Rebel News Podcast - July 16, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Irish citizens revolt against migrant housing scheme


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The government wants to build a 500-person migrant center in the heart of a low-income community, and the locals don t want it. So they're protesting. And the government's response? Rioting. We're on the ground in a neighborhood in Dublin.

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00:00:00.000 I'm on the ground in Dublin, Ireland. I came here because there were riots by Dubliners against a
00:00:05.760 proposed 500-person migrant center in the heart of a low-income community. The community doesn't 1.00
00:00:12.860 want it. The politicians demand it. We'll show you what happens. But first, let me invite you
00:00:17.360 to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. I want you to see what we saw, not just hear it,
00:00:21.640 because I want you to see the people. I want you to see the protesters. I want you to see
00:00:25.940 the young men wearing masks and balaclavas. To see it, you need to join Rebel News Plus,
00:00:30.980 eight bucks a month at rebelnewsplus.com. This is an interesting story, I promise you.
00:00:35.960 All right, here's today's podcast.
00:00:55.940 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:08.900 Ezra Levant here in a neighborhood in Dublin called Kulak. I'm standing outside of Burger
00:01:14.760 King. There's lots of kids in there. Behind me, the Leisureplex. As you can see, it's all about
00:01:19.880 family fun. Different ages, they even have a ballroom, you know what I mean? A room of all
00:01:24.860 those little balls where kids go in. There's the Odeon Theater. This is a place for kids and for
00:01:30.720 families. But right across the street there is an abandoned or empty warehouse factory. It used to
00:01:38.640 be a paint company, but the government has decided to put hundreds of migrant men in there. Just men, 1.00
00:01:47.240 hundreds of them. I've heard 250. I've heard 500. I've even heard 1,000. And they're just
00:01:53.440 plunking them down in this residential area, an area that's actually low income, where they don't
00:01:59.240 have services enough already. That has led to opposition amongst the locals. And there's no
00:02:06.500 process. There's no process of objection or consultation. If they were going to build a big
00:02:12.040 apartment block there, there would be all sorts of hearings. And is there enough parking? What does it do
00:02:17.860 for traffic? None of that applies here. The government has announced they are putting hundreds
00:02:23.840 of migrant men here. And the local community can like it or lump it. For months, a group of men have
00:02:31.420 been standing outside the front with like a homemade blockade, stopping the construction from getting
00:02:38.480 underway. I was here two months ago. Let me show you what that looked like. I'm standing in front
00:02:44.320 of a protest that has been here for weeks. It is an encampment. There are men who rotate through
00:02:53.720 here. There are flags. There are signs. Who are these men and what are they protesting? They're Irishmen
00:03:01.640 from the neighborhood of Kulak who are protesting an empty warehouse that used to be owned by a paint
00:03:09.260 company. It's a massive warehouse in which is planned a migrant residence. What they plan to do, 0.99
00:03:18.360 the government, is turn this warehouse, which used to store paint, into a home for 500 to 1,000
00:03:26.340 migrants, including some single men. They seek to put modular homes into this building. And these people
00:03:37.140 in the local community are saying they can't bear that. Some of them say to have this many single
00:03:43.140 men in this neighborhood with nothing to do is a risk, especially given that right across the street
00:03:49.500 is the bowling alley, the Burger King, the place where all the kids mill around. Putting hundreds of
00:03:56.540 military-aged foreign men unemployed right across the street could upset the neighborhood, could cause 1.00
00:04:03.620 issues ranging from safety to access to services. This is not a wealthy part of Dublin. One of the
00:04:12.440 complaints is who will service these newcomers. I think the number one complaint, though, talking to
00:04:20.740 some of the men who have staffed the protest around the clock, is that nobody asked them. This was being
00:04:28.660 foisted on the community. A lot of people are happy to see us here. In fact, we just met one man who
00:04:37.700 recognized us from Rebel News and thanked us for her work. He was very articulate, very passionate,
00:04:43.400 and, to use a phrase, severely normal. I asked him if he would say anything on camera. He said he couldn't
00:04:49.800 because he's part of the army. He's part of the Irish army. And for him to express himself could get in
00:04:55.280 trouble. Well, yesterday, things came to a head. There was a protest there, and hundreds of people
00:05:01.700 marched. Some of them got violent. They wore black balaclavas. They hurled bricks. They hurled
00:05:10.360 Molotov cocktails. They torched a police car, torched some machinery. Police responded in kind.
00:05:17.600 80 riot cops wearing exoskeletons. It was a melee. Take a look at what it looked like.
00:05:22.980 They're free. They're sovereignty. And they're telling you, you do not. They're telling you
00:05:29.020 that all that's gone, that you're under a dictatorship.
00:05:31.460 They're the prime minister's prime ministerial party. They allow them to SBIR wag 들어 to get
00:05:38.440 whatever action.
00:05:40.140 We don't have any effect on them.
00:05:42.140 I am just a good thing.
00:05:44.140 Let's get it.
00:05:46.140 All right.
00:05:48.140 We're going to go this way.
00:05:50.140 I didn't bring it to the local.
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00:07:06.120 Well, that is the news that absolutely dominated today.
00:07:13.040 When we landed at the airport in Dublin, we saw nine newspapers.
00:07:17.820 The front page of each one was about the arrests.
00:07:22.880 It wasn't about the underlying politics or the underlying grievance.
00:07:26.320 It was about the 15 people who were arrested.
00:07:29.740 And in a way, that's a double shame.
