Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ I’m learning more about the Trudeau government’s plans to licence journalism — it’s not good

00:00:00.700 Hello, my friends. I'm not the only one who's worried about Justin Trudeau's plan to license

00:00:04.980 news journalism. Jesse Brown of the left-wing podcast Canada Land is too, and he had a string

00:00:11.840 of arguments today that I thought were interesting enough. I'm going to go through them with

00:00:14.880 you. The fact that he's a leftist and is the kind of guy who would naturally, I think,

00:00:20.580 like Trudeau, he's a woke virtue signaller, but he's opposed to this journalism licensing,

00:00:26.440 I think, makes his points all the stronger. So that's today's show. Stay with us for that,

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00:01:13.180 into today, we don't take any government money. Just go to rebelnewsplus.com. All right,

00:01:18.360 here's today's podcast. Tonight, I'm learning more about the Trudeau government's plans to license

00:01:39.920 journalism. It's not good. It's April 11th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:44.580 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:50.540 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:54.580 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:59.460 right to do so.

00:02:06.180 Most of the time, I disagree with a left-wing website called Canada Land. They can be deceptive

00:02:12.660 and unethical, and once their boss, Jesse Brown, falsely defamed one of our writers, and we're

00:02:18.320 still pursuing them for that. I went on their show about a decade ago. As a guest, it was

00:02:22.840 deceptively edited. The only time that's ever happened to me in my life, actually. There are

00:02:28.420 problems over at Canada Land that go to honesty and character, not just ideology. But even a stop

00:02:34.840 clock is right twice a day. And Jesse Brown, the boss over there, well, his review of Justin Trudeau's

00:02:41.020 plans to license journalism is spot on. I should say that Canada Land and Jesse Brown, despite my

00:02:48.280 ideological differences with them, are one of the very few news outlets in Canada that don't take

00:02:53.700 government money. Their chief medium is podcasting, and they do pretty well at it. They're often in the

00:03:00.300 top 10 most popular podcasts in Canada. Again, not my cup of tea, but they obviously have some talent.

00:03:07.420 But they're worried about this journalism licensing business, the stuff we're suing the government

00:03:12.360 over. You'll remember, we applied for this status as licensed to have the government designation

00:03:17.780 QCJO, Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization, and we were rejected for the most absurd reasons. I

00:03:24.880 mean, I just still can't even get over this. They claim that only 1% of what we do is news.

00:03:32.500 I'm serious. You know, I checked, and we've published almost exactly 30,000 individual

00:03:37.200 news stories since we were born seven years ago. I think I gave you a slightly different estimate last

00:03:42.280 week. But now I have the exact number. I had our team pull some stats. We have published 29,801

00:03:49.500 items we could call news as opposed to like a signup page or a merchandise page on the website. That's

00:03:56.080 an average of more than 10 stories a day, seven days a week for seven years. And that's just on

00:04:02.120 the website. It doesn't count all of our social media platforms like Twitter or Facebook or whatever.

00:04:06.660 The idea that only 1% of that or 298 items over the course of our entire life are news is absurd and

00:04:16.060 embarrassing to the government. I'm just, for example, we have 144 stories that we call exclusives,

00:04:23.020 big scoops, usually through access to information requests or leaked info or tips. You know, just FYI,

00:04:28.680 every morning at 7.30 a.m. Eastern time, our journalists receive an email briefing note from

00:04:33.980 our researcher pointing out breaking news and events of the day just to get their noggins jogging.

00:04:38.920 Then at 10 a.m. we have a news meeting where each of the reporters makes their pitch to our

00:04:43.640 managing editor, Sheila. At 5 p.m. we have a follow-up news meeting to ensure things are being

00:04:49.000 published in a timely manner. Like I say, more than 10 news stories a day, every day of the year on

00:04:54.580 average, actually 82 a week to be precise. And the government is saying that we don't even publish

00:05:00.600 one single news story a week. I'm sorry, that's just weird. We're suing, obviously. If you missed

00:05:07.160 my details on that, please go read our lawsuit at wearesuingtrudeau.com. But back to Canada

00:05:13.240 Landed and their editor, Jesse Brown. He made a series of tweets today about this very issue,

00:05:18.640 and I'd like to read them to you, which I normally wouldn't do, but he's spot on.

00:05:22.380 And I think it's valuable that he's a leftist. He's woke. He's all the things you're supposed to be

00:05:27.280 to get in good with Trudeau, except he won't bend the knee and merge with the government. So far,

00:05:32.140 at least in his podcast today and in his tweets today, he intimated that maybe to survive he has

00:05:38.320 to join them. He hasn't yet. Here, let me read it. It's a thread of about a dozen tweets, but I think

00:05:44.060 they're good. He says, this is what is poorly understood due to secrecy. The media bailout and

00:05:51.460 the Online News Act puts all legacy news in Canada under government-dependent support. TV, radio,

00:05:57.640 newspapers, all of it. Okay, just stop right there. Any government that uses the phrase News Act,

00:06:04.760 like a news law, is all you need to know about them. There is no room for the government in

00:06:09.760 regulating news. That's censorship by definition from the beginning. You know, it reminds me,

00:06:16.200 you might recall that Bible Bill Eberhardt, the social credit premier of Alberta in the dirty 30s,

00:06:21.140 he brought in a law called the Accurate News and Information Act. That was 80 plus years ago. It was

00:06:27.240 literally designed to fight fake news. It required any newspaper of the day to run a government

00:06:32.260 rebuttal next to any story they said was fake. Now, that law was struck down by the Supreme Court

00:06:37.900 of Canada and the Edmonton Journal, who fought against it, they actually won a special Pulitzer

00:06:42.040 Prize for fighting it. Today, the Edmonton Journal has signed up for the Online News Act. If only Bill

00:06:49.920 Eberhardt knew that all he had to do was bribe the Edmonton Journal with a carrot, not hit them

00:06:54.660 with a stick. I'll keep reading Jesse Brown's post. His next one, he says, combination of government

00:07:00.980 money plus Facebook money plus Google money will fund all legacy news production in Canada.

00:07:06.720 In over 100 cases, it already does. It's a good point. Google and Facebook are already the largest

00:07:11.420 spenders of lobbying money in America. I'm sure it's the same in Canada. They have huge interests.

00:07:17.060 Really, they're as large as countries, profitable countries. Just like Trudeau,

00:07:21.260 they know the best way to get good press is just to buy it. And if Trudeau forces them to give money

00:07:27.080 to journalists, those journalists, I understand, have to sign special contracts or even, you know,

00:07:32.460 even if they just know that the money is coming from Google and Facebook, I mean, you don't think

00:07:36.500 they're going to pull their punches in their coverage of Facebook and Google, of course,

00:07:40.760 as in they'll never criticize them again.

