion of many of these authoritarian police beforehand, but now that we see them revealed,

00:27:21.480 this is a very interesting inquiry.

00:27:25.020 I think we're learning a lot more than I ever thought we would, and we haven't even got to the key decision makers yet,

00:27:30.600 like Justin Trudeau and other cabinet ministers.

00:27:34.260 Well, joining me, you can see he's on standby.

00:27:36.180 Here is my friend William Diaz Berthium, who has been a real star of our coverage of the Trucker Commission.

00:27:43.780 He is based in Ottawa, our nation's capital.

00:27:46.520 He's made a name for himself, scrumming MPs and cabinet ministers outside parliament.

00:27:51.480 And he is now covering the Trucker Commission every day.

00:27:54.580 William, it's great to see you, and congratulations on your good work.

00:27:57.840 Yeah, thank you, Ezra.

00:27:58.700 Nice to see you again as well.

00:28:00.040 You know, I just want to tell our viewers, if they don't know, besides live streaming the entire proceedings,

00:28:05.940 every night at 6 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. Mountain Time, we have our own live stream where we chew over the events of the day.

00:28:14.240 William is often on there, our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:28:16.900 We have other guests sometimes, for example, Keith Wilson, the lawyer for Tamera Leach and the Truckers.

00:28:22.080 So we've had a really great cover, just like we covered the Trucker Convoy itself so well.

00:28:28.260 And if you're wondering where to find this stuff, it's all on our compilation page called truckercommission.com.

00:28:34.420 All right, enough throat clearing from me.

00:28:35.980 William, let's go straight to you.

00:28:37.400 You're the guy with the news.

00:28:38.620 I'm in your hands.

00:28:39.680 Tell our viewers about some of the more interesting things coming out of the commission, not just today, but yesterday and earlier in the week.

00:28:49.000 Take it away.

00:28:50.280 You're the guy who knows the interesting things.

00:28:52.340 Tell us about it.

00:28:53.860 Well, no, Ezra.

00:28:54.380 I think the main takeaway of the commission is chaos.

00:28:58.520 The Ottawa police, throughout the whole convoy, was chaos.

00:29:02.340 We saw a lack of communication between the different branches within the Ottawa police force.

00:29:08.200 And we saw a lack of communication between the OPP and the OPS.

00:29:12.140 We saw a disregard for important intel that was given by the OPP to the OPS that the OPS decided not to act on.

00:29:19.840 OPS, that's the Ottawa police.

00:29:20.980 Sorry to interrupt.

00:29:21.620 OPS, that's the Ottawa police service.

00:29:23.420 So OPP, that's the Ontario Provincial Police.

00:29:25.860 That's the sort of we don't have that in every province, but Ontario has a provincial police force.

00:29:31.800 OPS is the Ottawa police service.

00:29:33.940 They have some different jurisdictions and different powers, but both of them were on the battle against the truckers.

00:29:39.940 I just want to interrupt to explain what those acronyms meant.

00:29:42.600 Back to you, William.

00:29:43.700 Yeah, sure.

00:29:44.420 No, 100%.

00:29:45.180 OPS is Ottawa police services.

00:29:46.680 OPP, Ontario Provincial Police.

00:29:49.480 Obviously, some important acronyms.

00:29:51.240 But when you're embedded in that, you forget to mention them.

00:29:53.960 So, you know, the OPP knew.

00:29:55.340 They had intel showing that the protesters were here for the long run.

00:29:58.280 They weren't here for just one weekend as the Ottawa police services were trying to say that they were coming for.

00:30:04.920 They were here for the long run.

00:30:06.520 And the Ottawa police service decided to ignore that intel multiple times, which is one of the reasons why this whole situation within the OPS was so chaotic.

00:30:15.660 They decided to ignore important intel.

00:30:17.920 And not only that, the chaos also came from a lack of communication between, actually, an unwillingness to communicate from the federal government, from the political side of things, with the Freedom Convoy organizers.

00:30:35.500 We saw them willing to communicate, but the federal government was unwilling to communicate with them.

00:30:41.820 Steve Bell said that they were irrational people.

00:30:45.200 It might have been Jim Watson, actually.

00:30:46.380 Jim Watson, I believe he said those people were irrational people, unwilling to communicate.

00:30:51.680 And the evidence shows, otherwise, the evidence shows that Keith Wilson had discussions with the city of Ottawa multiple times to try to move the trucks, try to find ways to negotiate deals between the protesters and the city as well.