00:07:31.260 Of course, violence is not a solution to public policy problems,
00:07:34.780 but it also took all the oxygen and all the attention away
00:07:38.120 from the underlying grievance in the community.
00:07:40.640 I want to show you just a few of the headlines here.
00:07:44.080 This is the Irish Daily Mail.
00:07:46.720 Deplorable. At least 15 arrested.
00:07:50.600 Violence on streets.
00:07:52.640 Mob fury. Again, talking about those people who were arrested.
00:07:57.600 Day of mayhem.
00:07:58.860 But let me show you a story.
00:08:00.680 But look at this story here.
00:08:02.400 The front page story was about the mayhem.
00:08:04.780 Rau brews over plans to house 280 migrants in a village of 165 people.
00:08:12.020 Local politicians appalled at lack of consultation with community.
00:08:16.680 And here's that local dundrum house hotel has been earmarked
00:08:21.880 for accommodating international protection applicants.
00:08:26.320 And then suddenly the government announced,
00:08:28.000 your village of 165 will now have 280 very special guests.
00:08:32.720 They're all men. 0.99
00:08:33.600 They're all foreigners. 1.00
00:08:34.680 You have no say in the matter.
00:08:36.260 We're taking over your local inn.
00:08:38.560 So goodbye to your tourism industry.
00:08:40.500 And we're just doing this to you because you weren't asked.
00:08:45.140 You didn't give your consent.
00:08:46.440 And you have no way to protest.
00:08:49.040 Can you see why some people would be driven to such extremes?
00:08:54.300 Let's go across the street now to where the actual riot happened.
00:09:00.480 Remember when I was standing here in May?
00:09:03.280 This is where the men had a kind of encampment.
00:09:06.700 It reminded me a little bit of the Canadian truckers
00:09:10.160 or the anti-carbon tax protests west of Calgary.
00:09:14.040 There were a bunch of ordinary people here with Irish flags.
00:09:17.560 And you can probably hear in the background,
00:09:18.980 a lot of cars are honking as they go by.
00:09:21.120 Well, this is new.
00:09:22.480 I think this was put up last night after the fiery, riotous protests.
00:09:29.180 Enormous concrete blocks making it very impassable.
00:09:33.680 You really would have difficulty climbing over those.
00:09:37.660 You wouldn't want to, I mean, that certainly wouldn't be for anyone
00:09:41.640 other than a young athletic person.
00:09:43.760 You wouldn't have the kind of mass protests that 90% of the protesters were yesterday.
00:09:49.840 Obviously, there are people undeterred.
00:09:52.600 I see 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 15 people here with Irish flags.
00:09:58.240 You can see they have some signs,
00:10:00.880 it's concerned parents for Kulak, protect our children.
00:10:04.600 Bellina says no supports Kulak.
00:10:09.240 People honking as they go by.
00:10:12.220 I mentioned that town, that village of 165 people,
00:10:16.680 getting 280 migrants dropped on them.
00:10:20.320 You can see that massive structure behind there.
00:10:23.540 Do you see that massive structure?
00:10:24.900 That used to be a paint factory warehouse kind of thing, and it's empty.
00:10:30.720 And at least the plan I was told, and I'm not sure if the government's being candid with this,
00:10:35.980 was to have like those giant intermodal sea can boxes turned into little housing units,
00:10:42.420 completely inappropriate.
00:10:43.400 I mean, to turn that windowless warehouse into basically a warehouse of people,
00:10:51.880 migrant men, right across the street.
00:10:53.700 I showed you before this mall across the street.
00:10:56.920 It's a kid's mall.
00:10:58.140 It's a family mall.
00:10:59.080 The Burger King, the Odeon, the kids' leisure plex.
00:11:02.340 Imagine putting 500 single military-age migrant men there and saying,
00:11:09.020 suck it up. 0.97
00:11:10.160 We're the government.
00:11:10.960 We're telling you how it is.
00:11:12.640 Shut up, they explained.
00:11:14.840 Let's go across the street and see if anyone will talk to us.
00:11:17.400 My guess is they hate the media.
00:11:19.240 Were you at the protest in May, the big march in the city?
00:11:21.840 Yeah, I was, yeah.
00:11:22.500 What's your name?
00:11:23.260 Jayat.
00:11:23.960 Nice to meet you.
00:11:25.260 So yesterday was a big conflagration.
00:11:28.340 We can see some of the charge.
00:11:29.860 So, so major.
00:11:31.120 It was a big, big thing for Kulak, and it's what we've been trying to prevent.
00:11:34.920 We didn't want this.
00:11:35.840 We wanted it peaceful, kept peaceful.
00:11:37.780 We've been here for 116 days, day and night.
00:11:41.240 We've given up so much and sacrificed so much to be here.
00:11:44.340 We tried to find a better way, but unfortunately, they didn't listen.
00:11:48.120 The government is letting us down once again.
00:11:50.100 They will not listen to the people.
00:11:51.520 The people do not want this.
00:11:53.320 We've been saying no.
00:11:55.060 Is there any process, legal process, political process, zoning, planning?
00:12:02.000 Is there any way that you can express yourself through the system?
00:12:06.760 Everybody is ignoring us.
00:12:08.640 We've tried to reach out to everybody.
00:12:10.220 We're falling on debt first.
00:12:11.340 We're being called uneducated, jobless, you name it.
00:12:15.380 We've been called a far-right, racist, bigots.
00:12:18.240 No one is listening to us.