00:07:42.520 Hmm. What percentage of news costs are subsidized? It's a secret, but based on info

00:07:49.140 from Australia, whose laws we based our policy on, 30% of news costs at one org are now covered

00:07:54.620 by big tech. Imagine that secret funding from Google and Facebook at the direction of Justin

00:08:00.120 Trudeau. That's what's in the Online News Act. Imagine a journalist who would sign a non-disclosure

00:08:05.380 agreement with the most powerful and rich companies in the world. That person is no longer a journalist,

00:08:10.800 is he? How can you be? You're keeping secrets, not telling them now. Add to that the 25% government

00:08:17.300 wage subsidy, and it's reasonable to estimate that more than 50% of Canadian editorial expenses

00:08:22.360 will be paid by the government big tech combo. It's a good point. You've got so many layers of

00:08:27.300 grift here. You know, sometimes people make fun of me because so often I'm asking our viewers to chip

00:08:32.260 in to pay for this or that thing at Rebel News. And it's true, and it's annoying, and I'm sorry for

00:08:37.480 that. But it's also 100% voluntary. No one has to give us a dime. And frankly, 99% of our viewers

00:08:43.780 don't. But if you get money extracted from Canadians by Trudeau for you, you know, we don't do that.

00:08:52.000 We don't take forced money. We don't take subsidies. We don't take big grants. And now,

00:08:57.080 shake down money from big tech too? They really are state broadcasters, all of them now, aren't they?

00:09:01.380 Here's what Jesse Brown says next. To think that this won't change how the media covers the government

00:09:06.880 and Facebook and Google is a fantasy. It already has. To think that this won't hurt public trust in

00:09:11.840 journalism is to ignore both data and what we hear from newsreaders every day. He's right on that.

00:09:16.700 It's a great point. There are a whole raft of reasons why no one trusts the media anymore.

00:09:20.800 Their conduct during the pandemic is a big part of it. But everyone can tell the media is no longer

00:09:25.560 a watchdog. They're a lapdog. They're in on it. Here's an idea I didn't think of myself, 0.99

00:09:30.660 Jesse Brown says. As Dr. OW argued on Canada Land years ago, this doesn't just lock in legacy news

00:09:38.460 orgs at the expense of startups. It also locks in the power of Google and Facebook, putting a critical

00:09:43.540 part of our democracy on their permanent payroll. Exactly. You're making Google and Facebook parts

00:09:49.920 of our government, parts of our media industry. Who died and appointed them God? If Google and Facebook

00:09:56.820 fall or are disrupted, the news business loses its sugar daddy. Yeah. And may we pray for that

00:10:02.420 disruption of those companies to come. Brown continues, how does Google determine how much

00:10:08.200 to pay news orgs? As Google's VP of news, Richard Gingra reveals here, it involves the number of

00:10:14.540 articles a news org publishes. The incentive is to pump out content. He's referring to Google VP of

00:10:21.480 news, Richard Gingra. He made those remarks at a Liberal Party conference hosted by a lobby group

00:10:26.460 called Canada 2020. See, Google is deeply involved with this and with the Liberal Party, and you better

00:10:31.960 believe that politics comes up all the time. They hire directly from the government. Here's Gingra saying

00:10:37.520 they're taking steps to insulate the politics of it. Yeah, sure they are. Sure they are. I mean,

00:10:43.140 we have, for instance, expressed in our conversations with the government that another,

00:10:47.900 you could take an entirely different approach, for instance, and say, we're going to create a fund

00:10:52.580 that platforms contribute to, and that fund is distributed by formula. You know, that could be a

00:10:59.800 very effective way that would eliminate the, either the potential for political influence or the

00:11:05.920 suspicion that somehow the platforms are inappropriately imbalancing the voices in the news ecosystem.

00:11:13.580 All those secret negotiations, all those non-disclosure contracts, all that

00:11:19.520 secrecy for the news business, for the journalism license business.

00:11:25.760 Just two more quotes from Jesse Brown. Digital news orgs are being cut in on the deal,

00:11:31.100 and most will be happy to get free money, even if it's dimes to the dollar of what their

00:11:34.740 legacy competitors get. Of course, digital orgs don't have to participate, but passing costs them more

00:11:40.400 than just money. That's such a good point. You know, most of the money is being hoovered up by

00:11:44.260 the dying dinosaurs, like the Globe and Mail and the Toronto Star. The Globe is owned by Canada's

00:11:49.300 richest family, oligarchs called the Thompsons. So, of course, they need more of your tax dollars

00:11:54.780 to run the Globe. I mean, it's for innovation, right? I'll skip to the end.

00:12:00.560 Taken as a whole, the level of market interference has expanded and expanded to the point where small

00:12:05.980 independent news organizations face an existential crisis. This may mean join or die. That includes

00:12:11.680 Canada land. Now, maybe he's just emoting out loud, or maybe he's getting his viewers ready

00:12:17.740 for him to abandon his principles. He wouldn't be the first. And I get it. Listen to him argue with

00:12:23.160 Colette Brin. That's the government appointee who wrote the rejection letter to us, the woman who

00:12:28.960 blacklisted Rebel News. Jesse Brown is complaining to her that the Globe and Mail, owned by Canada's richest

00:12:34.920 family, just came and hired away two of his producers, presumably at a big increase in salary,

00:12:40.580 so that the Globe and Mail could make their own podcast to challenge Canada lands. How could he

00:12:45.520 possibly compete if half the Globe and Mail's costs are now borne by the taxpayer? I mean, it was bad

00:12:50.560 enough when he just had to compete against Canada's richest family. But now he also is fighting against

00:12:56.220 a competitor with free government money or Facebook, Google money coming to pillage his staff. Take a

00:13:01.440 listen. In March 2020, the Toronto Star launched a daily podcast about Canadian news. In May 2021,

00:13:09.860 the Globe and Mail launched a daily podcast about Canadian news. How do I know that they were trying

00:13:15.300 to make their own version of Canada land? Because they hired away two of Canada land's producers to

00:13:21.000 make it. So, but, but Canada land is kind of a niche. I know you hate that, but, but do you really

00:13:28.020 have direct competitors? Are you kidding me? The Globe and Mail hired away our staffers. Is the Globe

00:13:35.180 and Mail your competitor? Of course they are. Oh, and in terms of, in terms of your workforce.

00:13:40.640 Do you want, there are a competitor in terms of, uh. Not in terms of audience. Oh, of course they are.

00:13:46.860 Of course, they are a competitor in terms of stories. We're competing with them to get scoops.