00:31:05.900 And Tom Morazzo, who's been a consistent guest on our live stream, also said the same thing, that the Freedom Convoy organizers had a willingness to negotiate with the city and with the federal government.

00:31:18.200 So it's a lot of lies, a lot of hearsay.

00:31:20.080 It's a lot of chaos that we see coming from the political branch and the OPS as well.

00:31:25.760 And another thing that was very surprising yesterday, and that's something that really picked my mind a lot, the evidence shows that the truckers had a willingness to engage with the police.

00:31:35.900 The evidence shows that.

00:31:37.040 But yesterday, we saw through an email exchange between people from the OPS and the city or the federal government, I believe it was the people within the OPS and the federal government.

00:31:50.100 We saw them talking about how they saw the protesters and even their editorialized view of the protesters was that they were willing to engage.

00:32:02.520 So not only does the evidence show that the protesters were rational, were willing to negotiate, were here peacefully, but the editorialized version, the version of events from the eyes of the OPP and the parliament, the politics, the government,

00:32:18.020 were also that the protesters were here peacefully and were willing to negotiate.

00:32:23.280 So yesterday was a very revealing day.

00:32:25.200 And if you want me to talk about today, I can also do that later on as well.

00:32:28.220 Sure.

00:32:28.460 I just want to unpack what you're saying, negotiate.

00:32:30.760 Some of our viewers might be saying, negotiate what?

00:32:32.980 Well, it was practical matters like moving the trucks away from residential areas towards the parliament offices, clearing a lane, making sure that there were clear lanes, moving from this area to that area.

00:32:47.020 So they were very flexible.

00:32:48.620 They were very engaging.

00:32:50.420 Keith Wilson, the lawyer I mentioned earlier, he was a point person.

00:32:54.360 And what's fascinating is every single police or political person who's been asked, I mean, listen, you've been covering it closer than me.

00:33:04.320 They've been saying, well, were the truckers negotiating in good faith?

00:33:07.220 Were they keeping their word?

00:33:08.840 And the answer has been yes.

00:33:10.680 So that's not a dangerous violence to citizens.

00:33:14.600 That's not an insurrection against the sovereignty of the country.

00:33:18.020 These are peaceful protesters who, when the city said, hey, can you move away from the apartments and move closer to Ottawa buildings?

00:33:25.280 They said, sure.

00:33:26.700 Hey, can you just make sure we keep the lanes open for emergency vehicles?

00:33:31.760 Absolutely.

00:33:32.200 So that's what they mean by negotiations.

00:33:35.180 And the idea that you needed martial law when there wasn't a grave danger to the country or its sovereignty to begin with.

00:33:44.300 And again, that's another thing we've heard time and again is that regular police tools were enough.

00:33:49.720 And by the way, I don't know if you know this, William, but our current criminal code, going from memory, I think it might be section 129, I'll have to Google it, gives police the power to commandeer tow trucks anyways.

00:34:01.480 But one of the things we've learned is that there were plenty of tow trucks willing to tow the trucks.

00:34:04.800 I mentioned that because that's the only thing I've heard people say, well, we needed to put the whole country under martial law because we needed some tow trucks.

00:34:12.480 Because of tow trucks. 0.64

00:34:13.320 You don't need to put the whole country under martial law for tow trucks.

00:34:16.340 The existing criminal law lets police commandeer them.

00:34:18.680 All right, enough commentary from me.

00:34:21.200 William, why don't you throw to some video clips?

00:34:24.240 Because one of the things I like about how Rebel News is covering the Trucker Commission is we're not just tweeting about it and having the evening digest about it.

00:34:35.460 We're cutting actual raw clips showing testimony.

00:34:39.820 You've been following this more closely than me the past few days.

00:34:42.540 Why don't you introduce a couple of quick clips and throw to them and we'll show our people the clips.

00:34:46.380 Yeah, and just before I do that, I just want to remind everyone, you know, there's so much to unpack for the commission.

00:34:51.180 We cannot do that in a simple ELS show.

00:34:53.580 So if you want to really make sure that you follow everything extremely closely, you can always watch our evening live streams where me and Sheila and an interesting guest and Alexa Lavoie, we also always discuss the events of the day.

00:35:05.920 But if we want to see one clip that came out today, a very powerful clip, it was the cross-examination done by one of the Freedom Convoy lawyers, Bathsheba.

