Rebel News Podcast - October 20, 2021


EZRA LEVANT ｜ I’m worried about the declining credibility of doctors


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A tweet sent by the Saskatchewan Health Authority gives away the game, and we're here to break it down. Today's guest is Ezra Levenrant, host of the Ezra Levin Show on the Rebel Network's The Ezra Levin Podcast.

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00:00:00.300 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through a tweet, a single tweet, by the Saskatchewan Health Authority.
00:00:07.320 Now, you might say, well, that's not enough to talk about a whole monologue about.
00:00:11.060 Well, no, I think it shows a lot. I think it shows the thinking of the government and the way that the government has published this tweet
00:00:18.520 in a way that's impossible to reply to normally, I think gives away the game.
00:00:23.540 I'll take you through it. That's ahead.
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00:00:44.880 All right.
00:00:57.660 Tonight, I'm worried about the declining credibility of doctors.
00:01:04.500 It's October 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:09.580 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:13.240 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:17.320 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:01:20.840 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:23.160 I'm worried about the declining credibility of doctors, individual doctors,
00:01:32.740 not because they are morally weak or morally evil.
00:01:35.440 Far from it.
00:01:36.280 I think the doctors, and I mean real doctors that practice real medicine every day,
00:01:40.240 especially general practice physicians who get to know their patients over the course of time,
00:01:44.480 family doctors, pediatricians, that kind of thing, I think they're amongst the most trustworthy people
00:01:50.280 around, especially those who get to know a particular patient enough that they truly fit the prescription
00:01:55.820 to the person, not jam a person into a prescription.
00:01:59.340 There's always been some moral hazards around for doctors, though.
00:02:03.060 If you've ever looked around a doctor's office, you surely see endless little knickknacks
00:02:07.740 emblazoned with the logos of different drug companies.
00:02:10.500 Did you ever notice that?
00:02:12.540 Just like realtors have fridge magnets and calendars and mouse pads and pens that they give out for free
00:02:18.720 as a kind of marketing.
00:02:21.940 Well, pharmaceutical companies do that, too.
00:02:24.640 To doctors, they literally have salesmen going from doctor's office to doctor's office,
00:02:29.280 and of course, they're giving things much more valuable than just a free pen.
00:02:33.820 And here's a story from just before the COVID pandemic, but it was when there was another
00:02:39.940 made-in-China pandemic, one involving highly addictive drugs called opioids. 0.83
00:02:46.160 Some were illegal, but some were prescribed.
00:02:49.700 Look at this story.
00:02:50.600 This is from the CBC.
00:02:52.780 Drug company founder convicted of bribing doctors with money, strippers, to sell more fentanyl.
00:03:00.180 That's one kind of opioid.
00:03:01.700 Let me read a little bit.
00:03:03.820 A pharmaceutical company founder, accused of paying doctors millions of dollars in bribes
00:03:09.080 to prescribe a highly addictive fentanyl spray, was convicted Thursday in a case that exposed
00:03:14.740 such marketing tactics as using a stripper-turned sales rep to give a physician a lap dance.
00:03:22.360 Some of the most sensational evidence in the months-long federal trial included a video of employees dancing
00:03:33.620 and rapping around an executive dressed as a giant bottle of the powerful spray, Subsys,
00:03:38.620 and testimony about how the company made a habit of hiring attractive women as sales representatives.
00:03:43.860 Here's a story from a few months later.
00:03:46.780 Remember, we found over 700 doctors who were paid more than a million dollars by drug and medical device companies.
00:03:55.980 ProPublica has been tracking drug companies spending on doctors since 2010.
00:03:59.700 We just updated our database and found that companies are still paying private doctors huge sums for promotional talks and consulting.
00:04:06.960 Here's global news.
00:04:10.220 The 10 largest pharmaceutical companies in Canada gave more than $151 million to doctors and hospitals across the country over the last two years.
00:04:19.520 But unlike the U.S. and many European countries, Canada has no legislation compelling drug companies to reveal
00:04:25.900 which health care providers got money or what it was for.
00:04:30.320 Now, all three of these stories were from 2019, right before COVID hit.
00:04:36.360 They were talking about other drugs, obviously.
00:04:40.000 Do you think there's a teeny tiny chance that drug companies are doing the same thing now with doctors?
00:04:44.540 Free trips, free trips, cash, speaking fees, really just money laundering.
00:04:50.980 It would be surprising if they weren't.
00:04:53.340 So there's that sort of corruption.
00:04:54.860 But the bigger threat, of course, is not strippers or bribes, 0.62
00:04:59.320 but rather from colleges of physicians and surgeons,
00:05:03.380 the regulators of the medical profession,
00:05:05.140 threatening to destroy any doctor who expresses an opinion that is contrary to the government.
00:05:11.300 This is explicit.
00:05:12.500 This is exactly what these doctor certification, doctor oversight boards are saying in public right now.
00:05:19.080 If you ever say, for example, as a doctor,
00:05:22.400 that the Nobel Prize winning medicine called ivermectin is useful against COVID,
00:05:27.280 even if that's your honest opinion, maybe even based on experiments, I don't know.
00:05:31.200 Or if you give a medical exemption to someone where a politician says,
00:05:34.860 no, you can't do that, you will lose your right to be a doctor
00:05:37.320 and you will be smeared and defamed by the board of doctors.
00:05:40.000 We spoke to one such doctor just a few weeks ago, remember?
00:05:43.480 Physicians are banned from giving any advice to patients or the public
00:05:49.440 that could be construed as anti-vaccine, anti-distancing, anti-masking,
00:05:55.960 or promoting what they call unfounded treatments.
00:05:59.060 And this is unheard of.
00:06:01.100 It's unprecedented.
00:06:01.940 The medical community is very used to having free and open debate around scientific issues,
00:06:11.380 around treatments, because treatment recommendations change from time to time.
00:06:16.800 Yeah, you don't have to destroy more than a half dozen doctors across Canada
00:06:20.500 to get the rest to shut up pretty quickly, do you?
00:06:22.720 But it's one thing to be scared into silence or passive,
00:06:26.160 but what about actively engaging in hoaxes?
00:06:32.200 Like filming a fake ICU overcrowding.
00:06:35.540 A video with the CBC full of mannequins, not people.
00:06:39.600 Something strange is going on in healthcare.
00:06:41.440 These people were heroes, to the establishment at least.
00:06:46.340 In the UK, they had this thing where everyone would go outside their house in the evening
00:06:49.240 and bang on pots and pans in a symbolic thank you to nurses and doctors.
00:06:53.460 That's what it was like.
00:06:58.760 I'm grateful for nurses and doctors.
00:07:00.640 Of course, I think everybody is.
00:07:02.800 But you kept seeing TikTok videos filmed by nurses and doctors and hospital staff
00:07:08.060 at hospitals in empty wards.
00:07:11.340 And it made me skeptical.
00:07:12.920 It made me a little bit mad, to be honest,
00:07:15.800 because it put a lie to the rest of it,
00:07:18.140 that we were truly in a crisis, that we were overcrowding.
00:07:21.920 This video I'm showing now is one of the most elaborate.