00:13:50.440 They are a competitor in terms of news subscriptions. People aren't going to get an infinite number of

00:13:55.120 subscriptions. They are a competitor in terms of talent. They hire away our people to launch podcasts

00:14:01.300 that cover Canadian news, right? I actually worked with Kasia. She's amazing. She's wonderful. God bless

00:14:07.700 them. Good luck to her. Uh, but that is a newspaper that is owned by the richest family in Canada. 0.81

00:14:13.340 And I'll tell you something, though podcast companies are excluded from QCJO status and from the subsidy,

00:14:19.240 I suspect that the way it's set up, podcast workers at newspapers are getting their salaries subsidized.

00:14:27.680 So explain that one to me, how that's possible. Oh, I'm not going to explain that. I mean, that's way beyond

00:14:33.380 my, my, my job description. But you could see that that's egregious. I am taking note of all of this.

00:14:39.300 I am taking note of all of this. And I, you know, it's a very, it's a broad issue, right? And with all,

00:14:45.480 and it's, it's all kinds of complexities. I mean, we're, you know, we're applying this specific

00:14:50.980 thing and I understand it could have impacts on other aspects of the industry.

00:14:58.140 I was surprised by how surprised she seemed to learn that the plan that she's a part of to help

00:15:02.900 some news companies actually hurt other news companies. I mean, what did they expect would

00:15:09.360 happen? So, yeah, it's interesting to hear the same complaints as we have, but from the left,

00:15:16.480 it's shocking to see the silence of the other 1500 media companies who are taking the payout really

00:15:23.000 1500. We know that because that's how many companies were on the list that took a $61 million

00:15:30.580 emergency pre-election bribe from Trudeau last fall. Do you remember that? What, you didn't hear

00:15:35.980 about that? Of course you didn't because those companies took the bribe. Why would they tell you

00:15:42.040 about the bribe? That bribe story was published only by two media companies, Rebel News and Canada

00:15:46.480 Land. Now, I don't know if Jesse Brown is going to collapse and take the government money,

00:15:51.340 the Facebook money. I don't know, but, but we've got a better plan. I think take Trudeau to court and

00:15:56.340 fight. I don't know if it's a better plan, but it's our plan. Go to, we are suing, Trudeau.com.

00:16:03.100 All right, more ahead.

00:16:20.100 Vancouver!

00:16:24.500 Make some noise!

00:16:27.660 Let him hear you!

00:16:29.220 Let him hear you!

00:16:33.100 How are we doing in A Vancouver? You feeling free?

00:16:42.860 Let's make some noise for the person that brought us here, Bill Gates!

00:16:50.780 Right?

00:16:58.220 Exactly, okay.

00:16:59.380 If any of you guys been to any of the freedom rallies over the years, well, last two years,

00:17:04.180 you guys know what we do here. My job is to bore you to death. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I kid.

00:17:11.380 So what we're going to do is we're going to yell a couple of things and I'm going to hand the mic off

00:17:15.280 to an excellent singer. Guys, freedom is essential!

00:17:19.640 freedom is essential! Rights are essential! Rights are essential! Rights are essential!

00:17:32.200 Guys, what do we want? Freedom! When do we want it? Now! What do we want? Freedom! When do we want it? Now! When? Now! Again! Now! One more time from here! Now! Make some noise!

00:17:47.640 Make some noise!

00:17:49.640 Make some noise!

00:17:55.640 Thank you!

00:17:57.640 Well, that was the scene yesterday in Vancouver, British Columbia, where Bill Gates, who came to world prominence for his role as the boss of Microsoft, but has since transformed into a kind of schleppy supervillain.

00:18:14.640 You know, he has that aw shucks approach to him, but he comes up with a series of bizarre plans, whether it's to release billions of tons of dust into the atmosphere to block out the sun or his obsession with viruses and vaccines, including a smallpox vaccine. Just a little bit crazy on that one. Remember when he said this?

00:18:42.640 Yes!

00:18:44.640 And so I'm hoping in five years I can write a book called, you know, we are ready for the next pandemic, but it'll take tens of billions in R&D that the US and the UK will be part of that. It'll take probably about a billion a year for a pandemic task force at the WHO level, which is doing the surveillance and actually doing what I call germ games, where you practice.

00:19:06.640 You say, OK, what if a bioterrorist brought smallpox to 10 airports? You know, how would the world respond to that? 0.76

00:19:16.640 You know, that there's NAFTA really caused epidemics and bioterrorism caused epidemics that could even be way worse than what we experience today.

00:19:26.640 His obsession with global warming, even though he jets around private.

00:19:30.640 I think, of course, the worst thing about Bill Gates by far, so bad that even his wife divorced him over it, his wife who shares many of his other ideological beliefs, was his friendship with the pedophile and child pimp Jeffrey Epstein.

00:19:44.640 Jeffrey Epstein, a friendship that persisted long after the facts about Epstein were known.

00:19:49.640 Here's, of course, Melinda Gates saying that that was why they broke up. 1.00

00:19:54.640 You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not that that was very upsetting to you.

00:20:04.640 Did that play a role in the in the divorce at all in this process?

00:20:08.640 Yeah. As I said, it's not one thing. It was many things.

00:20:12.640 But I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein. No.

00:20:17.640 Mm hmm. And you made that clear to him.

00:20:20.640 I made that clear to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time.

00:20:25.640 Did you?

00:20:26.640 Yes, because I wanted to see who this man was.

00:20:28.640 And I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door.

00:20:33.640 He was abhorrent. He was evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards. 0.78

00:20:39.640 So, you know, my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt.

00:20:44.640 And here I'm an older woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It's awful.

00:20:48.640 You felt that the moment you walked in. I didn't realize that.

00:20:50.640 He was awful.

00:20:51.640 Yeah. And you shared that with Bill and he still continued to spend time with him?

00:20:56.640 Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's relationship there was, those are for Bill to answer.

00:21:02.640 OK.

00:21:03.640 But I made it very clear how I felt about him.

00:21:05.640 Mm hmm. It's shocking to me that such a man would still find an audience.

00:21:08.640 But of course, money buys you a lot of things.

00:21:10.640 As you may know, Bill Gates has spent hundreds of millions of dollars that we know about paying subsidies or gifts to various media companies,

00:21:19.640 which is probably why he's never grilled on things.

00:21:22.640 He was in Vancouver to deliver a talk at a TED talk, which is sort of a 15 minute deep thoughts speech.

00:21:30.640 Our friend NBC bureau chief Drea Humphrey was outside.

00:21:34.640 She joins us now via Skype.

00:21:36.640 Drea, great to see you again.

00:21:37.640 I always thought Bill Gates was sort of a harmless, nerdy guy and that he just wanted to do good.

00:21:44.640 He was a bit of a do gooder.

00:21:46.640 That naive belief was shaken out of me by watching him over the last two years.

00:21:51.640 What was he in Vancouver to talk about?

00:21:54.640 Well, first of all, they're calling it a TED talk on a new era.