00:35:17.120 I know that's not her last name.

00:35:18.820 That's her first name, yeah.

00:35:20.800 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:21.440 Bathsheba Vandenberg, I think is her name.

00:35:23.440 Yeah, exactly. Bathsheba Vandenberg, she cross-examined Superintendent Bernie from the OPS and she showed a clip that was taken by protesters in February where we see an officer beating down a protester with his rifle.

00:35:39.820 And the only single thing the Superintendent Bernie had to say was that the video was unclear and he wasn't capable of actually, you know, making something out of it.

00:35:48.240 What did you think the officer was doing? Charlene Snow? Did you think he was talking to a protester? No, he was beating him up with his rifle.

00:35:55.980 We can take a look at the clip right now.

00:35:57.480 All right, so do you agree that the OPS officer in this video in the back behind the ranks, the line, is using what is actually the muzzle and not the butt of what looks like a 40 millimeter chemical munition launched to beat a protester with?

00:36:25.120 Not enough for me to see what exactly is going on.

00:36:29.640 But you can see that there is a police officer in the back beating a protester with a rifle.

00:36:35.300 There is not enough for me to see what is actually happening behind bodies.

00:36:40.700 Can we continue playing the video, please?

00:36:44.420 Absolutely shocking.

00:36:45.620 It makes me angry, the fact that the policemen say, oh, I don't see anything.

00:36:52.120 No, I don't see anything.

00:36:53.620 You know, I absolutely believe that that was commonplace.

00:36:57.280 Our own reporter, Alexa Lavoie, was shot in the leg with some riot gun.

00:37:02.620 We heard that police were taking peaceful protesters, not charging them, just taking them in a vehicle, driving them outside the city and dumping them on the side of the road.

00:37:12.820 And by the way, it was minus 20 out there.

00:37:14.560 Now, I want to ask you about the arrests.

00:37:17.000 With regards to the arrests and processing plans and the POU tactical operational plans, there is nothing that states that after police arrested protesters and told them that they were not being charged, that the police were to drive the protesters outside of the city core in the dead of winter, the biggest snowstorm in a while, as you described today,

00:37:36.520 without access to shelter or transportation and telecommunications and leave them in parking lots or other areas, correct?

00:37:46.480 Not the way I would explain it.

00:37:49.720 Are you aware that that happened?

00:37:51.360 The plans that were put in place, which involved the ability to remove protesters who were arrested, detained, to a secondary processing site, there were two that were identified.

00:38:06.280 One was approximately less than 10 minutes away from the arrest zone.

00:38:10.680 The other one was approximately 15 to 20 minutes away from the arrest zone, where there were a full infrastructure of investigators in order to properly process, run, allow phone calls to lawyers, and where they were advised exactly of the next steps of what was going to take place.

00:38:30.840 They were located in close proximity to, and when I say close proximity, maybe 200 meters from public transit, and even restaurants and gas stations, to be able to find their way back to where they need to go.

00:38:48.740 That is infuriating, and I think that the police need to be sued.

00:38:52.720 We are suing the police for their shooting of Alexa.

00:38:56.260 If you want to see the video of that, you can go to standwithalexa.com.

00:39:02.140 These are just outrageous things.

00:39:03.880 I have to say, William, I think this Trucker Commission of Inquiring is more revealing and more interesting than I thought it would be.

00:39:12.040 I thought that the government would be commandeering it more than they are.

00:39:17.160 I mean, listen, the government certainly has their friendly witnesses there, but I think that they're useless because what can they say?

00:39:24.520 There is no legal, factual case for martial law.

00:39:28.760 So you hear policemen muttering about microaggressions.

00:39:32.620 It's quite revealing.

00:39:35.380 Yeah, well, you know, the commission is an independent commission.

00:39:38.840 It is not related to the government whatsoever.

00:39:41.340 We heard that the judge might have been a Trudeau-appointed judge.

00:39:44.300 The commission is still independent.

00:39:45.560 I have faith in the judge that he's going to, the commissioner, who is also a judge.

00:39:49.160 That's why I call him a judge.

00:39:50.140 I have faith in the commission that he's going to do the right thing.

00:39:53.380 We see him engage with the witnesses.

00:39:55.000 So I do have faith in the commission, but I think the commission is extremely revealing.

00:39:58.120 As you said, I 100% agree.