00:07:25.940 I think it was filmed in Europe somewhere.
00:07:28.500 They had literally hundreds of hospital staff participating in it.
00:07:32.380 It must have taken days to film.
00:07:34.660 I think they filmed it with drones also.
00:07:37.120 I mean, that's the effort you put into a rock video.
00:07:39.480 So my point is, I'm glad for the nurses and doctors,
00:07:42.800 but something's a bit off.
00:07:44.360 It doesn't quite look like a pandemic to me.
00:07:47.080 There was a kind of a lie behind it.
00:07:48.680 You know what I mean?
00:07:50.260 I remember this funny old sketch from Monty Python.
00:07:55.220 This is what I always imagined a pandemic to look like.
00:07:58.740 I know this is a comedy, but something like this.
00:08:01.260 Bring out your dead!
00:08:10.860 Bring out your dead!
00:08:15.680 Bring out your dead!
00:08:17.520 Here's one.
00:08:18.680 Ninepence.
00:08:19.360 I'm not dead!
00:08:20.700 What?
00:08:21.120 Nothing.
00:08:21.540 Here's your ninepence.
00:08:22.380 I'm not dead!
00:08:23.820 Here.
00:08:24.560 He says he's not dead.
00:08:25.640 Yes, he is.
00:08:26.220 I'm not!
00:08:27.080 He isn't.
00:08:27.860 Well, he will be soon.
00:08:28.840 He's very ill.
00:08:29.320 I'm getting better!
00:08:30.600 No, you're not.
00:08:31.160 You'll be stone dead in a moment.
00:08:32.300 I can't take him like that.
00:08:33.900 It's against regulations.
00:08:35.080 I don't want to go on the car.
00:08:37.020 Oh, don't be such a baby.
00:08:38.460 I can't take him.
00:08:39.500 I feel fine.
00:08:40.740 Well, do us a favour.
00:08:42.100 I can't.
00:08:42.860 Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes?
00:08:44.220 He won't be long.
00:08:45.040 No, I've got to go to the Robinsons.
00:08:46.660 They've lost nine today.
00:08:48.100 Well, when's your next round?
00:08:49.700 Thursday.
00:08:50.240 I think I'll go for a walk.
00:08:51.800 You're not fooling anyone, you know.
00:08:53.140 That's a silly comedy, but isn't that a little bit more of what a pandemic looks like than TikTok videos?
00:09:02.140 Well, if you think that's absurd, where we are now is the weirdest.
00:09:06.460 From heroes to zero, 20,000 nurses in Quebec are about to be fired.
00:09:11.600 Now, they hesitated at the last minute.
00:09:13.600 They've delayed it a bit.
00:09:14.380 But what do you think that would do to the health care system in Quebec?
00:09:20.000 It makes no sense unless you truly do want a health crisis, truly do want a terrible situation.
00:09:25.740 No time for TikTok videos then.
00:09:28.020 Maybe you want an excuse to bring in 20,000 foreign nurses and their families. 1.00
00:09:31.920 That's probably 100,000 migrants right there.
00:09:34.360 Extrapolate that across the country.
00:09:36.080 You'll get rid of the most independent-minded, the most dissident nurses and doctors.
00:09:39.280 Weed them out, replace them with grateful migrants who owe their new home and new job to the government. 1.00
00:09:44.700 You tell me another sane explanation for this crazy plan.
00:09:49.280 So I'm worried about the reputation of doctors and nurses because something's not right.
00:09:53.100 I'm not so much worried about the grassroots doctors and nurses, but the bosses, the fancy ones,
00:09:57.620 the ones who run hospitals and long-term care homes,
00:10:00.400 the ones who would have been taking the million-dollar bribes from the opioid companies
00:10:04.920 and who are surely being targeted by vaccine companies now.
00:10:08.520 Use AstraZeneca.
00:10:10.220 No, no, use Pfizer.
00:10:11.560 No, use Moderna.
00:10:13.440 Tens of billions of dollars are moving around.
00:10:17.980 And the fame and the celebrity, I think that's even more intoxicating to doctors than money.
00:10:22.640 Being a TV doctor, a TV star, from anonymity to fame, maybe you'll get your own show.
00:10:29.720 You too can be like Anthony Fauci.
00:10:32.380 He's a star.
00:10:33.460 You can be on the cover of magazine too.
00:10:35.120 But I'm worried that we just can't trust doctors as much, at least not all of them.
00:10:41.480 It's not good.
00:10:42.360 It isn't good for public health or for personal health.
00:10:45.560 Look at this.
00:10:46.200 This is a tweet from Saskatchewan's health authority.
00:10:49.540 If you can see what this is, at the bottom is a Trudeau ad for the vaccine.
00:10:54.640 It says COVID vaccine helps protect you from getting sick with the disease.
00:11:00.440 Even if you're young, healthy, and fit, the vaccine will give your body a layer of protection
00:11:04.780 that it didn't have.
00:11:05.600 Get vaccinated and help protect everyone.
00:11:07.680 Now, you can haggle over that.
00:11:09.060 You can dispute it.
00:11:10.440 There are opinions in there.
00:11:11.920 There are simplifications in there.
00:11:13.840 But it can stand up as an honest opinion.
00:11:16.000 It doesn't talk about side effects, especially for young men.
00:11:18.900 It doesn't tell you that young men are six times as likely to have to go to the hospital
00:11:23.200 from a vaccine reaction as from the virus itself.
00:11:26.420 It doesn't tell you that many foreign countries are banning certain vaccines for young men.
00:11:31.260 So it's not fully honest.
00:11:32.980 That's Trudeau for you.
00:11:34.320 But on top of that Trudeau tweet is one from Scott Moe, the premier of Saskatchewan,
00:11:40.040 through the Saskatchewan Health Authority.
00:11:42.080 And it says, your risk from COVID-19 is not determined by age, fitness level, or community.
00:11:51.300 Your risk is determined by vaccine status.
00:11:53.940 78% of all new cases and hospitalizations in Sask in September were unvaccinated or partially
00:11:59.440 vaccinated people.
00:12:03.560 Is it true that your risk from the virus is not determined by age or fitness level?
00:12:10.220 No, that is not true.
00:12:12.080 In fact, that is completely false.
00:12:15.160 It's overwhelmingly an old person's disease in terms of severe illness or death.
00:12:21.100 Average age of death is around 80, but it's more than that.
00:12:25.320 It is a fat person's disease.
00:12:27.580 It is a sick person's disease.
00:12:30.100 Alberta has some of the best statistics for that.
00:12:32.660 By far the most victims of COVID-19 are not only old, they have three or more underlying
00:12:39.020 serious conditions, heart attack, stroke, dementia, kidney disease, things like that.
00:12:44.580 These are literally the least fit people in society, the oldest people. 1.00
00:12:49.820 This is not controversial stuff.
00:12:51.140 It's what we know universally throughout Canada.
00:12:53.800 COVID-19 targets old people, fat people, sick people. 0.85
00:12:57.680 Sure, young people can get it, but in many cases, they don't even know it.
00:13:01.160 They don't even notice it.
00:13:02.060 They certainly don't die in the same numbers.