00:22:00.640 And so anything for what they believe the future holds, including discussions on new developments with A.I.

00:22:08.640 and the direction where they think we're headed, really.

00:22:12.640 So the kind of thing that a super villain would care about.

00:22:15.640 I mean, you know, you and I are worried about things like, oh, my gosh, did it really cost 130 bucks to fill up the gas tank?

00:22:22.640 Or, you know, what about our civil liberties?

00:22:25.640 We can't fly.

00:22:26.640 At least I can't fly because I'm not jabbed.

00:22:28.640 Bill Gates doesn't worry about that.

00:22:29.640 He flies private.

00:22:30.640 He doesn't think about little things.

00:22:31.640 He thinks about big things like, you know, telling people what to do, how to think.

00:22:36.640 So it sounds like a perfect fit for him.

00:22:39.640 A lot of folks were gathered outside.

00:22:42.640 I find that impressive.

00:22:43.640 What was the main theme of the protest?

00:22:46.640 Well, the main theme of the protest, if I had to sum it up, I would call it an anti globalism protest.

00:22:53.640 So it seems that Bill Gates is a figurehead sort of for that sort of energy.

00:22:59.640 And, you know, just touching on the things that Bill Gates doesn't have to worry about the people who attended the conference, which, by the way, is still happening.

00:23:06.640 It's it's between the 10th to the 14th had paid $5,000 to be there.

00:23:13.640 So they a lot of them feel that the whole narrative with COVID-19 with the last two years, a lot of it went down the way it did because of the things that Bill Gates was saying early on in 2020 and how much coverage he got there.

00:23:28.640 If you recall, one of the things that he said is that we're not really going to get through this unless we have a vaccine and a digital certificate.

00:23:38.640 Well, before we talked about vaccine passports specifically.

00:23:43.640 So you also mentioned thinking that Bill Gates is sort of some sort of computer nerd.

00:23:50.640 There was a sign there that made me chuckle and it said, please, God, make Bill Gates a computer nerd again.

00:23:57.180 So that was kind of a funny one there, too.

00:23:59.260 But he also got into some trouble with sort of monopolizing the computer industry back in the day.

00:24:05.380 And I think some people think he's trying to monopolize the world now.

00:24:09.380 I think that's true.

00:24:10.960 I mean, he does strange things like he's buying up more private farmland in America than any other landowner.

00:24:16.700 And at the same time, he's promoting eating synthetic meat.

00:24:22.440 And even I'm going to show you something and look away those with a without a strong stomach. 0.68

00:24:28.920 I just gag even thinking about this.

00:24:31.260 He's he's done promotions for drinking reclaimed sewage water.

00:24:35.640 Take a look at this. 0.68

00:24:36.640 It's gross.

00:24:46.640 Over two and a half billion people have no access to safe sanitation.

00:24:51.260 We asked brilliant engineers to help us solve this problem.

00:24:54.260 And one of those engineers actually has proposed a solution where the waste is valuable.

00:24:59.260 The omniprocessor turns sewer sludge, which is kind of nasty, into clean drinking water, electricity,

00:25:07.640 and ash that is pathogen free.

00:25:10.480 This is where the sludge enters the machine.

00:25:12.580 It goes up this conveyor belt, is fed into these large tubes we call the dryer.

00:25:17.120 That's where we boil the sludge. 1.00

00:25:19.540 And in the boiling process, we separate the water vapor from the solids.

00:25:24.840 The solids are now dry, and we can feed them into the fire.

00:25:27.640 Once we have this very hot fire, we can make high pressure, high temperature steam.

00:25:33.020 And we take that steam, and we send it to a steam engine.

00:25:36.020 And the steam engine drives a generator that makes electricity that we use for the processor,

00:25:41.360 and also excess electricity that can be delivered back to the community.

00:25:44.820 The water vapor that's created in the boiling process is run through a cleaning system,

00:25:50.020 until we have the cleanest, purest water you can possibly imagine.

00:25:55.400 The sanitation system, as we know it in the developed world, cannot work in developing countries.

00:26:01.940 So what we need in developing countries is a very simple system.

00:26:06.400 The entrepreneur that owns this processor will get paid for the input, the sludge.

00:26:11.400 And that same entrepreneur will get paid for the outputs, the electricity, the water, and the ash.

00:26:16.780 I am very impressed with this solution we're seeing here.

00:26:20.520 It generates electricity.

00:26:22.160 It generates clean water.

00:26:23.660 It will grow to every corner of the Earth that needs it, because it makes money every day.

00:26:29.160 It's water.

00:26:32.160 I can't even think about that without gagging.

00:26:39.160 Without gagging, I'm sorry to have shown that to you, I just want to let you know how weird this guy is.

00:26:43.900 I mean, you know he's going to be weird if he's a computer prodigy.

00:26:47.040 OK, fine.

00:26:48.040 That's great.

00:26:49.040 I mean, Elon Musk is a little bit quirky, and you can't be at that level without having a few quirks, shall we say.

00:26:55.780 But all of Bill Gates' quirks turn toward the dark side from his bigamist marriage.

00:27:02.620 You know, I won't get into that now, I've done a whole biography on him before.

00:27:05.460 I think by far the creepiest thing is his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and the fact that he is still polite company is shocking.

00:27:13.160 Well, I mean, remember what Gates said about that.

00:27:17.440 Whoops, too bad that Epstein's dead.

00:27:20.100 Remember this?

00:27:20.940 Well, he's dead.

00:27:21.980 So, you know, in general, you always have to be careful.

00:27:26.680 Well, he's dead.

00:27:28.240 I mean, that's creepy how he said it.

00:27:29.680 Let's stop talking about Bill Gates in generic, and let's talk about what happened in Vancouver.

00:27:33.960 Here's, I got a question for you.

00:27:35.760 Yeah.

00:27:36.760 Vancouver's a pretty eco-friendly city.

00:27:38.960 It's where, you know, Greenpeace and other environmentalist groups have probably their densest participation.

00:27:45.600 You know, it's very environmentalist.

00:27:47.900 It's where Greenpeace got its start decades ago.

00:27:50.280 People there are health-conscious, too.

00:27:54.480 And a lot of environmentalism has been done at the global level, the UN level.

00:28:00.160 So, at the Davos level, where Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum are, so do you think there's some folks in Vancouver who maybe for many years were environmentalists just because they want clean air, clean water, clean soil kind of thing,

00:28:15.740 who have now watched the virus lockdowns and the virus globalism and are thinking, yikes, I don't want to have a climate lockdown and climate globalism?

00:28:29.200 Do you think some Vancouverites who sort of went along with the eco thing have sort of been scared out of it now, watching Bill Gates these past two years?

00:28:36.760 That's a good question.