00:12:19.320 In fairness, our concern here is for the concerned parents of Kulak, for us.
00:12:27.780 As concerned parents, we don't want a thousand men or 500 men, wherever they want to put in.
00:12:31.700 We don't want that in here.
00:12:32.720 We want the safety of our children to be able to walk and go where they want.
00:12:37.320 Our children are going to be able to come down here, cross the road.
00:12:40.200 We have our Plex and our Burger King and a few little things over there.
00:12:43.140 Our children aren't going to be allowed to do this.
00:12:45.980 So they're going to be, you know, all these men coming in are unvetted.
00:12:49.940 We're not going to stand there and let that happen.
00:12:51.660 We're not having that.
00:12:52.400 We'll die for our children.
00:12:53.500 They disrespect the way we live, you know what I mean?
00:12:55.780 They have their own way of living.
00:12:57.300 They disrespect their way of living.
00:12:59.040 Is there any politician, even a local councillor maybe, who's championing your point?
00:13:05.520 Not one local councillor from around here wants to know.
00:13:08.360 They've ignored us and ridiculed us from day one.
00:13:10.540 They don't want to know.
00:13:11.900 But why?
00:13:12.760 I mean, here's the thing.
00:13:13.640 I read nine newspaper front pages today, nine.
00:13:17.400 And all nine of them were hostile.
00:13:19.860 I heard on the radio condemnation.
00:13:22.400 And yet just standing here, car after car is honking in support.
00:13:26.140 The media do this.
00:13:28.020 They send out the wrong message.
00:13:29.380 They're trying to play with people's minds.
00:13:31.120 But is there no one in the community who is willing to take your point of view?
00:13:35.760 Kevin Pepper came down and he gave us a great bit of fucking support.
00:13:38.420 And who's that?
00:13:39.620 He's not from Kulak.
00:13:41.060 He's from Finglas.
00:13:41.800 But we have no Kulak representative that wants to come out here and support our own people. 0.92
00:13:45.880 Us very people who got them in their seats.
00:13:48.100 Now, was there just recently the elections for that position?
00:13:51.500 Yeah.
00:13:52.020 Did any people who had this as an issue run?
00:13:54.980 Yes, they did.
00:13:55.880 And how did they do?
00:13:56.740 They've done very, very well.
00:13:57.780 But they were short 76 votes to get a seat.
00:14:01.480 And was it a particular political party that won?
00:14:05.800 No.
00:14:06.380 They're independent?
00:14:07.480 They were up in the high, yeah.
00:14:09.360 But no political party around here.
00:14:10.980 They didn't do as well as they usually did.
00:14:12.540 Has the local politician even met with you?
00:14:15.480 No.
00:14:16.100 They've ignored us.
00:14:18.260 No, he didn't get in.
00:14:19.220 He's not a politician.
00:14:20.920 No, no local politician has met with us.
00:14:23.060 John Lyons, one of the ladies arranged a meeting with John Lyons and he let her down. 1.00
00:14:27.020 He stood her up and never turned up.
00:14:28.500 How do they get here?
00:14:29.660 I know that there were some Ukrainians who were flown in.
00:14:32.840 But I...
00:14:33.240 Our government is bringing them in. 0.97
00:14:35.420 I...
00:14:35.920 When I was here in May, I went along the canal and there were a lot of men sleeping in camps.
00:14:41.480 They were from Pakistan.
00:14:42.960 One said he was from Palestine.
00:14:44.320 Like, how do they physically get here?
00:14:46.360 Because there's no direct flights.
00:14:48.100 They're coming from France into England. 0.95
00:14:50.280 And then they go over to Northern Ireland and come down?
00:14:53.000 The people that's over there, they've been training.
00:14:54.780 They're going to be pulling about and put back to Rwanda. 0.99
00:14:57.360 Is it Rwanda?
00:14:58.480 So they're coming to Northern Ireland.
00:15:00.240 So they go to Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK, and then they come...
00:15:02.720 Yeah.
00:15:03.700 You see them getting taxis into a currency.
00:15:07.460 Families getting out.
00:15:08.620 Youngers getting out with bags.
00:15:10.180 And just going up to their social welfare.
00:15:13.100 Putting their status.
00:15:14.320 And they're not being...
00:15:15.660 Look for papers.
00:15:16.440 They're getting on planes.
00:15:17.760 And getting out planes with no passports.
00:15:20.280 Which they're destroying the passports on the planes.
00:15:22.800 You need a passport to get on the plane.
00:15:24.720 But when they get to the other end in Dublin...
00:15:26.780 They flushed it.
00:15:27.640 They're flushed.
00:15:28.440 So they don't know where they're from or who they are or record what...
00:15:32.660 You know, like, if they're running from Crimea or not.
00:15:35.180 So most of them are coming from the UK, is that right?
00:15:37.640 Well, there's a lot coming from the UK.
00:15:39.320 Do any come by boat?
00:15:41.620 To here?
00:15:42.600 Not that I know of.
00:15:43.500 They come across from France to the UK and make their way through England.
00:15:48.920 I've been to both France and the UK.
00:15:51.820 Neither are war-torn countries.
00:15:53.820 Both are pretty nice places.
00:15:55.340 So what kind of a damn fool idea is it for Ireland to say you're possibly a refugee if you're coming from the UK or France, which are lovely places?
00:16:05.980 Why is your country treating them as...
00:16:08.120 It's threatened in England.
00:16:09.600 They'd be sent back on planes back over to Wanda or whatever.