00:13:04.240 But the Saskatchewan Health Authority said, your risk from COVID-19 is not determined by
00:13:10.580 age or fitness level.
00:13:12.380 That's a lie.
00:13:13.260 That is a dangerous lie.
00:13:16.220 That is misinformation.
00:13:17.820 That is a deliberate distortion to sell drugs.
00:13:20.680 I don't know.
00:13:21.600 I wonder if they got a stripper dance for that tweet. 1.00
00:13:23.600 I don't know.
00:13:24.220 Can you explain it?
00:13:25.740 You know that they know they're lying.
00:13:29.520 Because look what they did.
00:13:30.480 They banned anyone from replying in the normal way to a tweet.
00:13:33.500 I don't know if you're on Twitter, but you can reply.
00:13:35.840 They banned that.
00:13:36.620 You see where they banned comments from the public?
00:13:39.040 I've never seen them do that before.
00:13:40.380 Or that's so weird for a health authority to stop people from replying.
00:13:43.920 Why would you do that?
00:13:44.540 You knew.
00:13:45.340 You knew you were up to something.
00:13:46.640 They wanted to hide their lies.
00:13:48.420 But people saw.
00:13:50.500 Thousands of people have quoted this tweet with their own response.
00:13:53.600 I don't know if you can see that number there.
00:13:54.980 Now, here's my simple response.
00:13:56.780 I said, misinformation, fake news, conspiracy theory, anti-science, because it's all those
00:14:01.280 things.
00:14:01.740 And if you would have said the other side, you'd be off Twitter.
00:14:04.840 Many other people have used stronger words.
00:14:06.720 Lots of people showing science.
00:14:08.700 But look who is liking this.
00:14:10.260 I just picked one example.
00:14:11.860 Saskatchewan Health.
00:14:13.120 University of Saskatchewan Health Services.
00:14:15.780 And other medical authorities.
00:14:17.220 They know it is a lie.
00:14:18.820 Why are they repeating the lie?
00:14:20.940 They know it.
00:14:23.220 Well, did you ever read that book, 1984, by George Orwell?
00:14:25.740 A test of loyalty was to look at something and to say it was false.
00:14:31.880 How many fingers am I holding up?
00:14:34.540 Well, it's four.
00:14:35.460 But they're going to torture you until you save five, to save five, to show your loyalty to the party, or you will be punished until you do.
00:14:45.240 Not because the party thinks this is five.
00:14:47.280 They know it's four.
00:14:48.160 They know that you know.
00:14:50.940 They know that you know that they know.
00:14:53.060 That's the whole point.
00:14:54.620 Can they break you?
00:14:56.740 Can they make you complicit in your own undoing?
00:14:59.560 Here's the last sentence from the book.
00:15:01.420 Winston Smith, the hero, finally learning to love big brother.
00:15:05.160 He gazed up at the enormous face.
00:15:09.840 Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark mustache.
00:15:15.460 Oh, cruel needless misunderstanding.
00:15:18.100 Oh, stubborn self-willed exile from the loving breast. 0.96
00:15:21.760 Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose.
00:15:25.060 But it was all right.
00:15:25.700 Everything was all right.
00:15:26.680 The struggle was finished.
00:15:27.700 He had won the victory over himself.
00:15:30.880 Yeah, the Saskatchewan Health Authority, they know the virus doesn't target everyone equally.
00:15:38.440 They know better than anyone.
00:15:40.580 And they know that you know.
00:15:42.620 And they know that you know that they know.
00:15:45.660 That's why they blocked the replies.
00:15:48.740 This is why this tweet is important.
00:15:50.520 It is a test.
00:15:52.880 Will you say what they say and do what they do?
00:15:56.100 Will you submit and subvert the truth to their lie?
00:15:59.760 Will you pass or fail their test?
00:16:01.740 That's what they're doing.
00:16:14.880 Welcome back.
00:16:15.640 Well, last night, Alberta held its municipal elections.
00:16:18.900 That's basically every town and city.
00:16:21.400 It's not particularly interesting, although Edmonton and Calgary are important cities.
00:16:26.280 But at the same time, Alberta held a plebiscite, really, on who should serve it in the federal Senate.
00:16:34.740 Of course, that's not a decision to be made by the province.
00:16:37.500 That is the power of the federal government.
00:16:40.340 So it's something that Justin Trudeau could certainly well ignore.
00:16:43.700 At the same time, there was a referendum to take Alberta's temperature, really, on the issue of equalization payments.
00:16:50.280 So what would normally be probably an unremarkable evening of local votes has, I think, more meaning in joining us now to talk about the results is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:17:02.400 Sheila, how are you doing?
00:17:03.860 I'm great, Ezra.
00:17:05.160 Thanks for having me on the show.
00:17:06.560 Well, it's my pleasure.
00:17:07.580 I am originally from Calgary, but I did spend some time in Edmonton.
00:17:12.520 And I went to law school up there, and I did some work after law school at a law firm there, and I got to know both cities.
00:17:19.040 And so I'm very sad to see that a liberal hack named Amarjeet Sohi has now the mayor in Edmonton.
00:17:26.740 I'm not that surprised because Edmonton's a little bit more left-leaning.
00:17:30.460 But Calgary, to see a Naheed Nenshi Mini-Me successor flatten the so-called conservative candidate, that makes me despair a little bit.
00:17:42.440 Because if you can't win a conservative town like Calgary, where are you going to win?
00:17:49.880 And I wonder why that is.
00:17:51.660 Do you have any thoughts on why the liberal left candidates won in both Calgary and Edmonton?
00:17:56.360 Well, Edmonton, as Ralph Klein rightly pointed out one time when he said Edmonton is a nice city with too many mosquitoes and socialists, and that just comes from being the government town.
00:18:09.460 It's where all the public sector workers are.
00:18:11.080 It's always been left-leaning, even back in Ralph Klein's day.
00:18:14.200 That's just how it is.
00:18:15.800 It's really, frankly, it's a miracle that even federal conservatives get elected there once in a while.
00:18:20.540 So that's sort of a write-off.
00:18:22.040 Although it is interesting to see a failed liberal cabinet minister who was once on Edmonton City Council, Amarjeet Sohi, get elected in Edmonton when he is so upfront about being anti-oil and gas and anti-pipeline.
00:18:37.040 And I think in Edmonton and Calgary, the real winners are probably the Parkland Institute and the Pembina Institute, those left-leaning institutes that get all sorts of municipal money to tell you just exactly how much recycling you need to do and how low flow your showerheads are and how to retrofit your house with things that will make it more energy efficient.
00:19:01.720 But in Calgary, the mayor-elect, Giotta Gondek, I think she was elected like 16 or 17 hours ago, and she's already talking about declaring a climate emergency in Calgary.
00:19:17.820 And so you know what that means.
00:19:19.080 That means more bike lanes.
00:19:20.460 It means lower speed limits, more expensive and useless recycling scams.
00:19:25.460 Calgary's in for like a real wild ride.
00:19:30.720 And I think she will be the leader of the official opposition here in Alberta, even more so than Rachel Notley is, because Rachel Notley is widely disliked in conservative circles.