00:28:37.760 That's a good question.

00:28:38.760 I've definitely heard that from people who not necessarily were already feeling or as part of that community to begin with, but more people who challenged that narrative to start to say, hey, we're going to see climate lockdowns.

00:28:49.760 I remember reading about, hey, look how much energy we saved or whatever during the lockdowns and seeing comments of people sort of on social media saying, oh, we should do something like this more regular.

00:29:02.620 So maybe extending the hour that you turn off the lights to a week, I don't know.

00:29:08.500 But I personally haven't come across anyone who said, hey, you know, I used to be thinking this way and now, you know, I'm not buying this whole energy and climate change era.

00:29:20.220 The doctors, there was actually doctors on tour who took the stage, I want to say five or six of them at the protests.

00:29:26.300 And one of the questions one of the doctors asked was something about the climate change.

00:29:31.980 So and nobody put their hand up when they are asked if they believe in climate change.

00:29:36.700 So it's interesting that there's definitely a lot of discussion in this area.

00:29:41.160 And I think people in general are a little bit more skeptical, skeptical about these sort of polarized narratives we're getting on everything.

00:29:48.980 And some of them are diving into things a bit deeper now.

00:29:52.320 I want to play just one more clip from your visit there yesterday.

00:29:55.340 Here, take a look.

00:29:56.300 He's not a doctor, but anyone from the health system are listening and obeying to what he told them to do with us.

00:30:09.420 He's not an epidemiologist, but he just setting up epidemic.

00:30:17.080 This pandemic, because it's not pandemic, it's pandemic.

00:30:21.060 He's not elected, but he seems to be more important than the government itself.

00:30:30.900 Well, Drea, I mean, Vancouver, it's so close to the border, as are most Canadian big cities.

00:30:37.040 I mean, when you think about it, Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, so close to the border, Ottawa fairly close, even Calgary only a few hours away.

00:30:45.260 Really, our country is the second largest in the world, but we are in that little band about 100 miles from the border, 90 percent of our population.

00:30:51.520 So I can imagine why, especially a city as, you know, outward looking as Vancouver, would sort of be like an honorary American city.

00:31:01.200 I mean, a lot of Americans, I mean, if you're in Seattle, it's just a little bit further up the highway.

00:31:05.480 Anyway, so it's not surprising to me that a lot, I mean, and there's a lot of Hollywood stars who go up to Vancouver to shoot movies.

00:31:12.420 But part of me thinks that a lot of these American oligarchs see Canada as like a proving ground, a test facility for their craziest ideas.

00:31:22.380 I mean, George Soros is deeply involved with Chrystia Freeland.

00:31:25.520 She was his biographer.

00:31:27.080 There's a lot of things that are done in Canada as like a test bed.

00:31:31.080 So I'm worried that Bill Gates coming up to Canada is more than just, oh, it's a great city.

00:31:36.660 I was invited to talk to him.

00:31:38.100 I'm worried that he might have some Canadian plans.

00:31:40.160 Let me remind you that even Stephen Harper shared a stage with Bill and Melinda Gates and bought into some of their global work.

00:31:48.300 I don't know if Harper would do that again. 1.00

00:31:50.100 Are you worried that these oligarchs are trying to collect Canada as a little prize or or is it just like it was a cool city that he was invited to speak in?

00:31:58.620 There's nothing more than that.

00:31:59.500 I think you're right.

00:32:01.720 I think that there is a lot of attention and focus on Canada for a variety of reasons and in a lot of different ways.

00:32:08.220 And perhaps that has to do with our so-called niceness over here that perhaps we bite our tongues a little bit more.

00:32:16.760 If we don't think everybody thinks the same way as us, we're less likely to speak up.

00:32:22.100 That's what I think our niceness is.

00:32:23.800 So perhaps they've gotten away with quite a bit and they're getting some momentum here.

00:32:27.880 So this is an attractive area to come and just kind of focus on these areas and maybe make the connections that are helping moving along such agendas.

00:32:37.380 But, you know, we'll just have to keep a close eye and see how things are going.

00:32:43.240 I think it is something to see that many people come out after the provincial mandates dropped to come out and say, hey, we're not comfortable with someone who's done all of these things here in Vancouver.

00:32:57.140 So I guess it's not entirely going unnoticed anymore.

00:33:01.620 Yeah.

00:33:02.160 You know, you said a lot of interesting things.

00:33:03.680 I think maybe because Trudeau is the PM up here, that also is sort of a standing invitation to any globalist.

00:33:11.820 And certainly Bill Gates is that.

00:33:13.360 But you're right.

00:33:14.340 Since the worst of the lockdowns has been lifted, other than the travel bans and some of the government mandates, for that many protesters to show up for Bill Gates is feels impressive.

00:33:26.080 I don't think that would have been the case two and a half years ago before the pandemic and the lockdowns.

00:33:31.680 I really think he has exposed himself as as someone that is out to destroy our civil liberties, frankly, as part of some mad megalomanic scheme.

00:33:42.380 I think we have to bring back the use of the word oligarch.

00:33:45.960 It's usually used for Russian or Eastern European billionaires who meddle in politics.

00:33:50.460 But that absolutely, especially monopolists, and that absolutely describes Bill Gates, Jeffrey Bezos and most of these bossy billionaires.

00:34:00.480 Just because they're in tech doesn't mean they're an oligarch.

00:34:02.500 Bill Gates is an oligarch.

00:34:04.740 I just think that's a fact.

00:34:05.940 Last word to you, Drea.

00:34:06.840 Well, I just think the conflicts of interest alone are something that, you know, needs to have light shed on it, especially when it comes to someone like Mr. Gates, who, as I said earlier, has had his hands literally in everything when it comes to do with COVID-19 and has benefited tremendously.

00:34:25.380 And we see that also in the big tech era, too.

00:34:28.020 So I guess, you know, it's good.

00:34:30.920 And another thing, it's peaceful.

00:34:32.460 You know, nobody had the pies out waiting to smash them in Mr. Gates' face in case he came out.

00:34:38.660 So that's something to be commended as well.

00:34:41.840 Yeah.

00:34:42.300 Very interesting.

00:34:43.200 Well, thanks for being there.

00:34:44.120 I love your coverage from the West Coast.

00:34:45.980 Great to see you.

00:34:46.580 Thanks for your time.

00:34:47.960 Thank you for having me.

00:34:49.240 My pleasure.

00:34:49.880 There you have Adrea Humphrey, our B.C. Bureau Chief. 1.00

00:34:52.460 Stay with us.

00:34:53.000 More ahead.

00:34:58.020 Hey, welcome back.

00:35:06.340 Your Letters to Me, M.H., says the London Metropolitan Police claim to be issuing fines to those at 10 Downing Street when politicians had their little Christmas party.