00:16:13.520 But they've sent them back.
00:16:15.000 So they're afraid of that.
00:16:16.020 Why is Ireland taking them?
00:16:17.300 If it's so obviously...
00:16:18.440 It's safe.
00:16:19.100 It's safe.
00:16:19.640 You know, I've been talking to these local Irish here in the Kulak neighborhood of Dublin about a lot of things.
00:16:27.000 And I listen carefully to what they say.
00:16:30.220 A lot of what they say they don't want on camera.
00:16:32.920 There's a couple of reasons for that.
00:16:34.180 The main one, these people have jobs.
00:16:36.940 And cancel culture is shockingly powerful here.
00:16:40.460 Some people here work for the government.
00:16:42.180 Some people here work in a company that would be susceptible to public pressure.
00:16:47.420 You can hear people when they're in the privacy of their vehicles honking their support, including government vehicles.
00:16:56.000 There was a fire truck that went by and they had a siren, but they also honked.
00:17:00.500 So when people have the privacy and the knowledge that they won't be ashamed or embarrassed or canceled, they show their overwhelming support.
00:17:08.740 But when I ask them to come on camera to talk about some of these things, I'd say most people have said no.
00:17:14.660 But when the camera's down, they talk to me at length.
00:17:17.420 But one of the things I want to talk about, if I may, and I'm not very good at talking about this.
00:17:22.840 That's why I wanted to interview someone, but they wouldn't.
00:17:26.000 What does it mean to be Irish?
00:17:28.220 What does it mean to have a country called Ireland and to be the indigenous people?
00:17:34.780 Ireland was never an empire.
00:17:36.640 It was never a colonizer.
00:17:38.480 It didn't enslave anyone.
00:17:40.440 In fact, the Irish themselves were slaves in a number of ways, including, believe it or not,
00:17:45.060 African slave raiders came all the way up to Ireland and seized thousands of people, including the entire town of Baltimore,
00:17:53.820 was kidnapped and sold into slavery.
00:17:57.440 Just a shocking tale.
00:18:00.040 The Irish have been dominated by various powers.
00:18:04.300 As you know, they resisted Great Britain and they had a rebellion against the UK.
00:18:09.100 It used to be called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, but now only Northern Ireland is British.
00:18:15.560 The Irish Republic is independent.
00:18:17.440 Can the Irish people have a homeland of their own?
00:18:23.220 I mean, don't we all just want to sometimes go home?
00:18:26.900 A place that we are from and that we recognize and that has fond memories for us, but not just memories, hopes for the future.
00:18:36.000 Isn't that what home is?
00:18:38.140 And if Ireland isn't for the Irish, where does an Irish person feel at home?
00:18:46.560 And if Irish no longer feel at home in their own country, if in their own towns and villages, where do they go?
00:18:56.680 Where does an Irish refugee go? 1.00
00:18:59.080 Well, I'm right across the street from all these children's venues, and they want to put 500 men here.
00:19:08.160 But this isn't even the craziest story.
00:19:11.320 There's a town in County Tipperary, 165 people in that village, and it's been that way forever.
00:19:19.780 And the government has announced they're putting in 280 migrants in a village of 165 people.
00:19:27.080 They're not evicting the 165 Irish.
00:19:31.720 They're just dominating them, overwhelming them, flooding them, diluting them.
00:19:38.060 I don't want to use the word ethnically cleansing them, but I have no doubt that many of those people in that town will leave.
00:19:45.800 They're destroying their home, and not just their home, the home of their parents and grandparents and great-grandparents,
00:19:52.560 and who knows how many centuries back.
00:19:54.960 Why would you do that?
00:19:57.080 And everyone gets their home.
00:20:00.000 The Afghans have Afghanistan. 1.00
00:20:02.000 The Persians have Iran. 1.00
00:20:04.240 There are literally dozens of Arab countries.
00:20:08.200 There's Italy for the Italians, France for the French. 0.98
00:20:11.640 But why can't Ireland have a place that's Irish?
00:20:14.820 I think in many parts of the West, there's a woke guilt.
00:20:21.980 In America, some of that guilt is real over slavery, although America shed more blood to end slavery than any other country in modern times.
00:20:32.520 I think that the United Kingdom had an empire, and so did France, and so did France, and so did the Netherlands, and Spain, and Portugal.
00:20:43.600 Ireland didn't do any of that, and I don't understand the motives of the government and supranational organizations like the UN and the World Economic Forum.
00:21:01.480 I don't understand why they want to deracinate, pull out by the roots, the one place that the Irish have. 1.00
00:21:09.860 I mean, I'm a Jew myself, and I think about where is home, and for me, the answer is Canada.
00:21:17.980 It's been my family's home for more than a century.
00:21:21.560 There is a Jewish longing to be in the land of Zion.
00:21:25.500 That's where the word Zionism comes from, Mount Zion, the country of Israel.
00:21:29.240 Jews want a homeland.
00:21:31.000 They've been in exile for so long.
00:21:34.080 The Irish just have this spot. 1.00
00:21:37.300 They never did anything to anybody.
00:21:39.600 I just don't understand why they're doing this to themselves.
00:21:45.780 And you can blame the United Nations, and you can blame the World Economic Forum, and you can blame outside forces,
00:21:51.320 but at the end of the day, it is the Irish government that has allowed and decided to do this.
00:21:59.220 So, like I said, when I was here in May, these huge concrete blocks were not here.
00:22:04.380 There was rather a makeshift sort of shantytown by protesters.