00:19:44.480 Gondek isn't quite there yet.
00:19:46.100 And if we thought that Kenny and Naheed Nenshi had a prickly relationship, I think it's going to get much, much worse between Jason Kenny and the city of Calgary.
00:19:58.080 I just find that baffling.
00:19:59.580 I mean, listen, Calgary is a city like any other city, but it is, I think, the most conservative big city in Canada.
00:20:07.360 It is where Ralph Klein came from, where Stephen Harper came from.
00:20:10.940 Stockwell Day wasn't from Calgary proper, really, but he, I mean, it was sort of a base for him.
00:20:18.880 You know, the Taxpayers Federation historically, the Reform Party was born there.
00:20:23.340 Social credit, if you want to go back a century now.
00:20:27.500 The Manning Center spent gazillions of dollars, I'm not sure quite what, doing what.
00:20:34.180 Like, it's where right-wing things are supposed to happen there.
00:20:39.700 Go ahead.
00:20:40.380 Yeah, you know, that's an interesting point, though, when you bring up the think tanks, because I think a lot of the problem here is, in Calgary, is that conservatives, like, have sort of walked off the field of municipal politics.
00:20:54.500 It's really just a left-wing thing.
00:20:57.320 Conservatives tend to focus on provincial politics and the macro-federal issues, but really the government that affects you first and most is the municipal level.
00:21:05.780 And yet, there's really no fundraising for the next up-and-coming conservative leader on that level.
00:21:13.000 The public sector unions, particularly the very powerful municipal ones in Edmonton and Calgary, they dump money into PACs or third-party advertisers to help their preferred candidate.
00:21:26.200 There's none of that happening at the conservative level.
00:21:30.320 The money just isn't there.
00:21:32.060 None of the businesses are donating to the conservative organizations to sort of cultivate a new conservative candidate.
00:21:38.440 And then the business community wonders why they're getting stuck with all these extra taxes when they didn't rally around the conservative of their choice or, you know, the potential conservative candidate.
00:21:49.620 But also, I think some of this has to do with the wide dislike of Jason Kenney and its trickling down into municipal politics.
00:22:00.380 I really do.
00:22:01.460 Anybody that sort of was even closely related to the UCP, and as was the case with Jeremy Farkas, nobody wants anything to do with them.
00:22:11.360 And you can see the flip side of this playing out.
00:22:14.300 So the conservatives, the UCP, did not really get involved in the referendum question on equalization.
00:22:21.800 And you would normally think they would have been really pushing for the yes side of that, like the yes side, yes, we need to get equalization out of the Constitution.
00:22:31.880 But they didn't really lobby and campaign on that.
00:22:35.280 And I think that's to the benefit of the yes side winning, because I think they were so widely disliked.
00:22:40.780 But that is a conservative issue.
00:22:43.200 So when conservative voters are willing to vote on a conservative issue in favor of it, but not for a conservative politician, Houston, we have a problem.
00:22:55.060 Yeah, I think also there's some Jason Kenney fatigue and some Aaron O'Toole fatigue.
00:23:01.180 And I think that's largely demoralized conservatives.
00:23:04.560 And Jeremy Farkas, who I think would have been a better mayor in Calgary.
00:23:08.140 Definitely.
00:23:08.500 And Edmonton had its conservative candidate who came closer, if I'm not mistaken.
00:23:17.780 They could have been bolder conservatives.
00:23:20.220 I think that someone who styled themselves as an anti-lockdownist, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
00:23:28.180 Maybe that would have gotten them crushed. 0.97
00:23:29.780 But I just feel like if you're not really a conservative fighting hard, why would people be motivated to help you?
00:23:36.960 And the left certainly never stops putting the pedal to the metal.
00:23:41.240 There's never been a time in my 49-year life where leftists and progressives and communists and socialists, whatever you want to call them,
00:23:49.060 haven't always had their pedal to the metal, fold, go as fast and as hard as you can.
00:23:54.600 They never rest.
00:23:56.140 They never tire.
00:23:57.140 They're like the Terminator.
00:23:58.080 They never compromise.
00:23:59.680 You can't bargain with them.
00:24:01.100 When you make a concession to them, that's the new starting point.
00:24:04.960 The left never rests.
00:24:06.940 And the right has self-doubt and goes on a holiday and screws up and turns liberal.
00:24:13.840 And maybe that's part of it, too.
00:24:15.260 But it's terribly depressing to me.
00:24:16.620 And in the most conservative province in the two big cities to vote in leftists like this, I find it troubling.
00:24:22.460 And I don't think it reflects the city.
00:24:24.520 But maybe I'm wrong.
00:24:25.620 Maybe that's Alberta these days. 1.00
00:24:27.980 Well, I really don't think it is.
00:24:30.140 I don't think it is.
00:24:30.960 And I think the referendum question sort of plays out the fact that this is really not who Alberta is.
00:24:38.060 They just really don't like the offerings that conservatives brought forward for them.
00:24:42.620 I think that's what happened here.
00:24:44.620 But this election really should have been a wake-up call for the conservative voter.
00:24:50.300 And I hope to heck it's a wake-up call for conservative politicians, both federally, if they didn't already learn something.
00:24:57.300 And, you know, never underestimate the ability of federal conservatives to not learn anything.
00:25:03.020 But I hope it's a wake-up call for Jason Kenney and the UCP because this is coming at them right away in about a year from now.
00:25:10.900 That's a great point.
00:25:11.980 Yeah, they're terribly unpopular.
00:25:13.460 They're terribly unpopular.
00:25:15.540 And they need to learn from what just happened federally and what just happened municipally and maybe try to do something different.
00:25:21.980 But it really should have been a wake-up call for the conservative voter because long before Jason Kenney was imposing vaccine passports on people,
00:25:29.340 it was the mayors and council who were sort of saber-rattling and putting pressure on the provincial government to bring those to you.
00:25:38.020 And so as a conservative voter or conservative-minded people, they really should have realized that this patchwork quilt of onerous restrictions all across the province,
00:25:48.240 those were born at the municipal level because conservatives have not put in place people who actually care about civil liberties at the municipal level.
00:25:57.780 And that's where a lot of these civil liberties and fractionates were happening.
00:26:00.640 Yeah, you know, I think again of Ron DeSantis in Florida, of course, there's different cities and counties and school boards across Florida,
00:26:09.700 some of which are Democrat-controlled, some are very authoritarian.
00:26:13.260 But Ron DeSantis has sort of flooded the zone and has said, any school board that forces masking, we will fine you.
00:26:21.480 We will withhold funds from you.
00:26:23.880 Any company that has a vax mandate, we will punish you.
00:26:28.740 So Ron DeSantis wasn't happy to leave it to local authorities if those local authorities were tyrants.
00:26:36.060 He said, I'm going to stop you.
00:26:37.380 But that's the difference between showing conservative leadership and courage and Jason Kenney's bizarre, staggering approach.
00:26:47.440 And I think that it was a victory for Amirjeet Soheed and Johnny Gondek, a victory for the left.
00:26:55.460 But if I was a UCP backbencher, I would now know, I mean, not think, but know in my bones.
00:27:04.160 Yep.