00:35:15.620 We'll see.

00:35:16.540 I understand they did that.

00:35:17.780 So far, I have seen no tickets or prosecutions of any Canadian politician who has broken the rules.

00:35:23.800 I'll give credit to the London police.

00:35:25.280 I think it's too little, too late.

00:35:26.920 I mean, in Canada, we've seen Christian pastors thrown in prison for weeks or even months at a time.

00:35:33.400 And Mr. Sky Palace, Jason Kenney, oh, well, you know, it was just a little whoopsie.

00:35:38.140 So no police for him.

00:35:40.660 M. Sauvé says, here's a question for you.

00:35:43.180 If Trudeau froze the accounts of anyone who donated to the truckers, what's to stop him from freezing accounts to anyone donating to Rebel now that Trudeau is after the license required for Rebel to practice journalism?

00:35:54.400 It's a very good question.

00:35:56.180 It's a very serious question.

00:35:57.840 First thing I should tell you is that I am unaware.

00:36:00.500 And I spoke to the lawyer, Keith Wilson, who represents the truckers.

00:36:04.920 I'm unaware of anyone who had their bank account frozen or seized just for donating to the truckers.

00:36:11.380 I think that was a fear tactic by the disgraced and unethical interim police chief of the Ottawa police.

00:36:17.860 I think they were, and frankly, Christian Freeland and Justin Trudeau, I think they were trying to do exactly what your letter shows me has happened, to terrify people.

00:36:26.980 Now, 200 people did have their bank accounts seized or frozen.

00:36:30.720 But in almost every case, they were someone who was a trucker on the scene.

00:36:36.360 So they did go after the truckers and a few of the organizers.

00:36:39.300 But according to my interview with Keith Wilson the other day, you may have seen it was a special hour-long interview with Keith Wilson, who's the truckers' convoy official lawyer, no mere donor had their money seized.

00:36:50.860 So I do want to put you at ease about what has happened because that may change your prediction about what might happen.

00:36:58.060 But we are very alive to this risk.

00:37:02.340 And I am certainly not here to say, oh, that'll never happen.

00:37:06.380 I'm simply here to say that has not happened yet.

00:37:09.560 We would fight like hell against it happening.

00:37:13.380 Knock on wood, I don't want to tempt fate, but we have strong security for our donations and our list.

00:37:19.940 We don't even have that in Canada.

00:37:21.820 That's not even here in Canada, I should tell you.

00:37:24.440 I'm not going to get into the steps we've taken for our security and what happens if we are attacked in some outrageous way by Trudeau or Chrystia Freeland.

00:37:33.780 But we are taking legal steps to preemptively harden our company against illiberal actions by him.

00:37:41.960 You're right.

00:37:42.560 I mean, obviously, he's the government if he wanted to.

00:37:44.520 I suppose he could throw me in prison.

00:37:45.840 But we have a lot of lawyers who fight like heck, and we have a lot of donors who I think would, if there was a threat against Rebel News, would realize that we are one of the last ditch defenses before they go for ordinary people.

00:38:03.700 So I don't think we're there.

00:38:05.940 I think the truckers were the first ditch.

00:38:08.060 I think we're the next ditch, God forbid.

00:38:11.520 And both of those things would happen before they go for so-called ordinary people, like people who aren't high-profile activists.

00:38:18.980 So, yeah, I think we are sort of next in line.

00:38:22.520 But I think if they came for Rebel News, it would be an enormous, enormous thing.

00:38:28.100 The truckers they picked on were typically independent people, people with modest means, people who were not sophisticated in fighting back either legally or politically.

00:38:38.680 I think Rebel News, would you agree with me that after seven years of doing this, we are probably one of the better companies at fighting for our rights and defending ourselves against Trudeau?

00:38:49.140 I note that we are currently suing the government in seven different cases, the federal government.

00:38:54.520 So I don't think that we'll be as easy to push around.

00:38:58.740 I don't know if that's a good answer for you.

00:39:00.680 I do think about these things all the time.

00:39:03.960 We have not been attacked in a serious way by the government yet, as in that deeper way you suggest.

00:39:12.280 There's other things I want to tell you that I think would give you some reassurance, but I don't want to discuss our defensive strategies in public.

00:39:19.580 I hope you'll accept that.

00:39:21.280 Greg Christopher says the public health officer system has a conflict of interest embedded in the structure.

00:39:28.400 The World Health Organization should have no power to undermine Canadian autonomy.

00:39:31.840 This looks like a gradual seizing of powers to form one world governance.

00:39:35.940 Watch for a climate emergency declaration from the UN, probably slanted as a public health emergency.

00:39:41.180 Do we even get a referendum on the abdication of our nation's sovereignty?

00:39:44.740 Alas, no, and no one likes the UN and Davos and these international forums more than Justin Trudeau.

00:39:51.740 I mean, he loves it.

00:39:52.600 He'll sign away our national sovereignty in a heartbeat.

00:39:55.480 Now, I think he was chastened a bit.

00:39:57.120 He thought he had a chance to get Canada on the – as a temporary member of the Security Council, just FYI.

00:40:03.740 The UN, there's what they call permanent members of the Security Council, U.S., you know, Russia, China, for example.

00:40:12.000 But then there are different countries voted in by blocs.

00:40:15.760 There's sort of a European country and an African country, et cetera.

00:40:19.700 There are different blocs.

00:40:20.780 And so there's – I think it's two-year terms.

00:40:23.820 And Trudeau thought that he could give away so much foreign aid and visit so many countries that Canada would be voted in.

00:40:30.380 But no, it didn't happen.

00:40:31.200 Everyone knows Canada is sort of a lightweight.

00:40:33.460 And they had more serious things to do than give Trudeau another bauble.

00:40:37.940 So I think he was chastened a bit by that.

00:40:41.060 That's our show for today.

00:40:43.140 I'm going to leave you with our video of the day by Drea, who went to the University of British Columbia,

00:40:48.100 asking students what they think of Pierre Polyev's blockchain vision,

00:40:53.820 but also about Chinese social credit and government digital coins.

00:40:58.680 Very interesting conversation.

00:41:00.820 Strong turnout.

00:41:01.700 We see strong turnout for Pierre Polyev and for Leslie Lewis.

00:41:04.920 And actually, all the very lively conservative race.

00:41:07.800 I'd love to see him.

00:41:09.200 That's our show for today.

00:41:10.080 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:41:14.680 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:41:15.620 Being on university campuses and being conservative definitely makes you feel like a minority.

00:41:20.680 Well, there's definitely a prevailing campus culture of hostility towards non-left views.

00:41:25.600 The policies that the current government has imposed on us to deal with COVID

00:41:30.400 have actually not been scientifically backed.