00:22:08.600 You can see some of their graffiti.
00:22:11.060 Kulak says no, and the torch, big digger.
00:22:14.840 After the riot last night, riot protests, it was both, these enormous blocks were placed here.
00:22:24.200 I don't know how heavy they are.
00:22:26.100 It wouldn't surprise me if they were a ton or more each.
00:22:29.840 And you'd have to be pretty slender to slip through here.
00:22:33.360 I don't know if any person could.
00:22:35.600 You'd have to be pretty ambitious to climb over it.
00:22:38.560 I think it could be done, but it's probably under surveillance by the police.
00:22:44.100 We saw some of the police, or guard eyes, as they're called, come over and tell some folks to move cars.
00:22:50.400 It was actually quite a friendly interaction.
00:22:52.960 I think everyone wants to tamp down the energy level since last night.
00:22:58.120 But the irony of putting up a massive Mexico-style wall, a border wall-style barrier, here,
00:23:10.220 but not at the border.
00:23:13.520 As this one gentleman was saying, a lot of these so-called asylum seekers, 1.00
00:23:16.880 they're coming in from the United Kingdom.
00:23:19.040 Remember, if you know your geography, Ireland, it's an island.
00:23:24.600 The northern part is called Northern Ireland.
00:23:26.220 That's actually part of the U.K.
00:23:27.640 The full name of the U.K. is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
00:23:32.780 So Northern Ireland has an international border with the Republic of Ireland.
00:23:38.720 And that's where these migrants cross. 0.98
00:23:41.560 Some of them come by plane, it's true.
00:23:43.440 But a lot of them come, make their way to France, go across the channel into the U.K.,
00:23:48.640 and then make their way from Great Britain over to Northern Ireland,
00:23:54.200 then come down through the land border into Ireland.
00:23:59.400 Of course, Northern Ireland and the U.K. is not a scary place.
00:24:03.860 There's no such thing as being a refugee from the U.K.
00:24:07.100 There's no such thing as being a refugee from France.
00:24:10.580 But because Ireland will not put a border wall like this up between Northern Ireland and Ireland,
00:24:20.820 they're putting it up here, you will have walls in your life.
00:24:26.100 You will have doors and locks in your life.
00:24:30.280 The only question is, will you have them around your country, protecting your whole country?
00:24:37.260 Will you have them in your gated community?
00:24:39.060 Or will you have them in your own house?
00:24:42.460 The world needs walls.
00:24:44.920 They say good fences make good neighbors.
00:24:47.800 What has happened, this form of urban vandalism,
00:24:53.700 to put up these to block your own citizens,
00:24:57.360 that's what happens when you don't block foreign citizens.
00:25:01.160 We went to meet a journalist who was arrested last night.
00:25:12.240 We left this zone because part of his police conditions for release
00:25:16.760 are that he cannot be anywhere near here.
00:25:19.540 While we were meeting with him, we heard that this gathering here had increased,
00:25:23.620 so we've come straight back.
00:25:25.180 It looks like, just a quick estimate, that there's approximately 100 Irish who have gathered here.
00:25:33.060 Remember, yesterday there were hundreds of protesters and a number of young folks,
00:25:40.080 teenagers we hear, who did throw some rocks and dominated the front pages.
00:25:45.740 What's interesting is both the journalists we just spoke to and the protesters we interviewed earlier
00:25:52.060 thought it was very unfortunate that rocks were thrown.
00:25:55.760 And I think the main reason is because that absolutely changed the narrative
00:25:59.700 from one of local community members pleading for the attention
00:26:04.880 and understanding of the establishment and authorities
00:26:08.340 to the shocking images that were on the front pages of all the newspapers today,
00:26:13.180 masks, youth throwing rocks.
00:26:16.100 I have no doubt that they were genuine emotions in those youngsters throwing rocks.
00:26:21.200 There is a chance they could have been agents, provocateurs,
00:26:24.100 designed to make the Kulak residents look rough or violent or play into the stereotype.
00:26:30.940 The crowd is growing.
00:26:32.180 I'm not sure if there are any plans.
00:26:36.080 As we showed you earlier, they have built the tall border-style concrete fences there,
00:26:43.160 so I don't know if there's going to be any access by the protesters
00:26:47.240 to the migrant plantation, as they call it.
00:26:51.560 You can see up there a police helicopter surveilling the area.
00:26:56.160 Down the road, we saw four police vans, probably with exoskeleton-wearing SWAT-style riot police on standby.
00:27:08.380 Of course, nothing is actually going on other than people sitting and standing and talking.
00:27:15.680 I don't see anyone with a mask.
00:27:17.560 There are mums and dads and kids and grandmas and grandpas.
00:27:24.340 So I think that that's a reason why police actually aren't anywhere to be seen in the site.
00:27:30.600 But the helicopter is a signal to people here that they're watching.
00:27:35.800 I see some youths here.
00:27:39.340 I mean, we heard earlier that there might be some tough kids around here
00:27:45.560 who maybe don't like the cops at the best of times,
00:27:49.080 see the community as being pushed around by politicians and wanted to throw a rock or two.
00:27:54.580 I don't know.
00:27:55.500 I don't know if we'll ever know who was behind those balaclavas.
00:27:58.620 But for now, there are no police here, but obviously police are watching.
00:28:02.620 You can see there's lads behind me with their faces covered.
00:28:08.700 Those were the images that were on the front pages of the newspaper.
00:28:16.440 Balaclava-wearing youth, throwing rocks and even incendiary devices.