00:27:04.640 That if Jason Kenney leads the party into the next election, they will be crushed like a bowl of eggs.
00:27:11.160 And so maybe they don't care.
00:27:13.400 Maybe they want to be in opposition MLA from, you know, Stetler, Alberta.
00:27:17.940 It's a great town.
00:27:18.780 Or Drayton Valley.
00:27:19.880 Or Oyen, Alberta.
00:27:20.920 Great places.
00:27:22.560 Bicycle, you know, Turner Valley.
00:27:25.280 There's wonderful places to be a conservative MLA.
00:27:28.020 And you will be a conservative forever.
00:27:31.020 But you'll just be in opposition.
00:27:32.280 So if you're fine being a backbench conservative party MLA, that's fine in opposition.
00:27:38.360 That's fine.
00:27:38.820 You're fine.
00:27:39.300 But if you don't want Rachel Notley to win in, what's it, two years now, a year and a half now, you better fix that ship.
00:27:49.520 And that captain ain't right.
00:27:50.720 And I say this as a guy who's known Jason Kenney for most of my life.
00:27:53.820 For 30 years we've been friends.
00:27:55.840 And if the party doesn't throw him overboard and have a mutiny, then he will take their little ship and steer it right into the iceberg.
00:28:03.860 That's what I see clear as day.
00:28:05.480 I think you're right.
00:28:08.240 And I think those MLAs need to hear from their constituents.
00:28:12.840 I don't know how much they're listening.
00:28:15.300 But they do need to hear from their constituents.
00:28:17.360 And, you know, it's interesting to see, even on the referendum question, the urban-rural divide is taking place again.
00:28:24.700 For example, the equalization question, the yes side was upwards of 70% in the more rural municipalities and 58% in Calgary.
00:28:37.800 I think if Jason Kenney doesn't step down and if there isn't a leadership change, you are going to see that party crack apart back into the PCs of old.
00:28:49.980 They'll probably keep the same name that they have.
00:28:52.520 And a devolution back into, like, Wild Rose versus PCs.
00:28:56.560 And guess who always comes up the middle when that happens?
00:28:59.440 That's how we got Rachel Notley.
00:29:00.760 So things have to get sorted out before those rural MLAs say, I got to leave because I need to save my shirt.
00:29:10.240 That's what's going to happen here.
00:29:11.900 Now, there was a Senate plebiscite Senate election.
00:29:14.840 I haven't seen the results to that.
00:29:18.420 I looked and I couldn't find them, but I didn't spend a lot of time on it.
00:29:21.600 Do you know how that Senate election result has come down?
00:29:25.300 I haven't seen the final results yet.
00:29:27.620 But they're sort of waiting on that along with the finalized plebiscite numbers, for example, the thing that nobody cared about.
00:29:37.360 We also asked a question about daylight savings time.
00:29:41.180 Literally nobody cares about that except when you change the clock.
00:29:43.960 But I do know that the PPC candidates who also ran, they finished around 4% to 5%.
00:29:52.260 So it'll likely be another conservative blowout in that respect with the Senate candidates.
00:29:58.420 Well, I mean, I believe in Senate elections.
00:30:01.420 In fact, 25 years ago or so, I was the Senate campaign manager for Preston Manning.
00:30:07.000 The vehicle then was called the Reform Party of Alberta, funny enough.
00:30:11.280 And although Jean Chrétien stuffed those seats right in the middle of the campaign as a real thumb his nose of Alberta,
00:30:18.460 Stephen Harper eventually made good on that election.
00:30:21.000 So I think it is not a valueless exercise.
00:30:24.460 It shows the state of the province and how the East despises any attempts at reform.
00:30:30.620 But I think that those conservative senatorial candidates,
00:30:34.800 I think that they do have a chance of eventually being appointed if history is any guide.
00:30:39.600 But all in all, a disastrous night.
00:30:41.660 But we have our work to do, Sheila, that's for sure.
00:30:44.780 We always do.
00:30:45.680 You know, the most important thing that we do here is we fight for freedom and we fight for the little guy.
00:30:52.160 And I think that Edmonton and Calgary electing two very serious pro-lockdown mayors,
00:30:58.560 that means we've got a lot of work cut out for us.
00:31:01.740 Because even if provincially they lift the Vax Pass mandate, they will remain in these two cities. 0.92
00:31:07.640 I'm sure of it.
00:31:08.940 Yeah.
00:31:09.420 Yeah, it's terrible.
00:31:10.680 All right, Sheila, great to catch up with you.
00:31:12.000 Thanks for your help.
00:31:12.540 Thanks, boss.
00:31:14.000 There you have it.
00:31:14.780 Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter.
00:31:16.860 Stay with us more ahead.
00:31:30.620 Fearfully, Kate says,
00:31:32.440 Dr. Hinshaw has left the building.
00:31:34.280 I don't think Dina has been making any decisions other than to submit for quite some time now.
00:31:39.680 Dear Dina, Dina, stop letting these people own you. 1.00
00:31:43.800 Be courageous.
00:31:44.520 You don't want to be this person.
00:31:45.740 Go out with truth and dignity.
00:31:47.420 You deserve better than this.
00:31:49.460 Well, look, I don't know.
00:31:50.620 I don't know Dina Hinshaw.
00:31:52.680 I don't know if she's Kenny's boss or if Kenny is hers boss.
00:31:56.020 I think it may be a little bit more like what Teresa Tam is.
00:31:59.580 And as you know, last year we showed you, through an access to information request, Teresa Tam's contract with the United Nations World Health Authority.
00:32:08.840 She actually has a nondisclosure agreement she signed with the UN promising to keep their secrets.
00:32:15.060 She was actually on the board that voted as to whether or not to declare COVID-19 infectious to people or not.
00:32:22.980 That was in the early days in January of 2020.
00:32:25.240 So she's keeping UN secrets at the same time she was working as Canada's public health officer.
00:32:32.500 I think that Teresa Tam really didn't make any decisions on her own.
00:32:38.820 I think she was really the UN World Health Organization spokesman in Canada.
00:32:43.440 And I think the provincial public health officers were just sort of deputies of her and then city health officers were deputies of them.
00:32:53.420 I don't think there was a lot of independent thinking or research going on at all.
00:32:58.780 I think it literally was follow the flock like birds line up naturally.
00:33:04.780 I think every public health officer was in lockstep with the other.
00:33:08.280 I honestly don't know what they all do for a living other than repeat the same talking points.
00:33:12.920 Couldn't you have like an intern do that or like an app?
00:33:18.060 Perseus 09 says,
00:33:20.720 If I lied to the government about anything, I could expect to be fined or even arrested for it.
00:33:24.340 Interesting how the government itself is exposing their own double standards.
00:33:27.020 Bandits to the core.
00:33:28.840 Well, that's the thing.
00:33:29.540 Lying is not a crime.
00:33:30.820 That's the weird thing.
00:33:31.640 You are allowed to lie in Parliament.
00:33:33.720 What you're not allowed to do is call someone a liar in Parliament.
00:33:36.480 That's called unparliamentary.
00:33:39.120 That's a violation of parliamentary privilege or unparliamentary language.