00:41:32.720 The guy who's done blackface four times shouldn't be the guy championing against racism.

00:41:37.020 Hey guys, we can do a quick photo, but we really don't have a lot of time.

00:41:39.980 He's asking a question, and sort of the guy before him and the guy before him.

00:41:42.720 I'm a voter as well.

00:41:43.340 The central bank's only role should be to keep inflation low and the financial system is stable.

00:41:50.140 Alright, thank you so much.

00:41:51.300 I'm going to smile for the camera as well.

00:41:55.960 Drea Humphrey on the campaign trail for the Conservative Party's leadership race.

00:42:01.200 Behind me is Mr. Pierre Polyev, who has made his way to Vancouver, B.C.

00:42:07.380 I'm standing in a gathering that took place at UBC.

00:42:11.800 I'm told it's one of the largest ones that they've had in quite some time.

00:42:15.900 We interviewed the students that came to see here to talk about what it's like to be a young Conservative

00:42:21.040 and what they'd like to see from Mr. Polyev if he is to win this race.

00:42:26.300 One of the common things that came up was about his goal to make Canada one of the blockchain capitals of the world.

00:42:34.180 So if he'll take a question from us, we're going to ask him to elaborate a little bit more on that.

00:42:39.800 But first, let's hear from the students.

00:42:42.700 We have some students from Simon Fraser University.

00:42:45.980 Now, what's it like being a Conservative in Canada these days?

00:42:50.140 A young Conservative.

00:42:51.420 Yeah, so I'm an international student from Zimbabwe, you know, so it's more of a learning curve for me, you know,

00:42:59.020 being here in Canada and just learning about everything, just education, you know,

00:43:03.460 because I didn't know more of politics until I came here.

00:43:05.860 So it's pretty much good to be exposed to it, you know, and yeah.

00:43:09.220 I find it a little hard to be able to speak freely,

00:43:12.000 especially on a campus that I would assume values free speech in their classrooms.

00:43:16.620 And I feel that places like this allow for a more freedom of expression.

00:43:23.300 Well, there's definitely a prevailing campus culture of hostility towards non-left views,

00:43:28.620 especially since we are in one of, like, well, the most liberal city in Canada.

00:43:32.380 And we do have, like, a large population of people who have grown up extremely wealthy,

00:43:39.180 and they have no idea what the average Canadian has, like, lived through in their life.

00:43:43.440 No concept of what it is like for rural Canadians.

00:43:45.680 They don't understand the impacts that energy decisions, for example, have on them

00:43:49.060 because they'll live in their bougie Vancouver apartments, right?

00:43:52.360 And I think that kind of translates into academics here as it's not so much that, like,

00:43:57.220 you're banned from saying it, but it's almost social exclusion if you, like, progress your views, like, in public.

00:44:03.220 And so I think it's definitely a culture of, like, if I express my views, am I going to be shunned?

00:44:08.360 Being on university campuses and being conservative definitely makes you feel like a minority,

00:44:12.380 but it's just so amazing to be able to come here today and see so many people who just share the same thoughts and opinions

00:44:18.860 and be able to have conversations, see Pierre as well, so we're happy to be here.

00:44:23.260 I think it's better than what it is in the States, but still it's a bit tough.

00:44:26.600 Yeah, I mean, I say this, the guy who's done blackface four times shouldn't be the guy championing against racism, right?

00:44:33.440 He's pulled a con on all the young liberals.

00:44:35.280 Now, what is a promise you would like to see or hear from Mr. Paliyev if he becomes the leader of the Conservative Party?

00:44:43.780 Well, what he said about defunding the CBC sounds quite promising,

00:44:47.460 especially because, like, I don't see a lot of their, like, company supporting free speech, like, ideology.

00:44:55.760 And so I think that's going to be an important thing moving forward for Canada.

00:44:58.580 Actually, I just want him to keep his promises, do what he says.

00:45:03.220 This is what we're lacking for all of our politicians.

00:45:07.600 For example, Trudeau, he promised everything, including that he would respect the Charter of Canadian Rights and Freedom.

00:45:14.140 And now he violated every single section.

00:45:17.600 I would definitely like to see how he is working around the whole blockchain technology

00:45:21.580 because he actually made a bet on, like, he wants to make Bitcoin and Ethereum, like, a legal tender here in Canada.

00:45:29.440 So we are definitely looking forward to see, like, how that's going to work out.

00:45:32.440 What do you think one of the common stereotypes about Conservatives in Canada are, and what's the reality of that?

00:45:41.220 So the big one when I was young, we used to think that anyone who was a Conservative didn't care about poor people.

00:45:47.040 I grew up really poor, so for that reason I was Liberal when I was really young.

00:45:50.680 But, I mean, if you just look at what's happening in our country, who's really fighting for the average working person?

00:45:57.560 Is it the guy who's letting gas go to 220, the average house $880,000?

00:46:02.540 I mean, just think about it, right?

00:46:04.300 The notion that you have to be a millionaire just to have a place to put your head down at night,

00:46:08.680 is that the guy fighting for the poor person or the guy who wants to bring down house prices?

00:46:13.140 It's really important to know what your values are and to know what you stand for.

00:46:16.780 And personally, my convictions are, yeah, standing up for the rights and freedom for every Canadian citizen to be able to choose what's best for them and themselves.

00:46:24.960 And it's so cool to see a leader in the very same room as me who's advocating for those very same things.

00:46:30.280 All right, this is Sally with the UBC Conservatives.

00:46:33.040 Now, you helped organize this event.

00:46:35.460 How did it all come together?

00:46:36.960 Yes, yes, I did.

00:46:37.880 So I am president of the UBC Conservatives Club.

00:46:41.200 We are one of the biggest political clubs on campus.

00:46:45.480 And then I know that one of the really big things we want to do for members is have MPs and leadership candidates come out and speak to students

00:46:52.740 because we are the next generation and I want MPs to hear their voices.

00:46:58.280 So I got into contact with leadership teams, peers included.

00:47:02.120 And then Pierre loves the youth crowd.

00:47:04.500 He wants to speak with them, so he has agreed to come out.

00:47:06.860 And we've got a really big crowd out here today, which is really exciting.

00:47:10.020 Yeah, and you were saying that it's one of the biggest turnouts you have.

00:47:14.060 Is that due to COVID-19 or something else?

00:47:16.780 Well, it's just on campus at UBC, I find that people are not as engaged in politics at all.

00:47:23.520 We're like, again, you know, biggest political club.

00:47:26.480 People are more focused on school and their courses.

00:47:29.520 So this is the biggest event of any club politically on campus in the last five years.

00:47:35.820 It's not due to COVID.

00:47:36.660 It's just due to the passiveness, I think, a little bit of the campus.