00:28:23.860 They know that I'm with Rebel News, and so I'm not the detested mainstream media.
00:28:29.680 Otherwise, I think they would be giving me the buns rush right now.
00:28:32.300 That said, the lads here, I mean, I don't remember what it was like to be a teenage boy.
00:28:37.660 I think they might be looking for trouble.
00:28:39.740 Why are you hiding your face?
00:28:41.260 Can I ask?
00:28:42.420 Because police are investigating people protesting.
00:28:45.900 Are you worried about being canceled if someone knows who you are?
00:28:48.680 Stop, I don't know me.
00:28:50.060 I don't know.
00:28:52.040 I'm curious.
00:28:53.640 You guys look sort of tough.
00:28:55.240 Can I ask you what brings you out here today?
00:29:03.700 You don't want to talk?
00:29:05.020 I'm not trying to put you in the spot.
00:29:06.360 I'm just trying to listen to what you have to say.
00:29:07.900 Do you think the police will give you a hard time?
00:29:14.640 Do you think the guard eye will give you a hard time?
00:29:18.000 All right, I'll let you be.
00:29:20.420 It's not just the young masked lads putting on the pepper spray visors.
00:29:26.520 I see they're handing them out en masse.
00:29:29.560 I don't know if it's serious.
00:29:32.560 I don't know if they really are ready to stand against police pepper spray.
00:29:38.200 Maybe it's a symbol of unity.
00:29:41.180 Maybe it's a symbol of defiance.
00:29:42.840 But the thought of middle-aged, middle-class people putting on pepper spray masks,
00:29:49.320 I don't think they're going to do much good, by the way.
00:29:51.520 My experience with pepper spray or tear gas is very limited,
00:29:57.120 but you need a seal around the eyes and the nose.
00:30:01.600 I think it's more a symbolic statement towards the police
00:30:05.320 and a criticism, almost a performance art criticism, of policing yesterday.
00:30:11.960 My name is Caroline Burke.
00:30:14.060 I live 10 minutes down the road.
00:30:17.520 I just come here to support the people up in Kulak
00:30:20.020 because we have the same issue.
00:30:21.860 Ahead of us, open fingers,
00:30:23.780 because they have a public plantation of 160 acres ready to go for tents.
00:30:34.840 So once this is dismantled now,
00:30:36.980 which hopefully the public have done successfully,
00:30:40.200 the next move will be they'll bring them up to Thornton Hall,
00:30:42.440 which is five minutes from my house.
00:30:44.180 Okay, so let me understand what you're saying.
00:30:46.060 There's this big factory here.
00:30:47.700 It's sort of empty,
00:30:48.480 and they want to turn that into a migrant center. 0.93
00:30:50.760 You're worried that whether or not this goes ahead,
00:30:53.740 there's another 160-acre park or natural habitat.
00:30:58.900 You're worried that that will be turned into a kind of refugee camp?
00:31:02.540 Yeah, that's the intention.
00:31:04.000 We have people...
00:31:04.700 How do you know that's the intention?
00:31:05.800 Have they said so?
00:31:06.480 Yes, it's been disclosed.
00:31:10.460 And there's people up there camping, sleeping there in tents to prevent this on the gates.
00:31:15.740 Oh, so you're saying Irish people are sort of squatting on the land to keep out those who would build the refugee camp?
00:31:22.080 They have the gates locked, and they're manning the gates, trying to prevent a plantation to go in there.
00:31:29.080 You sound like very dramatic, even desperate acts.
00:31:33.140 Well, we are desperate.
00:31:34.600 I mean, nobody's safe.
00:31:36.080 The children can't walk to school.
00:31:38.220 Parents can't.
00:31:39.120 Women are afraid. 1.00
00:31:40.000 Even men are afraid.
00:31:42.120 It's like we have a steady flow of immigration for years here, but this is chaotic.
00:31:48.840 This is like we don't know who these people are.
00:31:51.040 There's no criminal background.
00:31:52.840 As far as I know, in Europe, they've opened mental institutions, released the people because they don't want to pay for them anymore, and criminals.
00:32:00.060 So with them coming here with no documents, we don't know what kind of criminal background they have.
00:32:06.140 And believe me, they have criminal backgrounds because they're coming here straight away and doing criminal activities.
00:32:12.380 Nice to see you again.
00:32:13.320 I met you in May.
00:32:14.460 I saw you in May when you had sort of a...
00:32:18.820 Oh, we had a brilliant camp built.
00:32:20.180 Yeah, we had a brilliant camp built.
00:32:21.400 There was me there, and I didn't do them myself.
00:32:22.800 Obviously, the lads all got together.
00:32:24.560 They got the pallets.
00:32:25.320 They built it up.
00:32:26.300 Oh, they had a beautiful look, and they had the rooms and everything built in it.
00:32:29.080 Yeah.
00:32:29.260 People donated couches and beds and stuff, so they had it like that.
00:32:32.160 It was nice.
00:32:33.000 And I was...
00:32:33.480 I'm not even from up here.
00:32:34.980 I am originally from Dublin, but it's outside of Dublin.
00:32:36.820 This is north side, and I'm living in Carlow a good few years now.
00:32:40.020 But I came up here to give me a bit of support, you know what I mean?
00:32:43.760 And I was more than welcome.
00:32:44.920 You know, you hear all these bad things about, oh, cool like this, cool like that, they're bad.
00:32:48.460 They're not.