00:40:00.100 And I think it also goes to public opinion.

00:40:03.280 You know, the people that are watching this, that heard the lies from the police, that heard the lies from mainstream media from the beginning, always believed those lies.

00:40:10.060 But now we are seeing those lies being dismantled in front of a commissioner in real time.

00:40:16.620 And that's what's important about the commission.

00:40:18.380 And I think there will be impacts inside Parliament, inside House of Commons, before we have to table the budget once the commission is ended.

00:40:27.020 So I do have faith in the commission.

00:40:28.680 Well, that's very exciting.

00:40:29.620 Leave us with one more clip.

00:40:31.180 I know that our Rebel News team, and you're there in, by the way, people may be wondering, where is William right now?

00:40:38.320 That is the Airbnb that we rented for a month and a half.

00:40:41.840 It's very close to the commission inquiry.

00:40:44.760 It's so close, it's faster to walk than to call a cab and take it.

00:40:48.780 Like I was there in the early days.

00:40:52.420 I'm going to try and get back out there.

00:40:54.220 It's fun.

00:40:55.000 We've got a team there.

00:40:55.760 We've got this little homemade studio in the kitchen, as you can see, and we have guests coming by.

00:41:00.720 That's where we do our live stream.

00:41:02.080 But it's our base of operations.

00:41:04.540 It's not cheap booking an Airbnb that big.

00:41:07.160 It's got four bedrooms, so our Rebel people can sleep there. 1.00

00:41:10.120 I should tell you that it costs about $15,000 to rent that thing.

00:41:14.460 And people might be saying, that's shocking.

00:41:15.720 That's crazy.

00:41:16.200 Well, it's cheaper than getting a bunch of hotel rooms.

00:41:18.440 And we had the place to ourselves so we can use the internet to have a sort of homemade studio.

00:41:22.960 And it's private and it's quiet.

00:41:23.980 But I think it really is working well.

00:41:27.100 I'm proud of our team.

00:41:27.880 William, you're really doing a great job.

00:41:30.240 And I know Sheila's covering well.

00:41:31.640 And Alexa's with you today.

00:41:32.920 And Efron and Kian Simone.

00:41:35.340 And I think Sid was out there.

00:41:36.380 So we've got a lot of behind the scenes folks.

00:41:38.120 I know I'm missing a few.

00:41:39.460 Forgive me.

00:41:39.740 We're cycling through, I think, 13 or 15 Rebel News reporters over the course of the month and a half.

00:41:45.620 So we really are trying to cover it as intensively as we covered the convoy itself back in January or February.

00:41:54.180 Leave us with one more clip.

00:41:56.540 It doesn't have to be today or yesterday.

00:41:59.040 Is there one clip that you thought was really revealing or maybe a police officer made an admission that was surprising in a good way?

00:42:09.980 Or was there a politician who was caught in a lie?

00:42:13.640 Or was there just a wonderful moment with a lawyer just showing the truth?

00:42:19.480 Throw it a one last clip that you think our viewers will get a kick out of.

00:42:23.100 You know, I'll leave you with one clip and one name.

00:42:26.180 Brendan Miller, lawyer for the Freedom Convoy.

00:42:29.840 Yesterday, Brendan Miller spoke with, I believe it was the OPP's Marcel Baudin.

00:42:35.660 And it was something very shocking that we heard.

00:42:38.840 The Parliament of Canada, Trudeau's cabinet, received a plan from the OPP to end the protest or to handle the protest.

00:42:47.680 You know, peacefully, Marcel Baudin submitted a peaceful plan to negotiate with the protesters.

00:42:54.700 Trudeau received it in his cabinet meeting.

00:42:56.940 They read the plan.

00:42:58.560 A few minutes later, they invoked the Emergencies Act.

00:43:01.140 Let's take a look at that.

00:43:01.900 I understand this is an email from the Deputy Minister of Public Safety, Rob Stewart, to you, right?

00:43:09.760 Yes.

00:43:10.620 Okay.

00:43:11.160 And in the third sentence on the top paragraph, it says,

00:43:15.180 we have a big meeting this afternoon.

00:43:17.360 Well, this will be discussed.

00:43:18.480 So I really need your input.

00:43:20.520 Right?

00:43:21.420 Yes.

00:43:21.660 All right.

00:43:22.540 Did you know that that meeting was at 3.30 p.m. and that it was with cabinet and it was the incident response group of the political executive meeting and that your proposal was provided to them?