00:47:40.020 So we're really hoping with this event to really rile up, you know, people interested

00:47:44.000 in politics and campus politics that want to get their voices heard and then be, you

00:47:48.300 know, the first of many events to come on campus.

00:47:50.900 Great.

00:47:51.300 What do you think is the stereotype that some people who are not conservative may have about

00:47:56.200 conservatives in Canada?

00:47:58.040 Well, I think people would think that, you know, I've heard words like conservatives are

00:48:02.640 crazies or, you know, anti-vax.

00:48:04.720 And they think we're not educated, which is not true, by the way.

00:48:08.200 There is more conservative youth, actually, on campus.

00:48:12.260 It's just people are very quiet about their views.

00:48:15.800 And this is mostly due to, I believe, them feeling that they will be called out on or,

00:48:20.640 you know, maybe even seen, you know, in a not, maybe not a good light if they do have

00:48:25.440 their views heard.

00:48:26.020 And it's really great to see all these people, you know, come out, as we can say, closeted

00:48:30.540 conservatives on campus and come out and talk to them.

00:48:33.080 If Mr. Paliyev was to become the leader of the conservatives, what's one promise you would

00:48:37.680 like to see him give for Canadians?

00:48:40.160 Well, I think affordable housing.

00:48:41.740 That is a really important thing for us students about to graduate.

00:48:45.000 I want to own my own home.

00:48:46.740 You know, I don't want to live on debt my whole life.

00:48:49.000 And also, I think they should, we should defend the CBC.

00:48:52.300 We should really get real news out there and not rely on the government to tell us everything.

00:48:57.200 Hey guys, we can do a quick photo, but we really don't want to tell.

00:49:00.200 He's asking a question, and sort of the guy before him and the guy before him.

00:49:03.060 I'm a voter as well.

00:49:03.700 Drea from Rebel News.

00:49:04.720 Good to see you.

00:49:05.280 Thank you very much for coming.

00:49:06.200 I lined up.

00:49:06.960 I'm hoping I can ask you just a super quick question.

00:49:08.840 Yeah, real quick.

00:49:09.500 The only thing is we are a little late, but I'd be happy to answer your question.

00:49:11.320 It'll be just as quick as everybody else who chatted with you.

00:49:13.280 Yeah, so recently you said that you are for Canada becoming sort of the

00:49:18.260 blockchain capital of the world.

00:49:20.720 I'm just wondering if that means, and I got to read it because I'm learning with everyone else here.

00:49:24.740 Does that mean you support centralized digital currency like we're seeing with Canada,

00:49:29.980 that they're developing with MIT, like what we're seeing that just rolled out with China

00:49:34.560 and their social credit system?

00:49:36.140 No, the opposite of that.

00:49:37.540 So you have central bank digital currencies, which are controlled by government.

00:49:41.560 You have decentralized blockchain assets like Bitcoin, which are controlled by no one.

00:49:50.980 Basically, Bitcoin is controlled by the majority of the processing power on the network,

00:49:57.100 which is held by thousands of people all around the world who don't even know each other.

00:50:02.460 And that's the genius of the blockchain and the genius of Bitcoin.

00:50:07.260 No one controls it.

00:50:08.180 The government doesn't control it.

00:50:10.140 It is controlled by a protocol, and you can buy and sell it without any intermediary.

00:50:17.000 Everything is updated on a public ledger that is verified by thousands of people around the world

00:50:24.080 through their computer network.

00:50:26.080 And those people don't even know each other, so they can't conspire to control it.

00:50:29.660 And the genius of that is it takes control out of money away from politicians and bankers

00:50:36.700 and potentially gives it to the people.

00:50:39.540 So the central bank digital currency, on the other hand, is controlled by governments.

00:50:43.880 That's what China is doing.

00:50:45.340 China has banned Bitcoin.

00:50:47.340 Well, they have brought in a central bank digital currency, which is designed to control people.

00:50:53.680 And I'm against having a central bank take deposits and take over the banking system.

00:51:00.100 I think that the banking system should be private.

00:51:04.460 The charter bank should be private.

00:51:06.260 And the central bank's only role should be to keep inflation low and the financial system stable.

00:51:13.400 All right.

00:51:13.860 Thank you so much.

00:51:14.560 I'm going to smile for the camera as well.

00:51:16.660 I'm a crypto trader.

00:51:18.180 Yes.

00:51:18.540 And so the thing that me and my friends love the most about it is that it's decentralized, obviously,

00:51:24.320 and no one can touch it.

00:51:25.320 Yes.

00:51:25.560 So how do you get around all this?

00:51:27.840 Like, I'm sure you pay attention to the space of scamming is unreal, what's happening,

00:51:30.980 especially in the NFT space.

00:51:32.420 So how can you avoid centralization of a currency but also regulate it?

00:51:37.600 Because that's a fine line, right?

00:51:40.460 Well, first of all, there are scams in every part of life.

00:51:43.360 There's scams using the American dollar, the British pound, the Canadian dollar.

00:51:48.520 There are scams in the stock market, in the bond market.

00:51:51.900 There are scams everywhere, right?

00:51:54.040 So people have to – but we're not going to ban dollars and stocks and bonds just because

00:52:01.560 there are some scam artists.

00:52:03.080 The first thing is that if someone – people have to take personal responsibility.

00:52:07.180 If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

00:52:10.000 Don't buy something you don't understand.

00:52:11.800 And there is a lot of junk out there, just like a lot of when the stock markets first

00:52:16.880 began.

00:52:17.320 There was a lot of scams that happened there, but we would have been mistaken to shut down

00:52:20.900 the entire stock market system.

00:52:22.540 So personally, I don't trust most of them.

00:52:26.700 But I do believe in Bitcoin and related technologies.

00:52:30.360 I'm not saying you should buy it or not buy it.

00:52:32.320 But I do believe you should have the freedom to buy it because it gives people the ability

00:52:37.520 using their own brain power to decide what to do with their own money.

00:52:41.840 And if the government is going to ruin our cash like they're doing right now, then the

00:52:45.640 people should have the right to look for other cash that they – that the government can't

00:52:51.080 control or manipulate.

00:52:52.340 I believe in taking control of money away from bankers and politicians and giving it back

00:52:56.360 to the people.

00:52:57.180 Me too.

00:52:57.740 So you're against CBDCs?

00:52:59.760 Yes.

00:53:00.220 All right.

00:53:00.660 There you have it.

00:53:01.880 More from Mr. Polyev about what he means about his goals with having Canada being the

00:53:07.260 next blockchain capital of the world.

00:53:09.780 I'm Drea Humphrey for Rebel News.

00:53:14.660 To find out more about what's happening in Canada's Conservative Party leadership race

00:53:19.700 and to support our independent journalism at Rebel News that doesn't take a penny from

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00:53:29.340 Thank you.

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