00:32:49.020 They didn't turn around and say, you're not from around here.
00:32:50.700 You pissed off.
00:32:51.300 They didn't say nothing like that to me.
00:32:52.620 They actually turned around and said, oh, you're very welcome.
00:32:54.560 And they came up there and they gave me food for the dogs, they gave me everything.
00:32:56.800 Like, I had stuff for myself anyway for the dogs.
00:32:58.580 I said, no, we'll give you more.
00:32:59.820 And they were very nice and welcoming people.
00:33:01.460 That's what they were.
00:33:02.100 So how did it end when the police came in to dismantle your setup?
00:33:05.700 How did that go?
00:33:06.880 Well, I wasn't actually here, no, when it happened.
00:33:09.180 But I actually seen the video.
00:33:11.320 I'm on one of the pages there to do with Koolock. 0.73
00:33:13.200 And when the lads had to put up on the page that the guards were all over the place here
00:33:18.080 and that they surrounded everything and they were tall, they only had a couple of minutes
00:33:21.360 to move.
00:33:22.420 And when they got out of there, they didn't have much.
00:33:24.140 They couldn't.
00:33:24.360 What could they do?
00:33:25.280 And then they come in and bulldozed a whole lot out of it.
00:33:27.580 Bulldozed?
00:33:28.300 Everything.
00:33:28.840 Yeah, bulldozed a whole lot.
00:33:30.340 Smashed everything.
00:33:31.100 So you can see it all behind the back of there.
00:33:32.880 It was all smashed up.
00:33:34.780 People's belongings, everything.
00:33:36.100 Destroyed.
00:33:36.560 You know what I mean?
00:33:36.900 Gave them a few minutes to do.
00:33:38.180 And that was it.
00:33:39.120 Didn't ask them peacefully, whatever.
00:33:40.640 They just come in.
00:33:41.300 That was it.
00:33:41.840 Wrecked everything, which was an awful shame.
00:33:44.320 Do you know what I mean?
00:33:44.820 It is terrible.
00:33:46.020 These people are here, as they said themselves, they're here to protect our communities.
00:33:49.800 That's what they're about, to protect our communities.
00:33:51.860 There's a lot of reasons this is happening, but I think that it could not happen without
00:33:57.040 the consent and approval and energy and dedication of the Irish government.
00:34:03.200 There are foreign forces that would want this.
00:34:05.980 The migrants themselves want this.
00:34:07.900 But none of this can happen without your prime minister, your Taoiseach.
00:34:13.780 So why, at the end of the day, is Ireland choosing to go down this path?
00:34:19.660 Well, Ireland is not choosing.
00:34:21.460 The governments are pushing this.
00:34:23.640 Why?
00:34:24.540 Well, they obviously have an agenda.
00:34:26.640 Well, for the European Union, the WHO, they obviously walk for other people.
00:34:31.520 They're certainly not walking for us.
00:34:32.980 Because you see what happened to you yesterday.
00:34:34.880 The people were attacked.
00:34:36.740 They're trying to twist it.
00:34:38.000 Are you scared that you will be pepper sprayed today?
00:34:41.540 Well, I'm sure they're going to come out in force, like they did yesterday.
00:34:45.940 Of course they will.
00:34:46.660 Now, why would the police come out?
00:34:48.040 Because right now, it's a peaceful, I'm not going to say like a festival feeling, but
00:34:52.540 it's upbeat, it's positive, there's flags.
00:34:55.080 There's some young lads sort of stomping their feet like a horse ready to race.
00:35:00.680 But it's completely peaceful here.
00:35:03.560 No one can get through those cement barrack raids.
00:35:06.480 So why would the police act?
00:35:08.980 No one's blocking the roads.
00:35:10.800 Why wouldn't the police just let this burn itself out?
00:35:13.920 Well, they'll come up with some idea, like soliciting or whatever.
00:35:19.420 They'll come up with something.
00:35:21.060 What happened yesterday to cause the police to move in?
00:35:25.580 I mean, I know there were some youths who were throwing rocks and whatnot, but that only
00:35:29.760 happened because the police were there.
00:35:31.500 The police are nowhere to be seen here.
00:35:33.360 I can't see.
00:35:33.900 They're way down there.
00:35:35.260 They're way down there.
00:35:36.220 So if the police stay back, doesn't this burn itself out like a fire?
00:35:40.080 Well, I don't think they see it like that.
00:35:44.040 You know, we don't know what they're capable of now at this stage, because as far as we're
00:35:47.540 concerned, they don't work for us.
00:35:49.080 They're protecting the migrants.
00:35:50.260 They're not protecting the Irish.
00:35:51.660 Well, we've been here a few hours now, and there's lots of folks.
00:35:55.760 Hi, do you have anything to say?
00:35:57.260 I love cocaine.
00:35:59.940 There you go.
00:36:02.560 I honestly couldn't understand what he said.
00:36:06.460 He loves something.
00:36:07.340 I didn't catch what it was.
00:36:08.400 There's a lot of young people out here, a lot of young guys, and where there's young
00:36:13.180 guys, there's young gals, and the whole community's out here. 1.00
00:36:16.920 There's moms and dads, and a lot of teenagers, I'd say between 14 and 20, have face masks,
00:36:24.700 and last night, they did what young men sometimes do.
00:36:31.500 They got into a scuffle, more than a scuffle.
00:36:34.580 Well, they threw rocks, and in some cases, crude Molotov cocktails at police.
00:36:40.240 The police charged them.