00:43:36.840 No.

00:43:37.600 Okay.

00:43:38.160 It was.

00:43:39.120 I can tell you that.

00:43:40.860 And then they invoked the Emergencies Act.

00:43:42.840 Well, I mean, absolute proof that the Emergencies Act had no legal or factual basis.

00:43:51.880 It was all a tactic by Trudeau.

00:43:55.060 Outrageous.

00:43:56.020 That Brendan Miller has been a real star.

00:43:58.660 He's so good.

00:43:59.680 He's with the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, representing the truckers.

00:44:04.800 Justice Center.

00:44:05.720 By the way, the Democracy Fund has a lawyer there, too, Alan Hauner.

00:44:08.580 But I have to tip my hat to the JCCF, who have so many lawyers, and they're so well-prepared.

00:44:15.460 They've deeply immersed themselves in this, and it's just really a pleasure to see.

00:44:20.820 Well, William, you're doing great, too.

00:44:22.500 And congrats to the whole team.

00:44:23.580 Please give my thanks to them.

00:44:25.060 And keep it up, my friend.

00:44:27.320 Thank you.

00:44:28.680 All right.

00:44:29.200 William Diaz Berthiome is there every day.

00:44:32.960 He lives in Ottawa, so he's not staying at the Airbnb, but our out-of-towners are.

00:44:37.180 You can follow the proceedings at truckercommission.com.

00:44:42.940 You can follow them throughout the day.

00:44:44.340 We have the live stream, the actual feed from the hearing itself.

00:44:48.300 Sheila Gunn-Reed and others are live tweeting, and we compile those.

00:44:51.720 We make little short video clips if we think there's something in particular that's interesting.

00:44:56.560 And every night at 6 p.m., we have a recap that we call our own live stream.

00:45:00.320 So please go to truckercommission.com.

00:45:03.060 Stay with us.

00:45:03.960 More ahead.

00:45:04.360 Thank you.

00:45:07.180 Hey, welcome back.

00:45:10.960 Your letters to me.

00:45:11.860 Real Willie C says, I guess I'm a Russian agent because I don't trust Trudeau either.

00:45:16.920 That's so crazy.

00:45:18.340 I mean, if there was someone who said, I support Putin, I support Russia, I support the invasion 0.98

00:45:23.940 of Ukraine.

00:45:24.460 Okay, then you can probably say, well, maybe he's a propagandist or a Putin agent.

00:45:28.020 But I don't think there's a lot of people in Canada who say that.

00:45:32.700 So this disinformations are literally changed how it would be like setting his metal detector

00:45:39.960 to detect something other than metal.

00:45:41.860 If you undermine trust in Trudeau, you're a Russian agent.

00:45:46.080 No, you're not, mate.

00:45:47.200 You're one of 68% of Canadians who are sort of sick of the lab. 0.99

00:45:50.340 That's not even science.

00:45:51.660 It was not a peer-reviewed study.

00:45:54.480 Wisconsin Freedom Fighters said, wait, a politician lied.

00:45:57.600 Breaking news.

00:45:58.240 Laugh out loud.

00:45:58.740 Keep up the good work.

00:45:59.640 My northern neighbors.

00:46:00.740 Rebel News is one of the most reliable and trustworthy media outlets, period.

00:46:03.980 Well, thank you for that.

00:46:04.940 We don't always get it 100% right.

00:46:07.260 No one does.

00:46:08.380 But we try to get it right.

00:46:10.140 We reach out to the other side.

00:46:11.240 And when we get it wrong, we admit it.

00:46:14.140 Sleeping Giant Sister says, Rebel News is the only news source I know that regularly applies

00:46:18.080 for freedom of information requests.

00:46:20.020 Rebel News has actively influenced changes to our government.

00:46:22.980 No one else has exposed government corruption in Canada and other countries around the world.

00:46:26.100 Thank you, Ezra, and all the good people who work for Rebel News.

00:46:28.480 I appreciate that.

00:46:29.600 There are other newspapers who do it.

00:46:31.160 I won't pretend we're the only ones.

00:46:32.240 But we have a full-time fella who does it. 1.00

00:46:34.780 And Sheila and so many of our other reporters, like, every week we've got another access to

00:46:39.200 information document.

00:46:40.120 It's a very useful tool.