00:33:43.600 I'm worried about the lies, but I'm also worried about the immunity that the drug companies have managed to get from the government.
00:33:50.760 So it's one thing to mislead people about the safety or efficacy of a vaccine.
00:33:56.260 But what happens if you're compelled or duped into taking the vaccine and are harmed and you cannot sue the vaccine companies because they're indemnified?
00:34:05.820 I find this a troubling time.
00:34:08.080 That's our show for today.
00:34:09.280 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rubble News World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:34:15.420 But before we go, let me leave you with a great video of Alexa La Voix in La Belle Provence.
00:34:21.120 Good night.
00:34:21.440 Good night.
00:34:51.440 with them.
00:34:52.440 Then we have an end of the future
00:34:54.440 to be able to preserve
00:34:56.440 our rights and freedoms
00:34:57.440 and our choices.
00:35:03.440 We have kept our jobs
00:35:05.440 and we work for the population.
00:35:07.440 So that's it.
00:35:16.440 One month,
00:35:17.440 it doesn't change absolutely nothing
00:35:18.440 in our lives.
00:35:19.440 The government tries to take revenge,
00:35:22.440 but to defend
00:35:25.440 our rights and our liberties,
00:35:27.440 it doesn't change absolutely nothing
00:35:28.440 this month.
00:35:29.440 We will continue.
00:35:40.440 Unis
00:35:41.440 contre la tyrannie!
00:35:43.440 Unis
00:35:44.440 contre la tyrannie!
00:35:47.440 Unis
00:35:48.440 contre la tyrannie!
00:35:51.440 La police with us!
00:35:53.440 La police with us!
00:35:58.440 La police with us!
00:36:00.440 La police with us!
00:36:01.440 It's around 1 p.m. We are at Terrasse Dufresne in the old Quebec and as you can see like thousands
00:36:13.040 of frontline workers are there to protest against the mandatory vaccine that was supposed to be in
00:36:22.160 on the 15th of October but Christian Dubé decided to postpone for the 15th of November. I don't know
00:36:30.020 what will change but it's a fact. This protest will have a march until like the Abraham field so we'll follow it.
00:37:00.020 So, today I'm interested to know, for those frontline workers, how do you still live the difference between the vaccinated and the vaccinated with your colleagues?
00:37:21.520 I would say that I have the chance to have colleagues who are relatively respectful of them because they know that I respect them.
00:37:30.020 They know that I have a certain credibility and that they respect my values but I think that it's not the same everywhere.
00:37:36.020 It's the same everywhere. And we are here especially in support of employees and the health personnel.
00:37:41.520 We are still in a certain proximity with them.
00:37:44.520 And we are still in the future and we are still in the future.
00:37:51.020 For me, probably, it's more dramatic because I'm in the technical service.
00:37:56.020 But, in fact, I'm quite the only one who remains.
00:38:01.020 With my point of view of this problem,
00:38:05.020 some colleagues, they support me.
00:38:09.520 Some, they remain healthy.
00:38:10.520 I don't have aggression.
00:38:13.520 I don't have pressure.
00:38:15.520 In my environment, it's relatively good.
00:38:19.520 Well, I don't have pressure.
00:38:21.020 Well, my colleagues who were vaccinated,
00:38:22.020 and who were to stay today,
00:38:24.020 if we were no longer there,
00:38:25.020 they were really...
00:38:26.020 They were really...
00:38:28.020 They didn't know where they were going.
00:38:29.020 There were a lot of people in the week.
00:38:32.020 There were a lot of people in the week.
00:38:33.020 Well, what are we going to do?
00:38:35.020 What's the plan?
00:38:36.020 There's not really a plan.
00:38:37.020 Yes, there's a plan.
00:38:38.020 Where do I go?
00:38:39.020 Where do I go?
00:38:40.020 There's no more activity.
00:38:41.020 There's no more activity for residents.
00:38:42.020 Then, the plan would follow in the next weeks.
00:38:45.020 After that, we would have been there.
00:38:47.020 But there, we are reported in one month.
00:38:49.020 Well, it's true that we, we accept everyone.
00:38:53.020 But we don't feel that it's reciproc
00:38:54.520 from the people who are vaccinated.
00:38:56.520 We keep our eyes open.
00:38:58.020 We accept the arguments of other people.
00:39:01.020 And it's normal that there are arguments contrary.
00:39:03.520 Otherwise, it would be clear that everyone would think the same.
00:39:05.520 But we feel more attacked and oppressed
00:39:09.020 when we talk about it than the opposite, I think.
00:39:12.020 Well, I'm private.
00:39:14.020 At home.
00:39:15.020 I feel that I have an employee who, in the moment,
00:39:17.020 doesn't push the vaccination.
00:39:20.020 My patients no longer.
00:39:22.020 But what I hear from my colleagues who are outside,
00:39:25.020 who are public,
00:39:27.020 it's quite the same thing as my sister.
00:39:31.020 The same thing.
00:39:32.020 They cut everywhere.
00:39:34.020 The girls who decide 0.53
00:39:36.020 they don't want to vaccinate.
00:39:38.020 but we ask something.
00:39:39.020 What's it going to do yesterday?
00:40:06.020 to go abroad, they also come to ask the pass.
00:40:09.020 So it's really a huge stress.
00:40:12.020 In fact, what is a bit strange in this moment,
00:40:15.020 what we try to show to people is that we need to be united.
00:40:19.020 Vacciner or not, it's not important in the sense
00:40:23.020 that we should all keep our employment,
00:40:26.020 and we are all important, we are all equal.
00:40:29.020 And that's what is sad in this moment.
00:40:31.020 The support that we don't have, that we don't have,
00:40:34.020 that we don't have employees,
00:40:36.020 our colleagues, in the fond, it's that.
00:40:38.020 We would say that the people,
00:40:40.020 and the employees and the syndicates,
00:40:42.020 we have the impression that we don't have any support.
00:40:45.020 Because we believe that, vaccinated or not,
00:40:48.020 there's no difference in the sense
00:40:50.020 that we should all keep our employment
00:40:52.020 and work for the population.
00:40:54.020 So, that's it.
00:41:01.020 You think that the fact that they changed the date,
00:41:08.020 they were pushed back to a month for the obligatory vaccination?
00:41:12.020 What do you think of that?
00:41:14.020 I hope.
00:41:15.020 I hope there's a little bit of humanism
00:41:19.020 in the politicians, and maybe they start to listen
00:41:21.020 to what the population says.
00:41:23.020 They start to realize that we need to respect
00:41:26.020 the rights and freedoms of people,
00:41:29.020 and maybe some important consequences on the majority
00:41:32.020 of the population.
00:41:33.020 They start to peser the for and the contre
00:41:34.020 the consequences.
00:41:36.020 So, we hope that we're listening
00:41:38.020 and that people start to wake up.
00:41:40.020 I think that it's a wake-up call general
00:41:42.020 of the population.
00:41:43.020 It's not just a question of vaccines or not.
00:41:45.020 It's a question that,
00:41:47.020 above all that,
00:41:48.020 the population is trying to divide.
00:41:50.020 We're trying to create a climate,
00:41:52.020 a climate of terror,
00:41:54.020 of aggressiveness.