00:36:41.800 There was violence, 15 arrests.
00:36:44.360 And of course, there was an arson in the area of the proposed migrant center itself.
00:36:52.700 Obviously, arson is a crime, and so is throwing bricks and incendiary devices, and I suppose
00:37:02.760 from that point of view, the police had no choice whatsoever but to deploy, to stop the
00:37:08.200 arson in the migrant center.
00:37:09.820 And I don't think police can abide people throwing rocks.
00:37:15.760 Today, the migrant center is walled off by high concrete fences.
00:37:21.180 There's no arson, and police have been fined giving the protesters a wide berth.
00:37:27.100 There is nothing to provoke the police to engage, so for hours, the crowd has stood on either
00:37:35.440 side of this road.
00:37:37.460 What's interesting is there is no sign whatsoever of any wiggle room, any compromise on the part
00:37:45.760 of the government.
00:37:46.400 Let me show you two videos that I saw on the internet while I was here today.
00:37:50.040 The first is the state broadcaster, which here is called RTE, tried to find a single person
00:37:57.960 in the neighborhood of Kulak that supported the migrant center.
00:38:02.480 Here's how that looked.
00:38:03.560 On the streets around Kulak today, the events of last night, still fresh in the minds.
00:38:09.180 And as with most things, opinion divided on the issues that have fixed attention onto the
00:38:14.720 place.
00:38:15.080 From the light, his honor, they should be bringing their migrants into the country. 1.00
00:38:18.040 I ask for you now, that's my honor's opinion.
00:38:21.040 Why is that?
00:38:22.160 Why is that?
00:38:23.140 Because why don't you help the Irish people?
00:38:25.380 The Irish people should be held first. 1.00
00:38:27.040 It says an awful lot about something like that can bring hordes of people in, into one
00:38:31.100 area, and the area itself gets the reputation, and it's not even the locals that are causing
00:38:35.800 the problem.
00:38:36.500 I didn't like the other stories, but at the end of the day, people are writing what they're
00:38:39.600 doing.
00:38:40.020 Like, they're standing up for themselves in the community.
00:38:41.820 It's about their kids as well.
00:38:43.000 So, I get where they're coming from.
00:38:44.880 You won't be gone now.
00:38:46.140 You're people in the area, you won't know.
00:38:47.360 You won't allow that.
00:38:49.040 Can't.
00:38:49.660 There might be more protests, but if they're going in there, there's going to be a lot
00:38:52.980 more protests.
00:38:54.080 Yeah, they couldn't find one.
00:38:55.580 But here is the government saying they will not bend.
00:38:59.300 They will continue.
00:39:00.920 Take a look.
00:39:01.480 Absolutely not.
00:39:02.120 Plans will continue as set out.
00:39:04.520 It is so important that we can provide accommodation to men, women, and children who are fleeing extremely
00:39:10.400 difficult circumstances.
00:39:11.380 We have an obligation to provide international protection.
00:39:14.080 It will be done in consultation with the communities.
00:39:17.660 And I have to stress this point.
00:39:20.080 This does not reflect the communities in Kuluk, so many of whom have been extremely welcoming
00:39:24.420 to so many who need our support and our help.
00:39:27.140 But this is unacceptable behavior.
00:39:29.300 Communications cannot be used as an excuse for these type of violent scenes.
00:39:33.040 Why would any political leader, why would the police, why would politicians, why would
00:39:38.560 journalists look at the hundreds of local residents opposed to this and say, we are going
00:39:44.140 to go ahead, damn the torpedoes?
00:39:46.020 Because it's because if they blink in even one of these towns or cities, then that gives
00:39:51.720 courage to anti-migration activists anywhere, that they can stop it.
00:39:57.200 By the way, the reason I'm wearing this press vest is that there was a point there earlier
00:40:00.980 we thought maybe things would get a little spicy, and I wanted to indicate in some way
00:40:05.380 to police that even though I was standing amongst the protesters, I was a journalist,
00:40:09.840 not a protester myself.
00:40:11.120 Well, Ireland seems absolutely dead set in hurtling forward in its mass immigration policy.
00:40:20.400 I'm actually astonished by it.
00:40:22.720 Tomorrow, we're going to do something a little bit different.
00:40:24.920 If our plans maintain, we're going to go to a very small village about two hours from here
00:40:30.000 in the county of Tipperary, a village of 175 people, where they're going to bring 280 migrants.
00:40:39.220 Do the math there.
00:40:40.140 They're going to more than double the size of the village with foreigners, almost all 1.00
00:40:45.200 of the men, who they're going to absolutely transform and destroy the village in the name
00:40:52.240 of what?
00:40:53.640 It's going to be a crazy day.
00:40:56.480 It won't be a day with a lot of people like this.
00:40:59.780 I mean, there's more people here than live in the entire village we propose to go to.
00:41:03.480 This is a crazy place, and I don't understand the basic question, why?
00:41:09.860 Maybe we'll get some answers.
00:41:11.820 Until tomorrow, on behalf of Rebel News, I'm here in Dublin, Ireland with our videographer,
00:41:17.760 Lincoln Jay.
00:41:18.480 And of course, in the U.S., we have Efron Monsanto and Yankee Pollock on the ground at the
00:41:24.460 Milwaukee Republican Convention.
00:41:25.820 To you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:41:30.880 I don't know if you heard me.
00:41:32.300 I'll say it again.
00:41:34.180 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:41:35.300 You're welcome.
00:41:47.620 You're welcome.