00:46:42.840 JJNS says, since you're not saying what Rebel is suing for, I'll assume it's for small dollars

00:46:47.620 or just a retraction.

00:46:48.540 In my opinion, it needs to be in the millions and announce the dollar amount publicly so various

00:46:53.080 news organizations around the world will pick up the story.

00:46:55.860 More embarrassment for Trudeau is the best way to hit back with a vengeance.

00:46:58.940 Well, you can see the lawsuit for yourself at SaveRebelNews.com.

00:47:04.780 Feel free to click on over there, and the PDF document should be there.

00:47:08.520 I honestly can't remember the exact dollar amount, so forgive me.

00:47:13.480 I think you just have to stop a government-funded smear merchant who claims to be fighting

00:47:20.260 disinformation but is actually spreading it.

00:47:22.160 I just don't think you can allow someone saying you are a Russian agent, even when his own

00:47:27.340 study doesn't prove it.

00:47:28.880 That's what's so crazy.

00:47:29.760 I showed you his top 10 list of enemies.

00:47:32.680 Rebel News is not on there.

00:47:34.480 I mean, listen, you watch our show every day.

00:47:36.520 Not every day, but you watch it.

00:47:39.400 I mentioned Ukraine and Russia, but not a lot.

00:47:42.940 We're focused on other things.

00:47:44.420 It's crazy to say Rebel News is a Russian agent.

00:47:47.500 It just doesn't make any sense.

00:47:48.900 By their own study, it's not true.

00:47:50.540 You can read the whole lawsuit at SaveRebelNews.com.

00:47:55.020 All right, that's our show for today.

00:47:56.520 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:48:00.320 good night.

00:48:01.300 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:48:02.380 Angelica Toy for Rebel News in Ottawa.

00:48:04.560 Today marks the ninth day of the testimony in the Public Order Emergencies Commission.

00:48:09.140 The inquiry is aimed to examine whether the government was justified in invoking the Emergencies

00:48:13.760 Act to end the Ottawa Freedom Convoy.

00:48:16.180 The protest convoy converged on Ottawa at the end of January from across the country.

00:48:20.540 To demonstrate against COVID restrictions until nearly four weeks later, the Trudeau Liberals

00:48:25.520 used the counterterrorism law to give police extraordinary powers of search, seizure, and

00:48:31.500 arrest normally used for wartime events.

00:48:34.380 Officer Marcel Bowden on the Ontario Provincial Police, an inspector and head of the police

00:48:38.700 liaison team, was on the ground in the nation's capital during the convoy.

00:48:43.080 Bowden, however, dodged questions about if he thought the invocation of the Emergencies

00:48:47.240 Act damaged ongoing negotiations to end the so-called convoy occupation.

00:48:52.400 You were part of the team that cleared up protest sites during the negotiation.

00:48:56.380 Do you think that the actions of the federal government invoking the Emergencies Act ended

00:49:01.160 that ability?

00:49:03.460 Once again, you were part of a team that cleared up protest sites through negotiation.

00:49:08.060 Do you think that the actions of the federal government invoking the Emergencies Act ended

00:49:11.820 that ability?

00:49:12.740 I know there's an OPP media person that you could probably reach out to if you reach out

00:49:17.720 to Bill Dixon.

00:49:18.740 Okay, thank you.

00:49:20.300 Bowden had been part of the team that successfully cleared out protest sites in the lead-up to

00:49:25.280 use the Emergencies Act.

00:49:27.060 I understand this is an email from the Deputy Minister of Public Safety, Rob Stewart, to

00:49:32.460 you, right?

00:49:33.420 Yes.

00:49:34.320 Okay, and in the third sentence on the top paragraph, it says, we have a big meeting this afternoon.

00:49:41.040 Well, this will be discussed, so I really need your input, right?

00:49:45.080 Yes.

00:49:45.340 All right, did you know that that meeting was at 3.30 p.m. and that it was with Cabinet

00:49:52.220 and it was the incident response group of the political executive meeting and that your

00:49:58.180 proposal was provided to them?

00:50:00.520 No.

00:50:01.320 Okay, it was.

00:50:02.800 I can tell you that.

00:50:04.540 And then they invoked the Emergencies Act.

00:50:09.240 Thank you.

00:50:12.600 Okay, thank you.

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Rebel News Podcast - October 26, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ If one politician can order the prosecution of pastors and small businessmen, can another politician order those prosecutions to stop？

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