00:41:56.020 It's the fight of our lives,
00:41:59.020 that we live currently.
00:42:01.020 It's sad.
00:42:03.020 It's really important that people realize
00:42:06.020 what's going on,
00:42:07.020 what's going on,
00:42:08.020 what's going on,
00:42:09.020 what's going on,
00:42:10.020 what's going on,
00:42:11.020 what's going on,
00:42:12.020 what's going on.
00:42:13.020 With the politics,
00:42:16.020 a little bit.
00:42:17.020 Yeah,
00:42:18.020 because, when we don't change our ideas.
00:42:20.020 One month,
00:42:22.020 it doesn't change absolutely nothing
00:42:23.020 in our lives.
00:42:24.020 The government tries to take revenge.
00:42:27.020 But,
00:42:28.020 to defend our rights
00:42:31.020 and our liberties,
00:42:32.020 it doesn't change absolutely nothing
00:42:33.020 this month.
00:42:34.020 We're going to continue.
00:42:35.020 I'm going to see the result
00:42:37.020 of their recruitment.
00:42:38.020 They've had difficulty
00:42:39.020 to recruit for help during the pandemic.
00:42:42.020 I do my course,
00:42:44.020 as a student,
00:42:45.020 as an infirmary auxiliary,
00:42:47.020 because it's the pandemic
00:42:48.020 that I could say,
00:42:49.020 my God,
00:42:50.020 I could even do more
00:42:51.020 if I had been an infirmary auxiliary,
00:42:53.020 not just to be proposed,
00:42:55.020 let's say,
00:42:56.020 find your people.
00:42:57.020 I tell them,
00:42:58.020 find them,
00:42:59.020 find them,
00:43:00.020 find them.
00:43:01.020 Because people,
00:43:02.020 we've been souffled,
00:43:03.020 it's been a long time
00:43:04.020 that we've been souffled
00:43:05.020 in health,
00:43:06.020 we've got staff,
00:43:07.020 we've got staff,
00:43:08.020 we've got staff,
00:43:10.020 our directors,
00:43:11.020 our assistants,
00:43:12.020 who are sitting in the office
00:43:14.020 to do their paper,
00:43:15.020 they're not on the floor,
00:43:17.020 they're not on the floor,
00:43:18.020 they're nurses, 1.00
00:43:19.020 these people too.
00:43:20.020 So,
00:43:21.020 come on,
00:43:22.020 come on the floor,
00:43:23.020 come on the floor,
00:43:24.020 come on the floor,
00:43:25.020 find them,
00:43:26.020 find them,
00:43:27.020 try to find them.
00:43:28.020 That's what I'm saying.
00:43:29.020 It's a victory for us,
00:43:30.020 because it's just
00:43:31.020 that,
00:43:32.020 for 30 days more,
00:43:33.020 I'm suddenly more dangerous
00:43:34.020 as I'd be like today.
00:43:36.020 And then,
00:43:37.020 you said that I could
00:43:38.020 go to work
00:43:39.020 for two to three times a week,
00:43:41.020 so why,
00:43:42.020 the 15th of November,
00:43:43.020 we won't continue
00:43:44.020 in the same line?
00:43:45.020 So, I think it's a gain
00:43:46.020 for us,
00:43:47.020 but it's a double tranchant
00:43:49.020 in the sense that
00:43:50.020 we,
00:43:51.020 during the two months,
00:43:52.020 we were stressed every day,
00:43:53.020 before the date of buttocks arrive,
00:43:55.020 and two days before it arrives,
00:43:57.020 it arrives with it,
00:43:58.020 so we're happy,
00:43:59.020 and we're still happy.
00:44:00.020 It's a double tranchant
00:44:01.020 a little bit,
00:44:02.020 I believe,
00:44:03.020 because,
00:44:04.020 from one side,
00:44:05.020 as my colleague said,
00:44:06.020 it's a victory,
00:44:08.020 I think,
00:44:09.020 for the health care
00:44:11.020 as the population,
00:44:12.020 because,
00:44:13.020 of course,
00:44:14.020 I believe
00:44:15.020 that the government
00:44:16.020 realized
00:44:17.020 that they could not
00:44:18.020 allow us
00:44:19.020 to be able
00:44:20.020 to do
00:44:21.020 many people
00:44:22.020 and to nuire
00:44:23.020 to their population.
00:44:24.020 Personally,
00:44:25.020 I hope
00:44:26.020 they will realize
00:44:27.020 that they can
00:44:28.020 not allow us
00:44:29.020 for the rest of the life,
00:44:31.020 for the rest of the time,
00:44:33.020 and that it will just
00:44:34.020 stop completely.
00:44:36.020 But the other side
00:44:37.020 which is sad,
00:44:38.020 but it's there
00:44:39.020 that it gives us
00:44:40.020 even more weight
00:44:41.020 and argument,
00:44:42.020 it's that there are people
00:44:43.020 who have already found
00:44:44.020 an other job,
00:44:45.020 who have made
00:44:46.020 the effort,
00:44:47.020 who have been forced
00:44:48.020 to send their CV
00:44:49.020 to several places.
00:44:50.020 Even
00:44:51.020 for us,
00:44:52.020 we tried to find
00:44:54.020 another job,
00:44:55.020 we didn't want
00:44:56.020 to nuire
00:44:57.020 to the other
00:44:58.020 jobs
00:44:59.020 that we're trying
00:45:00.020 to find out
00:45:01.020 and say,
00:45:02.020 it's not a long time,
00:45:03.020 it's not a long time.
00:45:04.020 It's sad,
00:45:06.020 it's all the preparation
00:45:07.020 behind that.
00:45:08.020 We have months
00:45:09.020 and months
00:45:10.020 we stress
00:45:11.020 to know
00:45:12.020 if we're going to
00:45:13.020 keep our jobs,
00:45:14.020 if we're not going to keep it,
00:45:15.020 and at the end,
00:45:16.020 they're pushing us.
00:45:17.020 I think
00:45:18.020 that the good way
00:45:19.020 to explain it,
00:45:20.020 it's that they play
00:45:21.020 with the lives of people.
00:45:22.020 That's the point
00:45:23.020 that I find sad,
00:45:24.020 that they allow us
00:45:25.020 to play with the lives
00:45:26.020 and say,
00:45:27.020 we don't do that,
00:45:28.020 we don't do that.
00:45:29.020 It's not correct,
00:45:30.020 it's unacceptable.
00:45:39.020 Do you think it will arrive
00:45:40.020 the 15th of November
00:45:41.020 if they don't repose
00:45:42.020 and they don't
00:45:43.020 do the vaccination
00:45:44.020 obligatory?
00:45:45.020 I think,
00:45:46.020 unfortunately,
00:45:47.020 there are millions
00:45:48.020 of workers
00:45:49.020 who will not go to work
00:45:50.020 this day.
00:45:51.020 At this moment,
00:45:52.020 we're trying to do
00:45:53.020 a intensive recruitment
00:45:54.020 intensive
00:45:55.020 of the people
00:45:56.020 who are not vaccinated.
00:45:57.020 But,
00:45:58.020 I see doctors,
00:45:59.020 nurses,
00:46:00.020 nurses,
00:46:01.020 who doubt
00:46:02.020 about the actual vaccine.
00:46:03.020 The COVID,
00:46:05.020 it's something
00:46:06.020 that people
00:46:07.020 don't get vaccinated,
00:46:08.020 it's 99,9%.
00:46:10.020 So,
00:46:11.020 why put these people
00:46:12.020 on the floor?
00:46:13.020 I think
00:46:14.020 that the consequences
00:46:15.020 are much bigger
00:46:16.020 than to say,
00:46:17.020 we're not going to accept
00:46:18.020 the workers
00:46:19.020 who have no vaccine.
00:46:20.020 But,
00:46:21.020 we're protected
00:46:23.020 a little bit
00:46:26.020 with our revenue.
00:46:27.020 We have the right
00:46:28.020 to, probably,
00:46:29.020 on certain
00:46:30.020 steps like
00:46:31.020 insurance
00:46:32.020 salary.
00:46:33.020 We're going to see
00:46:34.020 the future.
00:46:36.020 But,
00:46:37.020 we're still
00:46:39.020 on this organization
00:46:42.020 because,
00:46:43.020 as we see,
00:46:44.020 we're many.
00:46:45.020 It gives courage
00:46:46.020 and it gives hope.
00:46:48.020 And,
00:46:49.020 we believe
00:46:50.020 that
00:46:51.020 we'll win
00:46:52.020 the 27th October
00:46:54.020 in the course.
00:46:55.020 Honestly,
00:46:56.020 I don't have any idea.
00:46:57.020 I don't have any idea.
00:46:58.020 I'm a magazine
00:46:59.020 of other jobs
00:47:00.020 present.
00:47:01.020 I think it's going to be
00:47:02.020 the same thing.
00:47:03.020 It's not possible
00:47:04.020 that in 30 days,
00:47:05.020 we'll find
00:47:06.020 11,000
00:47:07.020 or 27,000 people
00:47:08.020 who are currently
00:47:09.020 in the health system
00:47:10.020 because it's already
00:47:11.020 needed.
00:47:12.020 It's impossible
00:47:13.020 that in 30 days
00:47:14.020 it's not possible
00:47:15.020 to make immigrants 1.00
00:47:16.020 or workers
00:47:17.020 outre-mer.
00:47:18.020 In 30 days,
00:47:19.020 I don't think
00:47:20.020 that it's possible
00:47:21.020 that it's possible
00:47:22.020 to be done.
00:47:23.020 I think
00:47:24.020 that the people
00:47:25.020 who are not vaccinated
00:47:26.020 is because they have
00:47:27.020 30 days of more.
00:47:28.020 They have taken their decision.
00:47:29.020 Their decision,
00:47:30.020 it's important
00:47:31.020 that we still have
00:47:32.020 and not because
00:47:33.020 they have 30 days of more
00:47:34.020 that they will
00:47:35.020 give us two vaccines,
00:47:36.020 I think.
00:47:37.020 I also,
00:47:38.020 I really ask the question.
00:47:39.020 I ask,
00:47:40.020 do you want to do it
00:47:41.020 as they just did it?
00:47:42.020 They do it
00:47:43.020 for 30 days
00:47:44.020 and then we don't
00:47:45.020 do it.
00:47:46.020 We do it.
00:47:47.020 And then we ask,
00:47:48.020 do you find something else?
00:47:49.020 Or they will
00:47:50.020 do the same game
00:47:51.020 in the last minute
00:47:52.020 and they will
00:47:53.020 remind us
00:47:54.020 that you're
00:47:55.020 there.
00:47:56.020 I really ask
00:47:57.020 the question.
00:47:58.020 I think
00:47:59.020 they will
00:48:00.020 do the same thing
00:48:02.020 I think.
00:48:03.020 But in an other
00:48:04.020 sense,
00:48:05.020 Mr Dubé
00:48:06.020 really,
00:48:07.020 really,
00:48:08.020 really.
00:48:09.020 So,
00:48:10.020 I don't know.
00:48:11.020 I don't know.
00:48:12.020 I don't know.
00:48:13.020 Like my colleague
00:48:14.020 said,
00:48:15.020 it's the same thing.
00:48:16.020 They are
00:48:17.020 with it.
00:48:18.020 They are
00:48:19.020 entered
00:48:20.020 in an
00:48:21.020 in an age
00:48:22.020 who will
00:48:23.020 be difficult
00:48:24.020 to stop.
00:48:25.020 Like my colleague
00:48:26.020 said,
00:48:27.020 I don't think
00:48:28.020 there's no one
00:48:29.020 who will decide
00:48:30.020 to get vaccinated
00:48:31.020 in the next 30 days.
00:48:32.020 And they will not
00:48:33.020 find out
00:48:34.020 there.
00:48:35.020 what you need
00:48:36.020 to understand
00:48:37.020 is that we are there.
00:48:38.020 We love our work.
00:48:39.020 It's sad.
00:48:40.020 We love our work.
00:48:41.020 And the only thing
00:48:42.020 that we need to do
00:48:43.020 is to keep
00:48:44.020 the safe and continue
00:48:45.020 to help the population.
00:48:46.020 It's all what we need.
00:48:47.020 It's simple.
00:48:48.020 And we're not as dangerous as they say.
00:48:52.020 It's been about 18 months that the pandemic is there,
00:48:56.020 all around the world, and for my part,
00:48:59.020 we've never lived a paramedicine without COVID.
00:49:03.020 It's been about a year and three months that we've been paramedics,
00:49:07.020 and we started there, and because of the government,
00:49:11.020 we're at risk of ending there.
00:49:13.020 But we've never been to anyone,
00:49:16.020 we've never felt that we've been to anyone.
00:49:18.020 On the contrary, it's our job to help people.
00:49:21.020 And I don't understand why we were there since the beginning,
00:49:24.020 and then we'd be dangerous.
00:49:26.020 Why, all of a sudden, we wouldn't be correct?
00:49:46.020 The demonstration was coming to a hand in front of the Parliament of Quebec
00:49:51.020 when François Malega spoke, wanting to demonstrate to the population
00:49:56.020 that Act 105, prohibiting all demonstrations in front of schools and hospitals,
00:50:02.020 had no place to be, and that it was possible to do so peacefully.
00:50:07.020 He therefore invited people who wished to join him as far as the hospital,
00:50:18.020 the Hôtel Dieu de Québec, in order to exercise the right to protest.
00:50:22.020 Let's go!
00:50:28.020 Not uncross.
00:50:40.020 Let's try not to act.
00:50:42.020 The police therefore created a human chain in order to block access to the institution.
00:51:12.020 All went well except one independent journalist who ended up being arrested and another man too.
00:51:28.680 So it's been a really great and exciting day.
00:51:34.220 It was really nice to see all the frontline workers all gathering together for the same cause.
00:51:40.840 They were from different fields of work, but they were there against the mandatory vaccine.
00:51:48.120 It gets really crazy.
00:51:50.060 A lot of people were there for own support to them.
00:51:53.760 So it was Alexa for Urban News.
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